Happy New Year! (from Nova Scotia where I'm visiting my family, which is 1h east of Eastern Time)
January 2022
@piva_jonas Mmm nice :) My grandfather lived up on the hill in Chester when I was young and we would go visit him once or twice a year there. Fond memories of running around with my cousins in his front yard.
@carmenleelau @SarahAMcManus did you know plants do this? 😮🌿
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This is the best app I installed in 2021 - simply don't do anything of import without answering these questions, especially…
this thread resonates with a bunch of what I've been seeing from @meditationstuff and others around learning to listen to precisely what your body wants to eat
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lesson here: anything you do - however mediocre, tedious, clunky, imperfect - can be a stepping stone, a foundation, a spring…
@magicianbrain @meditationstuff "chemicals" mechanistically vague does seem like a good way to articulate the problem here
@RichDecibels it's rabbit holes all the way down
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useful example
what flowers are you planting for 2022?
man every time I'm doing GCIs I'm just so struck by how beautiful it is to see peoples' lists of goals written out 🤩 love to see peoples' meaningful aspirations, their visions for what they want to achieve and who they want to be
@uzpg_ The Goal-Crafting workshops my crew runs a couple times a year. (We've got a few more coming up Jan 15 & 16 if you want to check it out! complice.co/event/plan2022…)
@123456789blaaa @visakanv Oh exciting! I've been getting excited about Georgism the last month or so as well and started looking at whether there were local people working on it in BC where I live (answer: sort of!)
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In 2022 I'm going to de-normalise everything. Now whatever you do you're a freak and a pervert
@stepheniscowboy I've been training for this for years 💪❤️🔥
@piva_jonas I never actually explored the town much! we would mostly hang out at my grandad's. tho I'm sure I'd still recognize it if I drove into town
@nickcammarata @m_ashcroft got a "de dicto"/"de re" confusion here pretty sure he wants to be "X units of happy" where X = "how happy he understands Nick to be atm which is very" not "however happy Nick happens to be, even if that is not much"
I've recently started appreciating & refining a concept of "neurotic" which is a strategy for caring about something that's based on trying to avoid various pitfalls or problems without a clear idea of what "good" looks like.
Pure love is dangerous but not as dangerous as when it's adulterated with additives
Which way western man? Log onto the internet 💻 Log onto the fire 🔥
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@djmicrobeads I use google docs because then it's autosync'd to other places and it has a bunch of other great features (and a smaller default font size than other things) also ColorNote for android is great for making little sticky note widgets for collecting ideas ongoingly about stuff
@djmicrobeads I love writing with a bluetooth keyboard on my smartphone
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Thinking about how this also applies to self-leadership. You can try to coerce yourself into doing what "you" want, or you can…
hey @joyurge this thread & excerpts are relevant to @CompliceGoals both as a company and in relation to goal-setting etc (can we run internal company communication partially on twitter? gonna find out I guess!)
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@abhayance hmmmmm
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This is SO TRUE & SUCH A FAIR criticism & i am SO SORRY, I know y'all want me to feed y'all new material to sustain your hun…
Listening to 2 people in their 60s or older talking about travelling during covid and at this point not being really worried about being sick but just the hassle of getting stuck if they test positive, and test expenses etc.
Really good thread on RDFs although also describes the ordinary process of falling in love. This phenomenon of losing yourself from desperation can be symmetrical—no bad actor required! Listen to your inner voice when it says "bad for me"; but that doesn't mean "bad [globally]"
@darpyu These double binds are classic. Glad you have the chance to speak here about it and be seen and stay sane. If you have the emotional space you could try gently backing up and trying to point at the paradox. If possible, do so with humor, not anger.
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"I'm rational" -> rationalist "I vibe" -> vibrationalist?
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if you let go of superiority, watch as your convictions soften into preferences beliefs that I formerly thought were Def…
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as far as I can tell all groups are held together by Polite Fictions I can give you examples but only at the risk of loo…
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guys only want one thing and it's an ontology that contains only one type of thing
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I love Twitter when it feels like permission to share half-baked ideas with a few hundred creative collaborators cheering…
to me this seems like a pretty clear sign we're at or approaching endemic. let's keep masks in grocery stores til paxlovid becomes available everywhere, for people with high risk factors who want to wait it out a few months longer, but it's time to start business as usual
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meditation does not have to involve sitting down, you do not have to be still, you do not have to be quiet, you do not hav…
Found myself reading the wikipedia page for one of the topics central to my life's work. It's kinda incoherent: • half about wisdom of crowds/swarms • half summarizing Woolley's study on team IQ (collective intelligence factor"c") which I'd read already en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectiv…
Replying to @ElodesM
@ElodesM Similar thing happening with neurodivergence as a concept, though with a twist there.
@QiaochuYuan taking shitposting to a whole new level here
@pragueyerrr Factorio I find very relaxing if I play without biters. Just build your factory, it makes more stuff even if you're not doing anything. @LordChisholm may have other recos.
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Was musing, that we need a single word for not overthinking, but also not underthinking things, either And realized ma…
@MasterTimBlais @ngadgo oh *wow* youtube.com/watch?v=-pnBR0…
@MasterTimBlais planning to just buy this I think unless I can find a reason not to. what's your best guess of why someone might be disappointed with the psx3000 down the road?
hmmmm I haven't been keeping up on how many people end up with sequelae after getting covid this thread probably speaks with more certainty than is warranted, but it makes some good points
well damn, insurance companies are keeping track of this shit and deaths among working age folks are beyond-outlier up (40%) plus disability claims didn't have the sense it was this high (milder omicron may change this tho, for now) twitter.com/micahpollak/st…
.@m_ashcroft I'm rederiving the importance of Alexander Technique for mindset / non-coercion stuff, and it's naturally generating an increased habit of pinging the world every few seconds here's me thinking out loud about this if you or others are curious docs.google.com/document/d/1l6…
@m_ashcroft (just tweaked permissions on the doc from anyone-can-comment to anyone-can-view because I'd set it to anyone-can-comment before posting publicly. may require a refresh. if we're mutuals and you want to comment feel free to request such power!)
@robjpalmer @mattgoldenberg sort of a few ways to approach this Q, and many people have already said good things one thing I'll note is that it's very possible to get into a bunch of tangles trying to coerce yourself into non-coercion. you can make some headway but it breaks down messily.
@PrinceVogel yeah I am considering this too they're saying "not all reported as covid" and like, are we checking what they actually are and ruling out "definitely not covid"? for most of 2020 at least, many parts of Canada had more net-increase-opioid-overdoses than covid deaths
altho also this
fun puzzle 👇 in some sense, non-coercion has the potential to be just... better, which if fully understood generates a natural inclination towards using that approach however, sometimes we have compartmentalized understandings and the overall system is still based on fighting
it's pretty common for people to have a stage like this on the path, as far as I can tell. you bootstrap the new understanding by trying it within the old (coercing yourself towards noncoercive) until it can untangle the old
This blog post is an attempt to point at the paradox that can occur when you've realized that rejecting your own thinking process doesn't make for wisdom, but then you start trying to reject any thinking that rejects other thinking 😅 malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…
and this post is approaching the same question from a different angle: malcolmocean.com/2021/11/mindse…
@visakanv by adulthood I forgot this had happened but last year I re-read a diary from age 13 and at one point I'd written "I hate myself" in response to not having the courage to ask girls to dance
have you tried tweeting about the problem to find other people who also have the problem?
@MasterTimBlais hmmm yeah I don't think I'll have much of an issue with that either! that's such a weird problem to have for something that clearly so much care went into designing & making ohhhhhhh, maybe a leverage thing if the fulcrums are all super close
have you tried finding another problem to which your problem is the solution and vice versa?
that feeling when you see someone taking some precaution to avoid some risk and their precaution totally wouldn't stop the problem if it were actually likely, but also you don't think it's likely so it's like 🤔🤷♀️
@visakanv noice. if u haven't already, consider... 🎷 youtube.com/watch?v=GXPSQv…
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my silly-fun thought that I only half-endorse: people spend the correct amount of time blocking their own potential with bull…
@visakanv > “Why do you think you shouldn’t be having the problems that you’re having?” — David Schnarch malcolmocean.com/2017/11/transc…
interesting thread talking a bit more about what "endemic" means and what the implications are with that, including talking about the sorts of things done to manage endemic flu variations
@aroseinthehouse @123456789blaaa nice distinction! cool, count me among pro-LVT folks in a sort of tentative sense (I've only spent a few hours looking into it but it bears all the signs of an idea that will make increasing sense the more I investigate it)
this track by @aroseinthehouse is pretty cool funky electro rap aroseinthehouse.bandcamp.com/track/polandba…
@captain_mrs Whole complex fractal constellations but I only have a few main ones I'm tracking atm.
@AdamCElwood Close. Here's my half-theory on how they relate (in PCT terms not PP/PC terms)
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general principle: if you're working harder and harder at A in order to achieve B, but B doesn't seem to be getting better…
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i’m low-key annoyed when people dismiss my desire to be useful as like capitalist brainworms or protestant work ethic or some…
@the_aiju Very much with you
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the amount of deviance on display on my timeline is about two orders of magnitude lower than I hoped what are some of the we…
people who've done interview/dialogue podcasts, either as host or guest: what fraction of the podcasts were with someone you've (previously or since) had non-podcast-related calls with?
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@thetracebrady - @SwapstackHQ is the people I mentioned who are monetizing newsletters re doing advertising that feeds back into the creator economy
@RomeoStevens76 fwiw I'm kind of in the better-&-worse camp, and I'd love to have a convo with you to get an overview of how you're seeing things eg the climate stuff you mentioned in a reply because insofar as things oughtn't concern me I would like to be unconcerned!
Replying to @ElodesM
@ElodesM something like "what's even the difference between 'weird' and 'neurodivergent'?" I'm actually genuinely unsure how much difference there is, to be clear
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part of this is exploration is arising from realising that *wants* are a "fundamental thing" in the bodymind, conceptually…
@meekaale @CompliceGoals 😮🤩👍👍👍 Yeah let's do it!
@nickcammarata @m_ashcroft ah true, even if they're not intending to anchor on you that could still be destabilizing like it is any time a role model falls from grace
@ssica3003 😅 ur not wrong
@aladyonfire_ makes them special eggnog would be just as tasty at other times of year but you wouldn't get to be like "EGGNOG!" if it were sold year-round
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if you do not feel comfortable with everything in your awareness, your awareness will narrow till you are
if you do not feel comfortable with contradictions in your awareness, your awareness will narrow until it excludes enough to make there be no contradiction
@aladyonfire_ but again, important to not actually deprive yourself which is why wouldn't do this with eg the entire category of <chocolate>
@Knipps @DaltonDEmery @taalumot I'm using it because I want to vote with my wallet for twitter to have paid plans, not because I care about these things in particular. / because I want twitter to have more money tbh it's kind of like twitter has a patreon like obvi I would back twitter on patreon
@captain_mrs yeah not necessarily trauma in a deep sense but it represents some sort of conflict about how you want things to look otherwise you'd make them look that way (oh unless you think they should be tidy but have an emotional belief that it would be bad to do the work yourself)
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"normie" is really the wrong word for the concept. The problem isn't that they're norm*ies*, it's that they're norm*ers*. I…
@kenakennedy @lessin How's this coming along? 😛
@QiaochuYuan @russlramos @smallkewlhuman also we have merch, most notably this towel you can use for sopping up tears: society6.com/product/sob-su…
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What the fuck is this convention of telling people "Don't cry"? It's literally bad advice. I'm not gonna be polemical ab…
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Want to know if someone is an expert? Don't ask her about what she knows, ask her about what she doesn't. A true expert can ar…
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Barbara Fields on "white privilege": "Attacking 'white privilege' will never build...a coalition. In the 1st place,…
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So, I feel pretty in favor of the spirit of this tweet. But it is more true that you have an unalienable right to havin…
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we must remember the foundational principle: everything that people do makes sense, including a lifetime of emotional supp…
@visakanv okay I am back from my holidays when shall we do this? ideally spontaneously sometime we notice we're both online (coordinated via DM since I check notifs kinda intermittently)
it's 2022 and my music streaming auto-radios can't detect that it's nearly midnight and thus all songs should be increasingly chill vibes smh
@visakanv @nickarner more on this metaphor over here (down- and up-thread)
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best short form thing I read this week: Excerpt: "...Our concerns about process can overwhelm our concerns about truth, and…
Thread · Defensiveness, listening, and the enzymes needed to metabolize what others say
Wow, this is a really powerful piece about how communication breaks down when we don't feel safe listening to people who don't first pass a bunch of often-difficult or impossible tests. Very relevant to trust-dancing. (via @jim_rutt) frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-places-w…
I'd personally note that it's not straightforward to let down one's guard. I think it's an important step to *try*, in the sense of like, acknowledging at least in principle that the person is saying something you'd want to understand even if you can't metabolize the delivery.
Continuing the "metabolize" metaphor—@LordChisholm talks about this sometimes as "enzymes". You need certain enzymes to digest what somebody's saying. It's sort of a translation bridge between their frame and yours.
It's very different to have a stance of "I'm not really able to let in what you/they know right now without losing touch with something else I know" than "this person is definitely wrong & untrustworthy"
Brilliant essay on courage and defensiveness and how to relate differently to yourself to make space for learning. docs.google.com/document/d/1lc…
For more on how I think about this stuff, check out my writing on my Non-Naive Trust Dance framework: malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…
@radiolating @jim_rutt Yeah I think there's an element of psychological safety to it. "Is it safe to listen to this person without losing touch with what I know?" I wrote a short thread about that re this article: (Jim, this is relevant to the whole "meta-protocol" thing!)
Replying to @jim_rutt
@jim_rutt this second tweet prompted me to make a point of going to read the article, and I'm glad I did!
cohere, v. to be here together
the phrase "nearsighted" sounds kind of like a magic power and it makes me wonder if in ancient times it would have been a special role in a community to look at stuff real up close
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there are parts of my process or my practice or w/e you wanna call it that are actually pretty important but idk how to ta…
I'd been thinking of cutting my hair, not short but like, less long but then today's showerthought is like "wait if I don't have the patience to untangle my curls, I'll never have the patience to untangle the rest of humanity and the cosmos" long hair long game
this is the globalest situation we've ever been in
it's the reverb that gets me twitter.com/yellowjackie09…
@lisatomic5 @QiaochuYuan @nbouscal @visakanv while we're doing theories of everything, this is a favorite of mine that's related to top-down/bottom-up predictive processing puzzles:
@SunnyDisposish1 I think about it that way except when I'm actually doing it and then I find it meditative and helpful as part of the untangling of everything else
@KasraKaley yeah! it's relevant to "long game" although it was just a coincidence it happened to be in the background of this shot (I did turn slightly to ensure it was visible) raminnazer.com/products/happe…
@sashintweets nice! what part of the puzzle are you puzzling out at the moment?
@lisatomic5 @QiaochuYuan @nbouscal @visakanv ooh, another take: (actually a thread of distinct-but-related takes, from someone diagnosed with both things)
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anyone have any advice or other kind words to offer for an ol’ twitter mutual dealing with the aftermath of a psychotic br…
Replying to @cosimia_
@cosimia_ hey, I've been wondering about you and am glad to hear from you—both personally and it the sense that it seems to reflect some progress having been made hoping your moments of experience are workable in whatever ways suit you ♥️
@cosimia_ I don't have much in the way of resources wrt psychosis, but a friend of mine with BPD found The Buddha And The Borderline (a memoir) to be a helpful book for orienting. some aspects of it are kind of intense
@cosimia_ oh, this essay which I read recently helped me experience vastness without finding it scary might be helpful meaningness.com/no-cosmic-mean…
@pee_zombie makes me think of John Vervaeke's concept of relevance realization; similar paradoxes
@pee_zombie @DroidTactical @0x49fa98 @visakanv I went on a ramble about this awhile ago, inspired also in part by some stuff Anthony Wilden has written about sort of depends on your basis vector but there's something important about a kind of opposite that can cancel each other out
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to be clear, I'm not claiming to be enlightened or anything of the sort, bc this is a much more mundane sort of transcenden…
there's a difference between a perspective and an understanding some truths about the universe are self-evidently perceivable from a certain angle of mind but if you don't understand it, it'll be just as nonobvious later as it is obvious now
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this pattern is a manifestation of the same command hierarchy bias that drives the conspiratorial impulse; people tend to p…
@pee_zombie seems related to this, re parts & wholes
@pee_zombie @tasshinfogleman oooooh this is striking me as something I may want to explore I've been aiming towards something like feeling I'm dancing in each moment but in practice that's a bit too intense and Tai Chi might be actually the thing I'm looking for
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ze frank, first and best vlogger, had a concept called "brain crack" brain crack is that amazing idea you've been hold…
i will survibe
@MasterTimBlais okay I just ordered the psx3000! 🎹🤩 have been hemming and hawing too long, time to have some keys to play. will also force me to figure out how to overhaul my desk so that I can fit both my computer and a keyboard. thinking I'll need to make a custom drawer for my ⌨️🖱️
@MasterTimBlais the main other concern I have with the thing is the touchy buttons... I usually prefer hardware buttons but they do seem like elegant touchy buttons at least, like if you're gonna make touchy buttons it's cool that they are invisible when the device isn't on
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an attempt at visually describing my experience entering jhana from metta at @tasshinfogleman's retreat last saturday h…
Replying to @taalumot
@taalumot @phil__harmonic yeah I was like "this is me unless I am not checking my notifs, which is often"
Replying to @ElodesM
@ElodesM a few specific experiences, I think depends on if they also are, for instance
@DaystarEld yeah tho actual common enemy probably does work better than "you're a threat to me" which the virus causes
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@HiredThought @Meaningness this may be of interest to you
in my extensive experience holding space for people to cry sobbing is quite ugly no matter who is doing it and people being moved to tears is beautiful no matter who is doing it and being able to do both, when the moment is right, is healthy twitter.com/evelynharlow_/…
at first I was afraid—I was petrivibe
@mohamad_k_e @DrEugeniaCheng oooh interesting! can you say more about the book's premise or framework?
new year new sheet on my bookantt chart the chart where I track which books I'm reading by minutes per day on a given book helps me focus on spending more time reading rather than feeling like I need to finish books in order to count them template here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
@utotranslucence actually no! the title is cut off but if you look closely you'll see it's Mi not Ma:
@utotranslucence it's a good book btw! talks about a lot of the same themes as The Guru Papers, but sort of more directly and instructively the whole first chapter is about how to not gurufy them as the authors of the book, and instead to relate to the book dialogically
@visakanv @CompliceGoals header image:
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one of the fun things about having multiple simultaneous conversations on twitter is that sometimes I see a reply and I don't…
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i wanna hear from some newer folks who might be newer to "this part of twitter", might be shy to speak up, etc. what's up!! h…
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sometimes when i cry i'm like accessing a young child part in a lot of pain and that stuff isn't sexy and it isn't suppose…
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wow fucking hell guys did you know that when you're trying to get through your todo list you can just write down all of yo…
@QiaochuYuan I recently flew between some Canadian airports and things were at times sorta backed up but otherwise kinda normal, empty-ish airports. Everywhere has way more restrictions than usual. Risk of logistical mess is legit but unless you have tight plans then just call it adventure
@pee_zombie yeah that seems right
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me a few weeks ago: "guys. seriously. i don't need anything for xmas. pls don't get me something just bc you feel like y…
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also wow the co-counseling link above has some good stuff, here's a few choice quotes. interesting claim here that "discha…
@RomeoStevens76 @piva_jonas I mean that's a pretty goodhartable proxy I bet many of those people who think the world is getting worse still do expect global GDP to keep going up GDP arguably even correlates with alienation; famously, a woman taking care of her own child isn't counted; paid childcare is
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@the_wilderless there's one I'm not quite sure how to name but it's the main one for me it's sort of like "it was always there, just like mathematics, and attempting to figure the world out has yielded this as one of the things that needs figuring out and one of the ways to do the figuring"
I just realized you can have a twitter thread that has image/text that changes if you make it have a big previewed link to a page and then you change the title/image of that page (and force-refresh it using cards-dev.twitter.com/validator if you're in a rush)
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Complete ngmi attitude when someone tries to apply statistics to their life. Imagine believing the outcomes of the med…
@RomeoStevens76 @piva_jonas legit technically global GDP could go up without that benefitting the global 90% that much but it doesn't seem like that's what's happening so legit
@RomeoStevens76 @piva_jonas but on the gripping hand, money isn't wealth if there were a drought so bad there was only enough food for 5 billion people in a particular year, money can't solve that and my sense is the odds of such a calamity are increasing with climate change & supply chain fragility
@RomeoStevens76 @piva_jonas interested to know if you think that the odds of such a calamity are not increasing I haven't researched this in depth and I don't trust those GDP projections to account for black swans per se (though if you showed that they did then I'd update I guess)
@nolemonnomelon @Lithros I got Lachesian but I probably would have gotten this one if I'd put "Bard" as my DnD class instead of "Wizard"
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William T. Powers tell us this makes sense that this is what negotiation this, the only true alternative to inner conflic…
@AskYatharth more control actually very achieveable, you just need to be controlling your perceptions, not your behavior, and you need to be willing to go up levels!
great thread on PCT-based internal conflict untangling
very cool thread about learning & parenting and reparenting @LordChisholm you'll dig this
Replying to @mmasnick
@mmasnick @CompliceGoals @KendraSerra which two features? guessing one is the Now Page, curious what else!
Occurred to me that this old ribbonfarm article was probably relevant to my "refactoring my self-other boundary" project... and indeed, it is! voice mask, exit mask 🎭 ift.tt/3tvb8tY
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i guess you can imagine equivalents of the 'synthetic file' (like the tab-based files in TabFS) on top of other objects that yo…
@rsnous made up words are just as real as the rest of them but I don't see why "Recent" wouldn't have sufficed that's how ubuntu does it:
opposite of dominant?
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa I know it's a rhetorical question but it has at least one obvious-but-worth-saying answer: because you don't want to create the same world that you were raised in
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From your shadow's point of view, you're the one blocking the light
Didn't really understand my first wordle yesterday so I utterly failed. But then today pulled out this amazing feat (of luck, primarily): Wordle 209 2/6 🟨🟨🟨⬛️🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
How can we incentivize people not to goodhart? 🤨
@the_wilderless I came across an anecdote or two on quora or reddit of sociopaths on MDMA... seems it didn't do much but @TuckerMax has self-described as having narcissistic tendencies and found MDMA profoundly healing of the wounds driving it
@the_wilderless @TuckerMax his report: medium.com/@tuckermax/wha…
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth I have some sketches on this under [[Conversation App Design ("slack but good")]] which mostly notes that I want a slack-type-app fully integrated with a roam-type-app, so you can reference pages and earlier utterances in ways that can build & consolidate roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
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A tiny meditation invitation, if you'll pause here for a moment. Hi. Think of a dream you have. ☁️ A vision or project…
@QiaochuYuan @mechanical_monk @liminal_warmth yeah some discussion of [[omnitext]], including "conversations" as probably the right metaphor, here: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo… and here's related notes that also talk about conversation as metaphor:
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth @mechanical_monk you really really really would think that but people are really really really bad at questioning assumptions
@liminal_warmth @mechanical_monk I am very much in support of this idea btw and would love to help you extensively with ideation, metaphor design, interaction design, business strategy etc. (also cc @mayfer, @QiaochuYuan)
@RichDecibels @liminal_warmth say more about "swims against the current of the market" twitter.com/liminal_warmth…
Replying to @mmasnick
@mmasnick @CompliceGoals @KendraSerra ahhh yeah cool! like you were going to use the dots for something else/similar? I hadn't really announced it anywhere except in that forum comment; it's still very alpha
it me
@m_ashcroft @jonathandubin @ungatedcreative yeah I have the exact same problem as you tho haha (as described in the below tweet) maybe with our powers combined? I bring the emotional coherence work, you bring the means-whereby non-doing flow
@jonathandubin @m_ashcroft @ungatedcreative I just found this chart that references both AT and VIEW twitter.com/jstanotherview…
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TOTD: “Joy is the matriarch of a family of emotions. She won't come in your house if her children are not welcome.” - J…
hey @feeei I just saw your bio talking about cities & complexity and I have to recommend this really cool book I've been reading called Scale, by folks at the Santa Fe Institute I think you'll really dig it. I've got a very short summary here:
Replying to @HiredThought
@HiredThought @malcolmbastien it's all good, there are very few Malcolms out there (the main issue people make is forgetting the silent L)
@dumpstercommie @the_wilderless @TuckerMax seems to me like a sloppy use of the word "narcissism"; the fraction of people who are covid deniers is certainly higher than the fraction who are pathologically narcissistic
@RichDecibels @liminal_warmth oof. and so you're saying that basically an app that is optimized for not notifying you obnoxiously ends up losing? I knew it. We're gonna have to build a whole new operating system. (Or at least a web browser...)
@benpence haha you're the only person who understood that the question was sort of self-defeating 😅 it was mostly intended as a joke actually although the answers have been good, because in some sense it is an important question or even a deep koan the grokking of which will unravel much
@m_ashcroft @jonathandubin @ungatedcreative this seems pretty awesome @joyurge do you think maybe we want to try doing this course together? artofaccomplishment.com/connection/ (looks like this is the course that was formerly known as VIEW)
@ungatedcreative @QiaochuYuan - lowercase writing gang
Earlier today I set a new target of creating 100 vids. Then an epic song came on that I just HAD to jam to on my uke. I've basically never heard this song before and I'm still figuring out how to uke, but I wanted to share this Wooten energy with yall: youtube.com/watch?v=DzUlBj…
re what I mean by "Wooten", check out this thread it's about picking up the instrument and just starting to play, without any pausing to figure out what key the song is in no such thing as a wrong note
Thread · Developing a felt sense for scales at the keyboard · 1 of 7 tweets
I made a lil game version of this:
Retweeted @daemonhugger
I can make choices to bring about a sense of ease and play in everything I do. If something feels not playful, I can chan…
hey @ungatedcreative I want to work with you re non-coercive marketing etc! @joyurge & I are doing something kind of similar business-wise (grounded in playfulness) to @m_ashcroft and I could imagine articles like this one about our work! ungated.media/article/ashcro…
You'll probably get a decent sense of it if you check out our story on the team page: complice.co/about-the-team
See also this thread which talks about my higher-order philosophy for work, and the concept of "self-energizing motivation"
@daemonhugger I really like James Carse's take:
@acesounderglass @SlackHQ my best guess is that it has something to do with how the workspaces are siloed for enterprise security reasons I agree the UX is awful for people joining a bunch of casual slacks and there should be a way to store & pass just the tiniest datapoint: isExperiencedSlackUser=true
@TurboRational I'll go a little no-true-scotsman on this and say that it's probably very safe and likely to be net-good if done well (possibly with dips into instability on the path) but someone just trying "IFS" on themselves based on reading one article online or something might f u up
@this_is_silvia @tasshinfogleman whoa this makes me think you guys could do tag-team vibetraits, where Silvia illustrates the whimsical title created by Tasshin eg I'd love to have a drawing of this guy:
@haideralmosawi @this_is_silvia yeah also recognized you
mystery tweet on my timeline probably due to a glitch with my space-out-the-timeline-tweets userstyle
another really great frame on the dream mashup thing: twitter.com/megelison/stat…
Wordle 210 2/6 🟩⬛🟩🟩⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 I'm the king of the good first guess apparently 😏
@m_ashcroft @rmbalt @visakanv AT = Ashcroft Technique
this, but for teams
Retweeted @captain_mrs
I'm a big fan of @meditationstuff's book and my 4-word summary of it is basically: "Orient towards 'good'. Iterate."
thinking of online personal brands/images as being kind of like stage makeup even non-makeupy characters need to have makeup on in order to look ordinary from the back of an auditorium the bias of the photos we post (eg "hair down" for me) has a structurally useful effect
Retweeted @mechanical_monk
i've heard that social media maximize outrage because outrage keeps you on the site no it maximizes anything that wil…
Retweeted @captain_mrs
you don't have to start with a good plan(/rule/strategy/decision) if you know how to iterate in fact if you have a valid…
@captain_mrs @mechanical_monk @visakanv ^ relevant to our interests, re grokking the mindcity attractors @captain_mrs pointed out some interesting stuff to me that there's a sense in which it may be better that twitter isn't optimizing directly for sensemaking, as it provides a more general platform
hey @sashintweets, here are some recommended readings re @conversaculture (good suggestion, @metaLulie, that he talk with me!) 1st: Bohmian Dialogue (both a format and also a philosophy) amazon.com/Dialogue-David…
2nd: Conversation Café (mostly a format, but very simple low-hanging fruit) conversationcafe.org
man I thought I was a long-game guy because I have a 10-15 year vision (via @sashintweets) ted.com/talks/raghava_…
version control but for a psyche
@greigori_yang umm @SarahAMcManus this seems like very much your sort of thing!
@xuenay taken a picture wearing only a hat over my crotch, on an island that had an arch / hole through it (think cave but it comes out the other side) I'm not the only person to have done this, but my accomplice isn't on twitter 😛
@threadreaderapp hit me up with an unroll
"what if I die tomorrow?" is helpful for releasing narrow-view frustrations but is useless for trying to prioritize what to do with your life. You Only Live ONCE, not You Only Live NEVER. You in fact have to figure out what to do with your ONE wild and precious life.
Replying to @laughingblade
@laughingblade trying to figure out how to merge branches (this started as a joke but on reflection I actually last weekend realized that part of my bodymind hadn't realized I broke up with my first girlfriend over a decade ago 😅 needless to say, it was very confused!)
@IlIIlIIIIlIIIl yeah I grew up in the 90s without a TV and I remember thinking I would raise my kids without a TV, but that's just an incoherent notion now used to be able to cleanly easily separate TV (passive consumption) from computer (creative: coding! MS Paint!) but it's all a mess now
@IlIIlIIIIlIIIl this is important because our parents were able to give us a more creative environment to grow up in without having to *control our behavior* in any way. they just didn't buy a TV vs trying to "limit screen time" or prevent kids from downloading apps that are right there... 😬🤷♀️
loving concept of "modal confusion": 1. try to solve being mode with having mode (objectification, eg trying to get love by *having* sex) 2. try to solve having mode with being mode (spiritual bypassing = "too heavenly to be any earthly good") (@vervaeke_john➔@JimRuttShow pt2)
Vervaeke talks about how: having mode = I-It being mode = I-Thou in Buber's terms he doesn't mention it for whatever reason but I'm sure he knows these modes map onto the hemispheres since he's talked with McGilchrist in depth youtube.com/watch?v=JdB-BM…
@jim_rutt asks the excellent Q "what about doing?" Vervaeke answers: doing has 2 modes: work (having: real goals, trying to actually change something about the world) play (being: game has goals, but you don't want to shortcut them and just declare yourself winner)
so modal confusion here would be either: - treating a game like it has to be won at all costs - treating something that matters like it's just an attachment to be transcended eg Buddha referring to his son as "fetter" James Carse's Finite & Infinite Games is relevant here
I have the sense that @vervaeke_john & @m_ashcroft would have some very interesting conversations to have, as the Expanding Awareness stuff dovetails quite richly with a lot of what I'm hearing in this podcast
Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets
some quick connections while listening to a podcast:
that feeling when you don't know if other people have had that feeling
"the dishwasher is in fact the sink" is a sentence I just uttered and it made total sense in context
@visakanv whew, glad to resolve that one
@michael_nielsen I could maybe record a video of at least part of* my Complice weekly review! *a lot of it is too personal for me to share publicly Complice clusters everything you did that week into the 3-10 high-level goals that you're currently working on, to get an overview of progress made
@mattx1b seems like a v good hypothesis at least
@nosilverv was the first Yes; twas stronger before I decided to hitch some of my okayness to EA-related stuff & got into some major adult relational tangles probably partly compartmentalized but it was stable & great; I described it as "reverse depression" got worse, lately getting better
Retweeted @visakanv
sharing with permission from the DMs because I feel it might be helpful to other people IME, distractions, rehearsals, procr…
@this_is_silvia mmmmm yeah huh, now I'm imagining psytrance but with Sagan, Feynman, Hawking, etc, a la @musicalscience but a different genre oh! probably the way to do it would be to *remix* Symphony of Science actually youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84P…
@visakanv > and 50% of those are public what's "public" here? there aren't 50% locked alts are there?
Thread · Supporting Visakan Veerasamy's Twitter work via Patreon
I messaged @visakanv about tipping points on the scale of the entirety of twitter, and (ofc) he was like "I have a thread from 2y ago about this" because it's ofc a thing he's actively working on!
and there's a link to his patreon in there, which prompted me to observe that he could still use way more support for this project than he's getting so far
if you've been touched by [this part of twitter] and have money you'd like to turn into more of it... backing via on patreon is a pretty good bet imo (I've been backing him for as long as I've known he has one) patreon.com/visakanv/
other ways to help V with these dominos (beyond ofc focusing your attention and energy on what you want to see more of)
anything one tries to say is always about the whole thing, from a particular angle
@alex_here_now @visakanv yup. I'd say he's been working on it since about 2015 and I started working on it in 2017 although I didn't really realize how it all fit together (and the extent to which it was part of his strategy) until maybe 2018 or 2019 sometime
really glad tbh that I didn't unfollow everyone all at once. there's beautiful lil bits of continuity in the ~100-300 people I'm still following from the beforetimes (having been at ~1200 before I started the unfollowing)
@alex_here_now @visakanv thread of mine on the topic
rly annoyed at spellchecks that don't understand that Canadian English means "whichever I prefer of the American and British spellings, in that moment" color labour organize defence meter theatre
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF that might actually be closer to how I use them
@kalinh yupp was learning html/css at age 13 and was like "I guess color has no u now"
@daemonhugger in my case "sink" actually meant the opposite of "source" as in "the place something goes"
Lord willin' and the supply chain don't stall
Retweeted @RichDecibels
sometimes I write half a sentence and realise oh fuck this is going to take 5 pages to explain to anyone who is not insid…
numinality
@SunnyDisposish1 @sunofdopamine yeah I hide quite aggressively and I think it helps at least a little
@SunnyDisposish1 only half an answer, but in terms of seeing your feed independent of the algorithm, you can also use realtwitter.com (sort by latest) to get a less filtered view of who you're following (theoretically "sort by latest" on homepage does this too but not as good)
Retweeted @JakeOrthwein
Pretty blown away by the structural parallels between Mike's (excellent) Jesus thread and the way awareness is spoken abo…
really annoying pattern in my own workflows putting off looking at important stuff because I'm sort of in a mode of trying to clear things off as quickly as possible eg on a slack I go look at less-relevant-to-me channels because the relevant ones more likely will make projects
Replying to @michaelthaber
@michaelthaber here's the notes I took in roam while listening: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
Retweeted @natural_hazard
Motive Force In All Things is about moving deeper into fractal conviction and doing what i want with the full strength…
@MasterTimBlais Chief Enthusiasm Officer is the only kind of CEO I've been
@nvpkp this used to be me
hell hath no fury like me when customer support people transfer me in a chain that leads back to the first customer support person
I had an insight recently that Karpman's drama triangle (which I'd barely heard of) is probably more important & useful than I'd been giving it credit for hit me with: - your favorite introduction - a connection to another model - a pith-sized articulation of why it matters
Replying to @the_wilderless
@the_wilderless @madeofmistak3 you might consider the "mute word or phrase" setting
@MasterTimBlais 3rd answer I follow you but it was tagged with "♥ Chaos liked"; my guess is that that implies I wouldn't have seen it without such a like, which would sort of suggest 4th answer more accurate
@nibrasibn my "just" radar tripped here (I notice when people say "just do x"; sometimes it works but sometimes it's sort of trying to negate whatever deeper system is generating not-x; but if you hold both in awareness & try anyway, I expect you'll get some good learning exps quickly)
@tasshinfogleman ooh nice, yes, v good articulation
@reddy2go @daemonhugger everybody does not say it's a terribly written book half of people do I found it quite beautiful in a very unique way sort of like GPT-3 writing poetry in the style of a mathematical proof (or a proof in the style of poetry?) I found it very playful
Retweeted @daemonhugger
Rap name idea for @Malcolm_Ocean: Mal Commotion
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF hmmmmm this is helpful I'm provisionally concluding that trying to *use* the drama triangle frame is always going to perpetuate its very fuckery but noticing that oneself is using it (including implicitly, eg feeling "poor me") can be a path to liberation, *for oneself*
@HephaistosF but trying to get someone else to notice that they're in such a frame and break out is essentially enacting such a frame, which is almost always a weaponization
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF ah interesting, yeah, that checks out in that case I think the leverage point might be more about decoupling the implications of the noticing of the flags ("poor me" or otherwise) from the gaslighted response I don't know how to approach that exactly tho
@HephaistosF but it's sort of like if you came from a place where you had to squash ants immediately otherwise they'd reproduce but you're now in the place where squashing them causes release of pheromones that bring more, so the implications of "ant" have changed (ofc, how would you tell?)
@monoscient do I have to be able to sing lightning bolts?
@CXGonzalez_ sort of no answer, I've watched it grow up around me sort of @fortelabs, in the sense that wanting to connect with him was what got me back on twitter in 2017 in a more conversational mode than before
@daemonhugger baha nah it's all good! I like that you replied — it invited out the rest of the story
@Conaw @arminkhaya @SarahAMcManus @LordChisholm this used to be me a lot—so bothered by the *idea* of having been misunderstood that I couldn't slow down long enough to actually accept that I *had* been misunderstood and that if I still wanted to be misunderstood I would have to figure out *why* I'd been misunderstood
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@Conaw @arminkhaya @SarahAMcManus @LordChisholm this used to be me a lot—so bothered by the *idea* of having been misund…
for the record, one thing I attempt to do in these situations is pause & level with the person on the phone & be really clear "I'm not mad at you personally—I know you're trying to help me as best you can. I'm mad at your bureaucracy." idk how much it helps but it matters to me
if anyone, from experience on either side of this situation, has tips on how to bring more humanity into such situations, I'm interested I write down the phone person's name at the start and try to thank them personally (for their help or their time, whichever I got more of)
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF > you instinctively care more abt the opinions of recess ladies than abused kids I care a lot about your opinion, which is why I'm glad you reply to these threads. can't untangle the whole thing if I'm only listening to half the people, and your perspective is particularly vital
@HephaistosF I have a hard time mapping my experience of the dynamics of the world onto the hate-&-spite-based world you described I am sure it exists and I'm sure I've participated in it and I'm also sure you're overestimating how relevant it is to my motivation
@HephaistosF note I said "my motivation"; I'm talking about the gears of how I work on the inside my model here is consistent with a model in which you experience most things I do as hateful/spiteful; it seems that being an invalid target for your dream mashup there is v difficult—I do try.
@HephaistosF (not sure if you've seen the dream mashups post but it's here, and talks about the "become an invalid target" thing in detail—I'm intending to write that piece up as its own whole post at some point with more examples) malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF I'm hearing you as saying that you only use the weapon in self-defense, and in particular that you have a higher threshold than most people for situations in which you need to defend yourself, which I believe still has the effect I describe, but I accept your justification!
@MasterTimBlais ugh, awful I called a bank number & they sent me to the branch and the branch said to call the #, so I did then when I got "go to your branch" I just handed my phone to the teller & said "you guys sort it out" took them 10min to figure out nothing actually needed sorting out 😑
81 open tabs. bonkers. okay, what am I actually trying to do? right, edit <recording> and send it to <person> gonna just shove all my tabs on another workspace til I do this thing, since if I try to clear them out first I'll be here all night
Retweeted @danmall
My wife has wanted to feature on her phone for a while where people have to let you know WHY they’re calling you, so I decided…
Replying to @groundedsage
@groundedSAGE @RichDecibels @jaycousins @this_is_silvia could illustrate this tee
another way twitter DMs are dumb if you try to share a tweet via DM, you put in the name of someone you've DM'd before (not their handle) it doesn't prioritize them in search (in this situation it's someone I'm not following) should also prioritize people who follow *you*
cool thread on collapsed awareness & computer usage standing desk crew 💪 (I used to also sometimes read balanced on an exercise ball a few feet away, scrolling with a bluetooth mouse)
Retweeted @visakanv
what I believe the therapist did here is accept the utterance (I’m scared I’m stupid) without accepting the implicit premise…
@fraserdeans yeeeaaah do it
@kunaaaaaal I often think of it as "tangles" & "untangling" "healing" is sort of right etymologically ("wholing") but connotationally confused given the current interventionist medical models (as opposed to the doctor's role being supporting the body's healing process)
Retweeted @RichDecibels
new rule: if you get to Thursday without making at least tiny incremental progress towards your dreams you have to phone…
Retweeted @RichDecibels
I’m pretty sure I know precisely what’s going to happen at vibecamp I don’t want to spoil the surprise, but it's such a…
@visakanv @deepfates I just bought a bit more
what's something you've known about for awhile but didn't really look into, then recently you realized some new level of its importance? (either from seeing something new about it or from an internal insight clicking into place) one of mine:
@UBC I saw this and got excited thinking it might be about Land Value Tax but it seems to be... the opposite? Can't just "control prices" directly. Supply & demand gonna do their thing. But you can drive prices down by making rentseeking not profitable. See astralcodexten.substack.com/p/your-book-re…
@UBC > to solve the affordability crisis, we should be looking at how policy to densify cities results in inflated land prices. That means the benefits of density go to landowners, not renters. Densifying cities is what cities are about. The issue is the land is too profitable.
@UBC The land is profitable because: 1. you can rent it for far more than it costs to hold it. property taxes are tiny compared to the actual value of the land to the public 2. thus, you can also sell it at profit since someone else will want to rent it for more than it costs to hold
@UBC > “[...] double the density of the land, suddenly that land doubles in value. All that advantage goes to whoever is lucky enough to own the land.” The trick with LVT is that the land is valued highly before it's even developed, & taxed at such rates. So no longer lucky to hold!
sass as a service
@utotranslucence what's bad about it? what happens when you do it? (Qs to draw out your thinking—I very much agree, as I think you know)
@augurydefier sounds like it happened to you? how did you notice it was transference?
@tasshinfogleman good sign if your life's work feels this way
it's a little known fact that while most of the universe has limited resolution—if you zoom in, eventually you reach atoms, quarks, and planck length—cauliflower actually goes on forever
@chaosprime yup what you need instead is the unkillable meta-vibe
too adhd to sign into my bank account it requires 2FA every fucking time and then it takes a few seconds to send the code and then it takes another few seconds to log in and by then I'm somewhere else then by the time I come back, my session has expired lather, rinse, repeat
@VibeyOctopus @visakanv Yeah it gets boring when it's just club vibes and not enough nerd vibes. Belonging is great but I'm here for collective intelligence and distributed sensemaking. Make a list of your big open questions and seek out people also exploring them, at other stages / from other angles.
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@VibeyOctopus @visakanv Yeah it gets boring when it's just club vibes and not enough nerd vibes. Belonging is great but…
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa Interesting that you're still most legible as jibabom founder. Wonder how much longer that'll be true for...
I mean, the ineffable ain't gonna eff itself
@alex_here_now Kindred spirit 🙏
Imagine believing that there is even a single instance of an individual whose traits are the mean on all dimensions
My buddy @hasgotmoves is joining twitter and here's my initial list of people for him to follow: - @m_ashcroft - @meditationstuff - @QiaochuYuan - @selentelechia - @natural_hazard - @captain_mrs - @visakanv - @LordChisholm - @AskYatharth
@hasgotmoves also check out this guide to twitter:
@hasgotmoves In particular also I think this thread would be a good place to start on a couple levels of abstraction. Will help you understand threading and will be of interest!
@the_wilderless The Louder part really gets me My dad also used to shout at his car's voice dial thing when it didn't work the first time.
@WilliamAEden 'sgot a whole framework, impressive
@visakanv Yeah I was about to comment this if someone hadn't already. You can do crazy shit with spreadsheets. I recently discovered you can search for a row in an entirely different sheet.
Retweeted @RichardMCNgo
The most influential people I've met are all deeply agentic, which shows through in unexpected ways. For example, instea…
@RichardMCNgo Yeah there's something about seeing in terms of attractor basins and leverage points.
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Retweeted @vgr
Significant discussion developing here. The right question at right abstraction level. I suspect original @alexisohanian quote is…
@hasgotmoves - also a thread talking really big picture about crypto
@WeftOfSoul RATIO'd
Idea: browser ext that pauses you when you go to twitter, slack, gmail, etc etc, and asks "what are you here to do?" and if you pick eg "send an email" or "search for something" it takes you straight there, w no feed, & a banner atop maybe I saw this...?
man, saying the obvious is great start a new thread or doc & just "tell it like you see it" I'm working on a doc this morning answering: > "How is collective intelligence different from individual intelligence?" ...a topic on which I have a lot of thoughts I'd never written up!
I think this is part of what @threadapalooza is about, fwiw. We spend a lot of time trying to say new things and it's worth taking some time to distill and clarify all the things that are obvious to us. Prime example:
@misen__ @nosilverv literally the book is Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain I forget the author's name
@BecomingCritter @strangestloop @hasgotmoves when is ours going live?
Replying to @evelynharlow_
@evelynharlow_ @jongold if I were just gonna hit x a bunch of times it would be easy, I'd just run killall brave-browser the challenge is that most of them contain things worth doing and in some cases even things that somebody is expecting me to do but with wildly varying time/energy requirements
Retweeted @impartialpim
yesterday I realised my putting-in-work comfort zone has expanded incredibly by an extended period of non-coercion. I lit…
thought of the phrase "precious time" today and was curious how old it is—apparently older than google ngrams remembers it's salient here that it had a little spike during wwii
Retweeted @FioraAeterna
i am not taking questions at this time
Retweeted @balajis
More like this.
@visakanv @generativist @selentelechia gotta add stuff like -from:elonmusk to clear out any bigger accounts you follow but yeah this is great
@wholebodyprayer @relic_radiation related:
wtf, some spellcheck thinks "relatedly" is not a word (in a desktop app in which I can't add new words to the dictionary—oh wait, browser too) linguistic prescriptivism is WACK wait, "prescriptivism" isn't in my browser dictionary already!?
@evntdrvn @MJPiercello @andy_matuschak if you've never tried loudly singing into somebody else's mouth, and them singing back, starting at the same pitch, then exploring gently nudging the pitch up/down to get tighter and looser beat frequencies right in your jaw... ...you're uhhh in for a treat
@TrossasaurusRex @yashkaf @NathanpmYoung @robertwiblin @abiylfoyp
of course twitter.com/robertwiblin/s…
@JimmyRis I am incorrigible
@visakanv if you haven't seen Austin's Butterfly you're in for a treat youtube.com/watch?v=hqh1MR…
Wordle 217 3/6 🟩⬛⬛⬛⬛ 🟩⬛⬛🟩⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 this was very satisfying. pretty certain that based on the letters I'd eliminated, there was only one remaining word it could have been for row three, and I found it!
@JimmyRis I wield cromulance
@IanVanagas especially tuning into livestreams you wouldn't watch repeatedly, clubs you wouldn't join clubhouse is great for this
@visakanv guessing this probably relates to the sense of who-one-is as relevance realization function
do we have a few people going to @tpotvibecamp who have first aid training? what if some people got first aid training in the month before the event? you could be the hero! (if we had actual doctors in our midst, that would also be kinda great)
what alternate timeline for your life do you consider most? "I often wonder what would have happened if..." eg (some of mine) - my parents had gotten into TCS in the 90s - I'd stayed with my first girlfriend - I didn't happen to be in the right place to meet <person/group>
@themodestokid Mmmmm ♥️
Retweeted @michael_nielsen
"Consciousness is contagious" One of the most striking phrases I've heard in some time!
let me know
let me see
Retweeted @quotidiania
Permission to want impossible things is important and precious
@meekaale You volunteered to help poke at Complice dev ops stuff and have already shared one useful insight! I love your "I want to contribute" energy there and with your Christopher-Alexander-quoting reply game 🥰
@coladaclan So I'll see you for some acroyoga then 💪❤️🔥
Retweeted @this_is_silvia
me looking for shadow parts to shed loving awareness on after reading @sashachapin's piece on Deep Okayness (and findin…
Retweeted @metakuna
Is there a name for the fallacy where people reuse the same classic example as evidence of a broader class of problem, when i…
"ghosting" as a specific new phenomenon is a result of chat tech making community more legible with dates & read receipts etc. if anyone can message you (at any time) nobody has a right to a reply from you (at any time) does it suck? ofc. but so does being told "go away" 🤷♀️
AlphaFold makes drug discovery first step take 8h instead of 1mo some repliers confused why that matters if drug development takes years answer isn't about overall time, it's about faster feedback loops & iteration
If you like that tweet you might like this thread, about different kinds of leverage points. I'm unsure if this example is #9, #7, or #6 (or all three!) ...curious what others think!
Weird and wonderful testimonial: "I internalized the power of the Complice way of thinking so deeply that I do it automatically, without even using the system" thread:
As @andy_matuschak put it:
@DRMacIver yup, very well put I was trying to highlight something about how the nature of chat as a medium DOES that equivalencing of relationships (phone did this a bit as well) if I'm not on fb or twitter today, only certain close people can get a hold of me! fewer if off slack too
@arvidkahl you might like this thread:
@haideralmosawi @devvnomad @arvidkahl I also have a thread pointing at how you need both goals & systems! (Although "plans", as in the OP are yet different and indeed you actually kinda don't need plans although you do need a theory of change, ie a model of why your system will do the thing.)
Thread · Notes on Vervaeke on rationality and relevance realization
Just watched this video with @LordChisholm, of @AnnaLeptikon & @vervaeke_john talking about reunderstanding rationality in light of relevance realization & the latest cognitive science. some notes/thoughts/intertwinglednesses in thread youtube.com/watch?v=c6Fr8v…
32mins: "you cannot optimally overcome framing effects! because the framing does often matter, because we are embedded in a social environment" "What matters depends not only on the numbers!" Relevant:
at 39mins they're talking about use of procedural rationality as a way to step back from a default response. My thought was "why not go straight for expanded awareness directly?" see @m_ashcroft's work on this:
41mins: self-knowledge as a way to debias This is good but you can't simply apply a correction. Instead ask "in what ways does this situation remind me of ones I know myself to be biased about? can I tell how it's different?" See [[dream mashups]]
49mins: interface theory of perception I'd say in some sense "there is no non-veridical", there's just overgeneralizations. Though this may be the mistake JV says the pragmatists made of "reducing truth to relevance".
53mins: stoked to hear a mention of Gary Klein's Naturalistic Decision Making framework. It also gets a mention in my Dream Mashups post, talking about how triggers & PTSD are poorly organized manifestations of how the brain is designed to encode wisdom: malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
@Coscorrodrift @RichDecibels yeah I've done a bit of investigation & afaict it has not occurred to him that this site could be a place on which to have conversations—he sees it more as a blog, I think see this search: twitter.com/search?q=from%… of which this tweet is most illuminating:
@Coscorrodrift @RichDecibels I tried opening up a conversation here about it but given that he is probably not checking notifications (or directly checking replies to his tweets) he presumably hasn't seen my replies. An interesting self-reinforcing situation!
@Coscorrodrift @RichDecibels "makes me wonder if the site should be continued" this is a hilarious take misparsed as "should we shut down twitter.com" but it's pretty clear from his other uses of the word "site" that he's referring to his microblog, hosted on twitter
@Coscorrodrift @RichDecibels it's such a loss that he's not more conversational on here, as this whole situation is one of the most beautiful chaords I've ever participated in
@Coscorrodrift @RichDecibels insofar as the idea of trying to talk to people on twitter is non-obvious to him and/or would be overwhelming if he tried, both of those represent flaws in twitter's design here's a guy with a ton of wisdom and all the site is inviting out is tweet-sized takes, not dialogue
striking how few mobile messaging apps have any way to send with the enter key of an external keyboard slack has enter-to-send, shift-enter for line break telegram has ctrl-enter to send, enter for line break the rest? nada
Replying to @gas_bitch
@gas_bitch ❤️🔥💪 fyeah lots of resonance with a bunch of elements in what you've said here, and it's very cool to see it all laid out in this way
Retweeted @made_in_cosmos
Oh, this is great! Feynman said that whenever he heard something new, he checked it against his ~12 most important ques…
are you on single-player mode or multiplayer mode? (as a cue for noticing the possibility of expanded awareness wrt people)
@neats29 Start by saying the obvious. Profundity & simplicity come with practice!
@natural_hazard it's really good Did you know the feedback is made of money?
@goblinodds I recently told one of my oldest friends that I care about him and will still be his friend even if he's down and feels like he's a fraud for not having achieved the things he'd imagined when we were teens... Made a difference for him.
@goblinodds I'm still trying to figure out what else there is to do here but that's the necessary starting point, as you say.
Retweeted @utotranslucence
On the richness of overwhelm: To me--whether or not I'm overwhelmed is the biggest determinant of how my psychic grow…
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth based on looking at this situation I'd say go ahead and ask for a refund it would be one thing if they said "we're not sure we can do it, but if you're down to experiment with us, let's experiment" but they reassured you they were the experts then betrayed your trust
I'm wary of people saying "you can just" because if it were that easy in some sense you'd be doing it already WITH ONE EXCEPTION: if the option is actually right there & easy but you hadn't noticed it my guess is that the intention in @m_ashcroft's tweet is: expanding awareness
@QiaochuYuan @metaLulie @goblinodds yeah "editing" to me implies: - an amount of control in how things resolve once you bring them into contact, that you don't actually have - a kind of overwriting that is impossible and would be bad if it were
if you feel like it would be a relief to not see someone's tweets again, I encourage you to mute or block them with no further reason needed. letting people make you uncomfortable is not a virtue
@QiaochuYuan @metaLulie @goblinodds "edit" is a metaphor. it brings with it a bunch of connotations, such as the possibility of deleting entire passages of a piece of writing you're working on, with no trace. I don't think the connotations it brings are on balance what we want here.
@AskYatharth yeah importantly, exploring discomfort on your own terms, to understand the nature of weakness etc is great cold shower experiment? awesome even intentionally engaging with someone you find difficult can be deeply fruitful but you don't *have to*, now or ever
@AskYatharth you do have to deal with *some* inconvenience & discomfort, but you don't have to deal with more than you have to, if you see what I mean
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
i have an old one-tweet guide to twitter which i still like but i am tempted to condense the “pith instructions” even more…
@QiaochuYuan @hasgotmoves - a couple other cool lenses on twitter
@kevinsimler whoa is this an iOS only thing? I only use web. I guess it's basically just lists, but pinned?
@madaastronaut And just because you saw something real doesn't mean you have any idea what the implications are
@nibrasibn Wow ❤️🔥
Retweeted @visakanv
whenever we have a disagreement, the first thing I want to understand is: how have your experiences have been different from…
Replying to @nabeelqu
@nabeelqu I have the sense you're asking some of the questions I'm answering with this post. It's not real, but also not fake. Form is emptiness & emptiness is form. malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
Retweeted @gordonbrander
Money approaching Kegan Stage 3-4 threshold. Subject-object shift imminent.
Retweeted @wholebodyprayer
A discussion of what is natural? In these times? In this state?
@GRITCULT "dao" is kinda cool, both aesthetically & in the "which cannot be spoken" sense but yeah maybe we'd be better off using @deewhock's term "Chaord"
@benskuhn my new apartment has a *very clever* smartass thermostat that afaict is way worse than a basic control system it's often found putting out heat when the measured temperature is a few degrees hotter than the set point 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ u had 1 job
@etiennefd oh wow
Retweeted @captain_mrs
an important skill in life is being able to partially describe a goal in a way that nevertheless clarifies what it'll look…
@visakanv @LordChisholm hit me with the opening of Baz Luhrmann's Romeo+Juliet with no context and it completely blew my mind he just said "do you want to have an experience?" and sat me down in front of his computer where he had it ready to go
@visakanv oh nice you have a Feb 1 showtime
@yonahsienna totally 280 chars are inadequate for the nuance I wanted to express sometimes people read stuff but with a kind of flinching away that doesn't take it in, just adds layers and what I mean by "relief" here is an embodied thing, not just "well that viewpoint is a nuisance"
Replying to @groundedsage
@groundedSAGE @hasgotmoves @QiaochuYuan Mmmmmm 🥰 And yeah, the onboarding process matters! Here was me getting QC oriented nearly 3y ago: (still some good stuff in there, tho lots has evolved)
@energy_ariana @TheAnnaGat @Prigoose @visakanv
@groundedSAGE @hasgotmoves @QiaochuYuan also right after tweeting that I clicked to the timeline and saw someone else who's new around here and maybe has some overlapping interests with you (kinesiology)
Wow I got an absurdle in 7 guesses, not bad. qntm.org/files/wordle/
@mesolude self-organized criticality is a really important topic this is the central book on the topic, but I haven't actually read it and I don't know how far it goes into some of the implications for human or cognitive systems (of which there are many!) amazon.com/How-Nature-Wor…
@mesolude I have a thread on the topic here:
@mesolude and here's a video someone from @QualiaRI showed me that talks about SOC in the brain connectome-specific harmonic waves wild stuff youtube.com/watch?v=jKAZCz…
Thread · A running collection of tables of contents I love · 1 of 6 tweets
Table of Contents for Per Bak's Self-Organized Criticality is pretty great shows how fundamental an idea he's got by how it applies to sandpiles, earthquakes, black holes, life, exinction, the brain, traffic jams, and economics
@captain_mrs got a 6
Retweeted @visakanv
focus your time and energy on what you want to see more of
gotta file some W-8BENs this year I guess since I had some financial engagements with American companies do I claim Tax Treaty Benefits? I know Canada has tax treaties with the USA, but I have no idea what to do about that
the other people at this party don't know that I'm pondering my orb
@coladaclan what sort of contract?
@nolemonnomelon people are still having sex it's been going on for quite awhile 🎶 youtube.com/watch?v=0ImRyP…
@bungoman handstand pushup
whoa, this is very neat perspective-taking as a key element of internal untangling
@Evolving_Ego probably a longshot and you've already considered it, but maybe a standing desk would work better than sitting?
@Evolving_Ego looking forward to seeing what you find!
ah okay, my tentative conclusion is that I got confused by the special tax treatments thing and basically I just need to say "I'm a Canadian in Canada, do your thing" glad I didn't pay an accountant $350 to tell me that
@VitalPixel age ?➔14 religious age 14➔18 spiritual age 19➔23 atheist age 24➔? agnostic...? ish? but while I used to be anti-religious in all senses, I've come to appreciate eg Vervaeke's case that we need to figure it out together, not just have personal spirituality.
@VitalPixel I guess another way to answer would be something like: "I'm not at all clear what question this is supposed to be an answer to"
@VitalPixel are the borogoves mimsy? do the mome raths outgrabe? 🤔🤔🤔
@VitalPixel I guess more seriously though it's sort of like I can't summarize my political beliefs in a single word either I have a bunch of perspectives on what leverage points might be on various scales, I place different votes depending on the situation, I'm not satisfied with any party
@QiaochuYuan @qorprate not sure how it happened for me but over the last few years I've come to have that word with that meaning available and it's super useful
not sure whether this is evil or good evil because disrespectful of people trying to live healthily/intentionally good because it reminds them of their commitment and the antagonism actually might produce a "challenge accepted!" energy! (photo from Jan 7, not today, fwiw)
this "neurotic" concept continues to be super useful last night at the end of a podcast with @EyalShay2 I commented "there's a thing that can make your conversations better *IF* you can do it non-neurotically, which is to wonder during convos what makes convos good"
"but if you only know how to do that neurotically, then NEVERMIND! focus on relaxing and having fun"
> You kobayashi maru the bottom game to get to the top game
so sad XMPP died trying to make a groupchat for 4 people piecemeal slack overlap one person doesn't have the latest signal one person doesn't have fb messenger or gchat at least one person isn't on telegram & I've somehow avoided whatsapp tho I think the rest of them are there
idk who needs to hear this but most concerns about being fundamentally unworthy of love are way more workable if you see them as being not about who you are but about learning how to create workable interfaces for being loved in the ways you want to be
me: slowly & steadily doing emotional work to untangle the parts of me that think marketing is inherently evil so that when @visakanv's ready to help people refactor their marketing approaches, I'm not all conflicted about it 😅
@AskJibran @visakanv it's happening! youtu.be/f9JuKzGy5yQ
First NNTD video (7mins long) Talking about this line from Rudyard Kipling's poem, which points at the core puzzle of the Non-Naive Trust Dance: If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; youtu.be/f9JuKzGy5yQ
@StupendousGrav1 @visakanv sometimes I do but the more I do the less I want to tweet and the worse my tweets are
Retweeted @nosilverv
Gonna call this art piece "The Function and Methods of School in Society"
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
this is your life! right now reading this tweet is your life it's happening there is no dress rehearsal this can be kind…
brb developing entirely new social technology for better collective decision-making to support the vast number of intimate partnerships I want to have
@m_ashcroft yo @m_ashcroft when are we gonna actually do this?
@m_ashcroft cool cool, makes sense yeah, that's why I tweeted about it—no rush, just wanted to not forget
@visakanv @StupendousGrav1 on tonight's coaching session @LordChisholm: "what *is* marketing?" me: "doing stuff to make the number go up" (... = part of why it feels bad, because I can only succeed if I change people's behavior?) but yeah it hadn't really occurred to me to call it something else!
@visakanv @StupendousGrav1 @LordChisholm but I do think there's something weird about trying to make the [customer] number go up, directly, that'd be there no matter what I call it eg my current x/100 video project idea came from thinking that might help Complice, but I'm doing it for its own much more immediate joys
Off the top of my head, some lenses that feel better than "marketing", for what I might want to do to grow Complice's customer base: 🕸️ creating more surface area 🤯 blowing people's minds 😉 business flirting
Oooh. A few years ago I asked myself "what underlying message do I want people to get from using Complice?" and the below tweet was what I came up with. So another lens could be: ❤️🔥 sharing this energy
Thread · Upward spirals of ideas and why quote tweets enable convergence · 1 of 14 tweets
I now have a blog post outlining a proposal for multi-quote-tweet / MultiQT—I think it'll be totally game-changing: malcolmocean.com/2021/11/twitte…
@RichDecibels @m_ashcroft yeah! it's been very powerful for me, and we're just getting started you can check out some of its evolution here:
@trishanthdiwate 🤣🤣🤣 sometimes the way to do it is to break altogether and try something like FLOWS to get rid of a bunch at once
@visakanv "business flirting" as words is awful but the meaning in myself I'm locating with it is quite good "business seduction" might actually be closer but I have a somewhat idiosyncratic & generalized meaning/theory of seduction that fits particularly well here
@ElodesNL @visakanv I agree wrt individual well-targeted advertisements, but: A) Facebook has been doing some major antitrust shit with google re ad market price fixing B) ad-based revenue models create bad incentives, for businesses to optimize for addictiveness rather than anything else
My best attempt at a metric for how active someone is on complice.co on a given day, that's worth maximizing (at least sometimes) Obviously can't use total minutes/day for a productivity/intentionality app—you want to be actually doing stuff elsewhere mostly!
Retweeted @visakanv
this is a mutuals-scenebuilding utterance-crafting workshop tweet: what's a short-ish phrase from someone around here that's…
@visakanv Everything is monocausal twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
@daemonhugger Wait.
@m_ashcroft Take caffeine before doing something exciting, and see if your bodymind can learn to interpret the rush as delight instead of panic
Retweeted @captain_mrs
one of the concepts that I credit @meditationstuff with introducing to me is "provisionality". in a world of uncertain ch…
people wanna be funky more than they wanna funk
@tasshinfogleman @this_is_silvia huh looks like the facebook og:image is a headshot of you tho which I noticed when sharing a link of yours in fb messenger developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/?q…
any Complice users want to do a short video interview about their story of finding & exploring Complice?
Part 2 of this video (4mins) Explores the tautological NNTD axiom "You can't trust what you can't trust!" (& mad props to @visakanv for encouraging me to make some lil videos & ask people to comment!) youtube.com/watch?v=uanL3P…
impressively dream-mashup/schoolboat/NNTD-compatible response to transference 🤯 not deflecting responsibility for the fact that the person is having *this specific experience* of *you in particular* but then, after validating & reassuring that, explore meanings: "who else?"
@visakanv my remix:
@spiral_virus Coherence Therapy Practice Manual & Training Guide the whole thing is super good! 🤩 coherencetherapy.org/resources/manu…
@spiral_virus (I'm getting training in Coherence Coaching rn, which is like CoTh but coaching instead of therapy. same principles & methods though, largely)
@captain_mrs @AskYatharth yeah, this schoolboat: malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa @michaelthaber I got it last week! so far I'm pretty into it tho in order to be smol & slim & minimalist it uses capacitive buttons on the top instead of real ones 😑 but aside from that I'm enjoying it quite a bit. it checks all these boxes (haven't tested bitwig)
@fiddlemath @illiteralworst @liminal_warmth yeah desktop is just not for stuff. I know where to find stuff if I want to find stuff. tbh the "Recent" thing in ubuntu's file browser is probably where I find my files >60% of the time. usually the file I want to upload... is the one I just downloaded from somewhere else!
Thread · Working through a marketing block with coherence coaching · 1 of 7 tweets
"It's so important to me to not be trying to get people to buy my stuff, since it's bad to market your own stuff. It's fake—cheating. So I can't really do any marketing at all. I don't even want to! I just want to wait & get lucky, even if that means not making much money rn."
@visakanv @bubbleteaPhD I mean the original epic tweet was already v pithy:
@visakanv this tweet by @coponder really stuck with me; I've quote-tweeted it many many times
I co-sign this thread
@visakanv @bubbleteaPhD all perception is projection it's always relevant and always incomplete but sometimes you can notice there's a better projection like how you notice your dreams are made of strange mashups like dreaming you're at school but it's also on a boat somehow
@visakanv @bubbleteaPhD (I want to contrast this with something like "vs a dream where the school is in the building it's supposed to be in" and noting that you could be projecting your partner on your partner instead of projecting your parent, or something)
@visakanv @bubbleteaPhD I don't think it really got any pithier. I'm personally somewhat skeptical that anything shorter can convey the insight adequately. Even the original articulation is missing pieces that are vital for not accidentally weaponizing the lens.
@visakanv @bubbleteaPhD (I was actually missing those pieces when I wrote it, which is part of why I'm actually really glad it took me over a year to actually get around to writing up the blog post, so that the blog post wouldn't incite people into trying to wake each other up)
@visakanv @bubbleteaPhD at any rate, I'm appreciating the challenge!
Retweeted @eggprophet
aphorisms are the snowclones of the masses
don't give kids extra problems either: 😑 they already see a problem; empathize &/ help solve it (now or in future) 🙈 they don't see their problem; point it out 🤔 they don't have a problem, you do—tell them something isn't working FOR YOU & seek a win-win 🤷♀️ no problem twitter.com/darcyjae/statu…
Thread · Working through a marketing block with coherence coaching · 1 of 7 tweets
(this is an index card (for integration) from my coherence coaching session last night where I was trying to figure out why I'm blocked on marketing. feels fun to own it and tweet it!)
@the_wilderless @kory_kilpatrick this might interest you ^
@anesmithbeck what came up when I was processing is that it's like the same as when I first played werewolf and the very first thing someone said after the first night was "I think Malcolm's a werewolf" and I was like "how could I possibly convince you? you have no reason to trust me"
when was the last time you experienced the exquisite perfection of each moment?
new partswork technique just dropped twitter.com/gordonbrander/…
nice like-per-view ratio on my latest vid
Retweeted @DarbraDawn
I am asking you to fall in love with yourself, I am begging you to buy into how stupid and funny it is to be alive and to b…
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot I recorded an album a decade ago, of all original songs, played almost all the instruments, and did my own album art 💪❤️🔥 maleidoscope.bandcamp.com/album/the-mind…
@alex_here_now You can get the ratio way better than that, but yeah
jk (jk about the "brb" part—I'm working on this full-time and have been for years)
@SarahAMcManus @SunnyDisposish1 I think "lait de poule" is only the Canadian/Quebec version In France they probably call it "nog d'oeuf"
@prerationalist @LordChisholm - cool VR game
9min vid of me & @impartialpim talking about communicating with people about coercion (and why the word "coercion" usually doesn't help, whether or not the person is into "noncoercion") (a clip from our first conversation!) youtu.be/Oz9h5iJLy9U
this tweet from earlier today is very much on the same wavelength!
and here's a longer thread exploring an articulation of what exactly "coercion" is:
and for context or further reading, here's a thread of Pim's about his experience untangling his own self-coercion: twitter.com/impartialpim/s…
@meditationstuff whoa, 40 experiments? this seems extremely my jam I got strong psychoactive effects from the exercises in the PCT books
Retweeted @uthmanzi
Ari Delashmutt: "I think I'm just acknowledging that this kind of thing, trying to take this big world and cram it into our h…
Retweeted @russlramos
@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean @bubbleteaPhD what if you make it a song: 🎶 row row your schoolboat projecting down the stream me…
@russlramos @visakanv @bubbleteaPhD 🎶 know know your schoolboat projecting on the scene scarily warily merrily verily life is but a dream 🎶
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@russlramos @visakanv @bubbleteaPhD 🎶 know know your schoolboat projecting on the scene scarily warily merrily verily li…
@innerchildscre1 yeah (importantly there's also a whole thing about unconditional love being important and to the extent you didn't get that in childhood:😢🫂 (and you may want to try some ideal parent figure protocol)) but wrt other people, find ways to dance with them that both of you enjoy!
@innerchildscre1 it's a shift from "they don't want to dance/play/talk/etc with me because of some essential thing about me" ↳ to recognizing that they can't see your fundamental essence, they're just interfacing with whatever surface area you're creating for them, however makes sense to them
@innerchildscre1 now, some things you do might cause them to form generalizations about you, including generalizations that sound kind of essential (eg "shy" or "asshole") but that's all still a function of interface+their model any expectation of betrayal they have is about the interface
@ElodesNL u r a schoolboat
what's your generative central conflict? will think this through a bit more but I think mine might be: intensity ↔️ tenderness t.co/q2FDUQKGF5
I was vaguely thinking about this the other day in the context of how Land Value Tax makes landlording no longer profitable.......
Retweeted @xuenay
@Malcolm_Ocean @russlramos @visakanv @bubbleteaPhD Soon may the Dreamship come To bring us school and sea and run One day, when…
@gptbrooke maybe you're naturally spending time in a way that makes sense given that you have limited contact time and plenty of time to recover and you'd naturally spend time differently if you were around people all the time
Retweeted @made_in_cosmos
How weird it must be for a baby to suddenly have to learn that thirst, hunger, safety and feeling loved are all differe…
Replying to @ThanksThoth
@ThanksThoth if what you're doing is landing as love bombing I think it's less about "being nice" & more about some promise getting implicitly made that ur gonna solve their problems in some way they're desperate for.
@Jeanvaljean689 "just" lol
exquisite perfection of this moment, reading this Thich Nhat Hanh quote 💓
@maxim_eorr laughing ecstatic cointelligence
Replying to @taalumot
@taalumot what if they had people read Man's Search For Meaning? it would tell a story in first person but also with some bigger picture elements... (not quite *proposing* this; it may be a bad idea for all sorts of reasons; I've read the first couple chapters but not the rest)
@taalumot “Our generation is realistic, for we have come to know man as he really is. After all, man is that being who invented the gas chambers of Auschwitz; however, he is also that being who entered those gas chambers upright, with the Lord’s Prayer or the Shema Yisrael on his lips.” ♥️
@normonics things seem pretty stable in Canada to me, relatively speaking US has way more powder in the keg, literally speaking
me trying to figure out what sort of tuplet is going on in "crumbles when you are not near" from Macy Gray's song "I Try" by clapping looks like... 4 triplet-sized notes then a couple non-triplet syncopations the song: youtube.com/watch?v=WEQ0l_…
@rothosphere yeah, the classic Zeo would have had you covered since it actually uses EEG on your forehead I had one, it was awesome but they went out of business, probably for dumb reasons although most people wouldn't want to bother having EEG on their forehead vs works-ok ring/wristband
I noticed the phrase "equal opportunity" shows up in the lyrics of "Sir Duke" by Stevie Wonder so I looked it up in google ngrams (graph of # of uses in books) turns out Sir Duke was released at exactly the peak of this chart ('76-77) (I have no idea what that means either)
Retweeted @visakanv
psst: there is always a reason
@visakanv absolutely this is one of the most important things to understand I wonder what role "for no reason" plays in people's thinking here? could be self-dismissive but I have this weird feeling it's doing something self-protective as well
my boilerplate text is "here's my savvycal; if none of those work lmk or send me your own link" and I think this completely gets rid of all of the problems below while retaining the utter convenience of not having to do a bunch of back-&-forths (which can't be done in parallel)
Retweeted @LordChisholm
I'm not looking for a savior--I'm looking for a learning environment
Replying to @ellegist
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot it's expensive for what you get (unless also particularly tasty) but imx is pretty fun at low doses most people don't know how to do low doses tho or something? I just... stop drinking when I'm optimally drunk. maybe if you have anxiety the optimal point is way less obvious?
@mclegibilist @gpurcell I'm approaching 6k and still get almost none of this, so definitely other factors, though I'm not sure what.
Retweeted @Thinkwert
Goodnight, moon. Goodnight, tree. Goodnight, sleepy little cloud curled up on a branch of the tree.
@mormo_music there are a few I've mostly used gather.town but I think the post-GCI session was cozyroom.xyz
@maxim_eorr noice
goddamnit somehow I forgot I can do whatever I feel like doing right now again
@RomeoStevens76 just had some m'self!
@AskYatharth I had some weird resistance to the 2nd therapist I worked w last year basically my system didn't trust that he was steering right or would let me making course corrections but I'm not sure what it was about would have readily worked thru it with a friend, but not at his rates😅
@VitalPixel I've been starting with his 5-part series on @JimRuttShow since it's shorter than his >40-part video series 😅 but there may be something better
@ElodesNL @visakanv it's not that the ads are addictive, it's that the entirety of facebook is optimized for being addictive, to maximize the number of minutes spent on the site (somewhat true of twitter too, which is why I pay for @TwitterBlue, to vote for better incentives)
@SarahAMcManus I guess more words with A,R,E than without, at that point
@anesmithbeck I think it was the NNTD framework I'd been developing, for modeling how trust-building works intro: malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…
@StupendousGrav1 quite likely they were! though in this case I was *also* able to locate something I was doing that seemed to map onto it, that I thought it would be good to change for my own reasons which isn't always true
Thread · Working through a marketing block with coherence coaching · 4 of 7 tweets
had some open tabs pointing me at marketingy stuff that I was sort of holding open but feeling averse to so then I was like: ok, the thing to do is re-read the index card! (if you're curious: twas mostly this tweet 👇 and links to @martinstellar's stuff) twitter.com/s_r_constantin…
@martinstellar Hmm... the first half feels either not relevant or convolutedly relevant. 2nd half feels quite relevant. Marketing feels like work, bleh. What if I just wait long enough?
@martinstellar maybe the items from this other coaching session are also relevant? hm. I feel like I've worked through them somewhat
as I go through this I notice some appetite arising to do some sort of something in response to @s_r_constantin's tweet or something! ➡️ what do not enough ppl know about Complice? ⬅️ a twitter thread or youtube video? both of those feel like something I could maybe whip up
@QiaochuYuan @prerationalist paging @KasraKaley for a perspective from someone who's always had autocorrect
@strangestloop it kind of is one actually I have a subtle goal currently called Pray If Unclear, previously called Wait If Unclear, previously called The Thing which is some nebulous combo of: - do what I feel like doing - practice expanding awareness - practice untangling internal knots
@brother_nin I have recordings of me & friends; we're weird but most of them are very casual conversations & we record most of our conversations so we're not self-conscious about it. what kind of quantity/purpose are you looking for? not gonna make them public but could maybe share a few
"nuances, subtle changes in the flow of information are crucial" "what I realized was that I sat there and I listened. I listened and I transmitted and I analyzed... a little bit of detective work" "everything here is dedicated to communication" @visakanv youtube.com/watch?v=8e1g-0…
@terranlog @brother_nin mostly just phone apps to record & google drive to store. not great but gets the job done. I want to see a combo of gdrive+otter+soundcloud+airtable+roam for organizing them—I have ideas & desiderata and would be happy to support such a project getting off the ground 🚀
@terranlog @brother_nin I talk a bit about the why of my recording conversations in this podcast interview with @tasshinfogleman: youtube.com/watch?v=lrYVkH…
Thread · Facts about Complice, the intentionality app
> what's (legitimately) good about Complice that not enough people know? (from @s_r_constantin) complice.co is the intentionality app I built and have been iterating on for years. it helps people take small steps towards big goals thread of facts about complice!
complice started as entirely email-based. you'd email in your list of intentions for the day, then your list of outcomes at the end of the day. only later was a database added to record these, then a website, then login. intentions→outcomes is still the core workflow!
on complice, you have a list of things you can check off, called "intentions", but it's very different from an ordinary to-do list, since it's fresh every day if you don't do something today, it slides into the past, rather than staying on the list & growing stale!
complice is also one of the only listy apps that encourages you to log not just things you're planning to do but also other things that happened spontaneously during your day! you can do that midday (start an item with '+' and it'll be checked off already) or at the end
it's super satisfying to realize that a bunch of stuff you didn't even set out to do has happened and made some sort of difference re something you care about not everything worth doing takes effort!
what makes it so satisfying to add stuff is you can see what it all adds up to each intention is tagged towards whatever big-picture goal(s) it relates to, and then when it's reflection time, the progress is separated out by goal see what's 🚀 & what needs more ♥️
then there's weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly reviews they're all optional (unlike GTD where if you don't do them the system breaks down) and they're also based on seeing the progress you've made towards each goal & reflecting on next steps
that's the core. what else? probably lots of people don't know that complice has coworking rooms with video (& no audio, for focus) most of these are pomodoro-based 🍅 so that you can clearly chat during breaks but you can also make custom schedules! complice.co/rooms
complice not only has a hotkey for almost every feature, it also has hotkeys for at least half a dozen hidden features. I'm constantly testing out new stuff, and it often starts out buried under hotkeys, to a) not clutter the UI b) keep it not-discoverable while likely to change
complice is one of the only web apps I'm aware of that doesn't just have dark theme but supports: 🌜 automatic darkening at night & lightening during the day 🌞 (maximizes friendliness & readability at all times!) blog.complice.co/post/145832019…
I'm sorta tempted at this point to just name everything from complice.co/features but that feels outside the spirit of the original prompt incidentally, when I first felt into the prompt what mostly came to mind was just "random facts re complice", not per se *good* stuff
the random facts are kinda good tho! eg complice's day doesn't tick over at midnight everybody knows it's still "thursday" til either you sleep or the sun comes up & this is important since the daily workflow shifts modes when the day changes (defaults to 4am; can customize)
oh, another random fact is that complice has a public changelog, in the form of the @compluvi twitter account, which has tweeted nearly 2,000 user visible improvements ("UVIs") since the beginning 8 years ago
Replying to @s_r_constantin
@s_r_constantin I did a thread! a few quite non-obvious things, lots of stuff that's obvious to anyone who's been using complice but still not to most people:
Thread · Working through a marketing block with coherence coaching · 1 of 7 tweets
I made a thread! it was pretty fun tbh writing in lowercase made it feel way less like I was trying to Do Marketing (thx @QiaochuYuan & @ungatedcreative!)
@terranlog I would love to have one of these if you're imagining making a bunch!
Thread · Noticing someone's blindspot as unacknowledged control systems · 4 of 5 tweets
what it feels like to notice someone's blindspot is that you notice that their control systems seem to be controlling for something they're systematically unaware of impossible to be certain what someone is controlling for exactly, but you can notice what resists perturbation
concrete example: if someone always has an excuse for not doing something but they act like each excuse is just a one-off thing then you'll naturally sorta detect they have some resistance to doing the thing that they can't seem to acknowledge (to you, if not also to themselves)
importantly—don't assume you know anything about the NATURE of the resistance! it could be on many different levels of abstraction: - they might have a resistance to some element they falsely assume must be part of the thing - they might just not want to be told what to do - &+
@martinstellar I would wait because I have resistance to marketing that I'm trying to honor! I've been waiting for years, and I'm trying to bring that into consciousness by acknowledging it 💖 I'm not exactly sure why I'm waiting but I don't intend to stop until I know
@StupendousGrav1 yeah if you haven't already seen it, my framework on navigating these dynamics is described in this blog post: malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
@martinstellar to be clear, I am attempting to shift this, but I'm taking an integrative approach, rather than trying to "break through" my discomfort there's part of me that wants to do it, otherwise I wouldn't be talking/tweeting about it right now I'm making space for the part that doesn't
Thread · Noticing someone's blindspot as unacknowledged control systems · 1 of 5 tweets
this case study explores an internal example of dialoguing around something like this within this person, one part is frustrated that another part is mysteriously blocking doing something... the puzzle is how to create trust to explore why malcolmocean.com/2021/08/intern…
relatedly... I almost started this response with "you're being counteractive" but then I decided to just respond in more immediate, self-authored terms speaking from the sense that my own sensemaking makes
Replying to @impartialpim
@impartialpim reminds me of this video of Kelly McGonigal: "How to make stress your friend" youtube.com/watch?v=RcGyVT…
come on wordle, DERPY is a word...
@nickcammarata @Conaw @visakanv I noticed this the other day too! (fwiw you can see the exact number by hovering over, although I don't particularly recommend gaf)
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Great software is like great books this way too.
day-wise, decade-foolish
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destroy your imposter syndrome with this one simple question
@visakanv infinitudes of disobedient freedom firebirds
@visakanv a firestorm of learner library masonry
@visakanv enobled absurdity dreamers in many timelines
@visakanv nifty dandelions on a streambed
@visakanv fearsome ultrafeminine nebulosity eaters
@visakanv four dimensional brainstorm matinees
@visakanv I made this observation years ago when two friends I really admired wanted to start a group blog with me I was like 😳 but then I realized my imposter syndrome was incoherent in exactly the way you describe
@visakanv thought of this new one today hits totally different
@shakaz_ yeah, it's not just local maxima but like... smaller-scale maxima
a week or so of having a keyboard again and I have regained most of my ability to feel where I am in a key just by hitting one note
Retweeted @visakanv
me: we should resolve our internal conflicts somewhat also me: yet you participate in internal conflict. curious!
@QiaochuYuan @visakanv internal deadlock is a good way to put it yeah
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania wrt space-in-conversation-in-particular sounds kind of like "high involvement" ↔️ "high considerateness"
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One thing that I haven't talked about much publicly yet (though is a frequent topic of private conversation) is the vision t…
@gptbrooke resonates with the concept of ProtoB as articulated in this document: medium.com/@memetic007/a-…
I've been seeing a couple new twitter accounts pop up in the last few weeks that are beautifully diving into our nascent scenius here and chiming in with excellent replies. Who all is new? (to twitter or this corner or it) Go ahead & introduce yourself below if you want!
Retweeted @visakanv
In some ways, my life's work is abt assembling a sort of tavern for psychonauts, explorers, wanderers, vagabonds, tinkerers,…
Replying to @ElodesM
@ElodesM woah, so true! I never thought of it that way! but yeah, I think I have the same distrust inclination and... I think that's part of why people dunk on naval?
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@ElodesM a steelman for it would be something about saying the obvious, but I guess imx when I say the obvious people aren't like "so true" they're either like "wtf that's not obvious to me" or if it's a useful tautology "huh. how tf had I not noticed that?"
@AskYatharth "enneagram 5" is one answer
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania Yeah! I've found it really helpful as a model. I'm now quite fluent in both conversational styles, having grown up high-involvement then spent much of my adulthood immersed in a very attuned high-considerateness mode. They're both lovely and I kinda want everyone to learn both.
@BrianSaetre @sashachapin one way to pose it would be "do you ever experience procrastination?" or this thing:
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin without negating the idea that there might some fraction of people who've achieved enough environment-self fit to kinda just do stuff I would love if you asked the 10%ish folks if they ever procrastinate, or experience this thing:
@sashachapin I guess the quoted tweet explicitly says "because of some conflict/resistance" but there might be another way to point at it. Like basically do they always feel like they're doing something that makes sense?
Replying to @DaveCBeck
@DaveCBeck @Chiliandgarlic @sashachapin yeah the Perceptual Control Theory model points out that sustained external conflict (of a frustrating kind, not sports) usually requires internal conflict, otherwise you'd either: - just go all out and win - just find a different way to achieve your goal, without opposition
Healing from trauma amounts to learning that it is okay to 🤯 know what you know 😭 feel what you feel 😍 love what you love 👩🎤 want what you want ☝️mean what you mean 🤸♂️ enjoy what you enjoy without becoming overwhelmed, enraged, ashamed, or collapsed. (my remix of Bessel vdK)
@RichDecibels @euvieivanova I see your point. Though maybe clarifying: sovereignty of what? most mainstream memeplexes deny that we're the sovereigns of our own experiences, desires, problems, & understandings, and that needs reclaiming for ourselves and respecting for others
@RichDecibels @euvieivanova Obviously (afaict) all of those knowings, meanings, feelings, etc, are culturally constructed and can't exist in the absence of the context of other people, but if you feel something, you feel it—and nobody gets to tell you otherwise!
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& for a final assignment, please explain the difference between “i do what i want gosh” and “i am submitted to the imm…
@JakeOrthwein @Conaw @kevinsimler I'd be happy to join the Jaynes + contagious consciousness convo if yall want a third!
follow @azlenelza for periodic reminders that you are making a bunch of assumptions you don't realize you're making
@QiaochuYuan @wholebodyprayer I was gonna reply with something similar, then almost said nothing since you'd already nailed it then by some divine whimsy I decided to make this instead:
in human contexts, bandwidth is generally not limited by raw bits but by encoding differences (frames, assumptions, paradigms, etc) (both internal & interpersonal)
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NEW Episode of 'A Becoming Creature' out now I talk to @Malcolm_Ocean about the core of good conversation, productivi…
okay, show me on the diagram where he touched you
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ugh so i don't like p-values but i just thought of (imo) a pretty good metaphor to understand them ∴ i am compelled to…
@spiral_virus Hanzi Freinacht has an interesting take on shame as internalized disdain/contempt/ridicule. I disagree with him on some of the implications (I think all negative emotions are bad for steering) but the model provided me some useful food for thought. metamoderna.org/another-kind-o…
@spiral_virus I would in general recommend the Coherence Psychology Institute's stuff for grokking internal dynamics quite generally, though they don't have much specifically about shame. If you can get past the cheesy clip-art, this is an excellent simple overview: amzn.to/32O2hJe
Retweeted @spiral_virus
Hey friends, any juicy recommendations for a book/ article/ wizard uncovering the nuances of shame?
@spiral_virus re negative emotions as bad for steering, I go into this in much more depth here:
@spiral_virus and relatedly:
@redoatz @parafactual @bantablack I was thinking of doing this but then I noticed it wasn't worth the bother. glad people are though, this is good.
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Imagine how angry @imperialcollege are going to be when they find out what imperial means
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Amazing to see the actual moment when an institution is captured.
New video! Part of a conversation I had with @EvadeHullu a couple months ago, talking about connections between Coherence Therapy & Perceptual Control Theory (& its therapy technique, Method of Levels) youtube.com/watch?v=AigDi5…
Eva has a great summary of (and some extensions on) PCT in this thread and in a presentation the thread is based on that she links at the end of the thread. twitter.com/EvadeHullu/sta…
The part of the conversation *before* our recording involves us discussing her & Bill Powers' speculations about a potential 12th level to the PCT hierarchy... 🤫 ...which relates to Donella Meadows' "the power to transcend paradigms"
Replying to @incertaspecie
@incertaspecie @spiral_virus oooh great reco can also find lots of cool stuff searching on twitter (maybe filter:follows) for "existential kink"
@QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @drossbucket @m_ashcroft @metaLulie @goblinodds @mattgoldenberg yeah I think @QiaochuYuan & I are functionally making the case that we (& many others) have parts who reject the entire process if framed as "editing", even if there's something good about it, thus for such people a different frame is required for full-fractal buy-in.
TIL @nickcammarata is named after an Italian word for a small orchestra, ie a bunch of parts coming together to produce a beautiful whole. (some cool discussion of scenius here!) blog.atomist.com/the-origins-of…
Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets
an illustration I made to explain the difference between “i do what i want gosh” and “i am submitted to the immutable will of the divine”
@visakanv no I am A Monocle Clam
@visakanv (imo it's pretty important to have it be a full proper anagram, not just a phrase of subwords)
@visakanv you've got enough letters that it gets unwieldy, but this generator can say "must include a particular word" eg below it's filtered to include "savvy": new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagra…
@m_ashcroft @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @drossbucket @metaLulie @goblinodds @mattgoldenberg yeah it's super good. I haven't written it up thoroughly anywhere but here's a screenshot of my roam page [[full-fractal buy-in]] (and the backlinks contain some other notes & expositions) roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
any workflows that involve an experience of waiting (eg for something to load) feel fundamentally different than ones that don't
@DRMacIver @andy_matuschak people need to hire assistants/mentees instead of going to college, 18-25yos could be working for 30-40yos, learning a ton from the up-close interactions (assuming these people actually have a decent amount of money, not just enough to live on)
@DRMacIver @andy_matuschak an early boss of mine commented that vital to his startup's success was that early on they hired some co-op students (aka "interns") and then suddenly it was so much more real that they had to show up for work every day and set priorities
@DRMacIver @andy_matuschak you can make your own structure! (there are other ways to do this too; I would have failed at building complice.co if I hadn't (a) had a primitive version of the tool itself, and (b) had a few customers from the beginning)
@tasshinfogleman songs including songs I wrote particularly this one maleidoscope.bandcamp.com/track/that-phr…