tweet as if people have read all of your previous tweets not always, but sometimes if people are missing the context, they can ask! then you can thread in those tweets or explain afresh
tweet as if people have read all of your previous tweets not always, but sometimes if people are missing the context, they can ask! then you can thread in those tweets or explain afresh
@ricvolpe sometimes but
@artpi huh, that would be neat, though ofc for some sites that'd be way too often the wordpress android app often doesn't load - some sort of jetpack error 🤷♀️
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
Every time you come across strategies to skip the small talk and get straight to the action I want you to replace ‘small ta…
@tasshinfogleman @visakanv @m_ashcroft I mean isn't the point of a warm up "get muscles warm before doing things that body will do better if warm"? seems like a good name
hot take: talking about the weather is a sacred act
@acidshill it's not that hot here, either—I was surprised to realize how quickly Vancouver summer ends
"There will always be something true in any step. Any choice you make will always have true growth in it." ift.tt/3BdHD0M
@tasshinfogleman figured it could be good to follow up and check in that your winter plans are coming along (btw @LordChisholm & @SarahAMcManus & I are aiming to hit Portugal this winter if all goes well. we don't have more specific plans than that yet)
I used to listen to a lot of Game B podcasts, and kinda haven't lately... ...either the whole scene has uplevelled dramatically in the last year or I got super lucky when I decided to listen to this one first, because wow. Wanted to quote like every other line of this.
@AriintheAir I'm looking forward to going deeper with you on flocking as a metaphor for human collective intelligence! (I'll schedule for sometime in the next week or two!)
@in_the_Temenos I would also agree with this, for sure shared meaning-making is the very essence of sacredness
@quotidiania @magicianbrain I think it's bad if this happens all the time but also bad if it happens never most of the time the water should just boringly come out of the tap such that you don't even think about it but sometimes you want to actually remember there's a whole system making that happen
@JimmyRis Yeah! And you're combining your individual sense perceptions and contextual awarenesses into a larger co-perception of the environment.
@tato_tweets "Game B is not a good idea" in the signifier sense or the referent sense? The replies to the GurusPod read like /r/sneerclub, which is not my vibe at all and gives me no appetite to check out the critique.
@tato_tweets Having said that, I would be interested in something that's even further towards the frontier of human thinking than Jordan Hall (which could be a critique of his ideas or of Game B) so I guess feel free to send a link ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@made_in_cosmos many stages/moments: - first year uni, being out at a party and realizing nobody not at the party knew where I was - buying my own {computer, furniture, etc} - getting paid decent money (in internships) - having a profitable business - choosing where to live
tfw you search your streaming app for a favorite artist intending to listen to their album from a few months ago and they have a new collaboration with ANOTHER favorite artist (lookin at you cory wong & dirty loops)
@RichDecibels @visakanv oh wow, yeah, creates a whole dark question energy
speculating part of the reason actors manage to bulk up or otherwise change body shape for their roles (in addition to personal trainers etc) is they're doing so to get *in character*, whereas most ppl trying to get fit *in their own lives* have some identity conflict with it
@RichDecibels reminded me of this (not sure if it'll be your vibe haha) youtube.com/watch?v=CGh3KD…
@nibrasibn don't pay for options you don't want figure out what you're getting for marginal units of grades, and only get as much grades as you need in order to do what you want longer writeup: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
@nibrasibn relatedly, the vital skill of whole-assed half-assing mindingourway.com/half-assing-it…
@nibrasibn finally, school's pressures can teach some bad thinking habits, so ideally start a business in parallel or do something else where your thinking has a feedback loop based on your own taste or what works, rather than what gets A+s. malcolmocean.com/2015/06/unlear…
@Evolving_Ego I had this hypothesis at like age 15 or something like that! This exact ratio. I like the retina analogy :)
Thread · Why people signed up for the virtual barn-raising · 4 of 8 tweets
> It's fun to make things with people! Would like to see how this flavor of collaboration works > Loving the idea of supporting each other in building, being creative, defying set rules of community and competition.
> I like the community aspect of coming together to support someone's project! I think it'll be fun, I'll learn, and make friends, especially in a somewhat "work" context
> I’m very curious about the barn raising format (and serendipitous collaboration in general). I feel like I have been wasting so much of the value I have to add to the world and I believe this is the type of initiative that can help me start realizing some of it.
> Love for Malcolm and Priya. Fun of collaborating with incredible people > I like the idea and like working with people > Malcolm said I could be useful and I'm out here casting about for ways to be useful, and I trust him
I'm realizing that me extracting the core piece of this video into a QT-able unit was really valuable. Keeps resurfacing. A quest for you, if you want: think of a video clip you'd like to have around here, and pull out up to 2:20 into a tweet. No rare skills needed.
Once you know the part of the video you're looking for, it's basically a 1 step process to get it. Go to ytcutter.com, put in the url, the start & end time, hit preview, hit download. Then make a new tweet, add some text for searchability & context, and go! 🚀
@QiaochuYuan "I would argue that envy of childhood is the distinctive Squidwardian emotion" this clip of Spongebob & Mozart laughing insanely from ContraPoints' Envy video reminded me of this whole bit about suppressing laughter (the laughing is at the very end of the clip below)
@QiaochuYuan cc @HelloShreyas who had the original tweet about children laughing for reference, this clip is from 27 minutes into ContraPoints' video: youtube.com/watch?v=aPhrTO…
Can either tweet the tweet as its own tweet, or as a reply to someone else talking about a similar topic. Here's another one by me! (Unfortunately ytcutter.com wasn't working, so I downloaded the whole thing & cut it with ffmpeg 😑)
Here's @AriintheAir with a great metaphor for visualizing how we can see farther and better together, and how emergent collective intelligence involves a dynamic balance of competition & collaboration. the paragliding gaggle hive mind: soundcloud.com/ariintheair/hi…
continuing to feel the meta-value of pointing out moves that help the giant sensemaking serendipity organism digest everything that's happening
@AriintheAir this relates to your paragliding gaggle/brain metaphor
@visakanv yeah, this was true for me, although I got out pretty damn early. UWaterloo's co-op program gave me the chance to do a bunch of internships and I quickly learned I didn't like *jobs* and even before most of those internships, I had a goal to graduate with a profitable company
@SeishinWrites hm, I've signed up but I'm not sure the code got applied! are you sure it's just that url, or is there another code it might be? I have a "enter referral code" link but it didn't take the "ioOe2BwUQib" from the end of the url
move vast and shake things
@Aella_Girl @LordChisholm shared it in some groupchats recently, which is probably where you saw it
Retweeted @gordonbrander
A fail? In *my* too-big-to? It's more likely than you think.
@mechanical_monk I would simply not be traffic
@SeishinWrites Awesome, worked great. The grocery stores I've found aren't super close but we might hit them up!
@SeishinWrites Oh, I'm not seeing the "$5 for a big box" deals over here (which it sounds like what you were seeing) it's just a bunch of things 50% off.
@this_is_silvia sounds like fun
Thread · Discovering ENFP fits better than ENTx · 6 of 7 tweets
o shit, here I was thinking that MBTI types didn't resonate for me, but apparently the tests I just took were bad (they gave ENTx) @maskys_ guessed today I was an ENFP and this is extremely resonant! (the whole page, but particularly this excerpt) 16personalities.com/enfp-personali…

I was at a tiny regional burning man event this past weekend and I found myself feeling a bit lost/purposeless until I ran into someone I'd met a few months ago and had some realtalk about where we see the world going, and his vision. Then we went back to the dancefloor! 🕺✨
main thing that doesn't resonate is the people-pleasing elements. I feel like I'm by nature pretty willing to upset or bother people if I'm annoyed or if I feel right about something... and have had to learn not to because it gets in the way of what else I'm trying to do 😅
cc @visakanv who was puzzling about our similarities and differences both 7w8 enneagram-wise, but he's ENTP whereas I'm ENFP, I guess!
re similarities & diffs between me & VV:
Visa, how does this connect with what you were saying about our Jungian cognitive functions?
@DanielleFong @maskys_ are you also ennea7, or something else? I'm trying to figure out how it all relates.
@metaphorician whoa they have a site here where you can play with these fractals! csdt.org/culture/africa…

Retweeted @goth600
shout out to the little monk in each of my cells that transcribes my DNA by candle light
@visakanv hmmm, currently looking at ENFJ ("Protagonist" or "Teacher") and there's some resonance there too although again my level of improv vs doing-what-I-said-I-would-do seems to match P more than J
@visakanv I feel like I'm a "bring the whole circus with me" kind of guy haha! I think I have less of that vibe on twitter than in-person, and maybe also less than I used to in some ways. Hmmm...
@visakanv yeah, similar to how I'm a textbook enneagram 7 I just did the test on 16personalities.com, and got ENFP yeah, a lot of these dimensions could go either way. (maybe the assertive vs turbulent makes the difference? who knows lol)

@visakanv I also noticed several answers that have changed a lot in the last years too—eg before learning BioEmotive, would not have said I could usually quickly tell how someone was feeling by looking at them, but turns out you can train this(!)
@visakanv @made_in_cosmos ahhhh hm welp I think I'm concluding that I might as well mostly stick with the enneagram for understanding myself 😅 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Retweeted @visakanv
I think my top request for Twitter now might be a “disavow” feature, something like the ability to flag one’s own tweet as “e…
@captain_mrs thanks. I care about this stuff fuck them for porting the model and having such great SEO and graphic design that they come out on top of google search results for eg "ENFP"
Thread · Discovering ENFP fits better than ENTx · 1 of 7 tweets
hmm okay I took this test linked by @__justplaying... what do my results mean? (@visakanv, @captain_mrs, ?) I'm particularly curious to what extent my range of numbers is low vs high. 5 types within 4 points of each other seems pretty narrow to me

Retweeted @visakanv
@Malcolm_Ocean arise ye, malcolm of ocean, designer of systems, raiser of barns, feral of agents, asker of what if it were go…
Retweeted @visakanv
anyway what I wanted to say with the original thought was I think each person is maximally powerful, productive, useful, etc…
@captain_mrs @__justplaying @visakanv my results were already pretty unclear (ENxx iirc) at age 16 when I first tried an MBTI test, so idk
based thread
Retweeted @aphercotropist
This is teleocentrism
@mechanical_monk idk about the specific incident that prompted it, but it's someone thinking aloud about the challenges of managing people in communities, and calling on people to show up with more sovereignty
@PrinceVogel ohhhh shit I know a great example of this but I have forgotten the name. it was some play on "thought", like "thunk" or "thoughtworks" or something but not actually either of those they had a great chart on how public trust in institutions interplays with education
@PrinceVogel from thwink.org, talking about memetic evolution in the context of political deception & corruption (huh, this combos interestingly with rational/antirational memes, cc @metaLulie)

@PrinceVogel aha! it was thwink! thwink.org

@PrinceVogel literally found this by searching an old roam graph for "www.th" and scrolling past a bunch of theguardian, theglobeandmail, thestoa until I was like "WAIT! that's it!"
5k followers! ...I stopped wanting more at about 4k 😅 but anyway, let's celebrate or whatever ✨ if you do this exercise & reply about it below, I'll help you ideate about how you might make this happen and with whom! 🚀
pick your proof:
@gnrtvty considered this one imagining a srs bsns blockchain now with "proof of pudding" in their whitepaper 🤣
I don't have strong opinions on what to do about gendered sports divisions & trans athletes. Since people with no strong opinions don't usually say anything, Twitter is disproportionately full of strong opinions. So I thought I'd say it. I don't really know. It seems complicated.
is circling an improv game?
spontaneity is contagious
I'm revisiting Perceptual Control Theory and contrasting it with Predictive Processing and noting that PP seems to have an is/ought confusion baked in… Does PP use "prediction" for both a perception you're trying to control ("ought") and one you're just observing ("is")?
tagging @xuenay @slatestarcodex @yashkaf @metaphorician @prerationalist @OshanJarow, who may have thoughts on predictive processing—I haven't read papers or Surfing Uncertainty, just a few SSC posts (plz reply to above tweet, not this one, to avoid cluttering ppl's mentions)
@diviacaroline huh. do you have particular comments about PCT/PP on that front? also @meditationstuff I feel like you'd dig Divia's comment here and maybe have some cool responses
@danielgolliher, just heard about what you're up to via @Prigoose, and wanted to make sure you know about Geoffrey West's book Scale, which talks about superlinear benefits and sublinear costs of growing cities:
@lisatomic5 I switched to a boarding school with more challenging academics (IB diploma etc) at grade 9, and that was amazing for me. The teachers at the small-town school I grew up at were uhhh insecure about me being smarter than them 😅 non-representative example:
Retweeted @Austen
A mental model I stole from someone for thinking about products that have a service/human element to them: Does this get bette…
@yashkaf okay I think I'm following... but what if you don't have a state you're controlling towards with respect to some perception? like you walk into a room and there's an object there you didn't actively expect but doesn't surprise you
@hestmatematik @reddy2go @visakanv @FPallopides lots of great stuff on economics experiments and similar, in this interview: talks about the creation of Shenzhen in China, among other case studies youtube.com/watch?v=CHQi1H…
@OshanJarow So I'm coming at this from a PCT frame, which is nearly isomorphic to PP but with a sort of figure-ground inversion. This article translates the terms into each other: slatestarcodex.com/2019/03/20/tra…
@OshanJarow in a case like "I am going to drink a glass of water" PP says "I predict I will lift the glass" PCT says "my reference level for the glass is up" this is an ought, or controlling but if you're just looking at the glass, there's no controlling (aside from eye movement)
@OshanJarow but my understanding is that PP originated as a model of perception itself (how to integrate top-down and bottom-up data) and so it *also* uses the word "prediction" to refer to the top-down models asserting themselves when you're just observing stuff which seems confused

Retweeted @AskYatharth
Why do I have a list of tasks? This is ridiculous. I need a set of long-term goals I am constantly, dynamically orienting…
I identify as helpful twitter.com/abhayance/stat…
I did a blog post about the concept of Home, and how effective sharing of Home requires: - a concept of Fractal Home (perhaps implicit) - being able to get clear about what you care about - the capacity to find win-wins instead of compromises malcolmocean.com/2021/10/fracta…
Retweeted @awakingsleep
I’ve been scalded a couple of times when people unused to this way of approaching the world misinterpret, but it’s still…
@MasterTimBlais @DarbraDawn @dancinghorse16 "i'm canadian, y'all are South to me" 🤣 😙👌
Retweeted @Prigoose
i was born in the bay and i build businesses like a hippie...communally 🥰 if y'all want to help us "raise the barn", join us…
@ricvolpe what would you like to see happening more? can you imagine something that somebody might do that would really excite you to see? what energy are you not able to let flow yet because the context doesn't exist for it?
@RomeoStevens76 @jasoncrawford 100% YES. Only song that has caused me to cry while thinking about a grocery store. Fucking beautiful.
@maskys_ @visakanv huh neat, would be interested to see that!
@gworley3 I considered trying to add something like this 😅
@made_in_cosmos have you checked out Jordan Hall's Civium concept? aiming for a best-of-both-worlds system
@visakanv It doesn't matter 'Bout the car I drive or what I wear around my neck [...] It doesn't matter 'Bout the clothes I wear, and where I go and why All that matters Is that you get hyped and we'll do it to you every time youtube.com/watch?v=TWZKw_…
@visakanv There's also Will Powers, creator of Perceptual Control Theory, which has everything to do with motivation (how motivation *actually* works though, not so much how we feel like it should work, which makes the willpower pun more ironic than appropriate)
@made_in_cosmos > a ring of closely-knit small towns tied together with a great transportation system Mmmmmmmmmm yeah this sounds awesome.
hmmm.... hmm. fragility. single points of failure.
Retweeted @visakanv
finally an example of a meeting that could not have been an email
tired: pay-it-back economies wired: pay-it-forward economies
@Conaw @ben_mathes great idea honestly would create a lot more space for deep work, not just in terms of time but mental/emotional space
@tasshinfogleman @Conaw @ben_mathes the best critique is building something nobody else can build. you know that—you've done it before. that's your genius 🚿 🌱
people will always give you the feedback you need but they won't always give it to you in ways you'll be able to hear in fact usually the feedback we most need is the feedback people are worst at giving us in ways we can hear for reasons that are obvious on reflection
@EvadeHullu @visakanv haha true, good point
@ricvolpe Mmm nice! Highly recommend checking out this video, which touches on a bunch of this:
@ricvolpe I think "twitter friend" makes sense as a parallel to "college friend" or "friend from the gym"—there's still a context to things
@holydiscogirl guessing part of you feels like it needs permission to be irritable, or something like that
@acidshill signatures are definitely secure authentication
Here's @__drewface & me setting up the gather.town for the virtual barn-raising tomorrow! If you want to come help launch a business—coding, marketing, sales, testing, ideating, documentation, or anything else—click here to sign up: 🚀ajroberts0417.typeform.com/to/xyEW680E

people will always give you the feedback you need but they won't always give it to you in ways you'll be able to hear in fact usually the feedback we most need is the feedback we're worst at hearing (given how ppl know how to say it) for reasons that are obvious on reflection
@HephaistosF gotta listen differently too articulating someone's blindspot to them is kind of an inherently frustrating task, because in order to communicate with someone you need to bridge to their frame, but their frame has the blindspot you're trying to point at!
@RichDecibels where???
Retweeted @provisionalidea
Yo so you know how a bunch of scientists and theorists have been saying for years that tools are an extension of the h…
@cortexfutura @beauhaan @MattSmithTweets @RoamResearch I sometimes like to look up at airplanes flying overhead and feel the amount of wonder I would feel if I were seeing spacecraft taking off 🤩 (Although I'm sure that could become boring too if it happened every day!)
Retweeted @visakanv
non-naive trust dance (via @malcolm_ocean) malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…

@mayfer FYEAH! I know you said you wanted out of that, when we talked. congrats on cleaning it up.
@visakanv finally answering your question 🌱
Retweeted @visakanv
there is no such thing as a real job
@visakanv I don't think in this case you directly caused it, but it's still satisfying to get to answer your question months later! so it all helps :)
@m_ashcroft @TurboRational definitely patriarchy has nothing to do with hierarchy
@visakanv ahh, yeah yeah. should be hitting 1 blog post weekly for the next while, thanks to my showtimes (that I'm now beeminding) on which note, oh shit, gotta schedule one today! ...done. gonna turn this into a blog post:
@m_ashcroft @TurboRational *shakes fist at archy, who is definitely the root of all problems*

@RaymonddeOlive1 Mmm, yeah, I feel like we're on the same page here, so maybe it's just about my language. The thing I'm trying to point at is very much about the recognition that we don't by default know how to interpret incoming feedback.
Thread · Why tarot makes sense to me and astrology doesn't
@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 tarot makes sense to me because it's kind of inherently immediately interactive & random and I've never heard anyone claim a causal connection it's like listening to your music library on shuffle and noticing what resonates and what memories & hopes & fears arise
@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 I continue to think astrology is bad, in part because of a specific horrifying incident where at age 14 I listened to a detailed chart my astrologer uncle had done for me at birth (recorded to cassette) and was SO GLAD my parents hadn't taken it seriously because it so wasn't me.
@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 So people can fuck right off with their "you need more than sun sign". Either there's a causal chain and it should all check out and be consistent, OR using more than sun sign is just getting more randomness, in which case why not just use tarot?
@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 (I have very few enemies, astrology is one 😅)
@MasterTimBlais @RomeoStevens76 Yeah probably should gtfo, thanks for the reminder 😛
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
Just amplifying this incredible thread in case you haven’t seen it
@mayfer oh and what about a barn-raising for spiel? idk if that's quite what you need but I want to support you getting off the ground 🚀
I've been using Brave search for a couple months now and I still haven't shaken the feeling that Google knows what I'm searching.
Retweeted @literalbanana
School gets a bad rap but it’s actually really impressive - juvenile human brains are constantly learning from any avail…
@HephaistosF Browser is Brave too, has been for a bit. The only google extension I have is google docs offline, which supposedly doesn't have permission to see my tabs etc, but it also sorta looks like it doesn't use any permissions at all so that's kinda suspicious.
@AtrinAssa @MatiosTV whoa, this is so much trippier with the rotation... is it a mandelbrot or something else?
Retweeted @Evolving_Ego
Suppose a nation's economy requires only 50% of working age people to work jobs to produce everything that needs producin…
@davidfactorial interfaces are super important! this is worthy work
@DevinBalkind @JaredJanes @RichDecibels came across this awhile later and thought you guys would enjoy this tweet I did a few months ago 😛
@ciphergoth (just saw this now I guess) I think that there could be a reasonable thing that "right-wing" points at that isn't just an identity, but the term seems so overloaded at this point that it's not *useful* as anything other than an identity pointer. meaningness.com/political-left…
@ciphergoth also I'm in Canada so "Trumpist" would seem like a weird thing to say (not that people don't) I appreciate your input tho! I did think for awhile and try out a few different versions of what the sides should be, and I wasn't totally satisfied with any of them, incl "right-wing".
@visakanv @hormeze yeah, can practice with like, ordering food at a restaurant. be like "I'm just gonna pick the first thing that seems good... bam!" or whatever. doesn't need an explicit criterion, just a non-waffling energy
@visakanv @hormeze also try closing some tabs that you'd been leaving open to do something about! start fresh
@uberstuber @celzalejandro @cullinmcgrath I didn't remember seeing this 👆 but it may have influenced me a bit because I think I've gotten better at just closing tabs!
somehow I missed this when it first came out fucking hilarious slatestarcodex.com/2019/11/04/sam…
even if you were somehow 100% right about everything 1) you can't convince other people without listening & understanding how *they* see things 2) for anything to do with social reality, you can't even actually know you're right until you confer with others
(I guess I would go a bit further and say that in some sense you have to confer with everybody to know that you're right in a global sense, not just right within the frame of the group you're in, with all of its blindspots)
Although ofc if the matter you're concerned about mostly pertains to a given group, it could be pragmatically sufficient to confer just with the group members. I just always see the fractal complexities and in-the-limit-ness of things.
@maskys_ @visakanv I got super confused before I realized that these graphics weren't in the same arrangement😅 I kinda resonate with all of them tbh! maybe I'm just perfectly balanced 😇

Haters of #TweetsAboutThisTrend are fans too
@JeffLadish @visakanv and a lot of the people who hang around him
@hdevalence @JeffLadish would love to support this maybe @davidfactorial would be interested in helping! (context 👇) twitter.com/davidfactorial…
Retweeted @JeffLadish
Who here is interested in making their social media experience absolutely amazing? I hear so much talk of "social media is…
@JeffLadish I've made some userstyles & userscripts that improve twitter! Mostly to minimize distraction, so far. most of them aggregated here: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
@QiaochuYuan reminded me of this 😬
@QiaochuYuan have you considered... youtube.com/watch?v=dHg50m…
The hashtag in the tweet below is trending, and more than half of the tweets I see when I look at the hashtag are either people being like "🙄 so dumb #TweetsAboutThisTrend is trending" or jokes like the below. Which ofc is why it's still trending. Self-perpetuating patterns. t.co/Mfhrw0Xuq4
@mayfer down to talk at some point if you want! on whatever levels of abstraction most need our collective attention
Can't quite place why but this track by Bo Burnham seems *too good*. Nobody can make nihilistic despair so warm & beautiful... but he... did? 🧐 Paging @_charlescornell to investigate what secret techniques he's using. youtube.com/watch?v=1Rx_p3…
Found an interesting sort-of-a-definition of hyperbolic discounting in my notes: = when your ideal "today" looks different from your ideal "every day"
@visakanv what about 10 star social media? uxdesign.cc/what-would-be-…
@visakanv cc @ricvolpe ^ since you ideated about this
@diviacaroline I noticed a couple years ago that I naturally get like N units of attention (some pretty large N) but I can only usefully use maybe like N×0.5-0.8 units at any given time... ...and started giving spare ones to @LordChisholm, who is great at deploying attention but never seeks it
Thread · Ranting about microwave knobs and undesigned products
2nd episode of the What If It Were Good Tho? show now live. I don't know if anyone wants to hear 17 minutes of me ranting about why microwaves should have knobs, but if you do, it's here: youtube.com/watch?v=qy6BOQ…
I'm not being self-deprecating with the previous comment—I make these videos primarily for my own catharsis, and any benefit gleaned by anyone else is bonus. Having said that! Someone apparently got a lot out of my previous one 😮

It delights me enormously to have this outlet for my frustration with how things aren't designed. How afaict nobody even asks "what if it were good tho?" about most aspects of their products. Part of what I'm enjoying is the low production quality. One shot, no edits. No nada.
Despite YouTube becoming a place where incredibly-well-produced, mixed, master, scripted or professionally-improvised content is now hosted... ...you can actually still just record a video of yourself ranting and upload it!
More on knobs on microwaves:
knobfeel (I riff on this in the video) youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2eaK…
More on my exploration of the "What If It Were Good Tho>" concept:
Thread on the lack of design in everything:
Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets
the cutest fucking kitten of all time how the shit is it legal to just have this uncensored on the TL twitter.com/OregonRolledA2…
@visakanv I have a version that's slightly groovier that I came up with later! (a few more 7th chords) (oh and the original idea for the jingle goes to @SarahAMcManus!)
@the_wilderless @_charlescornell have you tried listening to the 1h version with no monologue? something about the middle transition is slightly missing without the monologue, but it is easier than hitting "replay" every time youtube.com/watch?v=Rvq_tO…
@the_wilderless @_charlescornell my main guess as to wtf witchcraft going on is: - his voice is already good (tons of tight runs) and he's got amazing fx on it - he's doing some trippy tuplet stuff (eg on "like I give a shit" and "honey it already did") - the poetry is legit good poetry, on many levels
@nickcammarata @cjflog @MilanGriffes @michael_nielsen @tao_lin @QualiaRI @andzuck1 @algekalipso @johnsonmxe @webmasterdave @RaymonddeOlive1 seems to be working on this stuff! talked to him a bunch today his main inspirations seem to be @HFreinacht & @QualiaRI I think you two would vibe!
@the_wilderless @_charlescornell also I think he was channeling something cosmically ecstatic/heavenly when he sang it, which is part of the paradox of the whole thing, how he's singing with layers of despair and hope and fear and comfort, but he's ON. he's alive. he's plugged in.
Thread · Reflections on a weekly day with nothing planned
I've kept up a weekly "day off" most weeks since April, and it's been such an amazing habit. It continues being pretty much what I wrote below: - no preplanned anything - no browser tabs to start the day Thread of reflections so far:
I've kind of tried to keep those 2 elements alive during the day too though, meaning: - I don't schedule anything later in the day, during the day - I try my best to decisively nuke browser tabs I'm not actively using
If some event is particularly juicy and only happens that day, I might put it on my 2nd calendar (more of an "fyi") so that I know that the opportunity is there. But I make it clear for people not to assume I'll go.
Sometimes, a day or two before my day off, I imagine what I might do that day, but I still have to find out. Saturday-me can delight in the present FEELING of how satisfying it might feel to spend the day finishing an old backburner project... but it's a fantasy, not a plan
It's simultaneously kinda scary & profoundly liberating to tell people I'm not available on a given day not because I'm busy but because my schedule is completely empty and NOBODY (not even me) is allowed to fill it.
People have been remarkably respectful of it though! I think that's in part because I
This thread prompted by this VV tweet. My work is fun and my play is worthwhile, so I still don't feel like I need separation between work & leisure, or weekends/weekdays, but creating FREE TIME is huge.
Would highly encourage all feral free agents to take a whole day off each week. If you can't socialize midweek though it's not unreasonable to refuse to plan things on the weekends, but I'd still recommend carving out 2-4h in which you do WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE DOING 🙃🥳🤓😴
The value of starting the day without open browser tabs is that I "what I feel like doing" bubbles up from within, rather than being sort of an "oh, what about this?" prompted by external stimulation. Easy to bomp around at the whims of the environment all day by accident.
Sometimes, in service of that "bubble up motivation instead of external prompts" vibe, I also take the day off Twitter! (if you're "how can you possibly manage that?" then... I am well-prepared!)
Here's an excellent piece describing what sounds like a very similar practice, although implemented on a more reflex level whereas mine feels a bit more on the routine level. agentyduck.blogspot.com/2015/07/effect…
@ben_r_hoffman has a great article which was one inspiration for this. What I do is very different on the object level, but the meta points resonate: if you don't have the slack to take a day to do whatever you feel like, things are not okay. benjaminrosshoffman.com/sabbath-hard-a…
An invitation, if you want one: 👉 pick a day on your calendar where you have few or no things scheduled already ⛔️ block it off entirely (from yourself & others) ✖️ call off any existing plans, & tell people who might have implicit expectations that you're taking the day off
When that day comes, do whatever you feel like doing! ...in the context of the whole rest of your life, of course. Everything always is. But you can assess that directly in the moment in an in-person way.
In the long run, I think we can move towards a world where approximately people are always doing what they feel like doing. Figuring out how to make that even remotely workable is a design problem tho; practicing bite-sized amounts of utter freedom helps.
> "Work [in the onerous sense] is whenever you’d rather be doing something else."
@visakanv congrats sir you have prompted a thread:
Things are bad, they make me sad... What if it were good tho? Things are bad, they make me mad! What if it were good tho?
@visakanv "what's something that you think most people following me on twitter/youtube/etc don't know, that's really obvious from your vantage point?" "(that you think is worth pointing out)"
@visakanv I feel like I want to ask something more about her directly but I mostly know her in the context of you, not directly, sooooo I feel like I don't know where to start! And I'm reminding myself that that's okay.
@visakanv Oh! I can do a neat meta move though, and run my cognition on your brain instead: ask her something you're nervous to ask her (in general or in the context of the podcast)
@utotranslucence it's never too late! also I definitely improvise random songs & raps (including beatboxing) to babies whenever someone leaves me with one for more than a few minutes
@visakanv "what if it existed at all tho?" ...okay, fine, fine, it exists at all now! so far just at malcolmocean.github.io/whatifitwerego…, but I think I have the domains configured properly and just need to wait for them to propagate, so I'm going to bed.
@maiab @visakanv you might find this chapter insightful! docs.google.com/document/d/1HK…
wildly wrong assumptions about *the world*, tbh
@startingfromnix @gptbrooke @Lan_Dao_ @adanguyenx hey I recognize some of these ladies!! 🤩
Retweeted @waitbutwhy
@BenAybar agreed re every nice thing some bad things tho: - we have more alienation & less social connection - and we have possibly created some global problems that we won't be able to solve in time (all solutions create new problems, but only some solutions create worse problems)
@Joshua_Z_Miller the only thing I know about twin cities is it gets a hilarious pun shoutout in this Blue Man Group song I thought you might want to know if you'd rather not know, probably don't watch the video 😆 youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6Yf_…
Retweeted @ne0liberal
China absolutely cannot stop making the US look badass in their propaganda

@DarbraDawn hit me
@visakanv disclaimer at the start of a book: any resemblance between meanings gleaned from this book and the original thoughts I had while writing it, is purely coincidental ...hm, no, that's not quite it
Let's bring back the word Journeyman. What are you a Journeyman at? (Can be a professional skill or something more casual, for purposes of this.) I'd say I'm a journeyman at making a web app, but kinda *only* on my own 😅. Or at writing/blogging. Not amazing, but solid.
@bovisrex @fortelabs I'll help with the bringing back!
oh wow, hadn't noticed how tightly the "serendipity engine" phrase maps onto @visakanv's "engine of luck-creation" til just now no wonder I thought to tag him though
@tristanharris @TheDailyShow @Trevornoah Yeah, we're looking at whole orders of magnitudes of improvements. I like what @visakanv says here:
@the_wilderless cud b worse you could have my "what if it were good tho?" jingle stuck in your head instead
Not gonna list it here, but I'm gonna spend a few minutes thinking of and writing down a couple of people I think I'd like to meet, and some potential pathways towards connection.
@visakanv getting these vibes from this last tweet ^
@visakanv *this last tweet _in the context of the entirety of who you are and what you're doing_
I honestly think a smart general appliance company would do way better if they hired me to rant at them for 30 minutes at various stages of their design & prototyping process.
@visakanv also developing the trust-dancing & feedback-giving skills needed to trade & collaborate with each other way smoother than most people realize is possible
@visakanv probably will, though might take me a decade since they're all prompted by an in-the-moment experience definitely feeling the pipeline opening up to posting more vids though like "oh yeah, this is a thing I do" even the tiny pieces of positive feedback are so encouraging
@visakanv like this comment on my microwave knob vid: > Nice jingle. I really like the concept of what you're doing here. Please keep making these! so simple but it makes me go "okay, people actually like these! genuinely was not sure if this was watchable at ALL"
@visakanv probably part of my "not sure if watchable" is that most people get 😬 and 🤚 when I rant like this in person probably the main diff with the video is that the viewer is empowered to shut me up, which is physically difficult in person when I'm in rant mode
@visakanv ...the main way I used to know of that would shut me up was loud agreement, like "I KNOW, IT'S SO BAD, JFC" but the new way is for someone to be like "Malcolm you should record a video about this" and then I'm like 😃😎😊🤩
@visakanv I'll probably do some for apps too, not just appliances but with apps it's a more complex thing because by default if it's simply bad I just don't use it (I kinda... don't use that many apps?) the fury with appliances I guess is that I BUY it and I OWN it and I HATE it
is the quote-tweet viewer broken for others or just me? I keep getting "Nothing to see here — yet". Not always but maybe 70%+ of the time. I guess this'll be a good reminder to look over to the Twemex sidebar though!

@visakanv hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm true
@visakanv I once did something similar with a friend who was trained in Sacred Gifts and was trying to figure out wtf my deal was, just picking up objects in my room and firehosing design thoughts about every single one and she was like holy shit what how do you 😳
@visakanv I think that conversation is actually upstream of a lot of good shit you've seen from me on this topic the last couple years, including What If It Were Good Tho? (not directly, but clearly on an emotional level)
Thread · Falling in the ocean while climbing rocks, and calibration · 4 of 6 tweets
I fell in the ocean this evening! Got soaked up to my armpits! Am home safe & sound 😊 I was trying to circumnavigate a "point" & the beach gradually turned to rocks turned to cliffs. Phone maybe fucked but I at least have this one pic I sent the friend I was on the phone with.

I grew up climbing around on rocks like this (in NS, on the other coast) so the challenge had a flow state quality to it. I was in my element! 🌊 But the rocks got steeper to the point where I'd have needed *rock-climbing skills*, not sure-footedness, balance, & jumping skills.
May cost me $400 to replace my phone & $XX for earbud case (we'll see if they dry out ok) but it was worth it for the feeling of adventure. The only way to 100% ensure your favorite shirt never gets dirty is to never wear it. Not gonna be that guy.
And I feel better calibrated from having actually made the other mistake—had basically never fallen in in decades of such climbing. I recall a thread recently about learning handstands via overcommitting; can't find it but found this old pith:
@jonnym1ller Jonny I wanna be on your podcast
@jonnym1ller which ofc you already commented but hmu with a scheduling link or something
@m_ashcroft @AlecStapp maybe FP is trying to meme it into existence
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
I literally just woke up with this stuck in my head. Powerful.
@jonnym1ller haha legit when I made that tweet in July I got like 10 requests all at once and was like 😳 and figured I'd just follow up gradually which I'm not doing!
@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft that sounds right if someone messages me with a podcast that has almost no audience, it's sorta like "uhhh... sure? but we could also have just talked, probably?"
@m_ashcroft @DRMacIver ooh nice, that's good actually I could imagine also doing something like "could do a recorded zoom call and post a snippet of it or the whole thing if we feel like it, or just completely not" although the ambiguity there would trip *some* people up at least
@visakanv have done two, at a rate of one every 50 days so if I keep up the same rate, for 100 that's 5000 days, which I guess is a bit over a decade actually but as you say,
this has inspired in me a new lil song called "welcome to the day" which might make a good wake up song
can't record a good video of it yet because it's late (read: dark, tho also quiet & bedtime for me) and because my phone is still drying out from my adventure earlier today
seems nuclear reactors thing isn't true… …which makes me wonder if FP is trying to meme it into existence by reporting positively on something that hasn't happened (yet!?) tired: fake news about bad things your enemies did 🙄 wired: fake news about events that'd be AWESOME 🤩
what if we made fake news, but good tho?
Thread · A role for helping people figure out what their thing is
reflecting on this is making me think it would be good to soon have at least one person in our motley crew who loves helping people figure out what they want to do what's self-energizing for them could be via the Sacred Gifts program (seems like a decent base) or whatever else!
then when someone tweets something like this 👇 we refer them to that person!
by Sacred Gifts program I guess I mean this @sacredgifts thing by someone named Monique they have a training for helping you help other people see how they can powerfully contribute to the world: yoursacredgifts.com/certification/
that sales page doesn't sell me, but the experience I had with my friend did! one tough part is, idk how much of that is the SG training she got vs the fact that *she's* naturally gifted in & inclined toward this sort of thing already 🙃
Anyway, as I wrote a year ago, this role is needed in the emerging distributed meta-team! We can all do a little bit of it, but if we find or create someone for whom it's *their* thing, then we can kick it up a notch!
(I was talking about this "get a twitter friend to take Sacred Gifts" thing with @visakanv in DMs and he was like "I bet we could go a long way just by being intentional about helping people figure out what their thing is" and I'm like "but I want to solve it on the meta level!")

I guess maybe the both-and version is this challenge, which someone could take on: ❤️🔥 "help 100 people figure out what their thing is" 💖 (you don't have to completely solve it lol, just make some headway) ...could this be your thing?
If you want to do this in reverse, rather than starting with 100 people, you might start with "make 100 hundred-thing challenges" or "name 100 roles we need in the meta-team & how someone might get started"
Thread · Falling in the ocean while climbing rocks, and calibration · 2 of 6 tweets
Oh I was also pleased though unsurprised to experience how unpanicked I was when I fell in the water. There was a huge adrenaline rush (in part just because sudden coldwet ofc) but then pure clarity of purpose: "wade/swim to a place I can climb out" (10' around the cliff)
Fascinating counterpoint to the story in this essay, where I thought I was gonna die no matter what and immediately accepted it. Today was: might die if don't do something, so do something! I see slightly more clearly why people like extreme sports. malcolmocean.com/2019/10/the-ch…
yo @sashachapin & @QiaochuYuan, y'all had some tweets awhile back (related to Sasha's post about his life being changed by Tim Ferriss iirc?) about how you can just say things and change people's lives seemed relevant to something @LordChisholm was asking me about
realizing the entire last 3 hours of my tweeting & DMing @visakanv & songwriting & ideating started with going onto twitter intending to find that but I hit the timeline before I hit search (unlike me, tbh) and whoooooooooosh not intentional, but totally meaningful stuff
I am getting better at doing what I feel like and having that be deeply meaningful stuff, and it's awesome.
@nobu_hibiki @MasterTimBlais @alltom has you covered: alltom.github.io/todournament/
what are exceptions to this? ♨️ building a perpetual motion machine is my go-to, but what else? (not talking about when someone "should interrupt" because who knows if that'll help, but situations where one can actually know something is impossible)
@visakanv nice my first "What If It Were Good Tho?" vid had no description at all until today when I went back & added a very short one
Retweeted @RamonAlonsoJr
So in a way, the whole of the commercial economy, all that it is in the strawberry 🍓 sense, really could not buy the leg…
once you've found the others, help them find themselves
wrapping up a call with @m_ashcroft where we accidentally invented a whole new cross-pollination thing and it took negative amounts of effort it's happening:
what's happening? this:
@RomeoStevens76 @sashachapin @QiaochuYuan @LordChisholm I think it could be interesting for you & Eric to talk (are you in the bay? he's in Berkeley for the next few days) although the original connection is more like, Eric was wanting to feel a sense of the power of his own words to effect change in the world
I still haven't gotten a satisfying answer to this question, which (leaving aside the implications etc) should be a pretty simple one about terminology unless the frame I'm using prohibits an answer, hm still interested though!
@HephaistosF ahhh, Ponzi scheme is a great example of something on the edge of this I would say the non-prescriptive version of this is "you can't do the thing you're proposing *without* it being / turning into a Ponzi scheme" that's the level on which it's simply true
Thread · Cross-pollinating online courses via recorded conversations
TL;DR of cross-pollination thing is to have a bunch of people running online courses etc have recorded conversations with each other about how their systems/practices/etc interrelate and support each other, then put those convos in the courses. high-bandwidth hyperlink
it's like a referral network except the fundamental unit isn't an affiliate link, it's a *conversation* the convo is valuable even if nobody clicks thru & we share a clear sense that we wouldn't want to do this with people who have high-pressure/coercive marketing/sales pages
so for example, we're gonna have a conversation where we talk about resonances between his @m_ashcroft's Alexander Technique course (Expanding Awareness) and my open-ended goal-setting workshops (Goal-Crafting Intensives), and put that convo into each of our course content
we might do 2 convos per link, one that sort of starts at GCI and moves towards AT, and the other goes in the other direction 🌉 so that it naturally meets people where they're starting, conceptually or in terms of their development/skillset not sure yet!
& doesn't have to be just courses 🤔 - we could do it with apps (that have clear philosophies or perspectives, like complice.co/philosophy) - or we could do it with books! (although I'm not sure where the video would *go* with a book) so we gotchu vv
queering the {online course ↔ podcast} binary
invitation: 1. take the last tweet you wrote, or the first tweet in the last thread you wrote 2. quote tweet it 3. say something about it eg: - generalize it - share the thinking behind it - ask a question about it - express it more poetically (= Method of Levels + twitter)
@speakerjohnash fruit are definitely made to be eaten
@alt_visa gotchu fam
@ThatsMauvelous yes! this is one thing that's cool about living in a culture that records most of its conversations & shares them you get to find out what convos among your friends are like when you're not in them! (I talk about this a lil at the start of this convo) youtube.com/watch?v=lrYVkH…
@imperialauditor so much resonance with this! in 2012 my then-gf said it was gravity, so I did the math & was like "no, an elephant standing right next to you would exert more gravity on you than even the moon" also noticed that the 12 signs have shifted in sky by ~10 days since created
@imperialauditor "okay so what are the implications of this for the rest of the universe?" recent friend-of-friend had gotten excited about remote viewing and was like "I need to do more tests to prove to myself that it works" me: *find out HOW it works (FTFY) (he's a stats professor 😬)
@imperialauditor and ofc this classic (although it's definitely strawmanning what all of these can be; "energy" is basically a homonym here, afaict) xkcd.com/808/

@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg lol if you take it way too literally, there's only one consistent answer to this question:

@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg I'd be very curious how peoples' answers to these questions would differ depending on whether the test is framed as a gender test vs a generic personality test! @SpencrGreenberg you could test this 😮
@Aella_Girl @SpencrGreenberg > You might be interested to know that 3% of people said they felt "a moderate amount of pressure" to conform to their gender stereotype, 19% of people said they felt "a little pressure", and 78% said they felt "no pressure at all". you could see how this correlates with that
Thread · Taking a gender continuum test and questioning survey categories
took gender continuum test. before taking it I would have guessed 60% odds it would peg me as female after answering the Qs, before seeing the reults, guessing closer to 50/50, maybe 60-70% male programs.clearerthinking.org/gender_continu…
great case-study on why averagerianism is confused

however, there is this critique of surveys in general, which I would love to see @SpencrGreenberg's response to carcinisation.com/2020/12/11/sur…
well! impressive I guess, in my case

the generalization of questions into categories is interesting/sus. I answered that I disagreed with violence as a solution to problems but that I sometimes get urges to hurt ppl when angry, and this was summarized "Less Peaceful - more likely to use violence to solve problems"
similarly, 50% of the contribution towards a "compassion" score is from "I would feel very sorry for an animal caught in a trap." this is a critique of whether the questions are meaningful, not a critique of the map-question-responses-to-gender stuff
@InnerOvalCat @Aella_Girl yeah, sometimes you wouldn't be able to come back with a clear "70%", but if someone said 99% for something you knew was closer to 50/50, I can only assume you'd at least tell them they were off, & vv.
😙👌

Retweeted @thetracebrady
my thing is helping you find your thing i've already helped dozens (dozens!) or hundreds if you include speeches (which…
@thetracebrady @SissiPhys right, but you've found some specific others who you're helping with this, is I guess my point :P
@meekaale @RomeoStevens76 oooooooooh I like that
@RomeoStevens76 this is helpful, thanks! but leaving the is-ought language aside, how does one distinguish in PP language between observing something vs manipulating it?
TIL: English didn't have the word "prioritize" until 1972. (actually 6 years ago on this day, but I forgot it so I learned it again today when it came up in fb memories)
@thetracebrady do it :D we'll get you lots of people to talk to do you wanna do calls or chats or twitter-exchanges?
@literalbanana @SpencrGreenberg oh wonderful
@FryeSouthrop whether the Greeks knew this or not, it's ontologically correct Complice goals each have one top priority and people sometimes ask for more and I'm like "sir, did you not see the sign" although there are still "priorities" plural in the sense of one per goal and across time
@FryeSouthrop though once completed, a "priority" in Complice becomes a "milestone", so it actually kind of preserves the presentness of it
Retweeted @metaflav
i’ve been using @CompliceGoals for a few weeks. very interesting to see how some goals evolve as i move towards them. a tr…
@thetracebrady okay, do you have a savvycal or something for people to book calls? (savvycal's not free but I think it's the best booking calendar so if you want I'll cover your costs while you're doing this if you're short on cash)
@thetracebrady huhhh also maybe we could make the calls PWYW + people short on cash could have the option to allocate up to $X-Y of my meta-team fund towards you in support of you doing this work would want to sync with you 1-on-1 before committing to that tho
groove fast and wake things
@StupendousGrav1 they didn't decide, they just did a bunch of stats
@thetracebrady am down to sync 1-on-1 in any case to figure out what makes sense with all of this
@rickyflows my take: leave now unless they're paying you to be there in which case completely stop working now and leave in 4-8mo (I'm not normally *quite* this assertive about it, but your description makes me feel like the choice is clear) see also benkuhn.net/grad/
Retweeted @colingorrie
Underrated strategy for people who have too many interests: just work on whatever you feel like working on at the moment.…
@alt_tatsu perspective-taking
@RomeoStevens76 huh, it feels to me like they're very different types of experience, internally. like I love the clear simplicity of what you're saying here, where the other nodes are territory (although I've only see that in one direction so far) but ...<something>
@RomeoStevens76 maybe another way to approach the Q would be "how would you talk about the difference between doing & nondoing in PP terms?"
wow, this is great resonates with my sense of why I made a lifestyle business that would support my doing whatever I wanted to do, without needing to explain it to anyone
I guess another strategy would be to get funding for one project which is just a front for the actual project you're working on
@michael_nielsen Oh man if you love that movie, you'll love this one (different genre though) youtube.com/watch?v=WAG9Xn…
@danielharan oh? what's the situation? ♥️
@rickyflows nice! if you've got a decent amount of runway, you might consider starting a business a small amount of runway can last longer than you might think, if you're frugal and the business starts making even a bit of money
@sashachapin I love this whole improvised set, but in particular the moment the song "Go Back Home" first *drops*, at 7:55 minutes in, stokes my fires so beautifully. (start @ 0 or 7) The epicness is probably in part bc I know the song so can anticipate it so vividly. youtube.com/watch?v=sCNlt5…
@DanielleFong @sashachapin boom, he nailed it what a neat coincidence
"Technology should fade into the background and feel like nothing." @nothing's tagline ^ reminds me of @viennateng's song Landsailor, featuring the lines: 🎶 Headless and faceless Tireless and seamless behind these walls This is my progress When you don’t notice my lines at all
@liminal_warmth "comments about how some of it was good" does seem partially like hedging, but also legit important for: - perspective-taking with people who are still mostly in touch with the good parts - painting the full picture of how people were attracted to it 👇
@liminal_warmth I've found this article on Sick Systems really helpful for understanding these dynamics as well. (It talks about busyness, tiredness, emotional investment, intermittent reward, and other factors that contribute to this sort of collective insanity cycle.) issendai.com/psychology/sic…
Retweeted @nickcammarata
So much beauty would be added to the world if Google Maps added a scenic vs fast slider It would change incentives and…
@etiennefd @m_ashcroft "...shut up" (including a ♥️ because I don't actually want to shut you down here)
@etiennefd huh, yeah, "(Néologisme) (Anglicisme)"

Retweeted @jonnym1ller
I’m feeling like I’m putting ‘negative effort’ into NSM course design currently, like a 🐢 in the slipstream
have you done any cool stuff recently that took negative effort? (ie it would have taken effort *not to do it*)
@nickcammarata I once spent a tired morning after a nighttime liaison stuck in rushhour traffic through silicon valley instead of having a scenic drive along the coast, because my GPS thought it would be 2 minutes faster (it wasn't even faster; no traffic data) one of my biggest regrets tbh
@utotranslucence @RomeoStevens76 proof that it's possible via presenting an example instance
@utotranslucence @RomeoStevens76 eg if you're like "we call a number 'perfect' iff its factors add up to the number itself" then you're like "prove there are any perfect numbers" then you can say "well check out 6: 1+2+3=6, so 6 is perfect" and you've proven perfect numbers exist without needing any other logic
@flancian @mechanical_monk guaranteed minimum income congrats monk
@alt_visa did this surprise you? this specific effect?
Retweeted @visakanv
confidence is a very trippy concept to investigate, and part of the problem is that it gets too-easily smooshed into a singul…
@eigenrobot vibing & meta-vibing
@m_ashcroft @eigenrobot viber at large
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
i don’t advertise this particularly loudly but fwiw i am willing to be both the math tutor and the psychologist (well, the…
Retweeted @AgnesCallard
Socrates: our souls are reincarnated through a series of tunnels in the earth Commentators: ok cool Socrates: Ordinary…
very excited to have this "negative effort" concept flow more feels like a different angle on non-doing although it's also different
@etiennefd looks like "priority" in English came from Old French in the first place 🤷♀️🙃

@etiennefd at any rate I'm almost aggressively anti-prescriptivist about language, so I'm like "wooo loanwords, yay cross-pollination, fyeah neologisms!"
Retweeted @myceliummage
have you considered your presence amidst us is a gift for which we are grateful (so very)
Retweeted @chasemerlin
Finally checked out @CompliceGoals and really like it. Complice is a goal management app that starts from higher-order go…
@QiaochuYuan "what if it were great tho?" 👑
@visakanv neopets was where I learned html <3
Retweeted @RomeoStevens76
Your shadow stuff may be “deeper” in the sense of “more buried” but that doesn’t make it “more profound” -@Malcolm_Ocea…
@DesidErratum @RomeoStevens76 Yeah what? Context? Am very curious about this.
@SarahAMcManus Sarah to me just now: "I have a terrible idea!" me: "...let's do it!" Sarah: "thrill's should make a thing that looks like a tide pod but is safe to eat (and tastes like soap)
Retweeted @RomeoStevens76
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@quotidiania I'm a really affectionate dude 🤷♀️
@quotidiania @QiaochuYuan Yeah parts of my extended family are well-adjusted "ordinary" people, working legible jobs & raising kids, and watching the adults spat at the dinner table (siblings or spouses) is awful. Immature bickering, whining, fussing, snapping. Their lives are fine but also deeply bleh.
@quotidiania @QiaochuYuan Is there an existence proof for a person that is actually flourishing?
@temeton_blue @quotidiania legit, I grew up climbing into my parents' waterbed on weekend mornings to snuggle with them
@brother_nin likewise! it seems possible that such a group would sort of have to be very illegible or invisible otherwise 100× would want to join it and it would have a lot of trouble managing the demand without going nuts (either by excluding or including too many people)
@quotidiania @jessicamalonso @temeton_blue my Dream Mashups post seems relevant this 👇 highlights the different layers of what's happening: she did a thing, and it bothers you and it legit bothers you! but most of the reaction is not about her specifically which is hard to clarify in the moment malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…

@quotidiania @jessicamalonso @temeton_blue to the extent that you can get clear on that in yourself, in a way that you can access in the moment, you might be able to simultaneously let her know you're having a reaction while also clearly communicating that in some sense you just want to be held/heard & for that to be ok
@quotidiania @jessicamalonso @temeton_blue it's really hard to do though! & I hated feeling like I had to take it on ♥️ @SarahAMcManus might be able to share some writing she did months ago sorting out some frames that were adding extra difficulty to challenging experiences of me being overwhelmed & baby-esque at times
@AndBeyond_N @The_Lagrangian huh literally all the suggestions under the yandex one seem like awful porn genres tho😬 (I guess that's who actually ever searches that phrase in practice)

@KasraKaley @SlaapMe seems fine I guess, not really sure what it's supposed to do? could use more puppy, even just an emoji in the title
Thread · Explaining the good corner of Twitter to people who don't use it · 5 of 6 tweets
Met some folks in a park today, and said "so yeah, hit me up on facebook or twitter" and got a response like "twitter?! 😲" (not the first time this has happened) and I explained that there's a small but growing scene that's actually good, and she seemed curious to check it out!
I described people supporting each other's "do 100 things" project, like "oh wow great drawing, I'd buy a print of that" and various other elements of the vibe.
I said "we talk about what makes for good community, too" which she appreciated, and I listed things like "not dunking on bad takes because it just signal boosts them"... instead we
Many people who don't use twitter still cannot *imagine* that we're having this much fun & learning & connection here. They react like I'm telling them I'm throwing a chill party in a warzone. More disbelief than judgment or concern, just like "what?"
Curious who else has gotten a reaction like this when they talk about strangely earnest twitter in person!
The more of me I bring, the more of me there is. The more of you you bring, the more of you there is. The more of you you bring, the more of me I feel invited to bring. The more of me I bring, the more of you you feel invited to bring. It's gonna be one hell of a party.
So far 4 friends saying they've each had multiple instances of people responding like this. Those people won't *all* want to join us here, but gradually more will... a tipping point I hadn't been tracking(!?)
Thread · Explaining the good corner of Twitter to people who don't use it · 1 of 6 tweets
every moment is full stack metaⁿ-level ⋮ process-level ⋮ object-level
@visakanv reminds me of this lovely comic which I'd gasp with shock & excitement if you haven't read yet kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a…

@visakanv which in turn reminds me of my ribbonfarm guest post: ribbonfarm.com/2017/08/10/que…
follow people you want to talk to and talk to them
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This is gorgeous, I often struggle with bringing my full self into situations despite it almost always being a very po…
@ZaymonTheUnwise welcome! also welcome to your fears & struggles they are also invited! see if you can gently find out what their experiences are and bring those in contact with the experiences you've had of it working well
Wow, great piece on improvisation by @daemonhugger! some major right hemisphere stuff going on here for sure the article: dudejustloveyourself.com

@daemonhugger The Music Lesson by Victor Wooten, if you are (or would like to be) a musician
@daemonhugger oh wait you're an improv guy The Music Lesson has a great take on improv too, on a really deep level (anyway, the audiobook is the *obvious* way to do it because you can't put music in a stack of paper)
@RichDecibels redact tweet button when
follow people you want to talk with and talk with them
soooo sometimes people talk to you and then you talk with them and then you become wiser so this tweet has been revised take your likes & RTs here 👇 (unless you think "talk to" is better I guess!)
@visakanv that is one of the main things about my blog it's entirely composed of sincere questions and sincere answers
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was asked a interesting question by @Malcolm_Ocean – what was it that drew me to him all the way back in 2015, that made me r…
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Tfw you chat with someone so ambitious you realize you could think bigger. Like an order of magnitude bigger.
@visakanv more ppl need to find their negative effort things
@visakanv which is why I'm promoting people helping people figure out what their things are
@visakanv @thetracebrady's "weird as fuck" energy here vibes with both the can't-not-do stuff and the "fucking crazy" energy of visa's tweet I'm branching off of here twitter.com/thetracebrady/…
"I haven't met anybody who even imagines the need for such a group." MOOD. (@AskYatharth I feel this fairly often, related to the outer reaches of my vision we were talking about today)
@visakanv I've gotta crosslink this if someone wants a rabbit-hole:
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Today's personal is tomorrow's political, next week's fashionable, next month's profitable, next year's passé …
@visakanv I love to see it
@davidfactorial this is GREAT, wow hi, you feel alive and present (particularly in these tweets but also in general) and I am very glad you're hanging out and doing stuff and talking to people anyway yeah that's a thing that happens (I've felt it too) and it'll probably untangle itself
I haven't met many people who look at the designed world and imagine the need for it to be good tho.
Thread · Self-paced co-learning and the freedom to talk back to the teacher · 1 of 9 tweets
Was feeling vaguely aware of this thread today when on a private instructional call (combined theory & practice) I proposed that instead of the instructor presenting the slides, the learners did (which made the already-known fact that we already had a lot of background v obvious)
@meekaale @visakanv huh, I've found sometimes streaming does this to me, but then I fall in love with something again have you considered getting an ipod shuffle 2gen or 4gen and loading some fav songs onto it? (can use without itunes using a lil script)
minimum viable flocking rules for having a good time on twitter, as a crowdsourced QT thread How to Play: reply to the last tweet in the thread with a failure mode someone might have if they only followed the rules listed so far, & QT a rule that would avert that trap
^ this tweet was originally "talk to" but then talking occurred and I changed my mind 🙃 many such cases!
@visakanv original tweet is gone... was this the video? youtube.com/watch?v=4I_NYy…
@visakanv wowwwwwww
@replyallguy @gptbrooke do you feel drawn towards uplevelling your reply game? conversation, *especially* on twitter, isn't per se about "who" people want to talk to, but what sorts of conversations they want to have, and whether you know how to read & create invitations
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@replyallguy @gptbrooke do you feel drawn towards uplevelling your reply game? conversation, *especially* on twitter, i…
@visakanv this one came up when I searched too; it's clearly not it and I'm not really into the "bit" that is the intro, but it's a great energy after it gets going youtube.com/watch?v=QVeTmh…
@visakanv although this is some sax #2 guy energy right here 🤫📹

Thread · Choosing a MIDI keyboard with built-in speakers · 1 of 9 tweets
I am intending to buy a midi keyboard 🎹 help me pick one 😀 (or tag someone who can?) desiderata 🤔 - pitch-bend thingy - probably 61-88 keys - has built-in speakers - works with @bitwig - ??? (ask me Qs to help me figure out what I care about!)
@replyallguy @gptbrooke ...correct! I just took a min & scrolled through his last 6mo of Obama's "tweets with replies" ctrl+f-ing "replying to" and literally none of them are replies—to anyone. so he's clearly not here to talk with people! still not about who you are, but about what game he's playing
importantly, you have to follow other people *who are also here to talk with people* if you want to talk with people some people only want to broadcast & that's fine! we can still remix their tweets if we want, but otherwise they're not even *on twitter*
Retweeted @SteveStuWill
This is cool: A diagram showing where all the energy we use comes from, tracing it back ultimately to the Big Bang 🤯 http…
@replyallguy @gptbrooke so yeah, not those people! most of them aren't even playing a reply game at all I don't even consider them "on twitter" in the sense in which I am, tbh but there are famous people who do reply to random people—Elon Musk comes to mind, but many, many more
@daemonhugger I know nothing about it but it sounds great
@replyallguy @gptbrooke like you might as well be complaining that you can't talk to Famous Person X because they don't have a twitter account at all like.... okay? sure? but that's not about you 🤷♀️ who's *here* that you might have a good conversation with?
@fortelabs yeah incentivizing preorders is one of the best way to hit the amazon top list
@fortelabs and then (I forget where I heard this) but getting people to ask about & buy your book at the handful of bookstores NYT uses for their bestseller list can make an impact on that front
@fortelabs I once preordered of Zero To One in exchange for getting mailed a pre-print review version—immediately! (which I liked the cover of better tbh, and it included an image that got cut from the main version because they couldn't secure the rights) (signed? I forget)
@andrewchen early access to the book worked for me once:
Thread · Unfollowing to keep Twitter a conversation web, not void-shouting · 7 of 8 tweets
unfollow people you don't want to talk with
this is kind of what I meant to say with this tweet
it's not enough (imx) to follow people you want to talk with and talk with them if you're *also* following a bunch of accounts that - annoy you - NEWS at you - are just self-promotion because it makes the whole room feel like void-shouting, not convo-web
this tweet of mine from Jan 2018 points at an important phase in this whole scenius coming together I'd been following 1200+ people from early years on twitter, and pared that back to <400
I follow a few non-conversation accounts around like @threat_update or @NYT_first_said or funny accounts etc, but all ones that feel playful and like they enhance the vibe—and not very many of them!
I used to follow a lot of ppl I thought were cool, but either I never had anything to say to them in response to what they were tweeting, or I realized I wanted to *impress* them more than talk with them (you know how a room goes weird if a very high-status person walks in?)
so it took a bit of internal clarifying, but it's consistently felt good to unfollow people I don't enjoy talking with, even if I sorta feel like I should follow them and I can always follow them again later
@daemonhugger @metaLulie "0 Following" 🤣 Well, you don't have to use the built-in twitter "follow" feature. You're clearly somehow playing a more advanced game, & still finding convos you want. OH! here's the advanced thing: don't follow people you *don't* want to talk with!

Thread · Unfollowing to keep Twitter a conversation web, not void-shouting · 1 of 8 tweets
this thread inspired by seeing that @daemonhugger is following nobody, and realizing that it felt to me like he was succeeding at what I meant when I said "follow people you want to talk with and talk with them"
talking with @thetracebrady and he said "I was thinking about the concept of a perpetual serendipity machine" and I'm like "have you haeard of @jgreenhall's "serendipity engine" concept?" and he was like "WAT plz send" 20min video:
realized on a call with @thetracebrady that I could have explicitly pointed at this with a "if you think you might be good at helping people figure this out, lmk and I'll support you in that!" so close, but didn't quite do it
but a year later, found my way back anyway!
"instead of getting a deal with the devil, you get a subscription" —a friend of mine
@solarsystern - you did this? I'd be interested in commissioning something similar 😮

I'm not going to say it's been a pleasure but it's been an experience, and one I will treasure
the paradox of blindspot feedback: in order to convey something to someone, you need to match their frame but once you match their frame, the thing you're trying to say no longer makes any sense
Thread · Rationality only exists within a frame · 1 of 5 tweets
"this esoteric one implies that if you see someone go from doing rational things to irrational things, what happened was they just switched frames" — @DanielTabakman
@MauiMescudi not on the big scale I just closed a challenging but ultimately deeply satisfying conversation with these words
Thread · Rationality only exists within a frame · 1 of 5 tweets
@DanielTabakman @DanielTabakman elaborates "ohhhh, you know what the implication of this is? within a frame, choice is an illusion" Me: "which leaves only frame choice I guess.... whatever that is 🙃"
tired: integration wired: outegration
I just had 12h straight of zoom calls with only a 15min walking break at like hour 2... (forgot to eat during most of that) ...and I feel *amazing* 😮 Such rich connections, such beautiful people. Live, real stuff. Making sense of the universe and each other together. Co-flow.
@maskys_ @thetracebrady @RaymonddeOlive1 @SunnyDisposish1 @DanielTabakman & a few others who aren't on twitter 🙏 & shoutout to @AskYatharth who I had a similarly amazing convo with last night
Who is remembered? What is greatness? asleepthinking.com/blog/terrence-…

OTOH, while Beethoven had a point, Geothe maybe also had a point, as this commenter points out (though there's maybe a pre-trans fallacy here) thread on this

well-timedly, I came across this article at the same time I came across this tweet, expressing a very similar sentiment (and somehow managed to find both tabs at once among a hundred open tabs 😆)

@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF appreciation of both of you 🥰
was looking at 2 sizes of same pillow on amazon. same price. kinda wanted larger one. smaller one had $5 off coupon. hmm... didn't recall seeing that coupon yesterday... refreshed the page on the larger one... $7 off coupon! !?
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people are sacred, conversations are worship
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Worship is a conversation, sacredness is personality. People are worship Sacredness is a conversation. Conversat…
Thread · Choosing a MIDI keyboard with built-in speakers · 6 of 9 tweets
@Bitwig for context, I got back into keyboard by borrowing a friend's keyboard for 1.5y, which was pretty similar to this one but 88 keys and fewer knobs (Yamaha; thought I'd written down the model but apparently not) this might be roughly what I want?

I value speakers because I'd like to be able to take it places & jam, or improvise on it while working at my desk, without having to have it set up to a whole DAW just to make sounds MIDI *keyboard*, not MIDI *controller* (maybe nobody says "MIDI kb" bc all electric kbs MIDI?)
so yeah, @midijeffg, I guess built-in sound card is actually more important—could have external speaker I don't have a good model of what's going on here, but I want the thing to work as a ~standalone device in addition to being an input device for Bitwig twitter.com/midijeffg/stat…
the idea of having extra knobs & sliders to control bitwig sounds pretty dope—dunno what I'd do with those yet but it has lots of cool plugins to control twitter.com/midijeffg/stat…
I don't know if I care about weighted keys—I think it's not a major factor, but ceteris paribus I'd prefer them
in terms of hours spent, mainly playing but I do also want to actually record/produce some tracks using MIDI+bitwig! so needs to be multipurpose
@hormeze @Open1ndividual @owenbroadcast oh man, totally! sometimes things are a mix of bad & good in fact, *USUALLY* things are a mix of bad & good common frames don't appreciate this though, which makes it hard to talk about
check out the shadows 🤭 youtube.com/watch?v=T3E9Wj…
@ethanshamilton I'll check it out! I'm using bitwig mostly because I'm on Linux and was unimpressed by the rest of what I saw. One or two things are still annoying about it (3 button presses to record a new track? 😒) but overall it's ❤️🔥
@ethanshamilton @Bitwig 16 RGB Perf Pads = mini launchpad? "Playing an organ part? In addition to controlling the levels in your DAW, the nine faders are your drawbars." 🤩 "sustain, expression, and 3 assignable auxiliary pedal jacks. " 😮 (I don't *need* these but I love the vibe)
@carlcaulkett @ethanshamilton My laptop's main output currently goes to some studio monitors as speakers and I have my partner's ex's old Komplete audio interface that looks v similar to the 2i2, which Bitwig likes and uses for I/O (I plug headphones into their monitor)

@carlcaulkett @ethanshamilton if I got the Arturia KeyLab MkII, how much other gear would I need with me to make music? just some speakers + cable? Or also a pre-amp? Or my laptop too? I'm okay with some of that I guess, but I'd like to be able to play the keyboard while my laptop is off, eg just before bed
@ricvolpe that looks lovely I used something called manageflitter, which was quite good (many ways to sort followees: loud, quiet, recent, old, etc) but they changed how they work in the last few years so I don't think it does the same thing anymore (or not for free, idk)
@groundedSAGE @dismaien @TylerAlterman @__drewface @BlackForestBoi
@mattx1b you could ask someone in the moment what it's like, and then compare that with their memory from my experience this seems to check out with most altered states I've encountered in myself or others
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No! Kids do not have to learn respect! This is one of the most common things I have heard in my 25 years practicing N…
@VectorOfBasis @diviacaroline +1 to this worth basically everybody spending a few minutes every few months on this page and picking a star rating for everything though amazon.ca/review/review-…
@the_wilderless idk man, rooibos, herbal teas, dandelion blend (tastes coffee-esque but no caffeine) ...could even just have decaf coffee
@kaisoapbox @kenshirriff @visakanv bam! also got it. wasn't very confident lol but okay might have done worse if I hadn't expected to be able to tell despite not knowing any of the history are these real questions?
@daemonhugger @mattx1b @metaLulie yo just make the link bigger bro ppl can click if they want existing is not self-promomotion
@davidfactorial hm?
@HephaistosF Mmm, that's a good heuristic! I like some stuff about the "good tho" frame in the context of some of what I'm doing, because of how it highlights how most things aren't even good. But for other things, yeah, awesome seems better to aim for.
@mattx1b Say more about “Awakening or bust — NOT.”! Are you saying Henry Shukman has a more spacious outlook than that?
@HephaistosF @DanielTabakman I tried an experiment on the call with Daniel last night of considering that perhaps my experience is composed of fractal frames consisting of each ontum of my perceptual control hierarchy, then tried playing Stairway to Heaven on my uke & experienced them all at once. Trippy!

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Trying to think of a historical example of a hyperachiever who (1) joined some sort of cloistered group that promised to mold…
reading about Toki Pona I'm reminded of @daemonhugger's description of the value of doing improv in gibberish do we have to pay more attention to the process of co-creating meaning with each other when we can't be verbally precise?
huh, @visakanv, what about throwing in like 1% Singlish into your tweets? particularly words that feel really missing from English enough for people in the scene to become familiar with some new meanings without getting overwhelmed
eg I've managed to infer that "tahan" must mean something like "put up with [it]/endure/tolerate" based on its use twice in this work (just the once wouldn't have worked though, and twice still wasn't enough for me to recall it from memory)
probably if you were to do this it would actually start by doing a thread for a given word, so that when someone asks you what the word means you are prepared 😂
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I think objectively speaking "guy achieves childhood dreams and is absolutely delighted, full of joy & gratitude" should be s…
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@visakanv I sometimes sing a song (usually one I've written) to someone as a way to express what I have to say about what we're talking about.
yo @hormeze if you haven't read this Leonard Cohen poem, well uhh, here it is for you to read The Drunk is Gender-Free

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Last week I gave this challenge a go and prototyped twisa.volpato.io Not exactly a curated thread of threads, but a p…
@ricvolpe @visakanv wow, awesome one small bit of feedback is that the buttons at the top don't display state, like there's no way to see what it's actually sorted by just put a glow around the active one or something and cursor:pointer on hover
There's a moment in the feral free agent journey, when you close the loop, when you have made something you love and someone bought it and you go "oh, I want to live like that!" A friend buying what you made is a good step, but it hits different when it's a stranger.
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“If it feels like work, you’d rather be doing something else. Just go do that something else.” Weirdly, this is leading m…
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Swapping anecdotes with colleagues of times we've dropped the ball at work and one came out with 'Dropping a ball would impl…
"make sure by the time you lose interest, something's published" me summarizing @visakanv's "just get out the minimum viable write-up on something" = ADHD strategy part of why twitter is such a powerful platform relates to @fortelabs's "intermediate packet" concept
every book on communication could be re-titled: How To Not Trigger Me The Author In Particular (And Maybe Some Other People)
Thread · Designing goal-setting prompts that evoke your own whys
Many such cases, no doubt. Hmm... what can we do about this? exploration thread 🧵 t.co/WmRWUCQMrB
The initial goal-setting page is already pretty bold about going right to the heart of what's important to the individual, not just what they think is important. Here's the thread where I improved that a lot:
Is the framing of "goals" still getting in the way, even though it's not in the foreground on that page? Would it be better to just switch to "whys"?
Or maybe some people would need to be guided through a little meditation first, in order to tap into their deeper sense of what they want rather than their concept of what should be the highest level of their goal hierarchy. But others would hate that, hm.
Ideally the prompts would directly evoke peoples' own goals, but another approach would be to just include a step in the goal-setting wizard that's like "does it feel should-like? is it yours? reframe it until it really feels exciting & inspiring"
One exercise that can be helpful for this, that I came up with years ago, I call "Just Do A Thing (that nobody’s expecting you to do)" (& don't tell anybody you're doing it!) This can be a great way to find something you want to do for intrinsic reasons! malcolmocean.com/2015/11/just-d…
Discerning the difference between what you really want and what you think you want is huge. Hard to overstate the importance.
To some extent, probably you kinda have to try things to find which are yours & which are others, like @davidfactorial did which prompted him to tweet about this in the first place, but design makes a difference: "what should you have accomplished by now already?" = obvsly worse
Also to some extent these things can be entangled. You may want to do something, and you have a mix of your own reasons and others' reasons for wanting to do it. A mix of your own *meanings* and others' meanings.
I'm not gonna change the app today but this has got me seriously thinking... Wouldn't be that hard to rename goals "whys", if I thought that was net good. Could record a 2-3 min video that's optionally on that goal-setting page, to invite people to reach for their own dreams.
if you don't think it's possible to improve on a given axis, try checking if you could make things worse
eg me trying to encourage self-authored goals, and coming up with the awful prompt: "what should you have accomplished by now already?"
Retweeted @mechanical_monk
@averykimball I like UBI because we're now at productivity levels where we can power the entire economy with male stat…
wow, this singlish demo is very cool. useful to see the same phrase inflected differently. I want to learn these inflectionals (or whatever they're called) reminds me a bit of lojban, but... chiller 😛
@42irrationalist yeah seems like two things 1. people don't know what they want, and think they want all sorts of things they don't want 2. people don't know how to thoroughly enjoy getting what they in fact want
Epic table of contents from Scale by Geoffrey West: Tag yourself, I'm integrating the social with the physical.




@Trent_STEMpunk oooh, not yet: all I've done is dive into the book after hearing it referenced by @jgreenhall in his Civium intro
Thread · A running collection of tables of contents I love · 1 of 6 tweets
Wow. This book is an impressive convo of technical+rigorous and playful+casual, and the table of contents reveals that immediately.
@0th_disciple @sirsfurther @selentelechia @imperialauditor Yeah, this article talks about various techniques as an aid to intuition, even by just subverting our pattern-matching & procedural minds using randomness, so early humans would be able to hunt in unpredictable ways. slatestarcodex.com/2019/06/04/boo…
Retweeted @captain_mrs
🎶 school boat, boat that's a school 🎶
@captain_mrs do you actually have a melody for this? we could make a lil track 😮
@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF idk man seems like a lot of tension to carry in my brow all the time 😛
@mattx1b Bahahaha amazing. Yo @DanielTabakman how does this stuff map onto what we were talking about the other night?
I resonate with this and would also like suggestions.
@AskYatharth "Too many open browser tabs" would have been my answer the last couple days, but I have now taken care of them.
kinda wack that many times a week I hit play on an album of music knowing nothing about it other than the cover art, name & artist name (but nothing about the artist) app-based genres have always sucked / been too narrow but @YoutubeMusic doesn't even include genres at all

o shit this is trippy music definitely electronica... started off chill then did a dubsteppy kind of drop now 150bpm trance ...then suddenly chill ambient synths & lil piano notes (track 1, Sojourn) youtube.com/watch?v=a7yRk5…
Okay, here's a wild take: your first goal on Complice should just be called "The Thing" 😂 Whatever the thing is, for you, that's your first goal.
yo new followers! there are a lot of you 😮❤️🔥 I have some questions: what... is your name? what... is your quest? what... is your favorite colour?
@JakeOrthwein Wow, lovely.
@joespurpleshirt I've been using DevaCurl No-Poo & One Condition for years. Their shampoo alternative doesn't foam (no SLS) so it's really gentle for curly/wavy hair. Recently got into AOBiome skin microbiome tech, and their kit includes a tiny thingy of probiotic shampoo+cond which seems okay.
@davidfactorial may you fall asleep feeling snuggled by the entire universe
@captain_mrs Oh shit, that makes a ton of sense.
hipness is... what it is hipness is... what it is hipness is... what it is but sometimes hipness is... what it ain't! hipness is neither what it is, nor what it ain't! but also hipness is both what it is, and what it ain't!
Think of thinking as a conversation with yourself. Think of conversation as collective thought. Both directions of this analogy are super fruitful. I think it's one we make unconsciously anyway, and confusions of how one works often manifest as confusions of how the other works.
@Trent_STEMpunk @jgreenhall This network theory? Interesting interesting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_t…
@Trent_STEMpunk @jgreenhall Btw if you haven't checked out Civium I would highly recommend it. Fascinating concept building on Scale's ideas towards the idea of a single global city (at least for some purposes)
@visakanv wow, india bigger than I thought probably some mercator projection shit
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a thing I struggle with all the time is trying to be socially appropriate with people – being friendly, kind, gentle, thought…
The Butterfly Paradox: supposedly, tiny changes have big impacts, and yet in practice what single tiny flap could you make that would make a meaningful difference on purpose? Why is this? (I have some guesses but I'll let folks speculate before I post mine)
@deliprao one of my best moves on this front was using a bluetooth keyboard to type on my phone while it's in focus mode (no notifications or distracting apps) usually into google docs because the sync is so simple and consistent, then would import into roam later (airplane mode ok too)
what if it were good tho
haven't had a working phone for about a week, since I left it drying for a few days then afterwards it seems to not be charging properly not sure what my plan is secretly I've been enjoying not having a phone tbh way more present as I walk around
how could I have the best of both worlds? I think I'd like a Device for Augmented Walking: - podcast & music app - google maps + calendar - ability to message friends to coordinate location ...but yeah! I don' think it needs a web browser or any social media or other apps, tbh.
oh, would need to take photos, obviously I've been borrowing Sarah's phone a little but I haven't connected it to internet at all and photos are literally the only thing I've used it for so far (oh wait no plus I put my nap mp3 on it today because my shuffle needed charging)
@peak_valley_pea google's search snippets pulled out the list of "don'ts" as advice for what to do
Thread · We don't have time to rush · 1 of 4 tweets
we don't have time to rush
@visakanv ayyy lmao
Thread · We don't have time to rush · 1 of 4 tweets
it's too late not to go slow
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Where can I find out about the online microcommunities that young people are building? When I wrote my last (!!) academic…
@PlayNiceInst @__drewface want to talk about some of your experiences?
@visakanv @PlayNiceInst this is reminding me also of your desire to get a bunch of write-ups about historical scenes how do we get write-ups of live scenes, or of scenes that existed like 2019-2020, too?
@visakanv could maybe get @images_ai or some similar system to compose such a thing "cyberpunk city in the style of <this painting>" would be better if actually done by hand though I think
schedule is so fucking full of so many amazing fucking things goddamn, gotta ascend to new levels to figure out how to organize all these possibilities

maybe the solution would be rooting an android phone and making a modified version of cyanogenmod or something where you have two accounts and one of them is extremely restricted and in order to log into the other you have to reboot and wait a minute so could use in a pinch
@Jeanvaljean689 @joespurpleshirt I was just gonna say dancing but yes converting music into bodyshapes
@sunofdopamine @visakanv I've got a 4k linux screen from @system76 and I love it
@visakanv seems like there might be some wisdom you need to hold onto which is still coupled with the misery, but doesn't have to be the important thing is not to compartmentalize the misery away as you reach higher ie to have what @HFreinacht calls "depth"
thread of times @visakanv realized what's missing from his book
(apparently only 2 so far but I still found this amusing enough to want to tweet it—hopefully this'll be it for Introspect but there'll probably be more for his next 5 books)
@visakanv Mason has a thread that resonates with yours but which I also find subtly amusing because it's framing the thing as "introspecting" which is your book title what's your best pitch for what introspecting will get us, Visa, if not Muskdom?
@utotranslucence @Conaw is on a hiatus as of a bit over a week ago!
"if you think of your own ideas as kind of an engine, then if the exhaust is blocked up the engine will stop running" — @Conaw (he might be referencing someone else, idk)

@visakanv and meanwhile you're the guy who notices and asks nicely before RTing something from an account with only a dozen followers
@joodaloop I have a list of people I'd like to sponsor.
@bungoman @anonymiserly do another one that's like "do you have on file the names of all eight of your great grandparents (no asking relatives, but you're allowed to look in your own notes)?"
wow I would have guessed the correlations the opposite way on this! curious where most of these non-Americans are from
@QiaochuYuan @selentelechia @default_friend @eigenrobot whether or not this tweet aged poorly depends on how many roommates someone has 😂
@jonnym1ller I don't think that actually works? Like they'll help a bit but the amount of fossil fuels we've been burning is at least 10000 years worth of trees and if you told me I was missing 5 zeros I'd believe you.
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@sharanvkaur @visakanv this is great guys knew I could count on yall to help
@kenakennedy @speakerjohnash @FutureThinkers_ @jim_rutt that would be pretty awesome & would help solve my full calendar 😅 so yeah, I'm broadly down for any combo that makes sense to people I've spoken briefly with AK & FT before, and have been meaning to reach out to @jim_rutt about ProtoBs for a few months
@peak_valley_pea oh this is me saying "this is not good, what if it were good"
@visakanv @pragueyerrr @WhyEnggWhy
@pragueyerrr @visakanv @WhyEnggWhy
@andaVargas yeah this happened to me too
@visakanv yeah I knew it would happen sooner or later 🌊
@visakanv allow me to introduce you to this brilliant song by Canadian poets Barenaked Ladies youtube.com/watch?v=hm8yG8…
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Existing is not self-promotion. — @Malcolm_Ocean
@visakanv huh, yeah might be able to bust some assumptions about the design space by not trying to answer "on what dimensions can I think of improvements?" until you've thoroughly enumerated potential dimensions of change
@empathy2000 too lazy to retake test but not too lazy to answer all "neither agree nor disagree" then modify the html to display results from previous times I took the test to get the nice pretty bar chart idk what that says about my personality 😅

@visakanv @jessicamalonso @empathy2000 you mean "that's why you agree with visa 73% of the time much" 😜 (also hi I am a more extreme version of you guys or something?)
Thread · You can't make new old friends · 3 of 6 tweets
I mean you can, but not as old as the old ones you can't make new childhood friends once you're in high school you can't make new high school friends in college you can't make new college friends in your 30s you can't "go way back with" people you meet in your 60s
the implications of this aren't totally clear, but as I've come to appreciate it it's made me cherish the close relationships I have with people I've known a long time and want to gently kindle the ones that are falling out of touch
picking up with old friends is remarkably possible, if it's still a good fit now your heart remembers the laughs you've shared
@jonnym1ller @ceisenstein new slogan: "Untangle Climate Change"
@visakanv I apparently intuitively thought "ayyy" when I searched just now then corrected to "ayy" and found this poll with 2h left

@jonnym1ller ASMR-quality mics
@jonnym1ller (and the other stuff ofc)
@prerationalist @visakanv riffing, wondering if it should say something about courage itself visa if you point me at your table of contents or something I will riff names
@peak_valley_pea honestly it's one of those things that (like microwaves) has gone backwards although in this case due to real pressures—indexing the internet is harder than before I'm really not sure how to make snippets better... I don't understand how/why they're as bad as they are
@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @zachphillips I am so stoked for this, thanks for reminding me
@thefailyshow @joodaloop could happen I would have to see you doing a bunch of cool shit first the whole thing has this kind of vibe
@maiab people don't understand feedback loops I have a rant if you want to feel understood: malcolmocean.com/2015/12/interf…
@DanielleFong @PeterDiamandis yeah, fossil fuels represent millions of years worth of plants being burned in a few centuries, so we need a whole different kind of solution (based on Carboniferous Period as being 60M y long)
@jonnym1ller ah maybe only 3.5 zeros
@DanielleFong aiming towards everyone being creators & learners
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in this house we believe in: - let curiosity drive - QT to support, never to dunk - joke about outcomes you want - introduce…
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@captain_mrs @me_ander relationships are made out of "you had to be there"
@captain_mrs @LordChisholm this may be of interest curious also what moves have helped you here!
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the feeling of eating a contradiction is so satisfying
@BlackForestBoi gives me "leverage points" vibes
@visakanv me at 22: > I'm about to say something that would seriously drop the jaw of my 15-year-old self: > "I'm not particularly interested in working at Google right now."

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"who am i? what do i want? how do i get started? ahhhh!" finding "your thing" can be frustrating af especially without…
you don't know until you know
@visakanv am 29 now (note also it was Jan 2015)
@strangestloop @visakanv also talk seriously about the outcomes you want
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some of y’all be like “I’m gonna be really naughty 😈 I’m gonna shitpost 😈😈 Okay here I go 😈😈😈 Ahem… Why do they call…
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Ok, I'm only a few days into my trial of @CompliceGoals and I'm already very impressed with what @Malcolm_Ocean has create…
lil nudges make a difference
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unemployment makes you sexier
What percentage of the people you follow follow @visakanv? Go to twitter.com/visakanv and see how many of the people you follow follow Visa = V Go to your own profile and see how many people you follow total = F divide Visa-followers by Followed-total V÷F =
@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF I think I hit this thing last night though it had a totally different flavor than the language above. but it made me make this face and something clicked and became obvious
@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF this 👇 was sort of the something but it was more like "oh, I know what I would need to do in order to live my life like that" which the people I was talking to at the time thought was 2nd path A&p (!) (I'm still very model agnostic)
Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets
I wanna play wif otters! 🦦 (HT @SarahAMcManus 🥰) twitter.com/buitengebieden…
@metaLulie yisss
@metaLulie (tho if you feel like having some constraints, that can be fun too)
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get rid of constraints and just do what you feel like, what your body wants, what clean base feelings you’d have if your hea…
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just read Making Sense of Behavior perceptual control theory is an incredible model holy shit (H/t @Malcolm_Ocean)
@infinitsummer my error is decreasing on my reference level for how many people are pct pilled
@visakanv @kenakennedy <voice who="Monty Python"> only the true messiah would deny his divinity! </voice>
@selentelechia @eigenrobot very psychoactive, yup the longer book allowed me to find a state in a few minutes that made some long-time meditator friends jealous
@mechanical_monk meanwhile there are enough problems to solve to occupy 10-100× as many people, if we could figure out how to point out the existence of these problems and possible solutions
@valor_zhang @altsanabo @p_millerd I'm working on a concept called barn-raising, which is about helping give someone a final push to finish a business project!
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I want to help more people enter the solo / indie world If you are seriously thinking about it in the next couple of years,…
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Excellent thread of someone articulating the staleness problems that plague backlog-based to-do systems. Complice is al…
@visakanv wow the 2nd one here really gives me playing card vibes

@visakanv Dionysus youtube.com/watch?v=FcaifW…
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Intersection between Perceptual Control Theory and Alexander Technique style expansion of awareness as a way to consciously…
@DanielTabakman @HephaistosF practice but specifically practicing the thing the thing being something like "getting in touch with full-fractal buy-in" including practicing waiting when it's not obvious how to do that which was an obvious-in-retrospect piece I was missing
@natural_hazard @Tjdriii tentative agreement with what you're saying here, though it's close to views that concern me like cool that you're having this insight for yourself but if you try to tell someone else to approach it this way, get stuffed 👇
@natural_hazard yeah something deep to honor there it suddenly becomes "oh, ofc you can't tell. that makes sense! if you could tell, we wouldn't be here. and it doesn't help to assume you should be able to tell—usually makes things worse"
@utotranslucence Wow, what a story. Thanks for sharing 🙏
@coladaclan @sonnenmimi @davidfactorial @temeton_blue @meekaale @Witchuals @tasshinfogleman @_StevenFan @metaphorician @pragueyerrr @this_is_silvia @visakanv Yesssss you teach dancing like I do ❤️🔥🤩 it's kinda like a kon-mari approach to dancing, just like, make some movements, try stuff, do more of what feels good, repeat (I've got some complex lateral knee & hip bobs to this track you shared)
@meekaale @orthonormalist @selentelechia I think the two of you are kinda talking past each other. If I were to restate what I think @meekaale was positing, I'd say something like "humans have intrinsic reference levels that map onto {paradise/heaven, shared meaning, trustable authority} & religion solves these"
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There are ~20 pendulums like this that, if we learned them in school, would defang most ideologies and startup ideas. https://…
@selentelechia @hormeze yesssss glad to have lovely people I know connecting
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i was once at a workshop with a guy who started the workshop by cynically bringing up a bunch of PUA talking points about…
@TurnkeyTyranny @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @RomeoStevens76 @Plinz @SarahAMcManus @jerhadf Ooof I'm not even sure how I'd go about expressing how confused this is, because I'm having trouble empathizing with the sort of perspective that would want to use them in the first place. The labels seem weird & passive aggressive too.
@TurnkeyTyranny @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @RomeoStevens76 @Plinz @SarahAMcManus @jerhadf As one alternative, that "stop and think" seems to be trying to get at (just awful in this context) I'd recommend Ed Ford's Responsible Thinking Process. Not sure how good this intro is but the basic premise is beautifully noncoercive & respectful. responsiblethinking.com/what-is-rtp/ho…
Soliciting other such pendulums! Reply below with ideas, & riff on each other's suggestions.
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I think this is why the "make 100 somethings" model works really well 100 feels intuitively like a really good number fo…
@maltybegray so true
@alt_tatsu many people would probably find the idea that I wore a highschool uniform for 4 years surprising (went to a boarding school, which I loved because it had way more challenge & extras than my hometown) honestly didn't mind it that much at the time; was just part of the backdrop
@quotidiania go to party if you think you'll feel like being there once you're there (sometimes context-switching is the hurdle, not the thing itself)
@visakanv I have this on a browser quicksearch: "twf" so to search follows I press ctrl+T (new tab) twf keyword hit enter 💥
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the ability to do a filter:follows search on twitter is one of its most profound features and I bet hardly anybody working on…
This is on the right-hand side of the twitter search view and can change your life.

One of my all-time favorite dharma writings neuroticgradientdescent.blogspot.com/2020/01/mistra… by my good friend @RomeoStevens76

@visakanv po po po niles nasha mecrio 😂
@Knipps @taalumot @OccultBoyscout drop it on a sugar cube
something important here in the background not sure how to put it into words but it relates to how schools & family haven't mixed and how something's weird about that "nobody here has a degree in school counselling... your qualifications are…?" "we're dads!" it takes a village twitter.com/CBSEveningNews…
@MasterTimBlais I am also interested in this
@visakanv we should also have a search filter for "liked by me" and "retweeted by me" (and maybe the same for following/followers, though that could be computationally a lot)
Great thread on ontological confusions with recycling
Haven't yet read this post he links partway down but—based on my enjoyment of his Welcome to the Future Nauseous—I expect I will! studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/remystifying…
This article also looks very cool, reframing the climate problem we face as solving terraforming on earth. Anthopocene but good tho. strelkamag.com/en/article/the…
Given that there's demand for this, I am glad it exists. The fact that it *needs* to exist is a sign of /r/boringdystopia

@visakanv chesheshe 😅 tis pop daf boolo 🤷♀️
@natural_hazard @Tjdriii ahh, yeah—that makes a lot of sense wanting someone to understand something can still be executed coercively but it does seem like the more central piece is just creating space for your *own* experience that measurable progress is possible you might like @Morphenius's stuff btw
@davidfactorial oof idk about "without fear" haha fear itself is one of the things that needs embracing! and sure this is the only lesson though it will present itself a million ways:
@davidfactorial reward is actually a backwards frame! this is one of the things that PCT makes obvious
@AskYatharth @VivaLaPanda_ @BirdOfPlay_ deserve is broken and I've mostly tried not to use it at all in some sense, nobody deserves anything within that frame, one can also say to @BirdOfPlay_ "you don't deserve be unloved" this double negative expresses something important that some people don't realize
@BirdOfPlay_ do you *want* unconditional love? separate from whatever "deserve" means
`rule 34 nigerian prince scam` ...no google results (no relevant ones, that is) I... don't know what to say.
@fortelabs I forget exactly but I loved your Throughput of Learning post so much. You were the central example of a person I wanted to connect with by getting back on twitter in 2017. I distinctly remember the moment.
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encouraging ppl is the shit
@nickcammarata I grew up so progressively Christian that it was kinda nebulous whether hell was just a metaphor. As one datapoint. Not central tho probably.
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Do you ever just have a reason for no reason?
@diviaprocessing "Spot The Delivery" puzzle book for kids
Subtle Q to answer as y/n. My true answer is something like "we should prioritize according to generator G, which allocates more money to space than currently but WAY more money to other specific earthly concerns than currently".
@QiaochuYuan I answered "no", but my real answer is "yes but also even more yes"
Society is vast, it will always need to focus on many things at once.
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@Malcolm_Ocean "what is a good thing for society to focus on?" mu! sprat maes!! tikita pae!!! focus on what makes your heart…
@HephaistosF oh true maybe it's just that
still haven't read this Remystifying Supply Chains article but I was at a large hardware store today and tripping out a bit boggling at where everything comes from and how it all somehow gets there so I think it's already working just from the title
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Ok, in just one week of using @CompliceGoals, I have managed to knock off one significant item on my larger todo list that…
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Having Perceptual Control Theory running in the back of my mind is a little trippy. I was just straining a tea decoction t…
still makes me really happy to see results like this the system I made works! not for everyone and all the time but beautiful stuff keeps happening
hey @noahmacca, cool to see you around on twitter! curious what your new Newco business is 😀
adding the keyword "supply chain" to this thread about various pieces of @vgr writing so I can find it later
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This thing by @komorama is excellent, gonna forward to some clients
@visakanv @vgr @komorama oooh this is cool I have some things I think will help with some of the elements, in the long-run (eg building an org entirely out of people who are world-class perspective-takers and interpersonal-friction-resolvers) but there are also lots of Qs I can't answer here
if you only ever study where things don't work, you never have a working prototype study on the edge where things stop working but on the working side not the not-working side
@HephaistosF yes, definitely, well put
maybe the real giants' shoulders are the friends we made along the way
Realized today reflecting on Geoffrey West's book Scale that in the last 70 years the terminal unit for ~wages has shifted from "the household" to "the individual" and this is probably good but kinda weird
@RichDecibels haha yeah I think it's good as a starting point since it allows for more fluid self-organization into the kind of thing that you're talking about
@RichDecibels but even there, "decreasing commitment" implies that the units you're talking about aren't stable enough to be a terminal unit terminal unit for electricity = wall socket, not house terminal unit for oxygen in a body = cell
also noted that "wages"/"fungible income" is a pretty damn new invention, so while the household→individual shift is a pretty big deal in a more general sense, it's hardly as simple as "this long-held tradition is ending" don't let 50s jetsons/flintsones propaganda fool you 😉
part of the current shift that's underway is plugging creators more directly into customers, so there isn't a big company allocating money to its employees, but a way more distributed/networked thing in the first place
question for roam/js hackers: how do I get the user's display name from roam/js? I assume there's a simple way to do this but brief inspecting & googling didn't find it @dvargas92495 @TfTHacker @adam_krivka #roam
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Over a decade ago, my friend @joyurge and I taught each other to program by building a card game for the then-nascent iPhone a…
@TfTHacker @dvargas92495 @adam_krivka perfect, thanks! I guess not simple, but indeed already-solved
@JimmyRis some of the financial reporting stuff still is household-based I think the main diffs are just: - lots of people not married - default of two-income households
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*wakes up* whu… something's happening… *rubs icons* …Whoa, how long have I been out? We must be on iOS 7 by n—iOS 15?!…
there is no "the community"
@fivesquareapp this is delightful 😂 makes me want to tweet as the Complice app from @CompliceGoals wondering what that would look like
@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin We didn't get to much of this specifically, although we talked about a lot of the neurological underpinnings. My first 2 podcast appearances are heavy on this though if you haven't heard them yet! 1: joelightfoot.org/thelightfootpo…
@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin and ofc this one with @tasshinfogleman: youtube.com/watch?v=lrYVkH…
@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @p_millerd @made_in_cosmos @MSlavin We talked about this! Talked about my whole chain of dominos in depth. (Also tons about PCT and how it relates to self-energizing motivation)
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FYI: @Malcolm_Ocean is the Beau Haan whisperer~ I'm grateful for you, and thank you for polishing out the rough sides of me—…
looking to get on the "do 100 things" train but unsure what you want to do 100 of? @thetracebrady can help you clarify that! it's Pay What You Want and even better, if you don't have money to contribute, lmk & I'll contribute on your behalf, in service of more people thriving ❤️🔥
@jonnym1ller oooh, nice
@jonnym1ller @FlowGenome yeah there's monitors like that but they seem aggregatey... do any of them have the simple feedback loop of just making you aware of every single pulse?
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Resurfacing this tweet because I think it's powerful. Interoception > methodology
@ben_mathes @visakanv @vgr @komorama @fluxfolks would definitely recommend Perceptual Control Theory to @fluxfolks! it connects systems thinking really directly to the brain and perception
@ben_mathes @visakanv @vgr @komorama @fluxfolks Making Sense of Behavior is my go-to intro there
I take this to mean that cohesion means not treating other parts as externalities/away/places to dump entropy/problems. Curious if others have other words for it!
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ʙʀᴏᴋᴇ: get psy-oped 𝓌𝑜𝓀𝑒: psy-op yourself twice 𝕓𝕖𝕤𝕡𝕠𝕜𝕖: undo the first psy-op in the first place
the idea of conditional love is based on the idea of keeping people deprived of love so that you can control them based on doling out love no other reason there can't be enough love to go around PCT makes clear why this is systematically confused & limited
what's optimal scene density for an open network?

@connerdelights @nickcammarata Nah, haven't written about it. Didn't really feel like I had much to say about it until seeing Nick's tweet and realizing it might offer a useful case study. I've gone through many phases since then, including atheistic and now more spiritualist again but not worshippy
@connerdelights @nickcammarata tbh I feel a sense of peership with Jesus, and a sense of building on his work
@connerdelights @nickcammarata
@sashintweets @GarrettPetersen @mesolude in those situations it's *true* that the optimal amount is not zero, but it usually goes without saying, hence the meaning being mostly relevant to situations where some people think it should actually be zero
@diviaprocessing I don't think I quite follow, but I'm curious
@orthonormalist @m_ashcroft yeah people have been staring at this thing for awhile! I get the sense people are more ripe for it now than a decade ago, given eg how PCT is profoundly relevant to the concept of non-coercion that's becoming increasingly popular in these parts
@diviaprocessing ahhhh of course yeah, might as well let the world know about deals you would love to make even if there might be no takers
@davidfactorial @DaystarEld yeah, long-audio-listening tools are fucking shit and it's a crime this is something anyone could disrupt too, at least for podcasts, since they're open-access
@acidshill nah there's a whole big messy fractal
@metaLulie @jonnym1ller @m_ashcroft it made the reasons why coercion works less well than noncoercion obvious rather than seeming like something more moral or aesthetic I wrote a bit about my early explorations in this post: malcolmocean.com/2017/06/toward…
@meekaale I actually just want the first bite of a sandwich, every time
one thing that's fun about complice.co is that it encourages you to write down not just what you're planning to do but also all the spontaneous things you did, tagging it with what big picture goals you made some progress on by doing those things
Retweeted @paulg
Kids will increasingly learn technology direct from other kids. This video by an Indonesian kid teaching other kids how to write…
@thefailyshow you can set privacy for all of your data on a per-goal basis, with options of: - only me - me & my partner - inner circle - outer circle - any logged-in user - anyone there isn't E2EE though so if you need that then you'll have to find another journalling system
Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman
The predominant, authoritarian-empiricist versions of this discourse focus on identity groups rather than perspectives a…
*la reine 😅
untangle the patriarchy
> you can't get people to do more than play status games by winning the status game I've been trying to convey this to some people recently and it's been remarkably difficult
one failure mode is an urge to try to have the last word to want to WIN at the old game, then tear it apart... but the old game is a win-lose game, so to win at it you need others to lose, which *strengthens* the fight
another failure mode is focusing on the what (the end) and not the how (the means) if you're trying to transform the means themselves, nothing can justify using any means other than the means you're aiming to create
defending yourself against defensiveness is very tempting (and sometimes necessary) and will always create more defensiveness
@natural_hazard a thread:
oh snap, a skill-tree for vibing
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this is my mission too, but for creative work and marketing and online business let's move to the right, y'all
@ungatedcreative if you feel like you have to, it sucks period
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i've been struggling to articulate my vision for how online business/marketing can feel all year, and @m_ashcroft just…
> Ungated is an oasis for creatives who want to earn an independent living online, without being spammy, manipulative marketers. — @ungatedcreative - ungated.media/about/ reminds me of this cross-pollination concept me & @m_ashcroft came up with:
Update: I now have a Complice goal called "The Thing"
@edsaperia I think "know what you're going to say" has 2 meanings, and I agree with you for one of them & not for the other. I think @Ultraspeaking practices both in parallel, but ultimately people who are intending to speak meaningful things will speak meaningfully, even if no pre-planning
@SarahAMcManus @meekaale you gotta make your sandwiches have more abundant contents, methinks
@holydiscogirl there's a bot that can do it if you @-mention it in the replies but I forget the name of it
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As an... – excel user I want to... – have fractions automatically converted to dates so that... – I can spend 01-Oct of…
@made_in_cosmos @meekaale @m_ashcroft
how to talk so users will listen and listen so users will talk
@speakerjohnash me too, *sigh*
@this_is_silvia can't tell if I want to be turned on looking at this 😅
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I’ve been trying to concisely gloss a particular rampant, self-reinforcing, and corrosive “philosophy,” for a while, a…
@m_altcroft ❤️🔥 would be cool to see this tweeted about on some level on main too, I think, to stoke the fires of other prospective feral free agents' excitement (although for many people it won't be as quick—you had a lot of kindling ready to burn)
@meekaale @captain_mrs I would love if you guys gave some suggestions for things to call Complice's goals other than "goals". I have some ideas in this thread but I didn't come to any conclusions.
@grantadever a bitcoin is a pretty arbitrary amount. they subdivide down to satoshis, which is 8 decimal places so that's like 230,000 per person which is probably enough resolution for bitcoin as a storage unit (wouldn't work for micropayments)
Retweeted @captain_mrs
Update: since refactoring my goals to be much more vague like this a month ago I've been finding it much easier to integra…
@tmaworks @itsLuciKeller Yeah, it's possible to use a credit card while only ever buying things you already have the money to pay off. (At one point I was managing to make the money to pay it off in the weeks between buying & the bill payment... still zero fees but kinda stressful & not recommended 😬)
@jonathandubin @tasshinfogleman twitter
@david_perell yeah I was so sad to discover that the Master and his Emissary audiobook isn't narrated by Iain McGilchrist. He has such a lovely voice 🥰
@david_perell @GretchenAMcC has an epic thread of her experience reading her book on internet linguistics, including discussion of how to deal with the pronounciation of "gif" or keysmash (adslkfhasdf etc) some unique challenges there that she was best equipped-for
@Austen I found that watching the ContraPoints video helped me notice a few situations in which I'd been envious (and cloaked it up as contempt) youtube.com/watch?v=aPhrTO…
@Austen I've recently been getting curious about sklavenmoral, aka “internalized envy of others”, at @RaymonddeOlive1's suggestion metamoderna.org/another-kind-o…
@grantadever nah it was helpful it actually helped underscore for me that there *isn't* enough to do small payments, which wasn't obvious to me before I did the math
@grantadever it's kinda fundamental; I didn't look into it too hard but it sounds like the bits required to represent lower precision is part of the core structure
Retweeted @MsMelChen
2020: I have friends who voted for The Other Guy and I treat them the same as the friends who voted for My Guy 2021: I have…
@orthonormalist @selentelechia @eigenrobot @LordChisholm got me into West Coast Swing this year and it's great has a very satisfyingly fluid & consistent physics rather than being a bunch of move sequences, it's on a lower control system level youtube.com/watch?v=kDnTRp…
@visakanv do you have a list anywhere of people solving problems via tweeting? this should be atop it
Retweeted @patio11
The most interesting thread you'll read on Twitter today, on debugging the supply chain bottleneck, which (per the thread) is…
@patio11 > how you can actually affect policy with sufficiently effective Twitter performance We should definitely keep a list of these! Actually, on second thought, no—*@Twitter* should keep a list of these 🏆
@typesfast Can you get my design rant here in front of someone who makes decisions for @Spotify or some similar app?
Retweeted @typesfast
I forgot step 1. Everybody in the chain must read the goal, the most important business book ever written.
whenever I see numbers like this I'm like "is this a lot?" billions is obviously a lot, but if we're emitting 1T it wouldn't make much difference looks like we're emitting ~35B tons of CO₂/year, or ~10B tons of carbon idk which the 1.7B for whales is, but it's 5-17%! 🐳🤯
short thread on kayfabe becoming more self-aware
Retweeted @rhymeswithvocal
have a self-adoring evening y’all ❣️

@parafactual @sneaknsneak uh oh
I'm working on a letter to twitter about how to make the app more conducive to the kind of friendly collective intelligence we've got percolating in these parts (both for us and for people who've yet to taste it) Read & comment on my draft/outline here: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
kinda pissed at @Spotify that I can't download the Joe Rogan episode with Jack Dorsey, as I'd love to run it through otter and pull out key bits of the transcript
Retweeted @visakanv
the most important innovation required for global FAN network is cultural, we already basically have all the tooks we need. l…
@weirdyang_ @visakanv it's not just about QTing, it's about QTing in a kind of interlinky way (eg in a thread of QTs) or when you have some new way you want to frame the tweet underneath if you're just QTing to be like "cool" then that doesn't really add anything, and sorta pulls out of context
@visakanv I feel like I was one of the first followers here who transformed the lone nut into the leader! (a la @sivers' sive.rs/ff) and waving to others to join in the dance:
@visakanv there once was a ship that put to sea... youtube.com/watch?v=zDTaeq…
@empathy2000 design
@nickcammarata it seems important but I'm sort of not sure what it would imply similarly, just knowing we're "in a simulation" doesn't tell us much insofar as all of the laws of physics hold up immaculately & we know nothing about who is simulating us or why or if they even know we're in here
@HephaistosF I used to have a section at the start which opened "you should switch to subscription revenue instead of ad revenue, which will make you more money and align your incentives more with what you say you care about" but @visakanv suggested leaving out that part so it's at the bottom
@captain_mrs @meekaale ooooooh that's a cool idea. and kinda wouldn't be any harder than just re-hardcoding it something else would make support hella confusing (it's already confusing when users call their intentions-for-today goals, which happens fairly often)
@meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial "center" feels good in that it feels consonant with a PCT lens
@meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial which also points at how "reference level" kind of refers to the thing, but it's hardly a natural word it's WEIRD we don't have clean natural words to refer to things like "reference levels" or "errors", given that they are in some sense the most fundamental phenomena we know
Just played askhole.io card game by @Aella_Girl & @rothosphere—pretty good! discovered I have way more nuanced views on bestiality than I thought 🤔🐬 curious to know which manufacturer y'all use for the cards—I know someone looking to make some
@meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial @m_ashcroft got ideas for a better name for Complice goals, maybe inspired by PCT (directly or nebulously)?
@m_ashcroft @meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial right, that would get a bit weird with Complice using "intention" for the day-sized thing, although it does seem right "aim"
@HephaistosF @visakanv that ain't gonna happen unless the competitor is actually better, which is pretty hard to achieve given that the main draw of twitter is that everyone's on here main possibility would be more the reverse, where you lure pros to an app they're willing to pay for that integrates
@HephaistosF @visakanv to be clear it's not "make everyone have to pay", it's "let people pay who want to [for some pro features]" rough idea is laid out here: packym.com/blog/if-i-rule…
rather than trying to force yourself to behave in particular ways, see if you can set up your environment so that the sorts of behaviors you'll tend to have will easefully result in stuff you love (won't work if you end up fighting the environment, to be clear) twitter.com/NatCouropmitre…
Full-length blog post on this concept, basically: malcolmocean.com/2016/06/you-fl…
@deepfates 60% crypto 30% fiat 10% stonks (the fiat is split between CAD (which is what I spend) and USD (which is what Complice bills in) and a lil EUR (which I got some from a contract a few years back and am holding to diversify a lil))
I saw an article somewhere a year or 3 ago (on rationalist tumblr?) about how vilifying men's desire ends up vilifying women's desire too trying to find it for a bisexual ladyfriend dealing with a structural thing that I think it might be helpful for lmk if you have leads!
@deepfates situation broadly similar to Rich's
@jonnym1ller catching my breath which happens in tiny moments and in large chunks:
coding day Thursday, see y'all Friday! 👋 gonna work on whatever I feel like out of 4 half-to-mostly-finished projects (all part of @CompliceGoals) - service workers (full offline) - custom end-of-day Qs - Now Page - metacognition module - (or something else?)
@AnneSelke oooooh I am interesting! *interested but I thought I'd leave the 3am typo because funny
@SnazzyQ My take is that somehow, despite Apple having many designers on staff, nobody designed this. Almost nothing is actually designed.
@AskYatharth the right to a feeling of abundance, also
Retweeted @visakanv
I'd rank myself as one of the most vocab-flexible people I know. I think @Malcolm_Ocean gets it too. the critical insight to…
@AskYatharth not exactly a right, but like, it is a reasonable thing to want to have and stopping yourself from having it is probably gonna fuck you up
@josephholsten Beautiful
Ongoingly-updated thread about why I think UBI is obviously the thing to do. (Without implying I or anyone knows how to implement it perfectly or that it would be easy.) Am interested in getting both supporting takes and "but what about?" takes, to refine my position here!
Thread · What are the intrinsic reference levels in Perceptual Control Theory?
One question very present in my mind as I dive back into Perceptual Control Theory: what are all the intrinsic reference levels? Classic: temperature, water, salt, hunger, sex Necessary: proteins, micronutrients, Speculative: meaning, belonging, dignity, beauty
(For people not familiar with "intrinsic reference levels", it's essentially referring to "fundamental preset variables the bodymind measures and will reorganize behavior as long as certain values aren't met") twitter.com/SimianSeminar/…
I'm particularly interested in intrinsic reference levels that humans or primates might have that other mammals wouldn't have. It does seem to me like there are likely at least a few of these, related to social organization and so on—the speculative ones above.
I even speculated in my notes recently that psychopathy might be due to a missing intrinsic reference level, which results in certain capacities (eg empathy) not being developed, instead of those capacities being missing directly. (Extremely speculative! I have no idea!)
Anyway, I'm interested in thoughts on intrinsic reference levels from my friends who've been getting into PCT recently (and less recently!) @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @AskYatharth @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist
I'd also be curious to know what the latest/best PCT literature is on intrinsic reference levels! @IAPCT @EvadeHullu @warrenmansell
I guess people have tried to make a list of innate drives or needs or something... that might be one place to start for examples. Although I expect many of them would sort of be on the wrong level of abstraction/hierarchy.
@mold_time @SimianSeminar I'd recommend starting with his later book Making Sense of Behavior if you can track down a copy! this tweet below inspired by this exchange above
Thread · Sketch of a political platform for an ideal Canadian party · 5 of 28 tweets
🧵 a sketch of a political platform for my ideal party, which doesn't remotely exist in Canada. (inspired by reading @HFreinacht's excellent 2nd book The Nordic Ideology, combined with a recent federal election in Canada in which I felt really dissatisfied with all the parties)
The main idea I had for this before was totally meta—a Dialogue Party, whose local candidates would host extended conversations among other local candidates and the public, to encourage perspective-taking and win-wins & clarify local priorities.
But I think I have a few strong object-level opinions as well, and that it would be also worth articulating my best guess for policy in other areas. In other words, what party platform would I love to vote for? (This is gonna assume Canada, but lots would generalize ofc 🇨🇦🌎)
My longest-held policy-level opinion is still pretty meta, which is the need for electoral reform. At BARE MINIMUM we should simply switch our riding-based voting to be ranked choice / STV instead of 1-vote first-past-the-post. This encourages independents & attuned newcomers.
My latest clarity is the need for UBI (Universal Basic Income) Trying to force companies to pay better doesn't work as well as giving citizens way better BATNAs, which would necessitate companies to get *creative* about making their jobs more attractive!
it's a fucking tragedy that @GitHub's forks aren't easier to search. Some projects with 3k forks and it's like, someone has probably made the tweak I want to make already and I have no way to find it. Needs search, tagging, & ranking of forks, as a minimum.
oooh this is a cool diagram by @rfinz with a 2×2 of Trust & Intensity and their shadow sides

ever been so tired you forget to take your contacts out? 🙄 me just now: so tired I tried to take them out when I wasn't wearing them today in the first place 😅 (my eye is a lil uncomfy but okay)
@ricvolpe oooooh that would be fun! I'd imagine it shows you a tweet, and you WIN BIG if you can just guess the author directly, or you can push a button and it'll give you 4 options to pick from
Retweeted @JamieCombs
Whatever it is —- 1. It’s mysterious 2. It’s multidimensional 3. You’re an influential part of it —- You gonna play with…
"Post a pic YOU took (no description) to bring some zen to the timeline"

@warrenmansell @iapct @EvadeHullu Ooooh, the connection to temperament seems like a good one to make. Or something on that front.
@AskYatharth @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist oooh I like this framing of status counter as being about safety-in-the-tribe rather than dominance per se part of what was so huge about MeToo is it upended the weightings on how much of some kinds of status allows someone to get away with violations along other dimensions
@danlucraft @github @gilesgoatboy oooh! yeah @ForkFreshness looks cool but doesn't solve my particular problem where the original project is alive & well but I just disagree with one of their design decisions

@AskYatharth @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist there are dimensions of status that are zero-sum but I don't think it's intrinsically hardcoded on that level people need dignity, regard, social safety, attention, love etc *IF* the social context constructs those as zero-sum, antagonistic strategies will naturally evolve
(in case it wasn't clear, this is what prompted Canada to design its own flag, which I think is one of the best in the world in terms of simplicity (you can draw it) but also originality as a flag and as a symbol more generally (it's not just a few colored bars))
vaguely musing about this for Canada and I'm really not sure what it would be 🇨🇦 we're not a particularly patriotic bunch though there were definitely some Room Where It Happens moments around the time of Canadian Confederation back in the day 🤔 ⚜️ Quebec probably has some 😅
growing up I remember feeling vaguely proud of Canada's role as peacekeepers but I don't recall being aware of any popular media on the topic
@AskYatharth in the context of relationships: youtube.com/watch?v=nTvJC3…
@AskYatharth some of Josh Groban's songs, particularly River there's a quality of surrender, "I don't got this but it's maybe okay anyway" youtube.com/watch?v=-DE19K…
Retweeted @AskYatharth
what songs inspire humility in you
Retweeted @michaelcurzi
Thoughts on @eigenrobot
@michaelcurzi @eigenrobot my philosophy on likes 👇 which also leads me to like a lot of tweets (though still not all)
@ReallyRadley @orthonormalist @selentelechia Making Sense of Behavior was explicitly written as a general public introduction! "I’m writing this book as I would write to a friend"

@meekaale @nosilverv was I upstream of you checking out PCT? I try to keep track of how my book-recommendation influence spreads 😎
@nat_sharpe_ oooh, gorgeous
@AskYatharth @selentelechia @m_ashcroft @busy_goose @QiaochuYuan @magicianbrain @mattgoldenberg @orthonormalist huh, I think this also explains some un-ease among ordinary men something like "if a man's millions can't keep him from losing his career from grooming his subordinates, maybe the positive regard from my friends won't keep me safe if I have a shitty hookup and she gets angry"
@magghu just very gently but yes
@visakanv @AskYatharth I think I was trying to see over the cliff as a kid but it wasn't until I was about 20 and got introduce to some ideas that are isomorphic to Game B (framed as "collaborative cultures instead of coercive") that I actually had the viewpoint to see beyond humanity's leading edge
@this_is_silvia ...I think not quite! it seems very close to something that might turn me on tho
@HephaistosF @Aella_Girl @rothosphere oooh nice @missrachelreads this might be a thing for your project!
@m_altcroft one version would simply be without the actual $ amounts like the original tweet but without the image and the first parenthetical
hmmm makes me wonder if Complice could do better at encouraging intention-setting to be state-oriented rather than behavior oriented
the framing of "outcomes" at the end of the day already kind of gets at that it's not just "what did you do" it's like "what progress was made?"
@m_ashcroft @meekaale @captain_mrs @davidfactorial
@speakerjohnash hm, feels like I'm missing some of the context! can you say what questions you think I would have that this video answers? ("how does the cognicist token work?" doesn't count because I didn't have that one until I watched the first minute of the video)
@RobertHaisfield makes me think of inc.one who has this ledger rdollar.one not sure if it's actually blockchain-based but they seem on the right track along some dimensions
@RobertHaisfield would tag @SpencrGreenberg since he's got a startup foundry thus might be likely to be aware of others or have looked into this
@RobertHaisfield appreciating the tag! from my vantage point we're slightly too early for DAOs to actually be the right way to organize it, but that'll shift in the next few years my 10-year vision involves something like a startup meta-foundry operating in a fairly DAOist manner
an excerpt of a vision document I have that describes one use I see for blockchain as a way to guarantee support even if relationships break down, directly-structurally rather than by invoking legal contracts that could be messy to enforce still lots of details to figure out

@RobertHaisfield in particular,
@AnneSelke wow, I love both of these
@AskYatharth yeah, except with people also learning how to create real wealth
@AskYatharth so they don't get fixated on the redistribution
the lesson: if you want something to go viral, have a ton of people QT it to express how surprised they are by how viral it's going free signal-boosts cf "you are not stuck in traffic, you are traffic" twitter.com/Very__Regular/…
@ActNormalOrElse props for collecting this excellent case study of people not understanding how they *are* the very phenomenon they are confused about
Beautiful quotes from the first few minutes of @jack's 2019 interview on @JoeRogan, talking about how @Twitter was *discovered* in the emergent behaviors of the people using it.

"and Visa just announced that Micah will be its first sponsored artist" definitely clicked on that announcement expecting it to be a @visakanv tweet 😂

underrated tweet of mine
makes more sense probably if you hung out on Weird Sun Twitter back in the day and saw people using "as" & noun phrases
@jonathandubin @packyM @Prigoose @__drewface @TylerAlterman @jasoncbenn add me to your list of "the scenius folks" pronto! and also @visakanv ofc
Retweeted @packyM
Throughout history, certain time-place combinations have been astonishingly more productive than the rest. We're living throu…
@packyM @jgreenhall talks about this tipping point in his Civium series. Summary of the overall idea, including a core network theory insight in this thread:
@etiennefd I guess I'm mostly thinking that Quebec has more of a sense of cultural memory (je me souviens) than the rest of Canada. More sense of "the story of how we got here is important". But yeah, I guess it has more bitter energy than proud.
@ricvolpe my short take is that it'll certainly help, for the reason @packyM says, but it doesn't happen at all without the win-win cultural stuff > until web3, it was impossible, or exceedingly difficult, to turn [anon] clout into cash or to run a company pseudonymously.
@ricvolpe @packyM the fun part is that these sorts of things are attractors, and the win-win attractor broadly outcompetes the win-lose attractor (on long enough timescales, unless destroyed in the meantime) so we'll get there one way or another
@AskYatharth yeah death & taxes
Retweeted @OliveFSmith
I always love it when people say 'baby steps!' to imply they're being tentative, when actually baby steps are a great unba…
baby steps... holy shit what a great point! post below other metaphors revitalized by being reconnected with the actual thing in question
@gptbrooke makes me think of the unkillable meta-vibe
@etiennefd omg that's... wow. "I remember... uhh I forget what I remember. But I remember!"
@_holyweather yeah I think that's not actually true but I think also that often alcohol is consumed for reasons other than enjoyment (of the taste or of the drug) sometimes it's the most interesting available thing to drink, for instance
@Austen Attractors gonna attract, and VR/AR etc is an attractor. but the idea of fb/zuck owning that word is offensive that would be like GM rebranding as Car like... no. fuck you for even thinking that's a reasonable thing to do.
@coordinape @BlackForestBoi coordinape ^ seems like something you'd want to be abreast of
huhhhhh it occurs to me that the terminal-unit-as-individual thing is related to the notion of UBI as something individuals would get
I read an article recently that was talking about how the institution of marriage had eroded and that part of that was related to welfare benefits for single moms? I forget what it was but it seems like something I should be factoring into UBI discussions
@AskYatharth this is what I was pointing at by linking to that death & taxes thread... maybe could have gone straight there but the death & taxes level was what stood out when you asked
@AskYatharth uhhh good question based on the additional tweet, probably something about how finite games are never really satisfying but it was a dream insight man, idk if I have ever fully understood it since I woke up from the dream
Thread · Design notes for a conversation-optimized Twitter replacement · 1 of 17 tweets
Thread that talks about how quote-tweets are like asexual reproduction and *multi*-quote-tweets would be like sexual reproduction (in the sense of mating two memes together)
@beardyman blorgostomop tinkapay pe twitter loh:
@visakanv still not great, but way quicker (~3-5 mins) if you use these keyboard shortcuts: first ctrl+f (or cmd+f on mac) and put "follows you" in the search thingy then: pagedown pagedown pagedown ctrl+f enter ×100 or so
@visakanv yeah did it just now, that's why you have to do it 100×
@visakanv ah yeah, I also spotted a few names there I recognized (someone on my team when I interned at twitter in 2013 for instance) & cool to see overall patterns lots of bitcoin folks & african entrepreneurs a patch of sports teams picturing him trying to get different vantage points🌐
@MasterTimBlais they write sins now instead
@bigbadbob234 @Austen it's at least a long enough name that people aren't trying to use it in other sentences tho if they'd rebranded as "the meta company" that would have been dumb but at least unambiguous
Thread · Design notes for a conversation-optimized Twitter replacement · 1 of 17 tweets
(oh wait actually no, single QTs are like horizontal gene transfer and multiQTs start getting sexy. or maybe that'd be multiReply, which is kind of a bonkers idea)
the figure-ground inversions in this are wack
@doriantaylor @vgr got a source Dorian? would love to explore this as I've been known to use that quote
@AnneSelke @jondubin Hakomi updates? 😀