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Bespoke offramps written by people who left the cult

7 tweets · September 2022 · 16 likes · 0 retweets · read on Twitter

I've been thinking that we could probably use bespoke offramps for cults, but it seemed obvious to me that they'd need to be written by people who'd left those exact cults, articulating new views that actually transcend & include the old views, not just pay lip service

St. Rev. Dr. Rev ⏭️☯️🏴😻 @St_Rev ·

To clarify something: "Permission structure" is the specific idea of identifying Profiles and inventing bespoke rhetorical offramps for them to drive into your faction. Designer propaganda on a mass scale.

these are obviously going to be a lot less opinionated towards a lateral viewpoint than the permission structure versions eg for vax might say something more honest like "yeah, there are risks. I eventually decided it was worth it, but it's a tough call"

St. Rev. Dr. Rev ⏭️☯️🏴😻 @St_Rev ·

My first reaction to this table is wanting to punch someone. And I'm pro-vax!

if you actually understand someone's actual experience & values, you can actually engage with them and help them figure out what's actually good for them, which is a very different kind of move

it could be that some of the people someone might be trying to influence don't actually have a deep take on the situation, they just have a bit of rhetoric that resonates with some aspect of their experience, and are thus easily given a new one but twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…

overall this offramps thing seems like it could comprise a whole sub-department of the Memetic Mediation Division of the Metamodern Post-propaganda Project

a link to some of my earlier speculation on this topic, though I don't go into much depth there:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@stephlepp Ooooh, this is very cool. Dovetails with something I'd been thinking about which is how to create an offramp or series of offramps for different extreme viewpoints. Your thread here seems like a starting point for a manual on how to do that. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

usefully working with disagreements requires understanding that different people have different context and that this necessarily informs how they see things your view is as obviously wrong to them as theirs is to you

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

whenever we have a disagreement, the first thing I want to understand is: how have your experiences have been different from mine?