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November 2021

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Replying to Matt Elder @fiddlemath ·

With censorship/moderation in general, I've come unstuck from the idea that a platform should have just one moderation policy. I suspect what's needed is domains of social authority, run and organized on top of the platform tech itself.

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Thread about censorship, free speech, and challenges of creating moderation that is symmetric wrt partisanship but assymetric wrt favoring generative discourse over destructive engagement. https://t.co/XsrmIaE9fM

@fiddlemath You might like @mayfer's Spiel app

murat 🍥 @mayfer ·

ok time to share the Spiel beta publicly beta.spiel.com this is an attempt to build a chat architecture that captures the organic nature of how we socialize, while also supporting all possible governance systems in these nested contexts (think fractal localism)

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ok hear me out Dune adaptation by Baz Luhrmann but it's two rival frat houses who both go to burning man and fight over drugs

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

You don’t understand acceptance. Acceptance doesn’t mean not doing anything about the problem. Because that would be stopp…

FWIW as far as I'm concerned Zuck's announcement last week is dead on arrival. I don't consider it legitimate any more than if he wanted to be called Your Majesty. That word is ours and they can't have it.

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Replying to Gareth I. Jones @GarethTSq ·

I’ve started to create a reading list for leading a responsible business/@BCorpUK - what am I missing? @DoBookCo @gringreen @Amanwy @MikeCorcoran__ @KenSkatesMS

@GarethTSq @BCorpUK @DoBookCo @gringreen @Amanwy @MikeCorcoran__ @KenSkatesMS @ystrickler @HilaryCottam @jasonhickel @charlesvogl @wucker @KateRaworth @abhijitthinks @JaneBryngwyn @DianaChapman @KaleyKlemp Work With Source by Tom Nixon workwithsource.com

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Retweeted @RomeoStevens76

"If you manage to control yourself there will be ice cream" said the parent. "I sure hope this doesn't have unforeseen…

Neat kinda-novel take on memetic evolution, sort of a Toxoplasma of Rage remix

Joscha Bach @Plinz ·

The brainworm is not the ideology of the outgroup. The brainworm is the shadow growing in the eddies between the groups it incites to fight fanatically, by driving them into opposite directions.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean yea we can just insist on continuing to call them Facebook, the way nobody says Alphabet. “MVRS? Oh you mean Facebook”

@visakanv Exactly. If I were a shadowy cabal controlling the media I would done some mix of completely not mentioning the event or covering it as kind of fiction or like one would an April fool's joke.

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Retweeted @visakanv

one of my own sorta hot takes is that nobody has the power that people think they have. politicians? nope. billionaires? nope…

One way to put this might be that status isn't power, even status that's about "power".

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

one of my own sorta hot takes is that nobody has the power that people think they have. politicians? nope. billionaires? nope. zucc? nope. the US military? nope. Xi Jinping? nope. everybody climbs to the top of a precarious pile and realizes oh god oh fuck, god help me

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

one of my own sorta hot takes is that nobody has the power that people think they have. politicians? nope. billionaires? nope. zucc? nope. the US military? nope. Xi Jinping? nope. everybody climbs to the top of a precarious pile and realizes oh god oh fuck, god help me

@visakanv While I disagree with the guy, I feel like the coin flip is a pretty damn weird ritual. Not sure what would be better... ...sharing photos of their kids? telling personal stories of times they were good parents & times they messed up? Some other level I'm not sure how to name

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@visakanv Oh fuck, the coin flip is a secular prayer. Of course. Well that makes sense actually. Lame af tho. We can do way better even while staying secular and even in some sense nonspiritual. But I suppose that's still better than nothing.

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@wildbuddhini I chose it and I meant "I'm a man and want to see results" sry 🤷‍♀️

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

as a musician with tics, i stim songs just now i had a funk song in my head while scrolling twitter my teeth were playing the drum part, breath was whispering the melody, eyes blinked in metronome time and four large muscles flexed to accentuate each quarter note beat in turn

@MasterTimBlais Oh shit I do this too. Got a bunch of different leg muscles involved. And yeah, teeth. Never heard it described as stimming songs but that's super apt. Oh man and I just caught myself whacking my tongue left and right against teeth while composing this tweet. 🤣

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Retweeted @MasterTimBlais

as a musician with tics, i stim songs just now i had a funk song in my head while scrolling twitter my teeth were pla…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

one of my own sorta hot takes is that nobody has the power that people think they have. politicians? nope. billionaires? nope. zucc? nope. the US military? nope. Xi Jinping? nope. everybody climbs to the top of a precarious pile and realizes oh god oh fuck, god help me

@visakanv Apparently the UN thinks Elon has power. A sign that they don't actually have power either? mobile.twitter.com/seyitaylor/sta…

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Retweeted @CJHandmer

On the second anniversary of my back to back blogs on Starship and Starlink, I have an update. Starship is still not underst…

Great thread about NFTs beyond jpegs, including not just visions & ideas but some places they're already game-changing. twitter.com/gregisenberg/s…

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What's #ship30for30?

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Replying to Travis Northcutt @tnorthcutt ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean Yep ship30for30.com

@tnorthcutt @visakanv is it joinable anytime? I suddenly woke up and it's november (!?) and I kinda want to write 50,000 words looks like they're enrolling for January maybe I'll just roll my own

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fucking amazing

Alec Stapp @AlecStapp ·

An artist: (1) bought an Andy Warhol drawing for $20,000 (2) made 999 high-quality forgeries of it (3) shuffled them together (4) sold each of the 1,000 drawings for $250 each "If you pay your $250 maybe you’ll get the original $20,000 Warhol, but you’ll never know."

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@visakanv @groundedSAGE @PlayNiceInst @Malcolm_Ocean @RobertHaisfield small is beautiful

@RichDecibels @visakanv @groundedSAGE @PlayNiceInst @RobertHaisfield yeah, let's keep it small to start. tho I think we can go ahead & record it unless there's a good reason not to, and then decide at the end if it feels good to post it or part of it somewhere

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Retweeted @visakanv

@Malcolm_Ocean UN has always been mostly a global groupchat at best

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean seems like the fountain is hundreds of years old, built on top of even older Roman aqueducts, which feels significant

@visakanv ahh yeah, that's legit - hadn't tracked that part

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I want an animation of someone walking through this space as it morphs & changes. That would be so fucking trippy. We're gonna see some really wild movies in the coming years.

All Technique No Passion @ATNPassion ·

Feline Tornado

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Replying to reddy2go @reddy2go ·

@callumflack @Malcolm_Ocean hehe 🙃 ok let's play with light in a vacuum - my new age lava lamp 🪔

@reddy2go @callumflack nah don't let them taint your metaphors go back to the roots flywheel is a fundamental concept it is to rotational mechanical systems what a capacitor is to electrical systems

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is it just me or does anyone else think it would be cool to have a 3D graph of milk products arranged by water content, protein, and fat? roughly, whey: water=0, protein=100%, fat=0 milk: {90%, 4%, 0-3.5%} cream: {60%, 4%, 30%} yogurt: {50%, 10%, 2%} butter: {1%, 1%, 98%}

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and CHEESE! cheese is the most balanced: cheese: {37%, 25%, 33%}

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Replying to The Faily Show @thefailyshow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean What about the carbs?

@thefailyshow eh yeah I guess. that feels less interesting since they're basically all pretty low carb unless you extracted lactose powder but who does that

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean hm we could totally do a superior global groupchat

@visakanv what if the UN were good tho?

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Retweeted @daemonhugger

Finally tried NEDERA. Sobbed the first time. Second time felt nothing. In both cases began saying "I want to cry." An…

Replying to Daemonic is Gendlinmaxxing 🤑 @daemonhugger ·

Finally tried NEDERA. Sobbed the first time. Second time felt nothing. In both cases began saying "I want to cry." And in both cases felt anger when no tears showed up. @Malcolm_Ocean's advice is gold: "Respect the resistance." Familiar wisdom that's easy to forget.

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: @_exoconnor @SarahAMcManus Goal here is not to get yourself to cry, but to explore your relationship with crying, and to explore why it might feel unsafe and whether that still feels true, particularly in your adult alone context. Might try completing sentence stems many times:

@daemonhugger Mmm! Yeah, sounds like tension between wanting to cry & wanting to not cry. Might even try just voicing that: "part of me wants to cry and at the same time part of me wants to not cry"

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Retweeted @QiaochuYuan

somehow i needed the opposite of "do 100 thing" "do 1% thing"

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean [whistles] x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: if you have a truly revolutionary idea you'd want to be careful to state it in a rather oblique way so that it doesn't get flooded or crushed before its time has come

@visakanv nice reminds me of "open boring conspiracy" a phrase I got from Jamie Wheal on this @jim_rutt show interview (as a lens on the thing also known as Game B) jimruttshow.com/jamie-wheal/

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So @QiaochuYuan had a great tweet/thread sometime a few months ago about how people—AHA. Found it.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

every statement a person makes about themselves, their lives, the nature of reality etc. has a shadow statement. in order to find it worthwhile to say a thing you must simultaneously be aware of the possibility of it being false, or else it wouldn't even occur to you to say

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@Malcolm_Ocean You could do it like the soil chart!

@SarahAMcManus ooooooh nice, right. don't actually need 3 dimensional cube because the system is constrained to add up to 100%

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Replying to Lucy Keer 🪣 @drossbucket ·

@SarahAMcManus @Malcolm_Ocean I like the citrus chart too en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_ta…

@drossbucket @SarahAMcManus Oooh nice

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Can we make a little AI system that automatically generates these turnarounds based on some input? Maybe GPT-3 could already do it if given a few examples.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

you can kinda tell when almost everything a person says is an attempt to fight against much larger shadow statements that are what they (or at least a part of them) actually believe. this is probably why byron katie's "turnaround" thing works thework.com/instruction-th…

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Replying to @michiforjoy

@michiforjoy @QiaochuYuan Yeah it definitely would be if you tried to force them at all. There might be a prerequisite skill or capacity needed to orient to this in a sufficiently gentle way where you're just trying them on & seeing what resonates.

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Retweeted @nicuveo

@evie_fp Reminds me of this. :P There's a phrasing in French, "déformation professionnelle", this idea that yeah your work voc…

I would like to encourage people to be precise in their meanings and say "I don't know" only when they mean "I genuinely don't know", rather than saying "I don't know if X" when they actually mean "I think not-X" this sort of thing seems critical to sane thinking afaict

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Replying to shb @himbodhisattva ·

@Malcolm_Ocean GPT-3 may need more than one example

@himbodhisattva oh sweet! can you try it with multiple examples?

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean That'd definitely go into the Evernote but I dunno what Is use it for

@mattgoldenberg yeah likewise I said it'd be "cool" but I don't think it'd be pragmatically useful 😂

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Replying to The Faily Show @thefailyshow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Milk has a fairly high carb content

@thefailyshow oh yeah like 6% I guess but still it never goes *higher*, is the thing whereas the other 3 dimensions all have one exemplar that's close to 100%

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Agreed. I think this is where this euphemistic language came from in the first place. But then people use it even in places where they don't need to. Tho I guess part of that is about having trouble differentiating perspectives. twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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it's not really about quantity of uncertainty but about the meaning of the speech act are you intending to convey the uncertainty or the not-X?

prerat @prerat ·

@Malcolm_Ocean at what level of uncertainty is it ok to say "i don't know"?

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the original instance that prompted me to notice this was a few years ago when a friend said "he did it anyway even though I told him I didn't know if it was a good idea!" and I was like "huh, you didn't say you thought it was a *bad* idea" and like, obvi not that simple, but,,,

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Mmm yeah, I'm in favor of gut-checks and slope-checks, and they need to be used in both directions. I think many people, if they ran more gut-checks, would find that in some close relationships they feel more safe than their default calibration.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Yeah I've been digesting the "look" move, and trying to figure out how to respond. It first reminded me of this 👇, but I noted the situation was different, and paused, and reflected that there was something I wanted to welcome about it, which you named.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Was just skimming an article and the first subsection opened with: "Look, ..." And I had this immediate response of "no, you don't talk to me like that."

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Replying to shb @himbodhisattva ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I've never done this exercise before, is there any nuance to it? dont want to give bad prompting examples

@himbodhisattva I think you just flip the noun positions and try out some negations could honestly do it with GOFAI or a simple verb conjugator, it would just be more work

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Thread · Wanting to not X versus not wanting X

Note the difference between: • "wanting to not cry" • "not wanting to cry" You can want to cry AND want to not cry. That's actually very common (about crying but more generally too).

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@daemonhugger Mmm! Yeah, sounds like tension between wanting to cry & wanting to not cry. Might even try just voicing that: "part of me wants to cry and at the same time part of me wants to not cry"

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In the case quoted above, since I broke it into "part of me", it would still be *true* to say "part of me doesn't want to cry" but that's a weaker statement. Most parts of you don't want most things, but they're not *blocking* those things. If it's blocking, it's a want-not.

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If you simply want to cry, you cry. If you feel the need to say "I want to cry" because you're not crying, it's because part of you is blocking the crying. Its reasons may be circumstantial or general, shallow or deep. But it is saying "not that".

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Absence is different from negation. People are kinda bad at using words tho. This is possibly for euphemistic reasons, eg "I don't know if that's a good idea" sounds softer than "I actively think that's a bad idea".

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I would like to encourage people to be precise in their meanings and say "I don't know" only when they mean "I genuinely don't know", rather than saying "I don't know if X" when they actually mean "I think not-X" this sort of thing seems critical to sane thinking afaict

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Whenever I think about this stuff I think of this tweet/thread by @QiaochuYuan. This is really an example of "Few understand this." I bet he and I don't even really grok the significance of it. Something really deep here.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

every statement a person makes about themselves, their lives, the nature of reality etc. has a shadow statement. in order to find it worthwhile to say a thing you must simultaneously be aware of the possibility of it being false, or else it wouldn't even occur to you to say

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Going back to parts & wholes... remember this classic joke? Three logicians walk into a bar. The barman says, "Does everyone here want a drink?" 🍻 The first logician says, 'I don't know.' The second logician says, 'I don't know.' What does the third logician say?

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"You want X" + "I want not-X"  implies   ↳ "We don't want X"   ↳ "We don't want not-X"   ↳ "We don't know what we want" Here absence of want (& knowledge) arises from conflict. ("we" here = [the system of the both of us], not [the set of individuals])

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@SarahAMcManus @utotranslucence So all of this brings us to Lojban. Which, of course, has thought a bit about this. This page describes how lojban essentially has some extra-fancy articles that let you distinguish masses & groups-of-individuals. lojban.github.io/cll/6/3/ (third image not relevant to this thread)

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In practice  You want X because it gets you Y  I want not-X because it gets me Z  ...and so what we want is Y+Z. This is what we're talking about when we talk about finding win-wins when starting from a place of conflict.

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This also applies fractally internally: if part of you wants something and part of you wants to not have that, it's not per se the case that you, speaking on behalf of the whole, can truly say "I want that". I talk about this differentiation here: malcolmocean.com/2021/08/intern…

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@smallkewlhuman @FateOfTwist_ have you seen these

[3 more photos]

@QiaochuYuan @smallkewlhuman @FateOfTwist_ ^ @SarahAMcManus have you seen these?

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Replying to 精神本心慈悲領域 ❤️‍🔥 (13/1000文) @smallkewlhuman ·

question: so IFS talks about relating to parts in a way that makes them your friends rather than enemies. integration. but have any of you ever engaged with a part energetically in such a way that it literally dissolved? like it’s just no longer a part of your inner environment?

@smallkewlhuman the process & the result of integration will look different for all parts might sometimes be more of a dissolution (including the integration of people into larger interpersonal wholes—this isn't just about inner stuff)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated as it wants to be integrated.

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@abhayance oh wow you changed your handle oh wow hi.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

wife and I are still making new breakthroughs in our communication style almost 20 years since we first met, which is bananas to me. kind of wish I took better notes along the way, but also it does feel like a private/secret thing not for sharing

@visakanv can I interview you guys and incorporate your insights into the detailed general principles I'm writing up?

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Replying to 𝖒𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖊𝖑𝖈𝖚𝖗𝖟𝖎 @michaelcurzi ·

@seconds_0 That frame is just how I’d start, ie narrowing the problem down to skill assessment, either direct or by proxy Implies: - have skilled practitioners assess them - this means there can be a bootstrapping problem (which is sthg we observe!) - tests, spot checks, trials all valid

@michaelcurzi @seconds_0 yeah I think we got bad proxies, in part by combining the training with the skill assessing which is fine in an apprenticeship context but bad in an outsourced context like a school

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Replying to 0.005 Seconds (3/694) @seconds_0 ·

Credentialism in hiring makes sense when it is a mostly accurate proxy for skill. We now agree it's not. Now what? What method beyond credentialism helps a company identify skilled people quickly and without having them actually do the job?

@seconds_0 Partial solution: people demonstrate cred by self-directed projects & portfolios, and small collaborations Partial because people lack self-direction skills, and because businesses don't know how to delegate to self-directed ppl😅 UBI would kick that game into hyperdrive though

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Retweeted @seconds_0

Credentialism in hiring makes sense when it is a mostly accurate proxy for skill. We now agree it's not. Now what? What met…

Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

what should I do if I'm trying to come up with things I want (during the day + in life) but very little comes up I swear I'm not depressed, I'm just having trouble finding things that I genuinely want (vs. that I happen to like when they occur, which is fairly common)

@ElodesNL work backwards from the things you find meaningful to do to what sorts of larger wholes you seem to be participating in co-creating then tune into those wholes and see what surface area emerges for doing more stuff

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

what should I do if I'm trying to come up with things I want (during the day + in life) but very little comes up I swear I'm not depressed, I'm just having trouble finding things that I genuinely want (vs. that I happen to like when they occur, which is fairly common)

@ElodesNL seems possible to me that you may have a block against being in touch with what you want in this proactive way, for some reason could try imagining spending a week knowing what you want and seeing if anything feels aversive or problematic about that

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Replying to @mmasnick

@mmasnick Nah, that's pretty typical—a good heuristic is 70% or so (I think I got that from @tferriss). Stretch goals great. I rarely see this except on my days off when I start with literally one intention I check off immediately which just says "catch my breath"!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've kept up a weekly "day off" most weeks since April, and it's been such an amazing habit. It continues being pretty much what I wrote below: - no preplanned anything - no browser tabs to start the day Thread of reflections so far: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Michael Smith @Morphenius ·

@brother_nin @Malcolm_Ocean @SarahAMcManus True.

@Morphenius @brother_nin @SarahAMcManus Yeah there'd be some that are a bit under that triangle, but otherwise yeah.

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @seconds_0 Also many self-directed people in fact don't know how to be delegated to.

@mattgoldenberg @seconds_0 Also very true! It me, in fact, somewhat. I think learning PCT should broadly help with this, by getting really clear on control hierarchies as distinct from command hierarchies. And the ability to resolve conflicts with a particular version of a vision.

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Replying to Michael Smith @Morphenius ·

Fun bit of logic, h/t Critch: "You can't know this sentence is true." If true, you can't know it. If false, you can't know it's true. So it's true. Meaning you can't know. But I can. And you can know I know. But you still can't know. 😱🤯

@Morphenius

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@HephaistosF @DanielTabakman

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Retweeted @made_in_cosmos

There are so many tweets I never wrote because I thought @visakanv already said it better. Only now I’m beginning to r…

mood

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@made_in_cosmos I like it when people steal my job! frees me up to look for more fun and interesting jobs

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@mattx1b and with a lot of attention to avoiding blame-based explanations

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

Are you quiet because you're an introvert, or did you stop trying to speak after realizing no one around you seemed to be listening?

@gptbrooke @LordChisholm comes to mind when I think of the latter dude can definitely talk when people are listening but doesn't waste words when they're not

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Replying to steven 🔜 cascade camp Aug 7-10 @_StevenFan ·

Wait how caffeined are all of you

@_StevenFan most days, not at all once a week or so, very

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Most people: 1. drink coffee every day 2. never drink coffee 3. coffee only when sleepy/bored Galaxy brain: 4. Use caffeine on days you would already be very focused & engaged, to reach new levels of creativity & focus! Increase frequency of breakthroughs 🤯🚀 Thread 🧵👇

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found this saved in my notes with the caption "tweet that could be bio-esque"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm working on a bootloader for the emerging new cultural operating system.

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Replying to @gas_bitch

@gas_bitch oh lol yeah I thought carrying a torch was something more like "holding a sense of responsibility that someone is unable to hold themselves"

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Replying to Juvoni Beckford @juvoni ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Try to get to 400 pull ups before 4k.

@juvoni Huh looks like I never replied but I did take on & achieve this challenge! Thanks :) (I didn't announce my "challenge accepted" because I didn't want people to try to hasten that process, both bc I don't want to hurt myself & bc I don't want extra random follower growth)

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Retweeted @uncatherio

ok so, theory: "new relationship energy" is like getting a loan so you can set up your business it's an injection of up-fr…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

sharing for newer friends who aren’t sure what the audience is, there are many overlapping audiences

quoting @visakanv: I have decided to celebrate by posting cringe. feel free to tag yourself https://t.co/mdIye03NzQ

@visakanv 🎶 tomorrow there'll be more of us 🍻

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

aggressively seeking out outgroup members to agree with

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Retweeted @visakanv

one of my beliefs that I haven’t articulated clearly yet: I think the irresistability of a great ask is almost independent…

Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa I can see it... seems like they legit can't though! or don't know to look. and you could probably write a thread that would effectively point people at it one or two levels of abstraction up most people wouldn't read it ofc, but idk maybe it would be worth doing anyway

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@alt_visa that such a thread would be interesting to me, honestly a counterpoint to the "apparently-powerful people don't actually have much power, fuck" point

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa if this question feels usefully thought-provoking, I think it could bear some fruit even if the things you come up with aren't worth doing for whatever reason

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Then I try to take on a playful improvisational stance that asks “how can I become an invalid target for whatever they’re projecting on me?” I might fail, but the important thing is I'm actually trying to give them new data to grok as opposed to demanding they reinterpret.

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

back from a weekend w friends in the woods! and btw y'all should see how cool i am in person - how i look at you when you talk to me, how i smile when you enter the room, how i dance with you as if we're having a conversation and how i talk to you as if we're dancing

@this_is_silvia > how i dance with you as if we're having a conversation and how i talk to you as if we're dancing sign me the fuck up ❤️‍🔥

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wow, lovely @LordChisholm—"so it has come to this"

Gas Station Barbie @GasBarbie ·

I read this poem last week and I haven’t stopped thinking about it since Goooood stuff, Cohen

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@tasshinfogleman nailed it

@QiaochuYuan @tasshinfogleman 😚👌

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

i did end up walking in the forest, and it did make me a little bit less confused 😌

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@this_is_silvia "Why do I even want to do things in the first place?" Perceptual Control Theory has some answers to questions like that! You'll probably dig the illustrations in this thread/slides: twitter.com/EvadeHullu/sta…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@pragueyerrr There’s a Singlish yall that the world can switch to if the Americans wanna be snooty about it

@visakanv @pragueyerrr wait does the Singlish one already have no apostrophe or did you also just switch after the recent memo? (I did) twitter.com/taalumot/statu…

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Replying to Adele Dewey-Lopez @AdeleDeweyLopez ·

kinda wonder if you could make a viable software company that offered a relatively lower salary (say ~90k) and benefits, but only expected 4 hours of work per day

@AdeleDeweyLopez definitely possible would require enough slack (self-funded or very chill VCs) to not have a bunch of pressure to work people harder we're exploring something even further in that direction with @CompliceGoals (see complice.co/about-the-team)

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Replying to Imp @imperialauditor ·

it's weird that it's so hard to convert money into time most jobs cluster around a few points on the time-money tradeoff it should be a continuous spectrum!

quoting @imperialauditor: mgmt consulting guy: "a normal day is when you go home at 8, a bad one at 10, and a really wonderful one when you go home at 5"

@imperialauditor we're exploring running @CompliceGoals in a totally self-energizing way, where people mostly only work when they feel like it won't work for most companies may not scale big but so far we're having delightful success going from 1 person to 2 (+@joyurge) complice.co/about-the-team

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this is such a sweet articulation 🥰 🏞️🌲🦮🚶‍♀️🌳

pixendrit @pixendrit ·

@csaba_kissi @CompliceGoals takes all your list for a little walk in the park

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bounty bounty insufficiently meta try bounty bounty bounty

EA Lifestyles @EAheadlines ·

EA man proposes $1000 bounty for suggesting a good bounty forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/YDyz6MyL…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

(or is it classes being cancelled, and finally finding someone i can snuggle with all night while getting sleep, and music that reconnects me to whom i care to be, and a year of work of understanding how my mind works and why this was so unappealing before)

@AskYatharth > music that reconnects me to whom i care to be hook me up man!

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@ssica3003 I guess it helps when the person sees themselves and speaks to it 😅

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Replying to @mari_lasilva

@marialavis @AskYatharth @AL0YSI0US @johnlechner @JKSteinberger @BenFranta @davidwengrow @RichDecibels @RutElliotB @a_vansi gotta go with collide, on a few levels

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Retweeted @made_in_cosmos

Just met husband’s mom. In the last few months she lost 30lbs, practiced yoga daily without a single miss, quit carbs,…

Replying to nihilism disrespecter @meaning_enjoyer ·

@gptbrooke Also, people can only read so many tweets in a day. Every non-zero sum tweet you post is one less zero sum tweet that others will read.

@pervexists69 @gptbrooke

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@brother_nin @gptbrooke I have a long draft of a twitter thread called [[not all positive-sum outcomes are win-wins \ omniwin]] which untangles these concepts a bunch intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

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fuccckkk youtube.com/watch?v=yjfrJz…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@NormanChella @Malcolm_Ocean @pragueyerrr Singlish is simple one la where got time for apostrophe all. so complicated

@visakanv @NormanChella @pragueyerrr amazing even better

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Replying to @taalumot

@taalumot @deepfates there's a singlish yall that has no apostrophe, also

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@NormanChella @Malcolm_Ocean @pragueyerrr Singlish is simple one la where got time for apostrophe all. so complicated

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Replying to James @jambarree ·

@SarahAMcManus Admit that buttons are just as good as dials ;)

@jambarree @SarahAMcManus

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Retweeted @ashleydzhang

I promise you that you do not need to be mad all the time and Twitter is a much more pleasant experience if you assume go…

hmmm I don't have a commute—extremely by design—but this might pair well with the morning walk habit I've been booting up

Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

Just met husband’s mom. In the last few months she lost 30lbs, practiced yoga daily without a single miss, quit carbs, started learning English, and is now on her way to quitting smoking. Her secret? Every day on commute she imagines her ideal future in vivid detail.

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literally the only two fully-meta skills are 1. knowing what you want 2. untangling situations where what you want conflicts with what you want if you have those, you just do the thing, or you figure out how to do it, etc

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Note the difference between: • "wanting to not cry" • "not wanting to cry" You can want to cry AND want to not cry. That's actually very common (about crying but more generally too). twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @mattx1b Entropy dumping is how things work with linear causality, but the whole nature of blame is that it is trying to find a sink for karma, and karma follows mutual causality, not linear. Scapegoating "works" locally but it makes more tangle in the overall system.

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is why I adopted a dog 😃

@made_in_cosmos yo legit this makes a lot of sense like on net I'm still pretty sure I don't want a dog, but when I was like "would be great to walk every morning" I realized how utterly downhill a dog would make that

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Replying to Vynn @SurenVynn ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Oh wow I have an accidental thread that addresses exactly this issue

@SurenVynn hmu!

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF ahh something about being able to actually map-territory

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF ah yeah! and this maps onto PCT, which is where I derived my "literally the only two" from. the 3 meta skills are 1. perceiving what is so 2. knowing what you want 3. untangling situations where what you want conflicts with what you want

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@HephaistosF "perceiving what is so" is more powerful in a PCT frame though than it usually implies like, "perceiving what is so in terms of action gradients"

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF few grok grok

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Retweeted @HephaistosF

@Malcolm_Ocean Well, DUH. Like... "Of course it is, it couldnt possibly be anything else, and if you think this is profoun…

Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF imx it usually doesn't feel like sacrifice when I'm doing it well. feels more obvious. and I broadly expect most people would be misled by that framing but it seems plausible to me that he's indeed pointing at the good thing

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF none of those glosses make sense to me 😅 but I'm also disinclined to trying to give them a one-word gloss since any simple gloss won't rule out the other attractors lesswrong.com/posts/57sq9qA3…

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Replying to Kei @keikreutler ·

what do you think are the most important books on history or philosophy of history to understand our present moment?

@keikreutler The Master and his Emissary by Iain McGilchrist for precisely how & why everything is getting worse The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch for precisely how & why everything is getting better

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Have you ever successfully put on a pair of pants without using hands or gravity? 👖 (ie by contorting & wiggling) (if you're gonna try right now, I recommend getting your stretchiest pants)

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

awake-right-now twitter group sound off! what's goin on?

@MasterTimBlais finished a bunch of edits on my latest blog post (after it already went 2 days ago, because I live dangerously by scheduling my posts when they're still in draft form) malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…

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@piva_jonas oh totally, there are lots of other ways, but I was specifically trying to point at a skill that is not those, it's just hard to point at precisely ie, I used "ie" not "eg" intentionally

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Retweeted @mattx1b

Twitter is a distributed computer of powerful neural networks, each trained with some unique knowledge. The programming langu…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

@MasterTimBlais Tryna get work done on 3 side projects before I start work. Wondering if/how I could recruit allies for the side projects to reduce pressure on myself. The yoooooozh

@the_wilderless @MasterTimBlais ooooh I've been thinking about this allies thing a bunch see if you can find people who would love to do the things you don't want to do!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

A tiny meditation invitation, if you'll pause here for a moment. Hi. Think of a dream you have. ☁️ A vision or project, that you care about but it's not happening. 😕 Got it? Okay. What parts of it do you not want to do? 😣 Now imagine someone else would LOVE to do that. 😍 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to @groundedsage

@groundedSAGE Oh? 😮 (Stuff moves fast!❤️‍🔥)

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Retweeted @visakanv

in my experience, an important step to reduce one’s fear of looking stupid is to decide resolutely to never mock anybody else…

Replying to Samo Burja @SamoBurja ·

They would never take an equivalent and better paid stint at an Amazon warehouse or driving Uber. That they're willing to larp such 'rational' creature by radically underpricing their labor of course ironically disproves microeconomics as an accurate description of humans.

@SamoBurja I think it's a mix. People probably wouldn't do these things for free because they wouldn't feel sufficiently appreciated. But they do want to do favors for their friends, and the money helps them figure out which favors really matter.

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Thread · Why McGilchrist's hemisphere model beats System 1/System 2 talk · 1 of 7 tweets

oh and here's an actual introduction thread to the model:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Intro thread to Iain McGilchrist's work, based on his mini-book Ways of Attending: How our divided brain constructs the world. "Attention is not just receptive, but actively creative of the world we inhabit. How we attend makes all the difference to the world we experience."

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so fucking curious who the one person was (so far) who actually tried and whether any of the "not a chance" folks would have also succeeded if they'd tried

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if you want something and are afraid of it that's a sign that your preferences won't be well-ordered around it (compared to if you want A but cleanly want B more) this doesn't imply anything in particular, but it is wise to investigate

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this is Anyway Awareness Month

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Replying to Eric 🔎 @LordChisholm ·

sometimes, people

@LordChisholm many such cases

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guy fucks day

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Replying to prerat @prerat ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i need an option for "havent tried it yet but unfoundedly confident nevertheless" to balance out "not a chance"

@prerationalist I would probably have added that if there were more options! You've got 1 more day to do it and answer the poll 😜

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Retweeted @visakanv

I only learned about Erasmus a few months ago, and turns out he was basically doing what I’m trying to do now. For me he repr…

Retweeted @visakanv

everything is relationships, everything is ecosystems. thinking of individual humans as the “fundamental atom” is just one wa…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

everything is relationships, everything is ecosystems. thinking of individual humans as the “fundamental atom” is just one way of observing & modelling reality. there are other frames. I think of Twitter as a place where thoughts play with each other, directly his influence

@visakanv is there an essay-length piece you'd recommend on this? I feel like I already get it but I'd love to see a new angle and have something to share with others

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

I really dislike the implicit, and oftentimes explicit, narrative that sometimes permeates climate change discourse of "hum…

Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

How would you feel if you suddenly found yourself with the life you dreamed about as a young child?

@gptbrooke that would be awesome because I wanted to invent a teleporter

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

@Malcolm_Ocean What does it mean for preferences not to be well-ordered around something?

@ElodesNL like if you go to a restaurant hoping they have grilled cheese, but knowing that if they don't you're happy to get the fruit bowl, that's well-ordered if you go to a restaurant torn desiring the grilled cheese but afraid of upsetting your vegan friend, that's not well-ordered

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean get Lives Of A Cell: Notes of a Biology Watcher, its a collection of essays, short and a pleasure/joy to read. you can find a pdf if you google

@visakanv oooh I think I read a clip from that you shared

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Retweeted @jonnym1ller

🎙️Had a wonderfully meandering, nourishing and nerdy conversation with @Malcolm_Ocean recently—now published to the Curiou…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@NormanChella @Malcolm_Ocean @pragueyerrr confirm plus chop

@visakanv @NormanChella @pragueyerrr plus chop?

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@davidfactorial @loopholekid

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🧵🧵Meta-thread For over a year I've been thinking & modelling about "what would twitter be like if it were actually optimized for conversation?" Mostly I've been tagging my thoughts #TwitterReplacement but haven't been collecting them anywhere. (A lot is still in workflowy too)

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

Every so often I think back to the ridiculous grading system I had at school. A - E meant performance 1 - 5 meant effort…

Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Every so often I think back to the ridiculous grading system I had at school. A - E meant performance 1 - 5 meant effort Of course getting an A1 was considered better than an A5. "He's doing well, but he's not TRYING!" Well, good! What good would looking like I'm trying do?

@m_ashcroft whole-assed half-assing is the way to go mindingourway.com/half-assing-it…

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Retweeted @the_wilderless

I’m seeking allies for 2 main intentions: 1- development/motivation. It’s empowering to talk about ideas/projects with…

Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @_exoconnor @SarahAMcManus Never not discovering more things to both/and 😅

@jonathandubin @_exoconnor @SarahAMcManus sounds like a great thing to do some internal trust-dancing on malcolmocean.com/2021/08/intern…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

What is letting go? How am I able to let go?? How is my reflective, conscious awareness able to go in and modify these seeming PCT-like intention hierarchies to make my body let go??

@AskYatharth something about asking "do I need to be holding this reference level? can I get this some other way? can I accept not getting it? does anything actually go wrong if I drop this?" (some hemisphere stuff here too ofc)

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

I hate the framing of “wasted capacity” though. It’s such an entitled, unrealistic frame. *Coordination doesn’t come for free.* Coordination problems are real to solve. Multiprocessing devs know this. x.com/AskYatharth/st…

@AskYatharth coordination doesn't come for free but sustained conflict is inherently wasteful if you set your AC to 20°C and furnace to 24°C against each other at the same time, they run at full tilt & waste tons of energy compared to setting both to about 22°C (which also is more stable)

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

I’m seeking allies for 2 main intentions: 1- development/motivation. It’s empowering to talk about ideas/projects with someone who gets it, and who can help shape ideas & strategies through dialogue.

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: @the_wilderless @MasterTimBlais ooooh I've been thinking about this allies thing a bunch see if you can find people who would love to do the things you don't want to do! https://t.co/zugLDcEizL

@the_wilderless I'm sometimes down for this, hmu!

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

2- Reaching out/contact. My natural inclinations aren’t toward reaching out, being diplomatic, finding an audience, etc. -I’d love someone to help call me out when I’m rude or alienating, or how I could be building a bridge instead of dismissing someone.

@the_wilderless haven't noticed you being rude or alienating, will slightly increase my keeping an eye on it :) I've been doing a bit of this role for @LordChisholm with his reverse podcast—I find the guests, he talks to them

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Replying to @VictoriaPile

@MidlifeCreator @RoamResearch I've gotten this a bunch recently too, so not just you. Mostly only happens on one of my graphs though I think. In order to be sure I open it in another tab, which shows the supposedly unsync'd data (maybe stored locally?) then prompts it to sync

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

I'm not sure how sold I am on the 'let's find small groups and go start new villages' concept. This seems like both a mor…

Thread · Virtual barn-raising #2: a math card game for kids with dyslexia

Announcing virtual barn-raising #2, coming up next weekend! @missrachelreads has created a math-learning card game for kids with dyslexia, that she wants to get printed & marketed. Saturday 7pm-midnight Eastern Time = Sunday 8am-1pm Singapore Time (we did the DST/TZ math!)

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She's looking for help with manufacturing, marketing, distribution & scaling (+card art!) Even if you don't have specific expertise with any of these, general problem-solving energy & google-fu can go a long way! Sign up here: forms.gle/VxatmKJmh5qBQs…

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If you want to learn more about what sort of help Rachel is looking for, read the following tweets, which she wrote (lightly edited by me to fit 280 chars) We'll have more detailed context & guidance for all of these at the event!

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"So for manufacturing, apart from thegamecrafter.com, it would be good to have a short list of at least 5 other manufacturers who would either be able to also print on demand, or be able to small in small quantities (100 pieces), to be able to compare prices."

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"For marketing, it would be good to figure out an effective and compelling marketing campaign, whether through tweets, Insta posts/stories, blog posts, all hosted on my company’s website, first targeting parents of kids with dyslexia, and then later to the broader population."

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"In addition, it would be good to have helpers who are connected with figures in the education space, on Twitter or elsewhere, to either gift them a copy of the game, if feasible, or retweet promotional tweets when produced."

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"A video producer would be also helpful to help figure out a promotional video. I’m not sure how to do this remotely, but am thinking of perhaps storyboarding digitally for starters." We probably wouldn't finish the video day-of, but could get started with ideating etc.

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"Scaling isn't a current bottleneck, but could be worth strategizing about in advance. If this works, I’ll need the help of someone more experienced than I am to figure out how to manufacture in bulk with a trusted factory which might be more cost efficient than GameCrafter."

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"Also, adjacent projects for the barn-raising would be to have artists design and draw a series of pictures for other memory games that involve language learning. I’ll be including a description of each card to be drawn on Notion."

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Every barn-raising there's also lots to be done on the barn-raising meta-project itself! I bought a domain (barnraising.party) during the last one but there's nothing on it yet. So design/dev work to do there. Plus lots of documenting best practices, etc.

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I'm still trying to figure out what the digital equivalent is of the person who goes around with a pitcher of lemonade. 🤔 ...it's a vital role!

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We're also looking for projects for barn-raisings #3, #4, etc! So if you need a nudge to get off the ground, reply here 👋 Rachel says: > already so much has been done in the past 2 weeks compared to the past 2 years just by talking with you

Robin Goins 𝕚𝕤 𝕠𝕟𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕖 🟢 @coponder ·

Many of us just need a gentle handhold and someone saying "it's an interesting/good idea, tell me, how will you do it?"

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Just had a long call with @RomeoStevens76 discussing my latest post [[thinking that rejects other thinking]] and going on dozens of tangents around the dharma, information theory, marriage, companies, social media network theory, &+ Recorded, will post! malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…

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Retweeted @RomeoStevens76

new word just dropped: sodapi = streams of dependent arising processes interacting (it's an acronym) #neologisms

Michael Taft @OortCloudAtlas ·

Leigh Brasington just wrote a book about the Dependent Origination and Emptiness in the Pali Canon and Nagarjuna. It's completely FREE and you can download the ebook here: sodapi.leighb.com

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Replying to Vynn @SurenVynn ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Sounds like Karen Barad's concept of "intra-action" which I sometimes like to call quantum-physics pratityasamutpada

@SurenVynn mmm nice, yeah I really love Joanna Macy's book Mutual Causality in Buddhism and General Systems Theory

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@wholezero @TheInsiderPaper wow I literally thought this was a parody of the facebook thing I guess people kinda saw it coming

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In which @RomeoStevens76 & I discuss my latest blog post from 10+ angles, including PCT, dharma, information theory, families, cardovascular health of a village, companies, social media network theory At our edge; probably at times incomprehensible. youtu.be/v3-4RxWlx2A

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean how to know there is a better way? how to safely iterate there? what if system fatally collapses because u turned off the furnace and couldn’t bring it back in time this is the dilemma (of schemas), it is not easy

@AskYatharth "it's wasteful" doesn't mean you know a better way or how to get there or that you should just immediately turn off the furnace it just means it's wasteful

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I tweeted this a few years ago. It's funny but totally serious too. Most people are getting <10% net output from their brains most of the time, and this is why 🧠 But fMRIs can't tell, because the whole thing still lights up like a christmas tree 🎄

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The 10 percent of the brain myth is actually onto something! ...but it's not that 90% isn't not in use—it's that... most people have 45% fighting another 45%, so on net there's 10% useful capacity.

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in PCT terms 🤠 a live player as someone who is actively controlling the variables of interest to them 😣 a dead player as someone who is primarily controlling for *not* getting: - fired, - punished, - bad grades, - made fun of, - ostracized, - etc etc

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I think this is still missing something, but it seems to be a useful rough sketch. It seems, at least, to basically explain the Moral Mazes phenomenon where incentives inside bureaucracies make them unable do anything sane or useful despite being full of smart people.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean so yes, the A/C and furnace running against each other is wasteful; *and* the point I want to make is that it takes *incredible competence* to guide the system to a design where it doesn’t seem dumb and doesn’t do that

@AskYatharth yeah, in part because the systems are set up to incentivize people to focus their energy on maintaining the system (and themselves in it) rather than any actual variables

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

in PCT terms 🤠 a live player as someone who is actively controlling the variables of interest to them 😣 a dead player as someone who is primarily controlling for *not* getting: - fired, - punished, - bad grades, - made fun of, - ostracized, - etc etc

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Replying to Daniel Tabakman @DanielTabakman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Getting closer...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@DanielTabakman if I may ask, how can you tell this is closer? I wouldn't be surprised to come across a tweet by me from a year or two ago that looked exactly like this (although some of the phrasings would be somewhat less likely)

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@ElodesNL on a way bigger scale, a closeted gay man in a conservative community getting married to a woman probably doesn't have well-ordered preferences

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Retweeted @visakanv

ok I ask this as a layperson with love and curiosity and eagerness to learn, pls no snark if crypto-web3-nft-daos-defi etc i…

Replying to @selentelechia

@selentelechia want to have a call and jam about this? might be easier to tease out (either just for us or we could record it and post it. or get a scribe)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Realized today reflecting on Geoffrey West's book Scale that in the last 70 years the terminal unit for ~wages has shifted from "the household" to "the individual" and this is probably good but kinda weird

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Replying to Knıpps @Knipps ·

@visakanv happy to send you the original 1920 x 1080 🤙

@Knipps @visakanv hmu

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wondering if my experience of this is what it's like for spanish-speakers to hear portugese twitter.com/Lenniesaurus/s…

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Retweeted @visakanv

I completely agree with the spirit of this – tho as a non-designer-of-tech my frame is like, even as appliances we can use th…

will UBI decrease bullshit jobs?

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Replying to Paul Millerd @p_millerd ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Never underestimate human restlessness and work beliefs

@p_millerd true but ppl want to contribute

David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@Malcolm_Ocean UBI will increase the salary you have to pay people for bullshit jobs (because bullshit jobs are emotionally unrewarding), so probably will make more of them not worth the cost-benefit analysis of having them.

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people who talk about incentives often fail to recognize that it's possible to weight various factors wildly differently & you can change the weights the financial incentive to work at [BigCorp] the social incentive to "not sell out" the adventure incentive to start a company

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note also the competing frames: the financial incentive for people to pay more attention to financial incentives the social incentive for people to pay more attention to social incentives ...etc

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this is part of the importance of focusing your time & energy on what you want to see more of you are incentivizing better incentives

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

"Lauren Ipsum wins award" 5 RTs, 13 likes - "SAY HER NAME, $NEWSORG" ___________________ | | |"Woman wins award"| |___________________| 17,325 RTs, 64,523 Likes

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"Building culture is hard, but fermenting culture is easy. It's what life does if you let it. You just might not want to do it in a vacuum, and you need a starter culture." — @RichDecibels

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@piva_jonas bullshit jobs can't be automated tho since there's nothing to do

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Retweeted @visakanv

this is one of the most important memes for the human species

Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

coincidence? I doubt it! what are "they" hiding from us?

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@RichDecibels @SarahAMcManus these are the leaves we found too!

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Retweeted @visakanv

great little phrases are some of the most powerful tools we have

Thread · Memeing new website pages into existence beyond /now

thinking about what other site pages we might meme into existence like @sivers's /now page like most sites have an /about page not all of them will make sense for everybody, though /now is pretty generally-applicable nownownow.com/about

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current list of pages & ideas for pages /now /work-with-me /contribute /capital (if I had more capital) /time (if I had more time)

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@visakanv has a /contribute page, where he lists a dozen ways people can support his work, from patreon & buymeacoffee, to buying his book, to buying *his* book, to stuff like signal-boosting and introductions. visakanv.com/contribute/

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On a call just now, @visakanv said this, and I was like "oh man, can we meme into existence a common website page about that?" /capital = if I came upon additional capital, what would I do with it at different amounts?

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I think most people would benefit from writing an itemized list of what they would do with more time/money/capital/etc, and having it on-hand that they can share with others

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@RobertHaisfield or @groundedSAGE also proposed a /time page, where people write about what they'd want to do with more time (I don't know that /time is quite the right name for it)

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Retweeted @visakanv

me: one of the best things we can do for each other is encourage each other to tweet good shit. friends don't let friends not…

context = everything except the thing, that you need in order to make sense of the thing

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@magicianbrain @Malcolm_Ocean also gives citizenship an immediate monetary value with probably big consequences for managing immigration

@meekaale @magicianbrain yeah that's one of the main issues I'm tracking about it

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

titty

@visakanv

MARC REBILLET @marcrebillet ·

Y’all up?

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Replying to Jakeup @myhandle ·

"The Statement" by Crystal Pita performed by the Netherlands Dance Theater. I tracked down a full recording of it on an Uzbeki website, it's incredibly cool. Pls recommend other stuff like this. mover.uz/watch/sD16cbcm/ CC @LordChisholm @Aella_Girl

quoting @Aella_Girl: Who linked me this? Idk what this is called but this is exactly the kind of dancing i would most love to do i am not being sarcastic or hyperbolic this looks like peak physical expression https://t.co/fvKwEJQsUo

@yashkaf @LordChisholm @Aella_Girl ^ @visakanv & @RobertHaisfield - this is the video I just mentioned, re body language & stage-acting vs movie-acting

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Retweeted @yashkaf

"The Statement" by Crystal Pita performed by the Netherlands Dance Theater. I tracked down a full recording of it on an Uzbeki…

Retweeted @RichDecibels

collective action problems are collective identity problems

most problems come from overgeneralizing 🧐

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overgeneralizing is inevitable, because we're always explaining the whole of our experience (so far) with whatever models etc we have, and the models don't have enough detail, so we need to stretch them to cover the whole

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twitch plays ceo

Elon Musk @elonmusk ·

Much is made lately of unrealized gains being a means of tax avoidance, so I propose selling 10% of my Tesla stock. Do you support this?

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I love the energy of "minting a new coinage of a word/phrase with proof-of-newness demonstrated by empty search results"

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Boutta drop a new coinage: the stankface principle you know that you’re in the zone of artistic risk taking and creativity, when it’s “so wrong it’s right”, when your face do the stank

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Retweeted @eshear

There appear to be three buttons on Twitter for each post: like, comment, quote tweet. In reality there is just one button: pro…

Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RobertHaisfield @groundedSAGE You wrote that context is everything that’s not the thing but which you need to make sense of the thing These pages seem to be about context in different ways, especially something like “nonactual potential that defines my current limitations”

@meekaale @RobertHaisfield @groundedSAGE ooooh nice

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

context = everything except the thing, that you need in order to make sense of the thing

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RobertHaisfield @groundedSAGE You wrote that context is everything that’s not the thing but which you need to make sense of the thing These pages seem to be about context in different ways, especially something like “nonactual potential that defines my current limitations”

@meekaale @RobertHaisfield @groundedSAGE locate me in action-potential space

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V: "have you watched Everything is a Remix?" me: no V: that's your thing for the day. it eliminated like 90% of my creative anxiety... instead of coming up with stuff, you just need to play with others' ideas that you like" (@visakanv) youtube.com/watch?v=nJPERZ…

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another way to point at what my latest post is about is "thoroughly both/and-ing either/or" malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…

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meme heaven into existence

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The best time to start a company was last year. The second best time is now.

Emmett Shear @eshear ·

Today is the best time ever to start a company. You might fail, you might succeed, it’s a crazy ride either way, and you’ll learn and grow more than at any job.

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New blog post, in which I playfully adopt @Meaningness's terminology of "the complete stance" in order to talk about a subtle confusion I've seen people making after they taste a paradigm shift but haven't integrated it (or don't grok integration). malcolmocean.com/2021/11/mindse…

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

@Malcolm_Ocean you're telling me other people have ordered preferences!?

@ElodesNL ...... 😅 somewhat?

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Have you considered what would happen if your present train of thought became a hypothetical?

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People explain why they're having the problems they're having, via the metaphors they use.

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18 views on a recent YouTube video I uploaded. 3 likes. 4 comments. my aim was about 1 view so I'm doing great

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I have a very incoherent YouTube channel: - original music - rants about product design - dialogues about the forefront of cultural evolution This seems right. It's Malcolm-tube!

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Replying to Oliver Sauter @olivers_tools ·

@groundedSAGE So glad this happened. I was out of service in the last days, moving houses and countries. Happy to join the next time ❤️

@BlackForestBoi @groundedSAGE Oh, this idea came from a convo between the two of you?! That gives a whole different layer of context to it, for me, given that I know what Oliver's thinking about. I almost brought that stuff up on the call actually.

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Retweeted @visakanv

the interesting thing here to me is how much having a story helps. I left my job in 2018 and my plan was “write as much as I…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

ugh i been sitting on twitter for 2 hours instead of working LOL brb

@visakanv this spreadsheet looks very similar to one I made while working on my 2012 album narrowing down which tracks to record, then marking what stage vocals, lyrics, guitar, drums, etc were at (stages = idk-if-even, vague idea, clear idea, practiced, recorded)

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Replying to Von Drake Institute Of Social Pathology @StupendousGrav1 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Only incoherent relative to the mass media branding conventional wisdom, which doesn't apply to people whose audience is interested in actual people rather than carefully crafted human puppet shows.

@StupendousGrav1 Yes. After all, some of my songs are basically "What if culture were good tho?"

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Replying to 337 @ballofgame ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Would you accept a cheap substitute?

@ballofgame by definition, no

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Eutopia is, by definition, the answer to the question "where are we when we ask if we're there yet and everyone says yes"

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instead of: X is Y try: I can't tell the difference between X & Y

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

but you see even here things get messy, because what if I see fraud but it's not actually fraud? ah, now I am a false fraud-accuser. maybe I am a fraud myself? maybe we are all frauds? lmao. a few years ago I would have stressfully slinked away in confusion but I see more naunce

@visakanv "I can't tell the difference between you and a fraud"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

instead of: X is Y try: I can't tell the difference between X & Y

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Hmmmm I think I follow... was thinking about something similar earlier today, about whether a critique is framed as "this is bad for me" or "this is bad for many people [of which I am one]" pros & cons to both, and it depends on context

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is legitimately a little wild to me. I feel like nearly all of my decisionmaking involves cutting through some tradeoffs. Even when deciding between two flavours of snack, it's like "A is high on flavour A but B is high on flavour B... hmmm" for me.

@ElodesNL mmm, damn. yeah. there's so many layers to that. there are always tradeoffs, but there's also in some sense always a right... way... for a system to resolve the tradeoffs, given literally every factor it's aware of and every careabout. *IF* it can find it.

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@ElodesNL the "..."s in the previous tweet indicate me screwing up my face weird because I sort of hate the framing anyway yeah it's very complex I highly encourage personal phenomenological investigations into the nature of choice & desire!

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean It's interesting to notice that how much I use the word like tracks how aware I am about the metaphorical nature of the language I'm using at that time. Like the word like is an attempt at a mini 'epistemic status: leaky abstraction' tag.

@RomeoStevens76 I have noticed this also and resent that people treat it as bad "umm" & "uhh" are also functional words in conversation; the only reason they're out of place while doing public speaking is they mean "don't interrupt me" (one long, one short) abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto…

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@piva_jonas ah, I was using the term "bullshit jobs" in the sense of the technical term that refers not to boring jobs but to jobs where nothing of value is achieved by the person showing up to work every day en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_…

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oh turns out the guy (David Graeber) who coined the term "bullshit jobs" literally proposes UBI as a solution so it's certainly canon that UBI will decrease bullshit jobs, whether or not it's true

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@thehypersphere @StupendousGrav1 critique received! I had fun writing it, and it's an inherently self-referential topic you (presumably) have no idea how much emotional pain I've experienced or witnessed downstream of people (including me) getting the idea but failing to grok it in a fully self-referential way

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subtle disquiet in my body it's time to sleep but … I'm not sure I have words but… * my hand reaches out, seeking something * loneliness? hmm I... don't think twitter is gonna solve that for me tonight 😅 gonna do a lil ~IPF meditation 🥰 maybe (Ideal Parent Figure) ❣️

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For context on barnraisings:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

idea 💡...basically 21st century barn-raising Business Prototype Launch Hackathon one person has a business idea, something that could have an initial offering with 1-2 days of work by a handful of people and... then we make it happen!

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Replying to Mason @webdevMason ·

If you've noticed me tweeting less, it's because I was pregnant, had a ton of unexplained complications that were probably related to my infertility diagnosis, and then miscarried. The last month has sucked pretty hard & when I engage w/ twitter I get more stressed than I used to

@webdevMason 💔💞💗❤️‍🩹

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Replying to Josh Levent @joshlevent ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This was super surprising when I read this book, because I had just finished reading 5 books on UBI and thought I was branching out a little. Last chapter: UBI is back! But he recommends it kind of reluctantly.

@joshlevent bahaha would love to hear what you think about UBI it's one of my top priorities as far as political platforms go, though I'm sure there are pieces I'm missing

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

My latest clarity is the need for UBI (Universal Basic Income) Trying to force companies to pay better doesn't work as well as giving citizens way better BATNAs, which would necessitate companies to get *creative* about making their jobs more attractive! twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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@joshlevent or, if you want an even simpler starting point:

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

tiny twitter strategy guide 🔸follow ppl whose tweets u want inside u 🔸custom search engine for own tweets + fav others 🔸screenshot highlights from links (cmd-shift-4 on mac) 🔸thread threads 🔸humor (memes, shitposts) 🔸vulnerability 🔸improv, not debate 🔸goddamnit, be kind

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@joshlevent I've also found this bit about good reply-game really valuable

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

There is an art to replying and commenting, and probably like 60-70% of people I’ve seen on the internet fail at it. The important thing is not to speak your mind, but to “support” the OP. You can support them by disagreeing well & you can “mis-support” them by agreeing stupidly

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@joshlevent I found you via this great reply, for instance. just a simple "I have a perspective on this that most people wouldn't have. here it is"

Josh Levent @joshlevent ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This was super surprising when I read this book, because I had just finished reading 5 books on UBI and thought I was branching out a little. Last chapter: UBI is back! But he recommends it kind of reluctantly.

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.@SarahAMcManus to me just now: "you're an engineer after all! building bridges of friendship!" ...me: "huh, yeah, that actually, huh. Yeah, I'm thinking a lot about what makes relationships secure enough to handle a given load without collapsing"

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Replying to Leona @dismaien ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I’ve gotten that exact same reaction of disbelief as well - and I say that as someone who still only participates on the sidelines. Twitter seems to be just about the last place people expect - or can even accept the idea of - this kind of supportive and enriching community.

@dismaien cool to see your participation gradually increase, coming from back here:

Leona @dismaien ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @andy_matuschak This is wonderful and exactly the reason why I need to start actively using Twitter to connect instead of just soaking up ideas and delighting in the fact that there is a bubble here in which I feel understood. Thank you for all that you write!

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Replying to @groundedsage

@groundedSAGE @BlackForestBoi @dismaien @TylerAlterman @__drewface is this 👆what caused this 👇? (cc @visakanv since we've been trying to track causal chains of stuff like this) twitter.com/groundedSAGE/s…

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Replying to @m_altcroft

@m_altcroft @DRMacIver yeah you might need/want some products DevaCurl has some good stuff that might work well for your hair leave-in conditioner or gels/creams can be good, though they usually incline towards less floofy I think you have way less hair than me, because I have an undercut & still TONS

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa @m_altcroft yeah I would encourage growth! gotta find out if you like longer before you go back to shorter, because otherwise you might not have the gusto to make it through this length again

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@wholezero @SarahAMcManus I literally started hitting my ring against the countertop when she said that 😂

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Retweeted @MatMcGann

Not gonna lie I thought the moral of this was going to be "stop overengineering, just go round" but no the moral is "overeng…

Replying to brainlet @magicianbrain ·

@meekaale @Malcolm_Ocean requires every individual be legible to the state, machinery to track who got what when, fraud detection for the people who will claim 30x...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@magicianbrain @meekaale > requires every individual be legible to the state this is already true because taxes...? each national id number (SSN, SIN, etc) gets associated with a bank account, each such account gets one deposit every fortnight or whatever

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@magicianbrain @meekaale (also there are also non-governmental, blockchain-based approaches to UBI, that still need to solve the fake-person problem, but can do it some other way (I haven't checked any of these yet myself to know that they work))

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recently heard someone say that almost everything people do is virtue-signalling absurd people are constantly doing *so much stuff*, awarely & unawarely the reason virtue-signalling is so salient in this way is because it doesn't work very well so the efforting there is loud

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Replying to Mat McGann @MatMcGann ·

Not gonna lie I thought the moral of this was going to be "stop overengineering, just go round" but no the moral is "overengineer your way over at all costs" and that's just swell

@MatMcGann love this such a great point re finding solutions

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2 kinds of "getting rid of dissonance":  compartmentalization  integration both feel good in the moment! compartmentalization feels like remembering: "oh yeah, of course A is better than B" integration feels like learning something new: "oh, A is missing this thing from B!"

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Replying to Gwen (Chen) Shapira @gwenshap ·

@Malcolm_Ocean By its definition, virtue signaling is a derogatory way we label actions by other people. And as such, it can apply to any activity. Like the negative labels "thoughtless" or "malicious" can describe any action that someone did and disagreed with.

@gwenshap nah, some people label their own actions virtue-signalling 😜 sometimes this is masochism... sometimes this is accurate! virtue-signalling is a game-theoretically appropriate strategy sometimes (not necessarily a *good* strategy but yeah) relates to

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

in PCT terms 🤠 a live player as someone who is actively controlling the variables of interest to them 😣 a dead player as someone who is primarily controlling for *not* getting: - fired, - punished, - bad grades, - made fun of, - ostracized, - etc etc

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean both are good!! (both can be meh!!)

@AskYatharth both are good — ah, good point, although repeated compartmentalization leads to fragmentation of self (or group) both can be meh? I am very aware of mehness of compartmentalization, but what's mehness of integration?

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF many such cases

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Retweeted @joshlevent

Unconditionality is a value who's time has come. Both personally and politically we can benefit from prioritising this val…

Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean do you have any words for any of this?

@AskYatharth yeah "What I want is not a job" that seems close. I'm not sure I can render it any pithier than that "I want something on a different level than [a job]" "I want something that could be served by some jobs and not others"

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Replying to Josh Levent @joshlevent ·

@Malcolm_Ocean And then my specific policy idea would be to give the mandate to the central bank to create personal bank accounts for each resident and deposit a small amount of money into it each month to put inflation to a constant 2-4% pa (exact number depends on country)

@joshlevent huh, not sure I totally follow! but excited to talk with someone who has a more concrete policy idea than me what are the key unique things of your proposed approach and why are they important?

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Replying to @squarebitchris

@squarebitchris this is the vid: youtube.com/watch?v=v3-4Rx…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF my sense is that the thing to start with would be tossing ideas around on twitter like make a tweet/thread about the universe and see what ideas people come up with could imagine creating a shared time for it (barnraising or otherwise) once it's got some momentum & clarity

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Replying to Vynn @SurenVynn ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Drop the link Malcolm-tube

@SurenVynn youtube.com/channel/UC-NgR…

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@piva_jonas I'm sure you'd agree something vital is achieved by the garbage man showing up to work every day. Like not in a "grand accomplishment" sense, but *everything* relies on being able to process waste. Shitting isn't an accomplishment, but you won't accomplish much if you stop 💩

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean That makes sense I was raised in an interrupt heavy communication environment

@RomeoStevens76 Me too!

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

@Malcolm_Ocean For sure! Been focusing on that recently and likely will for some time. Yesterday I felt into that sense of rightness when choosing which artpieces to place where, felt great. Not pictured: the 15 pieces I printed but which ultimately didn't make the cut. mobile.twitter.com/ElodesNL/statu…

@ElodesNL 💪❤️‍🔥

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Getting into flow in conversation is easy, as long as nobody is attached to that happening in a particular way.

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Replying to Rat King Crimson @Alphiloscorp ·

@Malcolm_Ocean That's a pretty steep contingent condition, at least to most. Learning to discount its cost for all involved? Now that is the hard part. Until it isn't because, praise be, it is a skill that allows some sorts of mastery.

@Alphiloscorp Yes, very aware of that. It's a sort of tongue-in-cheek statement.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @SarahAMcManus icymi x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: My wife predicts divorces & failed relationships with stunning accuracy and I have learned a few of her tricks relationships are fucking hard, and to work they need a sort of functional “economy” (gratitude, laughter, kindness) and waste elimination system (pain, resentment)

@visakanv @SarahAMcManus I've seen it but thanks for the reminder very resonant with thinking I've been doing on this topic, and hadn't seen the thread since then

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Replying to @HiredThought

@HiredThought oh fyeah

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

tomorrow I am going to claim an 'airdrop' of $ENS for having owned michaelashcroft.eth for a couple of months and I'm not entirely sure what this means but I'm here for it

@m_ashcroft oh huh I would have gotten in on this probably if I'd understood it but I kept going to whatever.eth domains and they had nothing on them so I thought it was a file extension instead

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

@m_ashcroft Siiiigh. Time to go figure out what the hell to do

@the_wilderless @m_ashcroft Is it still possible to register and get the $ENS? may register anyway but seems worth asking

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Replying to Gnostrils @gnostrils ·

currently working on a mathematical proof that being evil makes you retarded

@rothosphere very interested in this, assuming you're serious have had some similar thoughts seems to apply to organizations for sure probably also individuals for the same reason, except sociopaths?

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

in today's episode of "tim blais slowly become cryptopilled much to his encringement" i'm looking at granular details of memecoins particularly SAMO. Check out those downward candles. someone big saw the price rising and thought hey, time to cash out! it did not go as planned

@MasterTimBlais "encringement" 👏

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Ugh I updated to android 12 and in addition to a dozen random-ass UI changes I've already discerned are worse than before, it completely broke my cell service. What the actual fuck @Android? I have work to do.

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Replying to reddy2go @reddy2go ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Android the reason i switched to 🍎 is cuz otherwise, i'd be flashing custom roms at midnight and trouble shooting into the wee hours just to get back cellular service in time for the next day 😅

[video]

@reddy2go @Android I hear you but also 🤮

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean man the point of life is not to integrate everything it’s to *do things* man x.com/AskYatharth/st…

quoting @AskYatharth: There is an inexhaustible amount to learn about magic, about your psyche. If you consider it the One Truth, you will be devoured by what was meant to free you.

@AskYatharth integrating everything is doing things doing things is integrating everything

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated as it wants to be integrated.

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Replying to Jack @jackinwarsaw ·

@m_ashcroft @meekaale It'd be pretty funny to try it out. Subject: "Opening up possible futures by unfixing awareness"; minimum 1200 words, due next week.

@jackinlondon @m_ashcroft @meekaale I would contribute to crowdfunding this we could get GPT-3 to write a version too, while we're at it see if people can tell which one was GPT-3

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@meekaale I need to write this fucking essay don't I

@m_ashcroft @meekaale yes

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RobertHaisfield @groundedSAGE It reminds me of an idea that describing myself and describing the outer world as I see it are somehow identical or isomorphic because they’re each other’s inverses

@meekaale @RobertHaisfield @groundedSAGE

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@HephaistosF "perceiving what is so" is more powerful in a PCT frame though than it usually implies like, "perceiving what is so in terms of action gradients"

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Replying to Kasra @huggingpuppy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean What do you mean?

@KasraKaley it's a reference to stuff like this where a bunch of people vote on what to do, with hilarious and frustrating results knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/t…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @Android Yeah that's probably it lol

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean man the point of life is not to integrate everything it’s to *do things* man x.com/AskYatharth/st…

quoting @AskYatharth: There is an inexhaustible amount to learn about magic, about your psyche. If you consider it the One Truth, you will be devoured by what was meant to free you.

@AskYatharth importantly there's also a lens of like, you only need to integrate whatever needs integrating on the way to doing the stuff you want to do

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...vaguely musing about creating an Ultralistening to complement @Ultraspeaking...

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Retweeted @MichaelGendler

Eckhart Tolle takes a 12 second pause 💣 "i’m not waiting for the next sentence to come and i hope you are not either.…

Replying to Ultraspeaking @Ultraspeaking ·

@Malcolm_Ocean 👂

@Ultraspeaking (if I'm aiming to create something that's remotely similar in structure, not just a thing with a similar name, I'd probably want to take yall's course first! Have heard tons of good things.)

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

How well I'm doing mentally now would have been so inconceivable to myself 3 years ago Her scale just didn't go this high

@captain_mrs reminds me of this image, that @SarahAMcManus has on a tshirt: "recognize how far you've leveled up internally" raminnazer.com/products/recog…

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*have thoughts about PCT & expanded awareness & choosing what to do next* *want to express to @m_ashcroft* *puzzle about what medium to use* *open zoom meeting* *hit record* *talk for 5 minutes* *post to youtube* *tweet* youtube.com/watch?v=aLn6Ue…

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Thread · Spending time not doing the thing, and self-energizing motivation · 1 of 14 tweets

you know that thing where you spend a lot of time NOT doing something? like you can't actively do anything else (spontaneously nor decisively) because you're supposed to be doing the thing, but you're also not doing the thing because of some conflict/resistance

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Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689

Whoa, great Twitter hack Don't bookmark things, Write "thank you" tweets under stuff you genuinely appreciate instea…

Replying to Matt Jugo @Jeanvaljean689 ·

7/n If you are making direct comparisons between @obsdmd + @RoamResearch , it is highly likely that you just haven't yet noticed the things that Visakan noticed about Twitter - that it's the *combination* of threading + quoting, that makes for a powerful recombination engine.

@Jeanvaljean689 @obsdmd @RoamResearch connection between @visakanv & @RoamResearch not a coincidence

Conor @Conaw ·

@QiaochuYuan @uncatherio @Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv Malcolm also used @visakanv to drag me back to this glorious cesspool. My current feeling is that it is a new app, and max 10,000 people are using it.

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Thread · Spending time not doing the thing, and self-energizing motivation · 1 of 14 tweets

I don't have a simple answer the main solution I've found is getting out of the situation, either by committing to doing nothing else until I've finished the thing (works for one-off projs but uhh not fulltime job) or by just deciding "not gonna do that"

monk @mechanical_monk ·

@Malcolm_Ocean …yes you were gonna follow up with advice on how to stop this right?

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reasons (learned via coherence work today) why my system prefers feeling powerless in relation to figuring out good marketing for complice.co:  💪 "I don't want to be controlling people"  🤑 "then I'd have to decide how wealthy I want to be"  💁‍♀️ more demand on my time

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Thread · Spending time not doing the thing, and self-energizing motivation · 11 of 14 tweets

in fact, usually this situation is caused by some part of me believing something to the effect of "if I wait long enough this problem will go away" eg  • "I shouldn't have this problem in the first place"  • "this should be someone else's job"  • "this problem doesn't matter"

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@fvathynevgl replied to the first tweet "yes, work" and yeah, this situation is kind of a definition of "work" in the negative sense as @AskYatharth so brilliantly puts it, "Work is whenever you’d rather be doing something else."

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

Amazing how I can turn anything into work. 💁‍♀️🤙 Calling my friends? 💼🤧 Feels like work. Got to get through it. Work is not the action you take. It is a state of mind. Work is whenever you’d rather be doing something else.

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Transcending the "wasting time not doing X" problem is why self-energizing motivation is a core principle of my company. Free to do something else if I don't feel like doing what is supposedly most important.

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

“If it feels like work, you’d rather be doing something else. Just go do that something else.” Weirdly, this is leading me right back to the “work” I wanted to do 👀

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Then, organizing the environment so that what people feel like doing will take care of everything that needs taking care of... is the puzzle.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what would we need in order for everyone to be able to do what they feel like doing, and for the result of all of those doings to be that everyone gets cared for in a way that everyone feels deeply satisfied with?

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I talk about the puzzle in this video, exploring how what feels important to do can come from external prompts or can sort of bubble up from within (if we give it space). youtube.com/watch?v=aLn6Ue…

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"if we give it space" points a bit at how it's hard to be self-directed and operate from self-energizing motivation if you're stuck in a situation (eg a boring job) where it feels like you need to force yourself to do shit in order to create enough space to listen to yourself.

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a frame-shift is possible here tho: if you *really see* that continuing to work your job is the best way to bootstrap to more freedom (which it may not be! but if it is...) then you may suddenly actually have intrinsic motivation to keep doing it for now

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you don't have to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself not to force yourself to do things but it's okay if you do

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in fact, if you *don't* have clear unconflicted motivation towards something, that's a sure sign that part of you thinks it would be bad (at least in its current form) maybe multiple parts!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

reasons (learned via coherence work today) why my system prefers feeling powerless in relation to figuring out good marketing for complice.co:  💪 "I don't want to be controlling people"  🤑 "then I'd have to decide how wealthy I want to be"  💁‍♀️ more demand on my time

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if you encounter this, the thing to do is to find a way to create dialogue between these disagreeing parts, which may require first acknowledging that they don't really trust each other the obstacle is the way malcolmocean.com/2021/07/intern…

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Complice is a fascinating piece of this whole puzzle too one way to think about the core workflow is "given what you care about long-term / big-picture, what do you feel like doing?" try it out at complice.co (is this marketing? 😅🦋)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

it's funny when people see I built a productivity app and then they think I'll be on top of to-dos all GTD-style I just do what I feel like and Complice is a way to remind myself what I feel like

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This 👇 by @prerationalist is also great advice. Latest update to Complice is a NOW page, that just asks "what now?" You pick something, from a list or whimsically, then there's just 3 buttons: ✅ Done 🅾️ not now ✖️ not today Repeat 🔁

prerat @prerat ·

@mechanical_monk @Malcolm_Ocean you gotta just decide whether you are doing the thing Right Now or not (maybe Later) like imagine you're another person w/ god's eye view who is guessing whether you will actually get going on the thing in this time slice. if they'd predict you won't, then just Do Something Else

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Replying to 🇨🇦 Samir Al-Battran @Connexinet ·

Every time I go to twitter to check something, I get lost in my timeline, then I leave forgetting why I came here in the first place!

@Connexinet kinda like a mall might be a bit optimized for this

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

There's the Gruen Effect, which talks about this in the context of malls. > "The Gruen transfer is a psychological phenomenon in which an idealized hyper-reality is realized by deliberate reconstruction, providing a sense of safety and calm through exceptional familiarity."

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

Do you make a semantic distinction between “double quotes” and ‘single quotes’?

@AskYatharth yes-ish in both cases though it's quite subtle

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

I used to think center and centre meant different things. Because we used British spelling in math class, but supermarkets used American spelling. So “centre” is the middle of a circle, but a “center” was a shopping center. x.com/AskYatharth/st…

quoting @AskYatharth: @lioninawhat yes! centre = geometric middle, center = gathering of people

@AskYatharth huh, as a Canadian who started doing html & css at a young age, they feel almost opposite to me "Toronto Eaton Centre" or other malls but style="text-align: center"

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Replying to Jakeup @myhandle ·

@WilliamAEden There could be something to it, but heredity is also a thing. If you're +3 SD your parents and siblings are at least in the neighborhood. You're not drawing from a mean of +0 SD.

@yashkaf @WilliamAEden yeah I feel like I didn't go crazy in part because my older sister was obviously very obviously very smart by the time I got to school, so there was just a sense of "smart family" which was maybe more stable or something tho had its own weirdnesses & alienatednesses

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

Tell me something you really like about yourself lately

@gptbrooke getting way better at doing what I feel like, which I was already pretty damn good at

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

it's a good session when the client both cries and also computes a fourier series right

@QiaochuYuan @planetaryperson thought you'd appreciate this tiny thread about math+emotions tutoring

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I grok this more after a bunch of hanging out with @LordChisholm

Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle @DrDoyleSays ·

They're gonna tell you to have the "courage" to face your triggers-- but what they don't realize is that you don't lack courage, you lack energy and focus. You're f*cking EXHAUSTED. This isn't about fear. It's about figuring out how to effectively rest, regroup, and reset.

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Replying to Alex Godofsky @AlexGodofsky ·

am I the only person who finds the "you can't dismantle the master's house with the master's tools" quote kind of problematic as a metaphor because, as a metaphor, it's obviously wrong?

@AlexGodofsky yeah, bad metaphor 💯 to steelman tho, you can dismantle a particular master's house using the master's tools, but you can't dismantle the phenomenon of "master's house" altogether because you become the new master instead

avery @averykimball ·

"The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" -Audre Lorde Even the metaphor betrays the intent of these people to keep you subjugated. Of course the master's tools can dismantle the master's house. How do you think masters got *power*? Master's tools. Fuck.

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Retweeted @visakanv

you can imagine a little nonsense, as a treat. as long as you don’t hurt anybody it’s perfectly legal

this seems like a "de dicto / de re" problem these words are my least favorite jargon but they feel important sorta like "use/mention distinction" (signifier/referent) can we invent better terms? #neologizing (looks like multiple meanings already plato.stanford.edu/entries/prop-a… )

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@AlexGodofsky yeah, bad metaphor 💯 to steelman tho, you can dismantle a particular master's house using the master's tools, but you can't dismantle the phenomenon of "master's house" altogether because you become the new master instead twitter.com/averykimball/s…

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Replying to @original_chills

@original_chills oh really? fuck

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean salience-based productivity aka effortless/coercionless/doing something you don't see-less productivity none of those feel totally right

@AskYatharth yeah the salience thing is what I'm talking about here

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I talk about the puzzle in this video, exploring how what feels important to do can come from external prompts or can sort of bubble up from within (if we give it space). youtube.com/watch?v=aLn6Ue…

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv This here photo is cooler than anything I will ever be able to attain.

@m_ashcroft @visakanv how's it going, one year out, on attaining this level of coolness? does it now feel within reach?

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Thread · Sketch of a political platform for an ideal Canadian party · 22 of 28 tweets

Policy 3: decriminalize all drugs. Three elements/reasons there: 3A. The opioid crisis is kind of a health issue but moreso a social infrastructure issue & can't be treated effectively while drugs are illegal. Prohibition has failed.

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3B. Let people have whatever experience they want to be having, if they're not harming anyone else. People are surprisingly good at self-regulating when given the chance, but this isn't obvious because of what's in their way. = the right-to-qualia argument against prohibition.

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3C. Psychedelics...? I don't know (does anybody?) what a sane trajectory looks like on that front but there's clearly some magic (=advanced technology) there & Canada could be at the forefront of both academic & citizen research into the power of intentional relaxation of priors.

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Policy 4: another meta thing, except globally: formally adopt Simultaneous Policy (SimPol) and encourage other countries to do the same. Solves, distributedly, the race to the bottom from international competition without international regulation. twitter.com/jim_rutt/statu…

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Policy 5: more meta: Starting with experiments on small scales like cities, adopt systems like pol.is to encourage citizens to design & critique creative win-win solutions to problems.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Instead, because there's an up-&-down-vote system & cool visualizations of clusters of voters, people are incentivized to focus their efforts not on arguing but on coming up with proposals that will get upvotes from EVERYONE, not 1 faction. aka omniwin, aka common preferences

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Policy 6: Climate. Solving thoroughly may require SimPol, but in the meantime... I don't know the details here but it seems like the thing to do in terms of betting on a sane future is investment into R&D + manufacturing of green tech. Maybe subsidize installation more?

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6B: Obviously, in Canada, to do anything major with Climate, gotta get Alberta on board (major oil exporter). Not sure how to do that; would seek ideas from climate-concerned Albertans. Maybe build plastic factories in Alberta so the oil gets made into stuff instead of burned?

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6C: Nuclear power. We've got lots of relatively uninhabited space that's safe-from-tsunamis-and-earthquakes on the Great Canadian Shield… I'm aware of some other tail risks to nuclear power stations but it seems probably good. +fusion actually imminent?!

Will Jack @willwjack ·

Humanity is on the cusp of practically limitless energy via nuclear fusion and basically nobody is talking about it, which is nuts. I left working in fusion because I was skeptical of the field's ability to progress, but my mind has totally changed (1/n)

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Policy 7: Education... separate credentialing from teaching. Teaching should be a mix of using the top free online resources (go at your own pace!) and small-group high-touch vibing. Ratio depends on subject. Mixed-age groups good for sanity—teach to learn.

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7B Find ways to make schooling less coercive... programs like Responsible Thinking Program based on PCT seem to be a majorly good patch on the existing system, allowing kids space to learn while minimizing the extent to which they have to constrain themselves to arbitrary rules.

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7C I'm genuinely not sure what the leverage points are here as a government that still has to deal with: - parents needing their kids to be out while they're at work - the value of public education for getting people out of poverty (& providing safety for abused kids)

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7D Since my teens I've been stoked about the idea of instituting a 1-2year apprenticeship break for students around ages 12-14, where instead of trying to pay attention to classes while being obsessed about the politics of sexual status, they find a way to contribute to society🚀

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7E I'm very open to a better proposal here about how to approach education policy. I haven't researched possibilities and am mostly reasoning from first principles. (Also aware education is primarily a provincial mandate, but eh)

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Policy 8: Increase Resilience in supply chains. At the start of covid, I read that a lot of Canadian raw produce (wheat, cows) is shipped to the US to be processed (bread, burgers) then shipped back to Canada to be packaged & sold. We can do more of that locally.

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Policy 9: Entrepreneurship & Feral Free Agency: Empower more people to start businesses via grants & making self-employment taxes even lower (they're already way better in Canada than USA afaict). Maybe UBI enough here, but probably more that can be done.

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Policy 10: Dental care is health care & should be covered 🦷 But also probably we are very confused about dentistry. Poor teeth alignment are a sign of bad chewing & mouth posture. Braces strain teeth & weaken roots. But incentives align for govt to solve that if paying for it.

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Policy 11: Learning from covid. Prioritize vaccine manufacturing capacity & related technology, so we're not waiting on other countries the next time there's a pandemic. Have extra PPE of various kinds, and manufacturing capacity there.

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11B: Take air quality seriously: various regulations and incentives, and potentially even creating a whole manufacturing plant to outfit millions of homes and businesses with better air filtering systems. These systems should also detect mold and too-high CO₂.

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Policy 12: Explore ways to use prediction markets to make better decisions. I haven't looked into this in depth but it's related to the covid thing—the citizens collectively can sometimes figure out things leading experts can't, due to blindspots or career investment.

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Policy 13: @StartSocieties —encourage more experimentation re cities & society more generally. Make it easier to apply for special economic zones or other programs. Support experimentation with cryptocurriencies and other alternative currencies.

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Policy 14: Get indigenous communities+wisdom thriving. Less land acknowledgement lip service, more experiments. This 👇 seems like a great move. Probably many more similar & different moves to make. theguardian.com/cities/2020/ja…

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free title for anyone who wants it: "Irreverend" (based on @SarahAMcManus mishearing me)

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first draft of this done might go through other party platforms later and see which points I've just completely not covered

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🧵 a sketch of a political platform for my ideal party, which doesn't remotely exist in Canada. (inspired by reading @HFreinacht's excellent 2nd book The Nordic Ideology, combined with a recent federal election in Canada in which I felt really dissatisfied with all the parties)

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One summary is: • on many dimensions way MORE progressive than any of the existing parties (supporting UBI, full decriminalization, etc) • very pro-diversity but zero-woke when it comes to things like identity politics & speech-policing & sloganeering • climate, duh

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Another gloss: "libertarian + UBI"? 🤔 UBI is energetically compatible with libertarian in the sense of UBI being small-government compared to anything where the govt *decides* who gets it.

Josh Levent @joshlevent ·

Unconditionality is a value who's time has come. Both personally and politically we can benefit from prioritising this value over other important values like fairness.

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Replying to @liminal_warmth

@liminal_warmth I first felt inflation with chocolate bars, because they were the first thing I ever budgeted for and tracked sale prices for still feels wrong that a 40-50g bar costs more than a dollar, when 99¢ used to be the MOST I would ever pay

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

What forbidden knowledge would you like to reveal?

quoting @DRMacIver: What forbidden knowledge would you like to acquire?

@captain_mrs you are not to blame

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

aim: to absolve everybody's sin, but actually explain to people exactly how I'm doing it so they can check my work it's insufficient to just insist that people trust me when I declare the previous moral regime has expired (even though Jesus was entirely correct on that point!)

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Retweeted @meditationstuff

search engine that solely returns effort posts

Replying to Anne Smith @bsmithfmly ·

@MasterTimBlais @LossFunxionLovr Cosmic Engagement Officer?

@bsmithfmly @MasterTimBlais @LossFunxionLovr Chief Enthusiasm Officer?

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @prerat "incline towards"?

@AskYatharth @prerationalist oh yeah that's a tweak I added to my own Complice experimentally, inspired by @meditationstuff's protocol which uses the phrase 40+ times basically instead of saying "do this" it's more like "orient towards doing this, see what happens"

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

A feeling that‘s been rummaging around in my head lately: ”Anything except kindness is confused.”

Replying to prerat @prerat ·

@gptbrooke ccccccrjkungivnbivnkjlivvkulbkithbvgkccguuvr

@prerationalist @gptbrooke ded

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how many microusb cables do you own that you've never used?

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Retweeted @mollyfmielke

kinda sucks that most systems assume you’re motivated by external validation and not striving for excellence in your own…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

"Visa are you saying that there's information about famous public figures that's underreported and underrepresented because hardly anyone tries to go looking for primary sources even tho it's actually quite accessible and you just need to make an effort?" x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: @Neats29 exactly. now you know why I am fucking crazy all the time

@visakanv re "making an effort"

Molly Mielke McCarthy @mollyfmielke ·

"just came across this interesting piece" = I explicitly googled 4 variations of words to describe this topic, triangulated the right terminology using operators, ⌘-clicked the 9 top matches, ⌘F'd each one to see what they were saying, and this one wasn't boring. bon appetite!

quoting @zebriez: TFW @mollyfmielke sends you something to read and of course it’s a pdf of a whitepaper

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I don’t think it’s something to be super joyful about. It’s kind of a curse. There’s a lot of responsibility in it. I can’t hide for long from the fact that my actions or inactions lead to a lot of consequences for a lot of people. I can try and meditate and be ayy lmao about it

quoting @visakanv: I often find myself referencing this Steve Jobs quote about what it’s like to have the means to take responsibility for your own dreams, and can be held accountable for them https://t.co/xCmONgaOCP

@visakanv ah, the giftcurse

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I used to lament that things were so poorly designed. (I have the eye—I can't not see it. It's a gift and a curse.) But then I realized that it's much more accurate to say that most things weren't designed at all.

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Retweeted @lauralondon_

Pro tip: anytime you want to apologize for something express gratitude instead Instead of saying "sorry this took me so…

Replying to 🎭 @deepfates ·

@visakanv hell yeah, glad to help. You should think of me anytime you're gathering a team okay? I assemble real good

@deepfates @visakanv 💪❤️‍🔥🤝

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Retweeted @deepfates

This is one of my best all-time Twitter moments. I should have been asleep but stayed up a little longer to find this diagra…

Replying to alice @aliceisplaying ·

@ElodesNL

@__justplaying @ElodesNL is that comic sans? 😂

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

What sort of hardware setup would you need to make eye contact on video actually work?

@DRMacIver @zachphillips has a high-tech prototype here that I am gonna back the moment it hits kickstarter (idk if this is in the works but I'm gonna meme it to happen)

Zach Phillips @zachphillips ·

In his newsletter, @david_perell asked for "the Sonos for home audio-video setups—without the wires and complexity—with the ease and quality of an iPhone camera," and offered to help/invest in such a company. 1) His assumptions are dangerously wrong. 2) I built a prototype. 👇

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

scientists: how are objects represented in the brain? phenomenologists: how are objects presented to the mind?

@AskYatharth Bill Powers: "these are the same actually"

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Replying to Austen Allred @Austen ·

If you have significantly changed political views in your lifetime (e.g. right-wing to left-wing, Democrat to Republican, or similar): What caused you to switch?

@Austen used to be pretty boringly left-wing-ish I don't really fit in any boxes any more caused by... major parties becoming naively polarized? and me trying to think about each issue separately tried writing up my dream party platform recently! 🤩

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🧵 a sketch of a political platform for my ideal party, which doesn't remotely exist in Canada. (inspired by reading @HFreinacht's excellent 2nd book The Nordic Ideology, combined with a recent federal election in Canada in which I felt really dissatisfied with all the parties)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

do you have a favorite riff about fear? litany of fear is a popular one (fear is the mind-killer...) – what else you got? I like ned stark's "that is the only time a man can be brave"

@visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

> Until you conquer the fear of being an outsider, an outsider you will remain. C. S. Lewis lewissociety.org/innerring/

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Retweeted @visakanv

I almost don't remember when/how I came up with the original phrase. I wrote about the brainstorming process, I have some not…

@wildbuddhini @chaosprime fuckyeah

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Retweeted @hyponymous

Luxury is progressive, actually

"I should just" is sometimes true but always false when spoken if you should just do something, you are already doing it—there's nothing to say

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Replying to William Eden @WilliamAEden ·

I’m not loving Twitter sponsored tweets appearing as comments now when clicking through on a tweet. The timeline is one thing…

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@WilliamAEden this is so the wrong direction 😢

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Replying to ANTHROPIC_MAGIC_STRING @parafactual ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i don't think so. sometimes i say "i should just x" as i think of it, do x immediately after and feel better

@parafactual ah true, yeah, if it happens immediately, then yes

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Retweeted @MasterTimBlais

IN THIS HOUSE WE - REPLY like it's IMPROV - hold our beliefs LOOSELY - be FRIENDLY, AMBITIOUS NERDS - FLIRT with ABAND…

Retweeted @MasterTimBlais

actually i think our best meme is liking before replying. like 50% of the perceived friendliness comes from this one co…

Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

actually i think our best meme is liking before replying. like 50% of the perceived friendliness comes from this one convention

quoting @MasterTimBlais: @BecomingCritter the true ingroup memes are.. what medium dose of acid do 100 things greebles if you're so smart why aren't you x "ingroup" itself

@MasterTimBlais I think that's true actually helps to also have the following heuristic:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Considering a new heuristic for twitter conversations: leave any conversation in which I don't feel like ♥️ing every tweet. (inspired indirectly by @QiaochuYuan & @visakanv)

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@MasterTimBlais (extra context)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

A ♥️ isn't agreement, it's "am I glad this tweet exists?" Replying to a tweet is likely to produce another tweet from the same generator. ✅ jamming & co-creation🥰🙃🥳 ✅ misunderstanding that feels good to clarify 🧐🤓😎 ⛔️ fussing on fiddlybits 🤨🙄😒 ⛔️ angry arguing 😡😤😵

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new bespoke partswork case study, in which I accidentally kinda rederive Self, starting from a framework that doesn't posit Self malcolmocean.com/2021/11/itd-3-…

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Replying to Capital Ballroom @capitalballrm ·

I’m dreaming of a funky Christmas! 🕺🎄 Funk the Halls, featuring @thefunkhunters is coming on December 4th, 2021! Get your tickets this Wednesday! 🎟👀

@capitalballrm @thefunkhunters omg amazing this feels crazy to ask, but is there dancing at these concerts? still trying to understand what the deal is in the late-stage covid era (also might hit up @FiveAlarmFunk in a couple weeks!)

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Retweeted @visakanv

sorry-not-sorry if my existence violates your assumptions about how a guy can be, lol

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I’d be curious to read the diary or account of a financially independent retired person who feels burnt out from overworking themselves on stuff they don’t technically need to do

@visakanv describes me somewhat I mean I don't think of myself as "retired" at all but Complice has been making me a median sort of salary for 5 years regardless of whether I do stuff towards it and I've been often very busy tho mostly pretty encouraged—I only get burnt out for 1-2 days

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the optimal number of fires might not be 0, but it’s really something to see people running around screaming with their pants on fire when it’s entirely preventable with the slightest foresight and planning

@visakanv I love how the "awfully specific" segue works with the tweet as a QT, as well as a reply

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

Why is one the cutting edge and the other bleeding I thought they were the same edge

@gptbrooke nondualism

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Replying to Dashiell Bark-Huss @DashBarkHuss ·

@KasraKaley @visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean @reddy2go @EyalShay2 @SissiPhys But facilities is more difficult. Some things are open, some are not. I don't know if theres an official way to do it. But, for the restricted facilities you'd have to borrow an id/login from a friend. I did this when I ghosted at another college.

@DashBarkHuss @KasraKaley @visakanv @reddy2go @EyalShay2 @SissiPhys depending on the school, some id/logins last a long time after you take a leave of absence from school, so you could quite potentially register for classes then drop out in the first few weeks, get a refund, and just keep hanging out in the scene

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Replying to Kasra @huggingpuppy ·

If you could have an education system redo, how would you get educated? CC @visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean @reddy2go @EyalShay2 @SissiPhys

@KasraKaley @visakanv @reddy2go @EyalShay2 @SissiPhys I was getting started with programming & web design at age 12 or so, would probably want to dive deeper into that, do more projects, go into business in a serious way even earlier than I eventually did (19-21)

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Replying to reddy2go @reddy2go ·

why are we still getting off using terms like first, second, and third world countries? isn't this a sign that we're not sharing resources and responsibilities appropriately? is it any wonder everyone's migrating to web3 from all these failed states (1st/2nd/3rd)?

@reddy2go my understanding is that these originally didn't map onto level of development (that usage came later) but onto 1st: "allied with (or occupied by) USA" 2nd: "allied (or occupied by) with USSR" 3rd: "not aligned" which is why you rarely hear of 2nd world countries anymore

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean > but actually explain to people exactly how I'm doing it so they can check my work this articulates your core philosophy and superpowered skillet better than anything i have seen

@AskYatharth thanks 🙏💪 superpowered skillet? 😂🍳❤️‍🔥

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @prerat hey randomly noticed yesterday that the Complice.co site doesn't really show off the Reviews feature much at all, right? I wanted to quickly show that to my friend cuz we were talking about the power of looking backwards

@meekaale @prerationalist yeah I guess it doesn't! there's a bunch of stuff missing from the Features page that I haven't gotten around to adding complice.co/features

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Replying to Arnav Bansal @itsarnavb ·

@meditationstuff @Malcolm_Ocean damn i wanna build this now

@itsarnavb @meditationstuff do it :D

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Replying to prerat @prerat ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @AskYatharth @meditationstuff is the idea that you check it off after you incline towards doing it, whether or not you end up actually doing it? or still just nevermind it if you sit there for a while and still don't do it?

@prerationalist @AskYatharth @meditationstuff yeah I would still only check off things I actually do the incline towards is just a lens for how to relate to the item honestly I've basically forgotten it's there at this point, so it's not really doing much

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Replying to J0eCool @CountJ0ecool ·

@knarizny @Malcolm_Ocean @AlexGodofsky I'd say you can dismantle the house, but you can't build a new house with the same tools without running into the same problems So you need to learn how to build in a new way, and at that point do you really need to tear down the master's house? (Yes, yes you still do)

@CountJ0ecool @knarizny @AlexGodofsky ah nice and then once you can build in a new way, you might find that your new tools are better for tearing down the master's house, but maybe not but that's sort of not the most important thing at that point

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @AskYatharth I now always forget which one is BrE and which one is AmE

@m_ashcroft @AskYatharth as a Canadian I basically consider it my duty to use whichever spelling seems most aesthetic to me and give zero fucks about who else spells it that way gotta roll with the Zs in organize, for instance and can never remember where they're from

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @AskYatharth same with gray and grey, thank you css

@m_ashcroft @AskYatharth græy

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Replying to Mike Plotz (59/100 morning walks) @hyponymous ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @m_ashcroft 💭 Something about cultivating (non-naive) trust in the parts of yourself that generate affordances so that you can choose well in the moment And sometimes the parts that are most generative are in your past or future selves, and a good system includes them to some degree

@hyponymous @m_ashcroft exactly, yeah

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

great example of "just do something healthy that others can observe"

@natural_hazard yeah, it's an example of the thing we talk about!

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Replying to Dr. Dad, PhD 🔄🔼◀️🔽▶️ @GarrettPetersen ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Anyone who has written a dissertation knows this experience.

@GarrettPetersen I haven't, but I've heard good things about the Unschedule as an approach for making this sort of situation sane njlifehacks.com/the-unschedule…

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not enough people have seen this yet +@visakanv, curious to get your take on it

Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

actually i think our best meme is liking before replying. like 50% of the perceived friendliness comes from this one convention

quoting @MasterTimBlais: @BecomingCritter the true ingroup memes are.. what medium dose of acid do 100 things greebles if you're so smart why aren't you x "ingroup" itself

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Replying to Razberry Raccoon @RazberryRaccoon ·

@ChanaMessinger That was an excellent book

@RazberryRaccoon @ChanaMessinger which book?

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Replying to @warrenmansell

@warrenmansell @doctorcochrane @WiringTheBrain @kevinmcld @MNWH @anilkseth @tom_merrill @verbajim @EvadeHullu @RestoreControl @mol4control @NoahGuzman14 @NoahCowan @TimDalgleish @perceptualrobot @MotorPerception @HenryYin19 oooh "collective control" strikes my curiosity big-time I'm very interested in how control systems scale up fractally beyond individual people

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btw @visakanv have you tried this particular hip stretch? it's really gud

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

This "World's Greatest Stretch" lives up to its name. I usually don't feel much difference from doing stretches but this one I noticed an immediate asymmetry after I'd done it on only one side. Have been doing it regularly since and 🤩 Source: youtube.com/watch?v=BGrw5z…

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barnraising #2 in just over 12 hours come help release a card game, or help me bootstrap the barnraising process itself

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Announcing virtual barn-raising #2, coming up next weekend! @missrachelreads has created a math-learning card game for kids with dyslexia, that she wants to get printed & marketed. Saturday 7pm-midnight Eastern Time = Sunday 8am-1pm Singapore Time (we did the DST/TZ math!)

[video]

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I'm sure I'm not the first person to notice this but if you consider "I have a gift" it means both  🕴️‍♀️ "I have a unique talent"  🎁 "I have something to offer" maybe the reason so many "gifted children" get stuck is they have no outlet for their gifts

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

people want to contribute

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa @Saurya I think it's like how when something's right in front of your eyes it looks bigger than the sun you're cited & talked about here more than anyone with a million followers ergo

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Replying to Gorm @metaphorician ·

It's been a long time coming, but I finally finished my text introducing "metaphorical realism" I discuss the concept of reality, go through the purgatory of skepticism, and assert that metaphor is the key to understand how our minds relate to reality metaphorician.substack.com/p/metaphorical…

@metaphorician reminds me of some of what @SarahAMcManus has talked about in relation to confusions she saw people have when trying to integrate ayahuasca experiences

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Thread · Crowdfunding, fungible money, and group needs-and-resources conversations · 4 of 19 tweets

Crowdfunding something for someone who could already somewhat afford that something is a profoundly meaningful activity (Visa isn't rich btw, but he is eg giving a $1k grant this year) Let's see if I can articulate this.

Gorm @metaphorician ·

Let's get @visakanv a laptop upgrade for Christmas! The man's a treasure. He deserves equipment that can keep up with him. Donations are TRIPLED thanks to matching funds by both @jambarree and an anonymous benefactor! 🎅🎅 Please help spread the word! gofundme.com/f/lets-give-vi…

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The fungibility of money is weird. It makes it hard to figure out what's reasonable to pay for (and how much) and makes it hard to connect the dots of how your contribution to the world has wound back up to your present abundance great thread:

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

this reminds me i wanted to tweet about the emotional dynamics of money not fully baked yet but: something funny happens imo when you organize your money into a single big anonymous pile, such that a dollar you spend can't be identified with a dollar you earned

quoting @artpi: @visakanv @QiaochuYuan Would it help to label this money: "cash so I can take the tab for friends who struggle", "cash for dog shelter", etc? "It's not for you - it's for a cause." I did it before, but I totally dropped the ball on charity and need to restart. (I need to be a be

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I'll finish this later, but for now I'll leave you with this:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@QiaochuYuan I think I don’t like being reminded that I need money to live Some disappointment, some embarrassment I lean pretty heavily on my wife to handle most of my financial paperwork and I am rather ashamed of that My parents were not good with money and I have ugh fields there

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

four mutuals log on to a call “im just wrapping up a thread” “same” “mood”

Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

four mutuals log on to a call “im just wrapping up a thread” “same” “mood”

@AskYatharth it's such a mood!

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Retweeted @paul__is__here

Increasingly aware, when it arises, of the phenomenological sense of "entropic fuzz": of having reached the frontier of…

tell me wagmi without telling me wagmi

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

This feels like sort of a reachhhh, but I wonder if holding something helps engage more of a graspy / left hemispheric mode (to complement other more right hemispheric / receptive aspects of prayer)

@jonathandubin Yeah guessing that's part of it. Prayer is very much about the relationship between the left & right hemisphere. It's about the LH saying "I want this but it's not fully in my power to bring it into being deliberately... can has?" and surrendering that intention to the RH

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Replying to @phallusoraptors

@phallusoraptors guys can moan too you know

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Replying to @phallusoraptors

@phallusoraptors could empty it down the drain (can clog tho!) or into the compost bin could drink it although it might taste like rubber at that point, which isn't great

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Replying to 🎭 @deepfates ·

It would be nice if I could wake up and go into a chat with all my friends but they give me quests of things that are actually important to do and we all do quests together and make a bunch of money and change the world. instead of just refreshing the tweet stream over and over

@deepfates I'm working on this! on various scales in the limit:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what would we need in order for everyone to be able to do what they feel like doing, and for the result of all of those doings to be that everyone gets cared for in a way that everyone feels deeply satisfied with?

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Replying to 🎭 @deepfates ·

It would be nice if I could wake up and go into a chat with all my friends but they give me quests of things that are actually important to do and we all do quests together and make a bunch of money and change the world. instead of just refreshing the tweet stream over and over

@deepfates if you're free the next few hours, come join the barnraising party! & help with either @missrachelreads' quest to help dyslexic kids learn math, or help me with my quest to do a dozen more barnraisings!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Announcing virtual barn-raising #2, coming up next weekend! @missrachelreads has created a math-learning card game for kids with dyslexia, that she wants to get printed & marketed. Saturday 7pm-midnight Eastern Time = Sunday 8am-1pm Singapore Time (we did the DST/TZ math!)

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Retweeted @deepfates

It would be nice if I could wake up and go into a chat with all my friends but they give me quests of things that are actual…

Retweeted @NotPotBol

Reposting the greatest shitpost of all time.

Replying to Present & Correct @presentcorrect ·

@mtthwcp is it not? The information was via CNN and also here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertushka

@presentcorrect @mtthwcp > The telephone was designed for only receiving calls from the leader. maybe this explains how it works—it's not that it gives you a secure way to call the leader, but the reverse

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Replying to Omar Rizwan @rsnous ·

@djmicrobeads yes, I like the idea that the phone is this unforgeable channel that itself contains the authority to talk to the Kremlin / to your friend. (maybe that's sealed in a secure element or something.) rather than you already know their phone # and just buy the phone as a convenience

@rsnous @djmicrobeads yeah very cool I came across this on a wikipedia article (might be about something different tho)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@presentcorrect @mtthwcp > The telephone was designed for only receiving calls from the leader. maybe this explains how it works—it's not that it gives you a secure way to call the leader, but the reverse

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can't wait for this-but-it's-a-video-game

ya @sportsracer48 ·

The prompt mask does not come through at all, but the palette normalization was able to keep the palettes coherent and present even in the fastest zoom! gfycat.com/cleverrigidcony

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean my jokey tagline-bio for one of my future ebooks, @aftergifted, is "seems you can't return this particular gift"

@visakanv @aftergifted fuck yeah, nice I love that you have a handle to collect the book tweets

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @m_ashcroft ill make sure `from:malcolm_ocean organize OR organise` when i do twitter search then

@AskYatharth @m_ashcroft it's always Z for organize sometimes my aesthetic varies in the moment, but not that one

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Retweeted @jgreenhall

Web3 will have arrived when it develops the replacement for Wikipedia.

@SeishinWrites yeah, the place where these things trip up, in my experience, is where they try to explain too much, or explain themselves in science terms "feels magnetic" is fine but then sometimes people are like "it's electromagnetic fields" and like umm no sry that's something else

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@SeishinWrites @meditationstuff @uncatherio @selentelechia are potential people and may have other recommendations for you!

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Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

ah so like having a job

quoting @deepfates: It would be nice if I could wake up and go into a chat with all my friends but they give me quests of things that are actually important to do and we all do quests together and make a bunch of money and change the world. instead of just refreshing the tweet stream over and over

@mechanical_monk same energy haha

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

me, musing: I want to have a thing… where other people can invest a bit of time & energy in it, in a way that feels good to them, and that generates money, that they could have some of… also me: "sir, that's called a company"

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@mechanical_monk (tho also I think there's a real thing here that @deepfates is pointing at that existing jobs/companies basically aren't yet, that I'm working to try to pull into existence)

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@mechanical_monk @deepfates the "in a way that feels good to them" is a pretty vital part of the whole thing most companies don't let you slow down very long (if at all) if things stop feeling good

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Retweeted @DRMacIver

It vaguely occurs to me that a series of guides on how to leave your industry and retrain in another one would probably be q…

Replying to Kaj Sotala @xuenay ·

@Malcolm_Ocean How do you feel about NEDERA's core feelings as reference levels, or is that a different level of abstraction?

@xuenay it's a good Q! could imagine those 9 core feelings roughly being intrinsic reference levels (or rather, the positive versions) PCT has a model of feelings/emotions being what shows up to the extent that something's blocked fear not predominant emotion if free to just flee

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You can verify for yourself. Or at least I think you can. You'll have to verify for yourself whether you can verify for yourself.

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Replying to Chris Orozco | Operation Moksha @OperationMoksha ·

The me a couple years ago would have fucking lost it and would have panicked over having to spend $300. Money it seems, very much bought me happiness.

@OperationMoksha money+integration bought you abundance, which bought you happiness a lot of people panic even about problems they can totally afford to pay to fix, because of shadow stuff that gets activated

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some tantric khandro-pawo energy here ❤️‍🔥

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Retweeted @RomeoStevens76

Seeing clearly and letting go are two aspects of the same motion. If you can't let something go you are resisting seei…

Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

Seeing clearly and letting go are two aspects of the same motion. If you can't let something go you are resisting seeing it clearly. If you can't see something clearly you are afraid of letting it go.

@RomeoStevens76 this is very connected to part of what I'm getting at in malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Oof. From the speaker's vantage point or the "you" in the tweet?

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$77 bounty (or free ticket) to whoever can first tell me why the GCI landing page is so slow to load (in a way that's actionable enough to fix it) pretty damn sure it's not a network thing (unless stripe checkout script?) since also v slow on localhost complice.co/event/plan2022…

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I ran a profiler yesterday but I have no idea how to interpret this

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean First question (maybe annoying?): wb it feels slow to you? it feels relatively snappy when I load it

@jonathandubin oh weird, it takes like 20s to load fully on my machine huh, not on firefox though! snappy there 🤔 but at least 5s when in incognito brave (& chrome, just tested that)

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@jonathandubin this is super helpful data tho, not annoying at all gotta get multiple perspectives in order to triangulate

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I did just get a new macbook 😅

@jonathandubin

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF one of them is something like "this is obvious to me and I think it's self-evident" and the other is something like "you're saying this is obvious and I'm trying to figure out if I'm seeing what you're seeing"

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Replying to out blind spot @TPSReport ·

@Malcolm_Ocean 1. unconscious incompetence 2. conscious incompetence <-- we are here 3. conscious competence 4. unconscious competence

@TPSReport nice

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because we are pretty good at narrowing our attention to a realm where logic works, and logic by its very nature is the thing that works when we do that

Pickle StrikesSomeViewersAsHarsh-Man Should Die @picklehomer ·

Why does logic work?

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Replying to Pickle StrikesSomeViewersAsHarsh-Man Should Die @picklehomer ·

Why does logic work?

@picklehomer

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

because we are pretty good at narrowing our attention to a realm where logic works, and logic by its very nature is the thing that works when we do that twitter.com/picklehomer/st…

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Replying to Chris Orozco | Operation Moksha @OperationMoksha ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Of course a shit attitude will make you miserable with or without money but a person with a good attitude will have much more happiness with money than someone with a good attitude and no money.

@OperationMoksha oh, very much agreed increasing amounts of money maybe require increasing amounts of creativity and/or self-knowledge to get similar happiness-return-on-money results

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Retweeted @AlecStapp

A race between the US and China to develop nuclear fusion could be extremely helpful for fighting climate change No matter…

Retweeted @balajis

AR Sigils for DAOs I’d like to see a demo where someone creates a hovering symbol outside a residence that’s only visible in…

Replying to Hormeze 𐤄𐤅𐤓𐤌𐤉𐤆 @hormeze ·

I can't believe that a scribbled signature is a legally binding thing and that I have to do it everytime I pay my bill at a restaurant. Its so absurd

@hormeze this gets me every time too (although my credit card payments are always tap or chip now) also that virtual "signatures" also count, even when they're literally my initials in a script font

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

I don't know when it happened, but at some point in the last few years I stopped believing in democracy as an ideal form of governance. It likely was a vital step in social evolution, but now it feels broken and outdated.

@Aella_Girl yeah, there's clearly something important about having government responsible for caring for all of the people & perspectives of all being governed, which information-theoretically requires their input but voting for reps is definitely not the best way to do it, for many reasons

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Replying to Josh Miller @joshm ·

Which piece of software / app has created the most interesting self-serve onboarding flow? I hate tooltips so much. Carousels are better (@linear puts them to great use). Any other prior art worth checking out?

@joshm @linear people have commented that they love my app complice.co's onboarding flow it introduces the goal-setting process one step at a time, then magically coalesces that into the Goal UI element used later throughout the app here's a demo I just made for you:

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Retweeted @visakanv

Q: did you ever have a before/after moment where something clicked for you re: how to think about the stuff you do? Calendars…

@joshm @linear btw I just signed up for the waitlist and I am stoked af that there's innovative work happening in this space

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

brb just reinventing the entire concept of web browser including questioning the idea of "tabs" as a basic metaphor we forget this, but tabs are a weird vestigial bastardization of the old file/folder metaphor am writing about this publicly on roamblog: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

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@joshm looking forward to giving yall some deep feedback (I don't have a Mac, so maybe it's way out? but I'm happy to hop on a call and share high-level thoughts I've been having)

Conor @Conaw ·

@KHPavle @Malcolm_Ocean Malcolm is amazing alpha tester. Happy to give feedback as well if you're open to it. Also recommend pinging @amyhoy

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oh a really important thing to add to the original is that the dead player may also be mostly controlling not for dealing with some directly adversarial live player, but more simply for avoiding feeling things or something

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@visakanv you on my "procrastination is about avoiding feelings" train yet 🧐

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

you can't keep making fun of a thing without having some of it seep into you via osmosis, so be careful about what you choose to make fun of, and joke about the outcomes you want x.com/VVlifts/status…

quoting @VinveliVEERA: I absolutely love to see how my parody account independently remixes some of my talking points correctly. If he keeps this up he’s going to become a friendly ambitious nerd himself

@visakanv > you can't keep making fun of a thing without having some of it seep into you via osmosis reminds me of this brilliant short story

David Chapman @Meaningness ·

☸️ The last unenlightened man in the world. A magnificent satire on Buddhism by @slatestarcodex slatestarcodex.com/2019/11/04/sam…

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

I don't really know how to explain what this one is about, sorry. drmaciver.substack.com/p/first-hard-c…

@DRMacIver > they make your life happier and simpler, and all you have to do to obtain that is give up things that matter to you. reminds me of something @jameswjesso quoted from a book on 1920s Jazz musicians: "heroin is great. it turns all your problems into 1 problem: get more heroin"

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Time for me to start scouting for barnraising project #3 👀

An Ting's contemplating... 🤔 @antingreads ·

So happy to connect with @KasraKaley on this barn-raising hosted by @Malcolm_Ocean. Have learnt so much about the possibilities of using Notion, and he has answered my many questions, showed me how to maximise the tools available for my own magical journalling. Thank you!

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Announcing virtual barn-raising #2, coming up next weekend! @missrachelreads has created a math-learning card game for kids with dyslexia, that she wants to get printed & marketed. Saturday 7pm-midnight Eastern Time = Sunday 8am-1pm Singapore Time (we did the DST/TZ math!) http

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Thread · Crowdfunding, fungible money, and group needs-and-resources conversations · 15 of 19 tweets

So this thing about buying @visakanv a laptop reminded me of a friend's laptop that got purchased in January. The Goal-Crafting Intensive team decided to try @planetaryperson's prototype of a money conversation process, as a way to talk about what to do with the money we'd made

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The conversation form involves each person writing out their needs and their resources, which include financial or fungible items, but also skills and intangibles like "enthusiasm". And one person needed a new laptop. She maybe had enough cash to buy it, but not comfortably.

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We put that item in the middle, and happily routed money from the GCI profit to the friend. But in the process we discerned that she also needed help figuring out which laptop to buy, and tagged in @LordChisholm (a close friend of mine who wasn't in the convo live) for that.

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We barely scratched the surface with what's possible using forms like that but I knew I'd tasted something profound. The next tweet is a reflection I sent to @planetaryperson later that day (which I'll unpack for this thread in the following tweets)

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I think these money dialogues reveal something really important though about actually trying to solve your needs. Somehow doing that together feels like a way different endeavor than trying to figure out if it's okay to spend money you have solving needs you have.

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Human sensemaking naturally occurs in conversation, for better and for worse. When we make decisions, including what to spend our money on, we're tracking what our friends will think of it. This can be neurotic, but ideally it's a source of collective wisdom!

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So one thing that's happening here is that people are voting with their money for someone to get a new laptop. This is clarifying in terms of priority! It hits different when your friends are like "no, definitely get a new laptop!"

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Sometimes ofc, people also need no-strings-attached support—money that's not earmarked for something in particular. That can also happen using dialogues like this, but it's a more advanced challenge (afaict!) than when there are concrete problems to tackle together.

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I feel like I'm struggling to articulate what I really want to say here 🤔

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There's a kind of space of humility, that I've found when I talk to my friends about money. We all kind of agree we don't really know how it works and we're all trying to figure out how to deploy it sanely.

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There's also a kind of space of humility around our needs. I have a sense of what my life would benefit from having, and I'm ultimately the final arbiter on whether something works for me, but maybe my friends can conceive of a more beautiful solution to my situation than I can!

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We're all trying to figure out how to make it all work, from our own vantage points. Eventually it needs to bottom out in paying for energy—both food & electricity. But that doesn't mean it's wrong to make art, or force-multipliers such as @CompliceGoals.

monk @mechanical_monk ·

my brain has ordered me to draw this, wat mean

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As I pause to jam to Taylor's Version on "the ukulele my dad got me for my birthday as covid started", I'm thinking about how my relatives have lately taken to giving me cash gifts, and how I've been trying to "spend it" on something I might not have bought otherwise & tell them.

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The money itself is fungible, but it feels good for the ukulele to not just be "this random thing I bought"

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

this leads to what for lack of a better word i'll call "emotional laundering," and to explain what it means i need to contrast with a situation where less laundering is happening suppose your partner gets you a nice durable physical object for valentine's day, say a gem

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In summary, buying each other gifts is how we relate to our resource flows in a less alienated way, how we help each other prioritize, and how we encourage each other to actually buy things that will help us pursue our dreams but that we've been nervous to take the plunge on.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean now i am going to bed wondering what else u were gonna say in this thread

@visakanv It got kinda long & rambly but I did finish it! Very rough first articulation of something that we're going to see a lot more mature versions of in the coming years.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

i had an incredible tweet about “it’s ____ all the way up” but i forgot it here’s your chance “it’s _____ all the way up”

@AskYatharth dog

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Replying to Niki @nikitanomo ·

am drunk ama

@nikitanomo what's a decision you made that transformed you to make it?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@nvpkp @prerat mmm- ppl can sort of play-act it as a bit, sometimes for a really long time, but when you hit the tuning fork just right and it rings out loud and clear you know when you have been chosen. comedians, musicians, authors, all often have some moment like this

@visakanv @nvpkp @prerationalist huh, I don't really feel like I know a clear moment, with respect to eg my music, which feels like my most arty art but I definitely know the art is real and I'm the only one that can bring this particular art alive (also thanks for the inspiration to go practice guitar again)

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@visakanv @nvpkp @prerationalist (I've been working on a song I want to record, and I'm realizing I've maybe sort of overcomplicated it and should just actually release a relatively underproduced version rather than trying to coordinate more with the producer I've been talking with a bit about it)

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF oh totally, doesn't arise on its own but the training itself can occur via another dead player who is themselves just unconsciously repeating certain patterns may be no live players around

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Replying to @NonMurkyConsqnc

@NonMurkyConsqnc you might like this article of mine where I talk about applying the same approach to reading books!

exoconnor @_exoconnor ·

7/ Come back to an idea enough times, and the groundwork lays itself. It's kind of like @Malcolm_Ocean's call to start more books (malcolmocean.com/2014/07/focus-…) - I can move in so many more directions if I don't try to obligate future me into following through.

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Retweeted @NonMurkyConsqnc

we're optimistic that Gross Domestic Mutinies will increase at an annualized 4.3% rate next quarter. however, across-t…

Replying to Paul @paul__is__here ·

...searchers anyway; those at the very top might have a little leeway) Because of this, and because explanations once found are hard to vary, such explanations tend to be difficult to twist in adversarial directions. So this system can be very useful for trust & coordination.

@paul__is__here based on this and this 👇, I'm excited to jam with you about trust at some point!

Paul @paul__is__here ·

@humanisque @NonMurkyConsqnc and sort of: the point is mostly not to predict one another's behavior at a holistic level (which I think is a mis-framing that decision theories incline toward), but instead to find enough shared structure to handshake on the things we care about

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Replying to Austen Allred @Austen ·

“If you don’t go to college how will you learn to think critically?” Did you all have a wildly different college experience than me? We got the polar opposite of that. You knew *exactly* what a professor believed and you could either vehemently agree or be punished.

@Austen studying engineering, I didn't experience much pressure to *agree* with professors, but I did find the feedback loops conducive to shoddy thinking, which I've had to unlearn since in order to actually make sense of shit malcolmocean.com/2015/06/unlear…

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Response! youtu.be/70yeo_tzYTo

@m_ashcroft yesss the JP "look around and something will reveal itself as wanting to be cleaned" is very much the phenomenon I'm talking about

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Response! youtu.be/70yeo_tzYTo

@m_ashcroft re faulty sensory appreciation I sometimes frame this in terms of confused implications:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

every experience you've ever had was real but almost none of them imply what you think they imply nor do they imply what other people claimed they imply

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nvpkp @prerat I mean if you didn’t have one before it, your wiiwgt jingle seems like an obvious one

@visakanv @nvpkp @prerationalist what do you mean? you know I like, released a whole album in 2012, don't you? maleidoscope.bandcamp.com

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@AshtearLucca idk what kind of "worst" you're looking for but I felt really misunderstood by this:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@alt_visa After I facilitated BioEmotive for someone (basically a stranger) she kept insisting I was such a natural empathic listener, and I was like "you have no idea how many times I've been called an asshole, and how hard I've trained to be able to do this" but she wouldn't have it.

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@visakanv @nvpkp @prerationalist I started playing with a new piece using my loop machine a few weeks ago actually, and was thinking of you when I was working on one of the verses it's called: "Who gets you right up to the edge?"

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@visakanv @nvpkp @prerationalist that phrase has a bunch of different meanings the one that connects with you relates to this:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I don’t believe in trying to resist peer influence or mimesis or whatever. Rather, I try to find interesting peers from different places who, in aggregate, nudge me towards a synthesis that none of them can reach by themselves

quoting @visakanv: @c3po___________ @ghuubear Its easier to seek out an unusually diverse group of influences than to resist influence IME

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Retweeted @visakanv

Why do people ASK other people to RT their tweets? Is it to feel some sort of superficial peer-validation? RT this so I can f…

I get 😑 whenever anyone talks about UBI as something they might try to create for just one person (themselves or others) "universal" points at precisely *not* that use Guaranteed Minimum Income instead

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trying out "understimulated" as an alternative to "bored"

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Replying to Marie @mesolude ·

Ok, giving away ingroup NFTs today! This is a solana NFT, so the fees to send it around are <1 cent There are 150 NFTs total (Dunbar's number), all featuring this beautiful art by @this_is_silvia If you, uh, self-describe as "ingroup", drop your solana address in comments

quoting @visakanv: @mesolude ooooo https://t.co/AkVu4rsPAZ

@mesolude @this_is_silvia solana: FNb83fbcrqfAo9uhP46KBWbpAmmhVVex49hSbWMBTgFK

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haven't watched this yet but it was recommended by a friend and the title makes me think it's our vibe youtube.com/watch?v=H2rG4D…

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I think, in addition to my "day off" today, I'm gonna do a twitter day off. See yall tomorrow!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've kept up a weekly "day off" most weeks since April, and it's been such an amazing habit. It continues being pretty much what I wrote below: - no preplanned anything - no browser tabs to start the day Thread of reflections so far: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @MarkBeylin

old world model: never mix business and friendship new world model: make money online with your friends

Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Huh, noticing that connotes for me that boredom is something that should be fixed, adjusted, or corrected, because it'd be better to be properly stimulated than under stimulated. Is that how it is for you?

@jonathandubin yeah tho I can potentially become properly stimulated by paying attention differently

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF boredom = understimulated & trapped ...sounds right! in this case I was on a call where I didn't feel trapped but also wasn't totally sure how to nudge the scene to work for me better after I noticed & revealed "understimulated", I put on some background music, and that helped

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF YES.

Josh Levent @joshlevent ·

Unconditionality is a value who's time has come. Both personally and politically we can benefit from prioritising this value over other important values like fairness.

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🗨️ silvia received replies ...damn right she did!

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

hi

@this_is_silvia ha, hey! 🙃

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🗨️ silvia received replies ...damn right she did!

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Replying to metakuna (14/100 blog posts) @metakuna ·

deep down I don't believe that your brain is not involved in this reaction I think if you thought hard enough you could stop it

quoting @itunpredictable: https://t.co/7gNWUxR7IU

@metakuna another take:

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people (meditators, rationalists, ...) sometimes treat their non-deliberate thoughts as almost like litter on a sidewalk sort of random detritus as if their entire bodymind isn't a sensemaking system (from a convo with @the_wilderless)

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sometimes one can get in an unusual mindstate and can see things that one couldn't before this is kind of like if you go up to a tall roof, you get a whole different view on the city later your feel of the streets is informed by the memory of the bird's eye view

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all I can confidently say about this is it's a mess t.co/qwlrb68Xch

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@the_wilderless (lots of other reflections in that thread re how I think about this—I don't myself have much personal experience with such dynamics, but I've done some reading and some reasoning about it)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

meanwhile, if we designed systems that worked better for psychopaths, they might actually work better for everyone psychopaths are notoriously not motivated by punishment but it's nigh-impossible to steer *anything* by punishment! yet we still use it twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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I had the idea of making a collaborative tpot zoomquilt... each person would do a layer and then pass it on @this_is_silvia what do you think? who are the other visual artists around here? (what's a zoomquilt? see zoomquilt2.com or arkadia.xyz)

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @the_wilderless Yeah. I've been trying my best to steelman this position lately, and I think there's something there. But still trying to put it all together

@jonathandubin @the_wilderless Nice! If you want to see some of my thoughts on it, I have a draft here: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

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@80c472ec your "i think i love to think…" reminds me of this poem by Feynman:

Prof. Feynman @ProfFeynman ·

I wonder why. I wonder why. I wonder why I wonder. I wonder why I wonder why I wonder why I wonder!

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @the_wilderless Agreed, yeah. This is one of the most foundational cuts of dualism.

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I think when people get blocked on using partswork techniques* a huge part of what's going on is that some parts are vetoing the whole process because it's disrespecting them. *or anything similar, including more rationalist approaches to debugging internal conflicts / "akrasia"

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Great piece by @DRMacIver that resonates with a bunch of the non-naive trust dance stuff I've been talking about... The core insight here (in my language) is that in order to build trust you need to respect whatever distrust you're starting from. notebook.drmaciver.com/posts/2021-11-…

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I think when people get blocked on using partswork techniques* a huge part of what's going on is that some parts are vetoing the whole process because it's disrespecting them. *or anything similar, including more rationalist approaches to debugging internal conflicts / "akrasia"

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> Not all parts of you that are kept away from the world are exiles, some of them are prisoners, and they hate you, and they have every right to do so. from @DRMacIver's latest: notebook.drmaciver.com/posts/2021-11-…

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

@Malcolm_Ocean omg this is so cool! where does one layer end and the next one begin?

@this_is_silvia I'm not sure! clearly they blend them a bunch so it doesn't look like frames but I saw a site for making this sort of image many years ago that basically had a 3×3 grid, where the current image would go in the middle of the 3×3 and then the 8 cells around it would get filled in

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@AltYatharth it's also partially a function of the vibe of the scene who did you think you were tweeting for? not just individually but as a whole context you were probably just being you, but into a vibe that seemed more pro

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Replying to Friend Tasshin @tasshinfogleman ·

if you could only read and re-read one book for the rest of your life, what book would you choose?

@tasshinfogleman tempted to say Science and Sanity by Alfred Korzybski 1930s book by the guy who popularized "the map is not the territory" and founded General Semantics

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Replying to Matt Elder @fiddlemath ·

@ElodesNL "Fizzling" takes forms like: - the solution seems great but it never comes to mind when you'd need to act - when you try to act on the solution you instead get very distracted, tired, or demotivated - you forget about the problem and the solution entirely for days or years

@fiddlemath @ElodesNL hey look this thing I tweeted 5 minutes ago is relevant

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I think when people get blocked on using partswork techniques* a huge part of what's going on is that some parts are vetoing the whole process because it's disrespecting them. *or anything similar, including more rationalist approaches to debugging internal conflicts / "akrasia"

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Retweeted @ElodesNL

one thing that freaks me out more than almost anything is to read journal entries from years ago & find that the exact same p…

Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

one thing that freaks me out more than almost anything is to read journal entries from years ago & find that the exact same problems+solutions I came up w/ mere months ago are described there fully. what is it that makes me continuously lose the most crucial insights of my life?

@ElodesNL mechanically: not reading the journal entries more often part of the workflow of coherence therapy is staying in touch with emotional schemas that would slip back into unconsciousness if we didn't write them down and look at them daily for a week or two

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@ElodesNL (ofc if you have resistance to reading the journal entries, which is common, then probably you need to recurse)

Matt Elder @fiddlemath ·

@ElodesNL Gonna use IFS-ish framing. Turns out that one thing that your parts can do, in order to defend themselves or their plans, is to cause you to forget things that would wreck their plans for you to remember.

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the point fingering the moon

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me: "so tell her <what you think>" @SarahAMcManus: "I can't just say that!!" me: "I mean, she goes to authentic relating" S: "authentic relating is kinda fake tho" me, betrayed: "but... but it says on the tin! 🥺" S: "...it's real imitation crab meat 😂"

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus I can see how it could go that way but it doesn't seem overdetermined that it will. As far as I can tell it's at least one layer deeper, so also maybe I'll get to have novel exciting problems instead of the classic problems.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus Yeah my sense is that small amounts of it can be helpful for giving people a taste of something, but then it needs to continually fall away in order to reveal whatever actual authenticity is. (in case it's not obvious, I was mock-betrayed in the OP, not actually astonished)

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus Yeah I don't have evidence I can present to everyone that it's not overdetermined. I've seen it's possible in principle—compatibly with all my life experiences. You might still have a "but what about" if you saw what I saw tho. = part of the whole thing.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

sometimes one can get in an unusual mindstate and can see things that one couldn't before this is kind of like if you go up to a tall roof, you get a whole different view on the city later your feel of the streets is informed by the memory of the bird's eye view

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus Hmmmmm... yeah this is important. I have a few error-checks built in to my memes that don't seem to be part of other toolkits, although time will tell if my error-checks are themselves self-correcting memewise.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus > Trust me on this one. I trust you know some stuff about this. But... I also know some stuff about this, and I can't just let what you know overwrite what I know. (I could try, but that would just compartmentalize.) So I'm listening and seeing how it all fits.

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@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus The fact that it occurs to you to say "trust me on this" about anything suggests we're not looking at the same path/destination, fwiw.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus The true virtue is intrinsically valuable if you don't install it violently/forcefully. It bears its own fruit and doesn't need to convince anybody, because it's not hollow. That's the thing I'm trying to figure out how to do, with myself and with others.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus You're maybe missing* that there's a nontraumatic way** for someone to grok the 12th virtue. *(embodiedly at least, maybe also conceptually) **(not just accidentally but intentionally) twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @SarahAMcManus Seems obvious to me that almost everybody I know does, they're just all tangled up about how to access it. I'm less certain about "most people" but I think so.

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Replying to John Nerst @everytstudies ·

I'm tired of the rhetorical move of calling an unwillingness a difficulty. It's so lazy and transparent but somehow still popular and works more than it should. That it doesn't have a succinct, effective retort is a linguistic market failure.

@everytstudies yeah this is a result of people disidentifying from the subsystem that's holding the main not-wanting-to-do-the-thing they want to but they also want not to

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Note the difference between: • "wanting to not cry" • "not wanting to cry" You can want to cry AND want to not cry. That's actually very common (about crying but more generally too). twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

@tasshinfogleman I will hack this one: a completely blank book where I can write.

@ricvolpe @tasshinfogleman nailed it

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Replying to @grantadever

@grantadever "knot-doing"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you know that thing where you spend a lot of time NOT doing something? like you can't actively do anything else (spontaneously nor decisively) because you're supposed to be doing the thing, but you're also not doing the thing because of some conflict/resistance

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Replying to + big buddhi + @embryosophy ·

@KGoth999 not quite as elaborate but how about this

@embryosophy @KGoth999 wow

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Replying to Ms. G 💖 @pragueyerrr ·

want to use “darling” enough that it sounds casually chic and not incredibly condescending

@pragueyerrr I'm into it!

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damn, really missing having a 🎹 keyboard I keep wanting to reach out & jam while at my computer gotta actually decide what keyboard I want to get tho I had a thread about this awhile ago, but there are a lot of factors and it's kind of daunting to figure out exactly what I want

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I am writing a beautiful piece called "How we get there" after my friend pointed out that a vision doc of mine he'd read was uhhh lacking a plan. It needs some examples though; it's currently hilariously abstract. Maybe I'll read it through with someone and articulate some live.

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> Find what fills you up, and shape yourself in a way that can actually hold it. If there is something that might possibly fill you up, then you need to have the bottom on the jar—if you are just a bottomless pit, endlessly seeking external validation... soundcloud.com/ariintheair/fu…

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After months of lull & a month of schedule-wrangling, this podcast convo happened this morning! And wow, what a conversation ❤️‍🔥🤯🪂 We talked about how differences in perspective can create depth perception that allows us to perceive hyperobjects like the metacrisis together.

Ari @AriintheAir ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Interesting. I've actually wanted to talk to you for quite a while. Maybe @RichDecibels would vouche for me.

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Is there a way to bottle excitement so I can use it later? After convos like this I feel so hype I can't even use all of my excitement, and then other times I'm like "uhhh sometimes things are fun and worth doing?" and it would be nice to be able to restoke myself.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

After months of lull & a month of schedule-wrangling, this podcast convo happened this morning! And wow, what a conversation ❤️‍🔥🤯🪂 We talked about how differences in perspective can create depth perception that allows us to perceive hyperobjects like the metacrisis together. twitter.com/AriintheAir/st…

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In the audio, he distinguishes striving to be on top from striving to master your art/craft/discipline, which is more about taste and/or flow, even in the context of competitive sports. A vital distinction. Making jazz is great just for yourself!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

recently heard someone say that almost everything people do is virtue-signalling absurd people are constantly doing *so much stuff*, awarely & unawarely the reason virtue-signalling is so salient in this way is because it doesn't work very well so the efforting there is loud

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Retweeted @ricvolpe

Twitter (or something like it) will blossom to what only few can imagine today

@visakanv I'd like to record a What If It Were Good Tho conversation with you, talking about our visions for how the twitter platform could be way more amazing. Feels like a better medium than writing for some of what I've got to say atm, & I wanna grok your follower-mgmt stuff.

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Retweeted @anielsen108

Once someone replies to one of my tweets, I don’t own the tweet anymore, it has escaped me, and I no longer have the right…

@visakanv Oh wait no you're probably still-up-late at this point haha, or now asleep. Let's talk in like 8h or something, when you get up.

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"The easiest way to keep something secret, in my experience, is to keep telling everyone, all the time" — Ted Nelson

nelswag @TheTedNelswag ·

The ZigZag Secret Plan

[1 more photo]

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Replying to james, the giant peach @JimmyRis ·

Need recs

quoting @spiral_virus: Psychedelic cowboy music GO

@JimmyRis listen to the first track of this you won't be disappointed (I don't say that often) youtube.com/watch?v=wABhwI…

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Playing around with @ricvolpe's "who tweeted that?" game (not yet live) & so fascinated by how this tweet would land differently if tweeted by: - @eshear (twitch.​tv exec) - @ejames_c (mental models & biz) - @michael_nielsen (quantum physics & memory) - @JimmyRis (…? futurist?)

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context:

Ric @ricvolpe ·

Having fun here trying to prove the point that "behind every avatar there's a universe" Guessing who's behind each tweet makes me engage with the content quite differently, in a more active and explorative way

[video]

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Retweeted @hormeze

He did it

Replying to Hormeze 𐤄𐤅𐤓𐤌𐤉𐤆 @hormeze ·

@danlistensto He defined reincarnation very non metaphysically- as in 'yes experiencors of 'I' will continue in other meat suits after I die so I'm that sense 'I' will live on in another body'

@hormeze @danlistensto strange-loopily-speaking, experiences of Alan Watts are also continuing in other meat suits!

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Retweeted @chumulu

seeking a name for the experience of being continually inspired by the flow of ideas in the tweetstream - chance favours the t…

Replying to 🌱 Julia M. Rosedale 🌱 @JuliaRosedale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean How good are you at establishing specific sensory triggers?

@JuliaRosedale I have played around with this for about 5 minutes over a few years. Often when I'm in these stoked moods I listen to certain songs that match them, and it would probably work at least sometimes to listen to these songs to hype myself up!

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Replying to Hormeze 𐤄𐤅𐤓𐤌𐤉𐤆 @hormeze ·

@toomanylzrds God I wish it was that easy

@hormeze @toomanylzrds

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countersignalling among my temporal selves

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean quick video, 1-2 mins

@visakanv I tried this a bit tho most of them didn't get quite down to that shortness (more like 3-10mins) good idea, worth trying more maybe

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Retweeted @rosaclewis

'Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow…

If your awakening doesn't include ____________.... Keep going

Rosa Lewis @rosaclewis ·

If your awakening doesn't include embracing the physical reality of being one human animal on this planet who has a full range of emotions.... Keep going 🐲🌋💪💞

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good short thread about masculine therapy t.co/GweD2Y6A4l

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@sashintweets yogurt + oats/granola + chocolate chips + hemp seeds chocolate milk + protein powder, banana, almonds assorted raw veggies omelettes etc toast + spreads + cheese

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Replying to Arbutus Tree @aphercotropist ·

As in all things, the correct stance is the golden mean of Non-deliberate thoughts are random noise from the lower/lesser monkey mind Non-deliberate thoughts are messages from God, over-saturated with meaning, however inscrutable it may be

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: people (meditators, rationalists, ...) sometimes treat their non-deliberate thoughts as almost like litter on a sidewalk sort of random detritus as if their entire bodymind isn't a sensemaking system (from a convo with @the_wilderless)

@aphercotropist maybe it's mostly both!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Sometime people ask me if I'm joking or serious, or kind of 50/50. I like to aim for simultaneously being mostly-joking and mostly-serious.

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Retweeted @natural_hazard

contradictions aren't bad because they make your logic explode, they're bad because they're oscillations that will drai…

Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@m_ashcroft @Malcolm_Ocean False reference level very related to Duncan's recent Fabricated Options post on LW

@RomeoStevens76 @m_ashcroft false reference level? (I forget if that was a term one of us used) ie attempting to do something that isn't actually possible?

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Replying to @flowerornament

@flowerornament @tasshinfogleman I've only read the first 100 pages of that 700 page tome, so not quite that's part of the joke of my previous tweet—it would finally get me to finish the book lol anyway, there's this:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The Korzybski Gap (by Romeo Stevens)

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Replying to 🌱 John Ash 🌳 @speakerjohnash ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @the_wilderless Yes! I have a tweet from a while back about greeting your thoughts with kindness and that the thought is a messenger and you can treat the messenger with kindness even though you disagree with the message. It's this frame that put my OCD into remission @JaredJanes @cognazor

@speakerjohnash @the_wilderless @JaredJanes @cognazor yessssss exactly

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Replying to sílvia is @this_is_silvia ·

@Malcolm_Ocean hiiiiiiii 😘

@this_is_silvia

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Replying to Paul @paul__is__here ·

@Malcolm_Ocean that sounds cool :)

@paul__is__here maybe ping me spontaneously for a call sometime you see me online? I'm trying to keep my schedule more open rather than booked these days

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Replying to @EvadeHullu

@EvadeHullu @m_ashcroft Hmmmm... I get a bit confused around this, like what does it mean to "be at a level"? The whole system is functioning on all levels at once, ofc, so something more about the spotlight of consciousness? Then expanding awareness is maybe about broadening how many levels one sees?

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean is the metacrisis the fact that the proliferation of crisis narratives drives bad social dynamics that prevent coordination that causes crises?

@RomeoStevens76 haha that's the meta"crisis" metacrisis is simply the crisis that we're good at making crises and bad at handling them (or something; I think) it's not personally a lens I use for stuff; I agree with concern around doom narratives, and we talk about that a bit in the episode!

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Replying to jonathan @jonathandubin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @the_wilderless makes me wonder what this whole "thing"/self-stance is downstream of

@jonathandubin @the_wilderless downstream of identifying with only a tiny fraction of oneself and treating all the rest as foreign

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Replying to Ms. G 💖 @pragueyerrr ·

@Malcolm_Ocean ok great thank u!!

@pragueyerrr np darling! conscious nudging of language is one of my things. u can always count on me for support in neologizing and so on

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

contradictions aren't bad because they make your logic explode, they're bad because they're oscillations that will drain energy from the system x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Analogy between certain paradoxes (eg "this sentence is a lie") & physical oscillating "buzzers". Goes back & forth: on implies off implies on, 1 implies 0 implies 1. Diamond: A Paradox Logic has more values than "true" & "false". Also has "true but false" & "false but true". ht

@natural_hazard this reminds me of this excerpt of one of my recent posts: malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…

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there’s a sort of inevitability to “work needs doing”

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@HephaistosF and how you manage that responsibility is up to you, different people have different specialisations and styles, and different systems work well for different contexts, but there’s a sort of inevitability to “work needs doing” in some shape or form that can’t be run away from

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Retweeted @HephaistosF

K guys. I have a serious idea for a Hopepunk sci-fi setting. I want to write some good stories in this setting, and I also…

Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @visakanv wow this is epic, yeah I have unarticulated thoughts on how to have conflicts that resolve into omniwins rather than win/lose dynamics

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one part's "self-sabotage" is another part's "freedom fighter"

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

“life after tcot”

@AskYatharth if tcot is a time epoch, which year is year 1?

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Yeah!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@AbhayPrasanna Beautiful, yes. Also: May each aspect's apparent resistance to dialogue be seen as it standing for the integrity of what dialogue looks like to it, and not losing that integrity to someone else's idea.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Yeah, this is true. I think I won't be able to deeply integrate its truth til my next arc. I'm still on a pendulum arc of having realized that I & others were wasting a lot of resources burning them up in oscillation by trying to solve it *less* cleanly.

Hazard @natural_hazard ·

contradictions aren't bad because they make your logic explode, they're bad because they're oscillations that will drain energy from the system x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Analogy between certain paradoxes (eg "this sentence is a lie") & physical oscillating "buzzers". Goes back & forth: on implies off implies on, 1 implies 0 implies 1. Diamond: A Paradox Logic has more values than "true" & "false". Also has "true but false" & "false but true". ht

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@HephaistosF > "system has insufficient resources to process the conflict, & a decision has to be made with the resources available now" Sometimes true but even when it's not true people psy-op into thinking it is. &/ getting better at conflict-resolution means way fewer resources required.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Mmm. ♥

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Yeah. Reminds me of song lyrics I'm working on! you are whole you have got... your own thing going and I have so little way of knowing everything you must hold you are whole if I see no other choice I'll fight you but I'd rather thrill and delight you if I may be so bold...

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@HephaistosF "if I see no other choice I'll fight you" is an attempt to capture the reality of fighting (/ I-it) sometimes being all we can do, and neither defending it nor apologizing for it, while recognizing that it's not the best game, even if it is the best game *available from here*

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot > If you fully trust you will not lose touch with what you know, then others’ ideas cannot harm you. > If you can’t trust that about yourself, then you're vulnerable and must inhabit a guarded stance in order to avoid losing touch with what you know. from malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Yeah, this recursive iterative map-making & map-picking process is a core piece of trust-dancing, because if your map and my map are (inevitably) missing aspects each other's has, then you can't just update to my map (& vv) because it fails the selection criteria.

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@HephaistosF I guess this is going under an assumption of extremely anti-lossy selection criteria, which as far as I can tell is what everyone is doing nearly-always, although sometimes ofc people compartmentalize in order to (unstably) adopt a map that contradicts some of their knowings.

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@HephaistosF With adequate degrees of freedom, one essentially doesn't have to do that. Under some constraints, one might have to, in order to sort out a present predicament. My sense is that most people (that I talk to at least) aren't under such constraints in most domains; you may be.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Hm. I think ultimately the main defense I can create against people faking it is helping people learn to detect when people are faking it and respond sanely *to that*—which involves saying "I can't trust this [as real/safe]" rather than asserting "this is fake" (even internally).

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@HephaistosF In general, as I see it, whether someone "has their eyes open" in some objective sense is not what allows me to trust them. I can trust them iff *I can tell* they have their eyes open in whatever sense matters to me. So "real & fake" fall away; there's just "what I [can] trust"

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@HephaistosF Although I guess perhaps you are making the more narrow claim above which is that, in particular, people like you will not be able to tell the difference between people who grok what I'm teaching & people who learn to fake having grokked what I'm teaching. Legit, but surprising.

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@HephaistosF Surprising, because I read you as someone with a huge quantity of pretty generalized distrust, so I would have expected that in either case you would have very high standards for trusting and wouldn't be naively inclined to trust someone who didn't meet a very high bar.

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@HephaistosF Ah but desperation. You wouldn't naively trust, I guess, but you'd be desperate to try to sort out *some* deal, due to insufficient BATNA, and this would muddy the waters of who would be a good candidate for that, I guess. twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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@HephaistosF "adopt your system"—the real thing or the fake thing? in theory the system I'm putting forth is intended to surface and dialogue with all of the objections someone would have that could cause them to compartmentalize into adopting a fake version this convo = that in action

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@HephaistosF though I guess part of what you're saying is that someone sufficiently desperate might compartmentalize anyway and make up a fake version broadly I think anyone that desperate is likely to have as much of a problem with someone else's framework as mine... am I missing something?

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Bedtime for me—this continues to be helpful. I need your perspective on all of this stuff in order to have adequate depth perception, since most of the rest of the eyes on this are way too close together to parallax the whole thing.

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@HephaistosF Part of me thinks you have a corresponding sort of opposite blindspot around not being able to see why I *am* focusing so much on the non-physical threat. But maybe you can and you're just focusing on the part you think I'm missing?

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@HephaistosF If you could pass my ITT for why I'm focused on what I am, I think that'd help me trust your expertise better. (Not a demand—I'm trying to listen anyway—but trying to point out a potential useful move in the discussion here, if it's available!) twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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@asemakula mmm, resonates a bit with a concept of Self-full... I've mostly heard @SarahAMcManus talk about it, and I think she has a diagram... not sure if she coined it or got it from someone else

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Replying to Tim is solving himself @MasterTimBlais ·

i'm going to assume that a few of you have suffered from HPMoR-Harry's 26-hour sleep cycle this is my sleep cycle, has been for years has anyone on the TL recovered from this? what'd you do?

@MasterTimBlais Yup! I take a 20min nap almost every day. This might work only in part due to some polyphasic experiments in which I unlocked the ability to REM-nap without being sleep-deprived (by practising a ton when I *was* sleep-deprived). malcolmocean.com/2016/04/polyph…

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Thread · A protocol for learning to REM nap, and REM vs slow-wave deprivation · 2 of 8 tweets

@liminal_warmth Also worth noting that most of what I've said above is based a combination of probably-not-that-epistemically-sound polyphasic blogs, plus anecdotal experience (FACE BRICKS is definitely a THING, whatever is going on under the hood)

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@liminal_warmth On the gripping hand, mainstream models of sleep are shit. There literally isn't a separate wikipedia page for "light sleep", ie the type of sleep that is neither REM nor slow-wave, even though most people spend 2-4 hours doing it every day.

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@liminal_warmth Re the nap, I recommend this lovely audio track that can cancel out a few kinds of background noise, has very gentle waves & subtle bells, then wakes you first softly then increasingly aggressively. Near impossible to sleep thru, no matter how zonked! drive.google.com/file/d/1j2uQ9t…

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@liminal_warmth I nap with it almost every time, and have now played that track into my ears over 2,000 times. Has become a sort of meditation, that is very rejuvenating and grounding regardless of whether I fall asleep! (tho I usually do for at least a few minutes if not most of it)

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realized that something that has me feeling stuck about the Virtual Barnraising meta-project is that I don't have energy towards the process documentation turning "run a barnraising event" into a more checklistified process who would be stoked to watch me & write stuff down?

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

@MasterTimBlais @tpotvibecamp Yessss None will be able to stand before us Although honestly I'll probably be spending most of my time playing board games on my new table 🥰

@gptbrooke @MasterTimBlais @tpotvibecamp this discussion of a table really makes me think of this absurd/evocative/intense/hilarious/amazing dance piece:

Jakeup @myhandle ·

"The Statement" by Crystal Pita performed by the Netherlands Dance Theater. I tracked down a full recording of it on an Uzbeki website, it's incredibly cool. Pls recommend other stuff like this. mover.uz/watch/sD16cbcm/ CC @LordChisholm @Aella_Girl

quoting @Aella_Girl: Who linked me this? Idk what this is called but this is exactly the kind of dancing i would most love to do i am not being sarcastic or hyperbolic this looks like peak physical expression https://t.co/fvKwEJQsUo

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

describe the "hot take" language game to me

@natural_hazard I think it's something like "here's a thing that part of me legit thinks and wants to express but I'm not necessarily going to defend it if pressed, so don't press me because that would ruin the fun"

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

FLIP 100 TABLES

@visakanv yo this legit sounds fun I bet by 50-70, if you had the right sort of table and were strong enough, you could learn to flip it all the way over and have it land on its feet again, which would be SATISFYING because then you could flip it AGAIN! (╯°□°)╯︵ SƎ˥q∀┴00Ɩ

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Thread · Detecting genuine stokedness vs. 'I should be involved' · 5 of 7 tweets

@ricvolpe I think it makes sense to expect that self-energizing motivation will sorta feel like cheating, until we get used to it to be clear, in order for this to not goodhart super hard into all sorts of bullshit, this also requires people to be able to actually know what they want

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@ricvolpe and would also require others (in this case me) to be able to detect when someone is saying "yeah I would be stoked to do that" and what they actually mean is "I feel like I should be more involved and so I should feel like doing this thing I obviously could technically do"

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@ricvolpe and then that person would also somehow have to respond creatively, so as not to minimize the amount of problem created for the person who would then be thinking "I must participate also I am not allowed to participate"

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@ricvolpe To be clear, wanting to be involved or to contribute can generate stokedness towards doing some particular action that one wouldn't be stoked about absent that context, but this is different from "I should be involved"

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Thread · When unblending goes too far and internal parts get reified · 1 of 9 tweets

Thread · Detecting genuine stokedness vs. 'I should be involved' · 2 of 7 tweets

@ricvolpe we need to not get dogmatic about people (not) forcing themselves to do things, ofc which is a whole mess

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you don't have to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself not to force yourself to do things but it's okay if you do

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@ricvolpe but anyway, yeah, this is where I feel my energy come alive towards the barnraising metaproject—figuring out these social nuances of self-energizing motivation these are the things that excite me about this project! this is how it plugs into my vision

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

one dimension along which I'm domino'ing [draft]

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

are you familiar with using any of the following? SSH keys, GPG keys, cryptocurrency keys/wallets

@meekaale I would say somewhere between "a little bit" and "definitely", but closer to "a little bit"

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Thread · A minimalist Twitter setup for tweeting without the timeline · 4 of 7 tweets

Worth noting that this userstyle also focuses permalinks, ie removes the left nav bar & "back" button from them, so you can open up a link to a tweet without getting distracted by notifications.

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In order to really not get distracted by notifications, you might also want this userscript that removes the red dot from the tab icon, and the (19+) unread count from the title.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Problem 😡 I wanting to leave a tweet open for reference or to reply to the thread... but the (1) in the title or the red dot in the favicon makes me end up checking notifications. Solution 😎 this custom userscript I just wrote: gist.github.com/malcolmocean/9…

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Also I don't log into twitter on my phone, but I have a tweetonly widget using IFTTT! So basically the same functionality there! Useful even if you do have the twitter app, so you can go straight to tweeting without needing to dodge the timeline.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@rajlego IFTTT system is a little widget on my android, where I am not otherwise logged in (I don't have the app). My only complaints with it are I can't post images and I can't see the character count so sometimes I go over 280. Also no threads but that's fine. ifttt.com/applets/RWS7dg…

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

is there a twitter portal where i can tweet without seeing anything? like, it's just a composition box on an otherwise blank page?

@natural_hazard so glad you asked! (thanks @aphercotropist for the tag) check out my "post status only" page created simply using a few dozens lines of CSS

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I have a magic page twitter.com/post/status/on…, which, when using this userstyle (via a browser extension like Stylus) creates this page where I can tweet without getting distracted by the timeline or notifications. gist.github.com/malcolmocean/3…

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Thread · A minimalist Twitter setup for tweeting without the timeline · 2 of 7 tweets

great example of Gall's Law, also! before I had this minimalist page, I would just load a random page that would 404, then hit n to open the tweet composer, and use another style to hide everything behind the compose modal window

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@rajlego Beyond that, I have a bunch of userstyles that make things more focused. eg right now in the compose window, everything else is hidden. So to tweet on desktop I go to twitter.com/NVMNVMNVMNVMNV… then hit N to open the tweet/thread composer

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as someone else who is living my dream (and my dream is similar to Visa's) a lot of this thread resonates for me it's a whole trip!

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

there are a bunch of things i wish some earnest person would ask me about, tho if i talk about it now it would distract me from my book lol. but maybe a quick distraction as a treat (been working on it today!!). i wish someone would ask me about what it's like to live your dream

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Replying to Robbie @meagre_memetics ·

@brother_nin @augurydefier @SeishinWrites @visakanv organised a public screaming event in Singapore & I think it's one of the most beautiful things I've seen x.com/visakanv/statu…

quoting @visakanv: Guy who organised public screaming event in Singapore

@robjpalmer @brother_nin @augurydefier @SeishinWrites @visakanv I was thinking it would be cool to do something like this for equinox, in the context of my friends having run some large solstice events

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I hear you 🙃 Speaking personally, I genuinely feel stoked to learn more of how you think about facilitating groups and loosely navigating them towards doing useful things without being forceful and I feel like is a good occasion to learn more and do something useful

@ricvolpe I can believe it! Fairly easy for me to trust this about you, given how much context I have on you and the relationship we already have. I definitely feel there's enough there to start exploring, and rebuild if anything breaks down.

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

If you fancy taking a break come hang out and have some spontaneous fun x.com/i/spaces/1jMKg…

@ricvolpe I'm on desktop web twitter, which has no speaking capability. Don't have twitter on my phone. Also I think you mean "improvving", not "improving" 😛

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Anybody have experience with organizing authors into writing short stories in a given universe? Main instance of this I'm familiar with (particularly in the internet era) is Machine of Death by @ryanqnorth & others. But I'm sure there are many others! twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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Dude, I got so WASTED all through high school. It was CRAZY. I had all these *talents*, and they were like, all *squandered*. Bro.

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Replying to turbz @nicktorba ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This hit me hard

quoting @visakanv: but here's the "aw fuck" thing – this applies TO MYSELF TOO. I HATE HAVING TO SYNC UP WITH MYSELF TOO. OH MY GOD. what I thought I hated about jobs, I really hated about... existence. lmfao. maybe that's too dramatic. what I hate about BANDWIDTH LIMITATIONS OF THE HUMAN CONDITION

@nicktorba Ha, totally. Related:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Is there a way to bottle excitement so I can use it later? After convos like this I feel so hype I can't even use all of my excitement, and then other times I'm like "uhhh sometimes things are fun and worth doing?" and it would be nice to be able to restoke myself. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to lisatomic @lisatomic5 ·

well, withdrew my son from school today-- last day was today, homeschool starts tomorrow I am actually really very excited, he is too

@lisatomic5 💪❤️‍🔥

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

we are really here only for a little while, everything is really so precious and fragile. please be kind and tender with each other ❤️

@visakanv 🥲

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Replying to @pli_cachete

@Tjdriii @LingTolls @visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

me but I've only had 2 in the last 6 yrs anyway (plus one from my sister, who also has curly hair) my hair is currently the longest it's ever been. it's previously reached the nipple when pulled straight but now does as curls! (there's a nipple if you click to expand photo 😉) twitter.com/nkostelic/stat…

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Retweeted @paulg

What's crazy to give away now, but won't be crazy to give away in 10 years? If you can answer that, you may have a good startup…

Replying to neoltitude @ctrlcreep ·

One must imagine Sisyphus covertly hollowing out the boulder over many years, adding a little door and inner mossy padding, so that near the mountain's peak he can jump in and roll down like a human hamster

@ctrlcreep @visakanv, for your Sisyphus thread

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Replying to 🎭 @deepfates ·

@bungoman How do you get from there to people sending you money though

@deepfates @bungoman I actually started by having people send me money before I wrote any code, and that worked pretty well. I found a value proposition some friends were willing to pay for that I'd do manually by emailing them every day, then automated the emails, then built complice.co

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Retweeted @SurenVynn

This is what identity politics could have been but then people forgot that it was all pointless but in a fun way

Replying to Bella Rudd @BellaRudd1 ·

a limerick! a woman who worked as a stripper got pregnant; the boss said 'pink slip 'er' the boss is naive or cannot conceive some guys would be happy to tip 'er! (seriously, dude. variety sells & maiesiophilia (which i'll now have to double dactyl!) is totally a thing!)

quoting @thedailybeast: NEW: A former bartender says a San Antonio strip club fired her after she became pregnant, with managers telling her she no longer fit the “fantasy” of the establishment. https://t.co/c7RudzaW9T

@BellaRudd1 nice double entendre on "cannot conceive" also I think this is one of your best, overall really solid unique rhymes

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Replying to J0eCool @CountJ0ecool ·

Something I really wish twitter had was the ability to transclude multiple tweets in the same QT

@CountJ0ecool I'm working on a blog post about why (and how) they should have this! If you want to read my notes so far, you can do that here. Very interested in your thoughts! intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

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Retweeted @CountJ0ecool

Something I really wish twitter had was the ability to transclude multiple tweets in the same QT

Replying to jack @jack ·

Twitter API v2: easier and faster signup (in seconds!), opening our developer policy (especially for 3rd party clients), and entirely new endpoints and features! Please give us feedback so we can continue to open and evolve it…

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

quoting @ashevat: Today’s API v2 launch is the first step for us in making this vision a reality - We see the future of Twitter as an ecosystem of developer-built apps and services, all serving the public conversation🙌🏼 You can read more about the news in our blog: https://t.co/kjIRJlfCQU

@jack Exciting! I think it would encourage a lot of us to see a reflection from you on how your perspective has changed since the API was restricted nearly a decade ago, so we can understand why there isn't just going to be another similar cycle.

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@jack My understanding is that part of why the API restrictions happened in the first place is that third-party clients meant no ad revenue, and so I'm wondering if there's a plan to align Twitter's incentives towards a more open platform—ie users as customers (vs advertisers).

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Replying to James Stuber 🌱🌿🌳🍂 @uberstuber ·

I'm commuting now so I am once again asking you for podcast recommendations

@uberstuber isn't updating much anymore, but @dthorson's Emerge back catalog is fantastic have recently been loving @AriintheAir, which I also got interviewed on yesterday and it was a blast (my episode won't be out for a week or two tho)

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Replying to Ms. G 💖 @pragueyerrr ·

i would date quite a lot of u tbqh

@pragueyerrr how about comets? ☄️

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Retweeted @natural_hazard

men only want one thing and it's composed of hundreds of smaller things which themselves are all composed of smaller th…

Replying to Lucy Keer 🪣 @drossbucket ·

🤔 Not quite sure about this one-week-on-one-week-off thing. It takes me about a week to remember how to twitter so I've got even quieter. Still the best thing I've tried yet, will give it one more cycle I think

@drossbucket could try 2 weeks on, {1,2} weeks off

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

would you take a vaccine for suffering? (it doesn't reduce pain, emotions intensity, or your perception of stimuli, it just reduces or eliminates the suffering response component)

@captain_mrs this seems like taking a vaccine for confusion I can see why it would appeal —especially to people with a lot of confusion but attempting to solve this problem on this level of abstraction will make you more confused, not less

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

I think there’s a good chance we have a vaccine for suffering within the next decade

@nickcammarata

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@captain_mrs this seems like taking a vaccine for confusion I can see why it would appeal —especially to people with a lot of confusion but attempting to solve this problem on this level of abstraction will make you more confused, not less

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Retweeted @visakanv

silly jokey but serious question, mimetic desire/contagion is stored in the ___(?)____

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

how about this: you either get a letter detailing how they appreciate you, OR, no letter, and a taylor swift style song released to the public about how you suck (you aren’t named in it explicitly but it’s obviously you)

@visakanv yeah there's an appeal to the song; would like that as long as it feels honest

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Retweeted @visakanv

world isn’t ready for the next billion people 🔥

Retweeted @TylerAlterman

This article from @sashachapin hardcore resonates with my experience in EA. For a long while I even celebrated these tox…

@TylerAlterman I think this was a result of him trying to process his whiplash from being pre-2001 Eliezer who is like "wooo, hasten this Singularity, it'll be amazing" to being like "oh fuck oh no, no no no no wait fuck guys fuck fuck fuck" when he grokked the orthogonality thesis

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Replying to @ponekarl

@ponekarl @nosilverv @TylerAlterman I don't think it's that weird; more like "rationality" is shorthand for "the philosophy in the LW sequences" in this context

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Replying to Aizazadi @Aizazadi_ ·

@m_ashcroft ncf.idallen.com/english.html

@Aizazadi_ @m_ashcroft gotta actually tease what this is:

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Replying to @liminal_warmth

@liminal_warmth wait, you were one of the main organizers of this? til

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Replying to Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean One way to have less should-y interactions could be to put out open offers (eg I am going to be on this call at this time working the barn-raising thing and if someone wants to watch me and take notes that would be awesome) and see who actually has the energy to show up

@ricvolpe That's a good idea, yeah. Seems like both is good, because it also makes a difference to me to feel like I've got a good default candidate of person to ping about stuff. Then I feel less alone with stuff. (I have psych stuff to work on there too!)

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Thread · Why letting relative experts jam in public is underrated

yeah these spaces are hugely underrated even informally …let people hear experts jam!

Chris Beiser @ctbeiser ·

people really like the idea of "spaces that are inviting" or where "everyone's expertise is valid" but i think there's something to spaces that are for experts but let beginners float around and observe. i think people learn a lot more that way.

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at a lunch table at a CFAR reunion, honing in with @slatestarcodex on implications of PCT & got interrupted by staff worried about people feeling excluded 😒 then convo fell apart, turned meh (not to say we're PCT experts, but we were *relative* experts, having read the books)

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We're gonna see a lot more ability to do this in cultures shifting out of spiral-dynamics-green 🟢 into spiral-dynamics-yellow 🟡 ...where  • equal dignity & welcomeness &  • equal expertise & attention aren't even remotely confusable for each other. (+ expertise contextual)

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Here's @ricvolpe speaking to appetite to hang out and watch me do what I do and take notes: (I'm not an expert relative to him in all dimensions, but I am on some.)

Ric @ricvolpe ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I hear you 🙃 Speaking personally, I genuinely feel stoked to learn more of how you think about facilitating groups and loosely navigating them towards doing useful things without being forceful and I feel like is a good occasion to learn more and do something useful

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This is, btw, part of what's cool re Twitter—anyone can talk to anyone (all are welcome) but also, if you chime in with something useless on a given topic, you can be ignored easier than in person.

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

There is an art to replying and commenting, and probably like 60-70% of people I’ve seen on the internet fail at it. The important thing is not to speak your mind, but to “support” the OP. You can support them by disagreeing well & you can “mis-support” them by agreeing stupidly

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This doesn't even require being an expert or having any particular status—you just need to be able to ask good questions, or otherwise help draw out people's thinking.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@replyallguy @gptbrooke do you feel drawn towards uplevelling your reply game? conversation, *especially* on twitter, isn't per se about "who" people want to talk to, but what sorts of conversations they want to have, and whether you know how to read & create invitations twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa Idk if you're tagging me re "friends don't let friends say epic phases without tweeting them" 💪 ...or because I use a fuckton of caveats 😅 But either way, yes!

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Replying to Richard Hanania @RichardHanania ·

California teacher’s association seeks to make kids gay, upset that they’re not becoming gay enough, lying to their parents and spying on children’s Google searches and conversations to make them gay. abigailshrier.substack.com/p/how-activist…

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@RichardHanania Wtaf.

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if you die reading tvtropes you die in real life

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF I don't know, but it's a good point! I'll add it to a list of considerations for UBI.

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

I AM MAKING A NEW PUBLIC LIST anyone who is single or poly and open to adding new partners, comment below and I'll get everyone compiled in a list we can all follow and then stalk/flirt to our hearts' content

@gptbrooke

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Haha I got an ad I actually liked. This is an amazing premise for a movie. Dunno if I want to watch it (I don't watch a lot of movies) but I laughed out loud at this trailer.

Prime Video Canada 🇨🇦 @PrimeVideoCA ·

Let's make a movie 🎥 Robert De Niro, Morgan Freeman and Tommy Lee Jones star in The Comeback Trail, now streaming on #PrimeVideo.

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men will literally facilitate emotional coherence work for each other during a business meeting instead of going to therapy 🥲🥺😎

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( = me musing about an amazing coherence coaching session that emerged organically during a Complice work call between me & @joyurge, regarding a stuckness that came up)

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Retweeted @visakanv

lovely reminder that the Chinese people are not their government, just as the American people are not theirs

Replying to @lovetheusers

@jamest_lu @SpencrGreenberg I was like "how the hell does the amazon discount thing work? sus" but it turns out there are a lot of people who want to turn amazon gift cards into bitcoin and are willing to do so at below the cash value of the cards!

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Replying to reddy2go @reddy2go ·

learn to love like a cat 🐱🧵 when it comes to dogs and cats the assumption is often that dogs are more loving while cats are quite uncaring but maybe they just care about themselves so much that there's no bandwidth left... could this be a lesson for me?

@reddy2go @SarahAMcManus 😻

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Replying to David McDougall @dmcdougall ·

I don’t want my ETH back, I want to vote on how we can allocate 40 million dollars to something equally ambitious @ConstitutionDAO

@dmcdougall @ConstitutionDAO that'd be a glorious mess lol

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Shall we take this action? Shall we vote on whether to take this action? Shall we vote on whether to vote on whether to take this action? Shall we vote on whether this vote needs 50% or 60% to pass? Shall we vote on what to do if we can't decide whether or not to vote?

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Replying to J0eCool @CountJ0ecool ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Oo I very much do but will probably not get to it tonight I have *some opinions* about the ways twitter could be like 100x cooler x.com/CountJ0ecool/s…

@CountJ0ecool Yesssssss, stoked to see more people thinking about this. I'm not sure about QTs immediately visible—where would you put them?

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Replying to Rhys Cassidy @rhyscass ·

Great list. Who is missing?

quoting @Joe_Lightfoot_: In this piece I profile a subcultural ecosystem I've come to think of as The Liminal Web. I find it to be an inspiring network of thinkers that brings me hope for the future and I wish to share some of that optimism with you too. https://t.co/FwK3JUGLJ0 https://t.co/hgg2pDwV3e

@rhyscass me 😎 but mostly I don't have a legible handle for what I'm doing yet, or my own podcast, so it makes sense I'm not on the list I guess

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Retweeted @Serjhunt_ARK

What's your account of (deep) understanding? 1) Must be able to activate mental models to turn chaos into order 2) Can…

this whole thread in order to do some things, you need to be doing some nothing first

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

a lot of people try meditating when really they don’t even have time to do nothing in their lives so it ends up adding yet another activity to their already unspacious lives

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa Yeah I wasn't intending to drop the caveats even if you thought I used too many lol

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Retweeted @meekaale

if you can simulate conversations with various beings in your own mind, like you can imagine the advice a certain friend migh…

miegakure

Gene Kogan @genekogan ·

stylegan3 training on landscapes

[video]

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at the gym doing face pulls, deadlifts, bench presses, kettlebell swings 💪🏋️ haven't worked out at a gym since 2013 when I used the office gym at twitter more of a bodyweight guy, but it feels good to be here

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Replying to Vynn @SurenVynn ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Office gym at twitter? You mean you used to work at twitter??

@SurenVynn

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Immensely thrilled to announce I'm joining @Twitter's Activation & Messaging (~Growth) team as one of the F13 in-@terns. Back to #SF I go!

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Replying to @dendricide

@dendricide truly advanced technique

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gyroscopes feel really counterintuitive here, but it seems to me it should be at least somewhat possible to port some of our intuitions from why it's easy to balance on a moving bicycle but not a still one altho I guess that's partly because you're able to error-correct, hmm

Massimo @Rainmaker1973 ·

A gyroscope is probably one of the most fascinating physics toys and one of the most useful applications of conservation of angular momentum in several branches of science and technology [How it works, video by @tweetsauce: buff.ly/2JLMtZ4]

[video]

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

how did you entertain yourself as a kid?

@visakanv bomping on the trompolomp playing Rise Of Nations (learned a lot of history!) spinning a staff making mud pies with paint & other garage chemicals coded a lil flash game at age 13 adventures outside sleepover convos til dawn w friends ...still ish do all of these except mud pies

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Comic that I've found to be a very useful foil for helping me think about noncoercion. (I don't agree with either position here exactly but they both make some really good points and finding a synthesis is deeply worth doing) existentialcomics.com/comic/13

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I'm confused about STUFF. What makes LEGIT. I know what I can post to BLOG. What can I post to SPOTFY?

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(there is a whole comic here of which this is just a tiny excerpt, in case that's not clear)

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from my weekly review, thinking about my ♫ goal: Recentered on Moving Day as maybe not needing to be a fully whatever'd track, maybe I could just release it. Hm.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm confused about STUFF. What makes LEGIT. I know what I can post to BLOG. What can I post to SPOTFY?

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...and then CHAOS bursts in, wearing uniforms...

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I do joke so I can laugh harder so I can live longer so I can do more joke.

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was just woken up by an entire bottle of caffeine pills being delivered to my front door with a knock

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@alt_tatsu galaxy brain: healing *is* reconnecting to your own wisdom

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idk if this review will get approved but I believe that there should be a small dose of comedy pretty much everywhere, so I've submitted it

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF Exactly! The brand is "WakeUps" and man they really delivered!

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

VULFPECK

@natural_hazard VULFPECK

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this reminds me of @vervaeke_john's "relevance realization" concept, which I've been increasingly thinking is important, although I haven't yet found the time to dive into his large body of work @Morphenius gave me a 2 min intro on a call last year; would love a trailhead for RR

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I believe I went to bed thinking “I’m a spider that builds elaborate webs. people call me weird for doing it, and then say I’m lucky when I catch opportunities with them.” And I woke up with - we all have different psychic webs, psycho-graphs, and they catch the world differently

[video]

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

Let’s try another angle too. Say we’ve solved climate change, world hunger and poverty and have become the most incredible civilization. How does everyday life look like in this world? What do people do with their time? What do they eat? Wear? Build? Learn? Celebrate? Dream of?

quoting @made_in_cosmos: I noticed this too. Solarpunk art is rare, solarpunk art on the human scale is almost impossible to find. Where are all the people in these utopian cities? What are they gonna do differently than we're doing now? How is their life gonna look like?

@made_in_cosmos Check out this Hopepunk concept: twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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Replying to Gavriel @GavrielKlw ·

@made_in_cosmos Destroy Moloch (or whatever you want to call the driving force of coordination problems and negative-sum games). Not sure that's enough of a well-defined problem to be solvable but it sure would be bold and ambitious and heroic to make even a little headway.

@NowGoAndStudy @made_in_cosmos as far as I can tell, assuming we don't just completely overshoot, there's a positive-sum dynamic that eventually outcompetes Moloch and we can act to make it more powerful some inspiration: youtube.com/watch?v=hKvVdG…

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Replying to Friend Tasshin @tasshinfogleman ·

anyone else basically just a little bit in love with practically everyone? cool thanks

@tasshinfogleman

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Replying to Jack @jackinwarsaw ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @vervaeke_john @Morphenius Haven't seen better material than his youtube lectures, which are very good. Agreed that RR (as an escape from combinatorial explosion) is a very useful concept, and Vervaeke's analysis of what it can and cannot be (e.g. not algorithmic, can't seek certainty) is great

@jackinlondon @vervaeke_john @Morphenius right but I'm not gonna dive into 50h of youtube lectures just to find out about relevance realization that's a whole national park, not a trailhead 😜 @LordChisholm & I ended up just reading this paper, which is great and we're only in section 3 ❤️‍🔥 contrastiveconvergence.net/~timothylillic…

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Replying to human age @human__age ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Which point/s were most salient for you?

@Human__Age that the whole frame of it as a struggle that must be won is confused I'd been reading a bunch of PCT (Perceptual Control Theory) at the time which was part of what made that so clear

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after a weekend of DOMS, another workout today! and now I'm less sore, because magic (this is how muscles work, which used to surprise me but now I'm used to it) stokkked 💪❤️‍🔥

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

at the gym doing face pulls, deadlifts, bench presses, kettlebell swings 💪🏋️ haven't worked out at a gym since 2013 when I used the office gym at twitter more of a bodyweight guy, but it feels good to be here

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Replying to Chana @ChanaMessinger ·

Ngl I could potentially make seriously good use of a personal assistant but I'd need one to handle the hiring process

@ChanaMessinger

Conor @Conaw ·

Request for Startups: EA service particularly tailored to ADHD clients, with varying tiers so you can get help even when you aren’t loaded Ive needed an assistant for YEARS and at many many times been in position where I could afford one, but always been too distracted to hire

quoting @eade_bengard: A lot of the tasks ADHD people struggle with aren’t that hard to do. They’re often admin tasks they relentlessly procrastinate on. And they’d be better off hiring a remote assistant on a low hour retainer to complete them instead of taking amphetamines.

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Retweeted @yashkaf

This is not a story about millennials/zoomers, it's a story about fake jobs. If you're not clearly and demonstrably superior a…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

transmission

@the_wilderless reception

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I think one of the things that makes me most stressed/anxious is that I believe I possess a superior understanding of effective long term mass persuasion and I’m nervous about how to use it and who to share it with / teach it to

@visakanv encrypt it so that it can only be decrypted by people who deeply value collective flourishing

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean that’s where I ended up too!

@visakanv yeah, I'm sort of restating what you're already doing but it seemed like a good phrasing so I posted it

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I do have an “if I were a girl” board too, but when I look at these pics I don’t think “I wish that were me”. I kind of think “that’s me!” through a certain reflection/inversion. That’s my sister-self, my twin, we are the same. I learn from these looks, sharpen my own in relation

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@visakanv damn, first image hits me

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Retweeted @visakanv

what if there’s a multiplayer solution to this single-player problem

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

what if there’s a multiplayer solution to this single-player problem

quoting @DRMacIver: The thing blocking your progression is probably that you need to learn when to stop doing the thing you're very good at and do something else instead.

@visakanv yup, this is what I'm working on, and yup it requires this:

David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@visakanv Unfortunately in context the thing they need to get better at doing is playing multiplayer games. x.com/DRMacIver/stat…

quoting @DRMacIver: I see this a lot in the professional coaching stuff I do where I often find myself saying to people "Yes, I can see that you're very good at thinking like a programmer. Now stop doing that, it's not what the situation you're in needs."

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This is very cool—a transformational therapeutic modality based on starting with exploring the question "What does money mean to me?" Reminds me a bit of Core Transformation (and could go even further in that direction) youtube.com/watch?v=JJBls0…

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Replying to sev @PageSeverian ·

woman I fancy keeps telling me how "thoughtful" I am w or l

@PageSeverian w

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Replying to Chana @ChanaMessinger ·

@imperialauditor Transferwise?

@ChanaMessinger @imperialauditor yeah TW is great here's my referral link, if you want (gives us each a bonus) wise.com/invite/u/malco…

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@wildbuddhini @uthmanzi aggressive instincts and psychopathy seem pretty different also "free from all laws" doesn't mean "free from all social consequences like people knowing you're the sort of person who likes to shoot strangers if you can get away with it"

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@wildbuddhini I put "stay at home" but on a moment's thought that's just because you psyched me out by mentioning the weapon at all I would ofc go out and break a bunch of nonviolent laws that I think are bad or that are somehow blocking my self-expression

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot wow it's almost a fractal looks pretty similar on all 4 scales

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to the extent that an interpersonal communication protocol isn't able to bridge gaps to people who aren't using it, it's inadequate, and to the extent that it is, it's not a protocol

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa the challenge of self-discovery is uhh you might discover yourself

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@TasshinF I also wish this for you! (and me, and everyone)

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Replying to Hormeze 𐤄𐤅𐤓𐤌𐤉𐤆 @hormeze ·

Tungsten Zeppelin

@hormeze Graphite Zeppelin

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Retweeted @natural_hazard

I'm working on a "here's what I'm up to, if you're excited/interested here's how you might be able to interface with me…

Hmm... I could make a thing on complice.co for people to host a page like this... 😎❤️‍🔥🤝

Hazard @natural_hazard ·

I'm working on a "here's what I'm up to, if you're excited/interested here's how you might be able to interface with me on it" page Anyone know people who have done really solid, expressive, effective versions of this?

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@maltybegray I found this one in a park this summer and uhh yeah welp here we go

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Replying to Luke Gibson @heylukegibson ·

Can’t have a metaverse without music!! 🎶🎵

quoting @Harmonix: We have some exciting news! https://t.co/HzgI0DX7Op https://t.co/rtdyLWK41A

@heylukegibson @BT has got you covered too!

BT @BT ·

My new album, #Metaversal, is officially out today on all streaming platforms. blackhole.lnk.to/metaversal First launched as a living piece of art and album software playback engine on the block chain - wrapped together with a cryptographic treasure hunt

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Replying to Kasper the Host (Khuyen) 👻 @GKhuyen ·

@Malcolm_Ocean SO EXCITING! MY FAV MODERN MONEY GURU IS COMING TO STOA 🤑 Seriously his work on The Source Principle is also really cool 😎

@GKhuyen Yeah I've read Work With Source and it's great (and talks a bit about the moneywork stuff)

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Replying to @gptbrooke

@gptbrooke you might find this useful:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

This is very cool—a transformational therapeutic modality based on starting with exploring the question "What does money mean to me?" Reminds me a bit of Core Transformation (and could go even further in that direction) youtube.com/watch?v=JJBls0…

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this is a really cool animation/illustration though I really don't like the frame here even if in some sense true

Urban Cycling Institute 🚲  @fietsprofessor ·

Every time someone says that 'making it harder to drive will need radical changes' show them this. Creating current car dependency was only possible with a massive, decade-long and destructive effort to erase the city as we knew it. (via instagram.com/tv/CWbOT1PN1Lg/)

[video]

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @visakanv Yeah totally. Maybe something like "who deeply value collective flourishing, and understand attractors and how to support omni-win games and how to slow down to play long games" (I'm sure there's still some pieces missing)

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Replying to J0eCool @CountJ0ecool ·

@HephaistosF @Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv Necessary but not sufficient Though getting people to value the right thing is the hard part, the remainder is skill of execution, and that's much easier to teach

@CountJ0ecool @HephaistosF @visakanv Getting people to value the right thing is sort of only the hard part if you include all of the fractal scales. Someone might value collective flourishing and think that you get there by calling out bad dynamics, which afaict usually reinforces bad dynamics, Moloch-style.

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@CountJ0ecool @HephaistosF @visakanv And as far as I can tell most people at least value collective flourishing insofar as we're all in this together. Even sociopaths will die if the planet gets rekt. So it actually is mostly about generating ever-deeper understanding of actual leverage points for creating win-wins

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @CountJ0ecool @visakanv how is this different from spiral-dynamics-Red / pre-Christian morality? it sounds about the same to me, tho self-awarely perverse as I understand it (in part from ContraPoints' Envy video) in that context there wasn't even "evil" as distinct from "bad" in the first place

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF @CountJ0ecool @visakanv this is helpful; was a piece I was missing wrt the NNTD stuff

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

most people frame their problems in ways that are designed to perpetuate those problems, when you see this you can't unsee it (but you can kind of pretend you don't see it and distract yourself from it). some of it is deliberate, most of it isn't

@visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

people usually frame challenging situations in ways that reinforce those challenges twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Thread · How naming a problem can reinforce it · 1 of 4 tweets

Retweeted @visakanv

P: we are all suffering in relationships. 1. Ask “whose task is this?” Calmly delineate up to what point your own tasks go, a…

continuing to really appreciate my Dream Mashups concept & post, and @visakanv for repeatedly encouraging me to write it up and publish it 🚀 malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…

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@m_altcroft or nerd out about a topic that's unrelated to the boxes you're getting put in QT some news item you don't really understand, about supply chains or some shit, and just start rambling about what questions & curiosities you have

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@m_altcroft or make your avatar weird—I felt very liberated when I made this switch! then I rebalanced to my current purple face because the trippy one was creeping some people out lol

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

weird to feel how differently I experience myself composing a tweet now with this avatar ↙️🌌     instead of this one 😁↘️ that I've had for 3+ years

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Thread · January Goal-Crafting Intensive workshops now open

Every January me & my crew run some 5h workshops to help people think strategically about their life and unstick emotional blocks towards consistent flow ❤️‍🔥🪂 And tickets are now available for the next ones! Sign up here (or keep reading to learn more) complice.co/event/plan2022…

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Each workshop includes: 📺📄 high-quality content (videos & exercises) 🍅👥 structured co-working on goal-setting & planning 💬💡 live coaching—untangle blindspots 💪💞 find a partner for an ongoing weekly check-in ...and more!

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It's self-structured & Pay What You Want, which means that as long as you show up, it's hard for the event to not be worth it! I've personally been burned by paying $$$ for a course then finding out it's not a good fit, or not managing to actually complete it.

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To learn more, you can check out the site here: complice.co/event/plan2022… Or I've got a ton of threads about it from past years, so you can get loads more context from this meta-thread:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Goal-Crafting Intensive meta-thread! Thread to be ongoingly updated with all of the twitter threads I write related to our epic online GCI workshops we've run for years, around New Year's & at other times. complice.co/event/gci?tw=m…

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Retweeted @mesolude

like bread, todo lists get stale if you leave them out for too long I like to throw them away and start fresh every week or…

Replying to Danielle Fong 🔆 @DanielleFong ·

tell me about something you hate 😈

@DanielleFong I just made this tweet a few minutes ago about how I hate when I get sales'd into buying courses even though they weren't what I needed. "Money back if you complete the course & get no value" is no good if it ends up being clear the course isn't for me.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

It's self-structured & Pay What You Want, which means that as long as you show up, it's hard for the event to not be worth it! I've personally been burned by paying $$$ for a course then finding out it's not a good fit, or not managing to actually complete it.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

Ugh I’ve already forgotten a couple of details of the viral tweet in all this buildup. Fuck! It was something like, “it’s extremely frustrating when <people> do <perfectly reasonable thing> when I <treat them horribly>”. Amazing scissor and also amazing memebait, stunning stuff

@visakanv I find for dreams I've gotta jot down the key bits ASAP before I add any context whatsoever improvised a great song in a dream and the band came in perfectly woke up and remembered maybe half of it, but I got it recorded and might eventually metabolize it into something

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I feel my chest expand every time I see someone reach a new life milestone thanks to complice.co 💗🥲 twitter.com/BrunoArine/sta…

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Replying to @taalumot

@taalumot @chercher_ai you might really dig Scale by Geoffrey West, which points at how this is surprisingly true for larger creatures as well, due to fractal scaling of space-filling curves if you know how fast a mammal's heart beats, you can estimate roughly how long it lives and how big it is!

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Replying to Austen Allred @Austen ·

I’m continually in awe of Tesla’s PR strategy

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@Austen @visakanv I figure you'd want to see this if you somehow hadn't

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when doing partswork, differentiation is important, but you can do that without unblending ie it doesn't have to be in third-person, just gotta be clear who "I" is you can say eg - "I'm a part of Malcolm who's suspicious" - "I'm a part who thinks this decision is a big mistake"

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF huh, could be bad in some contexts. I could also imagine it being bad if you started doing this all the time, instead of ever just sort of nebulously speaking for the whole

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Not all tautologies are meaningful, but the ones that are certainly are.

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Replying to Grant Dever 🌄 @grantadever ·

plagiarize my tweets all you like i dont care. they belong to the people

@grantadever almost just copy pasted this & tweeted it verbatim but I realized that I actually care too much about sourcing* to stand by that statement *from a "tracking memetic lineage" perspective, more than "who gets credit?" +1 to "they belong to the people" tho

Ari Nielsen @anielsen108 ·

Once someone replies to one of my tweets, I don’t own the tweet anymore, it has escaped me, and I no longer have the right to shoot it dead.

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Replying to Beau Haan @beauhaan ·

@juvoni 🎯 x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

@beauhaan @juvoni I've also been exploring "you're not a community if you don't eat together" and I don't think that's a fully adequate statement but it points at something important

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

What your child needs may not be what you needed. What they need isn’t known yet, because your child hasn’t been born yet…

Replying to Jason Snyder @cognazor ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @rhyscass ☝️I consider Malcom an OG in this space

@cognazor @rhyscass

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Replying to Kasper the Host (Khuyen) 👻 @GKhuyen ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Did you order the book? Any review? I tried to get a hard copy in Vietnam but couldn't ship. Looking forward to @tomnixon next edition.

@GKhuyen @tomnixon Yeah I read it, it was great. can buy ebook too

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@maltybegray yeah I would make them interesting if they weren't lol so

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

How did Circling and Authentic Relating get it so wrong?

@AskYatharth

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

to the extent that an interpersonal communication protocol isn't able to bridge gaps to people who aren't using it, it's inadequate, and to the extent that it is, it's not a protocol

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot @grantadever seemed likely haha

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Replying to Von Drake Institute Of Social Pathology @StupendousGrav1 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Teach a man to tautologize, and he'll have been taught to tautologize.

@StupendousGrav1 tautology accepted

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Retweeted @Plinz

@LauraDeming The first cell never died. It’s alive in all of us. Every cell on earth split off from the first. All life on earth…

@Bryan61151406 @Austen I tested this last year and found that you can allow it to receive from an unsigned address, and Calibre can use any "from" address, so a group of friends can just have friendgroup@ourfriendgroup.name as an address they all accept books from, then use Calibre to send

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Replying to Mikey Anderson 🌎 @mikeyanderson ·

I'm working on my first new company in 6 years. I've played a bunch of different roles at growing companies: CEO, CMO, Head of Growth, Sales/Marketing/Analytics, Coach. My favorite role is coach. I'm a teacher, a coach, and a networker. Excited for this next season.

@mikeyanderson Yeah you sound like you're getting ready to have a lot of fun 🙃

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Replying to ayooluwa @uthmanzi ·

Reported 👍🏾

@uthmanzi 🤣🤣

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omg this is such a cute video of living control systems calibrating! ...I would have started with water tho ngl cc @IAPCT @EvadeHullu (via @uthmanzi) twitter.com/amazonBeau/sta…

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Replying to @taalumot

@taalumot @realpotofgreed yeah this seems right maybe thought as a sense, mind as sense organ and the particular sense it makes is the constructed one, rather than the received one or something

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@brother_nin oooh cool

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

choosing violence for no reason but taxation is only theft if the assumption is that the taxes are misused. done properly tax should be spent in a way that is more efficacious for your well-being than you could have spent on your own. I know this is inconceivable to most

@visakanv here's my thread on this—pretty similar to yours, as usual

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"would there still be taxes in eutopia?" I've been pondering this question sometimes, in light of the famous quote: "’Tis impossible to be sure of any thing but Death and Taxes" My hunch is "yes in some sense but they'd look very different." twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @AdeleDeweyLopez

i've noticed that a lot of times when i'm being particularly annoying/obnoxious/insensitive/defensive, it's because i…

Replying to Adele Dewey-Lopez @AdeleDeweyLopez ·

so i spent a lot of time receiving feedback from people suggesting i be less e.g. defensive, and i didn't know how to apply it bc i didn't feel like i was being defensive at all

@AdeleDeweyLopez yeah super vital to completely separate what bothers other people about what I'm doing and what's going on for me they *may* have some insight about my internal state but also they might completely not thread related to this

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

And yet... blindspot feedback is hard. It usually creates tangles for one or both parties involved, and little net benefit. A thread of some of my realizations about this over the last year. twitter.com/atlaz_chugged/…

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👀👎👍

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Replying to Daniel Vassallo @dvassallo ·

Don’t do today what you can put off until tomorrow. By tomorrow you might realize it’s no longer necessary.

@dvassallo Few realize this! It's a great pithy articulation of the importance of aliveness-based motivation, one of the 4 tenets of my productivity philosophy: complice.co/philosophy

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Retweeted @LordChisholm

Implicaricature

Replying to Daniel Vassallo @dvassallo ·

Don’t do today what you can put off until tomorrow. By tomorrow you might realize it’s no longer necessary.

@dvassallo this requires developing comfort with actually throwing out stale tasks rather than hoarding them which is hard for some people, although I think the metaphor itself can help

Marie @mesolude ·

like bread, todo lists get stale if you leave them out for too long I like to throw them away and start fresh every week or so, this keeps them synced up to my actual priorities of the present

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Replying to shb @himbodhisattva ·

@xuenay @sashachapin I support you getting into weights! very roughly, if you can do a movement X times, you are getting Y out of it: <8: strength 8-20: muscle growth >20: cardio hard to find ways to do bodyweight exercises that are heavy enough you can only do them 5 times (except pull ups)

@himbodhisattva @xuenay @sashachapin if you *do* want to do bodyweight stuff, I've gotten a lot out of the Kratos Project workout, which has clever ways to be <8 even if you're strong

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@rasoolr @DougMcGuff I've been doing a bit of Drew Baye's Kratos workout, which is bodyweight slow high intensity to failure training. He indicated could do 3/week, though as I've been getting into it lately I've been doing more like 1/week and that feels fine.

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@himbodhisattva @xuenay @sashachapin I guess I should qualify "got a lot out of it". I enjoyed it a lot and I had some amount of progression; I didn't do it consistently for more than a couple months at a time.

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me: I don't have a cashed answer @SarahAMcManus: payday loans for answers! me: that's actually a great startup idea 🤑 S: how's that work? you give someone an answer... 🤔 me: ...then they have to give you back a better one! 😎

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Replying to Aaron @anesmithbeck ·

Try being in a group with four friends on MDMA without taking MDMA and see how you feel

quoting @anesmithbeck: Would be curious to see research on "contact high". Pretty clear that it's real, at least for some subset of people.

@anesmithbeck I did exactly this my first year at burning man they were great very snuggly and talkative everyone who saw us thought I was also on MDMA because I am also very snuggly and talkative

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Retweeted @QiaochuYuan

turns out you can keep someone stuck having a problem forever by denying them permission to have it and conversely, you c…

Replying to Matt Jugo @Jeanvaljean689 ·

One key to remaining deeply happy with life is to not let anyone ever shame you for any part of who you are

@Jeanvaljean689 I've recently been getting intrigued (via @HFreinacht) how there's both negative shame and positive shame, ie negative shame is about weakness and positive shame is about greatness −shame is internalized contempt +shame is internalized envy

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@Jeanvaljean689 this is part of why @QiaochuYuan's thread was so cool—he spoke up despite the potential for people envying him, and it allowed other people to see their own +shame and loosen its grip a bit

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

i don’t remember if i told you guys this but the medium dose of acid thread led directly to one of my mutuals paying off their student loans, getting their first job, and escaping their abusive parents, which is probably the best thing that’s ever happened because of my tweets

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@Jeanvaljean689 @QiaochuYuan we need a better term for this thing I've called "positive shame" above; Hanzi borrows Nietzsche's "sklavenmoral" but this is extremely unwieldy I shortened to sklamo in my notes but that's still pretty damn weird for an english word #neologizing

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

If you see any errors in the rules, please bring it to my attention, as I may have missed it. If I do not see it within 2 days of being posted, I assume it is not an error. (this is a metaphor for internal dynamics of cached responses -R)

@RomeoStevens76 whoa this is intriguing/inspirational, re metaphor for caching

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Retweeted @visakanv

while reading Alan Watts and thinking about my own stuff, it suddenly occurred in me that once you learn to delight in your m…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

what is the impulse to try and keep things the same? Homeostatic impulse? Homeostative?

@visakanv vishnu

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Replying to rob hardy @ungatedlife ·

@KyleBowe4 @m_ashcroft I love the unlimited scholarship model. All you have to do is email me sharing why the course is important for your growth, and I'll either discount it or give it to you. In two months, one person has asked.

@ungatedcreative @KyleBowe4 @m_ashcroft yeah I pretty much do the same with complice.co eminently sane if you've got a zero-marginal cost offering and you believe that

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

people want to contribute

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me: some people are employed... some people are deployed... what about just ployed? @SarahAMcManus: that's when someone inveigles you into some sort of heist or something me:

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What are you knot-doing?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you know that thing where you spend a lot of time NOT doing something? like you can't actively do anything else (spontaneously nor decisively) because you're supposed to be doing the thing, but you're also not doing the thing because of some conflict/resistance

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@karmacustodian

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

What if search engines were good tho? There would be completely different search pages for 🧐 "locate known resource/info that definitely exists" 🤔 "find IF well-sourced answer to factual question exists" 🤠 "get overview of domain" ➕❓ Completely different priorities.

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@MasterTimBlais > The idea we've evolved out of [wisdom teeth]... where does this fit with darwinian evolution? It doesn't. Survival of the fittest is death of the weakest. Unless you go around killing people whose wisdom teeth come in, it ain't gonna change. And you'd have to kill a lot of ppl.

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Replying to Dr. Dad, PhD 🔄🔼◀️🔽▶️ @GarrettPetersen ·

What's a reasonable % of your monthly income to put into crypto?

@GarrettPetersen Depends on various factors. I put about 10%, dollar-cost averaged. It's nice to not have to think about it too much.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

what are some songs that feel open-ended? interpret as you will

@AskYatharth I've created one that always starts the same way but after 3-4 minutes turns into improv that has spiralled off in dozens of directions depending on my mood and the scene. It's called Playing 5-to-9

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Name a cool thing and a not-so-cool thing that all your in-person friends know but your video-call-only friends won't til they meet you in person. I'll start: 😎 I give infamously good hugs 😅 I sometimes have to clear my throat a lot

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More songs like Our Dark Garden by @BT plz 🥺 I'd describe it as soft & ambient but with a bit of rhythm and a giant swell rather than just a drone. Repetitive & simple but it also develops & layers. I don't know any other track like this! youtube.com/watch?v=wwcI9q…

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(The part where it's 13 minutes long is pretty vital too. Bare minimum 6 minutes to even be in the running for similar, probably 9+ minutes)

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Retweeted @whatisemerging

In his new essay for Emerge Joe Ross asks: "Where are the We archetypes that are similar to the personal ones? Where mi…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

Outer wilds is nice, cuz it’s like, what if a solar system were basically walkable

[video]

@the_wilderless That's such a good way to put it! 😊 (@LordChisholm introduced me to it and after initial delight flying the rocket I was kinda frustrated because I wanted a more satisfying quick cycle of doing shit, but I'm curious to approach it in a more meandering way)

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@monkeregulator @ChanaMessinger 😅

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"unconflicted" & "disidentifying" are two neologisms in my latest blog post

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"spellcheck"... 🧐 you mean "neologism highlighter"?

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

What question are you really hoping somebody asks you so that you can recommend a book to them, and what's the book?

@DRMacIver ❓ "What are coercion & noncoercion on a structural (or neurological) level?" 📖 Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control

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Replying to @ndwpdx

@ndwpdx To be clear, I'm not claiming to have invented "unconflicted"... ...just that my dictionary didn't think it existed and I had to add it. Looks like it goes back to the 1930s.

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...I tried putting on Moby's Long Ambients and they're not even close.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean YES

@AskYatharth here's 3500 words on the subject ❤️‍🔥 some of which were originally yours 😊 malcolmocean.com/2021/11/knot-d…

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I'm writing right now—come join me? complice.co/room/writing

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

“I have looked personal hell in the eye and though . . . what if I automate this?”

Retweeted @vgr

This is the only poll I've ever done for which you can argue that there is no need for an "other" or "don't know what this is" typ…

@visakanv bump on this—I propose in somewhat under 72h, ie monday eve my time, midday tues your time

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

them: nobody can do what you're suggesting me: well what if they first do A, B, C, D them: nobody does all of that me: ah you're not actually... you don't actually care about what is possible, you're just giving me your 1-sigma heuristics them: nobody says 1-sigma heuristics

@visakanv what's 1-sigma heuristics?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@mauve_sky what do you mean by taking notes? like literally write them down mid-conversation?

@visakanv @mauve_sky I do this a lot and it's great I use #tosay and #toask in my convo notes, and I have roam style them colorful so they're easy to spot in context one of my favorite things about having conversations via computer rather than in person is that it's not weird to do a lot of this

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

(spinoff) generally speaking it's been interesting to note how much time and effort people expend into complaining, sometimes very creatively, instead of doing what is strategically optimal for themselves. ofc this then leads us to investigate what they're actually optimizing for

quoting @leebeattie: I’m not sure who needs to hear this but in the time it’s taken you to Tweet how annoying you find PRs & to ridicule the pitch from someone who is most probably a junior working from their bedroom, you could’ve just emailed back “not interested”. Not a joke, just a fact.

@visakanv this 👇 but also sometimes people are really bad at articulating the core of what's going on

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

hot take re complaining: it is how people affirm their values and the reality & legitimacy of their own experience

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@wildbuddhini yeah makes sense I have most of these traits, with a bit less of the danger/hostility vibe I like the self-discovering & revealing work you're doing :)

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Replying to @NonMurkyConsqnc

@NonMurkyConsqnc WandaVision

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Replying to Gorm @metaphorician ·

@gptbrooke We should worship a future biological integration of the entire biosphere into existence. Call it "the sun-basking Ouroboros", because it'll be a material self-digestive system fueled by sunlight. And it can ponder the universe until the sun goes out.

@metaphorician @gptbrooke hot

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@embryosophy @tasshinfogleman and as your inhibitions relax, so do we all feel a little more encouraged and ready to play along

@RichDecibels @embryosophy @tasshinfogleman yeah, I have a feel there are a lot of nonlinear tipping points that are in the process of tipping over, on a lot of different fronts

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Replying to Trevor Bedford @trvrb ·

You can see the striking accumulation of mutations in the S1 domain of the spike protein just by plotting S1 mutations against time and coloring by clade (nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/af…). Omicron viruses bear many more S1 mutations than previously circulating variants. 7/16

@trvrb thoughts on whether this is likely zoonotic?

Joshua Gans @joshgans ·

I’m going to continue to claim it but I can’t imagine this many mutations happened through just purely human incubation. Surely another zoonotic event.

quoting @trvrb: You can see the striking accumulation of mutations in the S1 domain of the spike protein just by plotting S1 mutations against time and coloring by clade (https://t.co/OZC2Sgvb7v). Omicron viruses bear many more S1 mutations than previously circulating variants. 7/16 https://t.co

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again this morning:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm writing right now—come join me? complice.co/room/writing

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I MUST SAY, MY STRANGEST WRITING ADVICE IS TO EXPERIMENT WITH WRITING IN ALL CAPS. WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?? I DONT KNOW!!! BUT IT WORKS FOR SOME REASON!!! I THINK IT HAS A WAY OF CUTTING THRU FLUFFY BULLSHIT!!! REPLY IN ALLCAPS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF FOOL!!

@visakanv FUCK YEAH ALL CAPS HOW CAN I NUANCE IN ALL CAPPS? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? HMM YES THIS DEFINITELY FEELS DIFFERENT

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Replying to Vidya — Freelance Writer & NoCoder ✨ @learnwithvidya ·

@visakanv YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT I THINK I LOVE SCREAMING IN REPLIES (?)

@learnwithvidya @visakanv YOU GUYS ARE GREAT KEEP IT UP

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Retweeted @thetracebrady

life is too short to live on someone else’s terms but before we can live on our own terms, we must create, define, and…

Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean oh hey I realized today I think PCT is related to the Aristotelian view of causality at least as restricted to mammals or whatever: it’s a classic Aristotelian move to say causality is unintelligible if you focus on effects without seeing purposes

@meekaale Oh really? The main thing I know about Aristotelianism is that Korzybski didn't like it and defined one of his main frameworks as "non-Aristotelian" so I would have assumed it wouldn't be that compatible with cybernetics

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean IT IS SIMPLY VERY LOUD NUANCE!

@visakanv SOMETIMES NUANCE MUST BE LOUD IN ORDER TO NOT BE CONFUSED WITH NON-NUANCE

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Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689

@visakanv I mean srsly what is the history of humanity other than a series of handover protocols

Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Every time I use @LumaHQ I experience the kind of joy I rarely get from using software It's just so well and thoughtfully designed It's Eventbrite if it were good tho @Malcolm_Ocean

@m_ashcroft @LumaHQ Oh yeah? Say more!

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𝐼𝒻 𝓌𝑒 𝓉𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓈𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒶 𝒻𝑜𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓀𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝑜𝒻 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒 𝒶 𝓉𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓋𝑜𝒾𝒸𝑒, 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝒻 𝓌𝑒 𝒹𝒾𝒶𝓁𝑜𝑔𝓊𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝒶𝓃𝑜𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝒻𝑜𝓃𝓉, 𝓌𝑒 𝓂𝒶𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝓃𝑒𝓌 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈...

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I MUST SAY, MY STRANGEST WRITING ADVICE IS TO EXPERIMENT WITH WRITING IN ALL CAPS. WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?? I DONT KNOW!!! BUT IT WORKS FOR SOME REASON!!! I THINK IT HAS A WAY OF CUTTING THRU FLUFFY BULLSHIT!!! REPLY IN ALLCAPS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF FOOL!!

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Latest blog post—I made an extended article out of "knot-doing", my name for the thing in the QT below, and described how the Perceptual Control Theory (PCT) model helps me make sense of and transcend these inner conflicts: malcolmocean.com/2021/11/knot-d…

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you know that thing where you spend a lot of time NOT doing something? like you can't actively do anything else (spontaneously nor decisively) because you're supposed to be doing the thing, but you're also not doing the thing because of some conflict/resistance

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Ridiculous idea I had for a song & music video, that I'm hoping someone will get inspired to make upon seeing my idea 😻 Even if you're not a music producer, you'll probably get a laugh out of the concept 😹

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@brother_nin @metaphorician @brother_nin was your original 😅 in relation to like, the reply not having the same font? I considered including a link to this site but these cursive letters already take up 2 characters (of 280) each so I didn't have space. lingojam.com/CursiveTextGen…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF 𝔂𝓮𝓪𝓱, 𝓾𝓷𝓲𝓬𝓸𝓭𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝔀𝓮𝓲𝓻𝓭𝓵𝔂 𝓶𝓲𝓼𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓪 𝓯𝓮𝔀 𝓴𝓮𝔂 𝓰𝓵𝔂𝓹𝓱𝓼 𝓯𝓸𝓻 𝓭𝓸𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝔀𝓮𝓵𝓵

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Have you been RTing a lot lately and want to write your own thing instead? Try digesting someone else's thing you like & remixing it. Can QT directly as a source, or put the original QT'd as a reply, or just leave uncited because that happens all the time unconsciously anyway!

RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@nickcammarata Another option if you like something is to contemplate it and then post your own version wrapped up in your own conceptual map. Probably all of us should do this more to gain more viewpoints and subsequently triangulate.

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Replying to Austen Allred @Austen ·

Request: Reply to this tweet with an article, podcast, or book that will break my brain when I read it. Something that will make me unable to view the world the same way as I do right now.

@Austen 📖 Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control Completely inverts both mainstream academic and common folk psychology models, and provides a simple yet powerful & precise explanation for how behavior works, with important implications for motivation & conflict.

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Invitation / challenge: go to your profile & scroll down til you find a tweet from someone else you RT'd, that expresses some sort of model or perspective (not just news or their life update) then try writing your own tweet that expresses the same model.

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Replying to Daemonic is Gendlinmaxxing 🤑 @daemonhugger ·

Imagining a universe where all carried shame and generational trauma has been resolved.

@daemonhugger This is my north star ✨ And it's going to be really wild as more & more people become able to imagine this and nudge the universe in that direction. (Well, along some dimensions. There are other elements to my vision.)

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Retweeted @daemonhugger

Starting to experience this more and more, though it’s hardly the norm. To the extent that I’ve been able to feel thing…

Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

Gonna attempt to sit and cultivate jhana 1 and shoot superbliss laser beams at people. Reply if you want one ⚡️

@nickcammarata hit me 🎯

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Retweeted @QiaochuYuan

possibly one of the more important posts you’ll ever read, from ⁦@Aella_Girl⁩ lesswrong.com/posts/bQ6zpf6b…

If anything were grounds for cancellation, this would top the list. Like, anything in the realm of "call someone's employer & get them fired" (tho this was surely a team effort) or "get people to boycott an organization". But probably an outrage mob isn't quite the way to do it.

Alec Karakatsanis @equalityAlec ·

THREAD: Yesterday, the New York Times published a headline it knew was false. The implications of this are dangerous for everyone who cares about an informed public. Here’s what happened:

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Replying to Aaron @anesmithbeck ·

What is the most psychoactive book you've ever read?

@anesmithbeck People ask this every now and then and it's always a PCT book Behavior: The Control of Perception or Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@michael_nielsen Making Sense of Behavior: The Meaning of Control is an amazing dense clear layperson summary of Perceptual Control Theory sadly out of print, but you might be able to find a copy somewhere

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Retweeted @m_ashcroft

The male urge, upon finding a t shirt that actually fits, to buy nine of them in different colours

Retweeted @ungatedcreative

Went to one of these last year, and it was great. Will be doing another in early January!

Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

it is my birthday tomorrow. you can say nice things about me here if you like. recall I need constant words of appreciation due to a crippling condition that developed in childhood. thanks for your understanding.

@RichDecibels You're great and have good ideas and frameworks and are playing a vital role in scaling conscious community globally & locally

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@RichDecibels You're also satisfyingly irreverent in a way that doesn't just feel showy or contrarian but feels like you just being playful

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Post a photo of you at 21 twitter.com/taalumot/statu…

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@SeishinWrites wow this is great

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Retweeted @JvNixon

Context dominates the value of information. It’s the book which you read in your moment of weakness, in your minds’ preparedn…

Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

I was also just getting my tattoos around that time!

@SarahAMcManus that's a super cool shirt! do you still have it?

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Replying to Mike Plotz (59/100 morning walks) @hyponymous ·

Post a photo of you at 21 (I couldn't find 21, so here's a few months shy)

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Post a photo of you at 21 https://t.co/N3fupshirX

@hyponymous baller

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania @LordChisholm the world needs you

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot @mattdiamond emoji were EXPLICITLY never supposed to have skin tones nor genders (it's not simpsons yellow it's *smiley* yellow... until you put hair & shit on them) good: 🤠 bad: 👮👮‍♂️👮‍♀️ rant: (+ a video describing the history of how Apple fucked this all up)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Watched this at 1.75x speed. Was kinda helpful. I'm pissed at Apple for violating the unicode guidelines & making white emoji. Also pissed at whoever thought the solution was to add other races rather than acknowledge that the categories of unicode are not the place for that. twitter.com/jenniferdaniel…

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Retweeted @visakanv

I periodically encounter people who think Self-QTing is antisocial, crudely self-promotional, etc For me, QTs are bidirectio…

"you can't just stick 'but good tho' after everything" "..." "don't." "...what if 'but good tho' after everything, BUT GOOD THO?!" 🤩 (with @LordChisholm)

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tweeting this passage about freedom & fear in honor of @visakanv being on the last stretch of editing his 2nd book

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Replying to Imp @imperialauditor ·

it's incredibly hard to just have and remember ambiguous experiences without letting them fall into a single narrative how do?

@imperialauditor tell multiple completely incommensurate narratives

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Replying to Matjaž Leonardis @MatjazLeonardis ·

Why isn't there more poetry on Twitter? The medium should be a perfect fit.

@MatjazLeonardis @BellaRudd1 hook us up

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@WeftOfSoul The most intense become the best at calmness at will.

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Replying to ayooluwa @uthmanzi ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv Jesus fucking christ that is beautiful. Where is it from?

@uthmanzi @visakanv @HFreinacht's The Nordic Ideology A fascinating & weird book, that contains lots of stuff that's not beautiful in *this* particular way, although it all fits together somehow into a coherent whole. Might also start with Book1: The Listening Society. (Some of it I disagree with)

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Retweeted @tasshinfogleman

the more I do expanded awareness style practice, the more I think they should teach it in Driver's Ed when people are…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

i wonder if i could commission an artist specifically to draw me in a derpy way. like, 10 bucks for a $10 effort, ykwim? derpy on purpose

@visakanv it's possible that this particular style of derp has actually been lost now because there's no longer a scene for it

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hail mary full of grace great chieftan o the puddin race

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build bridgers

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean this has so much of the spirit of coherence empathy in it, and i think it’s the singularly most important thing about the dream mashup concept

@AskYatharth yeah, at some point I'll probably write up a whole post on "become an invalid target for projection" but for now I can just say "read Dream Mashups and if you don't get it read it again (and ask me any questions you have)"

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

Imagine if we were on acid all the time, but just had no idea. That there was such a thing as normal perception; we made d…

Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Hmmmm... maybe with some other stuff that's still in storage? It IS cool, and also the fit was a little off

@SarahAMcManus ...would it fit me? 🥺🤩

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Retweeted @LordChisholm

For 9 years I've been mulling on a question @Morphenius put out; "what am I learning?" as a thing to ask in any situatio…

Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@Malcolm_Ocean you did a good job of seeing the parts of me that I want to be seen ☺️

@RichDecibels and with your reply,

Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@Malcolm_Ocean you did a good job of seeing the parts of me that I want to be seen ☺️

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Retweeted @thetracebrady

this will be my first workshop with malcolm & his crew but i have a feeling it won't be my last 🤔 hope to see you there…

Replying to tracebrady @thetracebrady ·

this will be my first workshop with malcolm & his crew but i have a feeling it won't be my last 🤔 hope to see you there! 🤓

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Every January me & my crew run some 5h workshops to help people think strategically about their life and unstick emotional blocks towards consistent flow ❤️‍🔥🪂 And tickets are now available for the next ones! Sign up here (or keep reading to learn more) https://t.co/ULwOgeBE8

@thetracebrady Fyeah dude! I could imagine you being a great volunteer coach for it too—can talk about that after you've attended. Most of our coaches have been to the workshop at least once (& we even ran a small private event last Feb so I and the other hosts could find out what it's like!)

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Replying to Matt Jugo @Jeanvaljean689 ·

Who invented the descriptor, "Strangely Earnest Twitter"? I feel like this might be your craftsmanship, @Malcolm_Ocean Is this your naming?

@Jeanvaljean689 nope, @HuanWin, but I've been responsible for popularizing it because it's my favorite name for the thing

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@me_on_the_web @pervexists69 main name I've heard of & used for it is "strangely earnest Twitter", coined by @HuanWin last year twitter.com/HuanWin/status…

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Replying to Matt Jugo @Jeanvaljean689 ·

Omfg A song sits marinating in your heart for years; You don't know exactly why it means so much to you, Then suddenly you hear the song one day as if for the first time, and your eyes fill with tears Wtf is THAT Strangely earnest Twitter, I know you all can feel me, on this

@Jeanvaljean689 It's this:

Jeremy Nixon - Automating AI Research @JvNixon ·

Context dominates the value of information. It’s the book which you read in your moment of weakness, in your minds’ preparedness for a new way of thinking or seeing, that strikes you as the most impactful hit on your life.

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Replying to Matt Jugo @Jeanvaljean689 ·

Omfg A song sits marinating in your heart for years; You don't know exactly why it means so much to you, Then suddenly you hear the song one day as if for the first time, and your eyes fill with tears Wtf is THAT Strangely earnest Twitter, I know you all can feel me, on this

@Jeanvaljean689 I got this with Landsailor by @ViennaTeng when after grooving to it a bunch of times it suddenly HIT ME what the song is about and I just started sobbing. youtube.com/watch?v=Hm4BAE…

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@wildbuddhini me being interesting was never in question (from my vantage point) I would sooner not exist at all

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Replying to Oliver Sauter @olivers_tools ·

@visakanv Very related. Visa, you've seen this already but for those who haven't: x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: @visakanv Herbie Hancock describing a similar realization he had early on playing with Miles Davis, and "right in the middle of Miles Davis' solo, I played the wrong chord. Sounded like a big mistake! ...and Miles paused for a second... then he played some notes that made my chor

@BlackForestBoi @visakanv People going back and adding links to 3yo threads of Visa's. V good.

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Replying to Elena Lake 🌿 @relic_radiation ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @DRMacIver Ai, "control" feels alive for me rn. I found a shadow part of myself that wants to control people I love - & most of me doesn't want to do that, but hoooo boy this part does. Think this book might give it some other strategies, or at least clarify what is vs. isn't "control"?

@relic_radiation @DRMacIver Yes! It'll also clarify how to make interpersonal control into more of a fun workable dance rather than a frustrating power struggle. I mean, it will if you can translate from theory into practice. If it's not clear from MSOB, my Non Naive Trust Dance writing might help ❤️‍🔥

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Replying to Jay Mutzafi @JayMutzafi ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Not so simple, human.

@JayMutzafi amplehuman

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Retweeted @joyurge

Deep take on how to set @CompliceGoals intentions: youtube.com/watch?v=aLn6Ue… Close all browser tabs (literally & metaphorically…

It would be cool for someone to organize the responses to these surveys by the particular directions in which they're psychoactive. (Might involve replying to people to ask them about how the book changed them, if they didn't already say!) Who wants to do this? 🙋‍♀️

Aaron @anesmithbeck ·

What is the most psychoactive book you've ever read?

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this one filters more narrowly to just "this year"

Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

What's the most psychoactive #book you read this year? (Psychoactive = "changes brain function and results in alterations in perception, mood, consciousness, cognition, or behavior.")

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fuck okay at this point I think it's just a matter of time before I get on tiktok

Debbie Mia @ Likely a Nap @TheDebbieMia ·

The internet is magic sometimes.

[video]

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How it started; how it's going featuring @gptbrooke (one example I'm using for why MultiQTs need to exist and what they could look like)

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what else do we need MultiQT for?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How it started; how it's going featuring @gptbrooke (one example I'm using for why MultiQTs need to exist and what they could look like)

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Replying to Rob Haisfield @RobertHaisfield ·

Ugh if only I could QT two tweets at the same time so I could link threads together outside of the threads themselves.

@RobertHaisfield YES. (thanks for the tag @visakanv)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How it started; how it's going featuring @gptbrooke (one example I'm using for why MultiQTs need to exist and what they could look like)

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Original tweets, because this feature doesn't exist so the above is just a screenshot

brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

@HuanWin Right?! I felt the same way when I saw your page! I only joined Twitter this week, but every single day keeps getting better and better. Every day-I've met more people that inspire me to want to be better, just through how awesome/earnest they are! Every day, feels like home.

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and 2:

brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

Ingroup US convention planning begins now, but I promise you I won't get anywhere if there's not enough enthusiasm for it However, if there is, I promise you I will make it happen

quoting @gptbrooke: I'm thinking something indoors, more like a convention than a festival? With booths for people to sign up to talk about their projects or even just themselves, and with speakers scheduled Maybe get an ingroup band or two to play somewhere in the evenings, have speed dating runs

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

I've been a bit blocked on Twitter because I've been wanting to avoid talking about 'awareness stuff' too much but I think the correct way is just to lean into it and post earnestly and prolifically about awareness anyway

@m_ashcroft I am not aware enough of awareness yet, which means there's still lots more work to do!

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Replying to brooke bowman @gptbrooke ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Oh my goodness, this is so special 😍 Thank youuuu 😭

@gptbrooke ❤️‍🔥😊 I was working on a blog post about how twitter needs MultiQT and I got distracted onto twitter and came across that tweet of yours via researching this answer for @Jeanvaljean689 of who came up with "strangely earnest twitter" and I was like "welp"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Jeanvaljean689 nope, @HuanWin, but I've been responsible for popularizing it because it's my favorite name for the thing twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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the enthusiastic "more!" responses have me wondering if there's an equivalent thing for me, that I'm worried about "too much"ing about but where people would actually be happy to have me talking more about it

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

I've been a bit blocked on Twitter because I've been wanting to avoid talking about 'awareness stuff' too much but I think the correct way is just to lean into it and post earnestly and prolifically about awareness anyway

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I guess I had a similar experience last year when I asked if people were annoyed by my GCI marketing efforts and only one person was annoyed! (only 23 responses but still)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the people have spoken! there will be more threads about GCI! this is actually quite encouraging to read, as I'd been genuinely concerned people might be getting annoyed to the one person who answered "wish it wasn't on my TL", well, I see you ♥️

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(huh, now I'm suddenly curious if this is part of @m_ashcroft's worry—maybe it was easier for him to tweet about the AT stuff before he had a course, because it was more clearly just a passion thing, whereas now he's worried about coming off as salesy)

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Speaking of which, hey @m_ashcroft we were talking about doing a cross-pollination jam call where we talk about how Expanded Awareness and Complice/Goal-Crafting can go well together.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

TL;DR of cross-pollination thing is to have a bunch of people running online courses etc have recorded conversations with each other about how their systems/practices/etc interrelate and support each other, then put those convos in the courses. high-bandwidth hyperlink twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Also fwiw there are more Goal-Crafting Intensives coming up and the tickets are available now, so if you want to get some help strategizing for your new year or you just want to see how I write a non-salesy sales page, you can check that out here: complice.co/event/plan2022…

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“Words can be communicative only between those who share similar experiences.” — Alan Watts

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Thread · Seeing everyone's persona as 'doing a bit' · 3 of 4 tweets

I've recently been finding it a lot easier to be constantly laughing at the cosmic joke when I think of people's ego or persona as "them doing a bit" everyone is doing such a brilliant, perfect, performance of themselves! when you see it it's just ❤️‍🔥🤣😙👌

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without changing my meaning at all, I could also call it "God doing a bit" in this sense of God: Alan Watts: “To know that you are God is another way of saying that you feel completely one with this universe.” Ram Dass: “Treat everyone you meet as if they were God in drag.”

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(for those who don't know the idiom, "doing a bit" refers to comedy that has an air of seriousness over top)

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Replying to @abhayance

@abhayance this ^ reminded me of this, which prompted me to actually tweet it:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've recently been finding it a lot easier to be constantly laughing at the cosmic joke when I think of people's ego or persona as "them doing a bit" everyone is doing such a brilliant, perfect, performance of themselves! when you see it it's just ❤️‍🔥🤣😙👌

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Retweeted @deepfates

Are you committed to the bit?

Replying to 🎶ɔɥɐ○sdǝl ʇǝɯdlǝ🎶 @chaospel ·

really nice to see people independently coming to the understanding of pagliaccification

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: I've recently been finding it a lot easier to be constantly laughing at the cosmic joke when I think of people's ego or persona as "them doing a bit" everyone is doing such a brilliant, perfect, performance of themselves! when you see it it's just ❤️‍🔥🤣😙👌

@chaospel pagliaccification 🤣

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Retweeted @slatestarcodex

I prefer to think of it as the late pre-truth era.

hot take: autism is tripping (if the REBUS model says psychedelics are about relaxing priors, and other models posit that autism is about bottom-up processes being weighted higher... 🤔🤔🤔)

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

Imagine if we were on acid all the time, but just had no idea. That there was such a thing as normal perception; we made do. Now imagine we 𝘢𝘳𝘦 on acid all the time; in like an emotional dream mashup. I think we are. x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: What to do if you notice you’re dreaming? As anyone who’s tried to lucid dream can attest, noticing you’re dreaming is at least half the battle in the first place! Emotional untangling techniques like Bio-Emotive can make the move more accessible, internally AND culturally. htt

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Replying to Jason Snyder @cognazor ·

Feeling pretty blackpilled the last few days, kind of down...I won't expand, except to say that I think the process of encountering a robust form of optimism is that of a continual reintegration of harsh realities

@cognazor appreciating your work on the blacklight pill 🙏

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm serious about this. I think there's a possibility in pill-space that reveals the darkness of reality while also making things fluoresce brilliantly. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Edward Saperia @edsaperia ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Quite dangerous - kills empathy - it means you imagine that hiding under their personalities they’re just the same as you…

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@edsaperia Oh huh, I don't get that at all. I could never do their bit, because I'm me. So I know they've got something else going on. From my perspective, there is no "under their personalities"; God is the whole—you, me, everything—not some underlying something.

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@edsaperia related to this view: “We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe.” — Alan Watts

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean my own understanding of Aristotle is a sketchy inference from certain sources; my Aristotle a symbol for a tendency of thought that seems resonant with perceptual control theory in interesting ways, which would probably be more "post-Aristotelian"

@meekaale fascinating man it is hard to spread memes well

Eliezer Yudkowsky ⏹️ @ESYudkowsky ·

Law of Viral Inaccuracy: There are more ways to misunderstand a thing than to understand it correctly, so the most viral form is probably inside the erroneous set. Your most widely known idea will be distorted. The story about you that the most people have heard will be false.

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Thread · Why ethical models should disambiguate psychopaths from everyone else · 1 of 7 tweets