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October 2021

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tweet as if people have read all of your previous tweets not always, but sometimes if people are missing the context, they can ask! then you can thread in those tweets or explain afresh

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

How often do you start a tweet feeling like you are writing something pretty awesome and interesting and by the time you have typed it out it just feels like basic common sense?

@ricvolpe sometimes but

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Obvious things are worth saying. Sometimes they're the things most worth saying.

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Replying to Artur Piszek @artpi ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Curious what's your IFTTT workflow for sending that tweet

@artpi

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Testing tweet from IFTTT (HT @haig) (ift.tt/2hZl3UJ) Context: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Artur Piszek @artpi ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Also congrats and you're welcome! Although we really should send you an alert when you're on HN or Reddit etc, not only based on traffic

@artpi huh, that would be neat, though ofc for some sites that'd be way too often the wordpress android app often doesn't load - some sort of jetpack error 🤷‍♀️

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

Every time you come across strategies to skip the small talk and get straight to the action I want you to replace ‘small ta…

Replying to Friend Tasshin @tasshinfogleman ·

@visakanv @m_ashcroft same with warmups! had a guest on the podcast who said this recently (Stanwood)

@tasshinfogleman @visakanv @m_ashcroft I mean isn't the point of a warm up "get muscles warm before doing things that body will do better if warm"? seems like a good name

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hot take: talking about the weather is a sacred act

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Every time you come across strategies to skip the small talk and get straight to the action I want you to replace ‘small talk’ with ‘foreplay’ and see how much sense that makes.

@m_ashcroft

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

hot take: talking about the weather is a sacred act

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Replying to shill 🔍 @acidshill ·

@Malcolm_Ocean idk man it’s not very hot rn where i am

@acidshill it's not that hot here, either—I was surprised to realize how quickly Vancouver summer ends

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"There will always be something true in any step. Any choice you make will always have true growth in it." ift.tt/3BdHD0M

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@tasshinfogleman figured it could be good to follow up and check in that your winter plans are coming along (btw @LordChisholm & @SarahAMcManus & I are aiming to hit Portugal this winter if all goes well. we don't have more specific plans than that yet)

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I used to listen to a lot of Game B podcasts, and kinda haven't lately... ...either the whole scene has uplevelled dramatically in the last year or I got super lucky when I decided to listen to this one first, because wow. Wanted to quote like every other line of this.

Ari @AriintheAir ·

Thanks @jgreenhall for a very insightful and fun conversation. Also, thanks to @peternlimberg for connecting me with all the epic guests that have so positively affected my life. soundcloud.com/ariintheair/jo…

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Replying to Inner Wilds @inner_wilds ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Hotter take: talking is a sacred act

@in_the_Temenos I would also agree with this, for sure shared meaning-making is the very essence of sacredness

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania @magicianbrain I think it's bad if this happens all the time but also bad if it happens never most of the time the water should just boringly come out of the tap such that you don't even think about it but sometimes you want to actually remember there's a whole system making that happen

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Replying to james, the giant peach @JimmyRis ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Theory about this: it’s guaranteed shared context

@JimmyRis Yeah! And you're combining your individual sense perceptions and contextual awarenesses into a larger co-perception of the environment.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@uncatherio For more on this thing about perspective, read Unflattening by @Nsousanis: a PhD thesis created as beautiful graphic art. amzn.to/2YikJ5V (Not coincidentally, I told @Conaw about it in Sept'18, in a convo where we talked about writing a book together) 2 relevant pages:

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@tato_tweets Having said that, I would be interested in something that's even further towards the frontier of human thinking than Jordan Hall (which could be a critique of his ideas or of Game B) so I guess feel free to send a link ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

When did you first think of yourself as an adult? What had to happen to make you think and feel this way?

@made_in_cosmos many stages/moments: - first year uni, being out at a party and realizing nobody not at the party knew where I was - buying my own {computer, furniture, etc} - getting paid decent money (in internships) - having a profitable business - choosing where to live

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tfw you search your streaming app for a favorite artist intending to listen to their album from a few months ago and they have a new collaboration with ANOTHER favorite artist (lookin at you cory wong & dirty loops)

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

practicing uncle @visakanv's "no-flinch" method x.com/visakanv/statu… welcomed the "wrong" note at 0:43 and made friends

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quoting @visakanv: wild thing is happening in my brain so i've been playing more guitar lately (like, this year vs last year), playing by ear, giving my mistakes space to breathe and correcting them gently, rather than flinching at them and i'm listening to some super-fast guitar solo rn and

@RichDecibels @visakanv oh wow, yeah, creates a whole dark question energy

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speculating part of the reason actors manage to bulk up or otherwise change body shape for their roles (in addition to personal trainers etc) is they're doing so to get *in character*, whereas most ppl trying to get fit *in their own lives* have some identity conflict with it

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

...wondering if I can practice this kind of "accept & accommodate all mistakes as unexpected guests" in other aspects of life

@RichDecibels reminded me of this (not sure if it'll be your vibe haha) youtube.com/watch?v=CGh3KD…

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Replying to nibras ꩜ @heynibras ·

Little sis is starting her new uni degree today. I wouldve traded *alot* for advice from tcot when i started university. Would like to give her that. What tips, advice or tricks would you share with her?

@nibrasibn don't pay for options you don't want figure out what you're getting for marginal units of grades, and only get as much grades as you need in order to do what you want longer writeup: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

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@nibrasibn finally, school's pressures can teach some bad thinking habits, so ideally start a business in parallel or do something else where your thinking has a feedback loop based on your own taste or what works, rather than what gets A+s. malcolmocean.com/2015/06/unlear…

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Replying to James Tiberius Stone @Evolving_Ego ·

Hypothesis: F(i, y) = F(i, x)*x/y Where F(i, x) is how long an interval i feels at age x. So a year at age 10 feels 5 times as long as it does at age 50.

@Evolving_Ego I had this hypothesis at like age 15 or something like that! This exact ratio. I like the retina analogy :)

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Thread · Why people signed up for the virtual barn-raising · 4 of 8 tweets

> It's fun to make things with people! Would like to see how this flavor of collaboration works > Loving the idea of supporting each other in building, being creative, defying set rules of community and competition.

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> I like the community aspect of coming together to support someone's project! I think it'll be fun, I'll learn, and make friends, especially in a somewhat "work" context

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> I’m very curious about the barn raising format (and serendipitous collaboration in general). I feel like I have been wasting so much of the value I have to add to the world and I believe this is the type of initiative that can help me start realizing some of it.

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> Love for Malcolm and Priya. Fun of collaborating with incredible people > I like the idea and like working with people > Malcolm said I could be useful and I'm out here casting about for ways to be useful, and I trust him

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I'm realizing that me extracting the core piece of this video into a QT-able unit was really valuable. Keeps resurfacing. A quest for you, if you want: think of a video clip you'd like to have around here, and pull out up to 2:20 into a tweet. No rare skills needed.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@visakanv Herbie Hancock describing a similar realization he had early on playing with Miles Davis, and "right in the middle of Miles Davis' solo, I played the wrong chord. Sounded like a big mistake! ...and Miles paused for a second... then he played some notes that made my chord right."

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Once you know the part of the video you're looking for, it's basically a 1 step process to get it. Go to ytcutter.com, put in the url, the start & end time, hit preview, hit download. Then make a new tweet, add some text for searchability & context, and go! 🚀

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

when i started paying attention to this i was shocked at how often i was suppressing laughter. there are so many times it feels like laughing would make me look insane basically (on the street and stuff but even around housemates). sometimes i let it out anyway and it feels great

quoting @HelloShreyas: The "humor cliff": The average four-year-old child laughs 300 times a day. By contrast, it takes more than two months for the average 40-year-old adult to laugh that many times.

@QiaochuYuan "I would argue that envy of childhood is the distinctive Squidwardian emotion" this clip of Spongebob & Mozart laughing insanely from ContraPoints' Envy video reminded me of this whole bit about suppressing laughter (the laughing is at the very end of the clip below)

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Can either tweet the tweet as its own tweet, or as a reply to someone else talking about a similar topic. Here's another one by me! (Unfortunately ytcutter.com wasn't working, so I downloaded the whole thing & cut it with ffmpeg 😑)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@QiaochuYuan "I would argue that envy of childhood is the distinctive Squidwardian emotion" this clip of Spongebob & Mozart laughing insanely from ContraPoints' Envy video reminded me of this whole bit about suppressing laughter (the laughing is at the very end of the clip below)

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Here's @AriintheAir with a great metaphor for visualizing how we can see farther and better together, and how emergent collective intelligence involves a dynamic balance of competition & collaboration. the paragliding gaggle hive mind: soundcloud.com/ariintheair/hi…

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continuing to feel the meta-value of pointing out moves that help the giant sensemaking serendipity organism digest everything that's happening

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm realizing that me extracting the core piece of this video into a QT-able unit was really valuable. Keeps resurfacing. A quest for you, if you want: think of a video clip you'd like to have around here, and pull out up to 2:20 into a tweet. No rare skills needed. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Vita @vitabenes ·

By embodying and spreading useful ideas, you change reality. You find an idea, you explore it, you share it, it helps some people. It's a kind of everyday impact.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

but even then I think the broad narrative is "people want to become entrepreneurs! it's passion!" I interviewed a whole bunch of entrepreneurs once, and while they did definitely have some of this ^, I think the "I can't fucking do this anymore" angle was much stronger

@visakanv yeah, this was true for me, although I got out pretty damn early. UWaterloo's co-op program gave me the chance to do a bunch of internships and I quickly learned I didn't like *jobs* and even before most of those internships, I had a goal to graduate with a profitable company

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@SeishinWrites hm, I've signed up but I'm not sure the code got applied! are you sure it's just that url, or is there another code it might be? I have a "enter referral code" link but it didn't take the "ioOe2BwUQib" from the end of the url

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move vast and shake things

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

Who linked me this? Idk what this is called but this is exactly the kind of dancing i would most love to do i am not being sarcastic or hyperbolic this looks like peak physical expression youtube.com/watch?v=1bUJeI…

@Aella_Girl @LordChisholm shared it in some groupchats recently, which is probably where you saw it

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Retweeted @gordonbrander

A fail? In *my* too-big-to? It's more likely than you think.

Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

i would simply not block the aisle when people are trying to get off the plane

@mechanical_monk I would simply not be traffic

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@SeishinWrites Awesome, worked great. The grocery stores I've found aren't super close but we might hit them up!

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@SeishinWrites Oh, I'm not seeing the "$5 for a big box" deals over here (which it sounds like what you were seeing) it's just a bunch of things 50% off.

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yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

“Treat everyone as if you respect them. It’s actually the same thing as respect.”

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

i just noticed that there is absolutely nothing stopping me from becoming ridiculously confident and keeping it that way. i might give it a try

@this_is_silvia sounds like fun

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

just used a papery straw at the local food court for the first time. unusable 2/3rds of the way through my drink. i cannot believe this thing passed any kind of sane quality control testing 🤔

@QiaochuYuan

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@leashless > "nobody had ever thought about it twice." I have had this lament about the design of most things, for many years. To the point where I find myself saying "almost nothing is actually designed."

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Thread · Discovering ENFP fits better than ENTx · 6 of 7 tweets

o shit, here I was thinking that MBTI types didn't resonate for me, but apparently the tests I just took were bad (they gave ENTx) @maskys_ guessed today I was an ENFP and this is extremely resonant! (the whole page, but particularly this excerpt) 16personalities.com/enfp-personali…

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I was at a tiny regional burning man event this past weekend and I found myself feeling a bit lost/purposeless until I ran into someone I'd met a few months ago and had some realtalk about where we see the world going, and his vision. Then we went back to the dancefloor! 🕺✨

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main thing that doesn't resonate is the people-pleasing elements. I feel like I'm by nature pretty willing to upset or bother people if I'm annoyed or if I feel right about something... and have had to learn not to because it gets in the way of what else I'm trying to do 😅

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re similarities & diffs between me & VV:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

So @Malcolm_Ocean & I just played this little impromptu game together where we each elaborated on the prompt “it’s my first day as mayor”. I think it’s fascinating how we seem to converge on the same ideas from different(?) angles. How would you characterise our differences?

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Visa, how does this connect with what you were saying about our Jungian cognitive functions?

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Replying to Danielle Fong 🔆 @DanielleFong ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @maskys_ me too

@DanielleFong @maskys_ are you also ennea7, or something else? I'm trying to figure out how it all relates.

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Replying to Anomalic @anonymiserly ·

@SoupOfToday traffic jammin'

@anonymiserly @SoupOfToday youtube.com/watch?v=5I14TK…

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Replying to Gorm @metaphorician ·

A fractal village layout that's been stuck in my mind since it was mentioned in a TED talk I watched in 2007. It makes complex organization really easy to understand, as every part is a map of the whole. I wonder if something similar can be done for an abstractly modular society.

@metaphorician whoa they have a site here where you can play with these fractals! csdt.org/culture/africa…

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Retweeted @goth600

shout out to the little monk in each of my cells that transcribes my DNA by candle light

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean doesn’t vibe right for me lol 😅 I recognise ENFPs quite easily in the wild, they’re a lot like me, and we aren’t different the way you & I are different I still think you’re likelier to be ENxJ, bc of your relatively more procedural style but again all models are wrong…

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@visakanv hmmm, currently looking at ENFJ ("Protagonist" or "Teacher") and there's some resonance there too although again my level of improv vs doing-what-I-said-I-would-do seems to match P more than J

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: ENFP folks often strike me as “they bring the whole circus with them”

@visakanv I feel like I'm a "bring the whole circus with me" kind of guy haha! I think I have less of that vibe on twitter than in-person, and maybe also less than I used to in some ways. Hmmm...

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean yea maybe you're kind of at the boundaries are both. IME, some people are searing manifestations of the archetypes (eg me as ENTP, Aella as INTP), whereas for other people, the model itself kind of just doesn't fit, the seams are wrong for them

@visakanv yeah, similar to how I'm a textbook enneagram 7 I just did the test on 16personalities.com, and got ENFP yeah, a lot of these dimensions could go either way. (maybe the assertive vs turbulent makes the difference? who knows lol)

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@visakanv I also noticed several answers that have changed a lot in the last years too—eg before learning BioEmotive, would not have said I could usually quickly tell how someone was feeling by looking at them, but turns out you can train this(!)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@made_in_cosmos @Malcolm_Ocean when I say "bring the circus with them" I don't mean like "put up the tent and plan the show", I mean, what ENFPs do is they translate the emotional images of their inner landscape into vivid external reality for others to inhabit. it's an aesthetic explosion from the heart out

@visakanv @made_in_cosmos ahhhh hm welp I think I'm concluding that I might as well mostly stick with the enneagram for understanding myself 😅 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Retweeted @visakanv

I think my top request for Twitter now might be a “disavow” feature, something like the ability to flag one’s own tweet as “e…

Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean They explicitly do not use the cognitive functions model which for lots of people who like mbti is their favourite part

@captain_mrs thanks. I care about this stuff fuck them for porting the model and having such great SEO and graphic design that they come out on top of google search results for eg "ENFP"

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Thread · Discovering ENFP fits better than ENTx · 1 of 7 tweets

Retweeted @visakanv

@Malcolm_Ocean arise ye, malcolm of ocean, designer of systems, raiser of barns, feral of agents, asker of what if it were go…

Retweeted @visakanv

anyway what I wanted to say with the original thought was I think each person is maximally powerful, productive, useful, etc…

Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @__justplaying @visakanv It might be informative to take this or a similiar function test based on specifically "what you used to find easier or harder to do when you were younger* You seem like someone who might have done enough self work to have refactored around your innate imbalances

@captain_mrs @__justplaying @visakanv my results were already pretty unclear (ENxx iirc) at age 16 when I first tried an MBTI test, so idk

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based thread

Pony lives in London once more • YKTN 🐺💄🍇 @coladaclan ·

Intentional communities are a headache to helm.

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Retweeted @aphercotropist

This is teleocentrism

Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what is it about? sounds spicy

@mechanical_monk idk about the specific incident that prompted it, but it's someone thinking aloud about the challenges of managing people in communities, and calling on people to show up with more sovereignty

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Replying to Prince Vogelfrei 🐦‍⬛ @PrinceVogel ·

I need your help Specifically I need really awesome diagrams of social/esoteric issues. The flowcharts of hermunetics. The social-cybernetics charts. Post them below

@PrinceVogel ohhhh shit I know a great example of this but I have forgotten the name. it was some play on "thought", like "thunk" or "thoughtworks" or something but not actually either of those they had a great chart on how public trust in institutions interplays with education

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@PrinceVogel literally found this by searching an old roam graph for "www.th" and scrolling past a bunch of theguardian, theglobeandmail, thestoa until I was like "WAIT! that's it!"

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5k followers! ...I stopped wanting more at about 4k 😅 but anyway, let's celebrate or whatever ✨ if you do this exercise & reply about it below, I'll help you ideate about how you might make this happen and with whom! 🚀

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

A tiny meditation invitation, if you'll pause here for a moment. Hi. Think of a dream you have. ☁️ A vision or project, that you care about but it's not happening. 😕 Got it? Okay. What parts of it do you not want to do? 😣 Now imagine someone else would LOVE to do that. 😍 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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pick your proof:

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Replying to kaiwan @gnrtvty ·

@Malcolm_Ocean proof's in the pudding

@gnrtvty considered this one imagining a srs bsns blockchain now with "proof of pudding" in their whitepaper 🤣

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I don't have strong opinions on what to do about gendered sports divisions & trans athletes. Since people with no strong opinions don't usually say anything, Twitter is disproportionately full of strong opinions. So I thought I'd say it. I don't really know. It seems complicated.

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I don't have strong opinions on what to do about gendered sports divisions & trans athletes. Since people with no strong opinions don't usually say anything, Twitter is disproportionately full of strong opinions. So I thought I'd say it. I don't really know. It seems complicated.

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is circling an improv game?

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spontaneity is contagious

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I'm revisiting Perceptual Control Theory and contrasting it with Predictive Processing and noting that PP seems to have an is/ought confusion baked in… Does PP use "prediction" for both a perception you're trying to control ("ought") and one you're just observing ("is")?

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Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

@Malcolm_Ocean My basic model is that human neurology has is/ought conflation something-like baked in at the neural level, which is a lot of why funky stuff can happen when people use non-is/ought-conflation-aware mental representations.

@diviacaroline huh. do you have particular comments about PCT/PP on that front? also @meditationstuff I feel like you'd dig Divia's comment here and maybe have some cool responses

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@danielgolliher, just heard about what you're up to via @Prigoose, and wanted to make sure you know about Geoffrey West's book Scale, which talks about superlinear benefits and sublinear costs of growing cities:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Corporations also scale sublinearly, in terms of productivity & revenue per capita. It asymptotes as you add more people. However! In cities, there's just a superlinear scaling function—more people means not just more income total but more income *per capita*.

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Replying to lisatomic @lisatomic5 ·

well, 5th grade is apparently how far we go before I get pulled into some "academic support team" meeting to tell me my son does not pay enough attention in class v interested in hearing from ppl who were smart and energetic boys and didn't quite fit in the school system

@lisatomic5 I switched to a boarding school with more challenging academics (IB diploma etc) at grade 9, and that was amazing for me. The teachers at the small-town school I grew up at were uhhh insecure about me being smarter than them 😅 non-representative example:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@prinxeMu I once spent the whole morning in the principal's office due to a pun. First class of the day, we were learning about "Cause And Effect". The teacher would name a cause, & students suggest potential effects. Teacher names an effect, students suggest possible causes.

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Retweeted @Austen

A mental model I stole from someone for thinking about products that have a service/human element to them: Does this get bette…

Replying to Jakeup @myhandle ·

@Malcolm_Ocean In other words, perception at t=0 is the prediction at t=0 but you also have prediction for t=1 which is different from what you'll actually perceive at t=1 and the time steps are just an abstraction because it's all a "rolling present".

@yashkaf okay I think I'm following... but what if you don't have a state you're controlling towards with respect to some perception? like you walk into a room and there's an object there you didn't actively expect but doesn't surprise you

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Replying to pseudokaṇāda ☀️ @hestmatematik ·

@reddy2go @visakanv @FPallopides @Malcolm_Ocean Yup. 😊

@hestmatematik @reddy2go @visakanv @FPallopides lots of great stuff on economics experiments and similar, in this interview: talks about the creation of Shenzhen in China, among other case studies youtube.com/watch?v=CHQi1H…

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Replying to Oshan Jarow @OshanJarow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Idk if PP would see 'just observing' & 'trying to control a perception' as dichotomous. Having said that, I think I'm missing what you mean by the ought - "perception you're trying to control". Curious what 'just observing' *is* from PP view. Just a no error prediction state?

@OshanJarow So I'm coming at this from a PCT frame, which is nearly isomorphic to PP but with a sort of figure-ground inversion. This article translates the terms into each other: slatestarcodex.com/2019/03/20/tra…

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@OshanJarow in a case like "I am going to drink a glass of water" PP says "I predict I will lift the glass" PCT says "my reference level for the glass is up" this is an ought, or controlling but if you're just looking at the glass, there's no controlling (aside from eye movement)

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@OshanJarow but my understanding is that PP originated as a model of perception itself (how to integrate top-down and bottom-up data) and so it *also* uses the word "prediction" to refer to the top-down models asserting themselves when you're just observing stuff which seems confused

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

Why do I have a list of tasks? This is ridiculous. I need a set of long-term goals I am constantly, dynamically orienting…

I identify as helpful twitter.com/abhayance/stat…

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Replying to @abhayance

@AbhayPrasanna @wm_dima

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I identify as helpful twitter.com/abhayance/stat…

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I did a blog post about the concept of Home, and how effective sharing of Home requires: - a concept of Fractal Home (perhaps implicit) - being able to get clear about what you care about - the capacity to find win-wins instead of compromises malcolmocean.com/2021/10/fracta…

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Retweeted @awakingsleep

I’ve been scalded a couple of times when people unused to this way of approaching the world misinterpret, but it’s still…

Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

@DarbraDawn @dancinghorse16 look i'm canadian, y'all are South to me

@MasterTimBlais @DarbraDawn @dancinghorse16 "i'm canadian, y'all are South to me" 🤣 😙👌

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Retweeted @Prigoose

i was born in the bay and i build businesses like a hippie...communally 🥰 if y'all want to help us "raise the barn", join us…

Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean 🙈 Twitter for good and empowering connections and conversations (which in some sense _is_ happening)

@ricvolpe what would you like to see happening more? can you imagine something that somebody might do that would really excite you to see? what energy are you not able to let flow yet because the context doesn't exist for it?

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@jasoncrawford the problem with most of these is that they are jokes. Here's one that isn't. youtube.com/watch?v=q1dLIq…

@RomeoStevens76 @jasoncrawford 100% YES. Only song that has caused me to cry while thinking about a grocery store. Fucking beautiful.

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Replying to Kifah (will eye ⏿ for storms 🌪️) @maskys_ ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean Problem: when relying on vibe, you can't validate your model (or your answer against it). & I think no one has actually put together an explicit guide on how to type someone and test your answer. Gimme 3hrs, will create a thread and put months of hyperfocus to good use

@maskys_ @visakanv huh neat, would be interested to see that!

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Replying to being seidoh @gworley3 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean 200 proof

@gworley3 I considered trying to add something like this 😅

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

I love the small farm, permaculture and localist Twitter, and I wholeheartedly agree that this lifestyle is much more aligned with our nature than big city life, but let’s admit it, cities aren’t going anywhere, and there’s so much more we can and should do to make them better.

@made_in_cosmos have you checked out Jordan Hall's Civium concept? aiming for a best-of-both-worlds system

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Cities are attractors because of superlinear real-productivity scaling. Now that we can do collaboration with anyone in the world, we can have a single global virtual city. Then way less need to pack tightly! = summary of @jgreenhall's Civium concept 🧵👇 youtube.com/watch?v=yXBAtd…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

dudes continually overlook that most women care about your vibes more than your facial symmetry. it’s how you move, how you talk, how you hold space

@visakanv It doesn't matter 'Bout the car I drive or what I wear around my neck [...] It doesn't matter 'Bout the clothes I wear, and where I go and why All that matters Is that you get hyped and we'll do it to you every time youtube.com/watch?v=TWZKw_…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

15. Bill Powers, principal of Powers Engineering and chairman of California Local Energy Advancing Renewables x.com/KNX1070/status…

quoting @knxnews: “They set it up like this is a historic event,” Bill Powers, a San Diego engineer who provides expert testimony on utility matters before the state’s regulators said. “This should not have triggered blackouts.” https://t.co/kt3yUCR7wd

@visakanv There's also Will Powers, creator of Perceptual Control Theory, which has everything to do with motivation (how motivation *actually* works though, not so much how we feel like it should work, which makes the willpower pun more ironic than appropriate)

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Okay I should have read this years ago, it fits in so well with Alexander Technique Even some similar language. I think PCT will really extend my understanding of AT and help communicate it in ways that will be more accessible. @Malcolm_Ocean

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

@Malcolm_Ocean One option that comes to my mind is a ring of closely-knit small towns tied together with a great transportation system. Kinda like London, but without the commute and the rush hour and with more things happening on the local level.

@made_in_cosmos > a ring of closely-knit small towns tied together with a great transportation system Mmmmmmmmmm yeah this sounds awesome.

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

when people say they don't want to be inundated with "negativity" what they mean is that they don't want to feel powerless. it's confusing terminology tho because in this sense the opposite of "negativity" is not "positivity," it's action

@QiaochuYuan

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"The opposite of war isn't peace—it's creation!"

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hmmm.... hmm. fragility. single points of failure.

GeorgeWilliamHerbert @GeorgeWHerbert ·

@QuinnyPig Reinterating my story from Hurricane Sandy. Was consulting at a small internet service company when Sandy hit. First projected landfall was right into DC / Northern Virginia. Projected eyewall track over all the us-east-1 datacenters I think. Our stuff was all there. 1/

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Retweeted @visakanv

finally an example of a meeting that could not have been an email

Replying to 🌞 𝕊𝕠𝕝𝕒𝕣 𝕄𝕠𝕟𝕜𝕖 🐵 @solarmonke ·

I have a lot of jokes for you. register your interest here for one (1) hand-crafted joke

@solarmonke

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tired: pay-it-back economies wired: pay-it-forward economies

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

@ben_mathes Quite tired. Thinking about taking a 30 day break from social media

@Conaw @ben_mathes great idea honestly would create a lot more space for deep work, not just in terms of time but mental/emotional space

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Replying to Friend Tasshin @tasshinfogleman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Conaw @ben_mathes 👍❤️

@tasshinfogleman @Conaw @ben_mathes the best critique is building something nobody else can build. you know that—you've done it before. that's your genius 🚿 🌱

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people will always give you the feedback you need but they won't always give it to you in ways you'll be able to hear in fact usually the feedback we most need is the feedback people are worst at giving us in ways we can hear for reasons that are obvious on reflection

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@EvadeHullu @visakanv haha true, good point

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Conaw > what energy are you not able to let flow yet because the context doesn't exist for it? - having a lot of informavore fun on a platform like that - curating content - taking socially interlinked notes - joining up threads of threads of multiple people - organising the efforts

@ricvolpe Mmm nice! Highly recommend checking out this video, which touches on a bunch of this:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"what if social media were good though" "the hope is that the serendipity engine becomes the heart ♥🫀 of the economy" — @jgreenhall @visakanv you're gonna love this youtube.com/watch?v=_5Mxqy…

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

I want to stop saying "Twitter friend". I want IRL and URL to blend together. I want to meet someone F2F and have a sense of what's been up for them by skimming their profile.

@ricvolpe I think "twitter friend" makes sense as a parallel to "college friend" or "friend from the gym"—there's still a context to things

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Replying to @hornydiscogirl

@holydiscogirl guessing part of you feels like it needs permission to be irritable, or something like that

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Replying to shill 🔍 @acidshill ·

love it when someone emails me a pdf, which i then have to print out, fill out with a pen, scan, and email back to them

@acidshill signatures are definitely secure authentication

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Here's @__drewface & me setting up the gather.town for the virtual barn-raising tomorrow! If you want to come help launch a business—coding, marketing, sales, testing, ideating, documentation, or anything else—click here to sign up: 🚀ajroberts0417.typeform.com/to/xyEW680E

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people will always give you the feedback you need but they won't always give it to you in ways you'll be able to hear in fact usually the feedback we most need is the feedback we're worst at hearing (given how ppl know how to say it) for reasons that are obvious on reflection

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF gotta listen differently too articulating someone's blindspot to them is kind of an inherently frustrating task, because in order to communicate with someone you need to bridge to their frame, but their frame has the blindspot you're trying to point at!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Afaict, this is basically true: > "Nobody knows what's wrong with themselves. Everyone else can see it right away." Two addenda: 1. This applies to groups too. Every group has a blindspot. 2. By default, nothing A says about how B's wrong will be comprehensible to B.

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I'm standing right in your blindspot waving to show you how you can't see it cmon dude

@RichDecibels where???

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Retweeted @provisionalidea

Yo so you know how a bunch of scientists and theorists have been saying for years that tools are an extension of the h…

Replying to Cortex Futura @cortexfutura ·

@beauhaan @MattSmithTweets @RoamResearch The steam engine was a miracle too, and yet here we are. Progress only happens when people are not satisfied with the status quo. Roam only exists because Conor wasn't happy with the status quo. Are we "there" yet? No, and we never will be.

@cortexfutura @beauhaan @MattSmithTweets @RoamResearch I sometimes like to look up at airplanes flying overhead and feel the amount of wonder I would feel if I were seeing spacecraft taking off 🤩 (Although I'm sure that could become boring too if it happened every day!)

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Retweeted @visakanv

non-naive trust dance (via @malcolm_ocean) malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…

Replying to murat 🍥 @mayfer ·

just sold my company, feeling sassy

@mayfer FYEAH! I know you said you wanted out of that, when we talked. congrats on cleaning it up.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

non-naive trust dance (via @malcolm_ocean) malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…

[1 more photo]

@visakanv finally answering your question 🌱

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean wait are you referring to some specific technical term re: "trust dance"

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Retweeted @visakanv

there is no such thing as a real job

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean this took significantly less prodding than Dream Mashup 😂 love to see it x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: a flourishing scene is a context where people unblock each other at a tremendous rate

@visakanv I don't think in this case you directly caused it, but it's still satisfying to get to answer your question months later! so it all helps :)

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@TurboRational I’m confused how racism and imperialism lead to patriarchy

@m_ashcroft @TurboRational definitely patriarchy has nothing to do with hierarchy

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean yea i mean it's just nice to generally see Stuff Getting Shipped More

@visakanv ahh, yeah yeah. should be hitting 1 blog post weekly for the next while, thanks to my showtimes (that I'm now beeminding) on which note, oh shit, gotta schedule one today! ...done. gonna turn this into a blog post:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"having is evidence of wanting" — @carolynelliott_ This is true, on net, but can easily form an Over-reified Revealed Preferences frame, in that it doesn't account for the emergent results of conflict! ...which is what's underneath most behavior, particularly confusing behavior

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @TurboRational apart from the archy

@m_ashcroft @TurboRational *shakes fist at archy, who is definitely the root of all problems*

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Replying to Raymond de Oliveira @RaymonddeOlive1 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is a bit dogmatic. How does the “always” limit you here? Notice the closure to the mystery of the present moment, which might very well show that you don’t need certain feedback. Maybe, maybe not. To not overcompensate with humility or conceit, one must assess spontaneously.

@RaymonddeOlive1 Mmm, yeah, I feel like we're on the same page here, so maybe it's just about my language. The thing I'm trying to point at is very much about the recognition that we don't by default know how to interpret incoming feedback.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Afaict, this is basically true: > "Nobody knows what's wrong with themselves. Everyone else can see it right away." Two addenda: 1. This applies to groups too. Every group has a blindspot. 2. By default, nothing A says about how B's wrong will be comprehensible to B.

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Thread · Why tarot makes sense to me and astrology doesn't

Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

@RomeoStevens76 it just doesn't feel like you get any insight from it personality tests are wobbly but at least they ask you questions about yourself and then put you in a category astrology feels like rolling a D12 and deciding to describe yourself on its terms

@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 tarot makes sense to me because it's kind of inherently immediately interactive & random and I've never heard anyone claim a causal connection it's like listening to your music library on shuffle and noticing what resonates and what memories & hopes & fears arise

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@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 I continue to think astrology is bad, in part because of a specific horrifying incident where at age 14 I listened to a detailed chart my astrologer uncle had done for me at birth (recorded to cassette) and was SO GLAD my parents hadn't taken it seriously because it so wasn't me.

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@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 So people can fuck right off with their "you need more than sun sign". Either there's a causal chain and it should all check out and be consistent, OR using more than sun sign is just getting more randomness, in which case why not just use tarot?

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RomeoStevens76 hahahaha you may not want to explore this thread's replies too deeply, it might be quite painful for you

@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 Yeah probably should gtfo, thanks for the reminder 😛

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

Just amplifying this incredible thread in case you haven’t seen it

Replying to murat 🍥 @mayfer ·

@Malcolm_Ocean thanks man!

@mayfer oh and what about a barn-raising for spiel? idk if that's quite what you need but I want to support you getting off the ground 🚀

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

who's got a business idea or prototype that needs a day of help from a dozen friends to tip it over into actuality? you could be the focal point of the first tcot virtual barn-raising! if you're nervous about putting your hand up, comment below for some encouragement twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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I've been using Brave search for a couple months now and I still haven't shaken the feeling that Google knows what I'm searching.

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Retweeted @literalbanana

School gets a bad rap but it’s actually really impressive - juvenile human brains are constantly learning from any avail…

Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Browser is Brave too, has been for a bit. The only google extension I have is google docs offline, which supposedly doesn't have permission to see my tabs etc, but it also sorta looks like it doesn't use any permissions at all so that's kinda suspicious.

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Replying to @AtrinAssa

@AtrinAssa @MatiosTV whoa, this is so much trippier with the rotation... is it a mandelbrot or something else?

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Retweeted @Evolving_Ego

Suppose a nation's economy requires only 50% of working age people to work jobs to produce everything that needs producin…

@davidfactorial interfaces are super important! this is worthy work

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Replying to Devin Balkind @DevinBalkind ·

@JaredJanes @RichDecibels Same same

@DevinBalkind @JaredJanes @RichDecibels came across this awhile later and thought you guys would enjoy this tweet I did a few months ago 😛

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the discourse: "are you woke, or right-wing?" me: "well, the important thing is that I've found a way to feel superior to both"

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Replying to Paul Crowley @ciphergoth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean The correct comparison to "woke" isn't "right-wing", it's "Trumpist". But I guess that's not how The Discourse sees it...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@ciphergoth (just saw this now I guess) I think that there could be a reasonable thing that "right-wing" points at that isn't just an identity, but the term seems so overloaded at this point that it's not *useful* as anything other than an identity pointer. meaningness.com/political-left…

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@ciphergoth also I'm in Canada so "Trumpist" would seem like a weird thing to say (not that people don't) I appreciate your input tho! I did think for awhile and try out a few different versions of what the sides should be, and I wasn't totally satisfied with any of them, incl "right-wing".

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somehow I missed this when it first came out fucking hilarious slatestarcodex.com/2019/11/04/sam…

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even if you were somehow 100% right about everything 1) you can't convince other people without listening & understanding how *they* see things 2) for anything to do with social reality, you can't even actually know you're right until you confer with others

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(I guess I would go a bit further and say that in some sense you have to confer with everybody to know that you're right in a global sense, not just right within the frame of the group you're in, with all of its blindspots)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Afaict, this is basically true: > "Nobody knows what's wrong with themselves. Everyone else can see it right away." Two addenda: 1. This applies to groups too. Every group has a blindspot. 2. By default, nothing A says about how B's wrong will be comprehensible to B.

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Although ofc if the matter you're concerned about mostly pertains to a given group, it could be pragmatically sufficient to confer just with the group members. I just always see the fractal complexities and in-the-limit-ness of things.

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Replying to Kifah (will eye ⏿ for storms 🌪️) @maskys_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv While writing I found this type spotting guide, which is somewhat dense but also friendlier to beginners mbti-notes.tumblr.com/spotting In my post I explain using a few more "dimensions" to verify the type. blog.maskys.com/how-to-type-mb…

@maskys_ @visakanv I got super confused before I realized that these graphics weren't in the same arrangement😅 I kinda resonate with all of them tbh! maybe I'm just perfectly balanced 😇

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Haters of #TweetsAboutThisTrend are fans too

Killer Of Minds @MindOfKillers ·

Ironic #TweetsAboutThisTrend are still #TweetsAboutThisTrend

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Replying to Jeffrey Ladish @JeffLadish ·

Who here is interested in making their social media experience absolutely amazing? I hear so much talk of "social media is destroying our attention and making us anxious" but little of "how do customize our use of this to create something incredible"

@JeffLadish @visakanv and a lot of the people who hang around him

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

TLDR: real social media has not yet been tried. the media part has been moderately solved. kinda. meh. 2/5 stars. we can do better. the social part is worse, 1/5 stars. Exciting: *tremendous* room for growth. We are still in the early days x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: I think most of the untapped wealth in the world is in the connections between people who do not yet know each other

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@JeffLadish @visakanv

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

here's the core thesis, with the analogy being "it took 30 years before Hendrix showed the world what you can really do with the electric guitar". I intend to do this with social media. I don't think anybody is using it properly, pushing it to its limits x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: when I meditate deeply and become absolutely still, it becomes clear to me that society has still not even really begun to understand the power and potential of social media

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Replying to henry 🌘 @hdevalence ·

@JeffLadish would be happy to hack on a successor to it with anyone who’s interested, i guess the first step would be to get the scratch code i had written up somewhere

@hdevalence @JeffLadish would love to support this maybe @davidfactorial would be interested in helping! (context 👇) twitter.com/davidfactorial…

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Retweeted @JeffLadish

Who here is interested in making their social media experience absolutely amazing? I hear so much talk of "social media is…

Replying to Jeffrey Ladish @JeffLadish ·

Who here is interested in making their social media experience absolutely amazing? I hear so much talk of "social media is destroying our attention and making us anxious" but little of "how do customize our use of this to create something incredible"

@JeffLadish I've made some userstyles & userscripts that improve twitter! Mostly to minimize distraction, so far. most of them aggregated here: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Problem 😡 I wanting to leave a tweet open for reference or to reply to the thread... but the (1) in the title or the red dot in the favicon makes me end up checking notifications. Solution 😎 this custom userscript I just wrote: gist.github.com/malcolmocean/9…

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

meditation teachers be like “i wish to spread the dharma for the benefit of all beings” yet none have ever attempted to make a movie, TV show, or even the most powerful known vessel of culture, a YA fantasy novel. curious 🤔

@QiaochuYuan reminded me of this 😬

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

somehow I missed this when it first came out fucking hilarious slatestarcodex.com/2019/11/04/sam…

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

meditation teachers be like “i wish to spread the dharma for the benefit of all beings” yet none have ever attempted to make a movie, TV show, or even the most powerful known vessel of culture, a YA fantasy novel. curious 🤔

@QiaochuYuan have you considered... youtube.com/watch?v=dHg50m…

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The hashtag in the tweet below is trending, and more than half of the tweets I see when I look at the hashtag are either people being like "🙄 so dumb #TweetsAboutThisTrend is trending" or jokes like the below. Which ofc is why it's still trending. Self-perpetuating patterns. t.co/Mfhrw0Xuq4

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Replying to murat 🍥 @mayfer ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i'm unclear on what that means but always good to build an initial community! i have a few more things to do before i can release v1.0, so after that might be a good time to get some help. can be paid too :)

@mayfer down to talk at some point if you want! on whatever levels of abstraction most need our collective attention

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Can't quite place why but this track by Bo Burnham seems *too good*. Nobody can make nihilistic despair so warm & beautiful... but he... did? 🧐 Paging @_charlescornell to investigate what secret techniques he's using. youtube.com/watch?v=1Rx_p3…

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Found an interesting sort-of-a-definition of hyperbolic discounting in my notes: = when your ideal "today" looks different from your ideal "every day"

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

TLDR: real social media has not yet been tried. the media part has been moderately solved. kinda. meh. 2/5 stars. we can do better. the social part is worse, 1/5 stars. Exciting: *tremendous* room for growth. We are still in the early days x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: I think most of the untapped wealth in the world is in the connections between people who do not yet know each other

@visakanv what about 10 star social media? uxdesign.cc/what-would-be-…

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@visakanv cc @ricvolpe ^ since you ideated about this

Ric @ricvolpe ·

🌟 How do we get to 5 stars social media? ✨ Let's imagine together x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: TLDR: real social media has not yet been tried. the media part has been moderately solved. kinda. meh. 2/5 stars. we can do better. the social part is worse, 1/5 stars. Exciting: *tremendous* room for growth. We are still in the early days https://t.co/CkQXnC15hi

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Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

“a lot of people try to get attention, but then they don’t know what to do once they get it, since they weren’t expecting to actually get it” -deep thought from my 9yo

@diviacaroline I noticed a couple years ago that I naturally get like N units of attention (some pretty large N) but I can only usefully use maybe like N×0.5-0.8 units at any given time... ...and started giving spare ones to @LordChisholm, who is great at deploying attention but never seeks it

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Thread · Ranting about microwave knobs and undesigned products

2nd episode of the What If It Were Good Tho? show now live. I don't know if anyone wants to hear 17 minutes of me ranting about why microwaves should have knobs, but if you do, it's here: youtube.com/watch?v=qy6BOQ…

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I'm not being self-deprecating with the previous comment—I make these videos primarily for my own catharsis, and any benefit gleaned by anyone else is bonus. Having said that! Someone apparently got a lot out of my previous one 😮

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It delights me enormously to have this outlet for my frustration with how things aren't designed. How afaict nobody even asks "what if it were good tho?" about most aspects of their products. Part of what I'm enjoying is the low production quality. One shot, no edits. No nada.

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Despite YouTube becoming a place where incredibly-well-produced, mixed, master, scripted or professionally-improvised content is now hosted... ...you can actually still just record a video of yourself ranting and upload it!

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Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets

@the_wilderless @_charlescornell my main guess as to wtf witchcraft going on is: - his voice is already good (tons of tight runs) and he's got amazing fx on it - he's doing some trippy tuplet stuff (eg on "like I give a shit" and "honey it already did") - the poetry is legit good poetry, on many levels

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@cjflog @MilanGriffes @michael_nielsen @tao_lin @QualiaRI @andzuck1 @algekalipso @johnsonmxe @webmasterdave (If you all know anyone who works towards this goal explicitly full-time you’re welcome to tag them here, we can assemble a little list)

@nickcammarata @cjflog @MilanGriffes @michael_nielsen @tao_lin @QualiaRI @andzuck1 @algekalipso @johnsonmxe @webmasterdave @RaymonddeOlive1 seems to be working on this stuff! talked to him a bunch today his main inspirations seem to be @HFreinacht & @QualiaRI I think you two would vibe!

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@the_wilderless @_charlescornell also I think he was channeling something cosmically ecstatic/heavenly when he sang it, which is part of the paradox of the whole thing, how he's singing with layers of despair and hope and fear and comfort, but he's ON. he's alive. he's plugged in.

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Thread · Reflections on a weekly day with nothing planned

I've kept up a weekly "day off" most weeks since April, and it's been such an amazing habit. It continues being pretty much what I wrote below: - no preplanned anything - no browser tabs to start the day Thread of reflections so far:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm taking a "day off" tomorrow. I don't yet know what that means except: - I've been avoiding intending or scheduling anything - I'm going to start the day with no browser tabs open (though I'm sorely tempted to have this be the sole open tab👇 ...mood!) twitter.com/AskYatharth/st…

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I've kind of tried to keep those 2 elements alive during the day too though, meaning: - I don't schedule anything later in the day, during the day - I try my best to decisively nuke browser tabs I'm not actively using

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If some event is particularly juicy and only happens that day, I might put it on my 2nd calendar (more of an "fyi") so that I know that the opportunity is there. But I make it clear for people not to assume I'll go.

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Sometimes, a day or two before my day off, I imagine what I might do that day, but I still have to find out. Saturday-me can delight in the present FEELING of how satisfying it might feel to spend the day finishing an old backburner project... but it's a fantasy, not a plan

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It's simultaneously kinda scary & profoundly liberating to tell people I'm not available on a given day not because I'm busy but because my schedule is completely empty and NOBODY (not even me) is allowed to fill it.

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People have been remarkably respectful of it though! I think that's in part because I

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Interesting linguistic thing: I notice that if I say "I'm going to take my nap now" (vs "*a* nap") it much more strongly implies that the nap already exists as an intention and the decision is just about the timing.

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This thread prompted by this VV tweet. My work is fun and my play is worthwhile, so I still don't feel like I need separation between work & leisure, or weekends/weekdays, but creating FREE TIME is huge.

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I haven’t really had a weekend since I left work in 2018. I don’t have boundaries between work and leisure, it’s mostly been a blur. I don’t know if it’s a weekend or weekday. I think this is both really good and really bad. Lol. I’m trying to learn to be more deliberate abt rest

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Would highly encourage all feral free agents to take a whole day off each week. If you can't socialize midweek though it's not unreasonable to refuse to plan things on the weekends, but I'd still recommend carving out 2-4h in which you do WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE DOING 🙃🥳🤓😴

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The value of starting the day without open browser tabs is that I "what I feel like doing" bubbles up from within, rather than being sort of an "oh, what about this?" prompted by external stimulation. Easy to bomp around at the whims of the environment all day by accident.

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An invitation, if you want one: 👉 pick a day on your calendar where you have few or no things scheduled already ⛔️ block it off entirely (from yourself & others) ✖️ call off any existing plans, & tell people who might have implicit expectations that you're taking the day off

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When that day comes, do whatever you feel like doing! ...in the context of the whole rest of your life, of course. Everything always is. But you can assess that directly in the moment in an in-person way.

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In the long run, I think we can move towards a world where approximately people are always doing what they feel like doing. Figuring out how to make that even remotely workable is a design problem tho; practicing bite-sized amounts of utter freedom helps.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what would we need in order for everyone to be able to do what they feel like doing, and for the result of all of those doings to be that everyone gets cared for in a way that everyone feels deeply satisfied with?

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> "Work [in the onerous sense] is whenever you’d rather be doing something else."

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

What made work work was having better ideas to do. x.com/AskYatharth/st…

quoting @AskYatharth: Amazing how I can turn anything into work. 💁‍♀️🤙 Calling my friends? 💼🤧 Feels like work. Got to get through it. Work is not the action you take. It is a state of mind. Work is whenever you’d rather be doing something else.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I haven’t really had a weekend since I left work in 2018. I don’t have boundaries between work and leisure, it’s mostly been a blur. I don’t know if it’s a weekend or weekday. I think this is both really good and really bad. Lol. I’m trying to learn to be more deliberate abt rest

@visakanv congrats sir you have prompted a thread:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've kept up a weekly "day off" most weeks since April, and it's been such an amazing habit. It continues being pretty much what I wrote below: - no preplanned anything - no browser tabs to start the day Thread of reflections so far: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Things are bad, they make me sad... What if it were good tho? Things are bad, they make me mad! What if it were good tho?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

ok I have managed to persuade my wife to record a "podcast" with me!!!! we are going to do it now before she changes her mind!! ask questions and we'll discuss them

@visakanv "what's something that you think most people following me on twitter/youtube/etc don't know, that's really obvious from your vantage point?" "(that you think is worth pointing out)"

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@visakanv I feel like I want to ask something more about her directly but I mostly know her in the context of you, not directly, sooooo I feel like I don't know where to start! And I'm reminding myself that that's okay.

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@visakanv Oh! I can do a neat meta move though, and run my cognition on your brain instead: ask her something you're nervous to ask her (in general or in the context of the podcast)

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

@Malcolm_Ocean You have missed your calling as a children’s’ entertainer

@utotranslucence it's never too late! also I definitely improvise random songs & raps (including beatboxing) to babies whenever someone leaves me with one for more than a few minutes

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean is the website still dead make it a 1 page static HTML page with links to your existing videos and tweets the super smart autofill magic graph stuff can come later

@visakanv "what if it existed at all tho?" ...okay, fine, fine, it exists at all now! so far just at malcolmocean.github.io/whatifitwerego…, but I think I have the domains configured properly and just need to wait for them to propagate, so I'm going to bed.

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Replying to Maia Bittner @maiab ·

@visakanv but I’m scared that I only have everything good I have in my life because of this tendency

@maiab @visakanv you might find this chapter insightful! docs.google.com/document/d/1HK…

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wildly wrong assumptions about *the world*, tbh

Byrne Hobart @ByrneHobart ·

Today we honor Christopher Columbus's discovery that you can raise funding based on some wildly wrong assumptions about your target market and then pivot to something totally different but actually viable a few months later.

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Replying to @startingfromnix

@startingfromnix @gptbrooke @Lan_Dao_ @adanguyenx hey I recognize some of these ladies!! 🤩

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Retweeted @waitbutwhy

😬 asleepthinking.com/blog/killing-t…

Replying to @BenAybar

@BenAybar agreed re every nice thing some bad things tho: - we have more alienation & less social connection - and we have possibly created some global problems that we won't be able to solve in time (all solutions create new problems, but only some solutions create worse problems)

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Replying to @J_Zane_Miller

@Joshua_Z_Miller the only thing I know about twin cities is it gets a hilarious pun shoutout in this Blue Man Group song I thought you might want to know if you'd rather not know, probably don't watch the video 😆 youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6Yf_…

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Retweeted @ne0liberal

China absolutely cannot stop making the US look badass in their propaganda

Replying to Gas Station Barbie @GasBarbie ·

Respond to this tweet and I'll hit you with a word I really like

@DarbraDawn hit me

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

internally conflicted about the optimal range of effort worth putting into preempting misunderstandings and/or working around misunderstanding-heavy territory

@visakanv disclaimer at the start of a book: any resemblance between meanings gleaned from this book and the original thoughts I had while writing it, is purely coincidental ...hm, no, that's not quite it

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Replying to @sashachapin

@sashachapin

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

slaving away down in the dopa-mines ⛏️

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Let's bring back the word Journeyman. What are you a Journeyman at? (Can be a professional skill or something more casual, for purposes of this.) I'd say I'm a journeyman at making a web app, but kinda *only* on my own 😅. Or at writing/blogging. Not amazing, but solid.

C.J. Casey @bovisrex ·

@fortelabs I've been trying to bring back the word Journeyman. That meant exactly that: someone you would trust doing something on their own in a professional manner. The only thing Masters could do was take on Apprentices.

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Replying to C.J. Casey @bovisrex ·

@fortelabs I've been trying to bring back the word Journeyman. That meant exactly that: someone you would trust doing something on their own in a professional manner. The only thing Masters could do was take on Apprentices.

@bovisrex @fortelabs I'll help with the bringing back!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Let's bring back the word Journeyman. What are you a Journeyman at? (Can be a professional skill or something more casual, for purposes of this.) I'd say I'm a journeyman at making a web app, but kinda *only* on my own 😅. Or at writing/blogging. Not amazing, but solid. twitter.com/bovisrex/statu…

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oh wow, hadn't noticed how tightly the "serendipity engine" phrase maps onto @visakanv's "engine of luck-creation" til just now no wonder I thought to tag him though

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

20 tweets in but I still have several other angles I can present here.😅 Here's one: social media, and publishing in general, is an engine of luck-creation. Montaigne said sth similar about writing 500 years ago. It's even more true now IMO x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: here is a bit of my summary of @pmarca's 2007 blogpost about James Austin's 4 kinds of luck, from his 1978 book Chase, Chance and Creativity 1. blind luck 2. add variability through tinkering 3. add discernment 3. add unique frame of reference https://t.co/VC2iCbu8kk

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Replying to Tristan Harris @tristanharris ·

Enjoyed going on @TheDailyShow with @TrevorNoah last week to talk about what Frances Haugen's testimony means… Let's make sure our north star isn't just "10% less toxic social media" but to achieve a digital democratic future where Technology + Democracy = Stronger Democracy

quoting @TheDailyShow: “It’s actually democracy plus technology equals a stronger democracy.” Center for Humane Technology co-founder @tristanharris busts the myth that the only options for responding to the current social media conundrum are either a hands-off approach or authoritarian control. https

@tristanharris @TheDailyShow @Trevornoah Yeah, we're looking at whole orders of magnitudes of improvements. I like what @visakanv says here:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

TLDR: real social media has not yet been tried. the media part has been moderately solved. kinda. meh. 2/5 stars. we can do better. the social part is worse, 1/5 stars. Exciting: *tremendous* room for growth. We are still in the early days x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: I think most of the untapped wealth in the world is in the connections between people who do not yet know each other

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

Dammit @Malcolm_Ocean now I’ve been dramatically singing “all eyes on me” to my cats all day. Why would you do this to me?

@the_wilderless cud b worse you could have my "what if it were good tho?" jingle stuck in your head instead

Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I'm walking around singing this dang earworm

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Not gonna list it here, but I'm gonna spend a few minutes thinking of and writing down a couple of people I think I'd like to meet, and some potential pathways towards connection.

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

You can meet effectively anybody in the world if you have internet access and you’re willing to spend 10 years working on it

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@visakanv *this last tweet _in the context of the entirety of who you are and what you're doing_

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I honestly think a smart general appliance company would do way better if they hired me to rant at them for 30 minutes at various stages of their design & prototyping process.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

now imagine we assemble a crew of 1,000 people who become progressively more skilled, and then trade with one another this is how we build a generative scene. real wealth gets created (lol i can never resist the opportunity to repeat this talking point)

[video]

@visakanv also developing the trust-dancing & feedback-giving skills needed to trade & collaborate with each other way smoother than most people realize is possible

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@davidfactorial @tasshinfogleman @this_is_silvia and to the extent that we have a large cluster of feral free agents who have this trust in each other, we can do things that random strangers can't do which forms the basis of the meta-company I've been envisioning, and ultimately a new economy (cc @m_ashcroft & @visakanv)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean do 100 appliance rants

@visakanv probably will, though might take me a decade since they're all prompted by an in-the-moment experience definitely feeling the pipeline opening up to posting more vids though like "oh yeah, this is a thing I do" even the tiny pieces of positive feedback are so encouraging

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@visakanv like this comment on my microwave knob vid: > Nice jingle. I really like the concept of what you're doing here. Please keep making these! so simple but it makes me go "okay, people actually like these! genuinely was not sure if this was watchable at ALL"

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@visakanv probably part of my "not sure if watchable" is that most people get 😬 and 🤚 when I rant like this in person probably the main diff with the video is that the viewer is empowered to shut me up, which is physically difficult in person when I'm in rant mode

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@visakanv ...the main way I used to know of that would shut me up was loud agreement, like "I KNOW, IT'S SO BAD, JFC" but the new way is for someone to be like "Malcolm you should record a video about this" and then I'm like 😃😎😊🤩

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@visakanv I'll probably do some for apps too, not just appliances but with apps it's a more complex thing because by default if it's simply bad I just don't use it (I kinda... don't use that many apps?) the fury with appliances I guess is that I BUY it and I OWN it and I HATE it

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is the quote-tweet viewer broken for others or just me? I keep getting "Nothing to see here — yet". Not always but maybe 70%+ of the time. I guess this'll be a good reminder to look over to the Twemex sidebar though!

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean you're overthinking it you just need to start the camera recording point at an object freestyle around the theme "what if this were good tho" the videos or rants themselves do not need to be "good", you can always unlist the bad ones afterwards

@visakanv hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm true

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@visakanv I once did something similar with a friend who was trained in Sacred Gifts and was trying to figure out wtf my deal was, just picking up objects in my room and firehosing design thoughts about every single one and she was like holy shit what how do you 😳

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

There's a question here of "how do you go about finding out what sorts of things are energy releasing for you?" There's no one answer to that. For me, I had a hunch, and a series of conversations (including one with a friend trained in Sacred Gifts) helped me get clarity.

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@visakanv I think that conversation is actually upstream of a lot of good shit you've seen from me on this topic the last couple years, including What If It Were Good Tho? (not directly, but clearly on an emotional level)

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Thread · Falling in the ocean while climbing rocks, and calibration · 4 of 6 tweets

I fell in the ocean this evening! Got soaked up to my armpits! Am home safe & sound 😊 I was trying to circumnavigate a "point" & the beach gradually turned to rocks turned to cliffs. Phone maybe fucked but I at least have this one pic I sent the friend I was on the phone with.

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I grew up climbing around on rocks like this (in NS, on the other coast) so the challenge had a flow state quality to it. I was in my element! 🌊 But the rocks got steeper to the point where I'd have needed *rock-climbing skills*, not sure-footedness, balance, & jumping skills.

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May cost me $400 to replace my phone & $​XX for earbud case (we'll see if they dry out ok) but it was worth it for the feeling of adventure. The only way to 100% ensure your favorite shirt never gets dirty is to never wear it. Not gonna be that guy.

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And I feel better calibrated from having actually made the other mistake—had basically never fallen in in decades of such climbing. I recall a thread recently about learning handstands via overcommitting; can't find it but found this old pith:

Tim Ferriss @tferriss ·

@sangeethperuri @merrelloutside Learn to roll 1st. Then overcommit handstand into a roll. Then walking on hands. Then, static. My 2 cents.

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@jonnym1ller which ofc you already commented but hmu with a scheduling link or something

Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Here's a belated invitation for a conversation on Curious Humans... some possible topics: - Right vs left brain theories - The art of sitting with questions - The philosophy behind Complice - Dream mashups... 🎙️🧠💭

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@AlecStapp Hmm I really don’t think we have, unless anyone can provide a source proving me wrong

@m_ashcroft @AlecStapp maybe FP is trying to meme it into existence

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

I literally just woke up with this stuck in my head. Powerful.

Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@Malcolm_Ocean There's a link to my SavvyCal waiting for you (sent Jul 28) in your DMs. Let's make it happen ;)

@jonnym1ller haha legit when I made that tweet in July I got like 10 requests all at once and was like 😳 and figured I'd just follow up gradually which I'm not doing!

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@m_ashcroft Yeah there comes a point where a podcast is unambiguously a reasonable strategy for this, and it has other benefits beside, I just wonder how many people are reaching for it sooner than they need to.

@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft that sounds right if someone messages me with a podcast that has almost no audience, it's sorta like "uhhh... sure? but we could also have just talked, probably?"

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @DRMacIver Yeah same, the podcast does add additional burden so need to get the sense of whether they would just chat Could even offer both - hey would love to chat, I’ve got a podcast and we could do it there or also would love to just hang on Zoom as you prefer

@m_ashcroft @DRMacIver ooh nice, that's good actually I could imagine also doing something like "could do a recorded zoom call and post a snippet of it or the whole thing if we feel like it, or just completely not" although the ambiguity there would trip *some* people up at least

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean idk why people keep overestimating how long these things take, lol. your guess here strikes me as almost the same as Dio's "1000 lattes" when it turns out it took 30 10 years → about 6-9 months maybe. you've already done 2, right? x.com/visakanv/statu…

@visakanv have done two, at a rate of one every 50 days so if I keep up the same rate, for 100 that's 5000 days, which I guess is a bit over a decade actually but as you say,

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean you're overthinking it you just need to start the camera recording point at an object freestyle around the theme "what if this were good tho" the videos or rants themselves do not need to be "good", you can always unlist the bad ones afterwards

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this has inspired in me a new lil song called "welcome to the day" which might make a good wake up song

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

I literally just woke up with this stuck in my head. Powerful.

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Things are bad, they make me sad... What if it were good tho? Things are bad, they make me mad! What if it were good tho? https://t.co/ZFD9OjGrpm

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can't record a good video of it yet because it's late (read: dark, tho also quiet & bedtime for me) and because my phone is still drying out from my adventure earlier today

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I fell in the ocean this evening! Got soaked up to my armpits! Am home safe & sound 😊 I was trying to circumnavigate a "point" & the beach gradually turned to rocks turned to cliffs. Phone maybe fucked but I at least have this one pic I sent the friend I was on the phone with.

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seems nuclear reactors thing isn't true… …which makes me wonder if FP is trying to meme it into existence by reporting positively on something that hasn't happened (yet!?) tired: fake news about bad things your enemies did 🙄 wired: fake news about events that'd be AWESOME 🤩

Alec Stapp @AlecStapp ·

“In the face of its escalating energy crisis, Britain has just announced a crash program to build over dozen new nuclear reactors by 2035.”

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what if we made fake news, but good tho?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

seems nuclear reactors thing isn't true… …which makes me wonder if FP is trying to meme it into existence by reporting positively on something that hasn't happened (yet!?) tired: fake news about bad things your enemies did 🙄 wired: fake news about events that'd be AWESOME 🤩 twitter.com/AlecStapp/stat…

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Thread · A role for helping people figure out what their thing is

reflecting on this is making me think it would be good to soon have at least one person in our motley crew who loves helping people figure out what they want to do what's self-energizing for them could be via the Sacred Gifts program (seems like a decent base) or whatever else!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@visakanv I once did something similar with a friend who was trained in Sacred Gifts and was trying to figure out wtf my deal was, just picking up objects in my room and firehosing design thoughts about every single one and she was like holy shit what how do you 😳 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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then when someone tweets something like this 👇 we refer them to that person!

Christopher Reighley @reighleyc ·

there is something to this I just need to figure out what skill I should have

quoting @visakanv: now imagine we assemble a crew of 1,000 people who become progressively more skilled, and then trade with one another this is how we build a generative scene. real wealth gets created (lol i can never resist the opportunity to repeat this talking point) https://t.co/vUbYJS1vVM

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that sales page doesn't sell me, but the experience I had with my friend did! one tough part is, idk how much of that is the SG training she got vs the fact that *she's* naturally gifted in & inclined toward this sort of thing already 🙃

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Anyway, as I wrote a year ago, this role is needed in the emerging distributed meta-team! We can all do a little bit of it, but if we find or create someone for whom it's *their* thing, then we can kick it up a notch!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

There's a question here of "how do you go about finding out what sorts of things are energy releasing for you?" There's no one answer to that. For me, I had a hunch, and a series of conversations (including one with a friend trained in Sacred Gifts) helped me get clarity.

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(I was talking about this "get a twitter friend to take Sacred Gifts" thing with @visakanv in DMs and he was like "I bet we could go a long way just by being intentional about helping people figure out what their thing is" and I'm like "but I want to solve it on the meta level!")

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I guess maybe the both-and version is this challenge, which someone could take on: ❤️‍🔥 "help 100 people figure out what their thing is" 💖 (you don't have to completely solve it lol, just make some headway) ...could this be your thing?

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If you want to do this in reverse, rather than starting with 100 people, you might start with "make 100 hundred-thing challenges" or "name 100 roles we need in the meta-team & how someone might get started"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I guess maybe the both-and version is this challenge, which someone could take on: ❤️‍🔥 "help 100 people figure out what their thing is" 💖 (you don't have to completely solve it lol, just make some headway) ...could this be your thing?

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Thread · Falling in the ocean while climbing rocks, and calibration · 2 of 6 tweets

Oh I was also pleased though unsurprised to experience how unpanicked I was when I fell in the water. There was a huge adrenaline rush (in part just because sudden coldwet ofc) but then pure clarity of purpose: "wade/swim to a place I can climb out" (10' around the cliff)

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Fascinating counterpoint to the story in this essay, where I thought I was gonna die no matter what and immediately accepted it. Today was: might die if don't do something, so do something! I see slightly more clearly why people like extreme sports. malcolmocean.com/2019/10/the-ch…

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yo @sashachapin & @QiaochuYuan, y'all had some tweets awhile back (related to Sasha's post about his life being changed by Tim Ferriss iirc?) about how you can just say things and change people's lives seemed relevant to something @LordChisholm was asking me about

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realizing the entire last 3 hours of my tweeting & DMing @visakanv & songwriting & ideating started with going onto twitter intending to find that but I hit the timeline before I hit search (unlike me, tbh) and whoooooooooosh not intentional, but totally meaningful stuff

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I am getting better at doing what I feel like and having that be deeply meaningful stuff, and it's awesome.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

it's funny when people see I built a productivity app and then they think I'll be on top of to-dos all GTD-style I just do what I feel like and Complice is a way to remind myself what I feel like

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Replying to nobu hibiki @nobu_hibiki ·

@MasterTimBlais the great procrastination tournament!

@nobu_hibiki @MasterTimBlais @alltom has you covered: alltom.github.io/todournament/

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what are exceptions to this? ♨️ building a perpetual motion machine is my go-to, but what else? (not talking about when someone "should interrupt" because who knows if that'll help, but situations where one can actually know something is impossible)

Phoebe Tickell @PhoebeTickell ·

The person who says “it cannot be done” should not interrupt the person doing it. 👏👏 says @indraadnan at @whatisemerging (quote by Confucius) - reminds me of all the amazing work happening on the ground in the UK today

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the most boring part of marketing for me is all the gruntwork of filling in all the descriptions and tags and so on. sometimes I will upload a video and in the description I will write something like "i do not care"

@visakanv nice my first "What If It Were Good Tho?" vid had no description at all until today when I went back & added a very short one

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Retweeted @RamonAlonsoJr

So in a way, the whole of the commercial economy, all that it is in the strawberry 🍓 sense, really could not buy the leg…

once you've found the others, help them find themselves

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

reflecting on this is making me think it would be good to soon have at least one person in our motley crew who loves helping people figure out what they want to do what's self-energizing for them could be via the Sacred Gifts program (seems like a decent base) or whatever else! twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @sashachapin @QiaochuYuan @LordChisholm I am always happy to attempt pointing out instructions to anyone who feels on the verge and wants the push.

@RomeoStevens76 @sashachapin @QiaochuYuan @LordChisholm I think it could be interesting for you & Eric to talk (are you in the bay? he's in Berkeley for the next few days) although the original connection is more like, Eric was wanting to feel a sense of the power of his own words to effect change in the world

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I still haven't gotten a satisfying answer to this question, which (leaving aside the implications etc) should be a pretty simple one about terminology unless the frame I'm using prohibits an answer, hm still interested though!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm revisiting Perceptual Control Theory and contrasting it with Predictive Processing and noting that PP seems to have an is/ought confusion baked in… Does PP use "prediction" for both a perception you're trying to control ("ought") and one you're just observing ("is")?

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF ahhh, Ponzi scheme is a great example of something on the edge of this I would say the non-prescriptive version of this is "you can't do the thing you're proposing *without* it being / turning into a Ponzi scheme" that's the level on which it's simply true

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Thread · Cross-pollinating online courses via recorded conversations

TL;DR of cross-pollination thing is to have a bunch of people running online courses etc have recorded conversations with each other about how their systems/practices/etc interrelate and support each other, then put those convos in the courses. high-bandwidth hyperlink

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

wrapping up a call with @m_ashcroft where we accidentally invented a whole new cross-pollination thing and it took negative amounts of effort it's happening: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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it's like a referral network except the fundamental unit isn't an affiliate link, it's a *conversation* the convo is valuable even if nobody clicks thru & we share a clear sense that we wouldn't want to do this with people who have high-pressure/coercive marketing/sales pages

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so for example, we're gonna have a conversation where we talk about resonances between his @m_ashcroft's Alexander Technique course (Expanding Awareness) and my open-ended goal-setting workshops (Goal-Crafting Intensives), and put that convo into each of our course content

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we might do 2 convos per link, one that sort of starts at GCI and moves towards AT, and the other goes in the other direction 🌉 so that it naturally meets people where they're starting, conceptually or in terms of their development/skillset not sure yet!

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& doesn't have to be just courses 🤔 - we could do it with apps (that have clear philosophies or perspectives, like complice.co/philosophy) - or we could do it with books! (although I'm not sure where the video would *go* with a book) so we gotchu vv

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

but I do have books, and I do have videos, and I do have podcasts, you can basically google me and chart your own path to figure out whatever it is you wanna learn from me I might put together some tidied up "suggested paths" and a tip jar maybe x.com/Coscorrodrift/…

quoting @Coscorrodrift: @visakanv if u were ever bread-wanty you could reframe it as "book that u pay for, but that is accessible for people who don't wanna read/for shit that's better told on video" not sure about ingroup mfs but most courses ive taken have been basically that, just some videos, not

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queering the {online course ↔ podcast} binary

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

TL;DR of cross-pollination thing is to have a bunch of people running online courses etc have recorded conversations with each other about how their systems/practices/etc interrelate and support each other, then put those convos in the courses. high-bandwidth hyperlink twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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invitation: 1. take the last tweet you wrote, or the first tweet in the last thread you wrote 2. quote tweet it 3. say something about it eg: - generalize it - share the thinking behind it - ask a question about it - express it more poetically (= Method of Levels + twitter)

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Replying to 🌱 John Ash 🌳 @speakerjohnash ·

What would vegans do if we discovered clear and unambiguous evidence that plants don't want to be eaten either?

@speakerjohnash fruit are definitely made to be eaten

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@sashintweets Idk if you can live healthily off only fruit, but the telos of most fruit IS TO BE EATEN. That's what it's for. Spreads the seeds. Anyone trying to think about this stuff who doesn't consider that is probably doing some weird other thing than trying to be ethical.

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa gotchu fam

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

TL;DR of cross-pollination thing is to have a bunch of people running online courses etc have recorded conversations with each other about how their systems/practices/etc interrelate and support each other, then put those convos in the courses. high-bandwidth hyperlink twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to mauv @ThatsMauvelous ·

you and i will never experience the world as someone with a v different personality experiences it a blunt example: i'm generally very calm. i'll never know what it's like to go through life as an excitable person. do you ever notice this and feel a sense of loss?

@ThatsMauvelous yes! this is one thing that's cool about living in a culture that records most of its conversations & shares them you get to find out what convos among your friends are like when you're not in them! (I talk about this a lil at the start of this convo) youtube.com/watch?v=lrYVkH…

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Replying to Imp @imperialauditor ·

I also feel the same way about astrology if I believed in it I'd being going wtf wtf how does it work can we crash a space raft into mercury and make it spin the other way and see what happens x.com/MasterTimBlais…

quoting @MasterTimBlais: question to the astrologists in the room ...are y'all serious or what? like, is this memes? are we on some naturalistic time-of-year-has-causal effects thing? or are you actually saying mercury in retrograde does things to human beings answer the poll but please elaborate

@imperialauditor so much resonance with this! in 2012 my then-gf said it was gravity, so I did the math & was like "no, an elephant standing right next to you would exert more gravity on you than even the moon" also noticed that the 12 signs have shifted in sky by ~10 days since created

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@imperialauditor "okay so what are the implications of this for the rest of the universe?" recent friend-of-friend had gotten excited about remote viewing and was like "I need to do more tests to prove to myself that it works" me: *find out HOW it works (FTFY) (he's a stats professor 😬)

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

My friend @SpencrGreenberg made a fantastic quiz based on a buttload of data where machine learning predicts what gender you are. I'm surprised it thought so strongly that I was male! programs.clearerthinking.org/gender_continu…

@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg lol if you take it way too literally, there's only one consistent answer to this question:

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

My friend @SpencrGreenberg made a fantastic quiz based on a buttload of data where machine learning predicts what gender you are. I'm surprised it thought so strongly that I was male! programs.clearerthinking.org/gender_continu…

@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg I'd be very curious how peoples' answers to these questions would differ depending on whether the test is framed as a gender test vs a generic personality test! @SpencrGreenberg you could test this 😮

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@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg > You might be interested to know that 3% of people said they felt "a moderate amount of pressure" to conform to their gender stereotype, 19% of people said they felt "a little pressure", and 78% said they felt "no pressure at all". you could see how this correlates with that

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Thread · Taking a gender continuum test and questioning survey categories

great case-study on why averagerianism is confused

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well! impressive I guess, in my case

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the generalization of questions into categories is interesting/sus. I answered that I disagreed with violence as a solution to problems but that I sometimes get urges to hurt ppl when angry, and this was summarized "Less Peaceful - more likely to use violence to solve problems"

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similarly, 50% of the contribution towards a "compassion" score is from "I would feel very sorry for an animal caught in a trap." this is a critique of whether the questions are meaningful, not a critique of the map-question-responses-to-gender stuff

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Replying to @InnerOvalCat

@InnerOvalCat @Aella_Girl yeah, sometimes you wouldn't be able to come back with a clear "70%", but if someone said 99% for something you knew was closer to 50/50, I can only assume you'd at least tell them they were off, & vv.

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😙👌

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Retweeted @thetracebrady

my thing is helping you find your thing i've already helped dozens (dozens!) or hundreds if you include speeches (which…

Replying to tracebrady @thetracebrady ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @sissiphys and i are playing this role but doing it in reverse (helping people find/create themselves, then find the others). hard to know who the others are without first knowing your self!

@thetracebrady @SissiPhys right, but you've found some specific others who you're helping with this, is I guess my point :P

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@RomeoStevens76 @Malcolm_Ocean perhaps also then you cannot "see" or "depict" this god precisely because he is the polar opposite of a perception

@meekaale @RomeoStevens76 oooooooooh I like that

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean It's a different take on is-ought. Oughts are simultaneously flowing weights down from the top and Is's are flowing up from the bottom. Each layer is trying to make the best prediction about what the next balance of weights will be.

@RomeoStevens76 this is helpful, thanks! but leaving the is-ought language aside, how does one distinguish in PP language between observing something vs manipulating it?

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TIL: English didn't have the word "prioritize" until 1972. (actually 6 years ago on this day, but I forgot it so I learned it again today when it came up in fb memories)

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Replying to tracebrady @thetracebrady ·

my thing is helping you find your thing i've already helped dozens (dozens!) or hundreds if you include speeches (which i don't) maybe i should start counting from scratch just for fun

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: I guess maybe the both-and version is this challenge, which someone could take on: ❤️‍🔥 "help 100 people figure out what their thing is" 💖 (you don't have to completely solve it lol, just make some headway) ...could this be your thing?

@thetracebrady do it :D we'll get you lots of people to talk to do you wanna do calls or chats or twitter-exchanges?

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Replying to Science Banana @literalbanana ·

@SpencrGreenberg @Malcolm_Ocean you did such a great job of it - half the time I'd worry I wasn't expressing my point but then you'd summarize my POV better than I could have

@literalbanana @SpencrGreenberg oh wonderful

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Replying to Southrop Frye @FryeSouthrop ·

@Malcolm_Ocean One of my Latin teaches once told me the ancient Greeks didn’t have a plural form of priority because if there are multiple priorities then they can’t really be the priority. That could be complete horsesh*t though

@FryeSouthrop whether the Greeks knew this or not, it's ontologically correct Complice goals each have one top priority and people sometimes ask for more and I'm like "sir, did you not see the sign" although there are still "priorities" plural in the sense of one per goal and across time

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@FryeSouthrop though once completed, a "priority" in Complice becomes a "milestone", so it actually kind of preserves the presentness of it

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Retweeted @metaflav

i’ve been using @CompliceGoals for a few weeks. very interesting to see how some goals evolve as i move towards them. a tr…

@thetracebrady huhhh also maybe we could make the calls  PWYW  + people short on cash could have the option to allocate up to $​X-Y of my meta-team fund towards you in support of you doing this work would want to sync with you 1-on-1 before committing to that tho

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groove fast and wake things

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Replying to Von Drake Institute Of Social Pathology @StupendousGrav1 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Curious how they decided which traits are "masculine" and which are "feminine".

@StupendousGrav1 they didn't decide, they just did a bunch of stats

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Replying to ricky @rickyflows ·

I'm thinking about dropping out of grad school. Covid eroded my science-in-academia idealism. And it seems clear that obliterating myself in the meatgrinder won't move any needles.

@rickyflows my take: leave now unless they're paying you to be there in which case completely stop working now and leave in 4-8mo (I'm not normally *quite* this assertive about it, but your description makes me feel like the choice is clear) see also benkuhn.net/grad/

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Retweeted @colingorrie

Underrated strategy for people who have too many interests: just work on whatever you feel like working on at the moment.…

@alt_tatsu perspective-taking

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean there's no canonical point of view for things to be reified from. From the perspective of a downstream node the nodes above and below it might as well be territory. that some activations are connected to motor pathways and not just other neurons isn't necessarily 'real' to them.

@RomeoStevens76 huh, it feels to me like they're very different types of experience, internally. like I love the clear simplicity of what you're saying here, where the other nodes are territory (although I've only see that in one direction so far) but ...<something>

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@RomeoStevens76 maybe another way to approach the Q would be "how would you talk about the difference between doing & nondoing in PP terms?"

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wow, this is great resonates with my sense of why I made a lifestyle business that would support my doing whatever I wanted to do, without needing to explain it to anyone

Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

Groucho's Law: never work on any project for which you can get funding.

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I guess another strategy would be to get funding for one project which is just a front for the actual project you're working on

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Replying to Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

So excited for this movie: youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjq…

@michael_nielsen Oh man if you love that movie, you'll love this one (different genre though) youtube.com/watch?v=WAG9Xn…

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Replying to @danielharan

@danielharan oh? what's the situation? ♥️

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Replying to ricky @rickyflows ·

@Malcolm_Ocean On my way out 🤠 x.com/rickyflows/sta…

quoting @rickyflows: I'm officially ABD (all but dropped-out). I talked to my advisor and will be sorting out paperwork in the next couple weeks Time to get a job

@rickyflows nice! if you've got a decent amount of runway, you might consider starting a business a small amount of runway can last longer than you might think, if you're frugal and the business starts making even a bit of money

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

One thing most ppl don't realize about starting a small biz: Say you have $16k and need $2k/mo to live on. That's 8mo runway. Say that after 3mo, biz makes $1k/mo. Not sustainable yet, but now you have 10mo runway! ((16-2*3)/(2-1)=10) Not-enough revenue is still real money 🤑

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Replying to @sashachapin

@sashachapin I love this whole improvised set, but in particular the moment the song "Go Back Home" first *drops*, at 7:55 minutes in, stokes my fires so beautifully. (start @ 0 or 7) The epicness is probably in part bc I know the song so can anticipate it so vividly. youtube.com/watch?v=sCNlt5…

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Replying to Danielle Fong 🔆 @DanielleFong ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @sashachapin thought it might have been this song, for a minute ;) youtu.be/YS2Ns_P0q6A apparently eric clapton was late for the set and walked right in at 3:36, it was just perfect

@DanielleFong @sashachapin boom, he nailed it what a neat coincidence

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"Technology should fade into the background and feel like nothing." @nothing's tagline ^ reminds me of @viennateng's song Landsailor, featuring the lines: 🎶 Headless and faceless Tireless and seamless behind these walls This is my progress When you don’t notice my lines at all

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Replying to @liminal_warmth

@liminal_warmth "comments about how some of it was good" does seem partially like hedging, but also legit important for: - perspective-taking with people who are still mostly in touch with the good parts - painting the full picture of how people were attracted to it 👇

Aella @Aella_Girl ·

The problem with cults is that almost all of the cult isn't bad. People don't join cults because they're stupid, they join because the cult provides them something immensely valuable, something that could be valuable to us too, something that heals and helps them. 1/

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Replying to @liminal_warmth

@liminal_warmth I've found this article on Sick Systems really helpful for understanding these dynamics as well. (It talks about busyness, tiredness, emotional investment, intermittent reward, and other factors that contribute to this sort of collective insanity cycle.) issendai.com/psychology/sic…

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Retweeted @nickcammarata

So much beauty would be added to the world if Google Maps added a scenic vs fast slider It would change incentives and…

Replying to Étienne @etiennefd ·

@m_ashcroft sorry you anglophones are all equally weird. why would anyone use "up" and "down" for about a million things that aren't related to altitude. how does any of "sign up" and "make up" and "cool down" and "slow down" make sense

@etiennefd @m_ashcroft "...shut up" (including a ♥️ because I don't actually want to shut you down here)

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Replying to Étienne @etiennefd ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Interesting. In French its equivalent “prioriser” is still criticized as an anglicism, although by now its usage is well established (at least in Quebec)

@etiennefd huh, yeah, "(Néologisme) (Anglicisme)"

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Retweeted @jonnym1ller

I’m feeling like I’m putting ‘negative effort’ into NSM course design currently, like a 🐢 in the slipstream

have you done any cool stuff recently that took negative effort? (ie it would have taken effort *not to do it*)

Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

I’m feeling like I’m putting ‘negative effort’ into NSM course design currently, like a 🐢 in the slipstream

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: wrapping up a call with @m_ashcroft where we accidentally invented a whole new cross-pollination thing and it took negative amounts of effort it's happening:

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

So much beauty would be added to the world if Google Maps added a scenic vs fast slider It would change incentives and could redesign entire towns

@nickcammarata I once spent a tired morning after a nighttime liaison stuck in rushhour traffic through silicon valley instead of having a scenic drive along the coast, because my GPS thought it would be 2 minutes faster (it wasn't even faster; no traffic data) one of my biggest regrets tbh

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@utotranslucence @RomeoStevens76 eg if you're like "we call a number 'perfect' iff its factors add up to the number itself" then you're like "prove there are any perfect numbers" then you can say "well check out 6: 1+2+3=6, so 6 is perfect" and you've proven perfect numbers exist without needing any other logic

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Replying to @flancian

@flancian @mechanical_monk guaranteed minimum income congrats monk

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa did this surprise you? this specific effect?

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Retweeted @visakanv

confidence is a very trippy concept to investigate, and part of the problem is that it gets too-easily smooshed into a singul…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Funnily this is the intersection of the two next books I intend to write: Unlearning Coercion, and Constructive ADHD Caveat: all of the following is my personal experience ADHD is very, very, very stubborn. You can’t “contain” it because it will outlast your executive function

@visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Your subconscious drives are reorganizing your mind to try new strategies til one works, and since they aren't conscious, they aren't constrained by: • what you think is okay • your own… belief… that you're not allowed to fuck around and find out?!? 🤯

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot vibing & meta-vibing

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@eigenrobot vibing largely

@m_ashcroft @eigenrobot viber at large

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Retweeted @QiaochuYuan

i don’t advertise this particularly loudly but fwiw i am willing to be both the math tutor and the psychologist (well, the…

Retweeted @AgnesCallard

Socrates: our souls are reincarnated through a series of tunnels in the earth Commentators: ok cool Socrates: Ordinary…

very excited to have this "negative effort" concept flow more feels like a different angle on non-doing although it's also different

Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

I’m feeling like I’m putting ‘negative effort’ into NSM course design currently, like a 🐢 in the slipstream

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: wrapping up a call with @m_ashcroft where we accidentally invented a whole new cross-pollination thing and it took negative amounts of effort it's happening:

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Retweeted @myceliummage

have you considered your presence amidst us is a gift for which we are grateful (so very)

Retweeted @chasemerlin

Finally checked out @CompliceGoals and really like it. Complice is a goal management app that starts from higher-order go…

Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

it’s a motivational technique where you do stuff by imagining alexander the great doing that stuff, but great

[video]

quoting @rickbenger: What is Alexander Technique? wrong answers only

@QiaochuYuan "what if it were great tho?" 👑

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I actually wrote for the Neopian Times and they gave me a trophy for it. I must have been like... 10 years old, maybe 11 x.com/davidfactorial…

@visakanv neopets was where I learned html <3

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Retweeted @RomeoStevens76

Your shadow stuff may be “deeper” in the sense of “more buried” but that doesn’t make it “more profound” -@Malcolm_Ocea…

Replying to @DesidErratum

@DesidErratum @RomeoStevens76 Yeah what? Context? Am very curious about this.

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

... 🧐🤔🤨

@SarahAMcManus Sarah to me just now: "I have a terrible idea!" me: "...let's do it!" Sarah: "thrill's should make a thing that looks like a tide pod but is safe to eat (and tastes like soap)

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Retweeted @RomeoStevens76

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania I'm a really affectionate dude 🤷‍♀️

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania @QiaochuYuan Yeah parts of my extended family are well-adjusted "ordinary" people, working legible jobs & raising kids, and watching the adults spat at the dinner table (siblings or spouses) is awful. Immature bickering, whining, fussing, snapping. Their lives are fine but also deeply bleh.

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania @QiaochuYuan Is there an existence proof for a person that is actually flourishing?

RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@utotranslucence Is there an existence proof for a high demand group that is actually good? The closest I can imagine is a monastery that actually has a good track record for people waking up but I don't personally have knowledge of any such.

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@temeton_blue @quotidiania legit, I grew up climbing into my parents' waterbed on weekend mornings to snuggle with them

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@quotidiania I'm a really affectionate dude 🤷‍♀️

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@brother_nin likewise! it seems possible that such a group would sort of have to be very illegible or invisible otherwise 100× would want to join it and it would have a lot of trouble managing the demand without going nuts (either by excluding or including too many people)

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@quotidiania @jessicamalonso @temeton_blue to the extent that you can get clear on that in yourself, in a way that you can access in the moment, you might be able to simultaneously let her know you're having a reaction while also clearly communicating that in some sense you just want to be held/heard & for that to be ok

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@quotidiania @jessicamalonso @temeton_blue it's really hard to do though! & I hated feeling like I had to take it on ♥️ @SarahAMcManus might be able to share some writing she did months ago sorting out some frames that were adding extra difficulty to challenging experiences of me being overwhelmed & baby-esque at times

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Replying to Командир Гиперкуба @AndBeyond_N ·

@The_Lagrangian Try picture-searching for "white woman" with google.com and with yandex.ru (russian search engine). Compare

@AndBeyond_N @The_Lagrangian huh literally all the suggestions under the yandex one seem like awful porn genres tho😬 (I guess that's who actually ever searches that phrase in practice)

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Replying to @huggingpuppy

@KasraKaley @SlaapMe seems fine I guess, not really sure what it's supposed to do? could use more puppy, even just an emoji in the title

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Thread · Explaining the good corner of Twitter to people who don't use it · 5 of 6 tweets

Met some folks in a park today, and said "so yeah, hit me up on facebook or twitter" and got a response like "twitter?! 😲" (not the first time this has happened) and I explained that there's a small but growing scene that's actually good, and she seemed curious to check it out!

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I described people supporting each other's "do 100 things" project, like "oh wow great drawing, I'd buy a print of that" and various other elements of the vibe.

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I said "we talk about what makes for good community, too" which she appreciated, and I listed things like "not dunking on bad takes because it just signal boosts them"... instead we

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

focus your time and energy on what you want to see more of

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Many people who don't use twitter still cannot *imagine* that we're having this much fun & learning & connection here. They react like I'm telling them I'm throwing a chill party in a warzone. More disbelief than judgment or concern, just like "what?"

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Curious who else has gotten a reaction like this when they talk about strangely earnest twitter in person!

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The more of me I bring, the more of me there is. The more of you you bring, the more of you there is. The more of you you bring, the more of me I feel invited to bring. The more of me I bring, the more of you you feel invited to bring. It's gonna be one hell of a party.

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So far 4 friends saying they've each had multiple instances of people responding like this. Those people won't *all* want to join us here, but gradually more will... a tipping point I hadn't been tracking(!?)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Many people who don't use twitter still cannot *imagine* that we're having this much fun & learning & connection here. They react like I'm telling them I'm throwing a chill party in a warzone. More disbelief than judgment or concern, just like "what?"

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Thread · Explaining the good corner of Twitter to people who don't use it · 1 of 6 tweets

every moment is full stack metaⁿ-level   ⋮ process-level   ⋮ object-level

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I wanted to be friends with Malcolm because I saw that he was asking himself interesting questions, and striving to answer them. That’s my jam, too. I figured that if I gave him interesting questions, he would give me interesting questions. We’re 5 years in. Wait till you see 50

@visakanv reminds me of this lovely comic which I'd gasp with shock & excitement if you haven't read yet kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a…

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follow people you want to talk to and talk to them

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Retweeted @ZaymonTheUnwise

This is gorgeous, I often struggle with bringing my full self into situations despite it almost always being a very po…

Replying to zaymon 🪬 @zaymonantonio ·

This is gorgeous, I often struggle with bringing my full self into situations despite it almost always being a very positive experience. I like the lens that bringing your full self is a license and invitation for others to do the same

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: The more of me I bring, the more of me there is. The more of you you bring, the more of you there is. The more of you you bring, the more of me I feel invited to bring. The more of me I bring, the more of you you feel invited to bring. It's gonna be one hell of a party.

@ZaymonTheUnwise welcome! also welcome to your fears & struggles they are also invited! see if you can gently find out what their experiences are and bring those in contact with the experiences you've had of it working well

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Wow, great piece on improvisation by @daemonhugger! some major right hemisphere stuff going on here for sure the article: dudejustloveyourself.com

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follow people you want to talk with and talk with them

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I wanted to be friends with Malcolm because I saw that he was asking himself interesting questions, and striving to answer them. That’s my jam, too. I figured that if I gave him interesting questions, he would give me interesting questions. We’re 5 years in. Wait till you see 50

@visakanv that is one of the main things about my blog it's entirely composed of sincere questions and sincere answers

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@metaLulie I have no idea. I am profoundly incapable of producing almost any work that doesn't feel original. I've had lots of inspirations, ofc, and I cite them, but I can't write a book summary for the life of me. Almost-exceptions are 2 tweetstorms—this one: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @visakanv

was asked a interesting question by @Malcolm_Ocean – what was it that drew me to him all the way back in 2015, that made me r…

Replying to Erik Torenberg @eriktorenberg ·

Tfw you chat with someone so ambitious you realize you could think bigger. Like an order of magnitude bigger.

@eriktorenberg

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Just got off a call with @Conaw and I just want to say: That guy was already in my head as "one of the most visionary people I know" After this call my sense of the depth & breadth of his vision has increased by at least an order of magnitude, maybe two.

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Retweeted @eriktorenberg

Tfw you chat with someone so ambitious you realize you could think bigger. Like an order of magnitude bigger.

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

sometimes I get people who reach out hoping to become friends, and they also ask me, how come you’re so fucking crazy? here’s the thing: if you were fucking crazy too, you’d understand. and we would become friends as a consequence, neither of us would have much say in the matter

quoting @visakanv: A comment on my YouTube channel - I’ll write a proper reply when I get to my computer, maybe even make a whole video about it - but basically “crazy amount of effort” is what it takes to get to anywhere worth going. If you saw my twitter at 800 followers you’d say the same https:

@visakanv more ppl need to find their negative effort things

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I want to find the things that are worth doing & where it'd be harder   for me NOT to do them than to do them.

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"I haven't met anybody who even imagines the need for such a group." MOOD. (@AskYatharth I feel this fairly often, related to the outer reaches of my vision we were talking about today)

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Here is Marshall McLuhan dreaming to Ezra Pound of bringing 10 Erasmuses together. Unfortunately for them, they did not have Twitter. Fortunately for us, we do. We will honor our predecessors by fulfilling their dreams x.com/chowcollection…

quoting @chowcollection: .@visakanv "Problem: How to achieve a milieu. How to get 10 competent people together in one city. And keep them there to talk. To think. To write. I haven't met anybody who even imagines the need for such a group." - Marshall McLuhan https://t.co/povfQaYA9i

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I don't think I'm better than anybody else, I am just some dude. a person. but I do think I have been weirdly intoxicated in ways that other people are not. I was radicalized by books from a very young age and relatedly I have a sort of "world consciousness" that's not common

@visakanv I've gotta crosslink this if someone wants a rabbit-hole:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the way out is to stop comparing yourself to your friends, and compare yourself to legends. stop trying to impress your friends and focus on impressing God. the person who is working to honor God has a "confidence" that seems inhuman. and it is x.com/visakanv/statu…

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Retweeted @visakanv

Today's personal is tomorrow's political, next week's fashionable, next month's profitable, next year's passé …

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

^ one of my all time best and most underappreciated tweets

@visakanv I love to see it

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

to make it explicit, consider this outer tweet 👆 a normalization of this mindcity principle: "if you think of an old tweet of yours that you think is undervalued, go ahead and amplify it again without any external prompting" twitter.com/LordChisholm/s…

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Replying to @groundedsage

@groundedSAGE

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@davidfactorial this is GREAT, wow hi, you feel alive and present (particularly in these tweets but also in general) and I am very glad you're hanging out and doing stuff and talking to people anyway yeah that's a thing that happens (I've felt it too) and it'll probably untangle itself

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I haven't met many people who look at the designed world and imagine the need for it to be good tho.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"I haven't met anybody who even imagines the need for such a group." MOOD. (@AskYatharth I feel this fairly often, related to the outer reaches of my vision we were talking about today) twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Thread · Self-paced co-learning and the freedom to talk back to the teacher · 1 of 9 tweets

Was feeling vaguely aware of this thread today when on a private instructional call (combined theory & practice) I proposed that instead of the instructor presenting the slides, the learners did (which made the already-known fact that we already had a lot of background v obvious)

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@visakanv I don’t know if it’s just my aging that coincided with this development but I have a feeling that my ability to enjoy music dwindled with the rise of omnipresent streaming

@meekaale @visakanv huh, I've found sometimes streaming does this to me, but then I fall in love with something again have you considered getting an ipod shuffle 2gen or 4gen and loading some fav songs onto it? (can use without itunes using a lil script)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@dispirateparts @mesolude iPod shuffle is the way to go: complete surrender. sometimes I don't even know what a song is when it first starts, if it's one I haven't heard in a long time or often!

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minimum viable flocking rules for having a good time on twitter, as a crowdsourced QT thread How to Play: reply to the last tweet in the thread with a failure mode someone might have if they only followed the rules listed so far, & QT a rule that would avert that trap

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the last line of this is the funniest with good reply game you brighten up the room you're in with bad reply game you brighten up every room from which you are absent

quoting @visakanv: Benjamin Franklin's rules of bad reply game, 1750 https://t.co/0erCPaBQU5

@visakanv wowwwwwww

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Replying to I take you seriously @replyallguy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @gptbrooke I think the problem is that most of them don't want to talk to me

@replyallguy @gptbrooke do you feel drawn towards uplevelling your reply game? conversation, *especially* on twitter, isn't per se about "who" people want to talk to, but what sorts of conversations they want to have, and whether you know how to read & create invitations

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Every “utterance” (status, tweet, whatever) is a bit of an invitation, a bit of a proposal. “Let’s play this game”. When strangers read the proposal accurately, and support the game, a shared understanding develops. You can make friends this way.

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Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@replyallguy @gptbrooke do you feel drawn towards uplevelling your reply game? conversation, *especially* on twitter, i…

Thread · Choosing a MIDI keyboard with built-in speakers · 1 of 9 tweets

I am intending to buy a midi keyboard 🎹 help me pick one 😀 (or tag someone who can?) desiderata 🤔 - pitch-bend thingy - probably 61-88 keys - has built-in speakers - works with @bitwig - ??? (ask me Qs to help me figure out what I care about!)

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Replying to I take you seriously @replyallguy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @gptbrooke I do. But regardless of my game, I don't think Obama is going to respond to me.

@replyallguy @gptbrooke ...correct! I just took a min & scrolled through his last 6mo of Obama's "tweets with replies" ctrl+f-ing "replying to" and literally none of them are replies—to anyone. so he's clearly not here to talk with people! still not about who you are, but about what game he's playing

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importantly, you have to follow other people *who are also here to talk with people* if you want to talk with people some people only want to broadcast & that's fine! we can still remix their tweets if we want, but otherwise they're not even *on twitter*

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@replyallguy @gptbrooke ...correct! I just took a min & scrolled through his last 6mo of Obama's "tweets with replies" ctrl+f-ing "replying to" and literally none of them are replies—to anyone. so he's clearly not here to talk with people! still not about who you are, but about what game he's playing

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Retweeted @SteveStuWill

This is cool: A diagram showing where all the energy we use comes from, tracing it back ultimately to the Big Bang 🤯 http…

Replying to I take you seriously @replyallguy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @gptbrooke yep, absolutely. many famous people on here are here to say things and interact with other famous people. for them, my replies won't enter their game regardless of content. they are not playing a game in which my replies are welcomed.

@replyallguy @gptbrooke so yeah, not those people! most of them aren't even playing a reply game at all I don't even consider them "on twitter" in the sense in which I am, tbh but there are famous people who do reply to random people—Elon Musk comes to mind, but many, many more

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

importantly, you have to follow other people *who are also here to talk with people* if you want to talk with people some people only want to broadcast & that's fine! we can still remix their tweets if we want, but otherwise they're not even *on twitter* twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Daemonic is Gendlinmaxxing 🤑 @daemonhugger ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This looks great! Thanks for the rec Malcolm. Makes me wonder, too… are you familiar with ‘Thinking In Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation’? amazon.com/Thinking-Jazz-…

@daemonhugger I know nothing about it but it sounds great

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@replyallguy @gptbrooke like you might as well be complaining that you can't talk to Famous Person X because they don't have a twitter account at all like.... okay? sure? but that's not about you 🤷‍♀️ who's *here* that you might have a good conversation with?

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Replying to Tiago Forte @fortelabs ·

What’s the most unconventional, boldest way we could spend $100k to make the launch of my book in 8 months as successful as possible?

@fortelabs yeah incentivizing preorders is one of the best way to hit the amazon top list

andrew chen @andrewchen ·

I'm working on figuring out how to incentivize people/companies to preorder my book... What are things that y'all might want? 1) signed copies? 2) drop into a company for a zoom talk? 3) invite to private brunch? 4) 1:1 lunch? ... what else? Might make tiers based on # orders

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@fortelabs and then (I forget where I heard this) but getting people to ask about & buy your book at the handful of bookstores NYT uses for their bestseller list can make an impact on that front

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@fortelabs I once preordered of Zero To One in exchange for getting mailed a pre-print review version—immediately! (which I liked the cover of better tbh, and it included an image that got cut from the main version because they couldn't secure the rights) (signed? I forget)

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Replying to andrew chen @andrewchen ·

I'm working on figuring out how to incentivize people/companies to preorder my book... What are things that y'all might want? 1) signed copies? 2) drop into a company for a zoom talk? 3) invite to private brunch? 4) 1:1 lunch? ... what else? Might make tiers based on # orders

@andrewchen early access to the book worked for me once:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@fortelabs I once preordered of Zero To One in exchange for getting mailed a pre-print review version—immediately! (which I liked the cover of better tbh, and it included an image that got cut from the main version because they couldn't secure the rights) (signed? I forget)

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Thread · Unfollowing to keep Twitter a conversation web, not void-shouting · 7 of 8 tweets

unfollow people you don't want to talk with

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it's not enough (imx) to follow people you want to talk with and talk with them if you're *also* following a bunch of accounts that - annoy you - NEWS at you - are just self-promotion because it makes the whole room feel like void-shouting, not convo-web

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what factors make twitter feel more like a giant web of conversation as distinct from just a bunch of people shouting into the void?

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this tweet of mine from Jan 2018 points at an important phase in this whole scenius coming together I'd been following 1200+ people from early years on twitter, and pared that back to <400

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@wgalyean Nice! I'm slowly curating my follow list to be a cluster of people that has interesting conversations about mostly-not-politics. I think I need to aggressively unfollow a bunch more people to really get there though...

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I used to follow a lot of ppl I thought were cool, but either I never had anything to say to them in response to what they were tweeting, or I realized I wanted to *impress* them more than talk with them (you know how a room goes weird if a very high-status person walks in?)

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so it took a bit of internal clarifying, but it's consistently felt good to unfollow people I don't enjoy talking with, even if I sorta feel like I should follow them and I can always follow them again later

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Replying to Daemonic is Gendlinmaxxing 🤑 @daemonhugger ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @metaLulie I liked this and then realized how ironic and hypocritical that was of me 🤣

@daemonhugger @metaLulie "0 Following" 🤣 Well, you don't have to use the built-in twitter "follow" feature. You're clearly somehow playing a more advanced game, & still finding convos you want. OH! here's the advanced thing:  don't follow people you *don't* want to talk with!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

unfollow people you don't want to talk with

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Thread · Unfollowing to keep Twitter a conversation web, not void-shouting · 1 of 8 tweets

this thread inspired by seeing that @daemonhugger is following nobody, and realizing that it felt to me like he was succeeding at what I meant when I said "follow people you want to talk with and talk with them"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@daemonhugger @metaLulie "0 Following" 🤣 Well, you don't have to use the built-in twitter "follow" feature. You're clearly somehow playing a more advanced game, & still finding convos you want. OH! here's the advanced thing:  don't follow people you *don't* want to talk with! twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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talking with @thetracebrady and he said "I was thinking about the concept of a perpetual serendipity machine" and I'm like "have you haeard of @jgreenhall's "serendipity engine" concept?" and he was like "WAT plz send" 20min video:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"what if social media were good though" "the hope is that the serendipity engine becomes the heart ♥🫀 of the economy" — @jgreenhall @visakanv you're gonna love this youtube.com/watch?v=_5Mxqy…

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realized on a call with @thetracebrady that I could have explicitly pointed at this with a "if you think you might be good at helping people figure this out, lmk and I'll support you in that!" so close, but didn't quite do it

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

There's a question here of "how do you go about finding out what sorts of things are energy releasing for you?" There's no one answer to that. For me, I had a hunch, and a series of conversations (including one with a friend trained in Sacred Gifts) helped me get clarity.

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but a year later, found my way back anyway!

tracebrady @thetracebrady ·

my thing is helping you find your thing i've already helped dozens (dozens!) or hundreds if you include speeches (which i don't) maybe i should start counting from scratch just for fun

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: I guess maybe the both-and version is this challenge, which someone could take on: ❤️‍🔥 "help 100 people figure out what their thing is" 💖 (you don't have to completely solve it lol, just make some headway) ...could this be your thing?

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"instead of getting a deal with the devil, you get a subscription" —a friend of mine

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

sometimes people think they're unlucky when something bad happens to them, but when you investigate the chain of events, they're actually lucky that that was the first/only time something bad happened, and they were basically doomed to begin with

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@solarsystern - you did this? I'd be interested in commissioning something similar 😮

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I'm not going to say it's been a pleasure but it's been an experience, and one I will treasure

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the paradox of blindspot feedback: in order to convey something to someone, you need to match their frame but once you match their frame, the thing you're trying to say no longer makes any sense

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Thread · Rationality only exists within a frame · 1 of 5 tweets

"this esoteric one implies that if you see someone go from doing rational things to irrational things, what happened was they just switched frames" — @DanielTabakman

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Replying to @MauiMescudi

@MauiMescudi not on the big scale I just closed a challenging but ultimately deeply satisfying conversation with these words

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Thread · Rationality only exists within a frame · 1 of 5 tweets

@DanielTabakman @DanielTabakman elaborates "ohhhh, you know what the implication of this is? within a frame, choice is an illusion" Me: "which leaves only frame choice I guess.... whatever that is 🙃"

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tired: integration wired: outegration

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I just had 12h straight of zoom calls with only a 15min walking break at like hour 2... (forgot to eat during most of that) ...and I feel *amazing* 😮 Such rich connections, such beautiful people. Live, real stuff. Making sense of the universe and each other together. Co-flow.

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

If we are still here in 2,000 years more people will know about @worrydream than Trump.

quoting @michael_nielsen: I am sometimes asked why @worrydream’s work matters. It’s frustrating. It’s like being asked why someone trying to invent writing (a few k years ago) matters. “Sounds weird”. “What are the applications”. Etc. It’s too miniscule a frame...

@Conaw @worrydream

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Who is remembered? What is greatness? asleepthinking.com/blog/terrence-…

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well-timedly, I came across this article at the same time I came across this tweet, expressing a very similar sentiment (and somehow managed to find both tabs at once among a hundred open tabs 😆)

Conor @Conaw ·

If we are still here in 2,000 years more people will know about @worrydream than Trump.

quoting @michael_nielsen: I am sometimes asked why @worrydream’s work matters. It’s frustrating. It’s like being asked why someone trying to invent writing (a few k years ago) matters. “Sounds weird”. “What are the applications”. Etc. It’s too miniscule a frame...

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was looking at 2 sizes of same pillow on amazon. same price. kinda wanted larger one. smaller one had $5 off coupon. hmm... didn't recall seeing that coupon yesterday... refreshed the page on the larger one... $7 off coupon! !?

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Retweeted @tasshinfogleman

people are sacred, conversations are worship

Retweeted @the_wilderless

Worship is a conversation, sacredness is personality. People are worship Sacredness is a conversation. Conversat…

Thread · Choosing a MIDI keyboard with built-in speakers · 6 of 9 tweets

@Bitwig for context, I got back into keyboard by borrowing a friend's keyboard for 1.5y, which was pretty similar to this one but 88 keys and fewer knobs (Yamaha; thought I'd written down the model but apparently not) this might be roughly what I want?

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I value speakers because I'd like to be able to take it places & jam, or improvise on it while working at my desk, without having to have it set up to a whole DAW just to make sounds MIDI *keyboard*, not MIDI *controller* (maybe nobody says "MIDI kb" bc all electric kbs MIDI?)

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so yeah, @midijeffg, I guess built-in sound card is actually more important—could have external speaker I don't have a good model of what's going on here, but I want the thing to work as a ~standalone device in addition to being an input device for Bitwig twitter.com/midijeffg/stat…

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the idea of having extra knobs & sliders to control bitwig sounds pretty dope—dunno what I'd do with those yet but it has lots of cool plugins to control twitter.com/midijeffg/stat…

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I don't know if I care about weighted keys—I think it's not a major factor, but ceteris paribus I'd prefer them

human age @human__age ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Bitwig I haven’t heard of midi controllers with built in speakers - ya never know though. Weighted vs non-weighted keys is a big factor. I have a fairly simple Novation which works great for my purposes. The Arturia keysteps look really sick

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in terms of hours spent, mainly playing but I do also want to actually record/produce some tracks using MIDI+bitwig! so needs to be multipurpose

εƭɦαɳ @neuro_stack ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Bitwig Speakers on MIDI controllers is rare, usually you will find keyboards with midi plugs but each have different purposes. Are you mainly looking to play or to produce music?

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Replying to Hormeze 𐤄𐤅𐤓𐤌𐤉𐤆 @hormeze ·

@Open1ndividual @owenbroadcast im... scared! i dont feel like i can do justice to how much of a positive effect he had on me, and how much of negative one he had as well! Imma start by throwing a bunch of stuff in a doc rn

@hormeze @Open1ndividual @owenbroadcast oh man, totally! sometimes things are a mix of bad & good in fact, *USUALLY* things are a mix of bad & good common frames don't appreciate this though, which makes it hard to talk about

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

when a good thing is intertwined with a bad thing, such that people don't have words to refer to them separately, two kinds of responses: 1) "thing bad, people who are trying to get it are bad" 2) "thing good, people who are trying to prevent me from getting it are bad"

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check out the shadows 🤭 youtube.com/watch?v=T3E9Wj…

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Replying to εƭɦαɳ @neuro_stack ·

@Malcolm_Ocean See my reply to the quoted tweet, I think that model is a good candidate for your purposes. Great choice on bitwig, btw, it's one of the coolest DAWs

@ethanshamilton I'll check it out! I'm using bitwig mostly because I'm on Linux and was unimpressed by the rest of what I saw. One or two things are still annoying about it (3 button presses to record a new track? 😒) but overall it's ❤️‍🔥

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Replying to εƭɦαɳ @neuro_stack ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Bitwig FWIW this is my favorite MIDI keyboard I have used, but no speakers sweetwater.com/store/detail/K…

@ethanshamilton @Bitwig 16 RGB Perf Pads = mini launchpad? "Playing an organ part? In addition to controlling the levels in your DAW, the nine faders are your drawbars." 🤩 "sustain, expression, and 3 assignable auxiliary pedal jacks. " 😮 (I don't *need* these but I love the vibe)

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Replying to @carlcaulkett.bsky.social 💚🇵🇸🇮🇪 @carlcaulkett ·

@ethanshamilton @Malcolm_Ocean @Bitwig My path into amplified music making was to buy a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 audio interface and a couple of reasonable studio monitors. Those have worked fine for me for 5 years now, leaving me time and space to slowly improve the keyboard from an Oxygen 25 to a Novation Impulse 49😉

@carlcaulkett @ethanshamilton My laptop's main output currently goes to some studio monitors as speakers and I have my partner's ex's old Komplete audio interface that looks v similar to the 2i2, which Bitwig likes and uses for I/O (I plug headphones into their monitor)

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@carlcaulkett @ethanshamilton if I got the Arturia KeyLab MkII, how much other gear would I need with me to make music? just some speakers + cable? Or also a pre-amp? Or my laptop too? I'm okay with some of that I guess, but I'd like to be able to play the keyboard while my laptop is off, eg just before bed

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean How did you do this? Have you tried the joy that tokimeki-unfollow.glitch.me sparks?

@ricvolpe that looks lovely I used something called manageflitter, which was quite good (many ways to sort followees: loud, quiet, recent, old, etc) but they changed how they work in the last few years so I don't think it does the same thing anymore (or not for free, idk)

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Replying to @groundedsage

@groundedSAGE @dismaien @TylerAlterman @__drewface @BlackForestBoi

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Replying to Matt Escapes @mattx1b ·

What if we had drugs that change memories but not the experience in the moment? For example, for sleep, a drug that makes me forget how I struggled to fall asleep the next day. How can I know (in personal experiments) that this is not already what is happening?

@mattx1b you could ask someone in the moment what it's like, and then compare that with their memory from my experience this seems to check out with most altered states I've encountered in myself or others

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Retweeted @meaningfulideas

No! Kids do not have to learn respect! This is one of the most common things I have heard in my 25 years practicing N…

Replying to @VectorOfBasis

@VectorOfBasis @diviacaroline +1 to this worth basically everybody spending a few minutes every few months on this page and picking a star rating for everything though amazon.ca/review/review-…

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

I could probably physically go without caffeine for a day without much side effect rn, But the main obstacle at this point is like, what do I drink? Am I supposed to just not drink coffee, tea, Red Bull, nothin? You expect me to raw dog the day on what, rooibos?

@the_wilderless idk man, rooibos, herbal teas, dandelion blend (tastes coffee-esque but no caffeine) ...could even just have decaf coffee

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Replying to kai 🥰 @kaisoapbox ·

@kenshirriff @visakanv ooo my guesses are 1a 2c 3a 4c 5a

@kaisoapbox @kenshirriff @visakanv bam! also got it. wasn't very confident lol but okay might have done worse if I hadn't expected to be able to tell despite not knowing any of the history are these real questions?

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Replying to Daemonic is Gendlinmaxxing 🤑 @daemonhugger ·

@mattx1b @metaLulie Lol yeah the size of the archive link visually represents my comfort with self-promotion 🐜

@daemonhugger @mattx1b @metaLulie yo just make the link bigger bro ppl can click if they want existing is not self-promomotion

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@davidfactorial hm?

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@HephaistosF Mmm, that's a good heuristic! I like some stuff about the "good tho" frame in the context of some of what I'm doing, because of how it highlights how most things aren't even good. But for other things, yeah, awesome seems better to aim for.

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Replying to Matt Escapes @mattx1b ·

“Awakening or bust — NOT.”🤣 Enjoyed listening to this podcast about trauma, meditation and awakening. tim.blog/2021/09/08/hen…

@mattx1b Say more about “Awakening or bust — NOT.”! Are you saying Henry Shukman has a more spacious outlook than that?

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @DanielTabakman I tried an experiment on the call with Daniel last night of considering that perhaps my experience is composed of fractal frames consisting of each ontum of my perceptual control hierarchy, then tried playing Stairway to Heaven on my uke & experienced them all at once. Trippy!

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @DanielTabakman

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Retweeted @visakanv

Trying to think of a historical example of a hyperachiever who (1) joined some sort of cloistered group that promised to mold…

reading about Toki Pona I'm reminded of @daemonhugger's description of the value of doing improv in gibberish do we have to pay more attention to the process of co-creating meaning with each other when we can't be verbally precise?

skelton jon @whyevernotso ·

@visakanv Hawaiian Pidgin is a beautiful language If you like it, you might also enjoy Toki Pona, a minimalist pidgin-inspired conlang with only 120 words—it’s nice for small intimate conversation (tryna learn it with my partner) tokipona.org

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huh, @visakanv, what about throwing in like 1% Singlish into your tweets? particularly words that feel really missing from English enough for people in the scene to become familiar with some new meanings without getting overwhelmed

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

A great Singlish word that doesn't really have a good english substitute is SIAN. It's like, you're worse than bored. kinda morose, but "morose" is too profound. you're kinda depressed, but depression is too serious, there's some ennui but it's not anywhere as poetic. just sian

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eg I've managed to infer that "tahan" must mean something like "put up with [it]/endure/tolerate" based on its use twice in this work (just the once wouldn't have worked though, and twice still wasn't enough for me to recall it from memory)

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I once translated Hamlet’s To Be Or Not To Be into Singlish and I think it’s one of my finest works

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probably if you were to do this it would actually start by doing a thread for a given word, so that when someone asks you what the word means you are prepared 😂

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

"what do you mean by well-prepared?" well, I already have a thread about this. that's what I mean by well-prepared x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: I want to solve big problems. most of the people whom I've seen attempt to solve big problems seem to have failed. common assumption here is: this is because big problems are hard. I'm not a fan of that frame. my belief is that most attempts fail because of lack of preparation

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I think objectively speaking "guy achieves childhood dreams and is absolutely delighted, full of joy & gratitude" should be s…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I would like us to invent (or rediscover) more means and modes of relating to people. of expression. there’s a lot we can do from haiku to sonnet, in every imaginable domain, and domains we have not yet imagined

@visakanv I sometimes sing a song (usually one I've written) to someone as a way to express what I have to say about what we're talking about.

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yo @hormeze if you haven't read this Leonard Cohen poem, well uhh, here it is for you to read The Drunk is Gender-Free

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Last week I gave this challenge a go and prototyped twisa.volpato.io Not exactly a curated thread of threads, but a p…

Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

Last week I gave this challenge a go and prototyped twisa.volpato.io Not exactly a curated thread of threads, but a playful lense to explore the world of a captivating thinker (@visakanv) without relying on recency or search

quoting @tasshinfogleman: @ricvolpe write a thread similar to this one that you did for @Malcolm_Ocean, but for another account - curating their best/your favorite tweets/threads. feel free to be playful + do it differently, or adapt the scope if that would take longer than 5-10h https://t.co/EG5SSBeamJ

@ricvolpe @visakanv wow, awesome one small bit of feedback is that the buttons at the top don't display state, like there's no way to see what it's actually sorted by just put a glow around the active one or something and cursor:pointer on hover

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There's a moment in the feral free agent journey, when you close the loop, when you have made something you love and someone bought it and you go "oh, I want to live like that!" A friend buying what you made is a good step, but it hits different when it's a stranger.

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

“If it feels like work, you’d rather be doing something else. Just go do that something else.” Weirdly, this is leading m…

Retweeted @kitterati

Swapping anecdotes with colleagues of times we've dropped the ball at work and one came out with 'Dropping a ball would impl…

"make sure by the time you lose interest, something's published" me summarizing @visakanv's "just get out the minimum viable write-up on something" = ADHD strategy part of why twitter is such a powerful platform relates to @fortelabs's "intermediate packet" concept

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every book on communication could be re-titled: How To Not Trigger Me The Author In Particular (And Maybe Some Other People)

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Thread · Designing goal-setting prompts that evoke your own whys

The initial goal-setting page is already pretty bold about going right to the heart of what's important to the individual, not just what they think is important. Here's the thread where I improved that a lot:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The homepage says "Progress towards what matters" & "Complice is for making meaningful progress every day." I think the first thing Complice needs to ask is not "what are your goals?" but "what matters to you?" Aha, here we go. I like this onboarding page much better.

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Is the framing of "goals" still getting in the way, even though it's not in the foreground on that page? Would it be better to just switch to "whys"?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

So @reasonisfun is checking out Complice, and messaged me today wondering about the word "goal", and the way the conversation went prompted some thoughts on my own goals. Here's what she said:

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Or maybe some people would need to be guided through a little meditation first, in order to tap into their deeper sense of what they want rather than their concept of what should be the highest level of their goal hierarchy. But others would hate that, hm.

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Ideally the prompts would directly evoke peoples' own goals, but another approach would be to just include a step in the goal-setting wizard that's like "does it feel should-like? is it yours? reframe it until it really feels exciting & inspiring"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

shit I accidentally adopted someone else's concept of a good life and was aiming for that instead of my own concept

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One exercise that can be helpful for this, that I came up with years ago, I call "Just Do A Thing (that nobody’s expecting you to do)" (& don't tell anybody you're doing it!) This can be a great way to find something you want to do for intrinsic reasons! malcolmocean.com/2015/11/just-d…

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Discerning the difference between what you really want and what you think you want is huge. Hard to overstate the importance.

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I think objectively speaking "guy achieves childhood dreams and is absolutely delighted, full of joy & gratitude" should be something that makes headlines every time it happens, so that we can all learn from it. "guy gets everything he thought he wanted and remains miserable" too

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To some extent, probably you kinda have to try things to find which are yours & which are others, like @davidfactorial did which prompted him to tweet about this in the first place, but design makes a difference: "what should you have accomplished by now already?" = obvsly worse

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Also to some extent these things can be entangled. You may want to do something, and you have a mix of your own reasons and others' reasons for wanting to do it. A mix of your own *meanings* and others' meanings.

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I'm not gonna change the app today but this has got me seriously thinking... Wouldn't be that hard to rename goals "whys", if I thought that was net good. Could record a 2-3 min video that's optionally on that goal-setting page, to invite people to reach for their own dreams.

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if you don't think it's possible to improve on a given axis, try checking if you could make things worse

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eg me trying to encourage self-authored goals, and coming up with the awful prompt: "what should you have accomplished by now already?"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

To some extent, probably you kinda have to try things to find which are yours & which are others, like @davidfactorial did which prompted him to tweet about this in the first place, but design makes a difference: "what should you have accomplished by now already?" = obvsly worse

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Retweeted @mechanical_monk

@averykimball I like UBI because we're now at productivity levels where we can power the entire economy with male stat…

wow, this singlish demo is very cool. useful to see the same phrase inflected differently. I want to learn these inflectionals (or whatever they're called) reminds me a bit of lojban, but... chiller 😛

Dio @shrinetothevine ·

@btohtoh @workingjubilee @visakanv

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Replying to Sasha Putilin (curious irrationalist) @42irrationalist ·

Wanting and enjoying are two different things. Human minds run mostly on wanting.

quoting @noampomsky: kind of inconvenient that most people need to get what they want to realize they don’t want it

@42irrationalist yeah seems like two things 1. people don't know what they want, and think they want all sorts of things they don't want 2. people don't know how to thoroughly enjoy getting what they in fact want

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Epic table of contents from Scale by Geoffrey West: Tag yourself, I'm integrating the social with the physical.

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Replying to Trent Fowler @Trent_STEMpunk ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Great book and great guy. Have you listened to our interview with him? youtu.be/WhoJbmwye0s

@Trent_STEMpunk oooh, not yet: all I've done is dive into the book after hearing it referenced by @jgreenhall in his Civium intro

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Cities are attractors because of superlinear real-productivity scaling. Now that we can do collaboration with anyone in the world, we can have a single global virtual city. Then way less need to pack tightly! = summary of @jgreenhall's Civium concept 🧵👇 youtube.com/watch?v=yXBAtd…

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Thread · A running collection of tables of contents I love · 1 of 6 tweets

Wow. This book is an impressive convo of technical+rigorous and playful+casual, and the table of contents reveals that immediately.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Epic table of contents from Scale by Geoffrey West: Tag yourself, I'm integrating the social with the physical.

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Replying to delysis @delysis ·

@sirsfurther @selentelechia @imperialauditor @Malcolm_Ocean Yeah, I think it would be wrong and bad to make the use of dowsing institutional policy, but Do I believe there are some people who use it constructively as an aid to intuition? Yeah, probably. There is computational precedent, too —consider jitter. It’s noise for truth.

@0th_disciple @sirsfurther @selentelechia @imperialauditor Yeah, this article talks about various techniques as an aid to intuition, even by just subverting our pattern-matching & procedural minds using randomness, so early humans would be able to hunt in unpredictable ways. slatestarcodex.com/2019/06/04/boo…

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Retweeted @captain_mrs

🎶 school boat, boat that's a school 🎶

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Everyone's basically living in a dream mashup of their current external situation & their old emotional meanings. Like dreaming you're at high school but it's also on a boat somehow. & as in dreams, somehow the weirdness of this mashup goes unnoticed malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…

Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

🎶 school boat, boat that's a school 🎶 x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Everyone's basically living in a dream mashup of their current external situation & their old emotional meanings. Like dreaming you're at high school but it's also on a boat somehow. & as in dreams, somehow the weirdness of this mashup goes unnoticed https://t.co/8qP6ApK4pJ

@captain_mrs do you actually have a melody for this? we could make a lil track 😮

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Replying to Daniel Tabakman @DanielTabakman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @HephaistosF Wouldn't it be cool to live your life like that?

@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF idk man seems like a lot of tension to carry in my brow all the time 😛

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Replying to Matt Escapes @mattx1b ·

@Malcolm_Ocean His description of this topic and his experiences very down-to-earth, easy to listen to and accept for where I am right now. The context for that quote is that primarily focusing on awakening may not be the most useful mindset.

@mattx1b Bahahaha amazing. Yo @DanielTabakman how does this stuff map onto what we were talking about the other night?

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I resonate with this and would also like suggestions.

Ric @ricvolpe ·

I find it quite hard to keep tabs on what other people are up to, what they need, prefer, favour, seek and resonate with. What are good mental models for this? How to practice and get better?

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

Why are you, as a human, whose needs are taken care of for the next couple moments, hours, or days, not having a good time?

@AskYatharth "Too many open browser tabs" would have been my answer the last couple days, but I have now taken care of them.

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kinda wack that many times a week I hit play on an album of music knowing nothing about it other than the cover art, name & artist name (but nothing about the artist) app-based genres have always sucked / been too narrow but @YoutubeMusic doesn't even include genres at all

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Design Rant time! Today: audio streaming services. Why are they all the same old boring things and stuck in the same old metaphors of "playlists" and "radio"? Virtual ports of old music-library managers. Lots of improvements to be made—in particular, tags! #ThingsIWantToExist twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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o shit this is trippy music definitely electronica... started off chill then did a dubsteppy kind of drop now 150bpm trance ...then suddenly chill ambient synths & lil piano notes (track 1, Sojourn) youtube.com/watch?v=a7yRk5…

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Okay, here's a wild take: your first goal on Complice should just be called "The Thing" 😂 Whatever the thing is, for you, that's your first goal.

Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I started writing things like "The Thing" (knowing what I meant by that) rather than "Inspire others by producing content that encourages authenticity and positive collaboration" (which was almost but not quite what I meant, and the "not quite" was enough to make it teachery)

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yo new followers! there are a lot of you 😮❤️‍🔥 I have some questions:  what... is your name?  what... is your quest?  what... is your favorite colour?

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Replying to Jake Orthwein @JakeOrthwein ·

@Malcolm_Ocean x.com/jakeorthwein/s…

@JakeOrthwein Wow, lovely.

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Replying to Jane @joespurpleshirt ·

what are y’all washing your hair with these days? i switched from shampoo to apple cider vinegar like four months ago and my hair has looked dumb for four months

@joespurpleshirt I've been using DevaCurl No-Poo & One Condition for years. Their shampoo alternative doesn't foam (no SLS) so it's really gentle for curly/wavy hair. Recently got into AOBiome skin microbiome tech, and their kit includes a tiny thingy of probiotic shampoo+cond which seems okay.

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@davidfactorial may you fall asleep feeling snuggled by the entire universe

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I started writing things like "The Thing" (knowing what I meant by that) rather than "Inspire others by producing content that encourages authenticity and positive collaboration" (which was almost but not quite what I meant, and the "not quite" was enough to make it teachery)

@captain_mrs Oh shit, that makes a ton of sense.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Okay, here's a wild take: your first goal on Complice should just be called "The Thing" 😂 Whatever the thing is, for you, that's your first goal. twitter.com/captain_mrs/st…

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hipness is... what it is hipness is... what it is hipness is... what it is but sometimes hipness is... what it ain't! hipness is neither what it is, nor what it ain't! but also hipness is both what it is, and what it ain't!

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Think of thinking as a conversation with yourself. Think of conversation as collective thought. Both directions of this analogy are super fruitful. I think it's one we make unconsciously anyway, and confusions of how one works often manifest as confusions of how the other works.

George Silverman | The MindSkills Guy @GeorgeSilverman ·

Improve your thinking — even if you are a genius VERY IMPORTANT THREAD + TEMPLATE 1. Think of thinking as a conversation with yourself, a dialogue or a group meeting of your parts: What kind of conversation is this? 👇 <<<THREAD>>>

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@Trent_STEMpunk @jgreenhall Btw if you haven't checked out Civium I would highly recommend it. Fascinating concept building on Scale's ideas towards the idea of a single global city (at least for some purposes)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

India’s biggest state is Rajasthan, which at ~342,000km^2, is bigger than Poland or Italy, just a lil smaller than Germany (~357,000km^2)

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@visakanv wow, india bigger than I thought probably some mercator projection shit

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Retweeted @visakanv

a thing I struggle with all the time is trying to be socially appropriate with people – being friendly, kind, gentle, thought…

The Butterfly Paradox: supposedly, tiny changes have big impacts, and yet in practice what single tiny flap could you make that would make a meaningful difference on purpose? Why is this? (I have some guesses but I'll let folks speculate before I post mine)

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

idk why people don't see it the present echoes into the future you know how theoretically if you could go back in time, you could make tiny changes that change everything? the present is the future's past you can make tiny changes that change everything

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Replying to Delip Rao e/σ @deliprao ·

Last year, I experimented with different writing machines. The goal was to keep a dedicated station with no internet connectivity and minimal software for the purpose of "just writing".

@deliprao one of my best moves on this front was using a bluetooth keyboard to type on my phone while it's in focus mode (no notifications or distracting apps) usually into google docs because the sync is so simple and consistent, then would import into roam later (airplane mode ok too)

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what if it were good tho

soft @soft ·

The Google search summary vs the actual page

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haven't had a working phone for about a week, since I left it drying for a few days then afterwards it seems to not be charging properly not sure what my plan is secretly I've been enjoying not having a phone tbh way more present as I walk around

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I fell in the ocean this evening! Got soaked up to my armpits! Am home safe & sound 😊 I was trying to circumnavigate a "point" & the beach gradually turned to rocks turned to cliffs. Phone maybe fucked but I at least have this one pic I sent the friend I was on the phone with.

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how could I have the best of both worlds? I think I'd like a Device for Augmented Walking: - podcast & music app - google maps + calendar - ability to message friends to coordinate location ...but yeah! I don' think it needs a web browser or any social media or other apps, tbh.

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oh, would need to take photos, obviously I've been borrowing Sarah's phone a little but I haven't connected it to internet at all and photos are literally the only thing I've used it for so far (oh wait no plus I put my nap mp3 on it today because my shuffle needed charging)

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Replying to Loopy @strangestloop ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean Visa to Malcolm etc

@strangestloop @visakanv

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Replying to Na Ro @peak_valley_pea ·

@Malcolm_Ocean ???

@peak_valley_pea google's search snippets pulled out the list of "don'ts" as advice for what to do

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Thread · We don't have time to rush · 1 of 4 tweets

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

There’s a spectrum from obvious cliché to incomprehensible gibberish and all the magic is in the turbulent sweet spot in the middle

@visakanv ayyy lmao

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Thread · We don't have time to rush · 1 of 4 tweets

Retweeted @PlayNiceInst

Where can I find out about the online microcommunities that young people are building? When I wrote my last (!!) academic…

Replying to Isabela Granic @PlayNiceInst ·

Where can I find out about the online microcommunities that young people are building? When I wrote my last (!!) academic paper, I read about tons, but had to ignore cuz they weren't "empirical" enough. I no longer have those constraints & I want back into those rabbit holes!

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@PlayNiceInst @__drewface want to talk about some of your experiences?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@PlayNiceInst Ahh I have vague thoughts coming to mine but I’m too sleepy to point at anything confidently. I’ll RT now and reply when I wake up, if I remember!

@visakanv @PlayNiceInst this is reminding me also of your desire to get a bunch of write-ups about historical scenes how do we get write-ups of live scenes, or of scenes that existed like 2019-2020, too?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Eugène Galien-Laloue. I really love these. It's like Humans Of Paris 1850s. I love how the painting style feels like something designed to paint nature, and how the artificial lights (were these electric lights?) stand out. Could you do cyberpunk paintings in this style?

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@visakanv could maybe get @images_ai or some similar system to compose such a thing "cyberpunk city in the style of <this painting>" would be better if actually done by hand though I think

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schedule is so fucking full of so many amazing fucking things goddamn, gotta ascend to new levels to figure out how to organize all these possibilities

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maybe the solution would be rooting an android phone and making a modified version of cyanogenmod or something where you have two accounts and one of them is extremely restricted and in order to log into the other you have to reboot and wait a minute so could use in a pinch

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Replying to Matt Jugo @Jeanvaljean689 ·

@joespurpleshirt Making it into cool, rhythmic shapes, sometimes even in the company of crowds of others, doing the same

@Jeanvaljean689 @joespurpleshirt I was just gonna say dancing but yes converting music into bodyshapes

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Replying to Stephen L @sunofdopamine ·

@visakanv okay there's also the screen res and build quality

@sunofdopamine @visakanv I've got a 4k linux screen from @system76 and I love it

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

there's definitely a narrative in my head somewhere that I have to hold on to some of my misery to "keep myself humble and true", which, when written down, is suuuuch bullshit

@visakanv seems like there might be some wisdom you need to hold onto which is still coupled with the misery, but doesn't have to be the important thing is not to compartmentalize the misery away as you reach higher ie to have what @HFreinacht calls "depth"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@nickcammarata @HFreinacht It seems to me this model allows describing an axis I would expect to be highly correlated with ethical action: high state PLUS integrated awareness that others are in very low states and that that actually matters and is not just an illusion or whatever

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thread of times @visakanv realized what's missing from his book

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

aaaaanndddddd this thread might be the heart of the missing chapter in my book that I've been struggling to identify. FML at how this is such a cliche trope of "you receive what you're trying to get when you finally surrender". 😡😭😩😂

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(apparently only 2 so far but I still found this amusing enough to want to tweet it—hopefully this'll be it for Introspect but there'll probably be more for his next 5 books)

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I want to laugh and cry at this: 😂😭 I didn’t know how to explain why my book wasn’t done and now I know what was missing: the concept of “a change of heart” (and the fog and light stuff) and now I can explain: my heart wasn’t fully in it until now so recursively elegant

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

just imagine Elon or Steve Jobs or Jeff Bezos (or Dylan, or Prince, or Gandhi, whoever you consider an outlier-tier hyperachiever) "sitting in many meetings in which (their) progress as a “self-debugger” was analyzed or diagnosed." it's the funniest fucking idea to me i'm sorry

@visakanv Mason has a thread that resonates with yours but which I also find subtly amusing because it's framing the thing as "introspecting" which is your book title what's your best pitch for what introspecting will get us, Visa, if not Muskdom?

Mason @webdevMason ·

One of the weirdest ideas in Bay Area rationalist/adjacent circles is that you become someone like e.g. Elon Musk, hyper-productive and motivated, by introspecting a ton

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

My Twitter feed is becoming haunted glossolalia, and degrading my thinking skills. I want to take a month off. Anyone interested in joining me, and having mutual accountability?

@utotranslucence @Conaw is on a hiatus as of a bit over a week ago!

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"if you think of your own ideas as kind of an engine, then if the exhaust is blocked up the engine will stop running" — @Conaw (he might be referencing someone else, idk)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@twinfrey 🥺❤️

@visakanv @twinfrey

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

someone said something to me like "it's kinda scary interacting with you because you could at any time quote-tweet something of mine and ask 30,000 people to mock it" but like, have you seen the ppl who follow me. if I QT'd saying "insult this man!" they'd ask me if I'm ok

@visakanv and meanwhile you're the guy who notices and asks nicely before RTing something from an account with only a dozen followers

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@maiab @sylibia great tweets!! @sylibia mind if I RT?

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Replying to @joodaloop

@joodaloop I have a list of people I'd like to sponsor.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@yashkaf I have a shortlist of people I want to buy out of their dayjobs so they can do interesting stuff full-time. That's the main reason I would like to have 10-100× as much money as I do now.

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Replying to bungoman @bungoman ·

@anonymiserly ah! splendid idea

quoting @bungoman: without looking it up can you name any of your eight great grandparents? are you american?

@bungoman @anonymiserly do another one that's like "do you have on file the names of all eight of your great grandparents (no asking relatives, but you're allowed to look in your own notes)?"

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wow I would have guessed the correlations the opposite way on this! curious where most of these non-Americans are from

bungoman @bungoman ·

without looking it up can you name all eight of your great grandparents? are you american?

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@selentelechia @default_friend @hmmposter @eigenrobot in 2020 we're gonna learn how to enjoy the sounds of other people having sex like god intended

@QiaochuYuan @selentelechia @default_friend @eigenrobot whether or not this tweet aged poorly depends on how many roommates someone has 😂

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

Guys. Guys. I think I've got it. It begins with T—and ends in reeeeeees!! 🌳🌳🌳 Feel free to donate my prize money to helping the amazon not disintegrate in our lifetime.

quoting @PeterDiamandis: Elon Musk is giving $100 million to anyone who can find a way to pull carbon dioxide directly from the atmosphere or oceans and sequester it durably and sustainably. Personally, I think $100 million is a bargain.

@jonnym1ller I don't think that actually works? Like they'll help a bit but the amount of fossil fuels we've been burning is at least 10000 years worth of trees and if you told me I was missing 5 zeros I'd believe you.

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🎧 to this ❤️‍🔥 cover & thought of recent convos w @visakanv We are made of our longest days We are falling but not alone We will take the best parts of ourselves And make them gold We are made of our smallest thoughts We are breathing and letting go youtube.com/watch?v=EebWWO…

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Replying to 🍍 __ 🙀 @sharanvkaur ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean does this count? x.com/visakanv/statu…

@sharanvkaur @visakanv this is great guys knew I could count on yall to help

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Replying to Alex Kennedy @kenakennedy ·

@speakerjohnash @FutureThinkers_ @jim_rutt @Malcolm_Ocean 4 way call anyone? Lets fire up this ship to game B guys. 😎💪🏻🚢

@kenakennedy @speakerjohnash @FutureThinkers_ @jim_rutt that would be pretty awesome & would help solve my full calendar 😅 so yeah, I'm broadly down for any combo that makes sense to people I've spoken briefly with AK & FT before, and have been meaning to reach out to @jim_rutt about ProtoBs for a few months

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

schedule is so fucking full of so many amazing fucking things goddamn, gotta ascend to new levels to figure out how to organize all these possibilities

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Replying to Na Ro @peak_valley_pea ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Yeah, I get that, but what's good about that? It's blatant misinformation

@peak_valley_pea oh this is me saying "this is not good, what if it were good"

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@pragueyerrr @WhyEnggWhy adjacently, recently this has been a theme of my conversations with @Malcolm_Ocean about being business-y friends – we have years and years of interactions to build a shared understanding with, which has a robustness that you can't speedrun with someone you just met

@visakanv @pragueyerrr @WhyEnggWhy

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the thing about old friends is that you can't get new ones

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Replying to Ms. G 💖 @pragueyerrr ·

@visakanv @WhyEnggWhy @Malcolm_Ocean shoutout malcolm i love u

@pragueyerrr @visakanv @WhyEnggWhy

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Replying to Andy Vargas @andaVargas ·

@Malcolm_Ocean It’s not as stark once you realize the 3rd and 4th options are out of order :\

@andaVargas yeah this happened to me too

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean nominative determinism strikes again

@visakanv yeah I knew it would happen sooner or later 🌊

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean x.com/visakanv/statu…

@visakanv allow me to introduce you to this brilliant song by Canadian poets Barenaked Ladies youtube.com/watch?v=hm8yG8…

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Retweeted @daemonhugger

Existing is not self-promotion. — @Malcolm_Ocean

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean “how could we make this worse tho?” in my letter to songwriters I advocate for writing the worst songs you possibly can

@visakanv huh, yeah might be able to bust some assumptions about the design space by not trying to answer "on what dimensions can I think of improvements?" until you've thoroughly enumerated potential dimensions of change

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The bottleneck is unquestioned assumptions about both the problemspace and the solutionspace.

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Replying to cam @Empathy2000 ·

poast OCEAN

@empathy2000 too lazy to retake test but not too lazy to answer all "neither agree nor disagree" then modify the html to display results from previous times I took the test to get the nice pretty bar chart idk what that says about my personality 😅

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@jessicamalonso @empathy2000 ayyyy

@visakanv @jessicamalonso @empathy2000 you mean "that's why you agree with visa 73% of the time much" 😜 (also hi I am a more extreme version of you guys or something?)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@empathy2000 too lazy to retake test but not too lazy to answer all "neither agree nor disagree" then modify the html to display results from previous times I took the test to get the nice pretty bar chart idk what that says about my personality 😅

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Thread · You can't make new old friends · 3 of 6 tweets

I mean you can, but not as old as the old ones you can't make new childhood friends once you're in high school you can't make new high school friends in college you can't make new college friends in your 30s you can't "go way back with" people you meet in your 60s

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the implications of this aren't totally clear, but as I've come to appreciate it it's made me cherish the close relationships I have with people I've known a long time and want to gently kindle the ones that are falling out of touch

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The people you spend time with will end up being the people you've spent time with. Most people don't realize this.

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picking up with old friends is remarkably possible, if it's still a good fit now your heart remembers the laughs you've shared

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Btw, what's happening here isn't a biological flaw. It's the brain working effectively to rapidly generate a model of what's going on and what to do about it. Same hardware that lets you "pick up like it was just yesterday" when you meet an old friend you haven't seen in years.

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I looked up some numbers and just got schooled 🙈 (phytoplankton do pack a punch though). On a broader note, I tend to agree with @ceisenstein that focusing entirely on C02 sequestering is missing the bigger picture: charleseisenstein.org/essays/climate…

@jonnym1ller @ceisenstein new slogan: "Untangle Climate Change"

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

what is the correct amount of y's in ayy(y) lmao

@visakanv I apparently intuitively thought "ayyy" when I searched just now then corrected to "ayy" and found this poll with 2h left

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Replying to prerat @prerat ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean just as a data point, "introspect" does feel a little off as a title to me, too i think there's some concept you keep going back to like self-harmony (im sure you have better words) that might be carve-able into a title?

@prerationalist @visakanv riffing, wondering if it should say something about courage itself visa if you point me at your table of contents or something I will riff names

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Replying to Na Ro @peak_valley_pea ·

@Malcolm_Ocean But how this could be good? 😂 That's the OG question!

@peak_valley_pea honestly it's one of those things that (like microwaves) has gone backwards although in this case due to real pressures—indexing the internet is harder than before I'm really not sure how to make snippets better... I don't understand how/why they're as bad as they are

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @jonnym1ller When I have a proper studio in several years I’ll have a teleprompter setup like @zachphillips does where you can look directly into your interlocutor’s eyes

@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @zachphillips I am so stoked for this, thanks for reminding me

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Replying to The Faily Show @thefailyshow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @joodaloop I would love to be on that list.

@thefailyshow @joodaloop could happen I would have to see you doing a bunch of cool shit first the whole thing has this kind of vibe

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I wanted to be friends with Malcolm because I saw that he was asking himself interesting questions, and striving to answer them. That’s my jam, too. I figured that if I gave him interesting questions, he would give me interesting questions. We’re 5 years in. Wait till you see 50

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Replying to Maia Bittner @maiab ·

I feel like store associates used to be super fast keying in things and now everyone is just mystified by touchscreens

@maiab people don't understand feedback loops I have a rant if you want to feel understood: malcolmocean.com/2015/12/interf…

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Replying to Danielle Fong 🔆 @DanielleFong ·

@PeterDiamandis plants do it, so what you mean is, you have to do it cheaper than trees do already, at planetary scale and urgently

@DanielleFong @PeterDiamandis yeah, fossil fuels represent millions of years worth of plants being burned in a few centuries, so we need a whole different kind of solution (based on Carboniferous Period as being 60M y long)

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Replying to Danielle Fong 🔆 @DanielleFong ·

"creator" is a pretty good new emerging profession title, nice work

@DanielleFong aiming towards everyone being creators & learners

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Retweeted @visakanv

in this house we believe in: - let curiosity drive - QT to support, never to dunk - joke about outcomes you want - introduce…

Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@captain_mrs @me_ander relationships are made out of "you had to be there"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The people you spend time with will end up being the people you've spent time with. Most people don't realize this.

Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

portrait of enneagram 9 trying to access deeply repressed anger (2021)

@captain_mrs @LordChisholm this may be of interest curious also what moves have helped you here!

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Retweeted @captain_mrs

the feeling of eating a contradiction is so satisfying

Replying to Oliver Sauter @olivers_tools ·

Incentives > Rules

@BlackForestBoi gives me "leverage points" vibes

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows Made into a thread for QTing, by me! 🧵👇

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I'm always conflicted about this. on one hand yes, but on the other hand, I can't help but also say, if some coin and trinkets is all it takes to discourage you from the ambition of your heart, you were never fuckin' ambitious to begin with anyway x.com/justindross/st…

@visakanv me at 22: > I'm about to say something that would seriously drop the jaw of my 15-year-old self: > "I'm not particularly interested in working at Google right now."

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Retweeted @thetracebrady

"who am i? what do i want? how do i get started? ahhhh!" finding "your thing" can be frustrating af especially without…

you don't know until you know

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean wait you were 22 in 2015? so you're... 28? huh, I'd have assumed you were 30 or older

@visakanv am 29 now (note also it was Jan 2015)

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Replying to Loopy @strangestloop ·

@visakanv visa what is the rebuttal to: “if i joke about the outcomes i want then those who could help me get there will see i’m joking and they will think i’m not serious about working toward that outcome and they will not help me”

@strangestloop @visakanv also talk seriously about the outcomes you want

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Retweeted @strangestloop

some of y’all be like “I’m gonna be really naughty 😈 I’m gonna shitpost 😈😈 Okay here I go 😈😈😈 Ahem… Why do they call…

Retweeted @biancawelds

Ok, I'm only a few days into my trial of @CompliceGoals and I'm already very impressed with what @Malcolm_Ocean has create…

lil nudges make a difference

Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

BTW I probably wouldn’t be doing this right now if it wasn’t for @Malcolm_Ocean and his Complice app. It really forced me to think what I care most about, and to start doing something in that direction.

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Retweeted @visakanv

unemployment makes you sexier

What percentage of the people you follow follow @visakanv? Go to twitter.com/visakanv and see how many of the people you follow follow Visa = V Go to your own profile and see how many people you follow total = F divide Visa-followers by Followed-total V÷F =

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Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets

Replying to 🙃 ɐʇǝɯ - 𝐿𝓊𝓁𝒾𝑒 💜🐱 @metaLulie ·

get rid of constraints and just do what you feel like, what your body wants, what clean base feelings you’d have if your head wasn’t getting in the way trying to dictate and plan and predict everything

@metaLulie yisss

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

it's funny when people see I built a productivity app and then they think I'll be on top of to-dos all GTD-style I just do what I feel like and Complice is a way to remind myself what I feel like

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@metaLulie (tho if you feel like having some constraints, that can be fun too)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you don't have to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself not to force yourself to do things but it's okay if you do

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Retweeted @metaLulie

get rid of constraints and just do what you feel like, what your body wants, what clean base feelings you’d have if your hea…

Replying to Bella Rudd @BellaRudd1 ·

so a person at this event claims people flirting & asking each other out irl creates toxic social spaces now 5 minutes later is kvetching about dating apps

@BellaRudd1

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Thank you Mario! But the root of our problem is in another castle!

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Retweeted @selentelechia

just read Making Sense of Behavior perceptual control theory is an incredible model holy shit (H/t @Malcolm_Ocean)

Replying to akhil @fkasummer ·

pct pilled

@infinitsummer my error is decreasing on my reference level for how many people are pct pilled

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@kenakennedy @Malcolm_Ocean 😅 to be clear the crown is about self-sovereignty rather than rule over others...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@visakanv @kenakennedy <voice who="Monty Python"> only the true messiah would deny his divinity! </voice>

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Replying to @selentelechia

@selentelechia @eigenrobot very psychoactive, yup the longer book allowed me to find a state in a few minutes that made some long-time meditator friends jealous

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@tasshinfogleman most psychoactive book would probably be one of the Perceptual Control Theory ones did a mind experiment as part of reading Behavior: The Control of Perception that involved inhibiting the layer of my perceptual hierarchy that thingifies the world, and it was super trippy!

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Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

i wouldn't be too worried about people losing jobs in general right now there's enough work for about a third of the labor force but somehow 90 % of them have a job never underestimate the middle manager's ability to convince their superiors they desperately need more minions

quoting @b___brian: If you're worried about automation taking tech jobs you shouldn't be Everyone said CAD software would replace shape rotators, but there are more than ever before, able to rotate even more complex shapes

@mechanical_monk meanwhile there are enough problems to solve to occupy 10-100× as many people, if we could figure out how to point out the existence of these problems and possible solutions

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Replying to @vals_pals_

@valor_zhang @altsanabo @p_millerd I'm working on a concept called barn-raising, which is about helping give someone a final push to finish a business project!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

who's got a business idea or prototype that needs a day of help from a dozen friends to tip it over into actuality? you could be the focal point of the first tcot virtual barn-raising! if you're nervous about putting your hand up, comment below for some encouragement twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @p_millerd

I want to help more people enter the solo / indie world If you are seriously thinking about it in the next couple of years,…

Retweeted @CompliceGoals

Excellent thread of someone articulating the staleness problems that plague backlog-based to-do systems. Complice is al…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

love seeing the diversity of his influences, and the raw materials he chooses to remix. real artist's heart. you don't realize how bounded people tend to be until you see someone really crossing boundaries

[3 more photos]

@visakanv wow the 2nd one here really gives me playing card vibes

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

it occurs to me that a significant amount of inputs for my model of sensual masculinity were drawn from video game characters

[3 more photos]

@visakanv Dionysus youtube.com/watch?v=FcaifW…

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

Intersection between Perceptual Control Theory and Alexander Technique style expansion of awareness as a way to consciously…

Replying to Daniel Tabakman @DanielTabakman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @HephaistosF Haha nice! Sounds like you're almost there! I'm so curious what it is that you need...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF practice but specifically practicing the thing the thing being something like "getting in touch with full-fractal buy-in" including practicing waiting when it's not obvious how to do that which was an obvious-in-retrospect piece I was missing

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

@Tjdriii i say comprable, but i think noticing bullshiting yourself is harder, because of trauma. like, there's nothing inherently unpleasant (to me at least) about noticing i'm in a dream. but there are many places where my bullshit is maintained by emotional trigger guard rails

@natural_hazard @Tjdriii tentative agreement with what you're saying here, though it's close to views that concern me like cool that you're having this insight for yourself but if you try to tell someone else to approach it this way, get stuffed 👇

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

In my experience, people trying to wake each other up directly, whatever that means, and no matter how spiritually wise they feel in that moment, tend to be doing it in part out of discomfort with being with the "asleep" person. I've been on both sides of this countless times.

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

@Malcolm_Ocean > having trouble telling me apart from someone who has (and would) hurt them 😭😭😭😭

@natural_hazard yeah something deep to honor there it suddenly becomes "oh, ofc you can't tell. that makes sense! if you could tell, we wouldn't be here. and it doesn't help to assume you should be able to tell—usually makes things worse"

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

@Malcolm_Ocean One of the things I cherish most is her reflections on my childhood—who I seemed to be then and how I’m different now. Much harder to get with people who have only known you for 4-5 years. Plus someone who knew the taboos and pressures of the environment I grew up in.

@utotranslucence Wow, what a story. Thanks for sharing 🙏

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Replying to Pony lives in London once more • YKTN 🐺💄🍇 @coladaclan ·

@sonnenmimi @davidfactorial @temeton_blue @meekaale @Witchuals @tasshinfogleman @_StevenFan @metaphorician @pragueyerrr @this_is_silvia @visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean Sure thing, it starts with seeing what your body wants to do with this open.spotify.com/track/1qNWvoGQ…

@coladaclan @sonnenmimi @davidfactorial @temeton_blue @meekaale @Witchuals @tasshinfogleman @_StevenFan @metaphorician @pragueyerrr @this_is_silvia @visakanv Yesssss you teach dancing like I do ❤️‍🔥🤩 it's kinda like a kon-mari approach to dancing, just like, make some movements, try stuff, do more of what feels good, repeat (I've got some complex lateral knee & hip bobs to this track you shared)

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@orthonormalist @selentelechia @Malcolm_Ocean hmmm, I would say the basic telos of perceptual control is just minimizing error signals and integrating the value hierarchy, or something religion in a broad sense seems to be a robust fact of human life so a good theory of human behavior should be compatible with it

@meekaale @orthonormalist @selentelechia I think the two of you are kinda talking past each other. If I were to restate what I think @meekaale was positing, I'd say something like "humans have intrinsic reference levels that map onto {paradise/heaven, shared meaning, trustable authority} & religion solves these"

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Retweeted @edelwax

There are ~20 pendulums like this that, if we learned them in school, would defang most ideologies and startup ideas. https://…

Replying to @selentelechia

@selentelechia @hormeze yesssss glad to have lovely people I know connecting

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Retweeted @QiaochuYuan

i was once at a workshop with a guy who started the workshop by cynically bringing up a bunch of PUA talking points about…

Soliciting other such pendulums! Reply below with ideas, & riff on each other's suggestions.

Joe Edelman @edelwax ·

There are ~20 pendulums like this that, if we learned them in school, would defang most ideologies and startup ideas.

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Retweeted @clarityscape

I think this is why the "make 100 somethings" model works really well 100 feels intuitively like a really good number fo…

@maltybegray so true

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@alt_tatsu many people would probably find the idea that I wore a highschool uniform for 4 years surprising (went to a boarding school, which I loved because it had way more challenge & extras than my hometown) honestly didn't mind it that much at the time; was just part of the backdrop

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania go to party if you think you'll feel like being there once you're there (sometimes context-switching is the hurdle, not the thing itself)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the ability to do a filter:follows search on twitter is one of its most profound features and I bet hardly anybody working on the product realizes this

@visakanv I have this on a browser quicksearch: "twf" so to search follows I press ctrl+T (new tab) twf keyword hit enter 💥

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@mesolude I have some custom search engines which get me to past tweets from myself with just a few keypresses. I also have twf for searching just tweets from people I follow. also helpful, date filters:  since:yyyy-mm-dd  until:yyyy-mm-dd twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @visakanv

the ability to do a filter:follows search on twitter is one of its most profound features and I bet hardly anybody working on…

This is on the right-hand side of the twitter search view and can change your life.

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the ability to do a filter:follows search on twitter is one of its most profound features and I bet hardly anybody working on the product realizes this

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Replying to reddy2go @reddy2go ·

feature not bug 🐛

quoting @hnshah: A high percentage of popular tweets are full of complete nonsense. This is the magic of twitter.

@reddy2go

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@neilkakkar 1000s of Dacks overcome Gronger. They've lost all their Miru and maybe some Jojo. Do you conclude that Gronger is a breakdown of Kabulu?

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One of my all-time favorite dharma writings neuroticgradientdescent.blogspot.com/2020/01/mistra… by my good friend @RomeoStevens76

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@neilkakkar 1000s of Dacks overcome Gronger. They've lost all their Miru and maybe some Jojo. Do you conclude that Gronger is a breakdown of Kabulu?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@neilkakkar 1000s of Dacks overcome Gronger. They've lost all their Miru and maybe some Jojo. Do you conclude that Gronger is a breakdown of Kabulu?

@visakanv @neilkakkar

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

One of my all-time favorite dharma writings neuroticgradientdescent.blogspot.com/2020/01/mistra… by my good friend @RomeoStevens76 twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

jotubu... 😳 vakeem rana seh potu lem? silesi 😔x.com/polytr0pe/stat…

@visakanv po po po niles nasha mecrio 😂

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the spirit of meaningless gibberish is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive

@visakanv

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

et tokku pokku baja shie?

quoting @visakanv: tigilly ravileh gatotsu catotsu shakabuku mopitty vedita kembilla jay!!!

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Replying to Knıpps @Knipps ·

@taalumot @OccultBoyscout sugar cube?

@Knipps @taalumot @OccultBoyscout drop it on a sugar cube

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something important here in the background not sure how to put it into words but it relates to how schools & family haven't mixed and how something's weird about that "nobody here has a degree in school counselling... your qualifications are…?" "we're dads!" it takes a village twitter.com/CBSEveningNews…

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

can someone sparksnotes vervaeke for me

quoting @fkasummer: going go thru vervaeke again

@MasterTimBlais I am also interested in this

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the ability to do a filter:follows search on twitter is one of its most profound features and I bet hardly anybody working on the product realizes this

@visakanv we should also have a search filter for "liked by me" and "retweeted by me" (and maybe the same for following/followers, though that could be computationally a lot)

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Given that there's demand for this, I am glad it exists. The fact that it *needs* to exist is a sign of /r/boringdystopia

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean niles nasha??? beeja... 🤔 jaboku, lek... ah! niles NASHA 🤯😂 jajaja

@visakanv chesheshe 😅 tis pop daf boolo 🤷‍♀️

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Tjdriii So I guess it's a v similar dynamic, there's a thing in the other in uncomfy with, except the thing I'm trying to *make* them get is the conceptual possibility of progress in this domain, instead of trying to *make* them "wakeup"

@natural_hazard @Tjdriii ahh, yeah—that makes a lot of sense wanting someone to understand something can still be executed coercively but it does seem like the more central piece is just creating space for your *own* experience that measurable progress is possible you might like @Morphenius's stuff btw

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@davidfactorial oof idk about "without fear" haha fear itself is one of the things that needs embracing! and sure this is the only lesson though it will present itself a million ways:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated as it wants to be integrated.

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@davidfactorial reward is actually a backwards frame! this is one of the things that PCT makes obvious

Business Goose @busy_goose ·

Perceptual Control Theory is rad. It’s providing a surprisingly elegant framework for understanding a lot of what I’ve been noodling on recently.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@VivaLaPanda_ @BirdOfPlay_ @Malcolm_Ocean, you and I have often talked about what the word “deserve” means—it is tangly, yet we often found a use for it @VivaLaPanda_ has a good take to is: “deserve” as the expectations you allow yourself to receive/perceive/modulate to “simply have to decide for myself”

@AskYatharth @VivaLaPanda_ @BirdOfPlay_ deserve is broken and I've mostly tried not to use it at all in some sense, nobody deserves anything within that frame, one can also say to @BirdOfPlay_ "you don't deserve be unloved" this double negative expresses something important that some people don't realize

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Replying to 🕯Bird of Pray🕯 @BirdOfPlay_ ·

I am loved insofar as I add value of some kind - emotional support, material support, entertainment, a helping hand, whatever. "But you deserve unconditional love." Idk man, what the fuck does "deserve" even mean? You're talking Ought and I'm talking Is.

@BirdOfPlay_ do you *want* unconditional love? separate from whatever "deserve" means

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`rule 34 nigerian prince scam` ...no google results (no relevant ones, that is) I... don't know what to say.

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Replying to Tiago Forte @fortelabs ·

What made you decide to follow me?

@fortelabs I forget exactly but I loved your Throughput of Learning post so much. You were the central example of a person I wanted to connect with by getting back on twitter in 2017. I distinctly remember the moment.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

3/ I made a conscious decision in 2017 to get back on Twitter, inspired by a sense I had that if I tweaked my online behavior slightly, I could build all sorts of relationships with amazing people! And that has worked 🥰 (and we're just getting started)

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Retweeted @myceliummage

encouraging ppl is the shit

Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

At some level I don’t get casually religious people If you could save all your friends from hell by getting them to agree to a set of stories, why do anything else

@nickcammarata I grew up so progressively Christian that it was kinda nebulous whether hell was just a metaphor. As one datapoint. Not central tho probably.

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Retweeted @LordChisholm

Do you ever just have a reason for no reason?

Replying to @diviaprocessing

@diviaprocessing "Spot The Delivery" puzzle book for kids

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Subtle Q to answer as y/n. My true answer is something like "we should prioritize according to generator G, which allocates more money to space than currently but WAY more money to other specific earthly concerns than currently".

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

poll: what is your ~gender | do you think space colonization is a good thing for society to focus on rn or do you think society ought to focus on more earthly concerns (awkward phrasing but hopefully you get the idea)

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

poll: what is your ~gender | do you think space colonization is a good thing for society to focus on rn or do you think society ought to focus on more earthly concerns (awkward phrasing but hopefully you get the idea)

@QiaochuYuan I answered "no", but my real answer is "yes but also even more yes"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Subtle Q to answer as y/n. My true answer is something like "we should prioritize according to generator G, which allocates more money to space than currently but WAY more money to other specific earthly concerns than currently". twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…

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Society is vast, it will always need to focus on many things at once.

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Retweeted @visakanv

@Malcolm_Ocean "what is a good thing for society to focus on?" mu! sprat maes!! tikita pae!!! focus on what makes your heart…

Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF oh true maybe it's just that

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still haven't read this Remystifying Supply Chains article but I was at a large hardware store today and tripping out a bit boggling at where everything comes from and how it all somehow gets there so I think it's already working just from the title

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Haven't yet read this post he links partway down but—based on my enjoyment of his Welcome to the Future Nauseous—I expect I will! studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/remystifying…

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Retweeted @biancawelds

Ok, in just one week of using @CompliceGoals, I have managed to knock off one significant item on my larger todo list that…

Retweeted @m_ashcroft

Having Perceptual Control Theory running in the back of my mind is a little trippy. I was just straining a tea decoction t…

still makes me really happy to see results like this the system I made works! not for everyone and all the time but beautiful stuff keeps happening

Bianca Welds @biancawelds ·

Ok, in just one week of using @CompliceGoals, I have managed to knock off one significant item on my larger todo list that has been pending all year. It was important and I knew that but every time I started to work on it, I got sidetracked and told myself I’d get to it. 🙄

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hey @noahmacca, cool to see you around on twitter! curious what your new Newco business is 😀

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adding the keyword "supply chain" to this thread about various pieces of @vgr writing so I can find it later

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Retweeted @vgr

This thing by @komorama is excellent, gonna forward to some clients

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@vgr @komorama ok just read it and I co-sign, this is really good cc @Malcolm_Ocean cc everyone

@visakanv @vgr @komorama oooh this is cool I have some things I think will help with some of the elements, in the long-run (eg building an org entirely out of people who are world-class perspective-takers and interpersonal-friction-resolvers) but there are also lots of Qs I can't answer here

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if you only ever study where things don't work, you never have a working prototype study on the edge where things stop working but on the working side not the not-working side

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF yes, definitely, well put

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maybe the real giants' shoulders are the friends we made along the way

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Realized today reflecting on Geoffrey West's book Scale that in the last 70 years the terminal unit for ~wages has shifted from "the household" to "the individual" and this is probably good but kinda weird

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@RichDecibels but even there, "decreasing commitment" implies that the units you're talking about aren't stable enough to be a terminal unit terminal unit for electricity = wall socket, not house terminal unit for oxygen in a body = cell

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also noted that "wages"/"fungible income" is a pretty damn new invention, so while the household→individual shift is a pretty big deal in a more general sense, it's hardly as simple as "this long-held tradition is ending" don't let 50s jetsons/flintsones propaganda fool you 😉

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part of the current shift that's underway is plugging creators more directly into customers, so there isn't a big company allocating money to its employees, but a way more distributed/networked thing in the first place

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

There's a moment in the feral free agent journey, when you close the loop, when you have made something you love and someone bought it and you go "oh, I want to live like that!" A friend buying what you made is a good step, but it hits different when it's a stranger.

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question for roam/js hackers: how do I get the user's display name from roam/js? I assume there's a simple way to do this but brief inspecting & googling didn't find it @dvargas92495 @TfTHacker @adam_krivka #roam

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Retweeted @CarterA

Over a decade ago, my friend @joyurge and I taught each other to program by building a card game for the then-nascent iPhone a…

Replying to TfTHacker @TfTHacker ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @dvargas92495 @adam_krivka github.com/dvargas92495/r…

@TfTHacker @dvargas92495 @adam_krivka perfect, thanks! I guess not simple, but indeed already-solved

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Replying to james, the giant peach @JimmyRis ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I wonder if this concretes the societal shift from families to atomized individuals by shaping policy-influencing financial reporting infrastructure around the new terminal unit?

@JimmyRis some of the financial reporting stuff still is household-based I think the main diffs are just: - lots of people not married - default of two-income households

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Retweeted @fivesquareapp

*wakes up* whu… something's happening… *rubs icons* …Whoa, how long have I been out? We must be on iOS 7 by n—iOS 15?!…

there is no "the community"

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Replying to Five Square @fivesquareapp ·

*wakes up* whu… something's happening… *rubs icons* …Whoa, how long have I been out? We must be on iOS 7 by n—iOS 15?!? *looks down* Where's the home button?? And what's that line for on my toolbar? Speaking of which, I look awfully differen…😮 …am I being… updated? 🤩

@fivesquareapp this is delightful 😂 makes me want to tweet as the Complice app from @CompliceGoals wondering what that would look like

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@jonnym1ller @Malcolm_Ocean @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin Ask him to riff on the non naive trust dance! malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…

@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin We didn't get to much of this specifically, although we talked about a lot of the neurological underpinnings. My first 2 podcast appearances are heavy on this though if you haven't heard them yet! 1: joelightfoot.org/thelightfootpo…

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@jonnym1ller @Malcolm_Ocean @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin Also his experience with barn raising

@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin We talked about this! Talked about my whole chain of dominos in depth. (Also tons about PCT and how it relates to self-energizing motivation)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

one dimension along which I'm domino'ing [draft]

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Retweeted @beauhaan

FYI: @Malcolm_Ocean is the Beau Haan whisperer~ I'm grateful for you, and thank you for polishing out the rough sides of me—…

looking to get on the "do 100 things" train but unsure what you want to do 100 of? @thetracebrady can help you clarify that! it's Pay What You Want and even better, if you don't have money to contribute, lmk & I'll contribute on your behalf, in service of more people thriving ❤️‍🔥

tracebrady @thetracebrady ·

hey! do-100-things community! help me make this number go brrr! 👆🏼 calendly.com/findyourthing/…

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@Malcolm_Ocean "Let Go" = conscious (LH) decision "Let go" = actually 'letting go' (RH)

@jonnym1ller oooh, nice

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @FlowGenome btw. this does exist: elitehrv.com/corsense

@jonnym1ller @FlowGenome yeah there's monitors like that but they seem aggregatey... do any of them have the simple feedback loop of just making you aware of every single pulse?

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Retweeted @jonnym1ller

Resurfacing this tweet because I think it's powerful. Interoception > methodology

I take this to mean that cohesion means not treating other parts as externalities/away/places to dump entropy/problems. Curious if others have other words for it!

steven 🔜 cascade camp Aug 7-10 @_StevenFan ·

Cohesion does not mean uniformity. It means non-dissapative interface.

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Replying to Damon Sasi @DaystarEld ·

@davidfactorial Got a link for this? Would love to read more.

@DaystarEld @davidfactorial twitter.com/davidfactorial…

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

ʙʀᴏᴋᴇ: get psy-oped 𝓌𝑜𝓀𝑒: psy-op yourself twice 𝕓𝕖𝕤𝕡𝕠𝕜𝕖: undo the first psy-op in the first place

the idea of conditional love is based on the idea of keeping people deprived of love so that you can control them based on doling out love no other reason there can't be enough love to go around PCT makes clear why this is systematically confused & limited

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

There is no reason needed to love. That we need a reason is a societal psy-op to maintain locally optimal group norms for coordination.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

There is no reason needed to love. That we need a reason is a societal psy-op to maintain locally optimal group norms for coordination.

@AskYatharth

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the idea of conditional love is based on the idea of keeping people deprived of love so that you can control them based on doling out love no other reason there can't be enough love to go around PCT makes clear why this is systematically confused & limited twitter.com/AskYatharth/st…

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what's optimal scene density for an open network?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

What percentage of the people you follow follow @visakanv? Go to twitter.com/visakanv and see how many of the people you follow follow Visa = V Go to your own profile and see how many people you follow total = F divide Visa-followers by Followed-total V÷F =

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Replying to Andrew Conner @connerdelights ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nickcammarata Have you written about this? I was on the other side, everything 100% literal. It felt like a strong attraction point that was stable only if everything held, vs what I suppose is a weaker attraction that had fewer dependencies. How do you feel about it now?

@connerdelights @nickcammarata Nah, haven't written about it. Didn't really feel like I had much to say about it until seeing Nick's tweet and realizing it might offer a useful case study. I've gone through many phases since then, including atheistic and now more spiritualist again but not worshippy

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@sashintweets @GarrettPetersen @mesolude in those situations it's *true* that the optimal amount is not zero, but it usually goes without saying, hence the meaning being mostly relevant to situations where some people think it should actually be zero

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Replying to @diviaprocessing

@diviaprocessing I don't think I quite follow, but I'm curious

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Replying to ☉rthonormalist🧭✡️ @orthonormalist ·

@m_ashcroft (Going back even further - nothing I commented on at the time) lesswrong.com/posts/fGzPFwAo…

@orthonormalist @m_ashcroft yeah people have been staring at this thing for awhile! I get the sense people are more ripe for it now than a decade ago, given eg how PCT is profoundly relevant to the concept of non-coercion that's becoming increasingly popular in these parts

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Replying to @diviaprocessing

@diviaprocessing ahhhh of course yeah, might as well let the world know about deals you would love to make even if there might be no takers

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@davidfactorial @DaystarEld yeah, long-audio-listening tools are fucking shit and it's a crime this is something anyone could disrupt too, at least for podcasts, since they're open-access

Andrea @andreabrt ·

1/ There has been an increase in podcast content but zero improvements in the tools we use to consume them and parse their content. Here are a few predictions for tools that will be built in the near future:

quoting @AdamDraper: While listening to podcasts, I would love to press a button the marks moments and then just sends me a clip of the abbreviated moments after I’m done.

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Replying to shill 🔍 @acidshill ·

@Malcolm_Ocean there is no society, only individuals and families, fight me

@acidshill nah there's a whole big messy fractal

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Replying to 🙃 ɐʇǝɯ - 𝐿𝓊𝓁𝒾𝑒 💜🐱 @metaLulie ·

@jonnym1ller @m_ashcroft @Malcolm_Ocean +1

@metaLulie @jonnym1ller @m_ashcroft it made the reasons why coercion works less well than noncoercion obvious rather than seeming like something more moral or aesthetic I wrote a bit about my early explorations in this post: malcolmocean.com/2017/06/toward…

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

If you had a sandwich that didn’t disappear when you ate it, would it be more or less enjoyable?

@meekaale I actually just want the first bite of a sandwich, every time

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one thing that's fun about complice.co is that it encourages you to write down not just what you're planning to do but also all the spontaneous things you did, tagging it with what big picture goals you made some progress on by doing those things

David Perell @david_perell ·

The problem with obsessing over productivity is that the kind of curiosity that leads to big breakthroughs rarely feels productive in the moment

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Retweeted @paulg

Kids will increasingly learn technology direct from other kids. This video by an Indonesian kid teaching other kids how to write…

Replying to The Faily Show @thefailyshow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean What’s its privacy guarantee?

@thefailyshow you can set privacy for all of your data on a per-goal basis, with options of: - only me - me & my partner - inner circle - outer circle - any logged-in user - anyone there isn't E2EE though so if you need that then you'll have to find another journalling system

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Replying to R. Furters @humanisque ·

@natural_hazard is this actually true outside the realm of all-or-nothing optimizations? "you can't coerce people into non-coercion" seems like a thing that is claimed as successful fairly frequently (e.g. civil war, police, etc)

@humanisque @natural_hazard

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

you can’t bully someone into being a good person because you simply reinforce that bullying is how you get things done

quoting @hankgreen: I just feel like being an asshole to an asshole actually makes them more of an asshole.

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Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman

The predominant, authoritarian-empiricist versions of this discourse focus on identity groups rather than perspectives a…

*la reine 😅

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untangle the patriarchy

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> you can't get people to do more than play status games by winning the status game I've been trying to convey this to some people recently and it's been remarkably difficult

Hazard @natural_hazard ·

you can't fix the problems of mass movements by making a mass movement you can't coerce people into non-coercion you can't get people to do more than play status games by winning the status game

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one failure mode is an urge to try to have the last word to want to WIN at the old game, then tear it apart... but the old game is a win-lose game, so to win at it you need others to lose, which *strengthens* the fight

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

It seems very clear to me that the nonviolence of the metaphor "dissolve" is structurally necessary for any change-attempt to actually creating something other than the patriarchy. Otherwise it's just "le roi est mort, vive le reine" twitter.com/RichDecibels/s…

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another failure mode is focusing on the what (the end) and not the how (the means) if you're trying to transform the means themselves, nothing can justify using any means other than the means you're aiming to create

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

you can’t bully someone into being a good person because you simply reinforce that bullying is how you get things done

quoting @hankgreen: I just feel like being an asshole to an asshole actually makes them more of an asshole.

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defending yourself against defensiveness is very tempting (and sometimes necessary) and will always create more defensiveness

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The paradox I'm currently in love with: 1. existing culture is fucked up in ways I'll collectively call "A" 2. "A" is trying to fuck you up 3. "A" = "people trying to protect from being fucked up by A" 4. thus to shift "A" to "B", one must protect against "A" without protecting

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

you can't fix the problems of mass movements by making a mass movement you can't coerce people into non-coercion you can't get people to do more than play status games by winning the status game

@natural_hazard a thread:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

> you can't get people to do more than play status games by winning the status game I've been trying to convey this to some people recently and it's been remarkably difficult twitter.com/natural_hazard…

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oh snap, a skill-tree for vibing

rob hardy @ungatedlife ·

you guys, i think something magical just happened in @Ultraspeaking

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Retweeted @ungatedcreative

this is my mission too, but for creative work and marketing and online business let's move to the right, y'all

Replying to rob hardy @ungatedlife ·

ok, i just put my finger on why i have such a hard time saying "gm" in group chats it rarely feels like an earnest expression of saying good morning to your homies. instead, it feels like explicit (and mandatory) signaling that you're in some trendy ingroup

@ungatedcreative if you feel like you have to, it sucks period

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Retweeted @ungatedcreative

i've been struggling to articulate my vision for how online business/marketing can feel all year, and @m_ashcroft just…

> Ungated is an oasis for creatives who want to earn an independent living online, without being spammy, manipulative marketers. — @ungatedcreative - ungated.media/about/ reminds me of this cross-pollination concept me & @m_ashcroft came up with:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

TL;DR of cross-pollination thing is to have a bunch of people running online courses etc have recorded conversations with each other about how their systems/practices/etc interrelate and support each other, then put those convos in the courses. high-bandwidth hyperlink twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Update: I now have a Complice goal called "The Thing"

Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I started writing things like "The Thing" (knowing what I meant by that) rather than "Inspire others by producing content that encourages authenticity and positive collaboration" (which was almost but not quite what I meant, and the "not quite" was enough to make it teachery)

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Replying to Edward Saperia @edsaperia ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I don’t want to be around people who speak before they know what they’re going to say 😒

@edsaperia I think "know what you're going to say" has 2 meanings, and I agree with you for one of them & not for the other. I think @Ultraspeaking practices both in parallel, but ultimately people who are intending to speak meaningful things will speak meaningfully, even if no pre-planning

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @meekaale For pretty much all sandwiches I've made, the first bite is less good the middle ones! Bread to filling ratio usually higher on the edges

@SarahAMcManus @meekaale you gotta make your sandwiches have more abundant contents, methinks

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@connerdelights yes! when?? @Malcolm_Ocean why doesn’t this exist??

@AskYatharth @connerdelights

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The bottleneck is unquestioned assumptions about both the problemspace and the solutionspace.

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Replying to @hornydiscogirl

@holydiscogirl there's a bot that can do it if you @-mention it in the replies but I forget the name of it

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I basically have one underlying principle, which is that I just do whatever I think is interesting. Everything else i come up with on the fly if necessary. Sometimes a lil timeboxing. Sometimes I make lists. But 95% of the time I do whatever seems most compelling

@visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

it's funny when people see I built a productivity app and then they think I'll be on top of to-dos all GTD-style I just do what I feel like and Complice is a way to remind myself what I feel like

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Retweeted @ShitUserStory

As an... – excel user I want to... – have fractions automatically converted to dates so that... – I can spend 01-Oct of…

Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @meekaale Since I heard about @m_ashcroft 's 3 second rule I just do a quick awareness check after every bite, and then it's kinda like the first bite all over again 😃

@made_in_cosmos @meekaale @m_ashcroft

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how to talk so users will listen and listen so users will talk

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Replying to 🌱 John Ash 🌳 @speakerjohnash ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I have a distaste for the word users

@speakerjohnash me too, *sigh*

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

I finally got my watercolors back and I really missed them and I made this today

@this_is_silvia can't tell if I want to be turned on looking at this 😅

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Retweeted @meditationstuff

I’ve been trying to concisely gloss a particular rampant, self-reinforcing, and corrosive “philosophy,” for a while, a…

Replying to @taalumot

@taalumot @RichDecibels

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

On the original content level: "if you think conscientious people shouldn't have children, you're saying the world should be inherited by unconscientious people (memetically and/or genetically)" It's an obviously self-defeating strategy under how evolution actually works.

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Replying to @m_altcroft

@m_altcroft ❤️‍🔥 would be cool to see this tweeted about on some level on main too, I think, to stoke the fires of other prospective feral free agents' excitement (although for many people it won't be as quick—you had a lot of kindling ready to burn)

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@captain_mrs x.com/meekaale/statu…

@meekaale @captain_mrs I would love if you guys gave some suggestions for things to call Complice's goals other than "goals". I have some ideas in this thread but I didn't come to any conclusions.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Realization: the way I relate to my goals on complice.co is… kinda like ritual magic. Basically by naming & enumerating the main careabouts I'm moving towards, I create affordances for invoking them as sources of motivation & clarity. 🧙‍♂️✨ Thread on naming goals 🧵

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Replying to @grantadever

@grantadever a bitcoin is a pretty arbitrary amount. they subdivide down to satoshis, which is 8 decimal places so that's like 230,000 per person which is probably enough resolution for bitcoin as a storage unit (wouldn't work for micropayments)

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Retweeted @captain_mrs

Update: since refactoring my goals to be much more vague like this a month ago I've been finding it much easier to integra…

@tmaworks @itsLuciKeller Yeah, it's possible to use a credit card while only ever buying things you already have the money to pay off. (At one point I was managing to make the money to pay it off in the weeks between buying & the bill payment... still zero fees but kinda stressful & not recommended 😬)

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

.@tasshinfogleman and I met up the other day in Austin. Guess what we talked about?

@jonathandubin @tasshinfogleman twitter

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Replying to David Perell @david_perell ·

I love when writers narrate their own audiobooks because even if the recording isn't as "professional," it has so much more soul when you hear from the actual author

@david_perell yeah I was so sad to discover that the Master and his Emissary audiobook isn't narrated by Iain McGilchrist. He has such a lovely voice 🥰

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Replying to David Perell @david_perell ·

I love when writers narrate their own audiobooks because even if the recording isn't as "professional," it has so much more soul when you hear from the actual author

@david_perell @GretchenAMcC has an epic thread of her experience reading her book on internet linguistics, including discussion of how to deal with the pronounciation of "gif" or keysmash (adslkfhasdf etc) some unique challenges there that she was best equipped-for

Gretchen McCulloch now at @gretchenmcc.bsky.social @GretchenAMcC ·

I think I'm going to need a thread of #BecauseInternet audiobook recording thoughts, so let's just start that here

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Replying to Austen Allred @Austen ·

I wish people could see how ugly it is to be envious, and how obvious it is to those around you when that’s what’s happening. There’s not much uglier than trying to tear someone down because they achieved what you wish you had.

@Austen I found that watching the ContraPoints video helped me notice a few situations in which I'd been envious (and cloaked it up as contempt) youtube.com/watch?v=aPhrTO…

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Replying to Grant Dever 🌄 @grantadever ·

@Malcolm_Ocean sorry that I baited an earnest response 🥴

@grantadever nah it was helpful it actually helped underscore for me that there *isn't* enough to do small payments, which wasn't obvious to me before I did the math

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Replying to Grant Dever 🌄 @grantadever ·

@Malcolm_Ocean hmmm if every Bitcoin becomes worth an immense amount, such that you can no longer do any small payments, then I think expanding decimals would be something you could get consensus on it's not a change to the supply or fundamental mechanism

@grantadever it's kinda fundamental; I didn't look into it too hard but it sounds like the bits required to represent lower precision is part of the core structure

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Retweeted @MsMelChen

2020: I have friends who voted for The Other Guy and I treat them the same as the friends who voted for My Guy 2021: I have…

Replying to ☉rthonormalist🧭✡️ @orthonormalist ·

@selentelechia @eigenrobot Which type? :D

@orthonormalist @selentelechia @eigenrobot @LordChisholm got me into West Coast Swing this year and it's great has a very satisfyingly fluid & consistent physics rather than being a bunch of move sequences, it's on a lower control system level youtube.com/watch?v=kDnTRp…

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@visakanv do you have a list anywhere of people solving problems via tweeting? this should be atop it

Ryan Petersen @typesfast ·

Update: The city of LB just announced it has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations. Thank you everybody who called the governor and the mayor to request. They got the message, you can stop now...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

quoting @typesfast: Yesterday I rented a boat and took the leader of one of Flexport's partners in Long Beach on a 3 hour of the port complex. Here's a thread about what I learned.

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Retweeted @patio11

The most interesting thread you'll read on Twitter today, on debugging the supply chain bottleneck, which (per the thread) is…

Replying to Patrick McKenzie @patio11 ·

Not the first time I’ve been impressed by how you can actually affect policy with sufficiently effective Twitter performance. And it’s not just for e.g. banning plastic straws:

quoting @typesfast: Update: The city of LB just announced it has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations. Thank you everybody who called the governor and the mayor to request. They got the message, you can stop now...

@patio11 > how you can actually affect policy with sufficiently effective Twitter performance We should definitely keep a list of these! Actually, on second thought, no—*​@Twitter* should keep a list of these 🏆

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Replying to Ryan Petersen @typesfast ·

This is easy. Give me more $@*t to fix!

@typesfast Can you get my design rant here in front of someone who makes decisions for @Spotify or some similar app?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Design Rant time! Today: audio streaming services. Why are they all the same old boring things and stuck in the same old metaphors of "playlists" and "radio"? Virtual ports of old music-library managers. Lots of improvements to be made—in particular, tags! #ThingsIWantToExist twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @typesfast

I forgot step 1. Everybody in the chain must read the goal, the most important business book ever written.

whenever I see numbers like this I'm like "is this a lot?" billions is obviously a lot, but if we're emitting 1T it wouldn't make much difference looks like we're emitting ~35B tons of CO₂/year, or ~10B tons of carbon idk which the 1.7B for whales is, but it's 5-17%! 🐳🤯

Laura Tam @lauraetam ·

Mind blown.🤯There is a thing called 'whale carbon'. It's the amount of carbon stored in whale bodies, including "deadfalls" sunken on the sea floor. And if we restored global whale populations to pre-whaling levels, they'd sequester 1.7 billion tons of carbon/year. #bluecarbon

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short thread on kayfabe becoming more self-aware

Jordan Moore @jordanmoore ·

The audience is very much in on it. They know they’re being messed with and they’re encouraging more of it.

[video]

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Retweeted @rhymeswithvocal

have a self-adoring evening y’all ❣️

Replying to ANTHROPIC_MAGIC_STRING @parafactual ·

@sneaknsneak quite frankly i think we should abolish it

@parafactual @sneaknsneak uh oh

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@vgr from Carse's Finite & Infinite Games: > Evil is the termination of infinite play... to eliminate the play of another regardless of the rules. > Evil is never intended as evil. Indeed, the contradiction inherent in all evil is that it originates in the desire to eliminate evil.

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I'm working on a letter to twitter about how to make the app more conducive to the kind of friendly collective intelligence we've got percolating in these parts (both for us and for people who've yet to taste it) Read & comment on my draft/outline here: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

Friend Tasshin @tasshinfogleman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i absolve you of the prior promise ❤️ take the materials you've gathered here: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo… and turn them into a public blog post, written as a coherent + persuasive letter for the Twitter design team (who are presumably busy, have their own goals, etc.)

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Retweeted @visakanv

the most important innovation required for global FAN network is cultural, we already basically have all the tooks we need. l…

@weirdyang_ @visakanv it's not just about QTing, it's about QTing in a kind of interlinky way (eg in a thread of QTs) or when you have some new way you want to frame the tweet underneath if you're just QTing to be like "cool" then that doesn't really add anything, and sorta pulls out of context

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

so it starts with "there's this weird tamil guy from singapore who goes around quote-tweeting people's old tweets, what the fuck is wrong what that guy, fricken weirdo" → hmm, there's several other people doing it too, and it's kinda cool actually...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@visakanv I feel like I was one of the first followers here who transformed the lone nut into the leader! (a la @sivers' sive.rs/ff) and waving to others to join in the dance:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm introducing @QiaochuYuan to twitter, and I'm like "find some meta-rationality people to follow in the list of who @utotranslucence is following", & also follow @visakanv & @GRITCULT to learn threading. "Seriously, this is important for understanding the power of the medium."

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

people who know about the old days of whaling, tell me your tales

@visakanv there once was a ship that put to sea... youtube.com/watch?v=zDTaeq…

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Replying to cam @Empathy2000 ·

What are your top love languages?

@empathy2000 design

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

my love language is design

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

It’s rather shocking to me how little people care whether we live in a multiverse or not

@nickcammarata it seems important but I'm sort of not sure what it would imply similarly, just knowing we're "in a simulation" doesn't tell us much insofar as all of the laws of physics hold up immaculately & we know nothing about who is simulating us or why or if they even know we're in here

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF I used to have a section at the start which opened "you should switch to subscription revenue instead of ad revenue, which will make you more money and align your incentives more with what you say you care about" but @visakanv suggested leaving out that part so it's at the bottom

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @meekaale Omg what if new users got prompted to decide what to call it (including being offered a list of suggestions) and could change it at any time when the word gets inevitably poisoned by self-coercion???

@captain_mrs @meekaale ooooooh that's a cool idea. and kinda wouldn't be any harder than just re-hardcoding it something else would make support hella confusing (it's already confusing when users call their intentions-for-today goals, which happens fairly often)

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@meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial which also points at how "reference level" kind of refers to the thing, but it's hardly a natural word it's WEIRD we don't have clean natural words to refer to things like "reference levels" or "errors", given that they are in some sense the most fundamental phenomena we know

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Just played askhole.io card game by @Aella_Girl & @rothosphere—pretty good! discovered I have way more nuanced views on bestiality than I thought 🤔🐬 curious to know which manufacturer y'all use for the cards—I know someone looking to make some

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial I always use intention for this, or to make it more PCT-y I might say 'intended state'

@m_ashcroft @meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial right, that would get a bit weird with Complice using "intention" for the day-sized thing, although it does seem right "aim"

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @visakanv that ain't gonna happen unless the competitor is actually better, which is pretty hard to achieve given that the main draw of twitter is that everyone's on here main possibility would be more the reverse, where you lure pros to an app they're willing to pay for that integrates

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rather than trying to force yourself to behave in particular ways, see if you can set up your environment so that the sorts of behaviors you'll tend to have will easefully result in stuff you love (won't work if you end up fighting the environment, to be clear) twitter.com/NatCouropmitre…

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Replying to @sashachapin

@sashachapin

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Replying to 🎭 @deepfates ·

want to tell me roughly what type of wealth your portfolio is in? mine is like 2/3 crypto 1/3 USD right now. I'm thinking of putting some of it into stocks tho

@deepfates 60% crypto 30% fiat 10% stonks (the fiat is split between CAD (which is what I spend) and USD (which is what Complice bills in) and a lil EUR (which I got some from a contract a few years back and am holding to diversify a lil))

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I saw an article somewhere a year or 3 ago (on rationalist tumblr?) about how vilifying men's desire ends up vilifying women's desire too trying to find it for a bisexual ladyfriend dealing with a structural thing that I think it might be helpful for lmk if you have leads!

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

What does 'rest' mean to you in your life?

@jonnym1ller catching my breath which happens in tiny moments and in large chunks:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've kept up a weekly "day off" most weeks since April, and it's been such an amazing habit. It continues being pretty much what I wrote below: - no preplanned anything - no browser tabs to start the day Thread of reflections so far: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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coding day Thursday, see y'all Friday! 👋 gonna work on whatever I feel like out of 4 half-to-mostly-finished projects (all part of @CompliceGoals) - service workers (full offline) - custom end-of-day Qs - Now Page - metacognition module - (or something else?)

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Replying to Anne-Lorraine 🍀 @AnneSelke ·

Need more love languages than the standard 5 (gifts, time, words, touch, acts of service). What's your custom addition?

@AnneSelke

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

my love language is design

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Replying to Anne-Lorraine 🍀 @AnneSelke ·

Leafing through old notebooks. Reply for 1 mysterious note previous-me scribbled down for current-me to find & share with you!

@AnneSelke oooooh I am interesting! *interested but I thought I'd leave the 3am typo because funny

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Replying to @SnazzyLabs

@SnazzyQ My take is that somehow, despite Apple having many designers on staff, nobody designed this. Almost nothing is actually designed.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I used to lament that things were so poorly designed. (I have the eye—I can't not see it. It's a gift and a curse.) But then I realized that it's much more accurate to say that most things weren't designed at all.

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Retweeted @visakanv

I'd rank myself as one of the most vocab-flexible people I know. I think @Malcolm_Ocean gets it too. the critical insight to…

@AskYatharth not exactly a right, but like, it is a reasonable thing to want to have and stopping yourself from having it is probably gonna fuck you up

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Replying to @josephholsten@mstdn.social @josephholsten ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I keep spare copies of Carse’s Finite & Infinite Games to give folks.

@josephholsten Beautiful

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

if books were gods, in the pantheonic sense, which gods have you made the most offerings to? offerings might include 📖 - re-reading - buying friend copies - seeking out despite inconveniences - ensuring that digital copies exist - tweeting screenshots/quotes - writing a summary twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Ongoingly-updated thread about why I think UBI is obviously the thing to do. (Without implying I or anyone knows how to implement it perfectly or that it would be easy.) Am interested in getting both supporting takes and "but what about?" takes, to refine my position here!

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Thread · What are the intrinsic reference levels in Perceptual Control Theory?

One question very present in my mind as I dive back into Perceptual Control Theory:  what are all the intrinsic reference levels? Classic: temperature, water, salt, hunger, sex Necessary: proteins, micronutrients, Speculative: meaning, belonging, dignity, beauty

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(For people not familiar with "intrinsic reference levels", it's essentially referring to "fundamental preset variables the bodymind measures and will reorganize behavior as long as certain values aren't met") twitter.com/SimianSeminar/…

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I'm particularly interested in intrinsic reference levels that humans or primates might have that other mammals wouldn't have. It does seem to me like there are likely at least a few of these, related to social organization and so on—the speculative ones above.

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I even speculated in my notes recently that psychopathy might be due to a missing intrinsic reference level, which results in certain capacities (eg empathy) not being developed, instead of those capacities being missing directly. (Extremely speculative! I have no idea!)

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I guess people have tried to make a list of innate drives or needs or something... that might be one place to start for examples. Although I expect many of them would sort of be on the wrong level of abstraction/hierarchy.

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Replying to SLIME MOLD TIME MOLD @mold_time ·

@SimianSeminar Maybe start with his 1973 paper in Science. It's short and sweet and gives good historical context for his theory, i.e. it was conceived of as a response against behaviorism Powers' book is a more complete picture but it's much longer and a much harder read

@mold_time @SimianSeminar I'd recommend starting with his later book Making Sense of Behavior if you can track down a copy! this tweet below inspired by this exchange above

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

One question very present in my mind as I dive back into Perceptual Control Theory:  what are all the intrinsic reference levels? Classic: temperature, water, salt, hunger, sex Necessary: proteins, micronutrients, Speculative: meaning, belonging, dignity, beauty

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Thread · Sketch of a political platform for an ideal Canadian party · 5 of 28 tweets

🧵 a sketch of a political platform for my ideal party, which doesn't remotely exist in Canada. (inspired by reading @HFreinacht's excellent 2nd book The Nordic Ideology, combined with a recent federal election in Canada in which I felt really dissatisfied with all the parties)

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The main idea I had for this before was totally meta—a Dialogue Party, whose local candidates would host extended conversations among other local candidates and the public, to encourage perspective-taking and win-wins & clarify local priorities.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Discourse everywhere about elections continues to avoid remarking on the background assumption that it's fundamentally made out of fighting, not dialogue. Win-lose, not win-win. This is a common effect of 2 party politics, but not inherent.

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But I think I have a few strong object-level opinions as well, and that it would be also worth articulating my best guess for policy in other areas. In other words, what party platform would I love to vote for? (This is gonna assume Canada, but lots would generalize ofc 🇨🇦🌎)

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My longest-held policy-level opinion is still pretty meta, which is the need for electoral reform. At BARE MINIMUM we should simply switch our riding-based voting to be ranked choice / STV instead of 1-vote first-past-the-post. This encourages independents & attuned newcomers.

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My latest clarity is the need for UBI (Universal Basic Income) Trying to force companies to pay better doesn't work as well as giving citizens way better BATNAs, which would necessitate companies to get *creative* about making their jobs more attractive!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Ongoingly-updated thread about why I think UBI is obviously the thing to do. (Without implying I or anyone knows how to implement it perfectly or that it would be easy.) Am interested in getting both supporting takes and "but what about?" takes, to refine my position here!

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it's a fucking tragedy that @GitHub's forks aren't easier to search. Some projects with 3k forks and it's like, someone has probably made the tweak I want to make already and I have no way to find it. Needs search, tagging, & ranking of forks, as a minimum.

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oooh this is a cool diagram by @rfinz with a 2×2 of Trust & Intensity and their shadow sides

Raymond @rfinz ·

letters.rfinz.me/issues/trust-x… a letter to you all about trust and intensity—with some of the recent talk about high-demand orgs as well as more quotidian ills such as alienation and restlessness, I think adding shared understanding of what trust means at a personal level is worthwhile

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ever been so tired you forget to take your contacts out? 🙄 me just now: so tired I tried to take them out when I wasn't wearing them today in the first place 😅 (my eye is a lil uncomfy but okay)

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

A tool that asks you to match anonymous tweets and authors from your follows/followers/mutuals, to help you calibrate how well you know your people. Also, you can see a leaderboard of your follows/followers/mutuals after you play. Who wants it?

@ricvolpe oooooh that would be fun! I'd imagine it shows you a tweet, and you WIN BIG if you can just guess the author directly, or you can push a button and it'll give you 4 options to pick from

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Retweeted @JamieCombs

Whatever it is —- 1. It’s mysterious 2. It’s multidimensional 3. You’re an influential part of it —- You gonna play with…

"Post a pic YOU took (no description) to bring some zen to the timeline"

Wendell Britt 博闻道 (🍇) @wendell_britt ·

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean there it's also very nuanced so e.g. it's not only about desiring an optimal neutral temperature, we tend to feel better when there is a little bit of draft or chill but with a radiant heat source like a fireplace

@meekaale

Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @rfinz Oh yeah I was running around and toddler was both running away from me to explore and also coming back to me and I thought attachment and independence are also fundamental reference points for PCT

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Replying to Marie @mesolude ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what's the best book on PCT?

@mesolude

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@michael_nielsen Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control is an amazing dense clear layperson summary of Perceptual Control Theory sadly out of print, but you might be able to find a copy somewhere

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Replying to @warrenmansell

@warrenmansell @iapct @EvadeHullu Ooooh, the connection to temperament seems like a good one to make. Or something on that front.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist status x.com/AskYatharth/st…

quoting @AskYatharth: There’s a little status counter in the back of all our heads. It evolved for a really good reason. It tracks how close we are to getting kicked out it the tribe. High-status: can get away with more. Low-status: just trying to hang on.

@AskYatharth @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist oooh I like this framing of status counter as being about safety-in-the-tribe rather than dominance per se part of what was so huge about MeToo is it upended the weightings on how much of some kinds of status allows someone to get away with violations along other dimensions

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Replying to Dan Lucraft @danlucraft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @github Try this by @gilesgoatboy forkfreshness.com/Shopify/active…

@danlucraft @github @gilesgoatboy oooh! yeah @ForkFreshness looks cool but doesn't solve my particular problem where the original project is alive & well but I just disagree with one of their design decisions

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(in case it wasn't clear, this is what prompted Canada to design its own flag, which I think is one of the best in the world in terms of simplicity (you can draw it) but also originality as a flag and as a symbol more generally (it's not just a few colored bars))

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vaguely musing about this for Canada and I'm really not sure what it would be 🇨🇦 we're not a particularly patriotic bunch though there were definitely some Room Where It Happens moments around the time of Canadian Confederation back in the day 🤔 ⚜️ Quebec probably has some 😅

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

is there any like really patriotic English/British movie? what’s the UK’s Hamilton? Not sure if it’s important to make a distinction between 🇬🇧 and 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 here, I’m curious to hear both. And I suppose also 🇮🇪 and 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and so on

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growing up I remember feeling vaguely proud of Canada's role as peacekeepers but I don't recall being aware of any popular media on the topic

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Huh, bit of history I didn't know! (1950s) > Egyptian government objected to Canadian peacekeeping forces on the grounds that the Canadian flag (the Red Ensign 👇) contained the same symbol (the Union Flag) also used as a flag by the United Kingdom, one of the belligerents (!) twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

what songs inspire humility in you

@AskYatharth in the context of relationships: youtube.com/watch?v=nTvJC3…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

what songs inspire humility in you

@AskYatharth some of Josh Groban's songs, particularly River there's a quality of surrender, "I don't got this but it's maybe okay anyway" youtube.com/watch?v=-DE19K…

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

what songs inspire humility in you

Retweeted @michaelcurzi

Thoughts on @eigenrobot

Replying to 𝖒𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖊𝖑𝖈𝖚𝖗𝖟𝖎 @michaelcurzi ·

Thoughts on @eigenrobot

[video]

@michaelcurzi @eigenrobot my philosophy on likes 👇 which also leads me to like a lot of tweets (though still not all)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

A ♥️ isn't agreement, it's "am I glad this tweet exists?" Replying to a tweet is likely to produce another tweet from the same generator. ✅ jamming & co-creation🥰🙃🥳 ✅ misunderstanding that feels good to clarify 🧐🤓😎 ⛔️ fussing on fiddlybits 🤨🙄😒 ⛔️ angry arguing 😡😤😵

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Replying to ℝeallyℝadley @ReallyRadley ·

@orthonormalist @selentelechia Where should we laymen start?

@ReallyRadley @orthonormalist @selentelechia Making Sense of Behavior was explicitly written as a general public introduction! "I’m writing this book as I would write to a friend"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@michael_nielsen Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control is an amazing dense clear layperson summary of Perceptual Control Theory sadly out of print, but you might be able to find a copy somewhere

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv I just started PCT-pilling myself today but it seems really interesting

@meekaale @nosilverv was I upstream of you checking out PCT? I try to keep track of how my book-recommendation influence spreads 😎

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Replying to @nat_sharpe_

@nat_sharpe_ oooh, gorgeous

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist as the prevarications of the mobs could now push anyone over the cliff, even people who felt they’d earned some right to not be pushed off but earlier they were so secure they could in fact get away with great abuse

@AskYatharth @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist huh, I think this also explains some un-ease among ordinary men something like "if a man's millions can't keep him from losing his career from grooming his subordinates, maybe the positive regard from my friends won't keep me safe if I have a shitty hookup and she gets angry"

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Replying to @magghu

@magghu just very gently but yes

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@AskYatharth @Malcolm_Ocean to be clear, I was always looking beyond the cliff, even as a child lol

@visakanv @AskYatharth I think I was trying to see over the cliff as a kid but it wasn't until I was about 20 and got introduce to some ideas that are isomorphic to Game B (framed as "collaborative cultures instead of coercive") that I actually had the viewpoint to see beyond humanity's leading edge

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

@Malcolm_Ocean the question is... do you? 😈

@this_is_silvia ...I think not quite! it seems very close to something that might turn me on tho

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @Aella_Girl @rothosphere oooh nice @missrachelreads this might be a thing for your project!

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Replying to @m_altcroft

@m_altcroft one version would simply be without the actual $ amounts like the original tweet but without the image and the first parenthetical

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the framing of "outcomes" at the end of the day already kind of gets at that it's not just "what did you do" it's like "what progress was made?"

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial but yeah 'to set an intention', which is a phrase I use all the time, basically means 'flash the idea of the reference perception in your mind in such a way as to allow your system to orient itself towards that perception'

@m_ashcroft @meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

hmmm makes me wonder if Complice could do better at encouraging intention-setting to be state-oriented rather than behavior oriented twitter.com/m_ashcroft/sta…

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Replying to 🌱 John Ash 🌳 @speakerjohnash ·

The most important video you will see today and possibly many days retweet please youtu.be/OFnoubr_V0k

@speakerjohnash hm, feels like I'm missing some of the context! can you say what questions you think I would have that this video answers? ("how does the cognicist token work?" doesn't count because I didn't have that one until I watched the first minute of the video)

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Replying to Rob Haisfield @RobertHaisfield ·

Anybody know of any startup foundries operating as a DAO? idk why but @Malcolm_Ocean I get a feeling you might know about this or have looked into it.

@RobertHaisfield makes me think of inc.one who has this ledger rdollar.one not sure if it's actually blockchain-based but they seem on the right track along some dimensions

Jim Goodman @jimgoodman ·

@ericjwoo @davemcclure Agreed, that’s why we’ve built a “digital kibbutz”, literally a co-op that’s not just a community/studio/incubator, but invests in people and ideas, tracks 6 types of capital, not just financial (network capital, social capital, intellectual, etc.) Called inc.one

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Replying to Rob Haisfield @RobertHaisfield ·

Anybody know of any startup foundries operating as a DAO? idk why but @Malcolm_Ocean I get a feeling you might know about this or have looked into it.

@RobertHaisfield would tag @SpencrGreenberg since he's got a startup foundry thus might be likely to be aware of others or have looked into this

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Replying to Rob Haisfield @RobertHaisfield ·

Anybody know of any startup foundries operating as a DAO? idk why but @Malcolm_Ocean I get a feeling you might know about this or have looked into it.

@RobertHaisfield appreciating the tag! from my vantage point we're slightly too early for DAOs to actually be the right way to organize it, but that'll shift in the next few years my 10-year vision involves something like a startup meta-foundry operating in a fairly DAOist manner

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an excerpt of a vision document I have that describes one use I see for blockchain as a way to guarantee support even if relationships break down, directly-structurally rather than by invoking legal contracts that could be messy to enforce still lots of details to figure out

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Replying to Anne-Lorraine 🍀 @AnneSelke ·

@Malcolm_Ocean You get 2! "If they got squished bring them to a soft place. Their decision making power might be impeded rn." "The hero must die. But he can choose how."

@AnneSelke wow, I love both of these

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Like parents, but like . . . forever, man.

@AskYatharth yeah, except with people also learning how to create real wealth

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

In order to do UBI in a way that supports creativity, we might need to also have tons of training/support for how real wealth-creation works, so people don't get preoccupied with fairness of distribution and are able to shift their attention to creating more abundance for all

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the lesson: if you want something to go viral, have a ton of people QT it to express how surprised they are by how viral it's going free signal-boosts cf "you are not stuck in traffic, you are traffic" twitter.com/Very__Regular/…

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Replying to @Very__Regular

@ActNormalOrElse props for collecting this excellent case study of people not understanding how they *are* the very phenomenon they are confused about

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the lesson: if you want something to go viral, have a ton of people QT it to express how surprised they are by how viral it's going free signal-boosts cf "you are not stuck in traffic, you are traffic" twitter.com/Very__Regular/…

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Beautiful quotes from the first few minutes of @jack's 2019 interview on @JoeRogan, talking about how @Twitter was *discovered* in the emergent behaviors of the people using it.

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"and Visa just announced that Micah will be its first sponsored artist" definitely clicked on that announcement expecting it to be a @visakanv tweet 😂

Packy McCormick @packyM ·

Throughout history, certain time-place combinations have been astonishingly more productive than the rest. We're living through one of them: the world's first internet-native, global-scale Scenius. WAGMI notboring.co/p/sc3nius

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makes more sense probably if you hung out on Weird Sun Twitter back in the day and saw people using "as" & noun phrases

Chamber Of Heart @ChamberOf_Heart ·

"Millennials" as thousand-year-old beings, steeped in ancient wisdom, who have absolutely perfected their brand.

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@packyM tagging the scenius folks: @Prigoose @__drewface @TylerAlterman @jasoncbenn

@jonathandubin @packyM @Prigoose @__drewface @TylerAlterman @jasoncbenn add me to your list of "the scenius folks" pronto! and also @visakanv ofc

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

one of my recurring talking points to anybody who's willing to listen: any small group of people loosely-but-truly aligned on something can create powerful vectors by producing public-facing work that's directed at each other talking about the creation of scenes, basically

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Throughout history, certain time-place combinations have been astonishingly more productive than the rest. We're living throu…

Replying to Packy McCormick @packyM ·

Throughout history, certain time-place combinations have been astonishingly more productive than the rest. We're living through one of them: the world's first internet-native, global-scale Scenius. WAGMI notboring.co/p/sc3nius

@packyM @jgreenhall talks about this tipping point in his Civium series. Summary of the overall idea, including a core network theory insight in this thread:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Cities are attractors because of superlinear real-productivity scaling. Now that we can do collaboration with anyone in the world, we can have a single global virtual city. Then way less need to pack tightly! = summary of @jgreenhall's Civium concept 🧵👇 youtube.com/watch?v=yXBAtd…

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Replying to Étienne @etiennefd ·

@Malcolm_Ocean It’s a thing that I’ve been thinking about quite a bit actually. I wrote a whole novel on being unable to create fun and popular media about our national history Doesn’t help that our history is basically getting conquered and exploited and then failing to become a country lol

@etiennefd I guess I'm mostly thinking that Quebec has more of a sense of cultural memory (je me souviens) than the rest of Canada. More sense of "the story of how we got here is important". But yeah, I guess it has more bitter energy than proud.

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

Summoning community designer @Malcolm_Ocean: what's your take on Packy's new piece? Main Q: How critical do you think web3 is for the newly emerging internet scenius?

@ricvolpe my short take is that it'll certainly help, for the reason @packyM says, but it doesn't happen at all without the win-win cultural stuff > until web3, it was impossible, or exceedingly difficult, to turn [anon] clout into cash or to run a company pseudonymously.

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@ricvolpe @packyM the fun part is that these sorts of things are attractors, and the win-win attractor broadly outcompetes the win-lose attractor (on long enough timescales, unless destroyed in the meantime) so we'll get there one way or another

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean does it include training/support for people who are fixated on the idea of economic generation, think its everything, and forget that redistribution is a fundamental part of government and social functioning

@AskYatharth yeah death & taxes

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"would there still be taxes in eutopia?" I've been pondering this question sometimes, in light of the famous quote: "’Tis impossible to be sure of any thing but Death and Taxes" My hunch is "yes in some sense but they'd look very different." twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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I always love it when people say 'baby steps!' to imply they're being tentative, when actually baby steps are a great unba…

baby steps... holy shit what a great point! post below other metaphors revitalized by being reconnected with the actual thing in question

Olivia Smith @OliveFSmith ·

I always love it when people say 'baby steps!' to imply they're being tentative, when actually baby steps are a great unbalanced, wholehearted, enthusiastic lurch into the unknown.

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

can I allow the vibe to hold me?

quoting @_StevenFan: can I hold the vibe?

@gptbrooke makes me think of the unkillable meta-vibe

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@WeftOfSoul @Malcolm_Ocean Quote: being able to have my vibe, being able to vibe with other vibes, but no one can kill the meta-vibe it might change, say, if someone comes in the room crying but the meta-vibe does not die

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Replying to Étienne @etiennefd ·

@Malcolm_Ocean But also a common joke is that no one really knows “je me souviens” of what 😄 Historical consciousness isn’t that widespread

@etiennefd omg that's... wow. "I remember... uhh I forget what I remember. But I remember!"

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Replying to ᛟ⛅️holyweather⛈️ᚹ @_holyweather ·

I think I believe that deep down very few people genuinely enjoy weed or alcohol

@_holyweather yeah I think that's not actually true but I think also that often alcohol is consumed for reasons other than enjoyment (of the taste or of the drug) sometimes it's the most interesting available thing to drink, for instance

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Replying to Austen Allred @Austen ·

Think people are way too quick to dismiss the Meta thing. I wouldn’t bet against it.

@Austen Attractors gonna attract, and VR/AR etc is an attractor. but the idea of fb/zuck owning that word is offensive that would be like GM rebranding as Car like... no. fuck you for even thinking that's a reasonable thing to do.

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Replying to reddy2go @reddy2go ·

focus -> finite awareness -> infinite

@reddy2go

Callum @callumflack ·

Oh. Carse’s finite v infinite is a stupid simple match to McGilchrist’s representational left-hemisphere v perceptional right-hemisphere.

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Replying to coordinape @coordinape ·

Coordinape decentralizes compensation, putting the power to reward and incentivize work directly into the hands of contributors themselves. Rally your squad, your troop, your crew, your pod and your community. Start a circle. Thank your fellow apes with coordinape.com

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@coordinape @BlackForestBoi coordinape ^ seems like something you'd want to be abreast of

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huhhhhh it occurs to me that the terminal-unit-as-individual thing is related to the notion of UBI as something individuals would get

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Ongoingly-updated thread about why I think UBI is obviously the thing to do. (Without implying I or anyone knows how to implement it perfectly or that it would be easy.) Am interested in getting both supporting takes and "but what about?" takes, to refine my position here!

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I read an article recently that was talking about how the institution of marriage had eroded and that part of that was related to welfare benefits for single moms? I forget what it was but it seems like something I should be factoring into UBI discussions

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean also i don’t think that’s really addressing the point, death & taxes it’s something beyond survival of the system and the winning parts, it’s a kind of value

@AskYatharth this is what I was pointing at by linking to that death & taxes thread... maybe could have gone straight there but the death & taxes level was what stood out when you asked

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

1/ "You Might Have Earned It, But Don’t Forget That Your Wealth Came from Society" Subtitle: To be human is to earn the right to share in the wealth generated by productive social institutions Thread 👇 evonomics.com/wealth-of-huma…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what do you mean by this?

@AskYatharth uhhh good question based on the additional tweet, probably something about how finite games are never really satisfying but it was a dream insight man, idk if I have ever fully understood it since I woke up from the dream

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

(insight from a dream a few months ago, just found in a journal. relates to Finite & Infinite Games, and #GameB)

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Thread · Design notes for a conversation-optimized Twitter replacement · 1 of 17 tweets

Thread that talks about how quote-tweets are like asexual reproduction and *multi*-quote-tweets would be like sexual reproduction (in the sense of mating two memes together)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Complete "family trees" aren't actually trees (unless asexual reproduction). Mating process makes it a DAG instead. I was already saying @RoamResearch was a gamechanger (over workflowy or file-folder hierarchies) like the advent of sexual reproduction—turns out it's isomorphic!

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Replying to Beardyman @beardyman ·

I’m just gonna go out and say it, my discord server discord.gg/beardyman is better than facebook. #DeleteFacebook and join my discord. Does facebook have a channel dedicated to chat in made up language? No. Mine is better.

@beardyman blorgostomop tinkapay pe twitter loh:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean niles nasha??? beeja... 🤔 jaboku, lek... ah! niles NASHA 🤯😂 jajaja

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I just scrolled through Jack’s following list of 4,000+ people and picked up 8 new mutuals. Took me 30+ minutes. It should take seconds

@visakanv still not great, but way quicker (~3-5 mins) if you use these keyboard shortcuts: first ctrl+f (or cmd+f on mac) and put "follows you" in the search thingy then: pagedown pagedown pagedown ctrl+f enter ×100 or so

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Have you tried doing this? I find that it breaks when things are loading

@visakanv yeah did it just now, that's why you have to do it 100×

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean also I guess in retrospect since I was already in his following I was also curious to get a sense of all 4000

@visakanv ah yeah, I also spotted a few names there I recognized (someone on my team when I interned at twitter in 2013 for instance) & cool to see overall patterns lots of bitcoin folks & african entrepreneurs a patch of sports teams picturing him trying to get different vantage points🌐

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

do people still write tragedies? what's a good recent tragic fiction?

@MasterTimBlais they write sins now instead

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Replying to bbb234 @bigbadbob234 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Austen "General Motors" is the more broad category tho

@bigbadbob234 @Austen it's at least a long enough name that people aren't trying to use it in other sentences tho if they'd rebranded as "the meta company" that would have been dumb but at least unambiguous

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Thread · Design notes for a conversation-optimized Twitter replacement · 1 of 17 tweets

(oh wait actually no, single QTs are like horizontal gene transfer and multiQTs start getting sexy. or maybe that'd be multiReply, which is kind of a bonkers idea)

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the figure-ground inversions in this are wack

All Technique No Passion @ATNPassion ·

Feline Tornado

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Replying to @doriantaylor

@doriantaylor @vgr got a source Dorian? would love to explore this as I've been known to use that quote

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

*AND* it matters that the vision happens. But I'm pursuing it in a way that's energy-releasing! I'm not trying to force myself into becoming a finder-of-people or Sacred Gifts guide. I'm doing what is mine to do, which is "teach them to yearn" twitter.com/nickcammarata/…

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Replying to Anne-Lorraine 🍀 @AnneSelke ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @jondubin Started reading into this & booked a 2 day intro for October in Berlin. Yess! Thank you for this suggestion ❤

@AnneSelke @jondubin Hakomi updates? 😀

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