Replying to @FioraAeterna
@FioraAeterna attempt to represent a both/and position while trying desperately not to just be equivocating
July 2020
Retweeted @vgr
Grifts are undertheorized, and too often conflated with long cons, scams, frauds and other more blatant soft crimes. Lemme offer a…
Yesssss someone is copying the unique & powerful online workshop format we use for the Goal-Crafting Intensives, and using it for something else! (This is a training on Project Management)
@vgr Found myself thinking Steven Pinker as a grifter when I read this, in how he's seemingly cherry-picked charts to claim that ~"everything is clearly getting better" opendemocracy.net/en/transformat…
Thread · Why "safe space" norms create blame and double binds · 4 of 5 tweets
@maybegray @mauve_sky any place where people are encouraged (either explicitly or just by incentives) to reason "I'm uncomfortable → somebody is doing something wrong" are doomed to be shitshows. This has two forms, inward & outward blame. "safe spaces" probably usually create the outward version
@maybegray @mauve_sky Everybody is traumatized and of course they will be triggered by things that have very little to do with what's happening. That's to be expected and needs to be held with love—so does the inclination to blame, which also comes from cultural trauma!
@maybegray @mauve_sky So yeah, "safe space" style norms say "it's your job to never trigger me", which isn't gonna work. People are already in the dream mashups, so no matter how hard you control your behavior, you can't *always* prevent them from projecting past abuses onto you! (& vice versa)
@maybegray @mauve_sky There can also be a kind of oscillation here, where to the extent that someone knows their discomfort isn't fully about the other person, if you feel obligated to change to accommodate them, they may end up avoiding sharing their experience.
@mauve_sky @maybegray Love that fucking book. Yes, very appropriate recommendation here.
Retweeted @TheAriDee
Normalize saying “I don’t know enough about this to form an opinion or accurately express it at this time.”
Thread · Developing a felt sense for scales at the keyboard · 6 of 7 tweets
1yr after having a 🎹 keyboard next to my desk listening to the first few chapters of Victor Wooten's Music Lesson, I've developed a WAY closer relationship with musical scales. I confidently hit a note, & can often just FEEL where in the scale it fits.
Just now, listening to Inner Peace by @ClozeeOfficial, from her 2016 Shambhala set, and I'm like fuckyeah and just whack a C. Hmmm yeah, wants to jam up to the D, and that feels like home. So I noodle on down the D minor scale. But this isn't theory: it's Dm, not "Dm"
I had a bit of fluency with this implicit scale feel on the guitar, but being able to see all the notes on the keyboard is making a huge difference, as is having it next to my desk and reach-out-able-to-play-with-one-hand-while-reading vs 🎸 in corner of room.
Other day was improv'ing on top of Coldplay's Up&Up , which has a funky thing where it's in G but during the chorus it has an F, so went hard on that F during other chords, and fucked around with a Bb. Realized after that's the blue note in Gmaj Blues 🔵
But I wasn't thinking about a "note" in a "scale", I just knew that that Bb sounded dirty as fuck. It was so raunchy I felt like I was violating a sexual taboo. It felt like I was getting away with a crime. It was so right, and so wrong. Fucking amazing 👅
Anyway, it was all a bit intense, so as the song wrapped up I did a bit of aftercare and gently played the straight B and the F# that usually hangs out with G. Told @SarahAMcManus afterwards it was kind of like ruffling the cat's hair the wrong way, then setting it right. 😽
Thread · Inviting a design jam on tools oriented toward groups · 2 of 4 tweets
Want to jam with me about designs for what complice.co might look like if it were oriented towards groups instead of primarily individuals? Tomorrow 👇
Tagging everybody on my Deep Design twitter list—jam with me tomorrow? @DavidCrandall_W @jborichevskiy @thisisneer @VitalPixel @azlenelza @tobyshorin @aaronzlewis @lehrjulian @yoshikischmitz @Conaw @tombielecki @andy_matuschak @tomcritchlow @elzr @amyhoy
@edelwax @utotranslucence I've been collecting people on a list called Deep Design, and I just invited them all 🚀
@Marco_Piani @DanielleFong undertweetment
The only types of -ist I support (or aspire to be) are ones like: - guitarist - pianist - vocalist - artist - flautist - violinist
Retweeted @BillHanage
Tony Fauci says the US death toll is ‘going to be very disturbing’, even when you consider the 120k+ lives lost already. He…
Classic thread by @Conaw, while he was designing @RoamResearch: a digital system for externalizing & organizing your thoughts—with a new metaphor 🤯 Top of thread: (The tweet in the thread that's most about metaphor design👇) twitter.com/Conaw/status/1…
Super important to note what level of abstraction @rjs' functions are on. It's not about transforming... • input data to output data • input information to output information • input action to output results It's about *situations*. Meaning.
Oh man I'm checking out @Basecamp/@rjs book Shape Up, and there's so much resonance here with my design philosophy for @CompliceGoals 🤩 ↙️ Shape Up: "Bets, not Backlogs" (basecamp.com/shapeup/2.1-ch…) Complice philosophy: "aliveness (vs exhaustiveness)" ↘️ (complice.co/philosophy)
Replying to @pasql
@pasql @thinko found myself curious what you think of this, @diviacaroline
Retweeted @AskYatharth
OpenAI made an AI with “curiosity.” 🤖🔎 Guess what. It got addicted 🤦♀️. . . to TV📺
@rjgoodin Ah! Yes, and physicist, chemist, etc.
🎶 So tell me: why do all these kings keeping dropping their crowns? 👑 🎶 I look up to you and I don't think you need to look down 🎶 You're not the mayor, but you're totally running the town
@DanielleFong poetry
@collinofzion @donmexlar Ah, gentlemen... you know why we are here... We've not much time... and quite a problem here... (I played Caiaphas in JCS in high school)
@maybegray @visakanv @selentelechia @mauve_sky
Replying to @amyhoy
@amyhoy Ha! Would be glad to inspire stuff for your app! I have waaaaay more ideas than I know what to do with and I'd love to see them incorporated into something else! Was stoked this morning while researching this to discover deep resonance with Basecamp:
@bryankam maybe but by default it's McGilchrist saying a bunch of stuff I've already read in his books, and then answering a bunch of questions that are already answered in his books 🤷♀️
👆 this is what happens, apparently, when a Malcolm subconscious is trying to digest reading up on the "king" meme yesterday after seeing this image for the second time
@Ramtin_N @Mappletons @michaelerard Cool, have added it to my metaphor design page on roam! Would love to hear 1 or 2 insights you got from reading it, or illustrative stories 😀
Thread · Inviting a design jam on tools oriented toward groups · 2 of 4 tweets
This was cool, and also has me feeling inspired to host my own design smaller-group jams over the coming weeks & months. Anyone here have something they'd particularly like to explore? I'm sure I can come up with something if not. Tagging also @edsaperia who I met today!
(Tagging everybody again because of how thread notifications work) @DavidCrandall_W @jborichevskiy @thisisneer @VitalPixel @azlenelza @tobyshorin @aaronzlewis @lehrjulian @yoshikischmitz @Conaw @tombielecki @andy_matuschak @tomcritchlow @elzr @amyhoy
@rothosphere @andy_matuschak Mm! What Joel said!
Replying to @jimbomorrison
@jimbomorrison @nickhowland @onesub_ Hear, hear! Resonates with my recent thoughts around designing complice.co
@jimbomorrison @nickhowland @onesub_ also the classic:
Thread · Why "safe space" norms create blame and double binds · 1 of 5 tweets
@maybegray @mauve_sky Oh another thing I was thinking about this morning is that this sort of approach inherently creates double binds. If everyone (or even some subset of people) is entitled to feel comfortable, then they're going to have conflicting demands about others' behavior.
Retweeted @primalpoly
Presenting without comment. t.co/PdPD1RCucy
"People don't know what they mean when they talk." - "When they hear a sentence, they hear a ghost of a thought." — @DeLongMusic youtube.com/watch?v=UNVX2C…
@AskYatharth your use of "systems thinking" is having a terminology collision here with something that's the opposite of what you seem to mean. you maybe want "systematic" thinking systems thinking, aka general systems theory, is very holistic
@AskYatharth Also McGilchrist's brain hemisphere model, which I mentioned last night, is very relevant to the distinction you're talking about here:
Retweeted @julianweisser
How do you decide what to work on without reaching consensus for a shared vision of a hard-to-predict future? @NASA str…
Retweeted @commandodev
Just read this mind blowing piece of work on "Neural Annealing" opentheory.net/2019/11/neural… There are some profound, incredib…
Thread that talks the response-ability involved in having money to do something with, and the natural attractor towards principle-agent problems caused by rich people wanting their money to multiple without them needing to think too hard.
Amazing, Twitter served me this #Twiptych at the very top of my feed. FT @rothosphere @TaylorPearsonMe @collinofzion
@meditationstuff This is your best sales pitch so far 👆👆👆🔥🔥🔥 (Whether for your protocol or for this 👇)
@meditationstuff It's way better than what the other guys are offering. Seriously. And it's the kind of thing that, if true, the customer can potentially verify for themselves with relatively little investment (at least, that seems implied by what you're saying, anyway)
@AdeleDeweyLopez really appreciating this perspective, & not because I already agree with it! I've been in the "I think cancel culture is dramatically exacerbating certain double binds, which will tend to make us collectively crazy" camp and maybe you're saying such concern is part of the trap?
Retweeted @AdeleDeweyLopez
the intent of "cancel culture" is to distract everyone from the Real Issues anyone trying to cancel something or worr…
😮🤯 Invitation: consider a short quote you like, and try to find the longer quote of which it is part, if any. What is its context? How does that affect the meaning? Which do you prefer? (Or, if you've done this in the past, you can post that)
Just had the experience of going to YT to listen to a favorite 1h DJ set of mine, & it was blocked because copyritez. I was like "fuck why didn't I download it sooner?" then I was like "wait maybe I still can!" changed "youtube" in url to "youtubepp" and voila! mp3 available🕴️♂️
A: "I'm too hot" 🥵 B: "why not spray water on yourself to cool off?" 🚿 A: "no, spraying water would be like sweating, which I associate with hotness, so that would obvs make things worse" 🙄 the level of thinking represented by A here is roughly the level of most discourse atm
Retweeted @SarahAMcManus
...if that's Sutra, is this Tantra? twitter.com/t3dy/status/12…
@SarahAMcManus Sarah pointed out to me last night that it would probably make sense to link to @_awbery_ & @jaredjanes' Stoa event happening tomorrow 👇
@emareaf @_awbery_ @Meaningness "tech mindset & meditation" in this context made me think of the title of @_awbery_'s interview on @DeconstructingU with @OortCloudAtlas: "Vajrayana, Engineering, and Jiu Jitsu" deconstructingyourself.com/rindzin-pamo.h…
Replying to @ponekarl
@ponekarl This is fucking quality content.
@Aella_Girl I answered "no" and was surprised by the yesses and then promptly realized I really didn't know what "marginalization" meant to Aella or anybody answering. I think this poll is revealing *something* but I'm not sure what the something is.
@davidklaing I'll simmer on this and let you know what I come up with. On a meta-level:
Replying to @CoriolisMoon
@CoriolisMoon @folding_laundry Yeah, and "social justice" wouldn't even be the thing to call it from my perspective. It would be less about "justice" and more about working on the generators of social ills etc ↔ strengthening our capacity to satisfyingly have challenging conversations on all scales.
Retweeted @Thinkwert
A Code I will be kind I will not thirst I will not sneer I will not be bitter I will rt judiciously I will like all good…
@LauraDeming @RoamResearch @kanjun Nope.
@DRMacIver @ChasingMyself I could say almost exactly what David said here but probably it means very different stuff to each of us.
@TheOrangeAlt I don't know what I was trying to accomplish by using "copyritez" but it was not a casual decision! Maybe something kind of like the Voldy thing... I'd like to claim it was something more meta like "call attention to how we relate to the concept thus/via @TheOrangeAlt thread"😂
the holism is more than the sum of the arts
@Conaw have you seen this plan? Strategic plot to run a presidential campaign with a sane leftish & sane rightish person, with @AndrewYang as a serious contender. I remember you being quite into Yang last year and figured you'd appreciate the strategy here.
Replying to @wizardofux
Something happened today that hasn't happened to me in years: I felt encouraged by some american political news! 🤯 Some people have been strategizing how to run a #Unity2020 presidential campaign oriented towards sane policy. Excellent 12min explainer: youtube.com/watch?v=ptrrDf…
Or if you'd rather read than watch a thing, here's 2020's version of the Federalist Papers. Or something, idk. I only know about the Federalist Papers from Hamilton. Maybe it's more like the Declaration of Independence. medium.com/@ArticlesOfUni…
I can see why they went with the flag sunrise image but that buries the lede a bit from my perspective, which is this chart showing how the majority of Americans aren't particularly stoked about either party! This is hard to see when things are framed in left vs right binary.
Seriously, go check this out. This has the chance to make a real difference. They've planned for lots of contingencies, including multiple pathways to avoid having it split either side's vote.
@Conaw @juhopkallio @RoamResearch Related—the #Unity2020 ticket:
Replying to @amyhoy
@amyhoy Hm yeah, I don't know about planning details, or why it's so last minute (could be part of strategy to create time pressure, or maybe it just took til now to pull it together, idk)
Replying to @amyhoy
@amyhoy From my perspective, they're sincerely oriented to a better level of abstraction & leverage point than the specific policy details, which is the capacity for effective dialogue even when there is serious difference in perspective. Without that, no policy can achieve its goal.
Retweeted @yoshikischmitz
I recently encountered this idea that exercising spatial memory and orientation might be crucial to our brain's health(…
Just blocked someone whose thinking I respect in many dimensions, and who was replying to my tweets saying they're "meaningless words". I value disagreement. I also value "I don't understand what you're saying, can you say it differently?" This is not that. This is contempt.
Some people have pointed out to me there may be issues with the deadlines of when certain numbers of votes are needed to get on various state ballots. I recall reading or hearing a reference to a plan to deal with that but I've lost it and need to go to bed.
@meditationstuff I really dunno what "sex-crazy" means here: - has weird emotional schemas around sex? yes - has more of those than most people? probably not - "crazy for sex" as in very high libido (though I figure you probably would have just said as much if that's what you meant)
Retweeted @Mappletons
A spectrum of digital gardening. I like to think of it as the happy middle between chaos streams and full-scale cultivate…
Retweeted @andy_matuschak
I love the way this inverts the typical angle on productivity. "Motivation is a skill"… but not in a making-bullet-list…
@andy_matuschak I think @reasonisfun & @m_ashcroft will both dig this ^ It's also making me wonder how @CompliceGoals could be better for nurturing this cultivation. Already better than some things but lots of missing pieces...
Replying to @magghu
Retweeted @meditationstuff
One can preserve knowledge and practice only by surpassing it. (because it must be remade-to-fit for each new, conting…
@csageland I feel you 🤗 There's something broadly in the #GameB / systems thinking / complexity science space... would be curious to know if there's a way to point at that that's >2% of eg US population. Spiral Dynamics folks figure 1% of world population at tier 2... hm.
@meekaale Yeaaaaah I spent a long time feeling like people were giving Descartes a bad rap for focusing on "I think, therefore I am", which didn't seem to me as much about thinking but wondering. Later realized that, well
@AskYatharth My articulation wasn't adequate, but I'm trying to point at a very specific thing which I think is impervious to your defence: Where there are automatic systems in place to solve problems, people may associate the responses of those systems with the problem, & try to remove.
Replying to @magghu
@AskYatharth From Donella Meadows' Leverage Points essay (which is amazing—definitely on the Oceanic College curriculum) donellameadows.org/archives/lever…
@AskYatharth iow, it's not that A's argumentation is embarrassing, it's that A's perception of what's going on is confused, imprecise, and essentially... backwards. This thread captures part of why: when things are working, it's hard to see what keeps them working
Retweeted @Evolving_Ego
Partisan is considering opposing positions & paying attention only to the upsides of our position, & the downsides of the…
Nice #Twiptych someone else found 😜
Hey @nibrasibn how's this going? I set a reminder a few months ago to remind you of this tweet in case you'd gone back to your old ways. ❣️
@_awbery_ @magghu Hm. I don't think what I'm saying is about reconciliation. I think I mean more "BOTH/AND thinking can hold two (or more) things that appear to be so and appear to be incompatible, without trying to negate one of them to eliminate the paradox."
@_awbery_ @magghu So I guess they may not be reconcilable, but they may be! ...and both-and thinking creates the space to find out.
@AskYatharth I basically resonate with everything you say here. I still think there's lots of cases where the dynamic I was describing is happening (and I need to articulate it better) but I've adjusted some thing I previously would have had in my bin so that they're now in your bin here.
@AskYatharth Will also just tag that I think that the thing you describe is absolutely not unique to conservatives etc. Most of the woke virtue signalling & self-flagellation on the left is functioning in a similar way: condemning rather than actually transforming generator functions.
@QiaochuYuan Sort of like a contrapositive version of the movie Accepted where this guy doesn't get into college & can't break it to his parents so he invents a fake college and accidentally thousands of people apply and are automatically accepted & pay $$$$$ and he buys a mansion & runs it.
@m_ashcroft @readwiseio Haven't actually used the twitter integration much but I'm pretty stoked about it. Maybe once they have a full roam integration too...
@danlistensto I... half-agree with the causality, and very little with the sentiment (as I infer it). It's structurally understandable, *and* it's exacerbating the issues it's trying to solve. Cancel culture is an example of traumatic rage, ie #2 in this tweet 👇
Retweeted @selentelechia
@visakanv this thread is relevant 🧵👇
Retweeted @visakanv
yea... usually I think when people talk about capitalism "being" zero sum, they think about it as employees, who create value…
Replying to @joelgrus
@joelgrus @eigenrobot was gonna be my answer
@nickredmark @learning20201 confused by this, can you make a screencast of you using it?
"Books are friends, not food." 😂😂😂 (from @marginaliaclub's bio)
@reasonisfun It's simultaneously • 98% an incentive problem • 92% a problem of not understanding context & nebulosity (could maybe be fixed by grokking McGilchrist's work) • 85% an ontological problem (presuming you understand the basic terms of what you're studying)
@reasonisfun sum >100% because factors overdetermine current shitshow. No matter what else you do, if you don't solve the incentives you can only do 2% of good work. Fake #s. Submission of researchers to these awful incentives is a function of 2 & 3 above, and their own being traumatized.
@reasonisfun Current frameworks of psychology analyze pathology, not healthy functioning. However, even if you *were* to switch that, from my perspective there are approximately zero deeply-healthy humans to study, and our concepts of humans reflect this.
@reasonisfun So unless you've somehow managed to get deeper-than-your-own-capacity insight (perhaps spiritual, perhaps philosophical) into what could be possible for human beings, then the concepts you bring to your researcher would necessarily be at least somewhat limited by your own trauma.
@reasonisfun Plus of course inasmuch as the irrational memeplex (as David Deutsch puts it) is still actively functioning within science etc (which it totally is) it is held in place in large part by trauma, and so reasoning clearly rather than rationalizing also requires unlearning thusly.
Replying to @tahnok
@tahnok @eruraindil check out this quenyan keyboard! twitter.com/tahnok/status/…
Retweeted @powerbottomdad1
alright i'm officially cancelling cancel culture and starting the #boostgang. best beware my friends, if you're not ca…
Retweeted @Kasparov63
As someone with extensive personal experience with the suppression of debate by ideological conformity, I'm happy to see na…
Is it you, who needs to hear this? I've also really enjoyed when twitter recommends unclenching my gut and my butt too.
Retweeted @micahtredding
Computers have taken the wrong fork in the road, and may lead us into 10,000 years of darkness. This interview with Ala…
Thread · Alan Kay on how people misunderstand computing · 4 of 5 tweets
"People don’t understand what computing is about" —Alan Kay, one of the earliest inventors of mobile computing devices, who is still around and snarkily commenting on things:
Source: this interview on @FastCompany (@micahtredding's thread below is great 👇 and so is the whole article)
@Conaw the whole thing is relevant to @RoamResearch—particularly this excerpt: > In the old days, you would chastise people for reinventing the wheel. Now we beg, “Oh, please, please reinvent the wheel.”
Also, related to the whole "People don’t understand what computing is about" thing is this epic article by @frank_chimero which basically says "people don't understand what screens are for" frankchimero.com/blog/2013/what…
Retweeted @o_guest
Do my followers know there is a "sci-hub" for books? You can literally pirate whole ass books. Did you know this strange and u…
Replying to @auzdavenice
@auzdassertation @o_guest wow. awful. can you name a few examples so we can see how widespread the issue is?
Retweeted @cognazor
You can be against cancel culture AND be sensitive to power dynamics.
Retweeted @DRMacIver
Correlation doesn't imply causation, but equally importantly even when correlation and causation are both present, strength…
Retweeted @DRMacIver
A pattern I notice over and over again: you don't have to get all of a community's norms right from day one, but you do have…
I'm working on a model (2×2?) of different types of meta-norms that a community (whatever scale, whether group of friends or society) can have, and the sorts of attractors they imply: - stable or dynamic - functional or crazy-making - ? Hmu in the replies with examples or ideas.
@DRMacIver Yessssss. Very well put. (Also I call these meta-norms)
Thread · Alan Kay on how people misunderstand computing · 1 of 5 tweets
> If you want to live in the 21st century, you’d better embody it. You can’t teach it in a classroom. —AK riffing on Maria Montessori As Victor Wooten says "You can only teach yourself... I can teach you nothing. I can only *show* you things."
Haven't actively tweeted about #SobSquad in awhile, but if you're curious about learning how to self-facilitate emotional processing, this is one of the best techniques I'm aware of for it and they're running a workshop this Saturday! 5h—time to go deep. bioemotiveframework.com/shop/nedera101…
If you're sorta-curious + sorta-skeptical, check out this meta-thread by @QiaochuYuan and see what resonates there, to sense into whether this workshop might be a fit for you right now or not.
(Also if you're in Europe or some other timezone that doesn't work with this, apparently they're planning another workshop later this month that might work, so message @DougTataryn about it.)
Replying to @bdmarotta
@bdmarotta @QiaochuYuan just looked up theacrine and the hype is through the roof my "too good to be true"-meters are also blinking bright red 🔴⚫️🔴⚫️🔴
@QiaochuYuan I haven't had the chance to experiment with this since I don't have [caffeine→anxiety] in the 1st place, but I have a guess that some combination of (a particular kind of) meditation & short intense exercise shortly after taking the caffeine might embodiedly reframe the anxiety
Replying to @keendisregard
Retweeted @webdevMason
Yes, you don't *technically* have blood on your hands if you see to it that your enemies are starved rather than bludgeone…
@DanielleFong @BretWeinstein & @HeatherEHeying seem to be on top of some chunk of it with their DarkHorse Podcast. Have only watched a few clips so far, and am impressed by how relaxedly, straightforwardly, sincerely they're discussing various hot-button issues. youtube.com/watch?v=drF00F…
@DanielleFong @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying Also in general I've found Daniel Schmachtenberger has good stuff to say about why & how things are breaking down. Not sure where to recommend as a starting point, but I really liked this bit for its take on how to feed the devil his own tail. Not naive. youtube.com/watch?v=hKvVdG…
@DanielleFong @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying When I first saw the Moloch vid linked above, I wrote down like half a dozen different people I wanted to share it with for various reasons, so in some sense it's one of the most vital pieces I've seen in awhile. Also is during the pandemic but not tunnel-visioned on it.
@DanielleFong @BretWeinstein @HeatherEHeying Part of the challenge with finding intelligence sources is that most people (in the know) know much more than they say publicly, which both makes it hard to answer "who really knows what's going on?" and hard to get access to that info from them once you do know.
@RichDecibels plenty of juicy old tweets that aren't #TweetsAboutThisTrend maybe just pick a word you like and search for 2019 tweets about it from people you follow eg here's old tweets about `paradox`: twitter.com/search?q=until…
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia this jacket transforms into a tent
Retweeted @aaronzlewis
seems like every new media tech causes a crisis of identity/authenticity when the postal system first opened up to the Lo…
@JaredJanes @SarahAMcManus @QiaochuYuan Could start with plain caffeine pills to really narrow down what's happening.
@orpheaskk @Austen UW Systems Design Engineering actually, which had very little CS but the co-op program is lit. SYDE was unfortunately 2% systems, 3% design, 95% engineering 😕
@nosilverv @QiaochuYuan likewise
@dvarg321 @QiaochuYuan Yeah. A lot of traumatized patterns (eg narcissism) can end up appearing functionally sociopathic (lack of empathy) but are different and are healable. Not sure what the paths look like, but people are exploring.
@nibrasibn Makes sense! My life hasn't changed very much directly from lockdown since I already worked at home and did a fair bit of my socializing either online or with the ppl I live with. Did instantiate some better twitter habits tho. Now mostly 2pm-10pm only!
Link got changed. This is the one that works now: civilizationemerging.com/higher-dimensi…
@hunchandblunder Link got changed. This is the one that works now: civilizationemerging.com/higher-dimensi…
"The Wise Woman's Stone"
@ollybot_browne Hmu for design thoughts, bizmodel thoughts, or moral support. Sounds like you've thought this through pretty clearly and it might not take that long to make enough $ to quit the job, if you can find a few people to whom it's worth say $80/mo (which seems plausible as a platform)
@QiaochuYuan @solarsystern Compounding returns amirite
Oh great @GRIFTGURU, tell me: What is the secret to limitless energy?
Video worth watching, to see through her eyes. Something I almost didn't notice about this whole situation is that it's not just that kids these days have a childhood with a pandemic—they also don't have a childhood *without* a pandemic. t.co/9oDGjQtEhv
What's an insight you first had more than a year ago, that you've had a new level of or new perspective on sometime in the last year?
@micahtredding Hmm, I'm seeing this as something like, by naming things we can illuminate the relationships in the graph, which makes the structure more visible.
@micahtredding Wasn't intending to contradict at all! Was basically trying to paraphrase you 😊 Can see how my "hmm" read as disagreement without tone tho!
"When you attack something, often the opposite response happens... so we end up making a lot of the people we dislike *more* popular." System dynamics. "…not all disagreement is rooted in some nefarious intention, sometimes that's the way people learn." This vid is 🔥 twitter.com/DoubleDownNews…
@codexeditor @micahtredding @joyurge @SarahAMcManus this is relevant to multi-dimensional meaningmaking maps
@Morphenius Yeah! Also, whatever anyone says about McDs, if it's her favorite restaurant that means the whole deal, not just the food. Adult version is the difference between taking a date to fancy resto vs ordering fancy food from SkipTheDishes. Latter isn't bad, but they're not the same.
@Morphenius @anderssandberg Yeah I found a long article awhile back (not sure where now) that tried to create a system for answering these questions without timezones, and… …it ended up being isomorphic to timezones. This isn't it but it's a sorta similar rant: zachholman.com/talk/utc-is-en…
@QiaochuYuan @Morphenius @anderssandberg @qntm Yes! I remember the uncle in Australia. Now realizing google hooks me up if I search `timezone uncle australia reinvent` and scroll down far enough.
How much notice, minimum, would you need, to take a whole day for yourself? (wake til bed) (Assuming high priority to you but no emergency or obvious legible external thing you can point to to justify it. If you'd realistically lie or tell boss "family thing came up" then sure.)
Is your answer to the previous tweet different than it would have been with no pandemic? (eg harder to get babysitter, easier to get time off work, laid off, etc)
@m_ashcroft @CompliceGoals Hey, I was looking through list of Complice users going inactive today and saw your name there and thought I'd nuzzle this thread again.
@BitfolioO What's the new layer of insight this year?
@SSS_music Ooh nice. I've been thinking in some related directions about how a lot of feedback is intended to avoid repeating something catastrophic that has only yet happened in our imaginations. Would be curious to hear more about what you've learned here, or case studies / examples.
@ArturBuchhorn @lisatomic5 @QiaochuYuan Ugh, yeah, reminds me of this poll I'm running atm
@KHPavle Ah yeah, great point. Like there are some groups you can join simply by self-identifying, others (eg a company or a family) where the membrane is closed except in specific circumstances. And some in between; not everyone can join "Mt Everest summitters" but no application for it.
Welp, one upside of quarantine is we get this Tiny Desk Home Concert from 4 @jacobcolliers at once, which super impressively was shot in one take—including the banter between the Jacobs in between songs. This guy is next level. youtube.com/watch?v=mJR6XS…
@CountJ0ecool @spearofsolomon Hm yeah, I don't have a particularly strong take on whether this sort of thing is like metamathematics, where there is no meta-meta because it would be the same as meta, or something else. Though I think "systems" is being used in more than one way in your tweets, which muddles.
@CountJ0ecool @spearofsolomon like "systemic" and "systematic" aren't *opposites* but they are very very different maybe I'm not actually sure how you're using "system" here, or what you're trying to say. Maybe share some examples of "systems" and "metasystems" as you construe them?
@m_ashcroft @CompliceGoals Makes sense! If you have ideas for how Complice might be able to be helpful even during tough weeks, I'm all ears 👂👂👂
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What if 'OK Boomer' is not just a funny meme but a glimpse into the collective rage and terror of having so few worthy el…
@m_ashcroft @CompliceGoals seems like this tweet 👇 was intended as a reply here
@DanielleFong @Conaw has an eye for quality and is very bullish on ClojureScript
@visakanv without commenting on whether or not SG has gerrymandering issues (I have no info on that) it's worth noting that the First Past The Post means that if voters were evenly distributed, and constituencies were also even, 61% pop vote overall = 61% votes per area = 100% of seats
@visakanv I got nerdsniped & wrote a little script to demo this to myself, with just 10 ridings and 100-350 votes in each. At 61% pop vote, gets all PAP consistently. At 53% pop vote, 0-1 WP seats. At 51% pop vote, 2-4 WP seats. Just toy model, but illustrates how %s don't scale to seats
Yo @QiaochuYuan check this out. Seems like a really key piece of something, and also maybe... incomplete on its own. But seriously: a really key piece I haven't quite seen anywhere else. CC @Aryeh___, @Morphenius twitter.com/mrjasonowilson…
Relates to this thread of yours which I recently revisited and am continuing to really value:
@visakanv haha no, wasn't for you, was more like, felt like a fun idea to see if I could make a little monte carlo esque thing with fake votes, and then I was curious what the tipping points would actually be, and like, how even at 51% pop vote there's still way more of one party
@_awbery_ @magghu I also found myself, incidentally, re-reading your Living Contradictions article earlier today, and am really appreciation the distinction you're pointing at between meaningful paradox & self-undermining contradiction. vajrayananow.com/2019/04/15/liv…
Yeah, I'm watching it again and I'm loving how he says "deal with your emotions" because essentially he can see that the boy's holding back in some unexpressed way… …but by "deal with" he doesn't mean "get out of the way", he means "bring into the light" @QiaochuYuan
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tfw when you can't speak in the pure lyrics of experience twitter.com/hormeze/status…
I cannot figure out what genre @DirtyLoops is and I am so okay with this. This one song has elements of pop, funk, hard rock, jazz, R&B, gospel, crooner, swing, and a bass slapping so hard that the bass track solo'd could be its own song. #musicreco youtube.com/watch?v=rV9uCm…
Here's their cover of… uhh… *checks notes* …the Samsung ringtone. I don't have words. Check this shit out. youtube.com/watch?v=4-siHP…
0:00 epic drum fill 0:03 beautiful Boyz II Men style airy vocals 0:29 Mariah Carey vocal run 0:33 epic funk bassline over rock beat, plus singing 1:04 synth horns 1:12 record scratch 1:15 Maroon 5 style chorus 2:30 unexpected jazzy chord 2:54 bass solo &+ youtube.com/watch?v=gYc5zr…
@garybasin I was srsly expecting the results to be way more skewed to the longer options. I would also hit the tomorrow option if it were there. My choice of buckets reveal how uncalibrated I was about this in relation to my followers at least (surely there are demographics where it'd fit)
@CountJ0ecool @spearofsolomon I just meant these 3 tweets, but I think it was partially me misreading some of your uses of "(meta)systemic" as "(meta)systematic" Also realizing I have no idea what our shared context is. what systems thinking sources? can I assume you've read this? 👇 meaningness.com/metablog/meta-…
@CountJ0ecool @spearofsolomon Mmm, the bit about inventing new fields reminds of me of the MHC (Model of Hierarchical Complexity) The final graphic below shows the levels of complexity needed to invent new fields. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_of_…
@CountJ0ecool @spearofsolomon Okay, reading your various responses (they all helped!) I'm realizing we've been talking past each other. The word "system" is very overloaded. I mostly think of it in this sense, and thought you were too, til I realized you said "system thinking" not "systems thinking"
@davidmanheim @QiaochuYuan It doesn't subvert the metrics themselves, but it may subvert the metrics grasp on one's soul or one's validity. Like setting aside the idea that the school gets to say if you're good enough and that you ought to have to try & prove yourself.
@davidmanheim @QiaochuYuan Maybe put another way, cheating at the Olympics is dishonorable because it undermines the meaning of it. The meaning of school is already fucked because students are coerced into it, and undermining that meaning has its own validity.
@QiaochuYuan I so want a campus. It's in a town of like 3000 ppl tho so you'd end up sort of weirdly taking over the town if you actually filled the campus with the 600+ people the campus can house. Sorta worse than either "totally rural, nobody around" and "urban area with lots going on"
@QiaochuYuan (I'm realizing that the 3300 people in the 2018 census may including 700 students+teachers, so it may be more like 2600 people otherwise living in the town lol. Which is now basically destined for collapse unless it does something clever fast. Pretty though!)
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CANCEL “Cancel “Cancel Cancel Culture!” culture” CULTURE!
@KHPavle I can hook you up with a userstyle
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It’s remarkable how often the tweets claiming cancel culture doesn’t exist immediately follow that claim with an argument that…
I started reading @meditationstuff's protocol (not yet clear to what extent I'll explicitly practice it) & I'm realizing that one thing that draws me to it is it seems unboring & creative. Most meditation instructions I've seen are "do the same thing over & over"
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For a society to keep the lights on, people need to be able to lead legible lives without an anvil over their heads. I don…
[Gendlin's] Focusing, as the name suggests, is like bringing a lens into focus: making something blurry be clear. BioEmotive/NEDERA is like finding a resonance frequency & feedback loop, where you can pluck something and the system rings louder & louder
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia @utotranslucence this thread is related to @marginaliaclub's vision
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if mlk gave his famous speech today a 17 y.o white girl would quote tweet him like "nice try, but actually I Had A Dre…
@ShashwatEternal Doesn't work for me super well either, tbh. Have had a lot more success with BioEmotive. At some point will write up a bit more of a post comparing the two in detail.
@impactology @Jeanvaljean689 @visakanv Didn't get that far into it. Have been digging Philip Shepherd's Radical Wholeness, which is related in various ways. And I recently heard that Iain McGilchrist (@divided_brain) has now finished a draft of his upcoming book "The Matter with Things"!
@CountJ0ecool @spearofsolomon Yeah, greater power always possible, though there's always a question about which uplevelings are more fundamental in particular ways. I wrote this rant awhile back that posits that Kegan stages are contingent on other factors. Things like that maybe.
@KHPavle Might need to jam a bit with you live to get super clear on exactly what you want, but for now here's an export of the main userstyles I use for twitter to reduce distraction... hides notification counts, hides clutter below tweet-compose modal... etc. gist.github.com/malcolmocean/2…
@SHL0MS @visakanv Yeah this is good shit. I tried inventing dozenal digits when I was like 13 - recently found it in an old journal. Have also played with counting in other bases, which is fun.
Just read the short novel(la) Jonathan Livingston Seagull. Not sure what I was expecting! Not sure what I found. I sort of feel like I learned something, but I'm not really sure what.
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It's time. We're helping @jack fix Twitter. Twitter thinks it's Facebook, but it's LinkedIn. It needs to monetize beyond ads,…
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The best Letter take.
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Poetry by GPT3 (bold me)
@nicklovescode Was the bold part the prompt?
@nicklovescode Damn.
@nicklovescode @SarahAMcManus this GPT3 poem 👆 resonates kind of with "I had too much stuff. My machines came from too far away."
My ongoing design doc on how Twitter could be redesigned to be better for having high-quality conversations. Includes: • ideas for Twitter itself • ideas for plugins/extensions/etc • ideas for starting fresh with a separate platform. Read ➡️ roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
Also gdi @Conaw please make it so random visitors to my roamblog can't alter the expand/collapse node state for everybody. Utter chaos for multiple readers. This should be a 2-line fix to prevent that request being sent if the client doesn't have permission. CC @RoamResearch
@Conaw @RoamResearch Oh man I know the feeling 😂😂😂 I can imagine a few ways that that might be so... can I request you spend 5 minutes writing out why this would be utterly impossible to solve in 15 minutes? I sometimes find when I do this it finds an assumption I can 🗑️
I don't know if this is exactly the answer for Twitter's business model, but it's closer than what we've got so far! He's got some concrete proposals for monetizing twitter as the incredible thing it is, not trying to pretend it's Facebook.
In any case, starting by fixing the incentives does seem like the thing to do. I've been collecting ideas for years of how Twitter might improve but until the users are the customers it's going to be hard to prioritize most of these ideas.
Here's a tweetstorm I did awhile back highlighting some of my top ideas for things I would improve about twitter. Doesn't talk much explicitly about the incentive thing, more about interface & interaction stuff.
And here's my full personal collection of thoughts & notes on redesigning Twitter. Includes some things I think are obviously good ideas, and other things that are absurd, plus lists of related tools & people working on related projects, etc.
@packyM @jack @paulg @drorpoleg @nikillinit @Post_Market @Marc_it @cm @AlexCartaz Yesssssssss this is great. I've been thinking for a couple of years about improving Twitter, and I initially thought it would require making a separate platform, but I'm coming around to the idea that we can fix the incentives on Twitter itself.
> "In today’s chaotic media environment, not even a global pandemic can restore a shared sense of Reality." Profound insight by @aaronzlewis ift.tt/2CiA6nS
Realized I've forgetten the quote I tweeted out from the @aaronzlewis article a few mins ago. One take: must have not been as profound as I thought Another take: I put it into my social SRS
Playing with a new model: "midlife crisis" is a special case of a general phenomenon that shows up on many timescales, including a single workday: Early on, you promised yourself you'd do certain things with ample remaining time. Crisis = sudden realization you're insolvent.
Retweeted @uncatherio
So I fiinally think I get what Mark is pointing at with "untwisting" etc Start with: so when your life is getting gnarly,…
🎶 So wake me up when it's all over 🎵 When I'm wiser and I'm older …except that it turns out… if you sleep through it you grow no wiser.
@tomcritchlow Added this to my twitter redesign doc!
What are you favorite wordplay-based book titles? A couple of mine: 👩👧👦Mother Nature: maternal instincts and how they shape the human species 😠 All the Rage: Buddhist Wisdom on Anger and Acceptance
@natural_hazard Ooooh yeah, classic.
@JayleneWallick Hm?
@robertskmiles I don't think this was me. But yeah, I think the thing here is like "in a world without meaningness"
Retweeted @selentelechia
yeah the shitposters figured this out in march twitter.com/SarahTaber_bww…
@visakanv Maybe the only book summary I have ever written except when coerced to by school. I get a lot out of books and have often *intended* to write summaries but usually that's not where my motivation actually lives. I'm more "here's 100 things it reminds me of"
@skyyygazer @visakanv When I see "war of art" I feel a loose connection with the @barenakedladies song Fog of Writing: The fog of writing is like the fog of war you lie to yourself and you pretend you can do it so you can do it more youtube.com/watch?v=MH2zkI…
Retweeted @visakanv
every tweet is sacred to me, I say this with full earnestness
@michaelcurzi Lot of trauma sources. One of my own that got amplified by rationalism was school trauma where my teachers could be abusive jerks but at least when I was right about something & they were wrong I got to hold them in contempt. LW does this for "bad reasoning" not "wrong belief"
@natural_hazard @DaltonDEmery @QiaochuYuan @visakanv and my axe
idk about all of the details but I resonate a lot with much of the spirit of this
I just dug up an old twitter convo to thread it into something recent that was related, but then when I re-read the old convo I recalled that while it was a neat discussion, we got kind of triggered and called it off. So I decided not to link back to it.
Not saying this was right, or that it would have wrong to do otherwise, just saying it's what I decided to do, under the circumstances.
@TaylorPearsonMe this is also about GPT-2 but illustrates some important things web.archive.org/web/2020031006…
@TaylorPearsonMe Lots of examples & further links here: gwern.net/GPT-3
@TaylorPearsonMe This short video clip is kinda mind-blowing:
WE WILL WE WILL GROK YOU
I like this recent post by @meditationstuff. Feels like it interplays delightfully with his many maybe-almost-totally-not-quite-but-substantially-done posts. ift.tt/30cGrK8
The phrase "that'll teach them a lesson!" involves a deep confusion around how learning works. "I can't teach you, I can only SHOW you." Show cruelty, and people will learn cruelty. Show anger, and people will learn anger. Show resent, and people will learn resent.
Retweeted @fourfoldvision
This is why the process called "individuation" should be confused with what is called "individualism" (atomisation), wh…
Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets
A 3-tweet thread that connects McGilchrist's model to a vital distinction between • "individualism" (atomistic; fragmented; un-whole) • "individuation" (the necessity of any system maintaining both boundary with environment & negentropic openness)
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
A 3-tweet thread that connects McGilchrist's model to a vital distinction between • "individualism" (atomistic; fragment…
Replying to @DaltonDEmery
@DaltonDEmery Not an eternalist value system, nor nihilism. Ratcheting (quite successfully) towards fluid mode / complete stance. (Which is how I characterize the difference between postrat (existentialism/absurdism) and metarat) Read @Meaningness for an explication: meaningness.com/preview-eterna…
@TheOrangeAlt 🤷 I would say completely orthogonal
@TaylorPearsonMe Yes re mess. I'd say less about compromise, more about dialogue. Huge diff between • "A good compromise is when both parties are dissatisfied" 😒🙄 (still unresolved tension—truly solved?) • perspective-taking generating collective capacity to care for all levels going forward
@coponder This applet, as a homescreen widget on my android phone. ifttt.com/applets/192012…
@haig Btw this is what I ended up going with! Still using it regularly 1.5y later.
@coponder Context: (seems like buffer might be better (eg might allow queuing things up offline) but idk it feels like it's got too much going on still)
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One of the biggest things I have changed my mind about in the past five years is that optimal solutions to complex pro…
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@TaylorPearsonMe Yes re mess. I'd say less about compromise, more about dialogue. Huge diff between • "A good compromis…
Retweeted @jondubin
I would like to NOT trample over parts anymore in the process of moving through life
😂 I'm on a BioEmotive Masterclass call (re Repression, Chronic Muscle Tension, etc) and host @DougTataryn's internet dropped out, and the participants were all playfully unmuting and saying things like: "I feel lost" "I feel helpless" "I feel disconnected" So good.
Retweeted @Conaw
You can't put a deadline on insight though. Making real progress on an intellectual problem requires drawing connections between…
> "The easiest thing to change is your function. If I go to the gym... I could program myself to go and do some function. I will ride my bike home. Functions you can force yourself to do. Posture *is* you." Video is 🤯 youtube.com/watch?v=JYpPu-…
Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets
Seal accessing dial-up internet while sleeping.
Retweeted @meditationstuff
❌ meditationthings (eternalism) ❌ meditationnothings (nihilism) ✅ meditationstuff (nebulosity)
Retweeted @ESYudkowsky
Imagine if a President could be elected for any number of terms, but required a higher percentage of the (popular) vote ea…
Replying to @s_r_constantin
@s_r_constantin > Rare disease families ie people who decide to hustle on solving a particular rare disease because a family member has it?
"History is just one damn thing after another." _______ is just one damn thing before another.
Retweeted @TempAPStyle
The comma ellipses (,,,) should be used in place of the period ellipses (...) in all instances.
*tastes smoothie a second time* Me, to @SarahAMcManus: it's... actually not bad! there's a thing where surprise can be read as "bad" but there's something to enjoy here if you can find it within you to want it to taste how it does
MAXIMUM EFFORTLESSNESS
@m_ashcroft I was thinking of you when I tweeted this 😂
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Usually discussions about gender are frustrating because it seems so... Not insightful. In contrast, this Twitter thread is…
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
Tag yourself, I'm me.
@stevejohnryan @Buddh_ish @discordwell If you check out Mutual Causality by Joanna Macy, she makes a case that it's not one damn thing before another, but many damn things before many damn other things. It's a very powerful book. One of my favorites I've read in the last few years. Link: amzn.to/3eH7CBX
@HorseboyTFE @bucketofkets @QiaochuYuan I don't think it has an anti-harm thing. But I think there are probably a lot more samples of people being talked out of, than into, killing themselves, on the internet anything specifically geared towards therapy, empathy-chat will likely be strongly optimized for safety too
@vgr This video makes a pretty wild case that "eating healthy" isn't just about nutrition but about jaw posture & swallowing technique... that, if missing, cause a bunch of bad health effects due to eg constriction of carotid artery—widely prevalent nowadays.
I can't trust someone who believes nothing controversial or unorthodox. I also can't trust someone who believes *everything* controversial or unorthodox. Of course, it's possible to believe a bunch of bollocks in both directions, so this is just a minimum.
@jondubin Yeah, @mattgoldenberg has a thing about generating new possibilities as part of overcoming stuckness. I forget how he phrases it, can look it up or maybe he'll fill it in.
@m_ashcroft Your "tag yourself, I'm me" definitely multiplies the humour of it... even though—perhaps because—it doesn't add anything useful on the content level.
"How much guilt should other people be allowed to make you feel?" That is the meta-topic on so many levels, and not just about covid. (My answer is "actually zero. guilt is not a good material to build social architecture out of, nor is shame or fear." It's brittle & explodes.)
@yung_shishtov hold steady! I basically don't use twitter on my phone at all (except for an IFTTT widget for sending out shower thoughts) and it's really really great.
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Retweeted @micahtredding
Working from home IS the traditional way of life. So much of what our culture embraced in the 20th century as part of a…
@TheOrangeAlt you are publishing some of the best garbage the world has seen in recent years, keep it up 👍👍👍
@GRITCULT this but for attempting to educate people about the right way to think/act/relate
Apparently what my body wants right now is to do trauma release exercises (shaking/tremoring) while listening to electrofunk! (Emerged very spontaneously—my top-down concept of what I was doing was "working through an exercise on fear of failure") youtube.com/watch?v=arPaai…
@jondubin @mattgoldenberg Ah yeah, "produce possibilities", which, along with "permit possibilities" and "process possibilities" are 3 techniques for preventing pressure.
@jondubin @mattgoldenberg I'm signed up for his Procrastination Playbook bootcamp 8-week workshop... dunno when he's running the next cohort of it.
@rosieodsey This email has one reason for existing, why not make it as big as possible? (and then comment on said fact 😂)
@DRMacIver GO HARD ON SOFTNESS
@BillLoundy Huh, fascinating! Your supposedly ungameable metric fills me with good-natured 🧐 Also when I think deep reading I mostly think about books, not just long-form articles. Curious if that's on your radar too! You might dig this thread I wrote re read-tech:
@learning20201 Nice! Add it as a reply there?
@NormanChella > Could be a great way to confront trauma and move past it Yeah that's exactly what I was doing. (Schools are traumatizing for most people.)
@Disputationist @ESYudkowsky Yeah if you'd asked me "when was GPT-3 announced/released/launched?" I probably would have guessed last week. Had no awareness a paper was out a few months ago. (Separate from whether I would read such a paper or grok implications. idk there.)
First GPT-3 result that I find actually actually hard to believe (in the quoted tweet). I just tried a similar thing with math tutoring and it was initially really impressive, including literally my character pointing out that Jack said something contradicting... then it borks.
Guessing that @kleptid did a bit of picking through answers for good ones? Still impressive if so. I didn't do any in my one above. My only input was the first 2 lines and the "> You say". The rest was generated first shot. Another of kleptid's:
After playing with a math tutoring example for just a couple mins and getting even the falling-apart-after-a-bit example I got, I... no longer roll to disbelieve on the original. Though I would be fairly shocked if it were all the first responses I think.
@TaylorPearsonMe Click through multiple layers for some wack examples:
@learning20201 I was suggesting you add it as a reply. I want this myself but not quite at the level where I'm inclined to add it as part of the canonical thread of responses.
@learning20201 > so the ultimate idea for learning is to make all knowledge modalities conversational! Thisssss.
Ahh, somehow seeing the context of this having come from an anonymous image board poster is making me slightly more skeptical again. Although the ears thing I totally believe based on forays into AI Dungeon. It's telling a story and groks Chekhov's gun.
Retweeted @michael_nielsen
I'd guess GPT-3 is far more generative than the guitar, that you can learn to "play" GPT-3 (and successors) better and…
@TristanMiano @xuenay I already had an AI Dungeon math tutor scene going, so I asked, and you were right! At least, according to my tutor. My character is apparently pretty confident it's a 3 😂 (I wrote only the line starting with ">")
You're an AI trying to pass a Turing test. There is a human who is testing you, and your mission is to get them to think you're also a human, not an AI. The conversation takes place through a chat interface. This is a transcript of that chat log. Tester: (👆the full input 👇 AI)
Replying to @Phxtho
@Phxtho @tangjeff0 Yep, it's epic. You need a paid account (there's a free trial) to access GPT-3 instead of just GPT-2. It's called the "Dragon" engine in settings.
After the above, it got a little loopy in a boring way, so I re-rolled once and now it's loopy in a self-aware and hilarious way: the Tester and the AI argue over who's supposed to start the conversation, then the AI says: "This isn't how a normal human would react."
Sam re GPT-3. Kinda makes sense. The ability to respond reasonably to chat messages, based on having digested the entire internet is here/imminent, and feels human enough. However—we're going to learn something about ourselves from this experience.
It feels human enough partially because it's high quality, & also partially because in practice we don't actually read what others write very thoroughly! I once read a chat exchange aloud & discovered I'd responded without having parsed what was said at all.
In this particular case... I'd say I got like 30% of the meaning that was actually there to get, plus like another 15% backwards because I misread it. But the person probably didn't notice, because I was just kind of responding with some related ideas, kinda jamming, you know.
@michael_nielsen @gwern Inspired by an AI Dungeon example where math is discussed in simple language, I seem to be having decent results here. I had to... not just say what parity IS but HOW to calculate it ("count the number of 1s") and then it sort of walks itself through decently. Tho kinda confused
@michael_nielsen @gwern Rewinding a bit... nah I guess it's pretty confused. But I think doing slightly better than the example you posted, on short ones anyway.
@michael_nielsen @gwern This is weirdly coherent, sort of?
Retweeted @sonyasupposedly
GPT-3 has surprisingly (maybe... not surprisingly?) cogent thoughts on falsehood
Consider: customize customer customs accustomed
I want a version of @ncasenmare's Loopy that has: • delays (without just putting in more steps) • stocks & buffers (beyond just ~3-4 layers) • flows proportional to stock levels • graphs over time of stock levels Has anyone built this? ncase.me/loopy/
Thread · Self-organized criticality and civilization as a sandcastle
Self-Organized Criticality is a really important concept, and basic to how the universe manages to end up being interesting. These dynamics are fractal so they show up on all scales (eg neurons). @TaylorPearsonMe's thread is great. I'm going to share some thoughts of my own 🧵
Taylor uses a discrete grid-based sandpile model developed by Per Bak etc in the 80s. You can also model this dynamic with straight up physics: any given grain has a maximum slope, above which it collapses. Gradual addition of sand moves to critical, then avalanche corrects.
What's remarkable about this model is it points out that the critical slope is a natural attractor based on these two forcing functions. The system *naturally tends towards* situations in which a small addition of sand can cause a huge avalanche (power law distribution)
Recently I was struck by a sense that society was in some sense a SANDCASTLE 🏰, built up WAY past the critical slope… but somehow held up with a: 💧 water to make sand stickier 🛠️ fortifications: plastic shovels propped up against it 👏 active hands-on attempts to patch it
This is a new [[metaphor]] for talking about what's broken with our civilization, & like any new [[metaphor]] it has new affordances.
Sustainability is often discussed in terms of resource depletion This new sandcastle metaphor allows us to talk about not just the consumption of the society, but the instability of the structure itself: It's not simply that it will run out, but that it will fall down.
Moreover, like any falling down, civilizational collapse would involve a release of potential energy! Since the industrial revolution we've used more energy than is sustainable, but there's also a sense in which a lot of that energy remains latent & poised to explode.
It's clear that society has more dimensions & complexity than just a pile… …which means that the state-space has multiple options, so we can ask: "what shape would it collapse into?" "what shape would we like it to collapse into?" "can we catch it with new structures?"
Another question here might be "what sorts of factors play the role of the forcing functions in the sandpile?" Mutual Causality in Buddhism & General Systems Theory, which I was reading when I had the above insight, suggests: 💞 a pull to commonality ↔️ a pull to distinction
Obviously it's way more complex than that, but I think that's part of it. She points out how those two need to be in balance for maximum intelligence: 👥 total unity & totalitarianism blocks info flow 🅰️ total chaos & anarchy lacks coordination
I have a lot more questions & ideas I'm exploring here, which you can find on my roamblog here on the page [[Self-Organized Criticality]] roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo… Here's a sketch I made while thinking about it. Pink star is in the totally-unstable sandcastle region.
I'd also love to know what if anything this inspires in you! Connections, critiques, ideas for what the various forcing functions might be?
@TaylorPearsonMe Nice! I've been thinking a bunch about self-organized criticality & sandpiles lately too, and your thread inspired me to write up & share some thoughts I've been thinking about over the last month:
@TaylorPearsonMe Here's a teaser from partway down the thread:
Let's make some redundant neologisms. I'll go first: multiplural
Thread · Graph tools, family DAGs, and the sexual reproduction of ideas
Complete "family trees" aren't actually trees (unless asexual reproduction). Mating process makes it a DAG instead. I was already saying @RoamResearch was a gamechanger (over workflowy or file-folder hierarchies) like the advent of sexual reproduction—turns out it's isomorphic!
(For those somehow unfamiliar with @RoamResearch, it looks like @WorkFlowy but allows "pages" that represent unique entities that can be referenced & you can see references to, and allows embedding nodes or subtrees in other places within the graph.)
See also @anthilemoon's recent explorations of the concept of "idea sex" 💡😉
Twitter would be a bunch of isolated trees if it didn't have QTs. I would say QTs don't allow full-on *mating* though... they're more like horizontal gene transfer between bacteria?
Full mating of tweets would be if you could QT two tweets at once, or reply to two tweets at once. Currently happens via screenshot, eg my #Twiptych series or the example you can find if you click through below
Although I kinda feel like @visakanv here is talking about the difference between asexual reproductive success and sexual reproductive success 😂
idk whether @jack or others at @Twitter have been reading what me & @visakanv & @micahtredding others have been writing, but it looks like they're starting to explore this hyperdrive possibility
@ghuubear haha I like both of these riffing on the first: - quasiambiguity - semipartiality - ultraextreme definitely a pretty simple algo of like "pick a prefix and apply it to a word that already means what the prefix means" then requires taste to pick good combos
@nicklovescode @michael_nielsen Just realized I that while your tweet might've been what inspired my thread below last year, I hadn't actually linked it back up over here! Tons of ideas:
@natural_hazard @QiaochuYuan @nosilverv @Timber_22 Very indirect response but basically I think that what's going on with psychiatry is something like what's going on with orthodontics (see epic vid below) You can fix crowding with braces, & this may help short-term, but ultimately it's a learning process
1h33 Bret: "So you're not arguing against all appliances… you're arguing for some, & against others" Mike: "yeah, you just need to think, about what you're doing and why, before you wrap braces around everything" B: "as a zealot, you're disappointing me… you're very moderate"
@natural_hazard @QiaochuYuan @nosilverv @Timber_22 I'm offering that as like... a meta-level framework because I think that you want a psychiatrist who is to psychiatry what this orthodontist is to orthodontics: someone who's willing to work with those tools while recognizing they don't fix the generators.
my only critique is that it's not "micro-manifesto", it's "minifesto"
What word did people use to say "this tastes like cardboard?" before there was cardboard? (This tweet brought to you by me reading the Aro Buddhism email list)
This is impressive (HT @SarahAMcManus for the link) And also I find myself guessing it would have failed if the thing it was asked to build didn't have 1000s of examples of almost exactly that already online. Maybe even if word "todo" simply changed to something else.
Of course, of course, the next version will be better, etc etc. Like any tool, it draws our attention to the level of abstraction we're working on, and offers us an opportunity to focus more on a higher level of abstraction. The future is gonna be wack.
complice.co: clear intentions, lightly held.
@Conaw @RoamResearch @csvoss stuff about idea sex maybe
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first draft, does this seem accurate / have i missed anything important
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Common Knowledge Goddamn but if this isn’t what religions do. The difference between ‘my collaborators all said they’…
@QiaochuYuan This is gold. I identify with both people in this image, sometimes at the same time.
@ofmorningshift so you have internalized the propaganda I see
@meditationstuff uhh @diviacaroline maybe you have thoughts? I need to keep better track of which of my tweeps are parents lol
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A: People—hapless, malleable clay! Noise, meddlers, useful idiots! B: People—inquisitive, creative, self-organizing!…
If you know a country ranks substantially higher on a PPP-adjusted GDP chart vs a nominal GDP chart, what does that tell you about the country? I'm asking for… uhh… a friend… who's thinking of starting a country…
Debates about public vs private miss that the majority of things both ARE and OUGHT to be neither, but rather some other category that's more conscious & contextual. Is there a word for this other category? "not private, not public, but ______" Do we need to coin such a word?
Replying to @talmai
@talmai @TwitterSupport I'm having a similar bug (found your tweet via searching to see if this was common). Successfully exported a couple months ago I think. Guessing that they temporarily turned it off in relation to the hack that happened last week.
Specifically I'm talking about utterances here. "Is what you just said private?" "No, but it's not public, it's ______" Again: this is actually the implicit default, in most cultures, but since it doesn't have a name, it can easily feel like "if it's not private, it's public"
@ofmorningshift uhh it's like the contrapositive of this guy:
Replying to @JamesWords
@nullary Ooooh fyeah, bringing some actual sources all up in this shit.
@pervexists69 @danlistensto welcome to my area of twitter I think we'll get along
At some point I'll need to write up my actual rant about this topic. Wasn't planning to do that today but the TL;DR is something like: "norms of discourse that expect it to be explicit whether everything is public/private are brittle & block learning & nuanced trust-building"
Also they prevent flow of meta-information: A to B: "Thing" B to C: "A said Thing" B might not want A to know they told C, if B thinks maybe A was holding Thing as "private" even though not explicitly stated, & even though it made sense to B to share it with C (but not public!)
Relatedly, see my rant awhile back about Chatham House Rule and how it can function in similar ways to the dynamic I've described above, IF deployed carelessly in a situation that isn't appropriate.
@pervexists69 The cheap laugh is arguably even prosocial, as it helps people hone their BS detectors. (Not to mention the value of the laugh itself, on many levels)
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Feeling morally adequate in the eyes of our tribe is a powerful, innate requirement for basic security. Can we reinstate…
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@Meaningness Yeah baby
@azlenelza Tried this out awhile back and jotted down a bit of feedback: - would be nice to have video, not sure how that would - arrow wasn't at all clear what it did (still not certain, think it's about attention, and doesn't affect audio)
@azlenelza would be neat if people disappeared, there was a door that appeared to walk through - aha, we talked about this and someone set up an exit sign, and we correctly identified that someone was leaving because they wandered over by the exit
@azlenelza also their mic wasn't working and we had no way to know! the only way we realized was I went to say goodbye to the person who went to the exit and it was more clear that they weren't just being ignored but nobody was responding to what they said
@azlenelza someone else's mic stopped working, and their mouth was still moving for them but not moving for me - super bad in terms of knowing what's going on, feedback etc anyway! altogether I dug the experience and I think there's lots of valuable stuff to be explored here
@azlenelza using cozyroom.xyz felt a bit like being a character in midnight gospel: I'm a little colorful blob talking to another blob inside a trippy environment 😂
🎶 Why am I pushing away what silence has to say? 🎵 Why do I push through the day? 🎶 Like tomorrow's gonna figure it out, figure it out, figure it out 🎵 Like someone else will figure it out, figure it out, figure it out youtube.com/watch?v=VD_7rv…
This but also for tested supplements / medicine.
@magicianbrainl1 @mechanicalmonk1 I ♥ you guys
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What would you expect to find in a book titled "The Recovering Rationalist's guide to Restoring the Right Side of the Brain…
@nosilverv I think this 👆 is actually kind of like this 👇 But instead of overwriting an internal prior (stored in your emotional brain) it's not safe to overwrite the strong prior provided by your senses. Dreaming is the system reorganizing internally.
@nosilverv On the flipside, yeah, there is a sense in which most people are kind of dreaming during much of their waking life, which is to say living in a constructed world that's totally different than what most other people would experience in the same situation.
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Wait, so, via dreaming, my mind can generate arbitrary worlds that *feel* real. Why can’t I do that volitionally, when awake?
@visakanv Yeah it's like where does the money go? • whoever designs the ad campaigns • whoever owns the physical billboards • whoever runs the websites/shows where the ads run Is that the best place for the money to go? Maybe yes if it multiplies impact, but you have to ask
@TheOrangeAlt @natural_hazard @QiaochuYuan I've been thinking about this lately in terms of certain archetypes & responsibilities. Ends up tending to have something to do with parenthood. Separate from "do I / would I have kids?" there's something about a kind of response-ability required that feels central to adulthood.
@PeterBorah Agreed re the process thing. I still think there needs to be shorthand for "not pub/priv". "I trust your judgment" feels like the shortest phrase that captures it, and I like it 🥰
Was initially pissed about this, thinking blind auditions are the perfect example of "actually hiring based entirely on talent, to avoid discrimination on the basis of stereotypes etc". But source points out that it's hard to tell best from 10th-best: all sound flawless. so idfk
Quoted text above is from @mtaibbi's taibbi.substack.com/p/the-left-is-… ...which is more condescending towards pretty much everyone than I would be, but it's broadly making an important point about loss of humor as a warning sign.
@yashkaf (it jumps back and forth between using "I" and "you" for the not-AI character)
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@MaureenBug A beginners guide to twitter: Q: "How do I know what side of a twitter debate is the right one?" A: "The bad side…
@spearofsolomon @Meaningness Yeah I'm with you that the leverage probably isn't in this particular node of the system directly, *and* it does seem to me that this node is likely to itself have really catastrophic downstream effects and @Meaningness' tweet highlighting its existence as a node is helpful.
Ugh I spent too much time looking at the discourse today and now I'm feeling vaguely misanthropic. I think this tweet 👇 captures the structure of what's happening, though not about myself. More like feeling like everyone has contempt for everyone.
Huh, this is kind of a good place to answer complice.co supportmail from. It's like… the big shit's fucked but this person has a precise & concrete problem and I'm the only person who can solve it, and I can do that right now. That's pretty satisfying.
Update: now watching this youtube video and it is encouraging. Remarkably nuanced conversation on sensitive topics, with a ton of disagreement, with utter unwavering respect by everyone for everyone. youtu.be/pHGt733yw3g
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@visakanv Mistake I've made many times: seeing someone with a simple problem and thinking "not to worry, this just needs a qui…
Replying to @MWStory
@MWStory You might find this discussion of a prediction paradox interesting, although I think it applies much less to an organization than to political situations.
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a lot of what informs the way i behave on twitter (and elsewhere) is based on a specific understanding of defensiveness an…
For this next exercise, locate your closest available self…
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standing up for what you believe in should look and feel beautiful (19/n)
Evergreen thread that talks about twitter norms & meta-norms as well as talking about emotional dynamics, triggering, rationalizing, self-honesty, revealing, and anger. Weaves these together and ends on a beautiful note.
Maybe true by default. Learning mindset is vital though so my response is just "welp, that means we need to develop a more secure version!" (Altho this exact topic (non-naive learning) has been a main investigation for me for last few weeks already, so hardly a change of plans)
@vgr Bootstrapping underway.
I don't know who needs to hear this: It's okay to not have a justified position—or even any position at all—on philosophical questions that others say are really important. You don't have to apologize. You don't have to make something up.
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna Yeah, likewise!
@learning20201 @CatoMinor3 @Conaw Words can point at everything somewhat, including the dao if you're clever. But they're always a map, so they can't *capture* the ideas. Most ideas are pretty good at escaping from their words.
@spearofsolomon @Meaningness @jim_rutt That understates the value of what @Meaningness said above. The situation would be equivalent however if all that people previously knew was "people are dying" and @Meaningness pointed out "they're getting the same disease—malaria—from mosquitos". That's valuable information.
@spearofsolomon @Meaningness @jim_rutt Doesn't answer where the mosquitos are coming from or how to address it, directly, but it points at a deep underlying structure. People are dying—*of malaria from mosquitos*. People are insecure—*due to diminishing systems for communicating basic adequacy*.
@buster Yup, also this! And you can act in accordance with a position without having any idea how to articulate it or what the canonical term for it is.
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gec mode
@QiaochuYuan @JeffLadish I really want this gif to continue lady-&-the-tramp style
Twitter seriously investigating subscription models! I don't have much to say that I haven't already said—I think this has a chance to seriously fix incentives. We'll see how it plays out! Fairly snarky article: techcrunch.com/2020/07/23/aft…
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@Malcolm_Ocean @buster And you're also allowed to be inconsistent in how you act due to not knowing your position. Oh,…
@mattgoldenberg @buster Secretly my saying "it's okay to not" is like an atheist saying "look, premarital sex isn't a sin". There's actually a categorical thing here that isn't about premarital sex. But shhh; deep meta-okayness is reached through a slippery slope
"I… I dunno. I'm over here doing what I do…" — @JockoWillink embodying this insight:
Source: 35mins into this video, talking about masculinity. youtube.com/watch?v=Lmv_5I…
Thread · Teaching dharma so people can recognize themselves in it
Very powerful thread—didn't go where I expected. Really appreciating the nuance & context-sensitivity described below. This isn't "for the sake" of anything but consciously working with language & meaning with situational awareness. t.co/bYuKanUnOd
As I've started learning more about the dharma, I've been struck by the Buddha's apparent tendency to teach in third person rather than second person (imperative). Not "do this", but "the skilled practitioner does this and realizes such & such". Descriptive, not prescriptive.
@JasnaSeishin's thread describes her surprise at the power imbued in her teacher's shift from "he/bhikkhu(monks)" to "she/bhikkhuni(nun)". It unlocked some new sense of seeing herself in the teaching. twitter.com/JasnaSeishin/s…
This then seems like a more generalizeable principle: Seek to communicate (eg) the dharma in ways that invite people to recognize themselves in it.
Gender is only one dimension. Ironically, it probably works less potently in the opposite direction. How do you say "MEN ♂️" when "men" means "people"? (Separately but relatedly, what good is saying "men" when most men don't really feel a meaningful connection with manhood?)
I have more questions than answers! 🙃 One thing it highlights though is the importance of having multiple role models for learning a subtle different way of being, so you can say "people—people like you—like you have learned this! yes, you in particular"
Replying to @JamesWords
@nullary Person leading a few minutes of mindfulness at the start of a zoom call: "feel the weight of your butt in your chair" Me at my standing desk:
@AE_Robbert mood
@speakerjohnash there is one: it feels intrinsically really satisfying if it doesn't, you're probably goodharting in the first place, and you wouldn't want to reward that
@Conaw @JimmyRis Oooooh metaphor design time! Let's see. Some initial thoughts... - "entity/thing" - "notion/thought/idea" (obvs you can't call it a notion 😂) - "concept/construct/frame" - "class" (I also noticed awhile ago that "page" doesn't evoke anything new)
@Conaw @JimmyRis If we take the "Roam" metaphor more seriously though, and imagine roaming through a second brain, then what are pages? They're... • landmarks • checkpoints • way stations • signposts • places Familiar places you come back to, recognize, & orient by, that change & evolve.
@Conaw @JimmyRis Or they're the features on a map? Or… they're not the features themselves, they're the types of features, as indicated by the Legend?
@Conaw @JimmyRis Just tried putting this into AI Dungeon, but 🤷♀️ > I am a roamer of the realm of ideas. I need to decide where to roam today. I consult my map of the realm. The realm is really my second brain, and so my map is the interface on roamresearch.com. When I look at the map, I see
@rothosphere (a few more tweets if you click through this)
@tomcritchlow Oh, I've had this on an alt for awhile and so far it seems like a shitshow.
@TristanMiano @patio11 finding it hard to take your question seriously given how different they obviously are but I'll point out one thing, which is editing it real-time, literally watching someone else type
@patio11 That dark matter is the organizational-scale version of this personal meta-problem / hidden dysfunction: twitter.com/MWStory/status…
@Conaw @JimmyRis I had an idea and I can't tell if it's terrible or amazing or both or what. Instead of "pages", call them "suchnesses" ...idk, probably terrible 😂
@Conaw @JimmyRis Okay, what about "gate"? It's kind of weird, but what I'm trying to evoke is something like... the *start* of a path.
@Conaw @JimmyRis Third angle, also not workable on its own but might point somewhere: "there". As in the opposite of "there's no there there" Because with Roam there's always a there there, in the form of the page refs.
@catherineols @RhysLindmark Sounds cool! Though feels kind of weird to give the impression that they can straightforwardly answer these two massive questions:
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My amazing friend & housemate @RhysLindmark is starting a 6-week online “school”-type thing for people doing ambitious, a…
@catherineols @RhysLindmark @utotranslucence & @marginaliaclub?
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Somewhere along the line, we got soft. twitter.com/BLONDIE_007_/s…
@RobbSmith ...fuck.
Replying to @por_ous
@por_ous Highly recommend Victor Wooten's book (get the audiobook, it has music clips etc in it) The Music Lesson. Totally transformed my relationship with keyboard (which I had barely played in years)
there's no such thing as a gazelle baby
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correcting someone's usage of "begs the question" begs the question about what "begs the question" means
New even simpler sing-together-online idea: 🗣️🎙️ rounds/canons 🔄 🎶 Count each person in at ~same time w metronome, then digitally sync the parts up with appropriate *increased* delay so measures line up perfectly. Can sing continuously together, live.
@mattgoldenberg there are definitely gazellings, just no babies
@GeniesLoki @Plinz wouldn't have agreed with that statement ("Kegan 5 is basically Kegan 4 plus therapy.") if you hadn't cited me but under the circumstances I'm finding I basically do agree 😅😂🤣
@learning20201 @Conaw @JimmyRis YES. I had "locus" on the tip of my tongue but didn't quite find it. Was even thinking about memory palaces for half a second but didn't think about it long enough to recall the phrase "method of loci"
Retweeted @joe_r_Odonnell
I have a psychology joke but it doesn’t work when I repeat it
@patio11 Yeah, it's a context where memetic variation & selection happens very quickly on many scales, also, yielding the kinds of memeplexes etc that are most virulent in various ways (and those ways themselves are evolving).
Thread · Idea: a latency-proof remote music loop machine · 1 of 4 tweets
@DanielleFong I've thought about this a lot, and it's a mix of all of those 4 options! Probably 2-3 working more full-time on Complice to generate way more revenue for the team (we'd neat it, to eat!) and the rest learning/writing/thinking/relating/strategizing etc
@DanielleFong I think you could do really effective co-learning because if one of you learned something you could probably explain it to yourselves or evoke the relevant insights, in ~10% of the time it took to learn it in the first place, to some extent (more or less, depending on the thing)
@DanielleFong Moreover, if already 25yo+, could probably attempt to diversify experiences a lot and still find it pretty easy to sync up based on shared background context & neurotopography, so could then have way higher-quality parallax than almost any ordinary team.
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if there were like, 6 of you, would you
@QiaochuYuan other
@learning20201 @DanielleFong hmm I feel pretty unconcerned about the idea of a bunch of Malcolms cancelling. I think if uncoordinated they'd all just go do a diverse set of unrelated worthwhile things like one guy would go build this or something:
@DanielleFong I don't think it's even possible, in some ways. The attractor basins of actually trying this result in a lot of self-consciousness, due to how feedback loops work. Truman Show worked because he didn't know he was live.
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wise words from my boyfriend: “another person is always, by definition, way deeper than you can imagine. locate your love…
@nibrasibn Oh no my phone glitched and my finger tapped "No" instead of "Yes". My family would regularly burst into song. From Nova Scotia, Canada.
@uberstuber Post updates from your head by yourself
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I could be on your audio apps, my voice soothing your inner child... but you want to keep discriminating against android…
> The way that people express their love is also, quietly, the way they are showing you "This is how I was not loved."
@visakanv curious how you relate to "city-state" as a metaphor! if you were European I would be thinking Athens but ofc you live in the most clear contemporary example of a city-state so surely that affects your sense of the meaning of the term
@visakanv gets it
@DanielleFong most (maybe all?) people who apparently give no fucks actually give lots of fucks about how many fucks they appear* to give (*appear to others and appear to themselves)
@utotranslucence Hmm just did a little googling and found this but I don't think it's it? virtualplaying.com
@visakanv Ah nice, yep, that makes sense. Meta-scenius, maybe.
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KJ brings up a point that I find interesting. If you got infected w/ #covid19, would you be more willing to talk to a co…
@visakanv I'm looking forward to the phase where it makes sense for you and I do some more direct active deep collaboration on all this stuff. Feels like it's not yet, but coming in the next few years.
Twitter I just spared you from a tweet you didn't need. You get this one instead. I hope it helps.
Currently writing some code with O(N⁴) complexity. ...but it's fine because N <= 10.
Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 2 of 35 tweets
hoverbird twitter.com/buitengebieden…
fractal self-organization twitter.com/SteveStuWill/s…
Replying to @not_nothingmuch
@mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 well right, exactly I just still have this image of my CS teacher being disturbed if I told him I had four nested for loops though, until he found out that N was really small. Cracks me up every time I do this, hence the tweet.
Feeling like I have a bunch of meaningful stuff to do on timescales of weeks, and an overarching sense of life purpose. Feeling totally lost about what it makes sense to do with the next hour or afternoon.
At least 3% of deaths, worldwide, over the last month or so, have been from covid. (Based on typical 150k deaths/day from World Death Clock and aggregate 5k deaths/day in the covid stats google/wikipedia show.) Likely substantially higher—idk how much undercounting there is.
@morgoe876 @RoamResearch mine is at intertwingled.blog it's pretty poorly organized tbh, but I love this style of blogging where I can link between posts that aren't yet "done"/"published" etc, and just start collecting thoughts here's a decent example WIP page: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
New motivational technique emerging, to deal with situation in QT below. 1. think of a thing I want to do in the future 2. consider how I might set myself up to be ready/empowered to do that thing 3. take actions from #2, now Future-me is a person I can do nice things for.
Realizing that part of why I want this is I'm now reading Donella Meadows' classic "Thinking in Systems", and its diagrams are more sophisticated than ones I've seen in other books (eg The Fifth Discipline) in that they track stocks & proportionality.
disturble
Just spent awhile trying to find this Alan Kay article and I knew I'd tweeted it but initially searched all the wrong keywords, which I will now put in this tweet for future: steve jobs bicycle mind guitar hero interview "what computers are for" inventor fastcompany.com/40435064/what-…
oh yeah also iphone ipad fastcompany.com/40435064/what-…
@mattgoldenberg Ah yeah, more generally: Mentally getting the two selves in the room at the same time so they can sort out what to do.
Replying to @danielharan
@danielharan @mattgoldenberg He also mentioned "stella" over here
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa Probably could get lots of value out of finding new and weird ways for her to inquire. Put on an unusual accent, phrase it way too formally or as if in some other weird context (eg "on a spaceship" or "we're both herons"). Would disrupt the flinch response, & add humor.
@alt_visa On a different level, can sometimes help a lot to reveal instead of question: "I find myself wanting to know what you're up to, and <context around what's present for me>" Questions often make people defensive because they force a kind of "you go first" dynamic. Must answer, etc
@alt_visa At @liminal_agency we sometimes experiment with trying to ask zero questions for an entire week, not because questions are bad but to allow us to better understand the impacts of asking or not asking, and what happens when we reveal instead. An experiment worth running!
unlearning trauma responses is allowed to be fun
@alt_visa Re this 👆
@halvorz @danlistensto I have a vague memory of a story from ancient greek times (idk if fable or true story) of a doctor who did exactly this... boasted that he'd never had a patient die, and was extremely risk-averse when taking on patients.
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when the train always stops in exactly the same place, the air conditioner always drips in exactly the same place, and a tiny e…
@nwilliams030 This sort-of-monologue, sort-of-interview with Daniel Schmactenberger about using power to fight corruption, without getting corrupted by it in the process. I sent links to it to like a dozen of my friends after watching. youtube.com/watch?v=hKvVdG…
@m_ashcroft @JasnaSeishin has a great take on this, framing it as a race to leave behind the monkey mind in the previous moment and race to the next (click through for full thread) twitter.com/JasnaSeishin/s…
Retweeted @meditationstuff
stages: the world is fine the world is not fine & you can't do anything about it can do something about can'…
@yung_shishtov I think at least some of it has to be fun, or there are huge limits to where you can get but you can also make headway in ways that are just kind of like "whoa that's a lot"
> As for the former worry, that the independent-minded are being oversensitive, and that free inquiry hasn't been shut down that much, you can't judge that unless you are yourself independent-minded. I want to quote basically every sentence in this essay. paulgraham.com/conformism.html
If y'all aren't following @threat_update, you're gonna be way behind when the news breaks.
@NotAlanKay Part of the issue was I had forgotten your name! I remembered "starts with A" and "3 letters" but that was it.
@pervexists69 ...and how is what you're doing here helping now? 🤨
@ryanguill @jaw_labs @Conaw @ommateum_io @RoamResearch With my sincerest post-apologies to Simon & Garfunkel Roamward bound My ideas are Roamward bound Roam! Where my thoughts are thinking Roam! Bidirectional linking Roam! Where each block is waiting there to be referenced
@pervexists69 I guess we're fucked then
@Meaningness Happened to be listening to this song by Simon & Garfunkel and these lines seemed resonant with the seedcorn remark: > Believe we're gliding down the highway > When in fact we're slip slidin' away youtube.com/watch?v=ZNt5Fn…
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thread from Yuga, interesting as is and perhaps continuing onward twitter.com/MelancholyYuga…
How being in power affects brain function. They don't talk about specific regions, but loss of empathy etc suggests the left hemisphere dominating & inhibiting the right. That makes sense, since power allows for increased decoupled abstraction. theatlantic.com/magazine/archi…
I have some writing in the works about how the out-of-touch-with-reality only applies to left-hemisphere based abstraction, and that there's a right-hemisphere mode of abstraction that puts things *in* their big picture context. We need both faculties.
(excerpt in previous tweet is from Radical Wholeness by Philip Shepherd—shoutout to @Timber_22 for pitching it to me multiple times) philipshepherd.com/radical-wholen…
@Human__Age @Timber_22 Digging it on the whole. Very fresh, opens with beautiful case study about the Anlo-Ewe people, for whom the most important sense isn't any of our classic 5, but *balance*, & implications of that. Author feels anxiously biased towards embodiment etc though, vs spacious about it.
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@danielharan What sort of empirical grounding would you be looking for? I'm guessing if you ran the numbers you'd find people are getting fired for things they said 10 years ago more than they were 10 years ago. And various lead measures don't look great.
Narrative templates: "Hero's Journey": Kegan... 2→3? 3→4? idk, both? _______?_______: Kegan 4→5 Seems like there's something here. I have a couple thoughts about potential common themes to such journeys, but I don't want to prime people. What do you think?
po 💡a loan, but instead of paying it back, you pay it forward
I'd seen this "Are we the Baddies?" comedy sketch multiple times, but didn't actually realize until I saw a photo in an article today that those hats with the skulls on them are *actually* what SS hats looked like! 💀😮 youtube.com/watch?v=hn1Vxa…
(Fwiw, this was the article I was reading, about migrations of SS officers to south america after WWII) history.com/news/how-south… (and here's a google image search)
Thread · Idea: a latency-proof remote music loop machine · 1 of 4 tweets
This video talks about physics limitations (speed of light matters!) a software tool called JackTrip that allows live music improvisation up to 500km apart, depending on the internet quality! And the comments have other suggestions. youtube.com/watch?v=Sj6Ij1…
Thread · Bohm on dialogue: defending your opinions means you're not serious
> On the whole, you could say that if you are defending your opinions, you are not serious. — David Bohm (page 48 of On Dialogue) This quote, I think, completely upends classic notions of what sincere, reality-oriented conversation looks like.
In case it's not clear, he doesn't mean "serious" in the sense of non-humorous. he means something more like "real" in the sense of "come on, let's get real". He means the opposite of what it would mean for an actor to not drop their role when cast goes for beer after the show.
> As long as we have this defensive attitude – blocking and holding assumptions, sticking to them and saying, “I’ve got to be right,” and that sort of thing – then intelligence is very limited, because intelligence requires that you don’t defend an assumption. (On Dialogue, p40)
A couple excerpts from p39 of On Dialogue, on how it is that we come to the impression that our assumptions need defending.
p38. Scrolling up while posting 🙃 > if people can share the frustration and share their different contradictory assumptions and share their mutual anger and stay with it – if everybody is angry together, and looking at it together – then you have a common consciousness.
> Conviction & persuasion are not called for in a dialogue. > There’s no point in being persuaded or convinced. That’s not really coherent or rational. If something's right, you don’t need to be persuaded. If they have to persuade you, then there's probably some doubt about it.
Seems apropos to link this in here. It also seems very clear to me that Bohm is an early metamodernist (this was written in the 90s and specifically decries relativism etc)
Bohm is clearly tapping the same vein as McGilchrist here, and uses the same etymological breakdown of "Re-presentation". Light excerpts Bohm, dark excerpts McGilchrist.
Bohm has some really great stuff to say about how the left hemisphere (or as he calls it ~"thought that doesn't know that it's part of a thinking process that's having an impact on what it is they're perceiving") creates blindspots. I'd reco this book for
I'm sure I'll tweet out a lot more from On Dialogue, as I'm loving almost every paragraph and I want to read it again. Figured for now I'd just throw out a bunch of stuff that excites me! (@utotranslucence I'd love to read this out loud on Relational Exegesis!)
Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets
Mostly this thread is about David Bohm's book On Dialogue, but it's very relevant in general, and partway through I point out that he's saying something really similar to McGilchrist, regarding thought that re-presents rather than attends to presence.
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@jameswjesso I've enjoyed that word many times, and I'm enjoying it again here and now! 😉
@markmarijnissen basically it says "for each of these weekly reviews (1) look at each of the goal-sections (2) and for that goal's section of the monthly review* look through the row (3) & column (4) to find the ISO 8601 thursday of that week" *it'd be O(N⁵) if I hadn't done this one with a map
@AskYatharth Juicy. I'm into it.
@AskYatharth @reasonisfun, @m_ashcroft, you guys might dig this thread also @meditationstuff it's about shifting the generators start here:
@PavelASamsonov @thisisneer Ugh, yup. Now I find myself imagining a job interview conducted as a bohmian dialogue...
@kcorazo Nope, it's something else Can induce it temporarily in people, and it affects not just emotional empathy but basic perspective-taking such as the ability to draw an "E" on your own forehead in such a way that other people would be able to read it vs oriented to your own view.
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@danielharan @JeffreyASachs Here's a thread of nearly 150 (& growing) widely diverse examples, some of people with lots of power, others just random people who said something that wasn't acceptable.
@danielharan @JeffreyASachs I'm checking out the article you linked, and I want to be clear, my opposition to these sorts of tactics is structural and has very little to do with: - who's doing the cancelling - what opinions are considered "okay" or "not okay" (& "right" & "left" are messy categories)
@kmaustral @Conaw @RoamResearch Keep me updated!
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@eigenrobot @Slate Unfortunately twitter doesn't have a "shut this up" button, so this ended up in my feed thanks to your replying to it. Which is not to say you shouldn't post such things! But yeah, would be nice to have a way to sort of hush things, kind of like per-account reddit downvotes.
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The categories were made for man, not man for the categories. slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the…
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@s_r_constantin this is amazing 🚛
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This is the kind of systemic racism that keeps me on the Left & of the belief that White America knows it‘s guilty of l…
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The effectiveness of the CDC, FDA, NIAID and Surgeon General has not been proven in controlled studies to reduce death and dis…
@meditationstuff Daniel Schmactenberger talks about this challenge in this video. It's long, & pretty juicy. ~"Buddhism allows for scaled compassion—an incredible achievement—but didn't solve scaling coordination. We need both." youtube.com/watch?v=_b4qKv…
@markmarijnissen ISO 8601: "week N" is the week on which the Nth thursday of the year occurs en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
@primalpoly I put "stayed about the same" but I could also see an argument for "decreased" based on memetic evolution superceding genetic evolution and thus decreasing selection pressure on the human genome.
@coyotespike @SarahAMcManus has a thread about the challenges of discerning things like "what sorts of species are bad?"
@coyotespike @SarahAMcManus I really like James Carse's definition of "Evil", which dovetails with what you're saying here
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what she says: go 👏 to 👏 therapy what she means: i can see that you're really hurting and it frustrates me so much that i…
Curious what my peeps think of this! twitter.com/PlsRamdeep/sta…
As @AskYatharth points out, this is a great example of metaphor design:
@meditationstuff kinky
@AskYatharth @GRIFTGURU @existentialcoms this is one of my favorite comics btw @AskYatharth this is one of the things I was chewing on when I wrote this post malcolmocean.com/2017/06/toward…
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So--I want to do this with organizations! I come in, we work out what book is the most central text for your entire o…
Replying to @guyatthediner
@ThePerilousDeer You probably want ctrl+backspace. Deletes entire words and thus works in deterministic chunks.
why the phrase "mental models"? something about it has always felt weird to me… aren't all models mental? / aren't all mental models just "concepts"? is it like "mental math"? ie some models you have external to you to reference, but some live in procedural & working memory?
@lisatomic5 @ChanaMessinger I looked it up on google ngrams just to find the history of the popularity of the term. One thing intriguing about it (and I think related to my 🤨) is that the plural ("mental models") is more popular than the singular ("mental model"), whereas the opposite for "concept(s)"
@lisatomic5 @ChanaMessinger Like there's a thing where mental models are sort of treated like zoo animals, to avariciously collect, which is why they're referred to in the plural more than the singular. I think that's part of what I find odd.
Top painting: "Truth Coming Out of Her Well To Shame Mankind" QT: "me, climbing out of your phone to make demonstration that there is no fact of the matter" In this thread: < make up similar captions for other paintings/pics >
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I grew up in an illiberal society. Self-censorship was just a part of everyday life. On the other hand, long-standing democ…
@RobertHaisfield OOOOOOOOOOOoh man yeah I also want this. I have 4 roams I actively use, and another couple I use periodically.
don't stand under something you don't understand
@matthan @RobertHaisfield Absofuckinglutely stick to one if you can. My four are: 1. Private/personal 2. Public - intertwingled.blog 3. @CompliceGoals team 4. Another team
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@context_ing I have had my office in my bedroom for basically my whole life, and a relatively new innovation is having a Bluetooth keyboard next to my bed so I can type from across the room while chilling. Gotta zoom in ofc. (It's also my main way to sit & type, since standing desk only.)
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The conventions and social technologies your culture provides(like “getting married”, “starting a company”) can be seen…
@the_aiju @meditationstuff do a Kegan stand!