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Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres

38 tweets · May 2019 · 229 likes · 15 retweets · read on Twitter

Meta-thread of various threads (mostly mine) about Iain McGilchrist's brain hemisphere model!

(Note: there's lots of myths & bs about the brain hemispheres, but this new model seems pretty solid and better than a naive model that just says "all we know is that these functions are on the left and these are on the right")

Here's a thread that's deliberately designed to be a general summary & introduction:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Tweet-thread for an introduction to Iain McGilchrist's @divided_brain model about the profound difference between how each hemisphere attends to the world! (Note: there's lots of bs about 🧠 hemispheres; this new model seems pretty solid and better than a naive idk🤷 model)

Here's my first, where I intro'd the concept briefly and noted that a bunch of learning challenges get confusing because we try to teach our left hemisphere how to do things our right hemisphere already knows. Instead, LH needs to learn to let RH work.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

After watching this engaging convo between JP & IM about the latter's work on the @divided_brain, I have the sense that my top personal learning priority is shifting my internal locus to my right hemisphere. Suggestions for how to train this? youtube.com/watch?v=xtf4FD…

McGilchrist's model helped me understand why I have often tended to feel anger instead of grief, even though it feels better to feel the grief.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm valuing, in this moment, that even as I feel a deepened sense of understanding here, I also feel aware of how much I still don't know. (This too is a hemispheres thing.) twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

@jonnym1ller posted a highlighted version of my 2017 ribbonfarm article about not-just-asking questions, which prompted me to reflect on the relationship between questions and the brain hemispheres

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@jonnym1ller @ribbonfarm Mmm, the first thing that comes to mind as I read your highlighted version is around this not-knowing piece. Definitely feels related to Iain McGilchrist's model of the brain hemispheres and how the left can't handle not-knowing while the right naturally does.

Here's a few tweets in response to @fortelabs saying that various things aren't things. There are no things!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@fortelabs @garybasin The thingness of reality is constructed in our minds (specifically, McGilchrist notes, in our left hemispheres) but that doesn't mean reality isn't real! Just that concepts aren't reality—which... isn't news, but experiencing the diff first-hand matters🤯 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

A short thread about language:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"...we have to be constantly vigilant to undermine language's attempt to undermine our understanding." — Iain McGilchrist (paraphrasing Heidigger) on p150 of The Master and his Emissary @divided_brain

Oh and of course this one today that basically concludes that tantric non-dual awareness enlightenment is basically synonymous with getting your left hemisphere to let your right hemisphere run the show.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

1/ Reading Spectrum of Ecstasy (thanks @QiaochuYuan & @Meaningness!) ...and the parallels between it and Iain McGilchrist's @divided_brain model are... like 100%? If it weren't for the fact that IM doesn't use the term "non-dual", these pages could literally from IM's book.

@QiaochuYuan wrote a thread about different fictional magic concepts, that divide along hemispherical lines! (Also his thread links back to this meta-thread at the end, so we've got a nice loop going 🔄)

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

Rereading the Young Wizards series and thinking about sorting fictional magic systems by how left hemisphere / right hemisphere they are. LH: explicit laws, fixed effects, magic a kind of physics / engineering. RH: implicit, unpredictable, magic an art, a living thing.

Me reflecting on another model of two ways of thinking ("aboutness" and "withness") that map almost perfectly onto the left & right hemispheres' unique worlds:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

One model I've found myself dancing with over the past few years is called More than Cool Reason: "Withness-thinking or "systemic thinking" and "thinking *about* systems" Withness and aboutness are two very different modes of thinking! PDF: lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Mail/xmcam…

Grokking the relationship between change & stasis. Cried a couple happy tears while writing this one:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The Only Constant Is Change (a thread) Today I finally grasped the significance of this, after the reading & thinking I've been doing around Iain McGilchrist's @divided_brain hemisphere model 🧠 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

Most other popular brain models blatantly ignore the hemisphere axis despite its obvious importance, so they have to add epicycles to correct the confused assumption.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Pitch for why McGilchrist's @divided_brain model matters: Lateralization is not just in humans but in mice & birds & fish, so there's gotta be SOMETHING going on there. If you try to understand the rest of the brain while ignoring hemispheres, you're going to be confused!

@Timber_22 makes a direct connection between Tilopa's ancient meditation advice and the left hemisphere. (Link is to mid-convo... scroll up in that thread for a lot of other cool stuff)

Crooked Timbre @Timber_22 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @meditationstuff @noididntreadit @jondubin Tilopa says: Don’t recall. Don’t imagine. Don’t think. Don’t examine. Don’t control. These are all injunctions aimed at the left hemisphere

@Timber_22 Long thread integrating 3+ other twitter conversations, connecting the hemispheres with the triune brain model (intellectual, emotional, physical) and talking about false dichotomies and the value of having models anyway.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Aha, just saw this again, after @DougTataryn's BioEmotive retreat, and my perspective has shifted a bit. There's definitely something real to the triune brain model. Details can be debated but the prefrontal cortex does different stuff than the hippocampus & amygdala! 🧠 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

@Timber_22 An high-level initial exploration of the deep relevance of the brain hemispheres to: • current AI systems • prospects for AGI • AI Safety

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Reading this post by @JanelleCShane and I'm like "oh man, our current ai bots are basically left hemispheres". > "When confused, it tends not to admit it" aiweirdness.com/post/175110257…

@Timber_22 Didn't intend for this thread to talk about hemispheres, but that's where it ended up!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

For some time, I've noticed an odd trigger of nihilistic thoughts: running out of something. Often toilet paper or toothpaste, sometimes peanut butter. It seems to produce "oh my fucking god how many times am I going to have to buy more of this!" 😳🙄😑☠️ twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

@Timber_22 Some excerpts on gesture. Second tweet is the real gem here, talking about how usually when people misspeak, their gesture is still accurate 😮

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Interesting brain-hemisphere relations to gesture. Expressive gestures, revealing inner emotional states, tend to originate in the right hemisphere. Instrumental gestures, consciously engaged for a purpose, tend to originate in the left hemisphere.

@Timber_22 Buddhism! Of my threads, this one is maybe the clearest/simplest justification for why RH is Master & LH is Emissary (McGilchrist's book is titled The Master and his Emissary, a reference to a story from Nietzsche)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

McGilchrist's brain hemisphere model 🧠         + buddhist concept of impermanence ⚱️ thread! (CC @_awbery_, @Meaningness)

@Timber_22 Short thread about both/and & either/or, faith & doubt.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"The point is simply that, if there is to be any life and movement at all, the attitude of faith must be basic—the final and fundamental attitude—and the attitude of doubt secondary and subordinate." twitter.com/JakeOrthwein/s…

@nosilverv doesn't explicitly talk about brain hemispheres here, but what he's saying is a very clear explanation of how the left hemisphere can't solve enlightenment the way it ordinarily solves problems.

Guy @nosilverv ·

Why 'If only you stopped wanting to be enlightened, you would be enlightened' is actually a really sensible, if hard to understand, proposition. Straddle on boys, this is gonna be epic.

🌶️ thread where I deconstruct the whole concept of Kegan stages, using McGilchrist's model. This idea has been bomping around my brain for a year... finally wrote it up decently:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Hot niche take: Kegan's stages are universal only because everyone is universally afflicted with a dysfunction related to left hemisphere fixation. In a culture where this wasn't so, there would still be developmental stages, but they'd be nearly unrecognizable as Kegan stages. twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…

A common thing that people try to map the brain hemispheres onto is masculinity & femininity, and some such mappings would be confusing & misleading, but others are remarkably resonant! Particularly the khandro-pawo dance from Vajrayana Buddhism:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Had the same thought when I read this this morning! (ie Apr 9th, when I drafted most of thread) I'd heard left side of the body as feminine & right side as masculine, and since reading McGilchrist I no longer think this is spurious! (Flip L↔R for hemispheres bc contralateral) t.co/Mn14IZXCef

Apparently summarizing a very short book still produces a very long thread. This is the best introduction on twitter so far though, as far as I know!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Intro thread to Iain McGilchrist's work, based on his mini-book Ways of Attending: How our divided brain constructs the world. "Attention is not just receptive, but actively creative of the world we inhabit. How we attend makes all the difference to the world we experience."

A 3-tweet thread that connects McGilchrist's model to a vital distinction between • "individualism" (atomistic; fragmented; un-whole) • "individuation" (the necessity of any system maintaining both boundary with environment & negentropic openness)

Scott Preston @fourfoldvision ·

The ethos of Being, and the ethos of Having are pretty clearly issues of the two attentions of the divided brain (McGilchrist's "master" and "emissary" modes). Being says "all for one and one for all" and Having says "selfishness is a virtue" (Ayn Rand). The mind polarises.

Mostly this thread is about David Bohm's book On Dialogue, but it's very relevant in general, and partway through I point out that he's saying something really similar to McGilchrist, regarding thought that re-presents rather than attends to presence.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

> On the whole, you could say that if you are defending your opinions, you are not serious. — David Bohm (page 48 of On Dialogue) This quote, I think, completely upends classic notions of what sincere, reality-oriented conversation looks like.

More [[hemisphere dharma]], this time zooming in on tanha:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🤣🤣🤣 mood. Okay so this actually illustrates something important about "Tanha", the Pali word often translated as "desire" or attachment", in Buddhist contexts, but perhaps better as "grasping". The explosion below is the shattering of a grasped image about a specific person. twitter.com/anonymiserly/s…

@Jeanvaljean689 tweeted some reflections on the counter-intuitive meanings of the word "counter-intuitive" 🙃 then summoned me to comment re McGilchrist. So this link is to halfway down; scroll up for context of what I'm replying to:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner Mmm, a few thoughts. I do think the word "intuitive" is playing multiple roles here. Someone once described Complice as "counter-intuitive until you learn how to use it then very intuitive", which... 🤔🤯 "intuitive" in this sense might map more onto System 1 than a hemisphere

@Jeanvaljean689 @m_ashcroft excitedly linking brain hemispheres to Alexander Technique this is gonna be big guys McGilchrist didn't really have any pragmatic advice, & "drawing on the right side of the brain" doesn't generalize enough

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

“It is the right frontal cortex that is responsible for inhibiting one’s immediate response, and hence for flexibility and set-shifting; as well as the power of inhibiting immediate response to environmental stimuli.” (The Master and His Emissary). Some thoughts…

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@Jeanvaljean689 @m_ashcroft Dharma and neuroscience. Also this book is potentially a very good candidate for "how to shift locus to RH", and meanwhile the thread raises the question of wtf that even means.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Yoooo @m_ashcroft, Loch Kelly's book "The Way of Effortless Mindfulness" is an AT handbook disguised as dharma. It features many little "glimpse" exercises for accessing an expanded nondual awareness state. Here's the first one:

Short thread by @m_ashcroft talking about connections between Alexander Technique and brain hemispheres. Expanding awareness & flow!

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

The more I read about the hemispheric model of the brain, the more difficult I find it to talk or even think about Alexander Technique *without* referencing the different ways the left and right hemispheres attend to the world. It’s an exciting and I think novel line of inquiry.

Long thread weaving McGilchrist with Christopher Alexander and architecture more generally, plus IFS and dignity-supportive user interfaces.

Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

I read books in a strange non-linear slow way, they're like bottles of old fine whisky that I keep around and sniff occasionally, developing my palate over the years, too lazy and distracted for actual "reading", but— I feel like explaining why I'm drawn to McGilchrist's stuff

quoting @Meaningness: @xuenay @drossbucket @m_ashcroft Thanks! This was my impression also. There’s some half-baked neurobabble and then generic Romanticism from 1872/1972 and some handwaving connecting them and I don’t get why this is inspiring to many people who I respect ??

some quick connections while listening to a podcast:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

loving concept of "modal confusion": 1. try to solve being mode with having mode (objectification, eg trying to get love by *having* sex) 2. try to solve having mode with being mode (spiritual bypassing = "too heavenly to be any earthly good") (@vervaeke_john➔@JimRuttShow pt2)

an illustration I made to explain the difference between “i do what i want gosh” and “i am submitted to the immutable will of the divine”

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

twitter.com/wholebodypraye…

thread on secure attachment as key for right hemisphere development

Josh Kelly @KoshuaJellyfish ·

Many people think of adult attachment as a simple typology system that informs your relationship style, kind of like Love Languages. But modern attachment researchers like Allan Schore (2017) and Dan Siegel (2001) believe it is foundational to many aspects of development… 🧵

I'm probably one of the main people this thread says it's subtweet-critiquing, but I figured it worth including this in the meta-thread anyway because @aphercotropist has good thoughts and it's worth having dissenting voices not just hype.

Arbutus Tree @aphercotropist ·

the more twitter mcgilchrist I read, the more convinced I am that "LH" and "RH" as used are vague abstractions that have nothing to do with the neuroanatomy they are named after

@aphercotropist Short thread pointing out that modern app-based dating is fucked because of modal confusion: developing relationships is about opening to something larger, not about assessing based on flat details.

Jakeup @myhandle ·

rereading The Master and his Emissary, I realized that everything I wrote about dating problems sums up to: dating is fucked because people are trying to date in a LEFT-BRAINED way (wonder what @Malcolm_Ocean and other McGilchrist fans will think of this)

quoting @myhandle: the root cause of basically all dating problems is people thinking about themselves, from the inside out: how dating feels for them, what they want, how it fits their story, how they were hurt, how they need to change and improve to get dates, what scares them, etc.

@aphercotropist another thread connecting vajrayana buddhism and hemispheres! along with other stuff about the origin of self-consciousness — how DID we become identified with our mental contents? when and why and how did that happen?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

reflections on this Liberating Perception article, aiming to just kind of think out loud about how I interpret it (which is kind of funny given that it's in part about non-interpretive response 😂) vajrayananow.com/liberating-per…