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Why letting relative experts jam in public is underrated

7 tweets · November 2021 · 23 likes · 0 retweets · read on Twitter

yeah these spaces are hugely underrated even informally …let people hear experts jam!

Chris Beiser @ctbeiser ·

people really like the idea of "spaces that are inviting" or where "everyone's expertise is valid" but i think there's something to spaces that are for experts but let beginners float around and observe. i think people learn a lot more that way.

at a lunch table at a CFAR reunion, honing in with @slatestarcodex on implications of PCT & got interrupted by staff worried about people feeling excluded 😒 then convo fell apart, turned meh (not to say we're PCT experts, but we were *relative* experts, having read the books)

@Meaningness's "Upgrade your cargo cult for the win" is very relevant here. People learn by watching & doing, and by participating situatedly: apprenticeship. metarationality.com/upgrade-your-c…

We're gonna see a lot more ability to do this in cultures shifting out of spiral-dynamics-green 🟢 into spiral-dynamics-yellow 🟡 ...where  • equal dignity & welcomeness &  • equal expertise & attention aren't even remotely confusable for each other. (+ expertise contextual)

Here's @ricvolpe speaking to appetite to hang out and watch me do what I do and take notes: (I'm not an expert relative to him in all dimensions, but I am on some.)

Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I hear you 🙃 Speaking personally, I genuinely feel stoked to learn more of how you think about facilitating groups and loosely navigating them towards doing useful things without being forceful and I feel like is a good occasion to learn more and do something useful

This is, btw, part of what's cool re Twitter—anyone can talk to anyone (all are welcome) but also, if you chime in with something useless on a given topic, you can be ignored easier than in person.

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

There is an art to replying and commenting, and probably like 60-70% of people I’ve seen on the internet fail at it. The important thing is not to speak your mind, but to “support” the OP. You can support them by disagreeing well & you can “mis-support” them by agreeing stupidly

This doesn't even require being an expert or having any particular status—you just need to be able to ask good questions, or otherwise help draw out people's thinking.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@replyallguy @gptbrooke do you feel drawn towards uplevelling your reply game? conversation, *especially* on twitter, isn't per se about "who" people want to talk to, but what sorts of conversations they want to have, and whether you know how to read & create invitations twitter.com/visakanv/statu…