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October 2018

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Retweeted @garybasin

If foundations of math can be constructed so differently... how about our major industries, or social institutions? https://…

I was looking up things for shifting circadian rhythms, because I've been up nearly til dawn since getting back to Waterloo, and I found these, which also are maybe good for SAD. Figured I'd tag @byudkowsky & @Meaningness, & @ESYudkowsky I suppose! re-timer.com/benefits-for/s…

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

@dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis Hmm, but on the flip side, is it not a bit conditional on them continuing to be the person you love and not doing acts you don’t like? Like if they develop alcoholism and start physically abusing you you may need to stop loving them...

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@autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis On the third hand, you're in some sense placing a bet of the form "I bet that our growth will be mutually compatible — conditional on us being in relationship". Obviously there are limits, as you said, but you're also taking responsibility for resolving conflicts.

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

Things I want for the meta/fluid/infinite game community to birth itself into existence: 1 Online forum with a breathable access membrane 2 Blogroll/curated list of content 3 Place for practice (Nomic, anyone?) 4 Experimental meta institution 5 Meatspace meetup (Bay, Boulder?)

@autotrnslucence I'm interested in co-thinking about how to design breathable access membranes, assuming we're talking semi-permeable but not just fully open. Seems like a fascinating puzzle...

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Replying to Charlie Awbery @_awbery_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis I just added ‘interwinglement’ to the back of my Anki card options for “What is my favourite word right now?”

@_awbery_ @autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis It's an important meta-systematicity term! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwin…

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Retweeted @_awbery_

@Malcolm_Ocean @autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis Hah, I thought it was vaguely familiar. I am now…

Replying to @imhinesmi

@imhinesmi @autotrnslucence 💡! I just had a weird idea which is probably bad but maybe something adjacent is good: Have a secret condition, eg using a particular word or phrase 3×, that gets you automatically invited to hidden rooms. Add a delay so it's harder to tell why.

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Aikido instead.

Michael Taft @OortCloudAtlas ·

It’s all just layers of resistance. Stop resisting.

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

@coachnateb @cognazor @danlistensto @selfprime Aw man, I wish this was a more prevalent belief in our society. Seriously wishing for a children's rights movement to follow the women, racial minorities and LGBT community.

@autotrnslucence @coachnateb @cognazor @danlistensto @selfprime Talk to @reasonisfun

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..."captcha"? I'm guessing that's not what they're looking for... hm.

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I'll have my defense mechanisms call your defense mechanisms.

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Retweeted @visakanv

help me out here, I'm looking for a 1-word compression: "seek relief from tiredness" -> rest "get rid of stuff you don't ne…

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Replying to Charlie Awbery @_awbery_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis Hah, I thought it was vaguely familiar. I am now converting to Intertwingularitarianism.

@_awbery_ @autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis Inspired by this exchange I've made myself a new twitter header photo :) #intertwingularity #intertwingled

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Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@_awbery_ @autotrnslucence @dopaminendreams @cognazor @TellYourSonThis Inspired by this exchange I've made myself a new…

Replying to GRITCULT @GRITCULT ·

I'm working on it. This is only one account, I have others. Over 200 threads. The problem is quite complex. I'm not sure how to proceed. As each goal will create a problem of how to achieve it. Also the interconnectedness of threads increases complexity of problems.

quoting @kriskarzy: @GRITCULT Is there a way to unpack all the threads or roll it into a book that I can download or Print? This is too valuable for me to just be on Twitter

@GRITCULT For linear threads: @threadreaderapp. @kriskarzy For branchy conversations: Treeverse chrome.google.com/webstore/detai… I want an app that lets you send tweets in-thread while browsing tree-wise, and would contribute $200-500 towards someone making it. RT if also interested.

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Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@GRITCULT For linear threads: @threadreaderapp. @kriskarzy For branchy conversations: Treeverse chrome.google.com/webstore/detai……

@GRITCULT @threadreaderapp @kriskarzy The spread in dollar values is multi-factor; it depends on: • how much is this app barely-usable vs AMAZING? • can I get a share of the revenue if it has a subscription fee? • how much will they take my design input or business advice? • (probably more)

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Replying to GRITCULT @GRITCULT ·

@vie_tor @Malcolm_Ocean @MimeticValue @threadreaderapp @kriskarzy That's what he is willing to pay people for my guy

@GRITCULT @vie_tor @MimeticValue @threadreaderapp @kriskarzy I mean, I could sketch out a pretty complete design if someone were game to build it. I have thought of making it myself but I have other projects taking up most of my time.

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Retweeted @Meaningness

1️⃣ Five years ago, I suggested systematically Sokaling all peer-reviewed journals. To “Sokal” is, hereby, to attempt to p…

Replying to auto @autodidetic ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @GRITCULT @MimeticValue @threadreaderapp @kriskarzy Well twitter threads are stacked. Most interactive ones show up first or first to arrive. And the next tweet goes next depending on how the algorithm works. When the relationship diverts another one is started. So you want a tabbed twitter client

@vie_tor @GRITCULT @MimeticValue @threadreaderapp @kriskarzy 1/ Hmm, I don't think just tabbed lets you see the full structure of the thing. My dream client would also allow like... selecting a blob of tweets that are all in the same conversation and making a permalink to those tweets, in a way that lets people expand to see more context.

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@vie_tor @GRITCULT @MimeticValue @threadreaderapp @kriskarzy 2/ That would allow more meta-commentary, eg "these two people/tweets are actually saying the same thing, but they're talking past each other because..." or "these are all examples of..." Currently branching can only go outwards. Not unreasonable, but synthesis is important!

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Replying to @simpolism @simpolism ·

@heylukegibson @_molten_steel_ @Malcolm_Ocean @fortelabs Perhaps the essence of a build/drop is the conversion of potential (anticipatory) to kinetic (physical, dancefloor) energy.

@simpolism @heylukegibson @_molten_steel_ @fortelabs @codymclain just wrote an article about music & energy... this seemed like the right place to link it 😜 codymclain.com/music-101/

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@KeenDisregard Perhaps Dee Hock and the VISA credit card system? (Described in his book - One from Many: VISA and the Rise of Chaordic Organization.) I'm guessing there are many more examples in the Upstart Collaboratory library... @Malcolm_Ocean ?

@SarahAMcManus @KeenDisregard Check out this transcript of a talk by Dee Hock: Institutions In The Age Of Mindcrafting. It's insightful and entertaining :) archive.li/t4Z77

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Replying to @cosimia_

@CoatOfPainter I use lots of those! A few more for me: - Napping - Eating - Working out ...the napping mental practice is very different from the working out one. Kind of opposites: relax whole body as soft as possible vs push whole body as hard as possible. Both require mindfulness.

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Retweeted @CoatOfPainter

Activities that are highly compatible with contemplation or mindfulness: - Meditation (duh) - Long walks (bonus points…

Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@CoatOfPainter I use lots of those! A few more for me: - Napping - Eating - Working out ...the napping mental practice…

Replying to @cosimia_

@CoatOfPainter @Rahul_Ramc Showers reminds me that there are kind of two categories here, one where you try really hard to do something with your attention, and another where you just let it run around whereever it goes. Both motions are key, and act as rest for the other.

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Replying to Tiago Forte @fortelabs ·

Translation of GTD's 5 steps to managing reference information: Capture > Curate (only the best items) Clarify > Summarize (the main points) Organize > Triage (based on actionability) Reflect > Exploit (by using in a project) Engage > Recycle (for future discovery)

@fortelabs These seem like a good 5 steps for info but I don't see a mapping onto those GTD steps at all... elaborate?

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For #FollowFriday, I recommend @CoatOfPainter (not a weird multicolored sun, despite the username). She consistently tweets things I want to reply to, which is my main criterion for who I want to follow.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

There are a books that people recommend because it makes them look smart, and then there are a books that people in the trenches share with each other because it saved their asses. I am very curious about the latter group. Eg: easyway to quit smoking, body keeps the score, ...?

@visakanv Great thread, *and* would be way more useful if it included what sort of trench each book is a lifesaver in! I've long wanted to collect a series of book recos of the form "if <SITUATION>, read <BOOK>" I have a few such recos I can give based on my own exp, but crowdsourced...!

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@visakanv I'd be down to host a page on my site that summarizes such recommendations. I imagine that the data could also be turned into a sort of bot that can take in a tweet-long description of your situation and come up with a decent reco. Tag: #IfThisReadThat Ask: #IfThisReadWhat

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

reality is consistently stranger than fiction because fiction follows a set of rules that are devised by the human mind, which are actually oddly limiting when reality seems unbelievable it's because your model of reality is constrained by a set of assumptions that you inherited

@visakanv And "inheritance" here is more memetic inheritance than genetic inheritance.

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Replying to Kevin Kwok @kevinakwok ·

In general people have difficulty intuitively thinking about systems where the mean moves in one direction but the variance increases even more

@kevinakwok Reminds me of the difference between exponential distribution & power law distribution. Data looks similar, but w exp, mean converges w more data, whereas w p-law, mean goes to infinity because of black swans in the fat tail. Is that what you're thinking of or something else?

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@selfprime All taboos are cultural. (My understanding of the nature of cultural evolution comes primarily from The Secret of Our Success by Joseph Henrich and The Beginning of Infinity by @DavidDeutschOxf)

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Retweeted @Hugoisms

You’ve heard of genetic controls (twins) but get ready for...MEMETIC controls (to be determined)! Now *that* would be neat

If you've fallen, and you can't get up... ...holler: pump, pump, pump, pump me up! (@TroubleFunkBand)

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Replying to Charlie Awbery @_awbery_ ·

@selfprime @Malcolm_Ocean @DavidDeutschOxf Cf. Mary Douglas’ classic anthropological text, ‘Purity and Danger’ on connection between biological evolution and purity taboos.

@_awbery_ @selfprime @DavidDeutschOxf Ahh, yeah. There's taboos that if we didn't have them we would die for biological reasons (or like, pregnant women not eating eels is a real example). In other species (or earlier hominids) this might have been a biological aversion, but sometimes no need with a cultural taboo.

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@_awbery_ @selfprime @DavidDeutschOxf Going back to @selfprime's original question, I do think that any taboo on *discussing* something must necessarily be cultural, because discussion is a cultural thing so there's no way that a non-verbal primate could *need* a biological taboo about it.

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@_awbery_ @selfprime @DavidDeutschOxf Meta discussion-based taboos, eg "why don't we discuss the reasons for our taboos?" might be biological in the sense that if ppl discussed them they might decide eg to remove the taboo against sibling-mating, and then the genetics will get them. Hallmark of unconscious culture.

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@_awbery_ @selfprime @DavidDeutschOxf But to me this somewhat breaks down the usefulness of calling a taboo cultural vs biological, which is kind of the point I was trying to make above. This thread has given me a more nuanced appreciation of there being some sort of distinction here though, so thanks for that 🙃

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Retweeted @autotrnslucence

Insanity and weirdness as evolutionarily useful social randomness... Seems obvious in hindsight? …

Retweeted @SarahAMcManus

@autotrnslucence Some fascinating takes on this in "The Secret of Our Success" by @JoHenrich ! Points at the role of cul…

Replying to Hugo @Hugoisms ·

I understand the “more democratic means every vote counts” vibe because I used to think that... But: economist.com/democracy-in-a…

@Hugoisms < see quote in photo > FPTP failed Canada at this so hard in 2011. Election called against Harper minority govt by opposition parties via non-confidence vote. In election, he got only 39% of popular vote but ended up with a *majority* govt. FPTP clearly madness with >2 parties.

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Replying to Jess (in Porto) @frideswyth ·

I have a really big, really hard bed. Everyone who sees it says “your bed is really big”. Everyone who sits on it says “your bed is REALLY hard”. Everyone who sits on or sleeps in my bed freaking LOVES it. It’s a futon mattress on a wood frame. You are all doing your beds wrong.

@ssica3003 Pics? 🙃

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@bdsvictory @_awbery_ @literalbanana I enjoy grabbing a big firm branch and walking with it for awhile, then usually discarding it in favor of being lighter and having my hands free. It feels fun to push into the ground with my arm.

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@Hugoisms To be clear, I am not at all certain that PR is what I would suggest—it has issues. But it seems REALLY obvious to me that STV is a pareto improvement over FPTP for any choice with more than 2 options. Avoids splitting & strategic voting, and encourages new options.

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@Hugoisms (That is, it's a pareto improvement aside from being a bit more expensive to count. But I would assume that cost is negligible, and that the switch mostly hasn't occurred because *any* switch is itself hard to pull off)

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@Hugoisms My other main issue is that we have only a few parties to choose from but they make decisions in a bunch of different arenas. Want progressive social policy but conservative economic policy? No way to place that vote. Direct democracy has worse issues, but...

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Retweeted @Hugoisms

I understand the “more democratic means every vote counts” vibe because I used to think that... But: economist.com/democracy-in-a…

@Hugoisms Ahhh, Popper doesn't think there *should* be more than 2 options. His critique of PR is really solid, but I'm pessimistic about 2-party systems too based on what the USA seems to be doing.

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@Hugoisms 2 parties does necessitate evolution, but diffs at the margins get dramatically magnified because of the extent to which there's a large number of ppl who always vote for one party or the other, and because of the extent to which ppl are voting fearfully rather than hopefully.

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@Hugoisms Also, as @Meaningness writes in meaningness.com/political-left… > "The two countercultures of the 1960s-80s created stable party coalitions that persisted for decades. This year, they are breaking up." Implicit coalitions exist in 2-party systems *anyway*.

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Replying to Jess (in Porto) @frideswyth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean

@ssica3003 Saw just this one first, and was like "wow that does look hard!"

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@KatjaGrace @paulg Whoa

@ben_r_hoffman @KatjaGrace @paulg There's a whole paper on how noticing that two things are the same phenomenon and noticing that a single thing can be understood multiple ways are themselves the same! …ssnationalstudies.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/thatsi… (screenshots highlight first 4 of 12 such plot-twists)

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Replying to Corlindale @corlindale ·

@KatjaGrace @paulg I love reading two of my favorite authors saying prima facie very different things, and then realising they are actually saying the same thing.

@corlindale @KatjaGrace @paulg If you love that, you'll LOVE this article by @everytstudies : everythingstudies.com/2017/12/19/the…

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Retweeted @DavidDeutschOxf

@webdevMason "Always finish what you start" (if you want to be bored, stuck, guilty, and fat).

Replying to Hugo @Hugoisms ·

@Malcolm_Ocean and I think more than 2 parties could be fine? In recent Quebec election, a party just won majority after 50 years of domination by the 2 main parties. FPTP still allows some entry (can be hard, but maybe it should be?)

@Hugoisms What I was saying about the 2011 election was that it's basically true that the 61% of people who voted Lib, NDP, etc, were voting against Harper, and they couldn't oust him. So it wasn't working as Popper said.

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@Hugoisms The other thing about having majority parties try things is that it can become a tug of war. There are a couple of bills in the states that go back and forth every time govt changes color. What a waste of energy! That's like running your furnace & AC at the same time.

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...and moreover, "deserve" is basically broken anyway.

Gary Basin @garybasin ·

You deserve very little credit for being what you are—and remember, the people who come to you irritated, bigoted, unreasoning, deserve very little discredit for being what they are.

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Replying to Hugo @Hugoisms ·

@Malcolm_Ocean But if a certain policy does seemingly work, and a diff party says when elected they’ll remove it for a different one. Why vote for them? (Granted this is a massive oversimplification of the voting process lol)

@Hugoisms Sure, if you could place your votes so precisely. In practice each voter gets to express 1-3 bits of preference each election, and every party has distasteful stuff about them, so most factors don't make the cut for changing the decision.

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@Hugoisms In addition to simplifying the voting process, "if a certain policy does seemingly work" is also a huge oversimplification. It "works" based on what set of values? Whose values? With what side effects? Moral implications? Tradeoffs?

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Replying to Lulie @reasonisfun ·

@mattguttmanorg The subjective sensation comes from (in this case mistaken) interpretations.

@reasonisfun @mattguttmanorg There is auch a thing as "too much information to be consumed in one afternoon". This sensory hypersensitivity thing seems kind of like that...

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Replying to Jason Snyder @cognazor ·

For most of human history we only told stories of the dominators. Now we tell stories of everybody. This is a wonderful thing.

@cognazor There's also... most high school History courses tend to be the stories of that domination: war, conquest, rule, etc. Rather than stories of "what was it like to live in that time?" I took a history of popular music course in uni that gave me a different sense of this though!

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@cognazor Histories that are more interesting than wars*: - History of ideas - History of philosophy - History of food - History of culture - History of technology (*legit military strategy is interesting, but that's not just history)

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Replying to Peter Ashford @kaffiene_nz ·

@sehurlburt I've been doing that, but just because it feels natural. My partner and I aren't married, so "wife" is technically wrong and "girlfriend" seems like it belittles our relationship

@kaffiene_nz @sehurlburt ^^ This! (although also "husband" and "wife" carry all sorts of connotations as well, that I'm not interested in taking on)

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@kaffiene_nz @sehurlburt I think there's an additional factor where "my girlfriend/boyfriend" implies more monogamy than "my partner". Not in very poly circles, but yes in ambiguous contexts.

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Retweeted @tasshinfogleman

several years later this is still an accurate, relevant, and forceful description of my meditation practice https://t.…

Trees have WAY more of an effect on large-scale climate features (such as temperature, storms, Hadley cells, etc) than previously understood. Everything is deeply intertwingled. @SarahAMcManus - systems ecology! theatlantic.com/science/archiv…

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Retweeted @reasonisfun

One of the most pernicious myths today. This myth causes people to: - coerce others (esp children) - coerce themselves -…

Retweeted @vgr

Normalcy is simply the majority sect of magical thinking

Current status: collectively flying in formation by the seats of our pants.

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Replying to Hugo @Hugoisms ·

I’ve decided I don’t like Lorenz Curves. It’s a static snapshot of wealth distribution that doesn’t acknowledge wealth *creation*

@Hugoisms Yeah, money is a unit of measurement & exchange. You can make more of it by taking out a loan, but that doesn't create value. You can burn a million dollars and you haven't destroyed actual value, just your ability to affect the world (assuming the money was yours).

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Retweeted @visakanv

I’ve been stewing this theory for 1 year +: Just as how the WWE isn’t a wrestling show, but a show ABOUT a wrestling show,…

Replying to @utotranslucence

@autotrnslucence Merely? :P

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Replying to 🅱🅔🅝 @ben_mathes ·

TFW you discover a wonderful blog, and it has no RSS feed, so you know you'll just lose it into the ether.

@ben_mathes I think there are apps for this. Google [site to RSS] or similar. Also often on a blog the RSS feed is hidden but if you paste the URL into feedly it'll find it.

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Replying to @sonyasupposedly

@sonyaellenmann @Lispegistus See also: if I pick a number at random between 1 and 1,000,000 you'd be surprised if it were any specific number between 1 and 1,000,000. But you'd be bamboozled if it somehow *wasn't*!

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Retweeted @fortelabs

I can’t even understand people who don’t have delusions of grandeur. What do you even have delusions about then?

Retweeted @revmirandah

"See, grandma believed that there was no “inherent meaning” in the universe... Some people might think that’s kind of a gr…

Replying to Patrick McKenzie @patio11 ·

You can imagine extensions of this to authenticate e.g. bank agents when they call you. "Do you have your online banking open? Great. Hit the S key four times; you'll see a message saying that a banker needing to talk to you will be able to quote a number. Can you see that?"

@patio11 I find it really silly when I'm on the phone with my bank and for verification they ask questions about eg current balance. I can get all of that info from the site if logged in, so why not just show me a temporary code I can read out to bypass this? Would save agent time too!

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@patio11 On that note, a random short phrase might be easier to read out and recognize than a number.

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Retweeted @DRMacIver

This was not intended to be an object lesson, but it's actually a great example of something I rant about a lot at the pub a…

@ryan_nayr_ @DRMacIver I would say that I agree in some senses but not others eg making a door lock is much easier digitally than physically. Compare the complex geometry and physics involved in building a knob or button that makes a doorknob not turn, vs if (!door.locked) {door.open()}

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@ryan_nayr_ @DRMacIver Anything logical or computational is much easier digitally. Plus you have a much bigger toolkit to draw from, instead of just what you own or can buy. Also: some physical hacks are easy with @sugru & almost impossible without. Whereas digital stuff can be more from-scratch.

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

@_awbery_ @bierlingm @dthorson @artbrock @fullydavid @jerrymichalski @akirathedon @holomeme @holochain @metacurrency @Malcolm_Ocean @_awbery_ do you have a chat scheduled with me? Or Daniel? Or someone else in this thread? Twitter replies are unclear...

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@autotrnslucence @_awbery_ @bierlingm @dthorson @artbrock @fullydavid @jerrymichalski @akirathedon @holomeme @holochain @metacurrency Let's have a chat of everybody in this thread! :P

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Retweeted @cognazor

It's okay to spontaneously weep