Retweeted @DFisman
They are proactive, not reactive. When Atlantic have challenges, they predictably take paths not taken in Ontario (close scho…
December 2020
Retweeted @KelseyTuoc
The people proposing technological solutions to political problems were derided. But they have produced those technological…
@BasilMarte @robertskmiles @KelseyTuoc If you don't count cultural technology as technology then I'd answer "religion". And "memes" more generally. But if you do count cultural technology then I do think that's basically everything because it's all downstream of that in some way.
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Not sure if this is quite the thing but the complice.co new tab page plugin is very at-hand browser-wise. Shows you your top not-yet-completed intention for today. And in general with Complice, the list gets recreated daily so it's not a big stale vault of stuff.
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft Oh lovely! This is exciting. And lots of neat synergies can come from simultaneously doing work in different fields. Have felt the value for me of having complice.co while doing deep R&D into mindset and culture. Einstein the patent clerk. Feynman's spinning plates.
@nosilverv You should buy only: - Buddhism without Beliefs - the five wisdom energies one - the Todd Hargrove movement one
@sam_havens @the_wilderless @nosilverv Oh yeah if you haven't read Spectrum of Ecstasy I would recommend that before this other one on a similar topic I've never heard of. But I might check out this new one.
@Childermass4 @RichDecibels Yeah... Not too late to delete & repost
@Conaw @fortelabs Maritimers too maybe 🤔 (Grew up in Nova Scotia) Curious if this generalizes... @DanielleFong @brandontoner @GretchenAMcC
Retweeted @andy_matuschak
2020 version of walking around all day with parsley stuck in my teeth and no one pointing it out: ran half a dozen work…
@fortelabs I think @MightyNetworks may have tech for this but idk if it's quite the thing. They do let you have a network where members of the network can sell their own courses within the network, almost like you're running your own Coursera or Teachable or whatever.
hmm water towers are kind of like bagpipes
@Meaningness @ssica3003 I'm still laughing a year later 😂
Thread · How Burning Man permanently changed my dreamscape
My trips to Burning Man have been a permanent upgrade to my nighttime dreamscape. a substantial number of my dreams are clearly influenced by that weird context.
Lots of amazing mashups too, like the other night my dad was there in a tight blue+lime outfit, having a blast with his friends. And I just woke up from one where an old teacher of mine had read a book I'd asked her to read and was trying to seduce me into a convo about it.
And a couple years ago I had a dream where my mom *dropped me off* at Burning Man. Which is just… so funny, because one does not get dropped off at Burning Man.
I wonder if regional Burns were invented by people who had dream mashups of Burning Man + local biome... Because I've only been to that one famous deserty version (4×) but lots of my )'( dreams have trees or water or urban scapes.
@AskYatharth me
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Add like 3 more things that are made up and then say "at least 4 of the following are true about me" (This might be awful advice idk 😂)
Great thread. There's an art to being evocative AND precise simultaneously.
@nickcammarata Bruh not to tell ppl what they want but I'm pretty sure you don't want this. Lizards aren't snuggly—read A General Theory of Love to learn about mammals & limbic resonance. And ofc there's some great stuff in the prefrontal cortex if you can get your LHem in right relationship.
Might sound weird but if I were free of feedback I would have to give up my current mission (which I'm stoked about) because the whole point of it is integrating people's dissonance as part of building coherent human superorganisms. Would be super constraining, not liberating!
@made_in_cosmos Concretely though what I might actually *do* if this weird counterfactual occurred might be to try to publish all of the cancelleable takes I can think of, articulated as clearly & specifically as possible, since nobody could so much as yell at me about them, let alone attack me.
@snarayan @made_in_cosmos Yeah the sanity thing is a specific instance of a much more general principle:
always be prototyping
@Lord_Reynardine I've heard there are cultures where this is much less common - particularly shrieking. I don't myself know to what extent this is because the kids in those cultures are traumatized to not make noise or if they are gently enculturated to not need to.
@Lord_Reynardine Main book reco I would suggest for this is The Continuum Concept, which completely blew my mind in terms of busting assumptions about what parenting or childhood can be like, and I haven't even finished it.
@Lord_Reynardine Realizing you may not have been looking for advice or reframing here but sympathy/empathy, and just wanting to acknowledge that ❤️
Replying to @default_friend
@default_friend You mean "formerly Canadian"...
Retweeted @paul_hundred
@chaosprime Is the comma part of the quote? Then it doesnt belong in the fucking quote!
@chaosprime Fuck prescriptivism.
@donaldp1917 Not an anarchist & I also think this. I had an okay experience but was still traumatizing. It's kinda prison for kids, where kind teachers can only do so much and teacher's unions mean that cruel teachers can't be fired. School better than abusive home life. Not saying much.
Replying to @sn_fk_n
@sn_fk_n @Morphenius you'll appreciate this
@TristanMiano Was cancelled for 2020 because everything was (though hundreds of people still went to the desert that week) but they've raised some money to keep it going for next year (covid permitting)
This is gold. twitter.com/imani__r/statu…
"I pet myself!" Big Mood.
@RichDecibels @TylerAlterman you obviously want to be aware of this if you're not already
@visakanv then there's "I would kill for" which is a whole other thing
@visakanv @sonyasupposedly I'm maybe a lil consequentialist about principles haha I intend to do a lot of meaningful stuff with/about/from my principles over the coming decades, and I would have to be absurdly confident that my final act would do better than all of that to destroy those ongoing years.
@visakanv @sonyasupposedly I think in practice a lot of people pick a hill to die on and just... die... without any regard for whether their final fight had any effect whatsoever except for a momentary feeling of righteousness. (My suggestion would be to escape the hill-to-die-on metaphor, not surrender)
@Conaw @AbhayPrasanna @CompliceGoals Noice! Also apparently I need to look into SmartBlocks
@cortexfutura @CompliceGoals @RoamResearch @roamhacker I've been mostly offline for a week so I'm still catching up on what SmartBlocks are but a Complice user sent me a link to this article you wrote, noting a similarity with something I'm prototyping in Complice (press '/' on your today page for a demo) cortexfutura.com/algorithms-of-…
in most cases, when the bottleneck or constraint appears to be money, it's actually just a symptom of some other system attractor if the money constraint were solved, the system would either spend/gamble/lose the money rapidly, or generate a different constraint
@visakanv well, these tweets aged weird
@DiamonDie @gptbr00ke I think "metta" is sometimes translated in English as "friendliness" too, btw!
@gptbr00ke agreed with what lots of other people have said!
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa reminds me of that guy awhile back (~1y?) who stumbled into strangely earnest twitter and we were so friendly he thought we were trolling him and got panicky and aggressively/threateningly told us to fuck off trying to be nice triggered him further; kindly, we left him alone
@gptbr00ke This tweet kind of illustrates it:
@kevomics @eigenrobot buy crypto * this is my cached answer for how to hedge, no matter the context I am not actually loudly opinionated about this but I broadly do think anyone who doesn't have any cryptocurrency at all isn't adequately diversified
@Aella_Girl If there were zero spark, then my list of "all the things I want" is not actually a complete list of all the things I want, and some part of my system is protesting loudly. Would not take a drug to silence that part. Such a person might make a great biz partner though!
Replying to @default_friend
@default_friend People use really crude categories. But also eg, I just sat down at my phone to ~journal rn (w bluetooth keyboard) & considered where to write: - roam in chrome? - colornote app? - google docs? went w gdocs because syncs but doesn't lose place if appswitch competition on 1 act
Retweeted @elidourado
In emergencies, government agencies get extra powers. Sometimes that makes sense. But Covid has shown that sometimes it is…
This would be worth RTing even if it weren't for the hilarious tie-in to the current world situation. Lots to discuss here about framing, meaning, and how expectations affect perception.
@Aryeh___ @SarahAMcManus just said out loud "Aryeh's back on twitter" and I was like "oh fuck yeah! I miss that guy." Sort of a feeling of "friend is back in town" ❣️👋🫂
Find the frame from which there's no such thing as an overreaction. Something is making the reaction exactly as large as it is—and not larger!
@brandontoner If you want the rabbit hole, here's an entrypoint: 🕳️🐇
Retweeted @visakanv
@Malcolm_Ocean You can’t change the people on your timeline but you can change the people on your timeline
@collinofzion @SarahAMcManus @Aryeh___ West Vancouver atm but we don't actually know where we're settling—hoping to spend a bunch of time on the island (and/or the wee islands) this winter. Would love to connect with resonant peeps in the area, so hit us up with intros if you got 'em 🔥💞✨
@Morphenius @sn_fk_n this one really got me twitter.com/magickcharlie/…
@AskYatharth yeah it showed up fine
@nickcammarata ♥️ (also there's the whole thing where "limbic system" is "paleomammalian brain", whereas "basal ganglia" is "reptilian complex")
@houshuang Oh cool! Can you DM me your wife's name/email and which date she's doing, so I can update the spreadsheet to not just have two entries under your name? Would help our tracking on various levels.
@RobertHaisfield @DavidPerrott_ @SamuelSalzer @ProfWendyWood @bjfogg @visakanv Not central to your question but vital to have as part of this conversation - two totally different kinds of habits: routines & reflexes. I suspect ADHD may vary in its relationship to those. malcolmocean.com/2014/05/routin…
@RobertHaisfield @DavidPerrott_ @SamuelSalzer @ProfWendyWood @bjfogg @visakanv See also this experiment where I tried installing a new reflex-style habit every week for a year: malcolmocean.com/myhabits/
@RobertHaisfield @DavidPerrott_ @SamuelSalzer @ProfWendyWood @bjfogg @visakanv I think it's worth exploring trying to make behavior changes kind of arbitrarily, but inasmuch as they don't stick: - assume that they're causing some sort of error - introspect on which part of you is objecting to actually doing the new thing forever - and integrate its concern
@psobot @vulfpeck I believe it. I think it's changed mine just from watching the recording a bunch of times. Would love to hear more about how it affected you!
#ThingsIWantToExist - News Portal / News Time Machine basically a digital equivalent of looking through a pile of old newspapers (which, come to think of it, is an experience I often had, living at a house where we used such as liners for the compost bins! very fascinating)
Retweeted @CountJ0ecool
(This is probably my last top-3 most-referenced single tweet) @Malcolm_Ocean is probably my sty…
@brandontoner @Conaw @fortelabs @DanielleFong @GretchenAMcC likewise! (subject to this caveat)
Retweeted @AbhayPrasanna
@brandontoner @Malcolm_Ocean @Conaw @fortelabs @DanielleFong @GretchenAMcC yeah why take turns when we can just two-on-o…
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna @brandontoner @Conaw @fortelabs @DanielleFong @GretchenAMcC 😂 that's amazing, did you make it? (your caption & finding of it is also great, if you didn't make it)
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth ahh totally working on a roam integration that'll help with that
Retweeted @AskYatharth
What if I had a Twitter timeline that showed me all my incomplete drafts? Mindlessly scrolling, zoom zoom, until somethin…
@m_ashcroft @AskYatharth @Jenlky @jongold Yeah @AskYatharth make this happen so I actually do the course!
knowing how to do something and feeling like you don't know how to do it are not actually incompatible
@AskYatharth Yeah well-put. I've sometimes articulated something similar as:
Thread · Why you can't really choose a mindset · 6 of 8 tweets
choice is weird I get it re external decisions - choosing to get on the flight or not, to accept a proposal or not, etc but people often talk about choosing things like an attitude, stance, mindset, or relationship to something, and this feels off to me as of a few months ago
mindsets are by nature both internally consistent and self-reinforcing, as is (generally speaking) orienting to people coldly vs warmly and so if conceptually I know growth mindset works better but I keep "choosing" fixed, what gives? (or coercive vs collaborative mindset)
I used to think that the thing to do here was to try to "choose" growth mindset, but I now think that all such things are gaps in understanding. If growth mindset is in fact obviously better, it won't feel like a choice, it'll just feel obvious!
this suggests that if I feel like I have a choice betw these mindsets, then whatever it is that I've actually labelled "choose growth mindset" isn't actually growth mindset but a kind of shell version that isn't better than fixed & maybe even misses some important consideration!
likewise, I know in some pretty deep sense that having my heart open towards people closer to me is generally way more workable than closing it, but sometimes this doesn't feel safe based on various past experiences, and pushing past my own unsafety would undermine my self-trust!
in practice, one may need to act in the world "in the meantime", ie prior to finding perfect internal integration, and in this sense, there is a need for choice. one might choose to be kind, or patient, or something. but don't confuse making a "good" choice with non-doing
@AskYatharth I still think that in general suggesting to people to choose to feel differently can produce layering even if that's not what's going on for you internally choice is weird
@mechanicalmonk1 relates to a proverb "does it grow corn?" which I've found useful for thinking about this
@benskuhn ahhh haha that makes sense
Replying to @billy74919063
@billy74919063 @SpencrGreenberg the marketing dept wants to know the upper bound though - and that's probably how the person I asked in this case read it as well much more common question I guess
Replying to @cfowlerdesign
@cfowlerdesign @Social_Valkyrie @chriswaterguy @mattgoldenberg @Bazzaruto Yeah the last name I had before Ocean was relatively unique and not hard to rank #1 at but was hard to spell and pronounce and not very memorable which was part of why I changed it. Was a great decision.
@juanlanteri @ck_eternity_ @m_ashcroft @nickcammarata @JimmyRis 🙏 We're making this happen! (Still stoked for whenever we get the chance to video chat about what you're building!)
Great point. An understated thing I appreciate about Coherence Therapy is that it talks about the different parts' perspectives as "knowings". These knowings all contain some truth, or you wouldn't know them, and they also tend to be partial or oversimplified, & often contradict.
@CountJ0ecool mood
@WeftOfSoul mood!
@WeftOfSoul also if you haven't read this piece of writing, I think you'll super dig it
@AskYatharth yeah I sometimes get upset with ppl if they ask me to do something for a reason that I sense is bullshit, but if they don't try to justify, it often feels a lot easier—I feel a sense that they trust me to dignify their request without buying into a reason
I'd say this is candidate for best thread of Nov 2020. Very evocative imagery and points at an oft-unrecognized connection between play and dignity.
@AskYatharth Hmm, like, offering some reasons in exchange for respect?
@SeanMombo I'd say the 3 core things that I built into complice.co: 🎯 clarifying goals - what am I actually trying to achieve? 🌅 plan each day towards goals - keeps things fresh 🌛 reflecting daily & weekly re each goal helps avoid busywork because not tasks but purpose first
awesome thread on unlearning self-coercion and developing intrinsic motivation & a sense of abundance love hearing the evolution of @natural_hazard's process here (@SarahAMcManus - the stuff in here about slack is very relevant to some of our convos)
@jimrulezzz @visakanv is there even a "Canadian food" in other countries? the main things that are particularly Canadian are pretty weird/specific/unrelated: - poutine (gravy & cheese curds on fries) - donair (weird pizza variant invented by a greek immigrant) - maple syrup on wild blueberry pancakes
say out loud "pancake" & "pan cake". feel how the emphasis is different? now say "chinese food" like you normally would emphasis on 2nd syllable, yeah? not on 1 where emph normally'd be for "chinese" …it's a compound word! a single reified concept, not true "adjective noun"
@sokindling oddly I get "this story is chiNESE, it's a CHInese story"
I tweeted asking what it might make sense to do when I hit 4k followers and @juvoni suggested I hustle on pull-ups. I decided to take on the challenge but didn't announce it because I knew you fuckers would try to get me more followers 😂 did it tho! 211 pull-ups in 1mo
I'm going to retire the pull-ups thing from my name shortly though, for a couple of related reasons: - I don't have access to a pull-up bar anymore - I want to put something else in my name feels in line with my overall framing around this thing
feels related to @AskYatharth's "what does start-doing-the-thing mean?" there's a kind of implied social commitment from putting #/1000 pull-ups in my name, but I'm allowing that commitment to be simply what it is and not something more tangled
@AskYatharth maybe something about this:
@utotranslucence I guess the relevant thing isn't exactly the emphasis, but like, the question of whether the phrase feels like one thing in a way "Chinese boat" wouldn't.
@AskYatharth @CurziRose hmmm so still something to untangle here?
Retweeted @nosilverv
fucking ABOUT TIME i started incomprehensible msytical squibbles
Thread · The Goal-Crafting Intensive: format, coaches, and signup
Wow idk what's so special about December 20th but we've almost sold out that date's GCI workshop, while there are still lots of spaces remaining for most of the other sessions. complice.co/event/plan2021…
The GCI is a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! Tons of past participants recommend:
We use the term "goal" very open-endedly, so if you're like "hmm for me goals are associated with self-coercion" then don't worry, we can improv around that. It's just a tool for thinking.
Coaches this year include me, @SarahAMcManus, @utotranslucence, @hyponymous, @mattgoldenberg, @nosilverv, @AskYatharth, @olimay, @CurziRose and others who either don't have twitter accounts or who I haven't asked or confirmed with yet!
The self-paced content means you can work on whatever you want (including some activity that's not part of our content) and the personalized coaching means that whatever you're working on, we can help get you unstuck.
I've done a lot of threads talking about some of the concepts and frameworks we use in the GCI... probably want to make a meta-thread soon. I'll do a thread about the coaches too. Anyway, here's one such thread:
…and here's another link to the event if you wanna check it out and/or sign up! complice.co/event/plan2021…
Replying to @SpiralObserver
Replying to @savsidorov
@savsidorov @interhackt_ hmmmm sounds like co-lifing - @AskYatharth
@azlenelza @nibrasibn Yeah I was also very much travelling this past week, but what's demo day? Happy to check it out!
Retweeted @azlenelza
@shacrw_ Don't know if there's a name for this but there's a kind of "conceptual obligation". Like, if you write a book abou…
@azlenelza I'm having issues with updates.interhackt.space... the list of updates & projects doesn't load, and when I try to sign up (either google or email) I get this:
here's what happens in the console on the main updates page
Retweeted @mayfer
really hoping to launch the alpha this week. obviously not all the features are implemented yet. thinking it will be invite-on…
@visakanv @jimrulezzz Oh yeah "Canadian" is a kind of pizza like Hawaiian is, I was thinking about that the other day. Unlike Hawaiian where the pineapple is sort of an obvious reason why it has that name though, Canadian pizza is usually just mushrooms + bacon + pepperoni, or something like that.
@JasnaSeishin @visakanv @jimrulezzz Likewise haha. They seem super arbitrary, just like "weird thing this canadian brand makes". Are they well-ish-known in SG tho Visa?
@made_in_cosmos @snarayan Ahh good point. Yeah I guess in that case I'd find some juicy technical problem to fall in love with.
@mayfer I definitely want to check this out. have been thinking about better conversational platforms for years, both ones that would replace twitter and ones that would replace slack.
ahh fractally-nested arbitrary-depth self-governing channels yesss
@nosilverv just because people abuse talking doesn't mean that it's not awesome talking is for organizing thoughts (internally and out) for sense-making for ideating for play for beholding abstractions together for caressing or tantalizing each other with arbitrary fractal precision
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@nosilverv just because people abuse talking doesn't mean that it's not awesome talking is for organizing thoughts (int…
@brandontoner lots of emotional stuff, which sometimes is mostly about me and sometimes is about my relationship with the person I'm talking with
@thinkagainer "how do I love thee? let me count the ways" here's a song I wrote where I took that super literally: maleidoscope.bandcamp.com/track/how-do-i…
@thinkagainer the idea that you need to justify is a psy-op
idk who needs to hear this, but… You don't have to like it. That thing you don't like? That book? That person? That situation? That awful sound? That thing your partner/parent/roommate/kid does? You don't have to like it. You get to have whatever experience you're having.
@danlistensto @visakanv @jimrulezzz so fun fact: what Americans call "Canadian bacon" doesn't actually exist in other countries the only time I've eaten it (that I can recall) was when some people I was visiting in California thought it would be cute to buy some (there's also "back bacon") en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_bacon
@AskYatharth @theorangealt Yeah I think this is like, form within chaos though because of the self-governance at every level Whereas twitter is pure chaos and fb groups/slacks are chaos within form
@JeffLadish I had some threads back in April with some similar thoughts about the nature of complex systems, prediction, and redundancy.
Hm, curious what @uncatherio and @acesounderglass and @diviacaroline and my other friends who read papers and were bullish on Vitamin D think about this.
🤔🌈🙃
@xuenay @drossbucket @natural_hazard the basic thing every introspection tool needs - a way to handle conflict/resistance, including about the tool itself
@ben_r_hoffman @MilanGriffes @uncatherio @acesounderglass @diviacaroline also
Some comments about this from savvy folks on facebook are pretty skeptical about the dosage and overall protocol here, including this comment:
@AE_Robbert really puts the "complex" in "apartment complex"
Replying to @DaltonDEmery
@DaltonDEmery Great opportunity to do something like BioEmotive. Your writing here is already a start, but in order to integrate it you need to invite the part of you that actually still believes you're poor, into consciousness, so it can notice your current situation, and update accordingly.
@DaltonDEmery This might mean revisiting some of the memories from when you were young, of your parents fighting or whatever, and try to invite in whatever there is to be felt, and speak the feelings: "I feel scared. I feel alone. I feel helpless." Try it on, find out what resonates.
@vgr I asked some of my science nerd friends about this and the word on the street is that this is some evidence but way less conclusive than Isaac makes it out to be.
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna @Adyashanti this 👇 is the most clear answer I have experienced, to this question
TIL that Canada being the 2nd largest country in the world includes the areas of its freshwater lakes; if you consider just land, both China and the USA are larger. Canada has ~890,000 km² of freshwater—an area that would rank 34th largest as country. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c…
I've also been learning this recently. I have a ton of energy and it is a whole different thing to learn why I might want to channel it smoothly/gently/calmly than it is to try to compress it when it does. not. want. to. be. compressed.
Behold currently! You are entirely a star child! Begin your power! Go! Laugh!
@chriswaterguy Canada has ~2M lakes, many tiny and ofc many huge.
Retweeted @nickcammarata
Current feeling on meta-science: I’m not sure anyone — authors, readers, etc — actually likes papers. What if we just go…
@fortelabs Pre-ordering Zero to One got me a pre-release copy, which felt exclusive and exciting. There was a graphic that got cut from the actual book as they couldn't get the rights for it.
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft Oh man so true. I get meaningful feedback about Complice like this like once every month or two and it always deeply brightens my day.
Retweeted @RichDecibels
This sounds mundane but I promise life gets better when you learn to distinguish which of your sentences should start wit…
@drossbucket @pervexists69 @nosilverv Came here to say this.
@bimboubermensch hey this is related to something @uncatherio and @ben_r_hoffman were talking about recently
@reasonisfun similar vibe as this thread
Retweeted @visakanv
When you click on someone’s Following or Follower list, Twitter should prioritize showing you all of the people in that list…
@visakanv I learned a bunch of interesting stuff about this from Bernard Lietaer's Rethinking Money. Part of what makes currency legit is that you have to pay taxes in it. (on another note, I sometimes think or say "fiat lux" when flicking a light switch on)
@visakanv Further re taxes... even if you earn your income in bitcoin and somehow buy most of your stuff in bitcoin, you still have to live somewhere, and even if your landlord accepts bitcoin as rent, their *property* taxes are still in fiat dollars.
When I'm not dressing casual, I go all the way to Business Megaform or Business Demimagnate Hyperformal. From @shenanigansen's Guide To Dress Codes (in order of formality)
@thesravaka how about business megaformal sex?
Something people don't appreciate is the difference between accepting something and liking it. It's possible to feel disgust, fear, anger, etc, and to simultaneously fully welcome the feeling as well as its cause. And then of course to act to change it, if that makes sense!
@SarahAMcManus's go-to reference for this is a scene from TNG where the Data gets an emotion chip and tries a stiff drink. Guinan: Well, it looks like he hates it. Data: Yes. That is it. [...] I hate this! It's revolting! G: More? D: Please! 😄 youtube.com/watch?v=ok5l26…
Welp, due to a lot of factors, mostly logistical, I have not put together a MOAD screening for Dec 9. Feeling kind of chill about that, kind of frustrated at the nature of planning and such. HWA. Maybe I'll do something for later this month, maybe others will coordinate below.
Had a dream that I was being chased by young fit Ken Wilber with a supersoaker. I found a bucket and tossed a bunch of water on him though!
blacklight pill
I'm serious about this. I think there's a possibility in pill-space that reveals the darkness of reality while also making things fluoresce brilliantly.
Thread · Making all human interaction therapeutic, not just therapy hour
ppl don't realize it but most human interactions in our culture aren't just neutral but mild-to-moderately traumatizing... so in order to heal, we need to not just have an hour of therapy each week but to make cultures wherein all human interactions are intrinsically therapeutic
I used to underappreciate formal therapy, but now I see it as having a crucial but partial role to play. Crucial because people need healers with some distance & detachment from their immediate relationships. Partial because those relationships still need to become therapeutic!
Furthermore, Coherence Therapy and its framework describes how in order to unlearn an old schema, one needs to juxtapose it with a new knowing, and as far as I can tell this means that you can't actually unlearn Game A until you've seriously experienced Game B.
Having said that, now that I understand emotional schemas better, it's also clear to me that you can get remarkably far by just unlearning basic things like "I need to (not) feel certain ways or my parents will abandon me" or "I'm imprisoned & powerless"
or for that matter, the idea that standard schools are well-designed for nurturing learners and that if you don't like it it's you who has the problem most kids sooner or later learn to silence a voice that says "I think this is not actually the thing"
there's a bootstrappy upward spiral between: 💗 unlearning trauma-based & trauma-generating schemas 💞 creating cultures that are therapeutic 💗 enables more of 💞 enables more of 💗 enables more of 💞, ad infinitum
and having frameworks & examples can help the *idea* that there could be something culturally as different from Game A as Game A is from hunter-gatherer society is deeply powerful the growing subculture of ppl tweeting re learning self-noncoercion illuminates that possibility
Oh! Ofc, need to mention here that part of the dynamic here is related to the normal-is-functional fallacy, aka the DSM fallacy. Very liberating to understand one's personal healing process as part of larger cultural shift to actually-functional-humanity.
Part of why it's liberating is because it gives way more space to be like "I don't like this!" where "this" is the majority of human dynamics, without that making one misanthropic. A sense this is not just "how humans are" but contingent & changeable.
And this is one way to point at what I mean by the blacklight pill
is there a way to stop twitter from recommending topics?
@ben_mathes @posobin Yeah I think it's more this second thing. They don't need the money, but they want high quality.
@ben_mathes @posobin looks like their annual revenue is ~260B, so that makes this 1% of that which seems small but 2.3B is basically never something to sneeze at
@ben_mathes @posobin ahh but it's small enough that like, the $99 figure is umm... probably dwarfed by the nonlinear effects of having there be a fee that's about that big like if removing it made for more/better apps, that would be worth way more in terms of software & hardware sales
Thread · Commitment as left-hemisphere confabulation and treating behavior as coherent · 2 of 9 tweets
Wowwww this is so cool to read, because it's paradigmatically profoundly different from how I'm now thinking about things a year later. "not committed" feels like a completely confused frame to me now. now all about bottom-up emergence and treating all behavior as coherent
commitment is weird in the same way choice is weird (thread below) they obviously both describe real phenomena, but I now think that except in very narrow & concrete senses they're mostly left-hemisphere confabulation
For a first-person evocative version of this, see this tweet:
For a bit more elaboration of what this might mean, check out these tweets:
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna @Adyashanti Yeah! It's something that all of my parts can agree on, because they know they're not going to be borg-style assimilated and that their resistance is not futile but rather precisely the fuel for coherence.
@GRIFTGURU have you checked out existential kink
Integration is not assimilation. Resistance is not futile. Respecting resistance and finding a way to meet its needs without compromising something else is precisely the mechanism by which integrated wholes are formed. As Marcus Aurelius says: the obstacle is the way.
@brandontoner @uberstuber @Conaw @RoamResearch For me this framing integrates this particular tension:
@brandontoner @uberstuber @Conaw @RoamResearch
Thread · Commitment as left-hemisphere confabulation and treating behavior as coherent · 6 of 9 tweets
I could say that the phrase in the tweet below is something I feel committed to on a really deep level (I recently described it as my best answer to "what am I in service to?")
...but when I'm really in touch with that intention, it feels so fucking obvious that I want to do this that "commitment" feels absurd, like me committing to dancing when the beat drops. I don't need that commitment because wtf else would I do?
As with choice, my general sense with "commitment" is that if you're tempted to commit to something or say "I'm committed to X" then what this actually means if you're reifying an identification with one part of you, in opposition to some other part of you that you don't trust.
Huge value to temporarily trying on new defaults, whether routine or reflex, but when you don't do new thing, don't just recommit! As Kegan & Lahey say, agreements are not to prevent violations but to *create* them 🤯 without agreement, nothing to violate malcolmocean.com/2014/05/routin…
Assume it made complete sense in this situation to do what you did, from some perspective that you don't see. One quip I like to make about that is "otherwise you would have done a DIFFERENT apparently-senseless thing!"
Then try to find that perspective, and bring it in dialogue with your other perspectives. (to be clear, when I say "dialogue" here I mean Bohm's thing - it's orthogonal from using words. most talk is not dialogue, and attuned dancing or sex is dialogue)
does @visakanv have an onlyFANs yet?
this thread is some delicious warm dough from QC last winter was referencing it today as I donated $50 to Willow (new monastic academy space near Toronto!) and earmarked it for a new fruit tree! 🌳🍎 (here's their donation page: growingwillow.org)
@maybegray @visakanv just spent awhile scrolling through a bunch of search results and I can confirm I'm not the first one to *make* the joke
I posit that the main hurdle of awakening is finding a shape of creature that is fully you AND fully in service to God. And most struggle comes from the idea that these must necessarily conflict, whereas I assume I will not awaken until I've found a way out of that conflict. twitter.com/leashless/stat…
Replying to @leashless
@leashless Hm, say more?
@danlistensto @forgingtowards I think I'm gonna get the Adder because a 4K OLED screen sounds 🤩 Now mostly figuring out how much RAM & HD space to get. Oh, thoughts on warranty?
@EggProphet gq! this points at it pretty well:
@ben_r_hoffman @DiamonDie @BoylenBrian @jjfreydcourage I think I mostly follow all of it and resonate with it, although it's encoded differently in my head of course. Can see how you would have come to this if studying Girard&+ in relation to what you described you were working on as of 1.5y ago when we talked.
@ben_r_hoffman @DiamonDie @BoylenBrian @jjfreydcourage Main diff for me is a kind of figure-ground inversion that emphasizes a bunch of different stuff but I'm not sure I can point to that more clearly than "see what I've been tweeting about for months/years and emphasizing in those tweets"
@ben_r_hoffman @DiamonDie @BoylenBrian @jjfreydcourage Re similarities, it's very clear to me that the scapegoating thing & blame are at the core of what causes the issues, and it's necessary to shift to a mutual-causality / systems thinking frame in order to actually get out of those dynamics rather than continuing hot potato.
@EggProphet some people talk about capital-T Trauma vs lowercase-t trauma but it's not obvious to me there's a categorical difference there trauma is not actually a good metaphor btw. @meditationstuff's framing of "layering" is better (best source for that? there's rothos.github.io/protocol_1/#Cu…)
@ben_r_hoffman @DiamonDie @BoylenBrian @jjfreydcourage Yeah, I know. I love that stuff & am finding myself feeling resistant to doing it deeply in this moment. I think that's mostly that my attention is really fragmented this week, although given that I initially didn't reply to your messages here either, might be this-specific too
wood can be used to build a house or treefort but not a skyscraper in the same way compromise can be used to build a civilization but not heaven
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna ...I stand corrected lol. I'll find a betaphor. cc @DougTataryn @DoqxaScott
now I'm writing a piece with a working title "a general theory of seduction"
just found a fragment of my own writing that says "there are in some sense multiple people" I had forgotten to qualify it (eg "multiple people in this room") ends up basically implying that in other senses there are *not* multiple people #OpenIndividualism
@DoqxaScott @AbhayPrasanna @DougTataryn it was a typo, which I let stand!
@DoqxaScott @AbhayPrasanna @DougTataryn well, not exactly a typo I thought the phrase "better metaphor" and my hands came up with "betaphor"
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth @visakanv reminds of me last night I got thinking about a @CompliceGoals+OnlyFans integration, where a cutie records a lil video reading out your list of intentions for the day, with a tone of clear but nonjudgmental expectation that you're going to do them (as best you can).
@Rahul_Ramc @vgr this was the first one that came to mind for me! has been a sort of dream/backburner goal for me for awhile
@Aella_Girl found myself briefly imagining some of your followers thinking you're like 107 years old
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth see what u need is a babe lookin' at you each day and being like "how great would you feel if you went for a run and meditated right now?" 😉
@alexhughsam for brands, @dreev has a decent article on this messymatters.com/nominology/
@alexhughsam @UNDICTION has a bunch of spare meanings without words QT them with words you're coining for them and use # of likes as feedback for how much people like your word (noisy measurement but better than nothing) twitter.com/UNDICTION/stat…
@alexhughsam @UNDICTION ...the account seems to recently be more SJ/political stuff than the creative dictionary of words that don't exist it used to be though but if you use this search you'll get the good stuff twitter.com/search?q=from%…
Replying to @sarah_cone
@sarah_cone legitimate peripheral participation 🙏
@james_barton @liminal_warmth Mmmmm, okay. Wanting to fully welcome that objection (in each of you). It's part of how you know what is a fit for you, and not a voice to be silenced! (relates to this 👇)
@james_barton @liminal_warmth (You might get something out of trying to ask that objection what the actually-good version of the thing would be.)
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth @visakanv @CompliceGoals I think the main challenge would be mitigating erotomania 🤔😬 but that's an issue with anything even close to this, and people manage. ...yeah, I also think this is an actually good idea. Maybe this is part of what @visakanv was predicting.
@liminal_warmth @visakanv @CompliceGoals I could see a version of it as a Complice integration if you wanted a full-fledged complex workflow, or a standalone version that's much simpler. But the basic Complice daily intentions+outcomes workflow is actually kinda necessary to make this work, compared to just a huge list.
@liminal_warmth @visakanv @CompliceGoals Want to collaborate on making this happen? (On whatever level—I always have an infinity of stuff to do so if you wanna just run with it on your own I'd be happy to just share my thoughts when asked) @itsLuciKeller can be cutie #1 😊
@liminal_warmth @visakanv @CompliceGoals @itsLuciKeller fwiw, I think that your initial response to my suggestion of a babe nudging you to run & meditate is a sign that you have sufficient taste in this domain to actually make a good thing rather than a mediocre or shitty thing. twitter.com/liminal_warmth…
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth @visakanv @CompliceGoals @itsLuciKeller Damnit. Where do we find the people who don't have enough projects? 😆
Retweeted @visakanv
@punkarelly @maybegray @QiaochuYuan thought of QC earlier when I saw this
Recently hit 4k followers. Ummm... hi! 🌊 Feels like a lot of people and I'd like to get to know y'all better. Inspired by @QiaochuYuan, some Qs for you: ❓who are you? (interpret as you like) ❓why do you follow me? ❓what's a song that makes you feel more 𝘺𝘰𝘶 / more alive?
Great thread on the importance—and challenge!—of creating something better rather than just critiquing something existing.
many people say "you are confused, therefore you can't trust yourself." I'm saying "you are confused. you can trust yourself COMPLETELY and you're acting like you can't."
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia @liminal_warmth @visakanv @CompliceGoals "parasocial" was the word I was looking for when I found "erotomania", I think, btw
@brandontoner 💞 this articulation came from a convo with @joyurge about the topic of choice & commitment being confused
Retweeted @RichDecibels
I admit it is hard for me to take critiques of Elon Musk seriously while I watch the rocket go to space and then come bac…
@RichDecibels with you. I think it relates to this:
Retweeted @RichDecibels
Is there anything more ironic than trying to apply "Indigenous wisdom" outside of its local context?
@mattgoldenberg cracked me up. nice.
Replying to @dispirateparts
@dispirateparts orly? on main or this acct? I indeed haven't seen 'em but then I avoid my tl and notifications a lot because of attn mgmt challenges. feel very free to tag me in some of them :) <3
@natural_hazard v related
The feeling of fb messenger showing me who's online, at the top, is fascinating. People I was close to but I've fallen out of touch with. People I know I could call anytime. People I've friended but have never chatted with. People who message me too much. All one click away.
@m_ashcroft @visakanv @VajraVibe 🙌 (died my curls pink once)
@nosilverv > v tough and destabilizing to consider you are the baddie Totally. I've been developing a framework for grappling with this stuff without going crazy. Well, it's for many things, but this is one thing it applies to. Let's have a call sometime soon ♥️
@LeonardPauli @interhackt_ Just skimmed this and it reminds me of my experiences starting to read @Meaningness's intertwingly hypertext book meaningness.com, and trying to start a spreadsheet to keep track of which pages I'd read when, only to end up reading it in ToC order. Would have loved this!
Stoked to see this integrated with roam, including dynamic roamblogs where you can show up in town and easily see new and updated nodes in the graph and which ones are close/far from what you've already read!
Thread · My If By Whiskey take on If By Whiskey
My friends, I had not intended to offer my take on If By Whiskey at this particular time. But you have mentioned it on the TL, so I am obliged to opine. Very well: here is what I think about If By Whiskey. Thread 🧵 1/4
If by "If By Whiskey", you mean the worst of political equivocation, the vacillation that undermines the very meaning of conviction, the ambiguities that permit Motte-Bailey arguments and laws that are interpreted unfairly depending on who broke them… then: fuck👏that👏shit 2/4
But! If by "If By Whiskey", you mean the defiance of dualism, the capacity for nuance, the refusal to capitulate to simple narratives of good & evil… the importance of listening to all perspectives & steelmanning them… then, why, that is the very essence of dialogue!🤩💞🤯 3/4
This is my take—I will not back down; I will not compromise. 4/4
@acidshill @eigenrobot welp, this happened
@acidshill @eigenrobot wrote this without re-reading the original btw! just from memory (I tried to memorize the whole speech years ago but didn't get very far, but I've read it a few times in the meantime)
@acidshill ❣️ I think this is one of the most beautiful pieces of art I've created this year. Appreciate you inspiring it in the way that you did. I initially just started a QT that just said "you know, I really see if-by-whiskey in two ways..." and then I was like WELP HERE WE GO
Retweeted @SpencerKlavan
My friends, I had not intended to offer my particular take on If By If By Whiskey at this particular time. But you have…
it me
(for awhile. now I go to therapy, but I'm still constantly reinventing it)
Replying to @DaltonDEmery
@DaltonDEmery @michellehuang42 whaaaaaat amazing I loved A E van Vogt's The World of Null-A for its deep intertwinglement with general semantics, even though as a novel its plot is absurd and bizarre. Got me to pick up Science and Sanity again for awhile though, which continues to be an epic read.
@michellehuang42 @DaltonDEmery re problems with "is", I have found this helpful: so instead of writing a post or tweet saying "X is Y", I write a post saying "X as Y"
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa I'm remixing the concept of VC into something I want to do. Might end up being something you want to do too!
@me_on_the_web @pervexists69 main name I've heard of & used for it is "strangely earnest Twitter", coined by @HuanWin last year
@pervexists69 Yeah I recently hit 4k and I feel like "whaaaaat I am not that fancy, am I?" I feel like I see lots of accounts with <500 followers that post better stuff than me. Tried asking why people follow me and got some answers but still feels unclear.
@pervexists69 Maybe other peoples' stuff feels better because my stuff is too obvious to me.
Replying to @por_ous
@por_ous I have a rant about how existing technology is kinda shit for this
the exact opposite take:
@nateliason could easily add to desktop with a userstyle, something like body:before { content: "X"; position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; right: 0; font-size: 24px; padding: 14px; background: linear-gradient(#000, #930); z-index: 9000; text-align: center; color: #f90 }
@pervexists69 I'm also pretty seriously considering some sort of system to slow or guide follower growth.
@pervexists69 Yeah, my system seems incapable of paying for this though, even counterfactually. Went to a ~stripclub and the staff were ofc acting attracted to me but I was just like "this is fake; I am not getting real signal here about their attraction"
@utotranslucence Huh, neat. Hadn't noticed this but wouldn't be surprised if the algos were up to something.
@daemonhugger @DaltonDEmery @DarbraDawn @KenBearIsland yeah, blacklight pill—which ofc has purple aura!
@savsidorov @fortelabs I was about to say "I forget" but I thiiiiiink it was actually an Escher painting.
@p_millerd @rroudt Yeah, this only works for us because our courses are one-shot. A single 5h event. Once you have multiple sessions, drop-off rate is way too high, and having people pay up-front becomes somewhat useful incentive to get people committed.
@MarcKoenig_ @rroudt For our goal-crafting intensives (complice.co/event/plan2021…) we have both a PWYW & "market" price, & this seems to work fairly well. Sometimes people check during PWYW phase "what was the full price?" and pay that, also lots of other amounts, higher & lower
@meekaale haha I once tried hacking together a version of complice where instead of planning your day in the form of a list, you actually write it out as prose
@james_barton @liminal_warmth Yeah, and maybe the discomfort has roots in something really big that you're not prepared to connect with, and that's okay too. One thing that's been helpful to me is to say ~ "idk what your deal is, but I want to respect you and love you, as you want"
@DarbraDawn first thought: 2nd line in Jason Mraz's 5/6, which I can't type here because the wordplay only works out loud (it would get disambiguated by spelling) has a kind of double-meaning / garden-path thing youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-NrD…
@DarbraDawn @AskYatharth uberwench 😂👏
me typing to a friend: (idk if that's what Sarah was getting at) (she's watching me type) (maybe she'll tell me) @SarahAMcManus, out loud: why you do this? why you narrate this? you're not @visakanv on twitter me: bitch I might be 😂
Thread · Writing about GCI, meta-team, and the money question
Have been feeling a bit stuck on writing some more threads about the Goal-Crafting Intensive workshops that my crew is running over the next month, so I figured I'd just go meta and tweet a bit about my process! (kinda like a public captain's log)
Okay, so top of my queue is a thread about GCI + meta-team. That would be basically talking about how the GCI team is holding this year's GCI as being within this vision that I've been exploring around self-energizing collaboration.
Started drafting this tweetstorm a few days ago but I keep getting distracted... re-reading my draft now... Yeah, the draft feels like it's missing something. I was really excited about that tweetstorm a month ago but now it feels weird. What have I lost touch with?
....hm... the meta-team vision itself has been evolving, plus I haven't published everything I've written & thought about it (which itself is now partially out of date bc aforementioned evolution) but there's also something else: money.
I haven't in that draft yet, mentioned money, and it's actually the most manifest level on which there's something explicit to say about the GCI & meta-team vision being connected: most of the revenue from these GCIs is going to go into investing in future meta-team projects! 🤩
I think that's been hard to talk about for a few reasons, one of the main ones being that we really don't know much about what that looks like yet! I come from the "nebulous emergent group coherence sense-making" school of decision-making around money, so it's all still TBD TBH.
Us being able to do that is itself pretty exciting! There's now a core team of ~4 of us who organize & run this each year, and we've done various fluid things in relation to the money dimension in the past, and have been able to improvise effectively in relation to that.
(gotta go do stuff, gonna hit send on this much, will finish thread later)
@chaosprime @lisatomic5 baha idk if it's a new addition to the graphic but I hadn't noticed wojak dzogchen before
@lisatomic5 I probably used it this way ~2012-2016
@lisatomic5 oh yeah, tweeted about this (click thru for a couple more; this is the juiciest)
@RichDecibels I always found that phrase super weird because I've been a very non-awkward dancer my whole life and so it just seemed false when I first heard it. (Also grew up in a tiny town that was nearly 100% white.) But yeah, something something embodiment attunement europe trauma.
end mass incorporation
@sympathetic_opp I think first we need to
Retweeted @meditationstuff
meditator: I am prepared for anything, except for this, oh god oh fuck
memes only want one thing and it's disgusting
Replying to @MyBeautifulBub1
@MyBeautifulBub1 If by "note to self", you mean a coercive command to your future-self that you will guilt yourself into doing whether or not it makes sense, then I don't recommend it. But! If by "note to self", you mean a caring invitation & reminder of what's meaningful & exciting, then fyeah!
Retweeted @jacobsw
MC, it's your cousin Marvin. Marvin Escher. You know that new style of graphic art you're looking for? Well, here it is! [HOL…
@anactofwill @QiaochuYuan Can't find the track but that sounds awesome. Would love a link if you've got one! I remember my dad had the original (non-remixed) album as a record and as a teen boy I found the sensational album cover, well, sensational 😉
Retweeted @meekaale
my life is structured by two demonic entities the slurry 🌀 a swirling creamy rainbow where ideas and plans fall into and los…
@meekaale > I also want to make software that helps people (i.e., me) focus and care for their lives, inspired by self-therapeutic approaches and novel interfaces. Let's talk! This is very much a space of deep interest for me (as you may know) and I'd love to empower you however I can.
Slack gave me a notification "new emoji available" but it's the fucking alphabet instead of the standard emoji sets from Unicode 11, 12, and 13, like 🥰🥵🥶🥺🦚🥱 🥲 that other apps have had for years. Thanks, Salesforce 🙄
@pervexists69 yeah, meditation instructions tend to encourage you to welcome whatever arises, but they don't tend to include a way to answer the question "am I actually straight-up confused about what these instructions are saying?" @meditationstuff's protocol has more of this bootstrappiness
Be the differentiated yet integrated participant in the collective intelligence you wish to emerge in the world.
Wild that sometimes I discover a thing that's vital (practically *necessary*) for the work I'm doing, and somehow it had existed for years & nobody knew to point it out. Sometimes I wasn't ready, but other times… hm. What am I still missing? How would you know I'm missing it?
to be clear, usually by "thing" here I mean something like a book Iain McGilchrist's The Master and His Emissary is one great example Unlocking the Emotional Brain is another
Replying to @ThanksThoth
@ThanksThoth delightful 🙃
@mattgoldenberg my articulation of this point:
@ChanaMessinger In the limit, I think it is in fact the telos of basically everyone, but that doesn't mean it makes sense to be everyone's top priority, in multiple senses.
@ChanaMessinger I would say that I don't actually per se "advise" people eliminate self-coercion tho... I try to articulate a worldview that illuminates the impacts of coercion and the possibility of something else, and ofc inasmuch as people grok that, it'll produce behavior change...
@ChanaMessinger ...and inasmuch as people are *already* interested in self-integration, non-coercion, etc, I'm working to clear pathways to make that easier and more workable.
Retweeted @brandontoner
I need a *spatial* and *visual* tool for thought, with back-linking. There is a particular itch I’m trying to scratch f…
Retweeted @BecomingCritter
There are a lot of productivity services out there with a $10-$15 monthly subscription Do you find any of these to b…
Your existing to-do lists pile up and go stale, until you dread even looking at them and your passions feel like a chore. complice.co keeps you focused on your long-term goals, every day. Meaningful progress feels good. twitter.com/Julian/status/…
Replying to @Julian
@Julian here's an initial attempt before I go to bed not 100% satisfied yet but I'm glad I tried it out! curious to hear feedback/critique on it
Sarah: we're both 10% assholes to each other but our standard is zero Me: well... we're both really afraid, and so we protecc, & ofc protecc looks like attacc from the outside... that's the thing that's called "asshole" but it's really just extremely incompetent loving 🥰🤦♀️
@Aryeh___ @magicianbrain @yung_shishtov I love the word chavrusangha! I recently tried to initiate something like that in relation to the book You Are The One You've Been Waiting For by Dick Schwartz, about applying IFS to relationships, but I was just calling it "book buddies" or "book club of 2" or something.
fighting yourself means inevitably losing
@AskYatharth Mmm, yeah, what that illuminates is the difference between counteractive & transformational strategies. It's a waste if you're *fighting* fraud/assholishness down to zero and it gets to keep fighting back. It's a win if you transform the generator and now don't have to worry.
@AskYatharth Relates to covid actually. @tylercowen makes a great point that nonlinearity means that at any moment you're either beating covid or it's beating you—no steady state—so easing up when you've almost won for good is exactly opposite what you want to do. marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolu…
@AskYatharth @tylercowen "zero"
@TristanMiano Uhhh... this isn't like a plane where if you don't ease up before the last second, you crash. Yes, there's a cost to continuing the lockdown a little longer, but it's way lower than the cost of lockdown #2. And we knew cases weren't at zero. ZERO can't multiply!
Retweeted @nickcammarata
my entire philosophy is slowly collapsing into this one image
@DRMacIver fighting is costly – a negative-sum game only reasons to fight are: - if you (or ally) is being attacked - if you can have a decisive victory ➡ peace & prosperity but afaict, you can't actually vanquish parts of yourself, so it just sucks forever
Retweeted @MilanGriffes
Retweeted @moniza_hossain
Two things i should always try to remember: 1. I have never regretted a single instance of kindness 2. I have regret…
@AskYatharth this thread is awesome as-is actually. one of the best articulations I've seen of something important and leading edge
@AskYatharth although maybe it won't actually convey the thing to people who don't already get it. ...there's always that.
this thread articulates something important and leading edge that I just grokked this year if you read it and don't agree or don't understand, I encourage you to try steelmanning it and asking me or @AskYatharth to clarify
@gptbr00ke this is a post-hoc difference that I think is quite precise, although "regret" itself can often use deconstruction
@AskYatharth @ChanaMessinger > I really, really think if you think coercion is “needed” then you’re taking coercion to means something it doesn’t have to. This! Get you a definition of coercion such that you understand both: - why you sometimes think need it - why you actually don't ever need it
@nosilverv in 2014, @vgr branched out from 2×2s and made a neat model that captures the same kind of energy, with a clockwise and ccw direction. "How To Fall Off The Wagon" ribbonfarm.com/2014/09/03/how… (cc @jondubin)
@CatsterQed @AskYatharth it's kind of paradoxical... like "the only thing you have to fear is fear itself" Daniel Schmachtenberger has a great bit on this re anxiety attacks, where the idea "I shouldn't be panicking" is part of what generates the panic. 0h53-1h00 👇 youtu.be/jUn7_85R0M4?t=…
Oh, also funny is when I see an account with many thousands of followers outside our corner, but whose profiles clearly indicate they wouldn't have followers *in* our corner, and I'm like "what? who follows you?"
@gptbr00ke waaaaait I QT'd the wrong tweet. meant to QT this one twitter.com/sosaidvictoria…
Retweeted @AskYatharth
Just because something is good for me DOESN’T MEAN I KNOW IT YET. And I fucking want ot.
aww sheet I just got semantic satiation with the word "sheet" from staring at a bunch of code that works with spreadsheets
Retweeted @GeniesLoki
I do know who needs to hear this, but: Talking articulately about your problems on Twitter is not being a burden to others.…
@GeniesLoki complaining is sacred
@temujin9 @collinofzion I don't care to belong to any club where it's not okay to play with the question of whether or not one is a member :)
@AskYatharth @captain_mrs I don't have that much experience with IFS... but from a podcast episode I listened to of Dick Schwartz, my impression is that well-executed IFS doesn't keep parts reified but just invites them into view enough to untangle the schemas they hold. I think common to reify tho.
@AskYatharth @captain_mrs One question with any process is like "what state does it leave you in when incomplete?" (either short-term or if you get stuck long-term) and it seems like IFS is more likely to leave you with reified parts.
Haven't looked at this for more than a few seconds but I'm tempted to guess this is somehow related to power-law distributions, whose averages (unlike the exponential distributions they resemble) are infinite and do not converge.
@natural_hazard there's a technique called "empowered reenactment" that I haven't found much about beyond a mention in Unlocking the Emotional Brain plus I spontaneously tried it during a therapy session once... basically relive a helpless memory, and find a way to empower yourself in the scene
@natural_hazard when I tried to do this for my lil sister tormenting me, I couldn't access collaborative strategies I tried initially until I 1st found "I WILL NOT LET YOU DO THIS": throwing her out the window was my BATNA. surprisingly effective! had to feel that I had the power to "not let"
@natural_hazard without the sense of batna, trying to dialogue would have felt fake because if she didn't want to play nice she just like... wouldn't have to. but with batna, lots of options, including more seriously telling my parents they needed to fix things, without that feeling like losing
@meekaale @SarahAMcManus Oh fyeah! Excited to see what you're working on 🔥
Retweeted @meekaale
whoa I signed up for the 2021 Goal-Crafting Intensive by @Malcolm_Ocean & @SarahAMcManus et al 😼 complice.co/event/plan2021…
@visakanv I tweeted this thread last Jan 1st! Similar energy and goes through some different domains and different approaches.
@AskYatharth Mmm I had a smile come up reading the "in the next couple seconds" bit as it reminded me how tiny this goes 💖
@AskYatharth A few mins after I had this insight myself a few months ago, I was talking to myself and then I trailed off with "...or whatever the hell I was saying" then I was suddenly like "NO! Not whatever the hell. That thought is sacred even if I choose not to follow it further."
Replying to @____keh
@kehwho I got The Son twice, what it mean
@pmathies @visakanv not as much as you might think, or perhaps not in the ways you might think
Retweeted @justinamash
Pardon @Snowden.
Thread · How the Goal-Crafting Intensive evolved toward metasystematic, non-coercive coaching
Our Goal-Crafting Intensive workshops have organically evolved a lot over the years. In fact, we're considering overhauling the landing page bc it still reads as fairly mainstream systematic, whereas at this point all of our coaches are metasystematic & consciously non-coercive.
As one past participant said, "if I'd just seen the landing page, I wouldn't have been interested... but seeing the landing page and knowing it was run by you—I was very intrigued." And he got a lot out of it! (I think this was @orpheaskk)
That's partially an evolution of my own thinking process—when we first launched the GCIs 4 years ago, I had only just started reading @Meaningness and was still very involved with the CFAR rationality community—I literally did 1 of their instructor trainings 3wks before GCI #1
Having said that, the philosophy for Complice & GCI has been remarkably meta-systematic the whole time… it's not based on trying to execute plans perfectly (tho GCI has an Execution module) but on improvising towards a purpose that can never be perfectly articulated.
So I think in some ways the evolution of the workshop can be thought of as it becoming the sort of thing it wanted to be in the first place, as the people hosting it matured & developed. Anyway, some specific examples of changes:
1: we're more likely to encourage people to integrate resistance now, vs trying to encourage them to use something like Beeminder or some other discipline-based approach. There's still value in those approaches sometimes tho! As one of our coaches notes:
2: relatedly, a bunch of the coaches have now studied emotional processing techniques and frameworks like Coherence Therapy, and we bring a bunch of those moves in, eg encouraging accessing unconscious emotional truths by getting people to speak out loud
3: last year for NY 2020, @SarahAMcManus & I added a new whole "long-term / decade" module to the course content, with content on topics we wouldn't have thought of 4 years ago: - Vision & Values - Navigating Uncertainty & Complexity - Becoming Resilient
GCI will evolve more, and we're also excited to help people host events on other topics using the same unique course structure we've developed, of choose-your-own-adventure content+exercises, coworking, & text-based live coaching. DM if interested.
And if you want to learn more about the event or sign up, you can do so here! As I said above, we have the capacity to go *way* deeper than you might imagine just from looking at this landing page. Feel free to show up and ask me/us about whatever! complice.co/event/plan2021…
@houshuang @tasshinfogleman Personally I would definitely bring a paper journal and some books, but it depends on what you're going for! I've sometimes spent a day in reflection... I would start by making a list of questions to explore, like: - how do I want to eat? - what do I want my days to be like? etc
@aphercotropist I'm not aware of anyone on Earth who has not been traumatized by poorly wielded authority, although I know lots of people who don't realize it yet (this includes me of 5 years ago). I am not exaggerating. This is from both personal experience and models.
@aphercotropist Agreed though that authority is not intrinsically dysfunctional and that people would do well to learn healthier relationships to it. For me and probably many others, learning of healthy relationships to authority and unlearning coercion are very closely linked.
To people who've been feeling wary or averse to the surge in tweets excited about unlearning self-coercion: Your concerns matter. I would not ask you to try relating to yourself in a way that seems confused or dangerous to you. Honoring your own distrust is paramount.
if someone can't trust me in some way, even if I or others *do* trust me in this way then I cannot ask them to trust me more than they can trust me each person has been betrayed in different ways, and their trust must thus be earned in different ways
@DRMacIver @aphercotropist Not sure what you're saying but maybe it's this: (which I agree with) In addition to developing healthy relationship to authority by transforming sense of childhood helplessness, can also do it by recognizing "I'm not a child anymore" waking up from:
@antonjw ultimately it comes down to that (always? it seems, but am not certain, that all trust in others or the world is fundamentally made out of self-trust)
@Kirsten3531 @DRMacIver @aphercotropist Mmm I probably want to do a thread on this at some point. I've had a very self-affirming internal dialogue for my whole life, and that's not at odds with my having exercised lots of self-coercion. The word "coercion" sounds nearly evil though, which is misleading here.
@Kirsten3531 @DRMacIver @aphercotropist Part of what was going on in my particular case, I'll note as a breadcrumb, is that I was identified with the part of me that would sometimes yell at myself, not the part that would get yelled at. So I didn't feel oppressed. I felt powerful.
@AskYatharth @ckmcdona @ChanaMessinger I have met her in person and she is definitely both sincere and really cool!
Thread · Welcoming others' concerns while honoring your own distrust
Important addendum/clarification that arose as I read @AskYatharth's tweet then re-read my own: Your concerns matter AND are welcome.
I can't speak for anyone else, but my relationship to transforming coercion into collaboration is not just internal but fractal & all scales. Thus if a voice says "hey, what you're putting out seems off to me," I must listen if I want to integrate it.
And although parts of me may initially interpret others' criticism or questioning as somehow in the way of dialogue, I know that ultimately the obstacle is the way.
Importantly: I'd be naive & exploitable with what I'm saying above if I were not also clear that it is utterly paramount to honor my own distrust. Sometimes I may sense that I cannot safely or enthusiastically engage in a particular conversation. That's okay! I am not obliged.
My resistance may be all about me—some innocuous feature of their vibe reminds me of someone I have baggage with. Or it may be all about them—I might be detecting a sociopath, narcissist, or compulsive liar. Those extremes are rare. It's usually waaaay harder to untangle.
Instead there's some little bit of my shadow that you can tell you can't quite trust but you can't quite name and if you did I might get defensive & deflect so hard you lose your train of thought... ...while my defensiveness is towards elements of *your* shadow that are present!
But whatever we're working with, to the extent that we can find it in ourselves to not demand that either of us trust the other more than we non-naively can, we can create space for a different kind of dialogue.
@AskYatharth This whole thread ⏬ was supposed to be directly added to my top-level tweet here, but twitter's UI glitched. I'm actually kind of digging how it turned out TBH. Sometimes nice to have a single tweet, not a thread. & below thread's point is very general!
@nickredmark Nice.
Retweeted @sonyasupposedly
what I'm attempting, btw, is an illustration that the Christian mindset — as exemplified in the Lord's Prayer bequeath…
@petheth Yeah, they really seem to tug against each other! I explored transcending that duality in a blog post a few years ago: "Towards being purpose-driven without fighting myself" link: malcolmocean.com/2017/06/toward…
@AskYatharth Oh, in this sense, yeah. Not to go all hipster but maybe I'm able to be a bit more spacious about this because I've working on a coercive culture -> collaborative culture transition project since 2012, so it doesn't feel new. Tho the popularity is new!
@nosilverv Some @visakanv energy here, if you combine this first tweet:
@nosilverv @visakanv ...and this one: (Altho I guess he's being metaphorical)
@maybegray also ofc possible to have high standards kindly held rather than critically, though resetting may be part of the pathway.
@_AlastairX_ @tylercowen Relates to @jgreenhall's Civium concept, which I haven't dived deeply into but I feel excited by the overall energy of it. youtu.be/3CH4mlDX-fc
@orpheaskk @m_ashcroft @petheth Oh cool! Maybe I'll also make a nice version of the graphic too, given that it's like 3.5y Lindy at this point. (I think I was intending to at the time but was worried I'd end up reifying something that was still very tentative.)
@jackinlondon @AskYatharth @ChanaMessinger Yeah I think in this case the concept is crucial & complex enough that a simple reinterpretation won't do. My "get you a definition that does both" was intended as playful and as pointing at a process that is unlikely to happen in the span of a couple minutes of conversation.
@jackinlondon @AskYatharth @ChanaMessinger As @AskYatharth said, I've been staring at this coercion thing for years (more like 8.5 actually) and afaict it is ultimately an unsustainable and unnecessary social technology but we don't actually have a viable alternative ready yet and that's okay. Same true of fossil fuels.
@jackinlondon @AskYatharth @ChanaMessinger The non-self-coercion discourse is now moving really rapidly though and not fully aware of: 1. the relationship between self-coercion & society (tho the critrats get this) 2. the need to grok a way of organizing other than coercion (tho some emphasize this, eg @mattgoldenberg)
@ChanaMessinger @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii Mmmm, appreciating your sharing this. Vital feedback. I think this is an unfortunate example of limitations of twitter... hard to be enthusiastic & evocative about subtle stuff that people aren't totally on the same page about, without ending up with a kind of aggressive energy.
@ChanaMessinger @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii In person it's possible to have a different kind of energetic resonant attunement... ...although to be clear, it's also very common for that attunement to be lacking or for the resonance dimension to be itself used manipulatively.
@jackinlondon @ChanaMessinger @AskYatharth Mmm... that's a good point. Seems maybe there are way more meanings than there are words, which puts meanings in competition for words. I've found it super valuable to have such a concept of coercion, even as a placeholder that there could exist such a thing, AND... 1/2
@jackinlondon @ChanaMessinger @AskYatharth AND I've yet had my own serious confusion over the years that has come from taking my proto-definition too seriously. I think I was phoning in the "why you think you need it" part, thinking I understood but not actually listening to dissenting parts.
@jackinlondon @ChanaMessinger @AskYatharth and it was my realizing how I'd been doing that not-listening for years—functionally, trying to coerce myself into something beyond coercion—that led to my new stance, which is way more able to listen to others as well:
@xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii "wrong" seems to me in contexts like this to be an inadequate concept for the task. It's not that it's right, either, it's that "right/wrong" is missing the point. "wrong", afaict, asks (at least implicitly) a person/part to give up what they know
@ChanaMessinger @TwiceBaked8 @AskYatharth @ckmcdona Yeah it's definitely a tussle, mostly playful. This twitter scene is, afaict, collaborating on original research & synthesis on this topic which is at the leading edge of cultural evolution, and it's super exciting and encouraging to me! (and I think others!)
Replying to @TwiceBaked8
@TwiceBaked8 @AskYatharth @ckmcdona @ChanaMessinger One big source (particularly for critical rationalists) is @DavidDeutschOxf's book The Beginning of Infinity, which talks about civilization being built on coercive memeplexes that function by traumatizing people into spreading them regardless of individual benefit.
@xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii The task of understanding motivations (oneself's or others) or integrating different perspectives into a larger whole. The concept of "wrong" isn't anywhere in the neural nets that solve the parallax→depth perception puzzle.
@xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii @DRMacIver Yeah I think I basically dig what @DRMacIver is saying here... the crux would be about the nature of the word "wrong" and the effects that using it *tends* to have on making dialogue a lot harder. I try not to be fixated on that point.
@TwiceBaked8 @AskYatharth @ckmcdona @ChanaMessinger @DavidDeutschOxf I have reservations about that book/paradigm but on the whole it was very insightful for me and I would recommend it! (Some of my critique:)
@ChanaMessinger @jackinlondon @AskYatharth mmm yeah I like both, in different was and value you pushing back on calling words "bleh" ❤️
a ton of great questions in this thread, that I am stoked to spend months exploring with this amazing twitter scenius
@xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii Pretty much, yeah. And asking the right/wrong question is at best a waste of time and at worst actively impedes understanding. (This is maybe not true in all contexts; I could probably write some code that would use the concept of wrong for parity checks or something.)
@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii I find it helpful in contexts like this to highlight the difference but relationship between "thought" and "thinking process". Which I think is part of what you're trying to do with "valid". Could even go full logic terminology here "your emotions are valid but not sound" 😂
@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii So your brain is going eg "I am a child and this situation is threatening me therefore I need to panic right now" and there's a sense in which the logic is valid but the premise "I am a child" is uhhh a bit out of date.
@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii But there's something more subtle & loopy here where the words "I am a child" are WAY oversimplified compared to the actual schema stored in the brain, & because patterns tend to be self-reinforcing, there are ways in which one still is-a-child in some sense that needs understood
@xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii hmmm, thinking of PCT (which I know way better than predictive processing) I have a sense that if we replaced "wrong" with "erroneous" in the strict sense of how the term is used in PCT, then we're (afaict) totally on the same page here
@DRMacIver @drossbucket @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii Seems to me now we're back to the misinterpretation interpretation, to the extent that you can't separate "what your feelings are telling you" from "how you interpret what they're telling you"
@DRMacIver @drossbucket @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @ChanaMessinger @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii Altho I think this is part of where Bio-Emotive really shines, in that it encourages blending with the feeling and expressing them in their own terms, to feel the truth of them without being blocked by more intellectual-cognitive interpretations of what the feeling means/implies.
@ChanaMessinger @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii > Not everything is good, is my controversial take. 🌶️🌶️🌶️ I'm in agreement with you on this, tho I also hold that nothing is bad—for some sense of the word bad. There are also obviously senses of the word in which I would say lots of things are bad. Judgment vs discernment.
@ChanaMessinger @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii I share your concern and have been puzzling on a pragmatic paradox shaped like this for years and still don't have adequate answers and am enjoying how your questioning process is helping clarify things here.
The paradox I'm currently in love with: 1. existing culture is fucked up in ways I'll collectively call "A" 2. "A" is trying to fuck you up 3. "A" = "people trying to protect from being fucked up by A" 4. thus to shift "A" to "B", one must protect against "A" without protecting
@ChanaMessinger @xuenay @AskYatharth @kureshii_ @WeftOfSoul @ckmcdona @GeniesLoki @Kureshii Paradox, oversimplified, goes:
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
Treating your OWN THINKING as if it is a foreign language that you are trying to learn, is a surprisingly effective tac…
@maltybegray @maybegray ♥️ towards your annoyance & glad you QT'd it here I DM'd @AskYatharth about this because I was also angry at him. That vegan tweet was a huge own-goal afaict, since he's hugely into non-coercion and this tweet is polarizing & makes enemies of people who share that resonance!
It's unfortunately not the best phrase because out of context it doesn't scan quickly, but I think "own goal" as in "put the ball in your own net, scoring a point against your own team" is otherwise a great metaphor for talking about some kinds of mistakes. #MetaphorsMatter
It's basically like "welp, you were trying to do X and you have now achieved... the opposite of that." It's not the end of the world, and you need to pick yourself up and keep playing the game, but it sucks. Even for the now-advantaged team, it's still kinda like "aww"
Replying to @UNDICTION
@UNDICTION baha the worst
Replying to @UNDICTION
@UNDICTION onelook.com contains lots of idioms/phrases, and you can search it by meaning you'd put in *:breezy to get any words/phrases that mean "breezy"
@AskYatharth I like how you doubled down on the Iroh tangent by posting these images. Made me chuckle.
@AskYatharth I love your articulation of these two kinds of honor ♥️ I don't think I said that at the time in the chat
@AskYatharth oooooooh really nice tie-in there
@AskYatharth Yeah nice, well put. Nothing is fundamentally off-limits, but you need to co-create the capacity for the container to hold what you want to put in it.
@chaosprime @TurboRational @Meaningness yeah, +1 to this although moreso than most works of inspired poetry, it's tempting to read it as if it's a reasoned argument which could be considered a flaw of misleadingness although to me it's also part of what makes it beautiful art
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna @AskYatharth This is a great point. I do feel a faint sense of @AskYatharth trying to... convince himself and/or us he's going to be better in future? When I've done this, it's usually been in denial of the point @AbhayPrasanna is making right here. Hoping I can fix it right now somehow.
@AskYatharth @jack_meditates I think you didn't actually tweet the specific 2 lines I was suggesting you tweet too late to do this (as it goes) but I would have started the whole thread with them they have a kind of noticing & revealing quality, where much of this thread is more reflective
@nosilverv I was like "maybe he's going somewhere with this" until he got to the etymology part 🤣
@uberstuber I've got dozens of old ones (>2y) some of which will eventually actually get published; many not. Lately my half-baked stuff lives: - on twitter - on roam: intertwingled.blog - in high-context google docs I share with people close to me Have written >50k words since June
@rjallain @juliagalef This plus (just spitballing) something like it might have also helped your balance to become a 4-legged system, allowing some part of you to relax that otherwise would be constantly active to prevent falling.
@visakanv @the_aiju I've thought of this and I think it would be cool to design some novel competitive tactical games, both FPS- and RTS-like, that aren't at all based in a war metaphor but somehow something else. Would be hard to market but if gameplay mechanic was 🔥✨😮 could be smash success.
@visakanv @the_aiju Hard to do competitive without war metaphor unless you get really far from even having *people* in your metaphor, because otherwise only rules stop violence from winning. Tho in non-competitive space: - Portal is cool FPS - LEGO Rock Raiders is cool RTS
@michaelcurzi just moved to coastal British Columbia which is temperate rainforest (here's a pic of @aphercotropist) AMA
this is straight-up an awesome idea I think we're gonna see lots of great mashups like this in the next decade t.co/82RvZ85N4z
@daemonhugger @sarahaferri it's optimal too little sleep and you don't have enough brainpower too much and your system will tend towards the depressive end of the depression-mania spectrum (all of what I'm saying here is grossly oversimplified, but my optimal sleep is 6-6.5h at night + 20min nap)
@michaelcurzi @MorlockP I happened on this the other day (as part of understanding the aforementioned temperate rainforest I just moved to) and it might be part of what you're looking for (though not at all explicitly for writers) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6pp…
@michaelcurzi @aphercotropist This time of year (the coldest) it goes down to mid-30s at night. Below freezing ever, snows a few times per winter, but not for extended periods of time. There was some frost the other morning. Also mountainy here & lil mountaintops just up the hill from me are snowcapped atm.
@michaelcurzi @aphercotropist But the forests here are discernably different from ones both in the rest of Canada and in California. Everything is covered in MOSS. Whereas in California it would die because not enough water. & elsewhere in Canada it would freeze too much.
Framing effects are huge. If your loved one appears to be defecting in how *you're* modelling the game, consider they may have a different model (consciously or unconsciously). The real wins in game theory come from creating positive-sum, positively-correlated games.
At some point I'll make a chart showing how you can have: - negative sum, neg correlated (eg war) - zero sum thus necessarily negatively correlated outcomes (sports, sorta) - positive sum / neg correlated (capitalist exploitation) - positive sum, pos correlated (family, friends)
Retweeted @ElodesNL
I really, seriously need a Roam interface that looks like a facebook chat I want to be able to go "fb chat here" and it pops…
How the hell did it take me until today to think of pronouncing MacBook as if it's a Scottish last name?! This is amazing.
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania Nice. Also ofc true of rationalist reductionist materialist frames, in the opposite direction!
another great lens on how game theory abstractions don't apply to most actual human interaction (at least between people who are engaging in person)
@EpistemicHope Nah I think this is happening a TON and usually on implicit levels that are far below what is easy to point at using ordinary language... ...and that under low-trust circumstances, pointing at it is usually itself a psy-op.
@diviacaroline @EpistemicHope This is a great analogy. Many solutions imply some sort of weird hop to high-trust, as opposed to actual trust-BUILDING
@michaelcurzi neat chart! not sure how to read it but I like the overall vibe
Replying to @btohtoh
@btohtoh @daemonhugger @sarahaferri A bunch of polyphasic experiments (which helped me master the 20min nap) plus realizing that if I tried to sleep just 8h/night I consistently couldn't fall asleep at the same time the next night. malcolmocean.com/2016/04/polyph…
@daemonhugger @sarahaferri Depends. When things are going really well and I'm napping consistently I naturally wake up after 5-7h. But sometimes alarms help me get into that groove, if I've been sleeping in or whatever.
@yashkaf @visakanv @the_aiju Nice! Yeah, still a simple physical metaphor but hardly evokes anything resembling realistic violence.
@AskYatharth @AbhayPrasanna yes I think so
@shimmertje8 @visakanv @shrinetothevine I usually say "I'll be the colorful guy with the hair" and that works pretty well
@michaelcurzi I have the sense we're approaching critical mass on this front and the pandemic is creating a kind of potent pressure, that will unleash people into a bunch of groups, both online and local, over the next couple years.
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
The ultimate pep talk ever given, one that applies for any creative person working in any field, ever …
@Jeanvaljean689 @RoamResearch @thepericulum @RaygunIcecream cc @utotranslucence who is building @marginaliaclub
@TristanMiano Yes! But then hmm... what's the tartan?
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania Wanna get your start with text-based coaching at our Goal-Crafting Intensives? Great chance to get experience & exposure to dozens of people's situations, and learn what sorts of things you feel most drawn to working with! We've got a few other new coaches this year from twitter
@quotidiania Link to event page for deets & dates: complice.co/event/plan2021… Basically consists of hanging out in a bunch of chat channels for a few hours with other coaches, and responding to questions/stucknesses you feel you can help with somehow. It's a blast!
@quotidiania If you're interested / want to know more, DM @SarahAMcManus who is doing new coach coordination this year.
@meditationstuff I'm a "somewhat/somewhat"
hooooooly fuck we are coming up on 1/1000 Americans having died from covid this year. hadn't quite taken in the cumulative number. (Canada has ~1/4000; still not great.) it's nothing like the European plagues that killed 30-70% in some areas, but it's still like, a countable #.
@ClayNichols Yeah the last few new copies of those books sold out a few years back. They're great books though, hm...
@ClayNichols @isaacmorehouse I like to use the phrase "make response-ability" instead of "take responsability". The creative nature makes me feel more excited about it.
at what age did you first go meta?
@ckmcdona Yeah, I've been hearing that comparison but I hadn't actually multiplied that by the number of days... ...and as a Canadian that connection doesn't have the same emotional weight for me. (Plus years of hearing "9/11 deaths aren't actually high compared to other things")
Thread · Attackers feel powerless, and why protectiveness escalates arms races
This thread may be *more* true for autistic people, but I think it is true for almost everyone: that at the times when others feel most threatened by us, we feel most vulnerable and afraid. And vice versa: those attacking us, on the inside, often feel profoundly powerless.
As a source, I'll share this book, whose basic thesis is about exactly this dynamic. People internalize powerlessness as kids, then as adults explode with dangerous rage *while feeling powerless*. The author figures this is what generates cycles of abuse.
The truth of this (and it's only a partial model - it probably doesn't, for instance, apply to sociopaths) is what underpins the way in which protectiveness doesn't actually work as a stance, because it produces/escalates Arms Race system dynamics.
AND! Protectiveness is not wrong, but necessary and sacred. What I'm saying here is not "be vulnerable" but "develop internal strength & self-trust that learns over time to be safe without being guarded—which is a way more *stable* safety"
The stance that I seek to embody instead is one that is profoundly respectful of all protectiveness & distrust:
People tend to be wary of respecting others' protectiveness, as they fear that that would be a kind of "giving in". This wariness is itself a kind of protectiveness, and afaict tends to reinforce the very thing it's trying not to reinforce. But you can't just "not do that".
Whatever parts of you are raising objections have some important point to make, about a way in which whatever your concept of "respect" here might actually be naive or self-undermining. Those concerns matter and integrating them is whence non-naive trust.
My question is: what would you need in order to easefully, confidently trust that you have a way to respect others' protectivenesses that would not undermine your own vulnerability nor whatever aspects of them you cannot actually trust at the moment?
(it's a little hard to articulate that question in abstract; when I'm working with someone one-on-one about a particular challenging relationship/conversation, I can actually make it a lot more specific & situated, which helps it be a lot more clear)
Would love to hear which parts of this make sense to you, which seem confused/unclear, or any protectiveness that arises! One of my top priorities is refining my articulations of the framework I've developed this year out of which all of what I've said here emerges as obvious.
@the_aiju find or create a way to love yourself that isn't cringe
@the_aiju whatever part is rejecting self-love as cringe wants to be loved a different way just like how if you try to do be friendly towards someone and they snap at you, doubling down on the same energy can actually be kind of a jerk move (saw tweet about this recently but idk where)
@onelittlelion I'm not any kind of doctor, tv or otherwise, but it seems that top priority is ensuring that they feel respected by you, whatever they do. So if you have judgments coming up, do what work you need to do to be able to take their perspective and invite dialogue around it all.
@onelittlelion And don't ask them to trust you in ways that they can't non-naively trust you—which include real limits on your capacity to assert "this is safe", as well as whatever other not-about-you-personally schemas they might have about trusting authority.
This is pretty great actually. It may be a mess and candidates aren't ideal, but real change does come from who controls government, and allowing people to experience that in a situated, personalized way, seems like an important vibe to transmit.
Importantly, it's like, peoples lives are meaningfully affected by policy. Connecting people's votes back to the change on the ground, to people in their neighborhood... rather than obsessing over the culture-war meanings of voting.
@Meaningness has a great article playfully exploring the idea of separating those two completely; in the meantime, PSAs like the one above seem like a decent way to shift public attention from tribal fights to actual governance. meaningness.com/metablog/virtu…
I was curious what would happen when the hedge-trimming guy went and voted... that it might get into partisan complexity. ZAP! "I have saved your unborn child from being murdered; thank me later" 😬
And ultimately there's a need to have dialogue around different careabouts that are in tension but not fundamentally opposed. The folks who want green energy don't *want* unemployment for those in fossil fuel sector. We need to combine our superpowers! Impossible w just a vote.
@uberstuber @alexhughsam +1 to nap! On which note it's time to get off twitter & take mine. I could imagine building a bit more ritual around the nap that would help anchor some other stuff, but that could easily become too big and make the nap not even happen, which is always the risk with these.
@the_aiju This is why my stance towards all of this emphasizes loving in a way that fully respects what love looks like to the other. (Whether another person or an internal part I'm loving.)
@the_aiju And taking such a stance on a meta-level allows for more buy-in even before I understand how someone or some part wants to be loved, to the extent that they trust that I will follow-through on finding that understanding and will listen to any objection.
Retweeted @CompliceGoals
Our next round of goal-setting & planning workshops is coming up in the next month! 5 epic hours of self-directed work,…
Retweeted @aaronzlewis
interesting that it’s totally normal to be “of 2 minds” about something, but if you say you’re of 3 or 4 minds people star…
@vgr @threadapalooza kilt
Replying to @SpongeonethOT
@snigdhar0y no although like most maxims, there is some truth to it doing otherwise requires some combination of weird friends / context-changes, therapy, willingness to go against the grain and also openness to seeing ways in which you *are* repeating intergenerational traumas
we can and we mustn't (which ofc is what Mark meant)
@sonyasupposedly My childhood: leave it where you put it. Later lived w/ a gal who thought leaving it up was basically an overt insult (idk about her childhood 😬) 1mo in: her "do you realize you leave the toilet seat up?" me: "yeah" 🤷♂️ She thought "😮 asshole" & didn't talk to me for weeks.
@sonyasupposedly Some months later I decided I was going to learn the habit of putting the seat down, though she unrelatedly decided she was moving out like 2 weeks later so it didn't have much direct effect on her. I ended up installing a habit of closing the lid too, at least sometimes.
@sonyasupposedly I'm now basically not opinionated about it, but one thing this experience taught me is that while I still think that "leave it where you put it" is fine & simple, there *are* people who have trauma around this (incl from falling in 😖) & it's kind to be able to accommodate them.
@antirobust technically redundant but a useful reminder of non-exhaustiveness could also be like Alfred Korzybski and use custom punctuation that lets you say "etc" even more abbreviatedly.
@mayfer @posobin - Ampie could track this stuff @BlackForestBoi - this could also be part of Memex
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot im not gay,,, but i dont think this is how gay sex works
This quote of @MarkLutter by @Conaw prompts two questions I find myself wanting to ask y'all about: 1. What timescales are you primarily thinking on? Why? 2. Of the people whose visions & plans you're aware of, who is thinking on the longest timescales?
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania I think that part of the terrifyingness is straight up the left hemisphere's perspective. The nature of the way the left hemisphere models the world and its own models means, afaict, that it can't fathom change/death as something that would happen to *it*.
Retweeted @CurziRose
Rap = 90's-2020's Shakespeare (Virtues: explosive personal energy, character presence, rhyme, prolific-ness & duration, in-…
@SpencrGreenberg related
2009: made acct to coord info re Iran protest (?!) 2010: musicians 2011-12: startups / @UWVeloCity 2013: interned @Twitter 2014-16: rationality, @CompliceGoals, WST 2017-18: meta-rationality, ribbonfarm, design 2019: ↔️🧠, #SobSquad 2020: #roamcult, noncoercion, strangely earnest t.co/sJ3e5o91fo
Retweeted @alexhughsam
My thoughts on goal setting for 2021: Choose goals that are scary, but not impossible to achieve. Pair them with actions…
@alexhughsam Sounds very resonant with the Four Disciplines of Execution approach. It calls the "scary but not impossible" goals WIGs (wildly important goals) and gets you to specify lag measures (eg # subs) and weekly lead measures (eg "send 1 newsletter")
A small fan group got a disturbing hashtag trending, & its been going for hours entirely from tweets like "wtf #TweetsAboutThisTrend is trending?" Many trends are like this, even with something that was originally news. Rage version of navel-gazing.
@meditationstuff yeah somehow it would on its own but in dialogue with yours I think it reads as a kind of twitter-medium equivalent of me putting my hand on your shoulder, looking you in the eye and saying something resonant and courageous
@finereli I have a feeling that what you're missing isn't quite what you think you're missing, though I'm not certain what it is. What I do know is that I've had a wuju.app tab open in the background for a month, intending to try, but haven't actually done it yet.
@finereli I'd be more than happy to have a business/strategy/design jam session with you sometime soon. This is something I sometimes do for money but tbh I love doing it and would be happy to do it just because I want things like wuju.app to exist in the world.
@finereli also @meekaale have you seen wuju.app? seems related to the stuff you want to build
I'm like a VC but instead of investing money & getting money as returns, I invest enthusiasm & design perspective, and get satisfaction & relationships as returns.
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
1/ Today is my first day of trying to really hone-down a "prediction-based workflow" and so far I'm really loving it.…
many "why don't billionaires give away more money?" takes, and this bit about Bezos' ex-wife prompts me to consider another reason why not: most people have no idea what to DO with billions by contrast: Bezos, Musk, etc, prolly have trillions of dollars worth of project ideas!
Moreover, as I learned from going to several effective altruism summits, it's remarkably hard to give money away effectively! @Open_Philanthropy Project was founded because some billionaires were like "fuck wait there are not billions of dollars' worth of obviously-good bets 🧐"
Same applies to investing. @vgr has a great thread on this and on how there's no free lunch when it comes to good investing. > To the extent some wealth creation opportunities need concentrated capital, the rich must think.
"wealth creation opportunities" is a description that absolutely applies to charities as well, not just to businesses, unless you take a naive approach and think that only financial profit is wealth. Real human well-being is wealth. A better world is wealth. Less CO₂ is wealth.
Replying to @ggddmmmm
@garethdmm no I'm saying that (some) billionaires don't give money away because they themselves DO have ideas for what to do with it and don't have the time to figure out who else has marginally better ideas
@mellisawaltzer @daemonhugger depends on whether you want to might sound like circular reasoning but there are signals you can learn to listen to to discern if you are doing it to avoid future-you resenting you or if you're doing so because you WANT to make future-you happy
Retweeted @SarahAMcManus
This is enormously fun! And very intuitive - I don't think there's a way to make a bad sound. It's very grand and reso…
@SarahAMcManus @GretchenAMcC I think you'd like this.
@diviacaroline @michaelcurzi @RichDecibels @againstutopia agreed. seems like a special case of this paradox attempting to not "let parents raise their kids how they want" would be fucking up the parents as an attempt to protect the kids
@jdunck @diviacaroline @michaelcurzi @RichDecibels @againstutopia depends on what you mean by coercion, anarchy, etc parenting necessitates non-anarchy, by definition, afaict. the parent-child relationship is the epitome of "necessarily asymmetrical" but can be panarchy with a bit of functional hierarchy, rather than authoritarian
@jdunck @diviacaroline @michaelcurzi @RichDecibels @againstutopia my current focus in therapy is on "being sent to my room" great convo w my mom last week - she was like "yeah I wouldn't do it that way now" & I was able to say "yeah, those experiences were scary. was supposed to rethink what I'd done but I didn't have the introspective tools"
#TheFirstRuleOfTwitter is don't QT bad takes why would you signal boost something you think there should be less of? be the incentives you wish to see in the world
@MarcKoenig_ @uberstuber @alexhughsam I do 20-22 every day, with an audio track made by @matthewfallshaw. link to file: drive.google.com/file/d/0BwP3_2… context: (some links here dead) lesswrong.com/posts/xLA6hZxv…
@dougrmitchell I agree with you in principle, and you can obviously use X $ to solve it for one person, but given how many things are illegal in America I would bet that somehow it would actually be absurdly hard to use X million $ to solve it for a million people.
@SpencrGreenberg @juliagalef haha hilarious
lmk if you have autodeletion for old tweets (apparently some people do this?) so I can mute you to avoid accidentally trying to use one of your contributions to this wild and wonderful collective conversation as a stable building block in some structured meaning-castle
fuck I feel seen twitter.com/phr31nd/status…
timeline to me feels like its been rooting for years and is currently growing a stem upwards 🌱 flowers coming soon 🌸 then we gotta do some cross-pollination in order to bear some fruit 🍒
@stillthisglass if you haven't tried adding a ton of bright lights, I consider it a must for any room that doesn't have a big sunny window can do the whole string-of-lanterns lumenator thing or just 80/20 it with a couple of these $17 bad boys: amazon.com/KAEZI-Studio-L… lesswrong.com/posts/hC2NFsuf…
@TaskRatchet no idea whatever people think it is in the responses left it vague ~deliberately idk how I'd answer
Replying to @CyberKulak
@CyberKulak in this context it's something like "X has enough power to force Y to create something while X pays Y an amount that is unsustainable for Y" the {X, Y} system is positive sum, in that output is greater than input but X puts in 20 units, gets 40 and Y puts in 10 units, gets 8
Replying to @_djpn
@_djpn woah
@AaronEstel @visakanv @the_aiju yeah I loved it and had completely forgotten about it until YouTube decided I needed a rec of a guy reviewing it someone is making a new version that's way better both graphics-wise and gameplay-wise manicminers.baraklava.com
@meekaale Mmm yes, I suspect that will work just fine. It's the "why" aspect of the concept of "goal" that's most important, not the sense of completion. But that makes "goal" distinction from "project", if you see what I mean. Here's 1 definition we also use:
Retweeted @meekaale
@Malcolm_Ocean hey I'm finally trying Complice, excited! I thought about this Dreyfus quote when I started to think about my…
@stillthisglass Yeah there are similar wattage super bright LED bulbs too. Not sure exactly what to search for them but yeah.
@DoqxaScott In principle, perhaps, but in practice it rarely works like that.
@everytstudies > The idea is this: interacting with living beings and physical objects require two completely different modes of thinking, and I suspect this duality is part of our cognitive machinery on a pretty fundamental level. Yup - it's the brain hemispheres.
@everytstudies here's a tweet that makes the connection a little more explicitly, though in the context of buddhism:
@everytstudies different aspects of the L↔️R hemisphere thing also connect to coupling/decoupling conversation, with ofc the LH decoupling and the RH coupling
Retweeted @Snowden
When a crooked politician calls me traitor, ask yourself: who did I betray? The courts have ruled repeatedly that the programs…
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
Last December, I broke down the vital ingredients in the goal definition we use at Goal-Crafting Intensive workshops. 🎯…
@DoqxaScott There are various studies showing that giving people more evidence about something tends to cause them to double-down on their opinion, regardless of what the evidence says. I don't have any on-hand but yeah.
@DoqxaScott But the other level on which it doesn't work like that is that by QTing, you are exposing *your own followers* to the original bad take, then debating it. Rather than adding your own (presumably good) take to the original scene where people were being exposed to the bad take.
@meekaale Yeah there's an "is this enough?" question which is more target oriented. I'm working on overhauling that to be a bit more spacious & meta. You can try out the new version (with custom questions) by enabling it here: complice.co/$USERNAME/sett…
@AskYatharth I like the scout & base metaphor. Role of intellectual cognition as exploring ideas, not getting too attached just trying them on and seeing what they do.
@deltaveeee @captain_mrs @CompliceGoals for a super philosophical/historical/evolutionary/memetics take, check out this book: (does not answer how to do it, and to the extent that it tries I think it is somewhat naive or misleading)
@deltaveeee @captain_mrs @CompliceGoals For learning how to do it, a few suggestions: - You Are The One You've Been Waiting For (is about IFS, not centrally relevant but has a great vibe) - Unlocking the Emotional Brain (for therapists but the underlying framework is profoundly non-coercive) lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3…
@deltaveeee @captain_mrs @CompliceGoals Worth noting that from my perspective this field of inquiry (non-coercion, including non-self-coercion) is in a phase similar to physics was in the 1920s, with the Bohr-Einstein debates. Lots of new stuff appearing and yet to be fully understood.
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@deltaveeee @captain_mrs @CompliceGoals Worth noting that from my perspective this field of inquiry (non-coercion, inclu…
@MugaSofer Yeah it's compressed, partially to fit in one tweet, partially because it emerged in the context of a larger discussion, and partially because it's me trying to point at something *at all* that I have not yet developed the framing to properly introduce. Hint: A~=GameA, B~=GameB
have been thinking about this a bit more and wondering if the way to spell it to get this pronounciation is McBook, or ofc even better: MᶜBook sounds suspiciously like a book-shaped hamburger though 🙄
@uncatherio mmmm nice. yeah, the reason for this illusion is that in practice most of the objects or services you would buy cost roughly the same amount in USD over time, so it sort of feels like USD is the appropriate thing to denote stuff in - from one perspective yes, but not inherently
Retweeted @uncatherio
treating *all* assets as "options" I can exercise. the "real" denomination I can exchange them for is "what I terminally va…
@uncatherio also this tweet was adjacent on the tl and it seems remarkably relevant ~#Twiptych
@danlistensto @powerbottomdad1 my dad gave me $1k a few years ago on the condition I put it in an RRSP (similar but 🇨🇦) and we had a long convo where I was like: > dad, in 40 years we'll be in one of these worlds, in none of will my bank account matter: - post-scarcity 🥰🚀 - everyone dead ☠️🪨 - collapse 📉🧑🌾
@danlistensto @powerbottomdad1 but I took it anyway because (at least in Canada) the way it works is that you don't pay tax on that income this year, and there's no penalty for withdrawing early except paying tax then so if complice.co went belly-up, could help smooth path to next venture
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania man why isn't twitter such that I could just lay down a beat or a freestyle on top of this? like wtf. @Beehtrix get on this
Retweeted @cvaldary
There is no material difference between telling a room full of white men they're racist because they're white and telling a r…
@SamHBarton Huh for me, I sometimes touch-type for half an hour in complete darkness, and the only concern I have is the question of whether the keyboard is still connected, the device still on, and my typing going into a textbox. Which wouldn't be issues here. Completely proprioceptive.
@protoneutype this is a great point for me, reading meaningness.com/self and some related articles helped me see how my own agency is intertwingled with others and reading Mutual Causality in Buddhism and General Systems Theory really blew my mind on this front
In the wake of the replication crisis, I'd like to proudly remind people that @CompliceGoals is not and has never been one of those apps that markets itself as being based on science. Empiricism, ie experimentation, yes, but not studies. Its design is entirely based on aesthetic.
somehow found myself thinking @nickcammarata would have a take in relation to this, but wasn't sure what exactly "turns out you can do this with yourself too and it feels even better🤯" or something like that and I think there is a legit insight in that, tho ofc ways to misread
@speakerjohnash what's the texture of it like?
thinking about this in relation to my own visions I definitely have a different basic purpose, to which any helping of people is in service seems more like "have fun building a utopia together" curious what it *actually* is tho, you know? unconscious intent t.co/DDAxbMq1u1
Retweeted @jason_kint
OK, whew. I've now read all 130 pages of state AGs suit v Google. In three words, Google is royally screwed. Expect... P…
Potent thread summarizing the antitrust lawsuit being filed against Google. Whatever happened to "don't be evil"? They have achieved exactly the opposite of their mission. Envisioning Google as a tired prairie driver staring at a lone tree thinking "don't hit the tree" ...💥
Retweeted @Thinkwert
Which image is the close-up of the other?
@utotranslucence idk if this falls under "game" but for me I would try to do it as fast as possible, possibly involving unreasonable amounts of caffeine did this with my taxes one year and had a BLAST
@utotranslucence "vajra approaches" makes me think like... really embrace whatever negative feelings you have about it - pointlessness, rage, whatever. complete this bureaucratic task FURIOUSLY
one must imagine sisyphus wondering why everyone is imagining sisyphus
Thread · Introducing the coaches at the Goal-Crafting Intensive
In this thread, Malcolm is gonna hype up the many coaches we've got coaching at our Goal-Crafting Intensives next weekend & in January. If you come to the event, you get a channel with 6-12 coaches in it answering your Qs in parallel. Let's go! 🔥🤩 complice.co/event/plan2021…
If you've just been seeing the tweets but haven't ever come to the event, you probably don't know that it's not just me & @SarahAMcManus who run this. We're just the most active on twitter! The other two main organizers are Benjamin Carr & Mary Bajorek.
Benjamin is cofounder of GCI - he & I made the innovative many-coaches-via-chat format, 4y ago. He's also played a major role re workshop content, plus invented some exercises like Somatic Task-relevant Processing... this year he's bringing a new thing called Dharma Generator!
Mary Bajorek has got a knack for helping people figure out what's most important and facing fears & shames in order to realize their vision. She's designed personal retreats for herself & others, to really go deep into introspection & self-discovery. lifeworthlovingcoaching.com
@SarahAMcManus has a background in systems ecology & psychedelic facilitation with ayahuasca, and now brings that same cosmic groundedness to helping people develop resilience through emotional integration techniques. Loves to find new metaphors that empower new possibilities.
And me of course! I tend to be drawn to helping encourage people to take the leap into working on a lifestyle business or some other self-directed project, or designing some system to help what's most important naturally stay in focus, without effort.
@mattgoldenberg is someone I really look up to in terms of how much deep research he's done into dozens of transformational change techniques. He recently synthesized a bunch of those into his own course framed around procrastination, & has been a regular GCI coach for years.
Mike Plotz (@hyponymous) is a software engineer. Not all of our coaches are "Coaches"! I met him through the rationality community though he's gone post-rat since. A great person to talk to about meditation or for career advice.
@chriswaterguy was one of our original coaches back in 2017, and he's coached every year since. He's a real pro at areas like procrastination, perfections, & ADHD, and teaches concrete productivity techniques like no-willpower planning, timeboxing, & project breakdowns.
@utotranslucence is a close friend of mine who used to run a circus company, has worked in crypto, and is now building @marginaliaclub for social ebooks. Hard to summarize her. She's real. She's there. She takes things seriously. She considers things deeply.
Zoe @CurziRose has a background in theatre and other psychotechnologies, and does a range of mind & body techniques such as embodied introspection into action-generating beliefs & internal dialoguing. Has a gentle yet active style.
New this year is @DRMacIver, someone whose writing I've respected for a few years. He doesn't have one big theory afaict, just consistently shares original takes on a variety of topics that are one solid notch better than most other takes out there. eg
@nosilverv needs no intro - he's infamous around here for his classy & sincere shitpoasting. What inspired me to reach out to him this year re coaching at GCI was this epic thread of him coaching @AskYatharth over twitter DM. Exactly the skillset we need.
While we were at it, we got @AskYatharth to coach too! He's got some advanced takes in the non-coercion space and very much shows up as an active learner in all domains, & tries to make all spaces he's in more learning-oriented. Like me, he's got fear of *everyone* missing out.
Okay, couldn't resist—another twitter fren. Sarah said "let's reach out to @harveykrishna_", who is full of playful, serious poetry and is very much a switch as far as coaching goes. (Honestly most of our coaches are—we don't take the role too seriously!)
Relatedly, we have coaches who started as participants then Community of Practice hosts: Alisa Kuznetsova, Laura Green, @olimay. Most of them now have a better handle on the workshop content than I do even though I wrote it, because they've used it many times & more recently!
Woo! This was fun to write. I love getting the chance to collaborate with these friends & mutuals. It's a humbling thrill being in 40 coaching channels and encountering so much wisdom—from the coaches & from the participants' introspection 🤯 Want in? 👇 complice.co/event/plan2021…
@rothosphere for ontology, gotta go with DIY (that's a descriptive statement, not a prescriptive one)
@RokoMijicUK @drydenwtbrown I dig the aesthetic and think there's something important there, and also the concept of returning to any kind of trad feels confused to me. But choicelessness certainly has appeal, and there may yet be stable ways to do it, idk.
loooool me joshing 6 years ago re fake reality tv shows. good stuff
@cat_upgrades what you actually want is one knob, because with a button you might have to press it multiple times but a knob is always just one motion
Replying to @maxefremov
@maxefremov do me
@nickcammarata I am physics
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft Ugh I get these robotic marketing messages for the Complice site all the time
Retweeted @mattgoldenberg
I'm looking for a quote about how being miserable is a sign you can be controlled, because if you're happy, the authori…
Any Apple nerds out there? I'm currently using a brand new MacBook Pro, & it's already seeming weird. Running hot w fan when I just have 20 browser tabs open and literally nothing else (my old dell could handle 70 no issue) and recently plugged it in and it freaked. Bad sign?
Replying to @maxefremov
@maxefremov haha sounds like a fun hookup or comet or something
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania @meekaale @Beehtrix Yeah I'm not sure how hard it would be to do deeply integrated into twitter... might be able to do right on the page if you had a browser extension actually. But could start with the basic tech on its own page.
@cat_upgrades because you've been indoctrinated by Big Button ...personally I grew up with one that had a dial, and also had the chance to use a newer model with a virtual but still physical dial (as in it wasn't springloaded, it just lit up lights as you turned it)
Replying to @burkelibbey
@burkelibbey @TristanMiano nah Clan MacBook is its own thing
Replying to @btohtoh
@btohtoh @jstanotherview @rickbenger @RichDecibels Wow, nice! 🥰
@DoqxaScott I'd say no, even then. That's still enacting a battle, rather than a dance. What I'd do is ~subtweet - talk about what I think that's different than the original, and use my own thread as the place for open-minded curious discussion of the topic.
@alexhughsam @MarcKoenig_ @uberstuber @matthewfallshaw Used to take me a long time to fall asleep but mostly doesn't when I use this schedule. Although for the nap, I always lay there for the same amount of time basically, and sometimes I fall asleep in 2-3 minutes, other times it takes 10-15 or not at all. In any case, a meditation
@everytstudies Yeah the old models were completely confused, which McGilchrist notes. So your impression was accurate! But there's definitely *something* going on there—major anatomical differences which wouldn't have evolved without a reason, and huge differences in what happens post-stroke.
@everytstudies So yeah, McGilchrist's model surely isn't perfect, but it's at least a foundation to build on that has the right primitives, asking not "what does each hemisphere do?" in a kind of functional sense but "what is the basic attentional stance of each hemisphere? what kind of world?"
@RokoMijicUK if you want to coin a new word "tradhuman" and say it refers to a *particular* period/aesthetic/tradition, go for it 🤷♀️ I'm definitely +1 to uhh plants I'm just saying that "trad" as a more general concept is inherently contradictory because it implies choosing choicelessness
Some youtube mix just played a sample from Afroman's "Because I Got High" and it just struck me how that was a better PSA for me as a kid than almost anything else anyone said. It was just like "shit, he sounds like he's having fun but also that sounds like risky stuff 😬"
@mesolude I think you're basically correct here actually. The left hemisphere, which ofc is where the right hand motor cortex is, preferentially uses dopamine compared to the right hemisphere (which preferentially uses norepinephrine). [Source: Iain McGilchrist's books; idk original ref]
@mesolude Looking for sources I found this paper, which agrees and *also* finds a correlation between left-handedness and lower overall brain dopamine! (haven't read it very closely btw) sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
@GRITCULT is a materialist universe a fancy prison, because one can't escape? seems no: prison metaphor requires a jailer, not just a prisoner although a theistic universe perhaps *could* be a prison
@umbersorrow looks nippy out! ...😉
post the quietest picture you have twitter.com/nuanceexists/s…
Retweeted @Aella_Girl
Sometimes, my friends wonder why I get so upset by woke stuff. It doesn’t have power, they say. It’s not actually gonna aff…
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth @SarahAMcManus did this "sleep when you're tired" a bit back in the spring and in practice it often looked something like 10pm-11pm then 1am-8am which paired nicely with my 1am-8am + midday nap
@ElodesNL @fortelabs I had a similar experience with indie time-travel film Primer. Pretty good timing then, for a movie that needs a rewatch to come out during a pandemic when you can easily rewatch at home, rather than hitting theatres. (Good for consumer, not for hollywood.)
@protoneutype @goblinodds @WomanCorn @InstanceOfClass don't quote me on this but pretty sure my fb was talking about grognor's death a couple years ago... might've been a suicide.
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot separate from whether any of this was a good idea or whatever, this seems to me like something you couldn't actually test without applying it to everybody to find out how people actually relate to it, so this seems basically right to me, and kudos to them for rolling it back now
Thread · A protocol for learning to REM nap, and REM vs slow-wave deprivation · 1 of 8 tweets
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Great idea! Learning how to REM nap is a totally worthwhile skill although afaik it requires being exhausted for a few days. I played around with uberman & everyman in 2011 & 2013 and settled on biphasic. malcolmocean.com/2016/04/polyph…
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth ❤️ (btw Malcolm has 2 Ls)
@made_in_cosmos learned a lot about frames how people walk around talking in ways that make sense for the world they're in, without regard to how others are experiencing different worlds dug deep into this in the summer, but first exp was actually me being terrified by covid before housemates
@made_in_cosmos was thinking about this today as I watched a critical rationalist talk in ways that would seem just obviously true and correct to another critical rationalist but to me seem... incomplete? but it's hard to argue against because actual disagreement is on frame level
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth It's silent and a common mistake—totally understandable! (Lincoln & Chisholm have a similar silent L, and there's Holmes) Original Gaelic is Máel Coluim, not sure when the spelling & pronunciation shifted.
Thread · A protocol for learning to REM nap, and REM vs slow-wave deprivation · 5 of 8 tweets
@liminal_warmth My current "Learn to REM Nap" protocol reco would be: 1. stay up all night 2. starting ~8am, take a 20min nap every 2h for the next 24h or so 3. then 20min nap every 4h for 24-36h 4. then sleep as long as you feel like (to recharge SWS) 5. then repeat 1-4 immediately or weekly
@liminal_warmth ^ based on observation that SWS (slow-wave sleep) & REM sleep get deprived at different paces. REM you need like every night, so after 1 night missing it'll show up in naps. SWS you can miss for 2-3 days w/o noticing, but then FUCK WHY IS MY FACE MADE OF BRICKS.
@liminal_warmth These 2 kinds of deprivation feel totally different, and I think almost nobody who hasn't experienced insomnia or tried crazy sleephacking has experienced full SWS deprivation. It's absurdly awful. That feeling is your cue to sleep as long as you want (in this protocol).
@liminal_warmth Worth noting that this protocol I'm suggesting is not one I'm aware of anyone having tried explicitly, *although* it's a conservative subset of uberman (where you just keep to 20min nap every 4h) and everyman (where you switch to 1.5-4.5h core after a few days)
@liminal_warmth So it should be basically safer than either of those two, since you're not intending to actually spend days SWS-deprived. Those require being SWS-deprived in order to get the SWS to restructure itself into smaller containers, but you don't need that just to learn to REM nap.
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Cool! Lmk how it goes! May find lil tips in this 7yo post... not sure I still agree with it all tho, and certainly I'd write it differently now—it's pretty big on willpower. Becoming sleep-deprived on a schedule basically needs willpower tho maybe 🤔😮 malcolmocean.com/2013/08/polyph…
Retweeted @Conaw
@Conaw 🥲😭
@mesolude idk exactly but maybe something like more receptors for those neurotransmitters? narrow focus of LH seems in line with narrowing of focus caused by dopaminergic stimulants like adderall idk if there's a semantically obvious significance of norepinephrine 🔗 RH
@mesolude a rationalist friend of mine who was very into ML speculated that you could think of different neurotransmitters as kind of like being different colors of wire... not intrinsically meaningful but they're used in kind of patterned ways. loose metaphor but neat to consider
I don't have any existing writing on this but others might! My thoughts in brief: - make it clear which lists are which - when moving something to "to-do", be clear on "why?" and "why now/then?" - remove stuff from lists if it stops feeling alive/whyful
@everytstudies Yeah! Not sure what flavors you prefer so I'll give a few options. Option 1 is my tweetstorm summarizing a tiny 20-page book he wrote:
@everytstudies Intro option #2 is this excellent 44 minute podcast interview. metalearn.net/podcasts/ml41-…
@everytstudies Intro option #3 is this little RSA animate talk, which is the shortest & densest of the three, although there are some deeper implications & details that it doesn't go into. youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO…
@everytstudies My 1st introduction to it was this conversation between Jordan Peterson and McGilchrist, which is also noteworthy for showing JP in a relatively relaxed conversational style - unusual compared to his talks etc. It's a rich convo with friendly disagreement. youtube.com/watch?v=xtf4FD…
@everytstudies I realize you may feel sad or frustrated, as when I ask for a recommendation I usually want 1 thing, not a bunch of things (I hate "top 10 XYZ apps" lists. It's like, the reason I googled for recommendations was to not have to choose) but I'm serious about these all being good!
@m_ashcroft bro we need to make that list a lil longer how have we not had a face-to-face yet?
@m_ashcroft as long as I can still be in your review 😜 (in all seriousness, either way, all fine. week of Jan4-8 best for me)
Just published a blog post re the Complice Philosophy and how it differs from Getting Things Done! Main actions: choosing & doing (vs organizing) Emotional draw: aliveness (vs exhaustiveness) Main nouns: goals (vs tasks) Approach: proactive (vs reactive) malcolmocean.com/2020/12/compli…
@m_ashcroft On a totally different note I have you on a shortlist of people to reach out to about making a version of their online course that is structured like GCI (one big event with pre-recorded videos (which you already have) and live coaching.
"the kids who need the most love will ask for it in the most unloving of ways" true of adults too note: you're not obliged to give it! but if it's an aspect of yourself, or your partner, it's worth taking this seriously (see IFS; read You Are The One You've Been Waiting For)
Retweeted @michaelcurzi
What’s the word for a person who is perfectly & actively in favor of the status quo Things that arent it: Reactionary (…
@Conaw @vgr as always, loving your recognition of the subtle importances of the structure of things gimme dat topic
@rothosphere coaches primarily compete on sales/marketing, which makes it an industry for lemons therapists, at least conceptually, are sort of undifferentiated... they differ in focus and quality, but you end up at one not from a marketing page but from like "hmm I should get therapy"
@rothosphere I have had the wonderful luxury of getting to coach while doing almost no marketing, because running complice.co (and blogging) has caused dozens of people over the years to approach me directly, with no particular pitch about what I offer or why you should buy it
@rothosphere this is partially a luxury because sales/marketing takes time, and partially because it is a recipe for goodharting but the main thing is like, I don't want to have to *compete* with anyone at the skill of "marketing oneself as a coach" (nearly orthogonal to skill of coaching)
@JeffLadish unfortunately part of the whole concept of trad is choicelessness, afaict
@PrinceVogel @JeffLadish I like you.
@jeremywreal @michaelcurzi Yeah this is where my brain first went too except it came up with "statist" and I was like "wait,,,"
@michaelcurzi I think it's an impossible position now that there's been this much change, because it somehow requires you to believe that all past change was improvements but any further change would be mistaken. Which is just absurdly unlikely, beyond being emotionally uninteresting.
@michaelcurzi Before there had been this much change in single lifetimes, this is what "traditional" or "conservative" meant have meant, because there was a plausible (though still obviously false if you actually looked) perspective from which things had "always been like this"
@texasfirearm you may want to listen to this youtube.com/watch?v=fmWQXk…
Retweeted @rothosphere
First they came for the white people, and I did not speak up, because that would be white fragility t.co/eOP05zd9HJ
I know punishment usually doesn't work from like, a systems/learning perspective, but man, when I get a spammy salesy email I'm sad that the best I can do is mark spam, ignore it or send an angry bunch of text in response. My body wants to slap the sender: how fucking dare you?
Same feeling showed up when I read the recent news about the antitrust lawsuit filed against Google. A feeling of wanting to set aside the bureaucracy & limited liability bullshit and talk to some humans and be like "what the fuck guys how could you possibly think that was ok?"
I think there's something important to the human element of it—human connection and values are the only way we can avoid being completely goodharted by competitive incentives but... people learn *how* you do things more than what, so fear/anger/panic-based approaches beget more
@AskYatharth @Knipps Continues to be so fucking exciting to me that you can put words to all of this stuff.
Retweeted @AskYatharth
@Knipps @Malcolm_Ocean Reminds me of this tweet where 💀 societal broke = if X can’t trust me, I’m untrustworthy 🦄 liber…
@jambarree Makes sense! This was lightly edited from something that had been on the Complice site for a few months, although it wasn't very prominent: complice.co/philosophy
@jambarree Kind of embarrassingly, I wrote most of it back in 2015, with some substantial edits last year when I made the page I just linked. I had been meaning for a long time to write way more and then I realized "wait I should just publish this as-is"
@visakanv Love it. Yeah, that would very much be my style. But I feel like a lot of them would reply with their original pitch, ignoring my question, and then I'd just have another email to deal with, that would be harder to quickly ignore because it would look like a real convo.
Retweeted @RichDecibels
if we were more skilful in discussing polarity without amplifying it, this "culture war" wouldn't exist
@thewiseturtle @MatjazLeonardis Mmm, caveat aside, I like the aesthetic of this one. Could even specifically take the photo in front of a building that's being constructed.
@MatjazLeonardis Grow your hair or beard long, dye it a super weird color, take a photo with the hair like that, then cut it. (This isn't a perfect plan but in practice it sort of kind of works informally, like "oh yeah that's a picture of me from before I cut my hair")
@utotranslucence Is it mostly time-delay that kills the momentum? Or something else?
@utotranslucence Having trouble figuring out what I would want to say just in response to this tweet, but I'd be happy to talk about it with you out loud! Not before this weekend tho. Could even record the convo & post it somewhere if we thought it would be generally useful. Or not, whichever.
@natural_hazard @DRMacIver Totally. Stoked that more & more people are seeing this.
@natural_hazard @DRMacIver @AskYatharth being another:
@everytstudies Cool! Curious what you think about it and happy to dialogue on whatever level :)
Retweeted @SarahAMcManus
"I'm like a beaver, but for makeshift standing desks" - @Malcolm_Ocean
and anyone who tries to rescue people who are victimized by the carp tweets... ...is just completing the Karpman drama triangle! 🔻
Retweeted @chriswaterguy
My good & kind friend Frazer & family seek a housemate in Mountain View, Bay Area. We met at a hippie festival. He ran…
@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner Mmm, a few thoughts. I do think the word "intuitive" is playing multiple roles here. Someone once described Complice as "counter-intuitive until you learn how to use it then very intuitive", which... 🤔🤯 "intuitive" in this sense might map more onto System 1 than a hemisphere
@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner System 1 as in "automatic processing done by the brain", which is in both hemispheres. You walk into a room: What's the headcount? LH immediately answers "5" What's the vibe? RH immediately answers "chill" Both S1, inasmuch as that model holds at all: lesswrong.com/posts/HbXXd2gi…
@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner I wrote this comment on that post, elaborating on my model of how brain hemispheres relate to S1/S2: (also includes a brief reference to the emotional brain as distinct from other kinds of cognition) lesswrong.com/posts/HbXXd2gi…
@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner So, the upshot of all of this is perhaps "counter-intuitive" means "that which doesn't make automatic sense". Intuition can be trained, so driving on the left side of the road is intuitive for brits whereas driving on the right is counter-intuitive.
@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner So in relation to the hemispheres, this can go either direction. Sometimes LH has an automatic response and you need to say "wait, no, let's sense into this with RH". Sometimes RH has an automatic response and you need to say "wait, no, let's do the math here"
Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets
@Jeanvaljean689 tweeted some reflections on the counter-intuitive meanings of the word "counter-intuitive" 🙃 then summoned me to comment re McGilchrist. So this link is to halfway down; scroll up for context of what I'm replying to:
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft Fun fact: if you have 2 close hues that clash, you can fix the clashing by adding 1-3 MORE close but slightly different hues.
I learned to blow smoke rings without ever having smoked any drugs, when a friend of mine who'd bought a nicotine-free vape gave it to me because his system was completely not fooled even from the first puff, and so he had no interest in it.
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth idk but if you've made it even once you're doing better than some people
@fortelabs If it really gets me jazzed, I start wanting to play the drums really loudly. (I haven't owned a drum kit in 15+ years but I recently bought a thing called freedrum that is supposed to let you drum in the air and have it make sounds! Haven't got it set up yet but we'll see!)
Retweeted @captain_mrs
Non-coercion is easy: only* do** what*** feels**** good***** (10 pages of footnotes)
@myceliummage @EggProphet o god now my brain is singing your original tweet as inside of you there are two carp
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
The whole "consumer vs creator" dialectic would become instantly more helpful, if people understood it for what it trul…
@Jeanvaljean689 Oooh nice. Need a bit of both, and importantly need to also find out how to bring flirtatious energy to a committed relationship.
@nclaurence broke: if I'm going down, I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME woke: if I'm going up, I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME
Replying to @breathofdesire_
@breathofdesire_ this morning when my alarm song (currently Better by Cody Fry & Cory Wong) came on but also pretty much always last time I danced at all self-consciously was midsummer when there were some bboys breakdancing in uptown waterloo and I wanted to join but was nervous bc their space
QTing this without having read it yet so that it finds its way back in my queue to read sometime later by people interacting with this tweet or whatever I sense it's good stuff based on the excerpt and a rave review by @collinofzion twitter.com/willlowthewhis…
@theorangealt Guy whose answer varies a lot. Sometimes I have a bunch of pairs of cool pants and like wearing different ones different days for different outfits. But I can also be in a vibe of "I have 1 pant and it is this" for an extended period of time.
Retweeted @RichDecibels
truth is not breaking down, it's that our myths are becoming desynchronised
WaPo was like "2fa tho" and I'm like "why tho you're just a newspapepr? i hav no private data witchu" and then I was like "wait this isn't for my safety this is to keep me from sharing my acct w ppl" at any rate, looking forward to subscribing to something else next year
Last chance to register for the first session of our Goal-Crafting Intensive, starting in a few hours—ticket sales close in 1.5h. We're excited! 🤩 (is it just me or does that emoji kinda feel like the closest to jazz hands?) complice.co/event/plan2021…
To see the amazing coaches we've got lined up (not all of them are at each session) check out this thread 👇
Btw we're pretty spacious in terms of how we think about the concept of "goal"... no need for legible metrics or deadlines.
Here's a thread that breaks down that definition a lot more:
@DoqxaScott there's a site bugmenot.com that's used for sharing of logins, although it's not supposed to be used for paywalled stuff, just things that are like "make a free account to access" bs
Replying to @HiredThought
@HiredThought Prepping for & running an online workshop on goal-setting, planning, execution, reflection. (We've run 20 sessions over the past few years though so it's pretty routine at this point though, not like omg opening night.)
@HiredThought Btw would love to collaborate with you to make a WardleyMapping workshop with the same kind of intensive structure. I think that could work really well.
Replying to @HiredThought
@HiredThought @TheDavidHoll Oh awesome. Let's have a call soon. I've been wanting to learn Wardley Mapping myself but wary of signing up for any sort of course because...
.@SarahAMcManus: "...so, if that content exists in a form that's... easily GoogleDockleable..." me: "..." Sarah: "why did I inflict that on you?" me: "idk but we're gonna inflict it on twitter"
Sarah: "I don't know if there's a K..." me: "I think there is and that's part of what's awful about it"
Retweeted @AbhayPrasanna
So excited to be attending the @CompliceGoals Goal Crafting Intensive this evening. It feels beautiful that it is occurr…
psychologist is talking to a little girl, who's not saying much psychologist: "why won't you talk with me?" girl: "because I hate you!" psy: "mm! how long will you hate me?" girl: "forever!" psy: "and how long will you hate me forever?" girl bursts out laughing 🤣 ...connection!
👆 true story I think, paraphrased from a source I forget... some book or article I read a month ago. Anyway, I've found it an illuminating exposition on the nature of how the emotional brain does time.
me: "let's do a pomodoro!" @SarahAMcManus: ... me: "or... I guess we could... not 😔" Sarah: "how long will you be abandoned forever?" me: "well, 25 minutes I guess"
@meekaale @ievalange bro, I feel you
@garybasin Not sure this is quite the same but... paulgraham.com/jessica.html
@garybasin (#2 in the sense of not being nearly as visible, for various reasons; in other senses, not any different in rank from pg himself)
@visakanv me too! and I also find myself curious: "like this" how?
Replying to @peternlimberg
@peternlimberg @digitalairair @tyson_flows @Travisomann @danielmingram @dthorson @HiNaryan @spiral_virus @aletheic @dkazand @KhalilJRMartin stoked for the replay of this.
> BTW its only today that I realized that you don't have gangster-style teardrop tattoo, but a birthmark > which is mostly a relief — @about_agrippa to me just now, at one of the GCI workshops 😂😂😂
If your device can copy this, change the pilot... ▂▄▄▓▄▄▂ ◢◤█▀████▄▄▄▄▄▄◢◤ █🙃█▀▀▀▀▀▀╬ ◥█████◤ ══╩══╩══ twitter.com/Dweefle/status…
@BecomingCritter the currency that my onlyfans would need to bill in hasn't been invented yet
@uncatherio @SarahAMcManus and I just moved to British Columbia (Vancouver/Island area) Haven't been there long enough to have a detailed take but definitely come visit❣️ So far we like that even in winter it's mossy not snowy, which is unusual for Canada. Looking to meet resonant people!
Retweeted @AskYatharth
@myceliummage a humble mage in the sheets a fungal rage in the streets spreading their memes kissing your dreams may the m…
I want to empower everybody! 🤩🚀 ...partially because I can't do everything myself 😂
This feels like a very pithy articulation of what being an enneagram 7w8 looks like for me.
@DRMacIver Reminded me of two songs from Barenaked Ladies album Maroon: Helicopters: youtube.com/watch?v=lwkJMF… Tonight Is the Night I Fell Asleep at the Wheel: youtube.com/watch?v=kXo__e… 😂
@rothosphere @acidshill Oh interesting. Wondering to what extent we're hanging in the same twitter circles... the one I'm in seems super accepting, although there are still things I don't tweet because it's twitter and I could get mobbed by unrelated peeps.
Retweeted @EpistemicHope
What's a survey question that would distinguish between... "I am very into this woke stuff because I personally think i…
Hmmm... could probably 80/20 this with a friend. Which is not to say the trainer version isn't also worth it, but yeah, hm. @AskYatharth wanna co-life this?
Self-referential poll time! Are people's answers to this poll most likely to be affected by...
> Comprehension is difficult enough in actual conversation, when mutual comprehension is a shared goal. Often people think they are talking about the same thing, and then find out that they meant two completely different things. Great article deconstructing averagerianism.
@the_wilderless it's super weird too because the "your mood" one would potentially get picked more often if it had an emoji next to it, but that would imply that "word choice" (if we count emoji therein) is more important!
@uberstuber @celzalejandro @cullinmcgrath > close all of my tabs you just... . ... .. close 'em? fuc
fuc
@uberstuber I have them pretty much everywhere also nap thoughts
This makes a fair bit of sense to me! TL;DR risk-free options like bonds are unattractive, but liquidity is high, so money is pouring into stocks
@EpistemicHope This seems like an important question and one well worth investigating, though I'm not yet sure how I'd approach it. One hazard ofc being that surveys are kinda, well, hazardous.
Thread · Spatial metaphors for human systems: bridges, depth perception, diversity · 1 of 24 tweets
Alright, 1 hour worth of thoughts on: Spatial metaphors for human systems for @threadapalooza
In a few minutes, I'll be doing a @threadapalooza! I don't yet know what about. Some topic that @Conaw has presumably given me by now, in response to my reply to this tweet. I haven't looked yet!
I really like the 1h vibe. My attempt last year ended up feeling aversive and homeworky and I didn't go back to it. But I can do a 1h showtime. malcolmocean.com/2020/10/deadli…
Soundtrack... go! soundcloud.com/timgunter/hori…
"The opposite of war isn't peace—it's creation!"
Thread · Spatial metaphors for human systems: bridges, depth perception, diversity · 15 of 24 tweets
1/ Okay, let's start with BRIDGES! (first that came to mind) This is a common human system metaphor, people talking about bridging between cultures or perspectives, or communities/individuals.
2/ In fact it's the metaphor @vgr used in the prompt he gave me for @threadapalooza last year, in a thread I never finished:
3/ The bridge metaphor is kind of an obvious one: forging some kind of translation connection between two different perspectives. It's a kinda limited connection though. In fact, the word "translation", in the context of mathematics, means "to move across" which matches bridge
4/ So a bridge, as a metaphor, is a way to move one perspective across to another. But let's contrast that with the metaphor of "depth perception", where the two perspectives are integrated into a larger whole. Way harder than bridging, & more potent.
5/ Bridging between two perspectives seems to me like a bit of a kind of "peace" opposite of war. You've got civility, and not total difference. And it's a necessary first step. But it's only barely creating something new.
6/ The depth perception metaphor continues to blow my mind and feels really important to understanding the value of difference.
7/ I recall a convo with @rjgoodin a few years ago where we were talking about people valuing "diversity", and the sense in which it has intrinsic value, not just market value (another metaphor btw) ie it's valuable not just because people want it
8/ However, the same valuable potential energy that's available in diversity can be destructive if there's more of it than can be effectively integrated. If you plugged a thousand cameras into your brain, you'd go crazy before you could integrate all those perspectives.
9/ A natural metaphor for this is that difference in perspective is like nuclear fission energy: you need a minimum critical mass to get anything interesting to happen at all, but then if you have more than that... you get an explosive bomb that's hard to control
10/ More diversity, in this sense, isn't simply better. So there needs to be some equivalent of the nuclear control rods that govern the critical mass and maintain the capacity for safe dialogue, to avoid explosions. This can take many forms. But what even is governance?
11/ Hmmm... "govern". Do ppl know about flyball governors? Super cool device that automatically regulates the speed of engines by turning increased speed into grav potential energy + centrifugal force that in turn slows the spinning. Great metaphor for self-governing systems.
12/ By contrast, a lot human groups have positive feedback loops around regulating group conflict and tension. As the thing speeds up, you get pulled to the outside where it's harder to hold on!
13/ And of course when people go flying they then end up traumatized and guarded in future interactions. The other thing that's cool about the flyball governor is that the potential energy that's stored automatically gets used to restore speed if the engine power drops 😮
14/ Anyway, the point of talking about the flyball governor, aside from "it's super cool!" is to point at how governance can be something that's built into the system rather than tacked on top, and it NEEDS to be something that can regulate in both directions, otherwise WHOOPS
15/ One metaphor I've heard people use for regulating group dynamics is of a cell membrane (what's my prompt again? "Spatial metaphors for human systems" ...idk what counts as spatial - everything's pretty spatial to me. I guess I'll avoid computer stuff tho—doing great so far)
Thread · Membranes as a metaphor for group boundaries · 10 of 11 tweets
Ahh fuckit part of my @threadapalooza thread had a clear subtopic and wanted to be its own thread. Here's the thread about "membranes" as a metaphor for groups of people.
15a/ Membranes. Monists go on about how everything is one, which is true in a sense but also have you noticed that some things are inside and some things are outside? The role of skin, or the walls of a house, or a windshield on a car, is it keeps inside in & outside out.
15b/ Membranes can be applied to groups, and we can talk about a few different kinds of membranes that you might see around a particular group of people: - closed membrane - closed web - semipermeable membrane - open network
15c/ Closed Membrane: eg a company, family or country. Maybe a way to join it, but you need an active & explicit invitation by the members, whether that’s a job application or a marriage or an immigration process. Lots of intentional community houses are also like this.
15d/ Closed Web: consider a friend group. You don't exactly need an invitation from everyone in the group to join, but you do need to make friends with *someone* in the group. Polycules (except polyfidelity) work similarly, usually.
15e/ Semipermeable Membrane: ~anyone can join; there might be a requirement like buying membership, but you can just do it. Or going vegan. Or there might be a requirement of actually showing up, like Kevin Kelly's description of the Camp 4 scenius: kk.org/thetechnium/sc…
15f/ (note that semipermeable membranes do need to eject people sometimes, but only if the person’s presence is actively disrupting the group, either asshole-style or by undermining the norms, eg by arguing using blatant logical fallacies at rationalist parties)
15g/ Open Network: doesn’t have clear boundaries at all (not a membrane) and is more of a description of an emergent cluster in people-space. The region of twitter I hang out in is sometimes referred to as “strangely earnest twitter”.
15h/ How many ppl have heard of the phrase “strangely earnest twitter”, or identify with being part of it? It existed before it had that name. It overlaps with many other seemingly-unrelated twitter networks. Rather than joining such a group, you find yourself in it.
15i/ There are probably more types than this, but this is an initial typology that seems helpful for thinking about the nature of groups. All of these types are necessary, *and* you're gonna have a bad time if there isn't clarity about the nature of a particular group/membrane.
Thread · Spatial metaphors for human systems: bridges, depth perception, diversity · 8 of 24 tweets
15.....? welp this is its own thread now: (about 10 tweets - it'll link back here at the bottom so you can navigate)
16/ ...six minutes left, what else is important? I better say something about hierarchy. Hierarchy, as the assymetric organization of things into different functional levels, is a vital part of this beautiful fractal universe. It can breed power abuses, but so can any context.
17/ Trees are hierarchical in organizing how the roots connect to the branches and out to the leaves. There are also of course rhizomes or weird wandery cacti that don't have a clear hierarchy, but even these have cellular hierarchy. This is called a functional hierarchy.
18/ The "can't see the forest for the trees" metaphor is another example of hierarchy, in this case more in terms of abstraction. Trees are one level of abstraction, one level of analysis, forest is another. Up higher is maybe a whole biome or climate.
19/ Anyway, hierarchy is basically necessary for organizing large structures, but it doesn't have to be command hierarchy, and it doesn't even have to be *centralized* hierarchy! Your brain has parallel hierarchies where each level has many connections both up and down.
20/ Of course the default result if you try to apply that to a human system is a shitshow—matrix organizations are kind of an example of such an attempt, as is this message that happened at Spotify. jeremiahlee.com/posts/failed-s…
21/ I think we can do it though, and that's part of my vision outlined in this thread 👇 But it'll require a totally different capacity for each node to do self-authored prioritization, as well as way better communication than most companies have.
....fin? It's been a little over an hour but I wanted to finish my initial thoughts. I think I can keep going, but I don't want to make that into homework for myself. This has been a ton of fun and I want to find ways to do it more.
Thread · Membranes as a metaphor for group boundaries · 1 of 11 tweets
Click below to return to the original @threadapalooza chain:
@mayfer right, membranes are required in order to maintain any kind of dynamic order, because somehow energy needs to be imported and entropy needs to be exported (although of course there is no away)
Replying to @warmbott
@warmbott @uberstuber @lisatomic5 I'm 7w8 and, appropriately to 7w8, here's one way I'm strangely earnest:
@rothosphere @acidshill Umm... I mean yeah I guess, but only basic ones that you wouldn't hold 😛 Like boring political takes that are just like "establishment party X is the best imaginable approach to politics". Though even there there'd probably be interesting discussion.
@rothosphere @acidshill Note that that's about views etc. People wouldn't take kindly to you trying to bust the vibe. Although we're cultivating an unkillable meta-vibe so that would probably go okay on some level of abstraction too.
@Conaw @vgr It is done! Loved the prompt ❣️
@startuployalist @AskYatharth Love it, and loving how my putting out this idea of friends prompted you to articulate more clearly what's so potent about the trainer.
"If there weren't some sense to the apparently senseless thing you did, you would have done some *different* apparently senseless thing." —me trying to articulate the core premises of Coherence Therapy
@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner Re "order" in emotions...
@robertskmiles I mean if you've got big / lots of gear and aren't travelling a bunch, then I'd recommend doing something a bit more sturdy than cardboard boxes. I feel like it's something I've just had a knack for and the only difference years later is just that I'm faster at it, not better.
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Guessing you didn't based on your tweets the last few days seeming pretty ordinary 😛
@utotranslucence hmmm third bullet point makes me wonder if something like working with the garage door up might allow there to be more momentum even when your energy goes "behind the scenes"
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft This is not an official thing I've read btw but it just seems true and I have done it myself (mostly with 3-5 purples) And it kinda jives with this answer to the Q "why doesn't nature clash?"
@acidshill @meditationstuff non-Vickrey a lot more fun as we get to see people bidding
@shrinetothevine @m_altcroft me rn, literally wearing a tree shirt with a color gradient on it
I was discussing this with @m_ashcroft & @visakanv the other day in the Treefort actually.
@visakanv @m_ashcroft I just invited you to our calendar event, but @m_ashcroft owns it MA, can you rename it + maybe make it 90 mins long?
@visakanv @fortelabs @AskYatharth just mentioned this ^ to you
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia totally, yeah
Retweeted @RichDecibels
May all ingroup beings be happy May all ingroup beings be well May all ingroup beings be free May all ingroup beings be p…
Retweeted @gnomicperfect
So, I show up @ The Stoa, log in to into Twitter for the first time since 08, de-hermitize just ever so slightly after…
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft @shrinetothevine 😀 It's one of my favorite shirts! 🥰 Artist is Elspeth McLean and has a bunch of other stuff for sale on Redbubble but unfortunately most of her designs don't have full-size-print shirts like this one. Though I did recently email her about that! redbubble.com/people/elspeth…
@Podge_G @reasonisfun Very much same wavelength! (although I often say it's important to honour them, in a different sense that's more like "recognize the validity of and sacredness of one's thinking process")
@Podge_G Holy shit, this is fucking awesome. Love the key change or whatever that is about halfway through. I would love to jam with you sometime if we're ever in the same place! (and there might be some virtual collabs possible too!)
@m_ashcroft Vancouver doesn't have snow so this local grocery store spraypainted some pumpkins 😂
@malnote you might find this book summary helpful for figuring out why it doesn't work when it doesn't work idk who's got the best theory of why it does when it does lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3…
@__justplaying @visakanv @captain_mrs = Rebel in @gretchenrubin's framework book: amazon.com/Four-Tendencie…
@captain_mrs I grew up w no TV, and watch very few shows & movies. ppl are often surprised when I say things like "cool, I've added that to my list of movies to not walk out of the room if someone has them playing" or "list of shows I'll watch if I want to snuggle with someone who wants to"
Life update: @SarahAMcManus & I moved across Canada to BC! We haven't settled anywhere, as we're looking to explore different regions and communities, but we're on the coast (not 🏔️ where @FutureThinkers_ SmartVillage is setting up) Would love intros to cool BC ppl you know! 👋
@wholezero @SarahAMcManus @FutureThinkers_ not at OAK? it seems there might be a way to meet in the Peace Arch Park which is right on the border we can look into it
Thread · Six years of makeshift standing desks · 3 of 15 tweets
Here's an excellent set-up using the TV at a motel in Northern Ontario while on roadtrip across Canada with @SarahAMcManus
This shelf is probably the first serious time I've had monitors side-by-side in about 7 years. Kinda novel but I way prefer the above-below set-up for a host of reasons. Though hard to tell at this phase if that's not just because I'm used to it.
...literally hours after arriving at this new airbnb, I've got this new set-up. This is when I made this 🦫 beaver remark that Sarah quoted 👇
Retweeted @visakanv
but sensei aren't you scared?? "i'm fucking terrified 24/7 lol" oh. uh. so how do I be... "be what?" how do I live life g…
Retweeted @DRMacIver
I was talking to @AskYatharth yesterday at the goal crafting intensive (complice.co/event/plan2021) and we both agreed that it…
@meekaale @CompliceGoals 😂😂😂 ☮️☮️☮️ ✌️✌️✌️
@meekaale @CompliceGoals There's a beta feature you can enable at complice.co/settings/labs where you can customize these questions, including on a per-goal basis—might be a fit for your situation.
Tomorrow (in about 15h) I'm giving a talk on The Stoa, immediately after David Allen's GTD talk, called... ...Complice: Beyond Getting Things Done 🙃 twitter.com/peternlimberg/…
@morty_lin Hello I am a friendly face from the future here to remind you of this intention that you had, and get you in touch with this if you'd lost track ❣️
I'll talk about the Complice philosophy & workflow, by contrasting it with what most people are used to, which is usually some sort of collapsed version of GTD with a few components missing. Here's the registration link: zoom.us/meeting/regist…
I've written about this topic as well, but the talk can be a change to go deeper, refine my model in realtime with Q&A and critique, and explore some experiential practices @AskYatharth & I have been developing, for tasting purpose-oriented mindset.
Replying to @warmbott
@warmbott @uberstuber @lisatomic5 I'm not sure honestly. broadly just seems like the world is more awesome obvi have to empower people in a particular order (or way) for that to be true, blah blah, etc I'm working on it :P
@jborichevskiy ha, cool!
@nuanceexists @chaosprime @antonjw Yeah, to be clear, the initial remark about trusting oneself was not intended to be a standalone compile-&-run piece of life advice. Twas an excerpt from a longer conversation, where I was pointing at some confusions, then noting a meta-thing about abuse of pointing-at-confusion
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania I thought the Spiral Dynamics cultural-evolution model came before the integral version focused on individuals...? (Long & decent article talking about how the recoloring Wilber did is hard to justify: integralworld.net/visser101.html)
Replying to @quotidiania
What would your job be in the Game B meta-commune?
@rothosphere say more,,,?
@_StevenFan nice how can you start doing this already?
@the_wilderless agreed that the reminder is needed; will also caveat that the capacity to talk about it without causing more tangles is not straightforward the dickishness is protecting something sacred and also needs to be dialogued with and it's still dickish wat do
8h until my talk right after David Allen's GTD talk called "Complice: Beyond Getting Things Done" Still kinda can't believe @peternlimberg was down to call it that, but easiest way to convey Complice is to contrast it with what people are used to! RSVP @ thestoa.ca
@kenakennedy a lot of FOMO means the need for a REALLY strong membrane
@jordanmoore its dangerous to go alone take this youtube.com/watch?v=4njIRg…
@XformByDesign So you're saying you're a huge fan? ...or a (de)composer?
@Patrick_T_Ander THIS. I don't know what the answer to it is, or even how to answer it exactly, but I know that finding an answer that everyone is satisfied with is core to solving the puzzle of making an actual Game B meta-commune that is worthy of the name.
@m_ashcroft No then Yes (sorta) Moved schools when I was 14 and kinda reinvented myself a bit from having been the shy nerdy teacher's pet. Helped that new school had a culture of being smart being cool.
@Alex_Danco ppl need to upgrade their metaphors to flyball governors
@SeanMombo Huh! Couldn't see the leg tension nearly as clearly in your other vids, but since this is a move I know (after I cornered someone at a club and got him to teach it to me) it's much more obvious. I sometimes do this move instead of jumping jacks during a workout 🙃
Replying to @SeanMombo
@SeanMombo Ha, I dig it.
Seems like the obvious attractor, at least among my peeps.
Replying to @nuanceexists
@nuanceexists @chaosprime @antonjw Yeah, there's also something about what the entire concept of "trustworthy" implies.... like I think for many people there'd be a sense of "if I trusted someone, then X" and I wouldn't necessarily have that "X" as part of my model, or something. Feeling a little scattered, hm.
@chaosprime @antonjw like any thought experiment, depends on the actual situational context, the nature of the relationship, how we got there, etc but might call them out on it, if that seemed wise or might end the relationship, if that seemed wise etc etc whatever makes sense to me
@DougTataryn Haha yeah, I'm probably gonna invent my own flatpack thing if I keep travelling. Needs to hold my external monitor though too.
Retweeted @edelwax
I've started making "bipartite checklists". First item is a to-do; second is some kind of "energy I expect back from the unive…
fuc
@AskYatharth @DarbraDawn I had a kind of naive anger, then I stuffed that into my shadow, and now I'm in the process of learning how to express it in ways that still allow a lot of space for people to have their own experience.
@jonnym1ller @kellycwilde a) given me... a sense of not-aloneness along certain dimensions related to design b) ummm I mean go check out this thread where I get really excited about GCI coaches. tons of great followers 🚀
Replying to @kellycwilde
@kellycwilde @Twitter Oh yeah this is good vibes. Hi hi!
@sweetimmanence Whoa I have some taste of that insight but I have no idea how you'd get it from cocaine 😮
@p_millerd ahhh so important love the combo too
@Patrick_T_Ander Also the hard part might be scaling this aspect—some people want to do it so nobody has to. (I sometimes feel this about taking out the compost. I feel glad that my friends etc don't have to deal with the smell.)
@collinofzion @m_ashcroft Somehow this reminded me of how when I was like 12 I used to meditate at dances. Like everyone else is bomping to whatever Top 40 songs are playing, and I'm sitting there in the middle of the dancefloor just... being present. No idea where I got the idea!
@m_ashcroft @jonnym1ller @kellycwilde
@AskYatharth @ckmcdona Yeah there's a thing where things transition through "disease" on the way from "moral failing" to something more nuanced. Also happened with homosexuality.
Retweeted @RobertHaisfield
Designing for behavior change is a fundamental differentiator for products. If all apps needed were unique features, t…
Thread · Distraction as a less threatening form of helplessness
Man, I'm feeling... heavy. There's something big in my system and I have a few hazy senses what it's about, but I don't know how to move it. I think I'm allowing in a lot more awareness of it than I usually would have though.
One of the things I've been working on with my Coherence Therapist is the recognition that I've had a kind of distraction energy that comes in over top of a kind of more panicked thing, and that feels a bit related here.
A surprising realization we had in the session yesterday was that while the internal effect of the distraction is that I don't really notice the panic... ...there's actually a sense in which the distraction is maintaining the same sense of helplessness as the panic embodies!
I've got schemas—some from childhood, some more recently—that say something like "if I actually get panicked, people will be angry at me or push me away, or freak out, so I need to find a way to exhibit helplessness that's less threatening" ...apparently that looks like collapse
but of course, being someone who has a ton of energy, collapse doesn't look like a flop (usually) it looks like being kind of scattered/overwhelmed/all-over-the-place a kind of drowning feel, which resonates with something that I've often felt meditating
anyway, so I can kind of feel myself at the edge of a lot of that feeling, and it feels pretty scary and there's also a meta-observer that's present, and kinda just curious how things are going to play out
the feeling is pretty aversive. I don't like it. that's okay. I don't have to like it
@rothosphere I read this as "gods" and welp
@terrycloth11 @chaosprime Haha I missed the joke too because I parsed it as more of an observation, and I guess like... something like "the actions you are led into by fear of this threat will be evil, though nobody may call you evil for them" See also this related take:
Retweeted @nosilverv
@nosilverv this is kinda what my roamblog is for (intertwingled.blog) although sometimes I gradually flesh it out
Replying to @ACryptberg
@ACryptberg @mayfer @Plinz @cowtung
Retweeted @patio11
This enables a *much more important* innovation than double-blind addressing, which is virtual addressing. DNS for mail. You…
Retweeted @altversachi
Just reg'd for a goal setting workshop with @CompliceGoals! I signed up for Complice a few months ago but dropped off in o…
Galaxy brain: all-at-once choose-your-own-adventure courses like our Goal-Crafting Intensives 👇 complice.co/event/plan2021…
@vidythatte stoked to join your beta!
@AskYatharth @Jenlky @ckmcdona @DRMacIver Haaaaa I kinda do actually but multiple layers of abstraction removed
@GeniesLoki you too?
I like ppl that build prototypes. Check out next tweet (in my thread) for demo of video of him looking into the camera using lil teleprompter
Nice! Eye contact. twitter.com/zachphillips/s…
@MilanGriffes AlphaZero's utility function is within the frame of the game. It doesn't know it exists, it just answers the question "what is the best next move?" as deeply as it can.
@zachphillips I think part of this paradox comes from the fact that the marginal investment to record podcast interviews after writing a book is very low, but the quality of the interview is profoundly improved by having written the book in the first place.
@zachphillips There are also some authors who say something like "why do people want to listen to an interview with me? the book is an articulation I spent 1000h on. I sound like an idiot live." (can't find original tweet, vague feeling @fortelabs or @visakanv or @juliagalef might know)
@BecomingCritter Kung-POW: Enter the Fist (haven't seen since I was like 11; probably would just be cringing the whole time if I watched it now, but at the time I knew it was bad and didn't care)
@acidshill this can apply interestingly to people within institutions A: hi, can we get the free flu vaccine? B: you're not eligible A: can we get paid flu vaccine? B: out of stock A: ... B: our approach: fill out the form & say you're in contact w high-risk ppl, then we can give you free
some people just want to watch the world earn
@acidshill @daemonhugger @the_wilderless depends on if they're willing to break ranks and whether you can safely find out
@selfprime So they're still charging large businesses 30% but they've cut a break for (some) small businesses?
@TylerAlterman I'm proud of you.
@goblinodds Yeah I definitely think you're @selentelechia much of the time, until I do a double-take.
Hazy sense of there being a negotiation tactic where you don't immediately say "yes" or "no" but instead say "I'll have to run this by my wife/cofounder/board" and somehow that helps but I forget how and googling it is giving me internal-to-relationship advice.
I've been tweeting a bunch about the Goal-Crafting Intensive workshops my crew hosts this time of year. I try to make the threads themselves meaningful & useful for the most part. How's the experience for you? It's important to me to not be coming off as salesy etc.
@DRMacIver Ahh: agreed in the fight-as-sport sense, absolutely. I was thinking more on the fight-as-total-war end of the spectrum.
@mchapiro @JimmyRis Antoine de Saint-Exupéry vibes: > “If you want to build a ship, don’t drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea.”
some people just want to watch the world turn (re moon colonies)
@zachphillips Do you vibe with this vision 👇 and if-so what are the things you want to be doing more of and the things you'd love to have other people be doing?
People are so bad at metaphors. Was looking for a source for the "burn your ships" metaphor, & I found the specific story - Hernán Cortés arriving in New World. But the examples they gave mostly aren't true ship-burning. Ship-burning is hard but don't dilute! #MetaphorsMatter
Gonna try to give some better examples of ship-burning. One: making the leap to a new career without trying to keep any Plan Bs in the old career. Extreme example: get a tattoo or piercing that would make you unhirable in your old profession.
(Caveat: you may not want to burn your *bridges*, as relationships with former colleagues might be valuable for the transition. Cortés probably emptied the useful stuff off the ships before setting them on fire.)
Another is like, true commitment contracts, when they work well, work this way. If you know that either you do X or you pay @bmndr $$$, and there's no doubt about that, then sometimes distractions just vanish because the answer is obvious: decisive victory
That's what I've got for now. This thread hasn't gone viral (I literally haven't tweeted it yet) but the one real track on my old soundcloud is called "On Fire" and features a "burning bridge" metaphor (used more in the "burn your ships" sense) soundcloud.com/maleidoscope/o…
Resonates a lot with how I've thought about designing Complice. Negative space design: common features don't exist, which blocks old behaviors, in support of new ones, in support of new whole paradigms (complice.co/philosophy)
@zachphillips Fascinating. Resonates a bit w/ @LordChisholm's friend Daniel who I met last week (idk if he's on twitter; guessing not) although I think maybe he's like 1 stage after you—might make a good pairing. You do zero to 1, he does 1 to 100, someone else takes care of mass-manufacturing
@zachphillips @LordChisholm Yo @LordChisholm ask Daniel if he wants to make a startup that perfects the video call eye-contact teleprompter based on @zachphillips's hacky solution.
@zachphillips Okay so next time I think of a hard problem that needs solving (in the... hardware/media space?) I shall throw it at you.
Replying to @DaltonDEmery
@andy_matuschak @gwern Did some n=3 explorations with @SarahAMcManus & @GretchenAMcC upon initial observations that I can sing along to music while reading, G would completely tune it out, and S wasn't sure. Comprehension seemed lower (of the novel) ...nothing conclusive but neat to experiment with!
@andy_matuschak @gwern @SarahAMcManus @GretchenAMcC Suggests to me, at any rate, that averages may mislead here. Different people may use different mental structures to perform the same task. eg someone who counts visually can maybe count while talking, someone who counts using verbal loop would have more trouble
With the caveat that I have not investigated the actual research to any degree, the premise is fascinating, results aside. Some proposals in the article for using this to explore gender dysphoria. psypost.org/2020/12/experi…
this is approximately what I aspire to although also I have a shirt that I made myself with the text "meaningful words" on it which maybe counts as post-meta-ironic or something
As someone who already has a loose sense of time most of the year because I work for myself and work is play and all of that... ...something weird about xmas being nearly cancelled in places. Feels a little unglued. I feel like I'm tryna bass solo and the drums lost the count😵
Trying out a new MacBook, and the fan is really loud just like, browsing the internet with 30 tabs open. There's a feeling for me of like "my old laptop was allowed to complain randomly sometimes but we had baggage... this is like our second date and you're spouting off"
@actualhog 2019 pro 16"
Update: weird as this year is, I went for a walk and it is just barely discernable that tonight is indeed xmas eve. Whew. As much as I sometimes felt awkward in the xmas eve church services, I'd give a lot rn to (safely) be in a room with 100+ people singing gloriously together.
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Paper Mario
@ciphergoth @nsiivola @DRMacIver idk but might've been the pink sparkly ball thing (source: malcolmocean.com/2016/02/sparkl…)
@Neats29 twitter, apparently :P (but also actually because we get to be all intertwingled)
Retweeted @AbhayPrasanna
Self talk around non-coercion can sometimes feel like telling a house elf to give itself clothes. Give it clothes. Stop…
@nickcammarata @tjrwriting key component left as a questionable assumption though here, which is "does the emergence of a new synthetic opiate being illegal actually help deal with the object-level situation?" in general, it seems people naively think making something illegal will make it go away
@JeffLadish @diviaprocessing We really really really should. Pragmatically, is there a way to do that? Can Scott Alexander write a big op-ed or something?
@ESYudkowsky While writing, put a kaleidoscope on my secondary monitor so that I have something for my spare attention cycles to be drawn to that doesn't send me spiralling into an internet rabbit hole. Ever-changing yet nothing ever happens. youtube.com/watch?v=msnYBM…
Retweeted @ESYudkowsky
Name an uncommon life-tweak, making a small but noticeable difference, that you've used within the past 24 hours. Example…
Retweeted @nuanceexists
anti-nihilism: everything is bursting with meaning. e v e r y t h i n g.
Do other people get suddenly distracted midsentence while typing sometimes, and come back to journal entries to see things like "I think probably it would be good to" it's clearly not "I wasn't sure what to say" rather WOOSH suddenly my attention is gone!
@BellaRudd1 I would be very into this at least twice
@maybegray glad to meet you this year & discover that you exist! I pride myself on not putting people in boxes but I'll admit that "sensitive weed-smoking tarot-clown law student with big fake titties" just completely smashed all of my categories 😂 looking forward to what comes next! 🥳
What's a question that you think is important because you think you have a rare answer to it?
@mattgoldenberg I'm into it!
@mattgoldenberg And 20mins/day sounds like the sort of thing that might not hit my homework triggers too hard to prevent me from doing it in the first place 😂 (Still working on that.)
@RichDecibels a bunch of really deep stuff around trust eg
@prerationalist Context for the below: > Considering a new heuristic for twitter conversations: leave any conversation in which I don't feel like ♥️ing every tweet.
if someone doesn't understand something, even if I or others *do* understand it then I cannot ask them to understand it more than they do each person is starting from different knowings & confusions, & must dialogue my explanation with those 🧵
@visakanv I can't easily find it but somewhere on the google product forums I once came across a comment saying "google product forums are where bug reports & feature requests go to die, with no explanation of why they will never ever be implemented" ...comment was by me, 2y earlier
Retweeted @visakanv
there is still so much improvement to be made to the internet
@slatestarcodex @JeffLadish @diviaprocessing Yeah, rewriting to include covid-specific examples plus publishing somewhere prominent that people who don't otherwise follow the rationalist scene. (Aware SSC has a substantial number of followers who eg don't read LW, but that there's a kind of limbo/hiatus there)
@joshgans your recent (exciting!) article says: > We are now in Phase 3 of the RSC plan which is to make screens a daily part of life in 18 sites across Canada. But it sounds like it's not just 18 individual sites but many instances of the same few companies? Or am I misreading?
Retweeted @eigenrobot
got distracted from granting boons momentarily and started reading old Bloom County cartoons society has become stagnant s…
@BellaRudd1 @Burning_Airline fucking tight rhymes. this is your best of the few dozen I just read 🙌
@DRMacIver @ciphergoth @nsiivola That is now basically also my stance. Kudos for actually doing it! Interestingly, while this didn't come up so much reading the usages, the more definitional articulations of relip & thamagar reminded me immensely of the left & right brain hemispheres.
My current twitter workflow : - open twitter TL - open a bunch of tweets in new tabs - try to go through them but often bounce off distractedly I want a new workflow where I tag things for later, then "later" I'm shown 1 at a time & must complete/ditch A before seeing B
@edelwax This feels like a great example of somewhere where values-based design is really important. And resonant with something I recall @andy_matuschak tweeting about awhile ago about operating systems that support you living purpose-oriented lives.
@awilkinson I made an app that's kind of the opposite of GTD! It addresses exactly the issues you're mentioning. I've written about the philosophy here (which can be used without the app, but the app makes it easy) complice.co/philosophy
@magicianbrain haha yes
@meekaale how do we even think about what a parody is? consider a caricature: which facial features to exaggerate depends on knowing which ones stand out from the crowd #MetaphorsMatter so I guess I'm comparing myself to my own mutuals, to try to see how I'm weird
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa starting with me & @m_ashcroft! 😁
@utotranslucence hmmmm I feel like I kind of get what you're saying here but I was known as a great singer in my teens, years before I ever had sex at all, let alone good sex
was gonna say "big mood" but it's more multitudinous than big, per se
Retweeted @nickcammarata
In ~every area of life your true ceiling is so high it's hard to imagine You can solve money problems so much you have…
@nosilverv denies the existence of up & down
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot do you need this thing? I still haven't quite gotten it built (though someone made a proof-of-concept) but it remains something that seems important and worth building
@Aryeh___ @rothosphere @maybegray I think it's possible to be temporarily confused about what you're afraid of, eg if you are in some sense afraid of your partner ignoring you but in a different sense your fear is about your mom abandoning you but afaict the core thing can't be destroyed
@Aryeh___ @rothosphere @maybegray so with adequate time, space, safety, and introspective tools, one could uncover the actual fear, and it would sort of feel obviously more true once uncovered. it's possible to interrogate ppl into apparently "uncovering" a confusion actually projected by the interrogator though
@samismx @mattgoldenberg it works perfectly & beautifully: God is Change (from the fictional religion of Earthseed, that is in some sense perhaps less fictional than other religions)
@mattgoldenberg @bensima @michaelcurzi @Conaw @PrinceVogel @jondubin & @Morphenius may have thoughts on this prayer thing too
Replying to @dispirateparts
@dispirateparts mmm, yeah, take it slow ♥️ good to have you back you might find this frame helpful, in terms of really saying to all of your parts "I want to dialogue with you on your terms, not to try to get you to change before we can even talk". makes way more buy-in
@finereli @hinds_sight @Aella_Girl ehh I mean I'd say both/and Aella might legit have an unusual and reflective take, and that would be interesting!
@meditationstuff oooh do me
Replying to @diviaprocessing
@diviaprocessing hm, fascinating dialogue important for both of you to have the space to not have to justify, I guess did that feel like a bonding experience?
@WeftOfSoul @upoutandaway yeah, in general psychologists have mostly studied the varieties of dysfunctions, but since everyone is traumatized, there's at least 1 underlying shared dysfunction which then gets expressed in a multitude of ways
@mattgoldenberg Mmm... I feel like I have a thing to say here but I'm having trouble finding any words for it. What I can do tho is link to this excellent article by @Morphenius relentlessdawn.wordpress.com/2019/05/15/the…
in some sense I have enough money but then I notice myself inclined to make moves that I am not hell-yeah about, drawn by a sense of wanting more money hmm
@mcfarljo @anthilemoon Oooh nice, I'll check that out. Sounds like it'll resonate a lot with the approach in my app @CompliceGoals, which is very much about clarifying your goals then seeing what purposeful actions you can take each day. (I've written about the philosophy here) malcolmocean.com/2020/12/compli…
@mcfarljo @anthilemoon @CompliceGoals this reminds me—@anthilemoon, I've been meaning to reach out to you about the prospect of doing an interview for you about the Complice philosophy and other thoughts. I loved the one you did w @Conaw awhile back!
@kunaaaaaal I don't have a specific number that's more than what I currently have (I did once have a specific number, which was the amount that would allow me to live off of the revenue from @CompliceGoals, but I'm well past that)
@kunaaaaaal @CompliceGoals I guess there's an "enough for what?" I'd like to be able to fund others' projects I want to support, way more than the ~$200/mo I currently contribute on patreon. I'd like to be able to buy property & realize my vision of a ProtoB there. I don't (yet?) have enough for those.
Retweeted @visakanv
one of the core driving forces of twitter is something I’m temp-labelling “the perfect utterance problem” basically nobody c…
@mchapiro Just don't go for more than 60 days or they can tax you forever twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
Replying to @selentelechia
@kunaaaaaal @CompliceGoals Maybe. But it's still not strategic, in that I'm mostly not gonna be able to reach either of those much higher amounts just by picking up an extra coaching client or something like that. Need higher leverage options.
@ssica3003 yas king!
the people have spoken! there will be more threads about GCI! this is actually quite encouraging to read, as I'd been genuinely concerned people might be getting annoyed to the one person who answered "wish it wasn't on my TL", well, I see you ♥️
Topic suggestions? A few on my mind: — how and why we do the PWYW (pay what you want) structure — other stuff about the financial set-up of the workshop — high level overview of the framework Lmk if you're particularly curious about any of those, or if you have other Qs!
Retweeted @sam_havens
when you say mean things to yourself in your head, is it in the 1st person (I "I really fucked that up") or 2nd ("you reall…
@_awbery_ @hokaisobol Personally I'd go for Buddha, Shawarma, & Sangria, but that might be a bit of a stretch.
What would you guess is the total number of people in the USA who have been infected with COVID-19, based on the number of *confirmed* cases being ~18M? (Hunch guesses totally welcome, lmk in replies if you've got detailed reasoning!)
Thread · Confirmed COVID cases versus actual infection estimates
I've been musing... if there are 20M confirmed cumulative cases in the USA, wouldn't the number of not-confirmed cases be more like 100-200M? given how bad testing has been and the % of tests coming back positive being so high? Is anyone trying to answer this question?
I've been grumpy since the beginning that people keep talking about confirmed cases as if it's the territory, rather than a known-to-be-undercounted map. Basically another instance of the ubiquitous "no evidence" fallacy.
These guys back in April did some serology sample tests and found that there might be half a million true cases in LA County in California, versus the 8,000 confirmed active cases. dailynews.com/2020/04/20/l-a…
If only 10% of people infected are showing up in tests, this would imply that the USA is presently approaching herd immunity thresholds (*IF* people infected last spring are still immune) of >50%. Not saying this is so, but what's actually the best guess?
Let's do a poll! (I made it its own tweet so it could do its thing separate from this thread)
This post by @TheZvi cites a machine learning estimate of total cases that I'm not going to quote here next to the poll. I don't know to what extent it contains a detailed model or is just a basic number predictor. lesswrong.com/posts/CHtwDXy6…
@selfprime @VinceFHorn and only on *detected* cases
I imagine straining my cringe muscles watching the whole movie here (however long it is) but this clip is amusing. lil averagerianism joke in there
@quirkyllama does that account for the time-delay too? ie there are many people who have covid now who will die and whose numbers have not yet been counted
@jondubin @mattgoldenberg @bensima @michaelcurzi @Conaw @PrinceVogel @Morphenius Mmmm, nice. Prayer seems like an interesting way to grapple with stuff in the challenging realm of partial control. malcolmocean.com/2019/10/the-ch…
brb just reinventing the entire concept of web browser including questioning the idea of "tabs" as a basic metaphor we forget this, but tabs are a weird vestigial bastardization of the old file/folder metaphor am writing about this publicly on roamblog: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
@edelwax @andy_matuschak I set out to think about how I would design this and am tentatively concluding we might ultimately need to reinvent the web browser. bringing this to the attn of @Conaw, @BlackForestBoi, @RobertHaisfield, @metamitya
define "browser tab" how is it different from a site? a window? a link? (I have some articulations of this but I'm curious to see how others will approach it)
Replying to @MrJamesNestor
@MrJamesNestor @meditationstuff & @ben_r_hoffman & @lifeandlimbo have you seen this? relevant to mewing (for those unfamiliar with mewing, check out this below video)
@TurtlingB agreed, exactly my best new metaphor so far is like a breadcrumb, although that's ofc too long for pragmatic usage. might just pick a simple word like "spot" or something but the contextiness is what makes a "tab" not just a "url"
Retweeted @GeniesLoki
For reasons I might be less likely to want to tweet controversial things right now and so might stick to sensible safe topi…
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania can't wait to jam in person with you sometime! ❣️🎸🎶
@visakanv @mechanical_monk @seconds_0 @joerogan I think we could do it sooner, particularly if that were like, what we were aiming for (not obvious that'd be wise tho) 3y ago, Visa had ~2500 twitter followers questions about how exponentials transfer between platforms; obvi somewhat (source)
@visakanv @mechanical_monk @seconds_0 @joerogan ironically that tweet is from a thread that starts off talking about Joe Rogan 🙃
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth Time to burn that ship?
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa have commented. important message & I'm glad you're writing it!
I was like "shall I do my yearly review or go on twitter?" and I tried going on twitter but now I'm definitely reviewing my life choices.
Replying to @Aelkus
@Aelkus @vgr AR+knobs I want that muscle memory for human→computer communication, but the full range of my visual field for computer+human communication.
@_awbery_ @hokaisobol all the bootysattvas are invited!
@BasilMarte @WeftOfSoul @upoutandaway ....like half of people can't hold a marriage, they just find reasons to avoid therapy so they never get a chance to be hit over the head with the DSM
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia found this by my brain spoonerizing the word and me searching twitter to see who had gotten to it first
@selentelechia coincidentally this happened like 2 days ago, so was in my browser history for me to QT it for you
@trvrb @diviacaroline @JeffLadish @slatestarcodex @diviaprocessing I think in some cases that's appropriate, though "idk" can have its own subtle vibes. Might even be appropriate to lay it out even more explicitly, eg "based on the evidence we have so far, it's possible that cloth masks reduce transmission a little, or a lot, or not at all."
@trvrb @diviacaroline @JeffLadish @slatestarcodex @diviaprocessing I think your correction of "no direct genomic evidence" is also great, although of course that will readily get compressed by others as "no evidence". Ideally ppl would list out the various evidences in each direction: • statistical • based on models (eg particle size) • &+
@trvrb @diviacaroline @JeffLadish @slatestarcodex @diviaprocessing And even with "no direct genomic evidence" it should still say either "we don't yet have adequate direct genomic evidence to imply anything" or "what (little?) direct genomic evidence we have so far tentatively implies X"
@DavidCrandall_W @Aelkus @vgr did somebody say.... @Dynamicland1 + @PaletteGear!?!?
@mchapiro @stillthisglass I don't have a personal take on whether it'll be enforced, but there's some evidence that states have more power than one might think around this stuff. cc @EpistemicHope
@meekaale yeah "why" is basically the best shorthand for "for-the-sake-of-which"
@zachphillips Hmmm. What happens if I throw this problem of "browser tabs aren't living up to their potential" at you? (I did some thinking on it earlier today, and I have an initial sketch of an idea but someone needs to build a prototype)
@DavidCrandall_W @Aelkus @vgr @Dynamicland1 @PaletteGear Yaaas do it. Then we'll challenge @zachphillips to hack together a prototype! (he said he wanted people to throw hard problems at him so I'm just gonna do so until something vibes 🎷)
@Neats29 @Clo__S ooooh mindful ux? sounds like my kind of thing! (a tweet of mine about mindful design of Complice 👇)
@joshgans Ahh okay, but then the companies are surely going to roll it out to more sites soon? Or is it gonna be just 18 for awhile as a kind of live test-run?
@slatestarcodex @JeffLadish @diviaprocessing Finding myself thinking that this is way further than "someone is wrong on the internet", it's like, "dozens of people who are widely read are all wrong in exactly the same way, on the internet". Somehow shifting norms around this could be potent, if not for 2021 then further on
@theorangealt have only used JIRA briefly years ago, but broadly Agile has a lot of resonance with Complice I also really dig Time Walls from @basecamp's Shape Up fixed time, variable scope, so you can't go over your time budget basecamp.com/shapeup/1.2-ch…
@SarahAMcManus @antonjw had a very similar thought! very interested
@derekvan Hey Derek, appreciating your reflection! The original idea was that Complice would eventually find ways to empower people to play out future tasks while keeping those from going stale, but then it worked remarkably well without that, so that's what we've stuck with.
@anthilemoon @mcfarljo @CompliceGoals @Conaw Lovely! I'll DM you 😊🚀
@derekvan However, one piece you might find useful is the WorkFlowy integration, where you can queue up stuff for specific dates using tags like #thursday or #weekdays or #2020-12-31 and once completed, gets marked complete in WF too! complice.co/and/workflowy
@derekvan I'm working on an API/platform that will enable a bunch of other tools to plug into Complice in this way! Not yet sure what general tools there will be in Complice for ensuring things don't get overwhelmed by stale systems, but I have a couple ideas.
Replying to @flancian
@flancian @zachphillips @RoamResearch @hypothes_is tagging @BlackForestBoi who is working on stuff using the @hypothes_is platform, and whose app @worldbrain has similar kinds of snippety sharing
@zachphillips @QuoteblockSpec muahaha yes, inspire more half-baked ideas to be put out for someone else to finish baking!
@mattgoldenberg @RobertHaisfield Haha super cool! Rob and I just met on a call last week 😊
fuck off @SlackHQ I will never consent to your desktop app
to their credit, the next screen shown has a "don't ask again" option, but the original one could have said "not right now" instead of "I'll do it later" and then that wouldn't have been creepy
@cortexfutura @RoamFm Yeah, it's all 3 of "philosophy, workflow, tool". I've written about the philosophy here, with a brief summary of the workflow: malcolmocean.com/2020/12/compli…
@cortexfutura Awesome! I'm working on an integration between Roam & Complice that'll go live as soon as the Roam API is publicly available. Will have what the WorkFlowy integration has, and more! Very keen to hear your ideas for how it might work. complice.co/and/workflowy
@uncatherio Epic crazy - Phoenix by Dirty Loops youtu.be/gYc5zrXC52k?li…
@uncatherio Chill texturey instrumental - Mountains of Memory by Emancipator m.youtube.com/watch?v=45YcBN…
@maybegray @nosilverv Gives me Rayman vibes
@utotranslucence @default_friend @nickcammarata Hype As A Service
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
An important archetype: the bridge-burning wizard The BBW creates circles of astonishing collaborators around themselve…
Retweeted @jardsmard
girl side of shower vs boy side of shower
nobody puts baby in the outgroup
@anthilemoon @Conaw If you want a lil bop to go along with your meditation: (has the same animation) youtube.com/watch?v=w9COHC…
@nickcammarata What if you approached every problem as if you could completely solve it, to the satisfaction of every part of you and everyone else involved?
Retweeted @natural_hazard
I stumble, but I never fall This is not a metaphor
Thread · Two goal-setting workshops on the same weekend
I have at least personal 2 facepalms from this announcement, maybe 3. 🤦🤦♂️🤦♀️ I'd actually be stoked to attend Tiago's workshop, but I'll busy that weekend (Jan 9-10)... running my own goal-setting workshop 😆 This was almost averted... 1/
Last year, I did a thread talking about the remarkable similarities between my workshop and one that @fortelabs was hosting, and wondered if they'd based theirs on ours (not to their knowledge!) 2/
Anyway, we concluded "let’s coordinate next year to not do it the exact same weekend!" but I'd kinda forgotten about that in November, when our team decided for the first time to try doing *three* weekends (Dec 19,20, Jan 2,3, Jan 9,10) 3/
A few weeks later, I remembered that old exchange and thought "well, maybe they're not running it this year, after all, Tiago had a kid, and it was an experiment last year, so maybe it'll just be fine" but I guess in general they tend to arrange the event later in the season! 4/
But it's all good! While the events are very similar in some ways, Tiago is probably mostly marketing to his huge email list, of people who are happy to go to his event and were never gonna hear about ours. 5/
And we do a bunch of marketing in our own private channels / on Twitter—and in the latter context, competition can actually be helpful for everyone! 6/
(I'm not very good at beefing though 😛...I have an irrepressible tendency to just try to overtly make positive-sum things happen, as exhibited in the image & QT below, as well as in this whole thread.) 7/
Anyway, my main recommendation is to pick one of the workshops and go to it. Either will blow your mind and set you up to totally rock 2021. I'll try to sketch out in a few tweets why you might pick 1 or the other if you're considering both! 8/
The content of one vs the other might seem like an obvious reason to pick, but I can't say much about it since I don't know their content & by definition would be inclined to favor mine. Main question is which will be the better container for you personally. So... 9/
Come to Goal-Crafting Intensive if: • you want lots of direct private chat coaching from many coaches, vs a bit of support from 2 • you prefer a $25 ticket + PWYW over $299 up front • your schedule fits better with one 5h event on Jan 2,3,9, or 10 10/ complice.co/event/plan2021…
Head over to @fortelabs & @david_perell's The Annual Review if you want to: • immerse yourself for the entire Jan 9-10 weekend • interact a lot with other participants during the event • focus on a big picture review (vs goals+plans+systems) 11/11 learn.fortelabs.co/p/the-annual-r…
Replying to @DaltonDEmery
@nosilverv I feel pretty manly in this crop top (that I made out of a conference shirt given to me by @tasshinfogleman who couldn't wear it while monking)
@thesravaka idk if you know me enough, but I'm curious
Retweeted @cortexfutura
I'm really happy with this little thing I built to emulate @Malcolm_Ocean's @CompliceGoals within @RoamResearch. Again us…
@cortexfutura cool, yup composability?
@anthilemoon @alt_visa I like it because it's short and easy to miss if you don't know what it is... in general I find it weird that anyone would *ask* people to put something in their bio, like whut? but a self-organized version feels ok
Retweeted @mechanical_monk
women will literally go to therapy instead of actually fixing their problems
Retweeted @xuenay
At a water plant in Poland, there are eight clams with sensors attached to their shells. If the clams close because they don’t…
@Mappletons @visakanv Yeah CSS gets you a long way. I've also whipped up some little userscripts like this one that makes tabs not aggressively try to remind you about every single notification (see no red dots or (20+)) Get TamperMonkey then go here & press Raw to install gist.github.com/malcolmocean/9…
Retweeted @zachphillips
Here's a thread in which I will attempt to destroy the word "content." First, I acknowledge that this war has already bee…
@Mappletons @visakanv That is, mostly you don't even need to write a whole chrome plugin, you just need a few lines of javascript deployed as a userscript. I can't fucking stand using twitter with the red dots.
Replying to @sarah_cone
@sarah_cone Free-associating, found myself thinking about signal-to-noise ratios, but then about "signalling"... ...what does it mean to value information? Bateson talks about information as "a difference that makes a difference"... cs.bham.ac.uk/research/proje…
@fortelabs same reactive→proactive flip as I talk about in this article contrasting the GTD philosophy with the Complice philosophy GTD: how do I keep track of & prioritize all of these todos? Complice: where am I trying to go and how can I get there? malcolmocean.com/2020/12/compli…
Retweeted @fortelabs
Don’t start from the outside in: here’s all the content I want to consume, how can I fit it into my day? Start from the ins…
@Conaw @joyurge @SarahAMcManus re multidimensional meaning maps
@visakanv @mechanical_monk @michaelcurzi @nosilverv yeah "wanting X" and "fearing not-X" are completely different things and you can't just convert between them extended take on this here:
@natural_hazard meanwhile me
@rothosphere argh. I appreciate your civil disobedience and rabble-rousing ❣️ *HUGS* you might also appreciate this great thread from day 2 after I got QC to come play with us on twitter
I was revisiting this thought today in a convo with @AbhayPrasanna and realized that an even better way to put it than "the complice.co app makes it easy to follow the philosophy" is: complice.co makes it *hard* to *not* follow the philosophy
you've got your existing set of habits of how you relate to lists of things you intend to do Complice, by not having buttons like "edit" or "delete" on those, and by not automatically rolling yesterday's items over to today, blocks those habits and necessitates behavior change
Retweeted @diviacaroline
Another Uber driver who worked with the US military in Afghanistan. Quite the story! twitter.com/mesolude/statu…
Retweeted @diviacaroline
Wait, hold the phone... Some guys will literally: -read a crank psych book -from a band named after a line from it -m…
@diviacaroline Just gonna put out that this song of theirs is very therapeutic: youtube.com/watch?v=ldAp-m…
@diviacaroline tho I prefer this cover youtube.com/watch?v=ZiiVD2…
Retweeted @diviacaroline
My current mood:
Whole thread resonates a lot for me. (I was raised progressive not-very-literal Christian, with a lesbian minister at one point, & when at age 12 I announced to my parents that I thought I could make a better religion based on "Good" instead of "God", they were very encouraging)
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia auditory input is literally made of time in a perceptively obvious way all input gets sampled but audio in particular means nothing if you only have one timeslice McGilchrist talks about this (relatively true for tactile sensation too)