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Beliefs, trust, and locating people in your sense of things

8 tweets · March 2024 · 8 likes · 0 retweets · read on Twitter

Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean where do expectations fit in?

@mattgoldenberg expectations and desires are also part of current experience... I have a sense of how things might unfold and a sense of how I would like them to unfold

@mattgoldenberg anything one might be tempted to call a belief is either part of my sense of how things are or it's a propositional statement where part of my sense of how things are includes "this is the sort of thing that other people profess, or will like me if I say, or whatever"

@mattgoldenberg if you tell me "I'm in Vermont" then insofar as I trust you the part of my sense of you that is my sense of you is now located in my sense of Vermont (of course, this usually reduces to "then you are in Vermont") fuzzy ofc, but similar to knowing a person's somewhere in a room

@mattgoldenberg tho if it's been awhile since you said it, I might have a sense of your location being a thing you told me some time ago, rather than it being directly part of my sense of what's so (like seeing someone enter a room with multiple doors, not knowing if they're still in there)

@mattgoldenberg my ability to include your in-Vermont-ness in my sense of things, on the basis of you saying so, requires that I be able to trust your utterance this is, perhaps, synonymous with what it MEANS to trust your utterance: it becomes part of my sense of what's true.

@mattgoldenberg trusting your utterance involves both a broad sense of whether you lie or bullshit (which reflects my trust of people in general and also you-in-particular) and also involves the question of whether what you say is somehow incompatible with my own senses or other things I know

@mattgoldenberg it also requires that "Vermont" make sense to me. if you say "I'm in Atlantis" then I must: - sense you as metaphorically atlantissy - sense you as in a lost ocean city (but where, geographically?) - treat it as "something you said" that doesn't participate in my sense-of-things

@mattgoldenberg re the 2nd option: my sense of you isn't just about latitude-longitude location ofc if you say "I'm in the woods" I can have a sense of you in some woods even though I may have little clue where those woods ARE — it still adds to my sense of who I'm talking to!