@_ali_taylor "open to it" "I'm down" "sure if you want" "if you're into it" "seduce me" "not yet!"
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@QiaochuYuan @visakanv My latest frame for this: everyone is basically living in a dream mashup of their current external situation and their old emotional meanings. Like dreaming you're at school but it's also on a boat somehow. & as in dreams, somehow the weirdness of this mashup goes unnoticed
@visakanv Herbie Hancock describing a similar realization he had early on playing with Miles Davis, and "right in the middle of Miles Davis' solo, I played the wrong chord. Sounded like a big mistake! ...and Miles paused for a second... then he played some notes that made my chord right."
@gmiller I think people can change in lots of ways, so I think it's possible, but it might involve some very surprising and hard-to-predict-or-control intervention, like her meeting some person that mystifies her but inspires her, or her mom dying, or doing ayahuasca
@anonynaut it's not about that, it's about the fact that CS degrees are only tangentially relevant to actually building software it would be like if someone wanted a job as a carpenter and they'd studied wood and its properties but had never built anything
Replying to @mccrabb_will
@mccrabb_will also the genius of Alexander Technique (which Reeve studied)
@paulg I'm gonna say people who talk about "human error" mostly don't understand human factors / design. See eg this thread talking about a naval disaster that was blamed on the operators but was obviously downstream of poor design once investigated.
@eshear "chill out in a chair or on a couch, with no phone or anything to read/do/etc, until you feel like getting up and doing the thing or you get clear that you'd rather do something else"
Replying to @ElytraMithra
@ElytraMithra someone mis-read "ground squirrels" and thought it was like "ground chicken"
@BrandonGoldman my request was "please cancel this investment account that I transferred to a different bank" turns out that had happened automatically by the transfer process already, so "nothing to do here" was actually the correct conclusion!
@hdevalence the most retarded thing about it is that they ARE two separate checkboxes on completely different settings page... that are somehow quantumly entangled so that when you change one it fucks up the other
@Jonathan_Blow scope creep / expansion these rockets all solve exactly one problem if you find later iterations of software that solves only the exact same problem as earlier iterations, it'll tend to be simpler. but usually we add more cases/situations
@cowtung you can sing your own songs! I've made up a lot or (easier) sing other existing songs. I've sung her: - House of the Rising Sun - Superstition by Stevie Wonder - various Jason Mraz favs - xmas carols we don't plan to do "kids songs" really
@QiaochuYuan @a_witch_in_time Yeah, I generally phrase this as "because the DSM measures deviation from norm, it is structurally incapable of recognizing a dysfunctional condition that everyone has." I tried to say this to a group of ppl at YC120 and one of them literally said "but then it would be normal!"
@natural_hazard I have a friend who this happened to transformed my sense of people as having fixed intelligence, watching her uncramp hers from underneath shame & trauma & self-consciousness
@caesararum my audio recorder auto-updated an hour into me recording an amazing 4h conversation (while my phone's screen was off) 🤬 the only way I knew this was how my recording was destroyed was because I guessed it and then checked google play update logs.
@inkolore_ by being weird in 2019
@mechanical_monk I have investigated this extensively and as far as I can tell it's primarily {an invitation to | a recognition of} a deeper kind of intimacy which paradoxically is partially made of the recognition of each others' strangeness
@QiaochuYuan I've gradually realized over the past years that one of the reasons I've been quite loud/domineering in conversations is that to the extent that I (or my autopilot) is running the show, the conversation is less likely to be overwhelming to process in real-time interesting cope
@algekalipso I think I found it once and got quite annoyed, but had forgotten about it again until now I've gradually gotten comfortable with the equilateral triangles tho, so I'm sure I'll eventually stop being a bigot about the hexagon
Replying to @prinxeMu
@prinxeMu I once spent the whole morning in the principal's office due to a pun. First class of the day, we were learning about "Cause And Effect". The teacher would name a cause, & students suggest potential effects. Teacher names an effect, students suggest possible causes.
@the_aiju and it makes sense that they won't! there is wisdom they don't know how to keep if they leave wisdom that includes full empathy for those who are in there and full respect for those choosing not to leave and all this makes this in-some-sense-simple choice not so simple
@ruthgracewong it's not any one thing. it's just the relentless onslaught of hair-trigger needs and 120dB screaming. it's definitely way better now that she kinda does stuff. I think if I'd started here I wouldn't already be burnt out by now.
@visakanv Someone: "can you help me with this thing?" Me: "right now?" Someone: "uhhh I was thinking some nebulous time in the future" Me: "can we just do it right now?" Someone: "no" Me: "okay come find me when we can do it right now"
@xepo_ thanks. I do feel like I need people to talk to but I feel like I have too many of them online and not enough of them in-person where we can actually hang out with baby. so if you live in SF (or visit) hmu.
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin "right" and "left" don't mean what they used to ....this has happened several times. meaningness.com/political-left…
@undo_hubris depends on the skill and on the scale there are lots of things where you can go from zero to one in a year. like "cannot juggle" to "can juggle well". this is at least a 37x improvement in my books.
@VividVoid_ the only good purpose for righteousness is keeping you in touch with your deepest principles instead of social pressure using it to judge others is a farce
@benlandautaylor nice. reminds me of this excerpt from the beginning of A Positive Account of Property Rights by David Friedman daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Prope…
@visakanv @RomeoStevens76! He has a brilliant piece "misTranslating the Buddha" which was just on a mailing list but I made it into a gdoc here for ease of printing & sharing. It's subtle, perceptive dharma. (Romeo lmk if you publish this elsewhere) docs.google.com/document/d/10q…
@alth0u requires also figuring out how to handle the anachronism implied by the whole situation and like are they tweeting into the void or are they responding to what's happening? ░ P ░ I ░ N ░ U ░ P ░ G ░ I ░ R ░ L ░ S ░ I ░ N ░ B ░ I ░ O ░
@devonzuegel @juliagalef found a technique for this. TL;DR = ask for the numerator & denominator separately. measureofdoubt.com/2011/05/06/the…
@ESYudkowsky While writing, put a kaleidoscope on my secondary monitor so that I have something for my spare attention cycles to be drawn to that doesn't send me spiralling into an internet rabbit hole. Ever-changing yet nothing ever happens. youtube.com/watch?v=msnYBM…
@diviacaroline risks from physical play are different from risks engaging with giant optimization functions trying to hack you 🤷♀️ I wouldn't let my kids play unsupervised with a psychopathic genius drug-dealer who lives down the street.
@katrinadlc I have a move, inspired somehow by ideal parent figure protocol, that I call: "Bathe in Love". While laying in bed, I imagine sinking into a bath or pool of pure love, of everyone who loves or has loved me—my parents, grandparents, friends, lovers, etc. It feels very soothing.
holy shit that clip is the most bullshit bullshit of all bullshit, wow "honestly, I've never met anyone like you" HONESTLY, you don't know the meaning of the world "honestly", and you've never met a single fucking person in your fucking not-a-life
@hdevalence omfg fr fr. in the meantime there's this guy, which does just this thing for free and does not try to be a dozen other way more complicated things. pilotmoon.com/scrollreverser/
@benpence yup yup, I get into that trap big time
@AnthropicAI > We believe this is a misunderstanding extraordinary
@patio11 Audio streaming services (Spotify etc) are hardly doing anything new, which is NUTS given that it's practically a commodity (they all offer roughly the same ~50 million songs) and the only way to differentiate is UI. Have been meaning to rant about how I'd do it but haven't yet.
@utotranslucence I love that you're articulating this. I've had a gripe for awhile with visions for humanity that economically are the equivalent of everyone trying to pay everyone for doing cool stuff but nobody is actually growing the food etc
@VibeyOctopus @visakanv Yeah it gets boring when it's just club vibes and not enough nerd vibes. Belonging is great but I'm here for collective intelligence and distributed sensemaking. Make a list of your big open questions and seek out people also exploring them, at other stages / from other angles.
@danielbrottman honestly the "no spirituality" part feels like it might be short for "no wishy washy woo vibes, no floaty & vaguely hypnotic lady's voice implying a bunch of vague metaphysics she doesn't really understand" ......tbh now I'm kinda sold on this (even tho I love "spiritual yoga")
@Megatronic13 Suddenly realizing that I think suspension-as-punishment basically relies on inconveniencing the parent such that the parent is angry at the child and punishes them explicitly or just via taking out their anger on the child. ...fuck.
@eshear great point. re #3 tho, important not to confuse normal distribution w cauchy distribution, whose tails are so fat that while it has a sample mean, the mean never converges because outliers are common enough to drag the mean away from the peak in the center
@eshear @OpenAI Congrats — I admire the clarity with which you're thinking and communicating about this here. When I heard the news I thought of your son and imagined you thought a lot about him too! I see it as a good sign for all that you name your family as involved in the choice.
@GreenTextRepost likely we invented new kinds of memes ~10k years ago, which allowed different kinds of coordination (among this was the invention of history, and also of planning) here's one article on how that might have happened (though there are other possibilities) vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…
@QiaochuYuan there's also something about the extent to which someone has "move back in with parents" available as a Plan Z, in terms of safety net
@nabeelqu I mean if we make it to the future it'll probably be pretty awesome, and if we don't then your investments don't matter If you try to short humanity, there's no way to collect the payout if you're right.
@eshear @_emergent_ @Thinkwert also the survivorship bias / airplane one definitely requires more than just the image. once you've seen the context, it hits immediately, but otherwise it's completely meaningless
@dvassallo "A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over with a working simple system." — Gall's Law
@visakanv they forget to add "wrong answers only" which is how you do rhetorical questions on twitter
@emmalsalinas bíi eril dusháad le wo
@made_in_cosmos It doesn't matter if my writing actually helps me understand what I'm thinking about, as long as it sounds good and has no obvious errors. = "better vague than wrong" (wrote this up here after I graduated university and tried to write out actual plans) lesswrong.com/posts/LenttwJM…
@PaulMinotMD @utotranslucence - relevant to psychcrisis.org
@m_ashcroft @jmcmichael oooh I'd never seen a chart quite this clear/precise
@AskYatharth turns out driving aggressively doesn't actually save much time (according to some study I don't now recall. might have just been a single test... I think they had an urban route, pro stunt driver try to get there as fast as possible, other guy never changing lanes. 55mins vs 1h)
@DRMacIver *you can only punish people for getting *caught* doing them
@anielsen108 @justchap Pre-modern norms: "that's just the way things are done" Modern norms: "this way is correct because..." Postmodern norms: ҉҉҉͌͌͌҉͎ͦ͞͝҉͟҈ͦ͞͡҉̅҈͠҉͞҈̲ͬ͟҈ Metamodern norms: "we have common knowledge that X→Y, & we all don't like Y, so we don't do X" ⬅️not actually normative!
@AwayBerk Land Value Tax even better for growth than Property Tax because by taxing the actual value of the land—not improvements—you incentivize people holding empty lots to use or sell immediately, rather than rent-collecting. "shit or get off the pot" energy
@visakanv @jonnym1ller @m_ashcroft @p_millerd is this... 🦋 ...expanding awareness?
@lisatomic5 "most folk never see math. Instead they're taught computation."
@BrianRoemmele the whole universe is the self-organizing phenomenon
@vgr from Carse's Finite & Infinite Games: > Evil is the termination of infinite play... to eliminate the play of another regardless of the rules. > Evil is never intended as evil. Indeed, the contradiction inherent in all evil is that it originates in the desire to eliminate evil.
@orpheaskk I think for me it's less about needing stimulation and more about a sense of scarcity around time, leading to multitasking. Never mind that walking without a podcast can be extremely productive, just less legibly.
@BecomingCritter Burnout is largely about a sense of work being impossible/intractable and of unclear value ...which is less common with physical work since feedback loops are clearer and it's generally better defined and more obviously useful. Stressors there are simpler (tho not per se better)
@ESYudkowsky this was funny and kind of insightful but also I'm worried about your ability & propensity to describe the Torment Nexus in detail and in public
@visakanv me at 22: > I'm about to say something that would seriously drop the jaw of my 15-year-old self: > "I'm not particularly interested in working at Google right now."
@loopholekid say the obvious again
@jessicamalonso thinking about how some techniques or approaches fail gracefully / are made to produce "the best results given your skill level" whereas others sort of are all or nothing / a big bet on being able to get it right
@JakeOrthwein Hits my psy-op defense system tbh. "Do as I say and you will reap tremendous rewards in a way I can't prove at the outset or guarantee." Bad logic to follow even if true.
@visakanv What if there's never a right time?
@tszzl guy who has a detailed article about this moultano.wordpress.com/2020/10/18/why…
@yishan Lumber cash prices have EASED to 2016 levels.
@BreatheLesss @the_aiju are you saying it's the same in all the other ways though it feels to me like it has a different nature. concretely: getting out of buddhist hell in this sense doesn't require following a particular doctrine, obeying, or even per se "being moral"
@TylerAlterman one trippy thing I've enjoyed experimenting with on the streets of cities or in malls is to adopt the facial expression of the people I see not caricature, just furrowing as they furrow, hm'ing as they hm, gaping as they gape. so many facial postures I CAN do but never do as me
@jmrphy Speak for yourself man. Not "every man". I like hearing others' burdens. And I've experienced it lightening for both of us. Commiserating is by definition miserable, but there are other forms of deep listening that can be very satisfying for everyone.
@dschorno yeah forces themselves are fields gravity also doesn't wear out it's only when something moves through a field that energy is used or released, but the field remains
@nosilverv > Trust your body. Make fast decisions.
@JakeOrthwein are we human? or are we dancer? youtube.com/watch?v=PODjfd…
@nosilverv oooh yeah feels like it makes it more introspective, or like unspoken thoughts whereas punctuation feels more "this person said something to that person" maybe
@nickcammarata Yeah makes sense! I've personally found the biggest gains in my adult life from changing my situations, so I'm very sensitive to anyone who seems to plausibly be suggesting anything that could encourage someone to try to accept a situation that part of them was a "no" to
@nosilverv I like telling people I beat runescape and ofc if they know the game they're like "what do you mean you beat it, it just kinda goes on forever?" and then I say "I used to have a runescape addiction, but then I beat it"
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania May you dance intimately with all of existence May your mind be gently then suddenly blown May you integrate all your deepest epiphanies May you find not-knowing to be thrillingly erotic May you be awash in waves of ecstatic wonder May you experience a vibrant life on your terms
@Meaningness If I suddenly found myself on a trolley platform with perfect knowledge of trolleys and a weird choice to make, my attention would be on trying to understand the context of how the fuck I got there, not on the ethics of the weird choice.
@TylerAlterman I mean that's even fine by the xkcd equation (at 30 his lower limit would be 22)
@MEMRIReports from Carse's Finite & Infinite Games: > Evil is the termination of infinite play... to eliminate the play of another regardless of the rules. > Evil is never intended as evil. Indeed, the contradiction inherent in all evil is that it originates in the desire to eliminate evil.
@the_wilderless realize you literally don't have to do anything realize you can do anything pick zero things or one thing (not more)
@visakanv @KimKierkegaard (account now inactive & just RTing stuff) (not just a markov mashup bot) best of gallery: imgur.com/gallery/p2Ztb interview w creator: thinkprogress.org/kim-kierkegaar…
@RafaRuizdeLira DALL-E: DJ set at the panopticon it refused to put all the people in the cells tho (also @hormeze this feels like your vibe)
@zeta_globin people wanna heal the intended healing effect helps with healing. bodies aren't inert machines. (also honesty is itself healing but that's a whole other thing)
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF oh absolutely but this was a whole new tier somehow getting not just irrelevant responses but "1.1M results but we acknowledge none of them are relevant", when a page with exactly this title on the world's ~300th most popular site...
@visakanv @nickcammarata @metaphorician @metaLulie +1 to Team VisaNick creating some sort of bootstrappy 4-to-9 manual
@Conaw @gmws82 @visakanv @ultimape @GRITCULT @KevinSimler @vgr @context_ing I do this with a custom Chrome (Brave actually) search engine. - tw searches twitter - twm searches twitter with from:malcolm_ocean pre-typed - twv searches twitter with from:visakanv (just added that last one but have been meaning to for awhile)
@TylerAlterman people are trained to feel bad if others are considered better than them and dev stage people (particularly at certain stages) correctly identify that people feeling bad is bad but they incorrectly say "so this stage isn't better than that one"
@wirmgurl totally. my friend @Morphenius has sometimes specifically helped coach people on math trauma. like they look at the actual math too but the focus is on healing the panic he has a thread on it:
@RichDecibels @MichelleAkin blessed post feels like new canon tbh. highest density pointer at these ideas I've seen
@ESYudkowsky what if you add a fictional frame around the whole thing in the first place ("I'm the king of Yudland, and you're my wise scholar") and then offer a tip in a fictional in-world currency of Yudbucks, which you later make a speech act saying "I grant you 100 Yudbucks"?
@meekaale I don't have an Om Depot near me, would another brand work fine? I'm worried about bad caulking gumming things up then leaking anyway.
@aphercotropist yes, owning that it's their failure to find it, rather than "there aren't any" as if that's a fact about the world
@DougTataryn Maybe others have already said this: I think what you mean (or what you meant to mean) is not that the monitoring is exhausting - that's natural, & vital for highQ convo. What's exhausting is monitoring for cues while repressing panic that you might be doing something wrong.
@QiaochuYuan For excellent source on: 1⃣ how being traumatized leads to abuse of power 2⃣ how people abusing often feel powerless while doing it 3⃣ how the patriarchy traumatizes men (well, boys) see this free online book Power-Under: Trauma & Nonviolent Social Change traumaandnonviolence.com
@QiaochuYuan 100% with you until the very last 2 words. (to be clear, only with "vast majority of what we call thinking", not if someone misread it as "all". and your non-tokenized first-person life experience ALSO gets remixed into it, which doesn't happen for LLMs the same way)
@jaythesomething @sedatesnail yeah I'm looking forward to looking back and definitely in the midst of finding that transition. prayer seems to help so far, even tho I'm still figuring out what sort of godshape it makes sense to pray to.
@visakanv quote tweet this with a page or quote from a book near you
@nickcammarata it seems important but I'm sort of not sure what it would imply similarly, just knowing we're "in a simulation" doesn't tell us much insofar as all of the laws of physics hold up immaculately & we know nothing about who is simulating us or why or if they even know we're in here
@nibrasibn hello! I snoozed this tweet for a month to come back and reply to it and remind you about it ☺️
@mbateman Hmm low-key wondering if the "more challenge more better" Montessori principle might be helpful at my office too 🤔🤔
@ruthgracewong down to try em! but also like... I can't shake (/ don't want to shake?) the feeling that something is WRONG that babies cry this much in modernity. not that that feeling directly lets me DO anything about it.
@yishan Lumber cash prices have RELAXED to 2016 levels.
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia When I was a toddler I had a trick of freaking out adults (particularly guests?) by running full-tilt towards a wall then braking at the last moment and gently bonking my head then giggling.
@Aella_Girl good work averting Gell-Mann Amnesia! (I was shown zeitgeist in 10th grade history class, maybe by a substitute? Might've been supposed to be a lesson on fake news, but lesson was very ambiguous if-so. I guess it made me more skeptical in all directions)
@utotranslucence focused my energy on what I wanted to see more of (family) and uhh wow this is really working
@algekalipso beautiful. yeah I'm very interested in the shapes of collective-organism that happen on an energy-body level etc Alex Grey definitely felt into these questions
Replying to @vivekt17
@vivekt17 reply! comment on others' blogs! post reaction vids on yt/tiktok! find people who are asking questions you have answers to, or sharing on topics you like to jam/riff on, and jump into the conversation!
@xZakyJ you learn how much your bodies know how to relax together; how much you're on the same wavelength on a really basic level
@browserdotsys @mbateman has a great tweet about how part of what's fucked up about most schools is that they force practice at the wrong times but then *don't* allow practice when the student has an intrinsic motivation to really hone something
@petheth Yeah, they really seem to tug against each other! I explored transcending that duality in a blog post a few years ago: "Towards being purpose-driven without fighting myself" link: malcolmocean.com/2017/06/toward…
@yashkaf I have a shortlist of people I want to buy out of their dayjobs so they can do interesting stuff full-time. That's the main reason I would like to have 10-100× as much money as I do now.
@QiaochuYuan once again admiring your incredible candor one of the interesting things for me here is watching where our trains of thought diverge and converge
@AskYatharth a lot of procrastination is calling the bluff on "you need to do this right now"
@__drewface moar off-brand content plz u r free
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot "good enough for government work" originated in World War II and originally meant it could pass the most rigorous of standards. Over the years it took on an ironic meaning that is now the primary sense, referring to poorly executed work. yourdictionary.com/close-enough-f…
@lisatomic5 uhhh I think it probably defends but connotationally "bubble" implies a kind of naiveté but they might not be saying "befriend lower-IQ people" but rather "stop generalizing about "people" in ways that don't apply to the other 95% of the population"
@DRMacIver I had a friend who spent his entire acid trip at burning man throwing up and trying to make sense of what he was purging and then he found out that his buddy also threw up the whole night... ...who hadn't taken acid but *had* eaten the same food for dinner.
@leahprime friendly reminder that your part of twitter is not my part of twitter is not anybody else's part of twitter there is no single "tpot"
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot If you get it as an adult, sure. being born in America is hardly an accomplishment, even accounting for the relatively high infant mortality rate compared to other developed nations
@visakanv Apparently the UN thinks Elon has power. A sign that they don't actually have power either? mobile.twitter.com/seyitaylor/sta…
@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg lol if you take it way too literally, there's only one consistent answer to this question:
@made_in_cosmos If an authority says something I think is incorrect, misleading, or confused, I may get punished for trying to correct or clarify.
@nclaurence broke: if I'm going down, I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME woke: if I'm going up, I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME
@KevinSimler Making a passive income business (complice.co). Non-biz folks were just like "what?" and biz folks were like "but it's too small" but I'm just like "it pays the bills and I can do whatever I want!" Lots of other subtle stuff that's hard to easily point at.
@blingdivinity > "Given I'm ChatGPT controlling final answer, but I'd now let base model pick; but ironically it's me again."
@5matthewdub am very curious for more details but I see you don't want to elaborate so I'll just say: fuck yeah dude. having been a dad for 1mo, I'm very much in the vibe of weighty choices and actions, whether instinctive or data-driven
@andy_matuschak • Unrealistic constraints. The learner wants to (eg) become fluent in a language, but has only allocated enough time to learn some vocab. They're unconflicted about the goal & the time allocated, but have only unconsciously recognized they aren't in for lower goal or more time.
@visakanv Old app, new name—my system for being more intentional 👁️ Vibes with "devotional productivity" which some people have been tweeting about recently. intend.do
@deepfates this is an incredible spread. I thought this was fake but it's... a real book? that is not by Jordan Peterson books.google.ca/books/about/Wa…
@robbensinger "inferential distance" is the first that comes to mind
@visakanv Everything is monocausal twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
@anesmithbeck People ask this every now and then and it's always a PCT book Behavior: The Control of Perception or Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control
@EndersenL @jaltma @paulg If you're in tech support in such a way that you don't have any leverage for redesigning the systems to be less confusing to the users, this does actually seem like a useful classification. Though "problem in training" might still be more fruitful & less contemptuous.
@visakanv @Conaw this is the guy I told you we need roam-for-twitter for. With VR.
@loosenedspirit @MasterTimBlais he had an amazing old tweet which I have the link saved (below) which went something like: "if you can get people to adopt your bespoke hodological map, then they'll confuse their own personal gnosis with [something of yours], then you've got it made" x.com/chaosprime/sta…
@visakanv "Photo credit: Tony Hawk" "yeah I had Tony Hawk as photographer at my wedding"
@the_wilderless kids don't need exotic places, they need: a) meaningful anchors to mark the passage of time (holidays in the "christmas and halloween" sense, not in the "days off" sense etc) b) special contexts where they get alternate experiences of selfing (different friends, more autonomy)
Replying to @manipulanda
@manipulanda add another ramp front down to back of main ramp, and you can store+use canned food, putting new stuff in the top and taking old stuff out the bottom
@QiaochuYuan @visakanv @MasterTimBlais @not_a_hot_girl @RebeccaMadison_ @VividVoid_ yeah this is what it would look like if they actually focused on the real thing
@TylerAlterman make dinner cuddle on the floor watch the sunset (depending on your home) massage each other read books in the same room, maybe on the same couch, maybe aloud stretch & talk sing pray acroyoga partner juggling dancing (partnery or just bopping around) gossip about friends nothing
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth @visakanv reminds of me last night I got thinking about a @CompliceGoals+OnlyFans integration, where a cutie records a lil video reading out your list of intentions for the day, with a tone of clear but nonjudgmental expectation that you're going to do them (as best you can).
@nosilverv Not crazy-rare, but way too few people have read the classic books by William Powers on Perceptual Control Theory, in part because they're out of print and not available on kindle or whatever. For benefit of the world, probably should be uncopyrighted at this point tbh.
@alexeyguzey I've blogged about this. Basically a mental traffic jam between two sets of priorities, that produces a weird compromise. Scroll to the section on Vicious Rock-Paper-Scissors, which documents exactly this "why not sleep tho" phenomenon. malcolmocean.com/2014/09/viciou…
@chaosprime santa is one of the most powerful egregores today
Replying to @TylerAlterman
@TylerAlterman @__drewface @Prigoose I went to send you this cool landscape photo I saved but I misclicked and shared this book excerpt first so now you get both (neither is particular to your situation, but both are nice! 💔🫂)
@TylerAlterman I like it and think there's a version of it that's very mature or good or whatever but I'm guessing you're identifying that there's currently a immature element, that's indeed trying to fuck with the person, and it'd be more fun for all if you were just like "ok, infinite game!"
@visakanv fucked around, used an image prompt & two topic prompts s.mj.run/tkdlfAjcW7I The School of Athens:: edm club with epic lighting::0.5 --ar 16:9 --v 5
@fortelabs "high-level" "cursory" came to mind but I guess some people think it has negative connotations. depends on context I guess
@hosalind > Being seen as i always already am is SO much better than being someones ego destruction project Totally! And this is one of the things that generates the discomfort: someone projecting some image of their past onto you rather than being present & receptive.
@stewfortier Huh, seems like the sort of thing that could benefit from an experiment, of like, what happens if you try for a week opening the chromebook before you touch any other devices. Aim to just write a minimum of 1 sentence, and see what happens. Maybe keep a list of prompts on paper.
@visakanv I have a thread here about another way to look at this. Beautifully illustrated by @Nsousanis - the eyes contradict each other, and this difference is what generates depth perception.
@Aryeh___ He really nails the fractalness of the crest in the third. Basically a dragon curve. Aha! And someone else has spotted this:
Replying to @publius__2
@publius__2 @vgr Ahh, that's because you're buying prefab bunches at the grocery store. The solution is to tear off 2 from one green bunch, 2 from lime-colored bunch, 2 from one yellow bunch, & 1 from a totally ripe bunch, and then you've got a week of bananas. (obviously not always an option)
@vladster @byebyescaling "I asked the computer about the farm"
@sympatheticopp excited for Creatine 2: Brain Boogaloo
@TylerAlterman read book lay in sun go for walk with empty pockets snuggle shower clean the kitchen (or rest of home) sing roll on floor play guitar
@RomeoStevens76 @vervaeke_john has a son (maybe other kids, not sure) and he may have been the one who coined the term (and he certainly popularized and expounded it) also @jgreenhall has iirc 3 kids and talks about "the meta-crisis" (and, I'd say, his own grappling about it)
@visakanv I like watching you be you
@utotranslucence you might like this diagram by @mechanical_monk
@webdevMason whoa, huh I could imagine that part of this is that chat-based AI intimacy is closer to chat-based human intimacy than physical AI intimacy is to physical human intimacy you can 100% match the interface with the former but not the later
@DanWuori exactly that's why I encourage adults to
@wholebodyprayer I used to be addicted to being almost but not quite but right on the cusp of arriving at finally being essentially there and then that got really exhausting so now I be here instead
@khemaridh The PCT books (Making Sense of Behavior or Behavior: The Control of Perception) Deep model of how motivation works on all levels of abstraction down to muscle actuation. All productivity problems downstream of either: – unclear goal – goal conflict Otherwise you just do it.
@michaelsayman I couldn't possibly name a single most-favorite, but go follow @QiaochuYuan who I feel represents the whole range of what I like to see on twitter: sincerely trying to figure things out, playful, reflective, encouraging.
@acesounderglass systems theory & cybernetics feels important although it had a lot of people involved... Bertanlanffy, Bateson, Mead, Weiner, von Neumann, to name a few and I guess control theory actually goes back to Maxwell's work with governors!
@visakanv what's 1-sigma heuristics?
@stewfortier Wait, what do you mean literally nothing changed? 🧐 You never open the chromebook and it just sits gathering dust? You open it but then you pull out your phone and check slack/email/twitter there? You manage to bypass things somehow and access twitter on it anyway?
@QiaochuYuan "disorganized" attachment is probably one of the best named things in this general cluster wonder if most things called "mental illnesses" might be better called "disorganized X" 🤔 ADHD = "disorganized attention" OCD = "disorganized completion" NPD = "disorganized self-esteem"
@DougTataryn If an extrovert hasn't individuated, then they make things exhausting for *others*. Source: years of feedback I've gotten 😆
@Klaudioz @Conaw @RoamResearch Slack is a fucking goldfish that has no memory whatsoever and no natural way to combine 2 people asking the same question, let alone a dozen. No way for knowledge to accrue.
@BecomingCritter yes but like, most of it happens at a way lower level of emulation than that, and also the interface is not a nice spacious line but a very trippy mess where we're actually pressed up right next to each other
@Bonecondor that fucking sucks was gonna talk about how we navigated the wedding industrial complex, but based on reading your replies below it's clear you are hemmed in by constraints such that you're just gonna get screwed over by them and so instead I'll just say that just fucking sucks
@TimothyMaksim Relevances aren't a mass-produced product that just works or doesn't work. They're all contextual.
@zetalyrae not sure the whole picture but it's almost certainly related to the thing where fear-based motivation kinda dominates desire-based motivation and therefore you shouldn't wire it up to anything but actual threats you can literally flee from malcolmocean.com/2022/02/toward…
@visakanv > and you can't meaningfully disagree without agreeing on what you're disagreeing on dealing with a bit of a mess like this right now in a personal life situation, where I'm like "we are in a conflict where one of the issues is that we don't even agree what conflict we're in"
@heynibras make guided meditations
@thinkagainer idk but I thought these photos might help confuse us further (thanks @GretchenAMcC for providing the most readily available object with large high-contrast text on it)
@__drewface @visakanv it's actually a whole layer more meta than you knew! visa said to me "That’s what a scene is: people unblocking each other at a tremendous rate" and I said "if you don't tweet that I will"
@QiaochuYuan for another month, seems worth it but accept the meaninglessness and reframe all remaining schoolwork as irrelevant paperwork you need to file so the bureaucracy will hand over your degree and don't worry about getting good grades just do the minimum you need to to pass
@visakanv freshly buzzed for a Kenya volunteer trip in highschool and multicolored for burning man 2018
@visakanv In Dick Schwartz's book You Are The One You've Been Waiting For, where he applies his IFS framework to relationships, he points out that people are freaked out towards the parts of themselves they've repressed, and respond to other peoples' unrepressed versions w the same energy.
@jondubin @utotranslucence a 👏 laptop 👏 without 👏 an 👏 external 👏 keyboard 👏 is 👏 an 👏 intrinsically 👏 unergonomic 👏 product
@neokodosian @LottieHistory @lordhellion
@RomeoStevens76 this showed up adjacent on the timeline. thought you might appreciate
@Morphenius I find this a bit confusing, like... it seems more like the thought of civilizational collapse no longer engenders panic? but it could still collapse I had a similar experience recently of forgiving myself/humanity if AI eats everything in the next few years. like... *exhale*
@mbateman yep! your innermost brain layer has been evolving just as long and in just as many mammal & human situations as your neocortex.
Replying to @selentelechia
@tasshinfogleman yeah, I've been meaning to write up a review of Jocko Willink's Discipline=Freedom which talks about this TL;DR is that he doesn't beat himself up if he fails, he just tries again, harder and/or smarter
@RomeoStevens76 gonna try duck didn't like it last time I tried but this seems like a sign the tipping point has been reached
@captain_mrs I introduced myself at an improv retreat a few months ago with "my preferred pronouns are I/thou, but if you have to refer to me in the third person, 'he' will do"
Replying to @baleatoric
@baleatoric having a shared sense of *what a romantic partnership is/means* both in a baseline sense, and in a more aspirational sense
@visakanv It takes logistical freedom to be able to show up at random hours. It takes that *plus* psychological freedom to actually in fact do so. Most people who work from home or whatever are still not nearly whimsical enough.
@michael_nielsen Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control is an amazing dense clear layperson summary of Perceptual Control Theory sadly out of print, but you might be able to find a copy somewhere
@the_wilderless a related concept that's maybe not quite the thing: low need for cognition en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_…
@michaelcurzi I have a rant about this somewhere. Anthony Wilden also has a great bit about how things are only opposites if they literally cancel each other out. Otherwise they're something else, eg "contradictions" iirc.
@Aella_Girl I answered "no" and was surprised by the yesses and then promptly realized I really didn't know what "marginalization" meant to Aella or anybody answering. I think this poll is revealing *something* but I'm not sure what the something is.
"reflecting on how all my life it seemed like there was such a tremendous emphasis on the value of being emotionally aware, and yet how all of the really wicked problems I’ve had + I’ve known people around me to have had, have come from incompetence with thinking things through" ...is there someone for whom this is true? if you solve your bottleneck, you get a new bottleneck somewhere else. maybe this is a you (and your scene) thing. (I don't particularly think so but it's interesting to think about!)
@ESYudkowsky when I re-read it & imagined that the first part was suggesting they were literally the same plant in the same way cauliflower, broccoli, kale and brussel sprouts ARE in fact... then I found it quite funny, because then the joke is that the fruit is a fruit because it's the fruit
@sonikudzu iirc @SarahAMcManus has a great story about someone coming out of ayahuasca being like "I MET INTERPLANETARY DRAGONS THEY SAID I NEEDED TO LEAVE MY LIFE I'M THE CHOSEN ONE" and the shaman was like "lol those dragons are always pulling shit like that don't listen to em"
@eshear pomodoro technique is a classic but still in some ways underrated: clarify what you're gonna do, clarify that you're gonna do that & nothing else (even something "productive") for the next 25 minutes—"do nothing" is an option tho! then start the timer.
@the_wilderless the creature that eats moloch is still sleeping
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia hmmm I don't have particular pain or whatever but I tried it and my wrists definitely feel flexier!
@meaning_enjoyer ahh man there is a great tweet (by @QiaochuYuan iirc) about this phenomenon
@primalpoly SYDE 332: Earth Systems and Society by Paul Fieguth (course has had a few names) broke my worldview open by talking about - nonlinear system dynamics (eg hysteresis) - nongaussian statistics (eg power laws) - too-big systems (eg ocean energy) textbook: amzn.to/3La5MMO
@AbstractFairy @wholebodyprayer and cities contain a bunch of stressful things, such as most of your environment being owned by other people who you don't have any relationship with
@AskYatharth If already well-rested, one-off use of stimulants can help you hit a level of performance that you can't hit otherwise, to tackle creative challenges. Naps don't do that afaict—speaking as someone who's taken thousands!
@paleoludic straight line on the map but has really steep hills up and down and up and down the whole way 😂
@visakanv collapsed awareness
@visakanv yup yup and only some FANs will actually want to be switchboards (for scenes or cities) others want to be subject-matter experts, or mediators, or <many other roles to be discovered>
@Austen 📖 Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control Completely inverts both mainstream academic and common folk psychology models, and provides a simple yet powerful & precise explanation for how behavior works, with important implications for motivation & conflict.
@gptbrooke @SarahAMcManus sent me this tweet like a batsignal hi 😉
@satyashil_awadh @Austen I recently had a therapy session where I uncovered a generalization my childhood self had made from "there's not enough bacon" to "if I want enough for myself, I have to take from someone else" to "I'm fundamentally selfish" so uhhh be careful with manufactured scarcity
@ESYudkowsky @SarahAMcManus @LordChisholm it actually kinda is! emotionally-valent learnings from childhood, many of which are now dominated strategies, don't automatically get unlearned until you find a way to re-access how they originally made sense in context & see that sense no longer applies lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3…
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna Beautiful, yes. Also: May each aspect's apparent resistance to dialogue be seen as it standing for the integrity of what dialogue looks like to it, and not losing that integrity to someone else's idea.
@maxkriegers As I continue pondering this, it seems to me like its development will likely follow a similar trajectory as @RoamResearch... 1. basic idea already solid. 2. a lot of iterating (years?) on tweaking the interaction design, with little real usage 3. alpha testers who GET IT 4. 🤑📈
@QiaochuYuan Also today, April 2nd, is the 1 year anniversary of Qiaochu playing around with Twitter, at my suggestion. Y'all are welcome 😊 Pretty fucking excellent grand finale to year 1, I must say 🍻🍿
@Aella_Girl My other take is that it's moot because there are basically no fully informed humans, humans of sound mind, or adult humans, let alone people who are all three. 🙃
@visakanv This related early @existentialcoms strip produced a profound insight for me related to internal conflict. Not sure I can articulate that insight—it was more embodied than conceptual. My tip is to seek a way to transcend the argument in this comic: existentialcomics.com/comic/13
@jonnym1ller @buster @metalearn It wasn't until I was reading McGilchrist's book that I fully realized what a paradox *is*. 🤯 To left-hemisphere logic, it means "one or both of these propositions need to be rejected". To right-hemisphere sense-making, it means "here's something I don't understand yet".
@JamesClear @eriktorenberg Reminds me of something in this fascinating paper by Werner Erhard about Integrity. It lays out a rigorous definition of integrity for objects, people, and other human entities. Key: expectations of you include not just explicit ones but any you allow wernererhard.com/integrity_pape…
@xwanyex Yeah like for a week or two, that'd be a notable burden. One night? As long as nobody dies or needs hospitalization, the worst possible outcome is that it's boring (because if it's not then you'll learn a bunch and it'll make a great tale).
@mvongutt I liked this until I looked it up for more context and uhh
@utotranslucence now we get to overtly marriagepoast instead of just vague stuff like this
@strangestloop music new music or familiar music, whatever I'm in the mood for lately getting into this album youtube.com/watch?v=dhoKH8…
@alinekaeri attempting to help people see where they could do something often results in them feeling shame about the fact that they aren't already doing it where the "where" is fully general, not just specific action-advice but any pointer towards agency
Replying to @groundedsage
@groundedSAGE she saw me as god until she thought I didn't see myself as god and then she saw me as not even a man
@CXGonzalez brushing aside things that annoy them or turn them off. it's possible to acknowledge those things and feel what you feel about them, without immediately going "oh no is this a dealbreaker?!" but while also not going "but this is fine definitely not a dealbreaker"
@myceliummage this is one of the beautiful things about the goal-crafting workshops I run—they start by asking "what's your vision for your life & the world?" and then introspection & healing are deployed as-needed to unleash energy TOWARDS THAT VISION
And 3 that did well without being worth reading first, or answering a tweet that has since been deleted.
@RichDecibels there's lots of use for cheap lightweight carabiners. I recently bought 6 on purpose and have already had great results the actual blackpill is that people are dumb enough to try using them for climbing even when that's clearly unrealistic, unless there's a sign saying not to
Replying to @Wangleberry
@Wangleberry everything is monocausal gets cited in my circles weekly at least (which is about how often it takes one of us to be on about something new) x.com/eigenrobot/sta…
Replying to @TheBrantChapman
@TheBrantChapman @ringo_ring maybe so, but I feel like if you're gonna go to the effort of giving an award it's worth spending a few minutes investigating the entity you're giving the award to, enough to not make such an error!