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May 2018

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Retweeted @Meaningness

In the groove, intense creative energy feels effortless. This is “deep laziness.” @sarahdoingthing provides a recipe for…

The blind men and the elephant in the room where it happens.

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Unconditional flow depends on not judging anything as inherently wrong. Magical description of Miles Davis having no prob…

It's late, and I'm like "okay what next before bed?" I've been trying to avoid checking email etc and instead open the #ObliqueStrategies app, and... ...guess it's straight to bed with no alarm set!

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Replying to Venkatesh Rao ☀️ @vgr ·

Are there any end-of-the-world stories with the premise of humanity simply losing interest in itself and self-perpetuation rather than an apocalyptic scenario? The psychomechanics of the soft-landing would be interesting, especially when it’s down to the last few thousand.

@vgr Hmm... basically impossible, for the simple reason that it would only take one gene or meme that preferred self-preservation for that to dominate. So author would either have to really not understand (/ deny) basic evolutionary processes, or come up with a damn good explanation.

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Replying to Joe Edelman @edelwax ·

⏱ What is the opposite of a clock?

@edelwax Hmm, depends on dimension. If one considers the kairos<->chronos axis, the opposite of a clock would be a thing that measures the passing of subjective time.

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@edelwax If one considers the dimension of continuous<->discrete, the opposite of a clock would be something that turns discrete chunks of time into continuous flow (instead of the reverse). I think there's a part of the brain that does this!

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Replying to Tiago Forte @fortelabs ·

Theory: there is no such thing as "group knowledge"

@fortelabs I've thought about this. "We know X" could mean: 1. for each individual P in the group, P knows X 2. #1 plus each P knows #1 is true 3. Common knowledge: repeat #2 ad infinitum 4. At least one of us, Q, knows X 5. #4 plus we all know who Q is ... ...

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@fortelabs 6. We have the parts distributed between us, that comprise X 7. #6 plus some subset of us knows how to assemble those parts 8. #7 plus the others among us don't have a conflict or disagreement that would prevent us from unanimously expressing X

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@fortelabs Note that there's also a conflict possibility in #4 - some individuals may know X. Others may insist on Y, or otherwise doubt X or the judgment of those individuals.

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@fortelabs That list of 8 I generated from my implicit model right now. I bet if I had co-thought about this with someone else, we would have had even more between us. That could be a form of group knowledge.

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@fortelabs Consider also that knowledge includes not just declarative knowledge but procedural knowledge. Does any individual on a team know how to play the whole game? The Beatles knew how to perform their songs, as a group; no individual contained the entirety of that knowledge.

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@fortelabs I've thought about this. "We know X" could mean: 1. for each individual P in the group, P knows X 2. #1 plus…

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@fortelabs 6. We have the parts distributed between us, that comprise X 7. #6 plus some subset of us knows how to assemb…

What if we had an AI that could take this instruction as input and output the results...

Durchlass Kilometer 5,698 @emareaf ·

You have a bunch of labeled images you train a neural network on half and benchmark it on the other half. Then you repeat this a thousand times each time with a different split on which image goes into which half.

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Replying to Tiago Forte @fortelabs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Is this how ppl feel reading my blog posts

@fortelabs Baha I dunno. How do you feel? 😜

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Retweeted @cmschroed

My favorite parlor game — from Silicon Valley to NYC to DC — is to ask people what is “One Belt, One Road.” Fewer than 5% c…

Replying to Tiago Forte @fortelabs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Like you’ve thought more about it than I’d ever care to 🤔

@fortelabs Ha. I suppose that's part of the nature of reading & writing: the fact that one person is the reader and the other is the writer almost always means that the writer has more invested in the subject. The stuff I outlined above feels pretty central to understanding #complexity.

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What happened to the Cutting Machinery app from @leashless & @FutureThinkers_ ? All I've found is a dead subreddit.

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Replying to @leashless

@leashless > "nobody had ever thought about it twice." I have had this lament about the design of most things, for many years. To the point where I find myself saying "almost nothing is actually designed."

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Replying to Future Thinkers🌲Smart Village @FutureThinkers_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean the CM app is no longer available, sorry for the inconvenience.

@FutureThinkers_ Mhm, that much is apparent, yeah. But what's the story? Was there little interest? Was it causing people to go mad? Was it too buggy and there wasn't time to improve it? Why not open-source it?

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What doesn't kill me makes me stranger.

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Retweeted @MarcWragg

The snare drum on Man In The Mirror by Michael Jackson has more pop than a 750g family value box of coco pops.

OH: "What is this, and do you want it for dinner?"

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"...is dead, long live..." is dead, long live "...is dead, long live..."!

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Retweeted @Meaningness

An organism cannot be defined as an aggregate of genetically identical cells, because there aren’t any of those. You are…

Retweeted @simpolism

A useful skill taught by writing tweetstorms is how to crisply fold the broader context of the thread into every individual…

Retweeted @KennethFolk

From POV of Universe, you don't matter. From your personal POV, you are everything. How to reconcile the two points of vie…

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2x2 disambiguating two senses of “rational.” Both top quadrants could be called “rational” in different senses. https://t.…

This thread. Complex systems are complex!

Aella @Aella_Girl ·

Sometimes a society has symptoms, like a body. It coughs the cough of low wages or gets the headache of unaffordable schooling. We are empathetic, we want to help - so we say, give the cough drop of minimum wage! Take the asprin of government-funded schooling!

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"Let's make a Jacquard loom for the social fabric." - @SarahAMcManus

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

2x2 disambiguating two senses of “rational.” Both top quadrants could be called “rational” in different senses.

@Meaningness Rationalists seem to often use a third-ish definition, which is sort of just "effective thinking". This meaning shows up here, although of course the word "systematized" creates a confusion with your top-right quadrant. lesswrong.com/posts/4ARtkT3E…

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You're looking for metamodernism: metamodernism.com/2015/01/12/met… > "The metamodern generation understands that we can be both ironic and sincere in the same moment; that one does not necessarily diminish the other."

Aurora @rawrafox ·

@frootyram3n Can I do both at once possibly? Like… say that I do it ironically while doing it unironically?

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Replying to Aurora @rawrafox ·

@frootyram3n Can I do both at once possibly? Like… say that I do it ironically while doing it unironically?

@rawrafox @frootyram3n You're looking for metamodernism: metamodernism.com/2015/01/12/met… > "The metamodern generation understands that we can be both ironic and sincere in the same moment; that one does not necessarily diminish the other."

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Retweeted @compluvi

The Complice Features page has a proper explanation of all of the cool stuff you can do with the @bmndr integration now! htt…

Retweeted @webdevMason

When you ask a really useful question, most people will consciously or unconsciously try to determine if they have a cache…

Retweeted @webdevMason

If you wanna get better at this, avoid questions you don't genuinely care about. Ask what you wish people would ask you. L…

Replying to Mason @webdevMason ·

If you wanna get better at this, avoid questions you don't genuinely care about. Ask what you wish people would ask you. Look for weirdness, implied assumptions, or omissions & ask precise follow-ups. Chase the intersection between your curiosity & their enjoyment in the telling

@webdevMason Also a skill of responding to a cached question by digging into that intersection for yourself! I practiced this at @ea_global last year. People would often ask very pointed & boring specific questions. Hard but important to step back, breath, and not just blather a response.

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Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@webdevMason Also a skill of responding to a cached question by digging into that intersection for yourself! I practice…

Replying to Mason @webdevMason ·

The worst common sense advice young people get is "don't run away from your problems." Too easily translates to "don't change course."

@webdevMason Mmmm. Also many problems *can't* be run away from. They're the kind of thing that you'll tend to reproduce or find wherever you go, until you learn a new way of being. But you might be able to ditch your current situation for one that'll be a better opportunity to learn!

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Retweeted @david_perell

Woah! This is cool... Many of the best things in life were originally just methods of PRESERVATION. 📚 Books 🖼️ Painti…

Retweeted @michaelporcelli

One of the best analyses of discourse norms of arguing well when you disagree from @slatestarcodex | Varieties Of Argu…

Replying to Michael Porcelli @michaelporcelli ·

One of the best analyses of discourse norms of arguing well when you disagree from @slatestarcodex | Varieties Of Argumentative Experience | Slate Star Codex bit.ly/2KWfnGA

@michaelporcelli @slatestarcodex Also check out @everytstudies' blog where he coined the term #erisology for the study of disagreement: everythingstudies.com/what-is-erisol…

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Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@michaelporcelli @slatestarcodex Also check out @everytstudies' blog where he coined the term #erisology for the study o…

"my default habits for checking my email are probably not aware of my mortality" (an excerpt from my journal a few years ago)

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Retweeted @almostlikethat

What are examples of patterns or systems (hopefully positive?) that #AroseAfterOrSurvived a major "collapse". Examples:…

Retweeted @jesswatmiller

@backus Oh man, this is a nice face-slap to show me what I really meant by the idea that focusing on your goals ensures…

Retweeted @backus

Deliberately trying to improve yourself traps you in a local maximum

Quine said that "quotation has a certain anomalous feature." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80…)

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Tiny web design thing that makes me sad: web apps that give you a multi-line input field but then display your text without the whitespace:pre-wrap style. It's like ordering a burger and fries and they put the fries in your burger: if I'd wanted that, I would have asked for it.

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Retweeted @mwichary

Fascinated by UIs that accidentally amass memories. One of them is the wi-fi “preferred networks” pane – unexpected reminders…

Replying to @mwichary

@mwichary I've never coded something specifically for multiple years, but if you come back to @CompliceGoals after being away for awhile, you get this prompt:

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Replying to Stephen Pimentel @StephenPiment ·

@Meaningness Yes. I am especially baffled by people noting TMINTT as though this is some deep insight. It amounts to a smug denial of the most naive realism. OK, so not that. Now what?

@StephenPiment @Meaningness I recently spent a few hours w/ the original source (Korzybski's Science & Sanity) and it gave me the impression that while current zeitgeist has partially just digested this insight, there are fundamental pieces missing. Most people are full of confusions that TMINTT negates.

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@StephenPiment @Meaningness However, most people who try to point at these confusions have trouble, because they're ontological confusions and people tend to interpret incoming words as meaning something within their current ontology, rather than pointing at how it could be different.

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@StephenPiment @Meaningness I sense a motte&bailey-esque thing here (except not so antagonistic as the central uses of that term). There's an obvious simple true thing that TMINTT means, & most people stop with that one when looking, then go back to making map-territory muddles when not paying attention.

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment I tried to read that decades ago and failed. Should give it another go, apparently!

@Meaningness @StephenPiment I tried it 4 years ago and couldn't manage it them. Those years of experience and further reading have made a difference I think.

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@garybasin @Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment And here’s some more. After writing this, I felt like it was all obvious and I wasn’t saying anything much. Maybe this isn’t obvious to everyone? If not, is this a good way of talking about it?

@Meaningness @garybasin @StephenPiment Hm, somewhat obvious, but the uhh... mapping from literal maps & territories to the more general case maybe less so. eg "overarching universal ontology, combining all possible categorizations" seems like sthg I might have vaguely thought was possible before reading Meaningness

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@Meaningness @garybasin @StephenPiment Unclear if I would have endorsed it as a thing that was possible once the matter was brought to light, but I at least somewhat would have been acting as though that were a thing.

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment Can you give an example of a map-territory error that may be commonly made? The range of responses to my query suggests that the statement is sufficiently pithy and metaphorical that different people interpret quite differently what M-T confusion consists of…

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@Meaningness @StephenPiment I mean, Korzybski would claim that saying "this is a chair" is a M-T error, because "is" is busted. And people DO get in (usually useless) debates about whether some particular X "is" a Y. They wouldn't do this if they weren't making this M-T error.

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@Meaningness @StephenPiment Rationalists get around this using the tool "operationalize". So the debate needs to become about a real question: "does it look like a chair to me?" "can I sit comfortably on it?" "do >70% of strangers call it a chair?" or simply "do I choose to call this a chair?"

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment Hmm. Maybe I *am* just saying that the map isn’t the territory! (Pretty sure not… partly because the main point of the book is explaining how to come up with new types of maps… but it’s worth considering further the possibliity that I’m reinventing a wheel!)

@Meaningness @StephenPiment Well, so far nobody seems to have written a better introduction to General Semantics than Science & Sanity, so it's about fucking time!

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment Hmm. Maybe I *am* just saying that the map isn’t the territory! (Pretty sure not… partly because the main point of the book is explaining how to come up with new types of maps… but it’s worth considering further the possibliity that I’m reinventing a wheel!)

@Meaningness @StephenPiment (and yeah, this again comes back to the motte&bailey thing. You ARE saying the map isn't the territory, but you aren't JUST saying that the map isn't the territory, in the sense of "only saying the obvious simple true thing")

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment That’s certainly a helpful move. My caveat would be that these questions can’t usefully be answered in the general case. A meaningful answer has to be relative to a particular situation, or limited set of situations.

@Meaningness @StephenPiment Right, also this! The importance of context. Perhaps one could even gesture at "contextualizing" as an even larger move than "operationalizing".

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Common dismissal: “Aren’t you just saying that ‘the map is not the territory’?” Attempting to clarify, I find myself baff…

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@StephenPiment @Meaningness I recently spent a few hours w/ the original source (Korzybski's Science & Sanity) and it ga…

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@StephenPiment @Meaningness However, most people who try to point at these confusions have trouble, because they're onto…

Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@StephenPiment @Meaningness I sense a motte&bailey-esque thing here (except not so antagonistic as the central uses of t…

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@Malcolm_Ocean @StephenPiment Can you give an example of a map-territory error that may be commonly made? The range of re…

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@Meaningness @StephenPiment I mean, Korzybski would claim that saying "this is a chair" is a M-T error, because "is" is…

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@Meaningness @StephenPiment Rationalists get around this using the tool "operationalize". So the debate needs to become…

Replying to Mason @webdevMason ·

Without looking it up, which is closest to the number of identified mammal species on earth?

@webdevMason Inferred the correct answer based on recently having learned the fraction of mammal species that are bat species. If I hadn't known & used that fact, I probably would have answered incorrectly.

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I figured while I scrolling through #GDPR tweets I might as well collect the best ones to make it more efficient for others to enjoy. ⚡️ “GDPR Humor 😂😭” by @Malcolm_Ocean twitter.com/i/moments/9983…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

How mindful are you of your breathing?

@visakanv Depends a lot. More now than I used to be. Much more able to do it when stressed now. Naturally gets abstracted when I'm focused on something else.

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Replying to Grant Sanderson @3blue1brown ·

Name 5 people who lived in the 1800’s. Don’t read other answers, just write the first 5 that pop in your head.

@3blue1brown @sknthla Queen Victoria Frederick Winslow Taylor Nikola Tesla Thomas Edison Alfred Korzybski

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Name 5 people who lived in the 1800’s. Don’t read other answers, just write the first 5 that pop in your head.

Exercise your demons.

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(The typo is in the title; maybe you can just fix it. It says "Productvity" instead of "Productivity")

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YYZ ✈ SFO

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My in-flight reading: this book that looks kinda cheesy but is actually saying cool things about ontologies and meta-ontological thinking. The Power of Impossible Thinking

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There's an important #FluidMode skill of being able to hear someone out when they're upset for some reason that is premised on something incorrect. eg if someone is upset because they think you dissed them, but they misheard. Even if the cause isn't real, their *experience* is.

Venkatesh Rao ☀️ @vgr ·

When you want to let someone finish what they're saying but you disagree with the whole premise of what they're saying, it feels like going into disagreement debt. I often declare bankruptcy and mentally exit before they finish talking. Body follows as soon as politely possible.

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Retweeted @Meaningness

1️⃣ Opinions about @jordanbpeterson appear to be mandatory now. Allowed opinions are: A) YAAAY‼️ or B) BOOO‼️ I don't…

Retweeted @compluvi

Thinking about #GDPR's "freely given consent" helped me improve this moment of the Complice onboarding UI. I suspect that hav…

GDPR emphasizes "freely given consent". But the spirit of that requires not just conscious choice but a good BATNA, which people don't have with the larger tech companies that have so much power. shift.newco.co/how-gdpr-kills…

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Retweeted @caseycapshaw

Who can I follow on Twitter that tends to take a perspective above the typical divisive, left/right, polarity?