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question it seems worth someone researching: what factors enable researchers (in/out of academia, at various levels) to escape from a doomed paradigm (eg neuroreductionism) into something more alive? in practice, what makes the difference?

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Trust as an Unquestioning Attitude 😇 naive trust as not Q'ing because you've never been burned 🫡 forced trust as not Q'ing because not okay to question (says authority or inner desperation) 🧐 non-naive trust as not Q'ing because you know the warning signs and they aren't pr…

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new twitter changes: - can't view anything logged out (tweet permalinks or profiles) - preview in slack fully gone now these two things were previously the source of 80%+ of my twitter usage some weeks wtf are they thinking?

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"don't worry, be spiritually bypassing" — busker at the farmer's market this morning after playing Don't Worry Be Happy

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"WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME THAT THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE TELLING ME THINGS?!?"

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Semantically Transmitted Infection

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captcha asking me to identify which sound is a real cat ...Purring Test

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Retweeted @IntendApp

Listening to your soul starts with curiosity. What interests you, even if you can't say why?

Retweeted @nanimonull

@megalonyx_ @punished3liza You should check out intend.do by @IntendApp Starts by asking for some Large, Ov…

Retweeted @RichDecibels

I'm training myself to see the superorganism that's made of people, seeing groups rather than individuals as the fundamen…

Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

I'm training myself to see the superorganism that's made of people, seeing groups rather than individuals as the fundamental unit, shifting my identification out of self and into relationship, out of now and into extended time... is there a name for this? a practice? teachers?

@RichDecibels I often think of it as "collective awakening"

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

Fascinating slide from Deb Dana — do any of these resonate? Ventral connection ~ I'm curious about the world Sympathetic dominant ~ I have to be better than everyone Dorsal collapse ~ I'm never going to measure up

@jonnym1ller they all seem way too specific/totalizing ("everyone" / "never") remember that most animals have these same physiological states, and there's no way in hell they're making these generalizations but maybe [these states] + [left-hemisphere fixation] = [these messages]??

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

I'm training myself to see the superorganism that's made of people, seeing groups rather than individuals as the fundamental unit, shifting my identification out of self and into relationship, out of now and into extended time... is there a name for this? a practice? teachers?

@RichDecibels "synergetics"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Enjoying reading Synergetics again (by N Arthur Coulter, not the book by the same name published around the same time, by Bucky, which is more about geometry and less about human development)

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

There’s a great essay I read a long time ago about how communities have to defend themselves against sociopathic manipulative infiltrators, and how it’s gossip that enables this over time. But I can’t find it and search is now totally broken. Anyone know the link?

@eshear Might be this one and its sequels, which tell a detailed story about how a sociopath fucked up the Tor community, and how part of how it worked is that nobody was willing to gossip about the weird shit that was happening to them. status451.com/2016/08/09/too…

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> Confusion feels like unresolved surprise. It’s a violation of your expectations that happened somewhere along the way that was never explained. It’s a feeling of things not quite fitting together. arr.am/2020/01/23/not…

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

There’s a great essay I read a long time ago about how communities have to defend themselves against sociopathic manipulative infiltrators, and how it’s gossip that enables this over time. But I can’t find it and search is now totally broken. Anyone know the link?

@eshear I came across this aggregation article while looking for the pebbles one, and it might also be of use: medium.com/@fanf42/resour…

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Replying to @DaltonDEmery

@DaltonDEmery I'll contribute at least a little bit!

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Replying to Matthew Pirkowski @MattPirkowski ·

All learning requires experimental selection over a distribution of possibilities, given some set of constraints that embody a teleological frame. In the realm of culture, this implies that “good judgement” requires both comfort with judgement—as such—and a distribution over

@MattPirkowski agreed about the relevance of this for evolution, though I'd distinguish: taste ("I like this; I don't like that") discernment ("this works [for this purpose]; that doesn't") judgment ("this is right; that is wrong")

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Replying to Gorm @metaphorician ·

I wish there was a button on the steering wheel of my car to like songs in Spotify

@metaphorician it's long struck me as dumb that headphones don't have extra buttons to do stuff like this or like "snip the last 30s of this podcast"

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Replying to pieratt @pieratt ·

🚩🙏 Advice? I’m talking to some friends who are a professional Buddhist guru duo and former tpot couple about how they’re dealing with ugly drama from a past student. Their reply… “We are entirely wholesome and beneficial beings. The idea that we could or would do anything

@pieratttt I haven't read it but I've heard good things about Saints and Psychopaths by William Hamilton although I think it's less about "Spiritually induced sociopathology" as it is about masquerades

RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@wildbuddhini Spiritual communities attract traumatized people, who are prime targets for abusers. The lack of objective feedback or broader social calibration on what goes on in them increases the problem. Bill Hamilton's Saints and Psychopaths has a nice checklist about it.

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@pieratttt having said that, I sense that spiritually induced sociopathy is also kind of a thing, and it's made out of a false generalization from high-self-trust to "others should trust me", due to lack of differentiation

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

if someone can't trust me in some way, even if I or others *do* trust me in this way then I cannot ask them to trust me more than they can trust me each person has been betrayed in different ways, and their trust must thus be earned in different ways

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Retweeted @embryosophy

my tiktoks are lowkey goated where verbal and visual information density are the vibe

instead of finding god what if god finds you?

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Replying to Rayne 🪱➡️🦋 @nascentwisp ·

okay twitter how do I "find god"? and what happens when I do? I'm serious

@nascentwisp I'd already been thinking of tweeting something like this today

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

instead of finding god what if god finds you?

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Replying to Hormeze 𐤄𐤅𐤓𐤌𐤉𐤆 @hormeze ·

going to the gym, y'all need anything?

@hormeze yeah if you'd pick up a trap bar with some big plates on each side, that'd be great

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Replying to 🎭 @deepfates ·

Does LessWrong use Discourse on the backend?

@deepfates nope, it's its own whole thing (which is open source) github.com/ForumMagnum/Fo…

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@sunofdopamine why are we even capable of trying if it never works??? 🤔🤔🤔 same q for @m_ashcroft and @metaLulie

@QiaochuYuan @sunofdopamine @m_ashcroft @metaLulie "trying" (in this sense) is what happens when effort is at odds with something since the Fall, we've had fractured souls that are often at odds with themselves; letting go of trying is one way to cultivate wholeness

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Replying to Stephen L @sunofdopamine ·

@QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft @metaLulie It's an inherent consequence of our brains and consciousness That's like saying why are we capable of having internal conflict!

@sunofdopamine @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft @metaLulie Vervaeke's stuff on dukkha-translated-as-"self-destructiveness" is quite a good articulation of some of the inherentness of life/intelligence and self-destructiveness youtube.com/watch?v=vGB8k7…

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Replying to Paul Minot, MD @PaulMinotMD ·

I've been practicing psychiatry for 38 years. I love my job, my peers, and my patients. But I've come to the conclusion that I'm participating in the biggest intellectual scam of this era. We claim to be a science, but have no understanding how thought or behavior is generated./1

@PaulMinotMD @utotranslucence - relevant to psychcrisis.org

•Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

I was just awarded a grant by Emergent Ventures to start a nonprofit working to reform the psychiatric crisis system-- psychcrisis.org. I'd like to explain what that is, why it matters, and what the hell I'm gonna do about it. x.com/tylercowen/sta…

quoting @tylercowen: Emergent Ventures winners, eighteenth cohort: https://t.co/sS4dqPWMx9

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Replying to oneeyedalpaca @OneEyedAlpaca ·

what does a.l.p.a.c.a. stand for? wrong answers only

@OneEyedAlpaca all lasagna plates are certified authorities

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Retweeted @Morphenius

👮 "Sir, can I see your license for that counterfactual?" 🤷‍♂️ "Well, you could if I had one."

I call my bank's hotline; they say to go into the branch I go into the branch; they say to call the hotline I call back the hotline, hand my phone to the teller & say "you guys sort it out" they talk for 20mins & say "nothing to do here" hearing this, the monk was enlightened

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Replying to ER!S was at fivecamp @bstract_thot ·

earth is a very special planet bc there are about 4 billion versions of God running around and sometimes one will even let you kiss Her

@bstract_thot hmmm

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

so the sex workshop had a thing where everyone who spoke up had to give pronouns and there was a pair in a row that was like “[name], she/her/goddess” *wild cheering* “[name], he/him/human” and it continues to strike me that he knew he couldn’t get away with “he/him/god”

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

oh no, I just realised that my self image is a few years out of date, making me see myself very differently from how others see me and thus creating a kind of alienation

@m_ashcroft easier to correct for than having a self image a few years off in the future, perhaps :P what's the gap like?

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Replying to Brandon Goldman @BrandonGoldman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean So they didn’t solve your problem?

@BrandonGoldman my request was "please cancel this investment account that I transferred to a different bank" turns out that had happened automatically by the transfer process already, so "nothing to do here" was actually the correct conclusion!

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I mean a spicy take is that it depends on the extent to which your usual conversations consist of mutual prompt-completion v…

People who say "LLMs prove humans aren't conscious" or "humans are just like LLMs" are telling you more about themselves and their typical conversations than they're telling you about LLMs, consciousness, or intelligence.

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Replying to Matthew Pirkowski @MattPirkowski ·

Functionally, a successful "culture" reduces the costs of perpetuating that which has proven most adaptively capable across time, and increases the costs of perpetuating that which has proven most adaptively liable. In short: tailwinds for Lindy; headwinds for novelty.

@MattPirkowski

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@visabrain yeah this is literally what culture is. well, it's what culture has been since the history of humanity. we're making new kinds of cultures now. dive down the David Deutsch rabbit hole  🕳️🐇  ⬇️ twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Markov @MarkovMagnifico ·

@isorry123 nah I don’t buy this one. we don’t have the faintest clue what the answer to the hard problem of consciousness is but by god I sure am feeling things

@MarkovMagnifico @isorry123

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

People who say "LLMs prove humans aren't conscious" or "humans are just like LLMs" are telling you more about themselves and their typical conversations than they're telling you about LLMs, consciousness, or intelligence.

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Lots of human conversations are just mutual prompt completion, devoid of intent or purpose. But not ALL.

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

I mean a spicy take is that it depends on the extent to which your usual conversations consist of mutual prompt-completion vs actually *having something to say*.

quoting @MatthewJBar: I admit I'm confused why some people think there's a fundamental barrier deep learning still needs to break through before obtaining "real intelligence". I understand thinking that in 2021, but how could you say that after talking to GPT-4 for an hour?

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This lyric is my favorite definition of infinity.

nicole ruiz @nwilliams030 ·

When we’ve been there ten thousand years,   Bright shining as the sun, We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise   Than when we first begun.

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I say "should" I should stop saying "should" I should say "I *want* to stop saying 'should'" instead of shoulding about it I should accept myself using shoulds sometimes I should stop double-binding myself But it's okay if I do

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Replying to prerat @prerat ·

@m_ashcroft > i should stop saying should

@prerationalist @m_ashcroft

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I say "should" I should stop saying "should" I should say "I *want* to stop saying 'should'" instead of shoulding about it I should accept myself using shoulds sometimes I should stop double-binding myself But it's okay if I do

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Replying to Rob Bensinger ⏹️ @robbensinger ·

What's some of the best / most useful rationalist jargon, in your experience? (Can include phrases and other handles -- e.g., a blog post title can count as "jargon" if you find yourself citing the blog post a lot to make sense of things.)

@robbensinger "inferential distance" is the first that comes to mind

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

I'm increasingly convinced that indie newsletter & podcast sponsorship is one of the most effective + underrated approaches out there...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

quoting @jonnym1ller: I'll share on behalf of sponsoring @fortelabs newsletter — one placement led to 8k in sales (4x ROI) and a ton more applications... 💌

@jonnym1ller Hmmm I've been seriously thinking about something like this for both @IntendApp and the GCI workshops! (will investigate more. newsletter writers feel free to reply if your audiences feel resonant with intentionality, goals, etc!)

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Retweeted @__drewface

WE'RE DOING IT!!! 😁😁I'm so happy!! Publishing @Prigoose's viral piece on "How to Live Near Your Friends" helped convince @…

Replying to Andrew Rose @__drewface ·

WE'RE DOING IT!!! 😁😁I'm so happy!! Publishing @Prigoose's viral piece on "How to Live Near Your Friends" helped convince @katherout to move near her friends. She went viral on Tiktok, and vlogged to her 120k subs. **This is HOW it scales.** youtube.com/clip/UgkxSvjL5…

quoting @__drewface: @IaimforGOAT Why not create something like this now? I'm already doing this. Sure, it's not at scale, but if 10 of us do it and blog about it, then we become 100. Do things that don't scale.

@__drewface @Prigoose @katherout You can just say things and change people's lives! (Helps to be also living an example of a different life, but the saying part is also important!)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

yo @sashachapin & @QiaochuYuan, y'all had some tweets awhile back (related to Sasha's post about his life being changed by Tim Ferriss iirc?) about how you can just say things and change people's lives seemed relevant to something @LordChisholm was asking me about

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I feel very strongly in a similar way about distrust!

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

to say it positively, i am protective of my unhappiness and the unhappiness of others. unhappiness is how we know that something is not okay, that something matters and is at stake, that something needs to be different somewhere. the *knowing* in unhappiness is precious to me

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

to say it positively, i am protective of my unhappiness and the unhappiness of others. unhappiness is how we know that something is not okay, that something matters and is at stake, that something needs to be different somewhere. the *knowing* in unhappiness is precious to me

@QiaochuYuan Yes!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I feel very strongly in a similar way about distrust! twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

I realised today that I’m actually pretty happy like 90% of the time now what I have been interpreting as low motivation is actually low need-to-move-away-from-suffering, which is what has historically been my motivating force so now I get to explore happy-led motivation

@m_ashcroft Now you've got to figure out what you really want! (But you can start by knowing that you definitely—by definition—want to be able to know what you want enough to be able to steer towards it!)

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Replying to Aaron @AaronEstel ·

hey all, I know we are all annoyed at Twitter but I'd really prefer almost anything to another app owned by meta and I think we should all try to hold out and let threads die

@AaronEstel Might be a win if it seduces some people into the threading medium who are starting from fb-only or insta-only, but yeah we shouldn't go there.

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Replying to Jason Crawford @jasoncrawford ·

Suppose you give an AI an innocuous-seeming goal, like playing chess, fetching coffee, or calculating digits of π. What could go wrong? Well, there is an argument that even “safe” goals for AI could be very dangerous. I'm going to give the argument—and then push back on it.

@jasoncrawford Broadly appreciating this as a contribution into the space. I like how you deconstruct the examples! (Speaking as someone who has been and is still fairly concerned about various kinds of AI risk)

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Replying to hart the phoenix @puheenix ·

hey what do you do with stickers? i like sticking them on stuff, but they come off and make me sad. i had a water bottle w all these cool stickers, and they faded and got soggy and peeled off and it sucked. laptop is a no -- it's almost 10yrs old and getting replaced soon wyd?

@puheenix Get stickers from @stickermule, which are extremely durable and waterproof (although can leave sticky on some surfaces if on for a long time in heat) I have a referral code but I shill them because I hate most other kinds of sticker. I've ordered $100+ worth 5× for @IntendApp

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Retweeted @imperialauditor

I’m really enjoying Proofs and Refutations and how the various characters elegantly diss each other …

Replying to mahlen @mahlenr ·

Today I begin a 3 week meditation retreat at Spirit Rock. This place is simply stunning. See you all on the other side.

@mahlenr got that 97% optimal vibe

there are Lady Reds in the future @ladymcscope ·

<material circumstances: 97% of optimal> Me, a Buddhist: So, I had the realization that my happiness shouldn’t depend on material circumstances!

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Replying to Aaron @AaronEstel ·

I understand that fireworks really suck for some people and I'm sorry for that, but it's not often I get a chance to blow shit up and I'm not gonna turn it down

@AaronEstel I am so in favor of overt signalling an overabundance of gunpowder

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Replying to @isorry123

@isorry123 @MarkovMagnifico Of course we speak w/ relevance. I'm saying that we *also* often have a sense of actually *meaning* what we say. We can correct our words against intended meaning. We can explain our purpose for what we say (LLMs will make up reasons that aren't the truth: logprob + random seed)

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

I’m so asexual 🥵🥵 would love to Not have sex with you 🥵🥵🥵 right in my sexual hole 🥵🥵🥵

quoting @theyasminbenoit: Asexual people deserve equal rights. We deserve legal recognition. We deserve protection. Thank you @stonewalluk for allowing me to march with you again at #PrideInLondon today & for helping me to bring about this change. 💜🖤 #ThisIsWhatAsexualLooksLike #IStandWithStonewALL ht

@nosilverv I'm legit confused about the "equal rights" bit. Allegedly (based on the replies) it's a thing when parents have teens who identify as asexual to try to get them drugs to get them horny? That seems like a coercion and medicalization issue tho, made worse by reifying an identity.

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@nosilverv I feel like if ppl just said "sex isn't a priority for me" not "I am a new type of creature who absolutely doesn't want it" they wouldn't get all this flak and it would just be chill? (Still have parents pressuring them to date & have kids, but that's not unique to asexuals!)

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@nosilverv Anybody can be not horny at any time (or forever) — you don't need a reason or an identity! Participating in making identities out of this is participating in the absurd fiction that you need a category in order to be okay being you!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I saw a tweetstorm (that I'm not going to QT because it would read as dumping on them & undermining their point) that was naming a dozen subtly different sexual identities and saying each is valid. I actually want to amplify the part of their point that's: "your exp is valid!"

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@nosilverv The reason we need "gay" as a category/identity is so men who want to get with other men can find each other (although I know a man who likes men but is turned off by gay identity/subculture!) But if you don't need to find a sexual partner, you don't need an identity for that..?

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@nosilverv Ahhhhh I guess this is where "asexual" and "aromantic" are two broadly useful categories, as people who want one but not the other might want to find each other. ........I feel like it would be better defined by what you DO want tho.

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Replying to jessicat @jessi_cata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv see this thread x.com/remembrancermx…

@jessi_cata @nosilverv Oh huh, hadn't actually realized the name has its origin as a DSM category. Fuck the DSM. And thanks for the other examples!

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv like, I like sex, it's fun, but I still identify as aroace because it's important that people understand that my life doesn't revolve around sex and romance, and they can't just capture me for themselves and their personal lives like that.

@slimepriestess @nosilverv It still seems to me like identity is the wrong level on which to solve this, but I appreciate you sharing your perspective here as it's helping me understand. As a kid I didn't have a TV and classmates just Did. Not. Get. that my world didn't revolve around various shows.

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@nosilverv Sorry I need to clarify something here. In a thread about ace discrimination, one of the examples is no-sex as grounds for divorce and I gotta be real here that is totally legit. Work through it if possible but if your spouse wants to fuck you can't not fuck forever.

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@nosilverv Although if we're talking countries where only men can file for divorce, that is already a whole different kind of fucked. But otherwise if you don't want to fuck your spouse-who-does and don't see a pathway to wanting to, have the courage to divorce them yourself.

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Beautiful lil story about the power of nonjudgmental listening.

Vivek Patel (He/Him) @meaningfulideas ·

I encountered a kid who brought a knife to school and threatened a teacher. All the adults in his life told him he was bad and wrong. I received him with acceptance and no judgment. He opened his heart to me, crying and telling me of the abuse he was experiencing at home.

[video]

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Replying to @1_800_MIRACLE

@1_800_MIRACLE @chaosprime Both of those can be pretty easily verified by someone not engaged in motivated cognition. No need to take anyone's word for it. Although I still find it baffling how different species have different numbers of chromosomes.

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@1_800_MIRACLE @chaosprime But like, in general evolution is the tautology that you'll tend to observe more of the sorts of phenomena that are better at sticking around and making more of themselves.

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@1_800_MIRACLE @chaosprime And to verify round earth, call a friend in a different timezone and watch the sun set for them while it's overhead for you. Bonus: - Notice how it rises perpendicular to horizon at the equator, but at a low angle in Canada. - Notice how it goes "right to left" in Australia.

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I have heard a bit about an injunction by judge Doughty yesterday: US govt now can't tell social media companies what to censor as misinformation. Anybody got links to good threads or articles on it? Seems quite good in many ways! Early covid times were a clear overreach.

Wade Shepard @WadeShepard ·

This is a novel and groundbreaking statement today. But 10 years ago there's hardly anybody who would've responded to this with anything other than an eye roll and a "duh." From Judge Doughty's injunction against the White House.

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Replying to Matthew Dub @5matthewdub ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Both/and. And god finding god.

@5matthewdub Now We're talking.

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot God-tier hermit energy.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

3 intellectual archetypes: 🌲 the hermit — doesn't read or watch things, tries to figure it all out themselves 📖 the scholar — thoroughly researches everything already written on the topic 😍 the connoisseur — improvisationally explores & remixes others' ideas am I missing any?

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Replying to Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin ·

Oh wow. This is depressing.

quoting @amydiehl: Longitudinal study finds women who were 'headstrong' as children earn ~10% less than men and less headstrong women in comparable early career jobs. Men who were 'dependent' as children had $1.6K lower wages than men who were less dependent. @LorieKonish https://t.co/RZuourcuZv

@MediClit Averages about people don't have to tell you anything about you! They're mostly kinda fake anyway.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

to be clear—even vaguely approaching thinking about it dysregulates there's not a lot of capacity to just "do IFS" or "ask what's going on"

@AskYatharth Can you have a friend hold space for you while you turn your attention to it? To help you regulate? CoLifing 3.0

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Replying to Max @kyzcralotSxaM ·

One thing I feel strongly about is little boys should wrestle with their friends. Not in any formal way, though that's good too, but just scrapping around with no intention of hurting others. We had gladiatorial battles in my basement growing up and I look back at them fondly.

@kyzcralotSxaM Fond memories of winter fights on my trampoline, where the padding of snowsuits and snow meant we could safely fling each other off.

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Retweeted @SlowwCo

You aren't "free" to see what you can't (yet) see (from Ken Wilber's "Integral Psychology"):

I'm looking at the trust section of a library and it's absurd how many books are mostly saying "here's why trust is great". it's like a financial advice book saying "10 things you can do with money"... like uhh that's not the part I'm having trouble with 😆

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@strategy_rpg @nlpnyc @ESYudkowsky @paulg These prompts all imply different summaries: "In summary, what I mean is…" "This essay by Bob is about…" "The abstract of this paper is:" "Bullet-point cheat-sheet for the exam:" "After thorough research of this author's work, this essay presents a brilliant argument that…"

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Replying to priya rose @Prigoose ·

@myceliummage love this description. you are going too slow, you are stuck in the past, the world is moving on (without you!)

@Prigoose @myceliummage Or you're stuck in a classroom that's moving too slow and watching your precious life energy & attention have nowhere to go.

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Thread · Defensiveness as a sign you aren't listening to your own parts

if you get defensive when arguing about something it's a sign you aren't listening to the parts of yourself that ACTUALLY THINK things you think you don't

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(what those parts think may be different from what the person you're arguing with thinks. the point is just that you don't feel secure in your knowing)

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In some sense "insecure in your knowing" can also come from social dynamics, but ultimately there's a thing it feels like to have a relaxed ease about something and if you're defensive that ain't it

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doesn't mean you're wrong. you may have just memorized a fact that is correct, but your knowing of it is based on trusting some authority you don't dare disagree with

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I said soul=RRfn originally as a joke but it's turning out to be bizarrely apt Each person realizes relevance differently and in some sense this is: - what we identify as ourselves - what is lost when we die - what lives on a lil in those who knew us - a timeless shape - magical

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"...their soul, by which I mean their relevance realization function"

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Replying to ⧨lex decaying @alex_with_ease ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is such a nice tie-in between John Vervaeke and Rob Burbea 😁 Peak 🫖 really

@alex_with_ease Ooouuu I hadn't even thought of Rob Burbea. I've just barely scratched the surface of his stuff (enough to know you're referencing soul-making dharma but not more than that)

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Replying to ⧨lex decaying @alex_with_ease ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This feels like the end of an amazing thread 😄 I want to read it 😉

@alex_with_ease It was an aside in the middle of a conversation that wasn't particularly about souls or relevance realization as such!

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I'm very much in favor of pleasure and don't think that you should have to earn it or anything like that And also I resonate a lot with QC that there's something disturbingly nihilistic about how Nick tweets (whether he himself feels nihilistic is not knowable to me)

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

i said i thought we should be disagreeing more so to put my money where my mouth is: i find nick cammarata’s entire philosophy of life deeply abhorrent and have for years, it feels to me essentially like pleasant nihilism, i have no idea if anything means anything to this guy

quoting @nickcammarata: “Woo meditation claims are too strange to be real. You can’t just generate pleasure from nothing” the skeptical man said, bending time and space itself as he moves his lips

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No matter how wise or realized you are, if your memes are gonna predictably send people into tangles or ruts, people need to be able to point that out. For their own sanity (not silently assenting) and for naive bystanders who might otherwise fall into the traps.

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We all can see failure modes of each others' advice or approaches, that we can't see of our own. We all can see precious wholeness and fitness-for-me in our own approaches, in ways others can't. ayy lmao

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

if someone can't trust me in some way, even if I or others *do* trust me in this way then I cannot ask them to trust me more than they can trust me each person has been betrayed in different ways, and their trust must thus be earned in different ways

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Distinguishing the philosophy that seems to be emitted from the guy's twitter, from the guy himself, feels key to being able to talk thoroughly about this without effectively asking Nick to deny his own senses in order to understand his impact

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

No matter how wise or realized you are, if your memes are gonna predictably send people into tangles or ruts, people need to be able to point that out. For their own sanity (not silently assenting) and for naive bystanders who might otherwise fall into the traps.

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Replying to Fallen 🦇 • Rising 🕊️ @IamStupidPod ·

@Malcolm_Ocean It’s also a sign that you’re not actually interested in the conversation and you’re just hoping to get confirmation for your bias

@RiverKanies You think so? That feels like a very different flavor to me.

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Replying to Artischoke @Artischoke ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I cannot should the should away. When the time is right, I will tire of the should and retire it without coercion. Grace means tiring of the should. I cannot 'should' grace. Grace can be defined as that which I cannot should.

@Artischoke Beautiful.

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Replying to kerey @DreamSeyyah ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Oh, I thought "nothing to do here" meant they couldn't do anything to fix your problem because of some conflicts in the system. Like how it happens in bureaucracy when the system is so flawed there really is no solution unless somebody can bend the rules. x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

@giray_arat Haha yeah, I left it ambiguous in part because funnier but mostly because 280 characters actually. Glad I did tho, I think it hits better.

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Replying to secret eris @eris_nerung ·

@Malcolm_Ocean you know it's a good one when the monk, not the student, is enlightened

@eris_nerung hm? some difference of which zen stories use which word?

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@DaveCBeck @Malcolm_Ocean hmm, interesting, closer to a yes, but still a no. the "no" is something like "i don't want to be in a container / i feel very skeptical / i feel sensitive to any idea i have to fix myself in this time i am talking with them"

@AskYatharth @DaveCBeck Ah yeah, I definitely wouldn't be aiming to get anywhere in particular, just to literally find out if you can look at it at all, with some help to be in the ZPD

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv part of it is that identity is theoretically treated with respect, because it's considered normative to say it isn't a choice, and that gives a way to push back against demands for conformity. Like, that's why it's so important at the moment, it's the only leverage anyone has.

@slimepriestess @nosilverv Yeah, you're helping me notice that I find that super weird. Identity seems extremely choicey to me since it's a choice of meaning/word/label Like my male friend who wants to be with men but doesn't like the vibe of the word "gay". He's not not gay, but he also isn't gay-as-such

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@slimepriestess @nosilverv And I suspect that many others resonate with the idea that choosing your identity is totally a thing, and this might be part of why they're pushing back on it. I lobby for a world where people can just... not-conform and don't have to make it a Legible Thing in order to do so

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Replying to ER!S was at fivecamp @bstract_thot ·

@QiaochuYuan @Malcolm_Ocean u both ratio me so hard, i promise me and my 400 followers aren't a threat to you

@bstract_thot @QiaochuYuan ❤️ (QC - I do think this kinda counts as a microaggression haha, and the "I'm just saying" kinda vibes with that) (Eris I feel warm and friendly towards you and don't need to hash it out or anything!)

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean wait who or what was the monk again?

@aleksil79 I was the monk. This is entirely 100% a true story. I had a profound insight about friddlydazmilagoolia* that day. *perhaps better known (albeit with a fuckton of confused preconceptions) as "karma"

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Replying to Gorm @metaphorician ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Yes! Holistic design, please. Or whatever to call it.

@metaphorician If I were Spotify I would make a pair of headphones with this button (maybe partner with Bose or whatever, don't need a whole hardware division)

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is it. It was him after all.

@eshear Thought it was probably this one! It was very satisfying to be able to pull it up for you after having bookmarked it in 2016!

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean in retrospect, this is a very PCT use of the word "manage"

quoting @AskYatharth: *you do not need to manage your haters*

@AskYatharth "you do not need to control for your haters" lol

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don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean yeah, I was originally reasonably clear on that I think then I was swept into riffing on the analogy of letting hierarchically distinct parts of a collective entity directly communicate with eachother/itself 😅

@aleksil79 Haha I love the analogy of org somatic resonance Probably would be good for some orgs to do this kind of thing regularly, not just when a sufficiently persistent customer insists

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@Dumbbellradical But also note that I didn't actually say that more suffering was never better than less, I just said that memes are not a reliable authority on the subject.

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@Dumbbellradical And this is part of why! I'm just saying shit, and you're interpreting me, and even if I'm being honest and feel like I'm speaking clearly, your interpretation of me might be obviously absurd given what you can observe

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

Yes, yes, I get that if you started taxing estates more ppl would evade it more, actually implementing taxes is harder than it looks. The point is directly, it would take only 20% of estates overall and 50% of estates >$1m to fund it.

@eshear What do you think about land value tax as a much-harder-to-evade wealth tax that also creates a bunch of other good incentives? Seems very compelling to me. Buying land takes from the commons. Buying stocks puts money into businesses.

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Replying to secret eris @eris_nerung ·

@Malcolm_Ocean this "meme" format of zen stories tend to have the student asking, monk responding, and student being enlightened, no?

@eris_nerung ohhh gotcha In my memory it's teacher/monk not monk/student

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Replying to Eli Redd @Eliot__Red ·

@Malcolm_Ocean owns these pants. Even though he's never seen them before, lives in a different country and didn't know he owns them.

@Eliot__Red holy shit you found them! I lost those an eternity ago, and thought I'd never see them again can you ship them from wherever they ended up?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@jamesrcole @Malcolm_Ocean a nice example to add to your collection of "what if we made it good tho"

@visakanv @jamesrcole Thanks! But also wouldn't this mean that sand would push up through the towel when you press it against the beach?? I love the tie-downs though.

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Replying to SLIME MOLD TIME MOLD @mold_time ·

@Malcolm_Ocean friends

@mold_time I was suspecting answers like this might be more relevant than people realize! As well as stuff like "some sort of cred that makes them confident they'll still be able to find work/funding if they switch"

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Replying to Arvind Venkataramani is letting go of conditioning @_arvind ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Sensing into discomfort with the normative, often arising from a conflict between the disciplinary and a deeper paradigm you have more confidence in. Seeing a divergence between your experiences and the experiences of the people maintaining the paradigm.

@_arvind Exactly. I'm kind of wondering if there are upstream enablers tho... it seems to me like there's a lot of willful ignorance, like people don't feel safe noticing these tensions or something.

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

Today is my 35th birthday and I’m reviving an old tradition. If for any reason you’d like to give me a gift, please respond to this post with a link to the best thing you’ve read, watched, or listened to in the past year. Do it now before you forget. Thanks and love to you all.

@Conaw Vervaeke's Awakening From the Meaning Crisis series contains more total awesomeness, but this single article by @AndrewCutler13 is denser and extremely your jam. vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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@Conaw @AndrewCutler13 Funny parallel in that when I first tweeted it I compared it with a Kevin Simler article (though probably not the one I sent you, which I'm guessing was Neurons Gone Wild)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

one of the trippiest history articles I've read in awhile reminds me of @kevinsimler's Music in Human Evolution (summarizing a book by Jordania) in its "explains a bunch of seemingly unrelated things" "The Snake Cult of Consciousness" vectors.substack.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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Replying to Rob Carrington @imrobcarrington ·

@Malcolm_Ocean think my enjoyment would take a dip if it were called spittle-slurping

@imrobcarrington look ur not wrong

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Replying to la fête @asemic_horizon ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Note that's also an older text, and I don't fully endorse it.

@asemic_horizon I mean this all sounds extremely relevant to my interests, although I've yet to see what your theory offers that I haven't yet seen (surely something, I just dunno what) So if you want to try to write an intro for specifically just me, that could be fun/easier!

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean personally I spend most of my time on walks in the forest, exercising, meditating, hanging with friends and gf, doing research, and reading science books. I’ve seen a lot of tweets saying all I do is jhana and drugs (I dont even drink) and it’s so bizarrely far from the truth

@nickcammarata Yeah makes sense! I've personally found the biggest gains in my adult life from changing my situations, so I'm very sensitive to anyone who seems to plausibly be suggesting anything that could encourage someone to try to accept a situation that part of them was a "no" to

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@nickcammarata And I could imagine some relationships to doing jhanas that would be the opposite — it would release someone from the desperation that keeps them in the situation! And overall I feel like more capacity to tap pleasure is better.

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@nickcammarata But yeah, the sense of worldview I get from lots of your tweets does feel weirdly fixated on sensation and denying of meaning. Reminds me of people who reify and believe in the utility function they think they have, rather than living in the mystery and exploration.

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Much more common is that sleeping better and having more equanimity and joy gives you the boost you need to make your life better, even if the transition requires pain (leaving relationship, starting an exercise habit, eating better etc). Meditation/jhana usually goes similarly

@nickcammarata That's what I was saying! My guess is that jhana is great for most ppl, neutral the rest! I'm in favor of it becoming more widespread, & to some extent I appreciate your work towards that, although some of your & others' memes about it seem likely to create tangles around it.

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv patriarchy works partly via the belief that you don't get to choose who you are, and any choice you could make is an obligation to make the "correct" choice under patriarchy. You're only allowed to make a choice if you deny it being a choice. x.com/slimepriestess…

@slimepriestess @nosilverv my sense is that it's probably time for many people to shift towards being honest about the choice aspects, as you are here we need to align with the obvious (although it does also seem like most people don't choose their sexuality, and couldn't if they tried)

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I think meaning is great and it’s a sensation too. It follows the laws of sensations, if you learn how to amplify sensations at will you can amplify meaning too if you want. Though then normal meaning things are good too, relationships / kids / whatever. I hold it lightly

@nickcammarata I agree in some sense that meaning is a sensation but also this is where you sound nihilistic again! You can't just dial meaning up or down. You can FEEL it more or less, but it's co-created with other people.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the IToP gets really trippy in contact with the idea that meaning is a sense because it highlights that without shared context, we look at the meaning dimension of reality and "see" different stuff or as some would put it, "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I used to spend a month a year alone on and island before ever having a formal meditation practice and they were some of the most meaningful times of my life

@nickcammarata I'm sensing this is a different meaning of "meaning" than I have and I'm not sure how to go about clarifying. I'm not saying we can't experience meaning while alone... although I would say that the meaning I mean is still in some sense part of a conversation.

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@nickcammarata @Malcolm_Ocean and I think communication misunderstandings between dharma babies (all of us without twenty years of practice under our belt, or whatever nebulous threshold) in this direction is inevitable.

@RomeoStevens76 @nickcammarata It seems obvious to me that some forms of Buddhism *are* nihilistic or eternalistic, even if the wisest ones are meaningness-nondual. That this perception is not erroneous unless overgeneralized & what QC & I are saying here is that Nick seems to be preaching a nihilistic one

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean But if you don’t have those right now for whatever reason, having access to meaning through other means is good. No need to be needlessly miserable. At any point any of us could contract diseases that would leave us helpless, nice to be able to feel okay in bad states too

@nickcammarata What's your take on Viktor Frankl's approach?

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv Well there's an interesting bit of recursion there, right? I did choose to transition, to identify myself as the way I am, which comes logically prior to any way that I am in the world, but yeah, logically prior to that is just being the kind of agent that would make that choice.

@slimepriestess @nosilverv logically prior? (it seems we probably have pretty different senses of causal relations here)

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Replying to Plaiceholder @plaiceholder374 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nickcammarata If there’s something else I feel like I should be doing, that kills my ability to enter pleasant states of meditative absorption. Meditative bliss seems much more a compliment, rather than a substitute, for living in a way that’s aligned with what I value.

@plaiceholder374 @nickcammarata Mmm yup. I see it as a whole fractal buy-in process

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

have you considered that maybe the reason your thoughts are interrupting your meditation is that you didn't actually get their buy-in to take time to meditate, and they're tasked with taking care of something that's overdue, so of course they're trying to do that right now

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Replying to Jack @tracewoodgrains ·

for what it's worth there are absolutely kids who identify as animals, and the sources Reuters used for its "fact check" could have confirmed this trivially. schools aren't recognizing them as a protected identity afaik but c'mon, let's be honest here 1/x insider.com/florida-school…

@tracewoodgrains This is another example of the bullshit of "no evidence" that we saw so often in covid news. There's always evidence, the question is whether it's good evidence or strong evidence.

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

I don't think there is a single person on the planet I would want to trade places with. This is the life I always dreamed of, and my plan is to keep dreaming and working hard to make my dreams come true 🙏

quoting @sun_girlxo: How often do you wish you had someone else’s life (can be someone you know, like a friend or family member, or someone you don’t know, like a celebrity)?

@made_in_cosmos So much likewise. Every now and then I get envious of some specific thing someone has, but I'd never trade the whole package. (And lives, like lovers, are always a whole package)

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Beautiful story of inviting a baby into serious play in the realm of separateness & togetherness; of the dance between wills. I sent it to a friend who's struggling with weaning her 2yo; she said it healed & clarified a lot and made next-kid breastfeeding feel more viable

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so @__drewface and I were gonna have a podcast interview yesterday but my internet was super laggy so he just sent me a few questions and I managed to ramble for half an hour straight! re the dance/tension between doing stuff and deep interpersonal sync youtu.be/zH1xNr05Vpw

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @DaveCBeck ZPD?

@AskYatharth @DaveCBeck ZPD = Zone of Proximal Development ie what you can do with a bit of help or guidance (as distinct from stuff you can do without help, and stuff you can't do even *with* help) it's where learning happens!

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Replying to John McDonnell @johnvmcdonnell ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nickcammarata I'm struggling to parse how Frankl's approach contrasts to Nick's… seems like Frankl responded to horrors by "dialing up meaning" or am I missing something?

@johnvmcdonnell @nickcammarata I wouldn't summarize Frankl's approach that way at all, and that's part of why I'm asking. (not sure how I would summarize Frankl but maybe something about recognizing his fundamental freedom in each moment, not simply "amplifying meaning")

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you are absolutely free to do what you want you are not free from the consequences of doing what you do you wouldn't want to be—otherwise what would be the point of doing it?

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Retweeted @sonikudzu

this is (one of) the points of the sabbath it’s the purpose of the preparations

Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i… did not know those were the WHO’s instructions? kinda overwhelming to realize women are actually being instructed to do this en masse by authority figures it actually explains a lot

@sonikudzu yeah it's super fucked patronizing AS FUCK. crazy overreach. the article the quote is from talks about how this is inappropriate as all parenting theories ultimately exist relative to some particular society, so there OUGHT NOT be universal parenting advice

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the article that these quotes are from which is also quite good, although the author seems to be trying extra hard to be an ultra-sympathetic WEIRD narrator aeon.co/essays/why-run…

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Replying to John McDonnell @johnvmcdonnell ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nickcammarata I feel like this is one of those language games where everyone is saying the same thing but has a different language for it. "Recognizing fundamental freedom in each moment" is probably the most Buddhist way you could possibly approach a situation

@johnvmcdonnell @nickcammarata sure but the jhanas aren't the center of buddhism, right? they're sort of an aside to the 4 noble truths and 8-fold path, and they already existed in india as practices at the time?

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Thread · Letting inspiration flow by asking latent intentions to let go · 5 of 6 tweets

I have this hazy sense that this works in part via inspiration sometimes inspiration happens from a stray thought in the shower, sometimes it happens from seeing a relevant tweet to remix/critique then you have to allow it to actually flow

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

I realised today that I’m actually pretty happy like 90% of the time now what I have been interpreting as low motivation is actually low need-to-move-away-from-suffering, which is what has historically been my motivating force so now I get to explore happy-led motivation

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there are a lot of things that can get in the way of it flowing they can be internal senses of something-else-to-be-doing, whether that's an external obligation or an urge to go for a walk there are also things like the little (🔔2) that showed up while I was typing this tweet

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for either of these, there is a sense I have experienced, of asking every other latent intention if it will let go so that I can focus on whatever it is I've chosen to focus on

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

have you considered that maybe the reason your thoughts are interrupting your meditation is that you didn't actually get their buy-in to take time to meditate, and they're tasked with taking care of something that's overdue, so of course they're trying to do that right now

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pomodoros can be reunderstood as a way to organize that letting-go process ALLOWING yourself to do what you want to do

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

a thread on an experience of pomodoros as a form of freedom, rather than forcing 🍅 during (25min) work block: the chosen intention is free to veto any other intention/inclination/urge 🍏 during (5min) break: ANY intention is free to veto any other

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I've written about this dance of inner wills in a very poetic form here. I'm still far from practicing it all the time, but I'm circling around deepening into it. malcolmocean.com/2023/03/art-is…

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Replying to John McDonnell @johnvmcdonnell ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @nickcammarata I should say I don't think slavish adherence to an attempted reconstruction of the Buddha's practice is necessarily the right thing for everyone in the world but it's not like this is some weird thing that the Buddha stopped teaching after awakening

@johnvmcdonnell @nickcammarata right but I'm pretty sure this was NOT what Frankl was doing at all, so I wouldn't call this just a language game

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

Summarising prominent anti-psychiatry thinker Thomas Szasz: ‘Although he has objected to compulsory psychiatric treatment, he has stated that he has no objection to psychiatry between consenting adults.’ 😂🤣

@utotranslucence does this count? youtu.be/_f2WFFwBZPc

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Replying to heart astrologer✨ @dorjepadma ·

@vividvoid One of my favorite memories from college was arguing with a non Buddhist friend about how all phenomena is empty. He hit me with a beer mug and said , “ was that empty.?”

@dorjepadma @VividVoid_ well was it tho? or did you get splashed?

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observation: it seems possible for advice to be universally bad, but not possible for advice to be universally good

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean there is precious little concrete advice on anything that should be universal, but i will say that this advice is as universally bad as it is possible to be “condition your kid to have unreasonable expectations while intentionally eroding your sense of self” is just Bad Advice

@sonikudzu oof I find myself making this generalization from that:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

observation: it seems possible for advice to be universally bad, but not possible for advice to be universally good

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Replying to Richard Ngo @RichardMCNgo ·

@Aella_Girl @nickcammarata @Malcolm_Ocean I think the "meaning is just a sensation" thing is a trap. Our preferences aren't defined over our own minds, they're defined over the world. Whether or not something is meaningful can depend on things outside our heads (e.g. whether we're being lied to or not).

@RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl @nickcammarata I'd differentiate - "is a sensation" - "is just a sensation" - "is a sense" only the third of which I would mostly agree with, and only "in some sense" can't reduce everything to "just sensations" without confusion

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Thread · Letting inspiration flow by asking latent intentions to let go · 1 of 6 tweets

so yeah, I don't claim to have it all figured out, but I have a pretty good overall feel for the problemspace here and I'm super down to jam about it, on twitter or more focusedly at these workshops next weekend tickets: intend.do/event/gci?tw=m…

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've been part of running online intentionality workshops for 6+ years, and we're pretty seriously considering rebranding them this year given how much our philosophy & approach has evolved in that time. "Goal-Crafting Intensive" ➔ "Beyond Goals Workshop"? Some reflections:

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Retweeted @IntendApp

a thread on an experience of pomodoros as a form of freedom, rather than forcing 🍅 during (25min) work block: the chosen in…

Replying to olivia @4confusedemoji ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @slimepriestess @nosilverv its a political fortification in the landscape. the wider the audience the more incentive there is to claim there arent choices involved. and that backtraces into peoples thoughts, so they dont accidentally tell their political opponents that it was a choice.

@4confusedemoji @slimepriestess @nosilverv It makes sense but it also means denying obvious things that your opponents are acknowledging, which gives them fuel

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How people end up with crazy (to you) ontologies: they have some experiences they don't know how to make sense of and a crazy ontology comes along and says "hey look here's how it makes sense" and it is legit kinda helpful (but then obscures other things obvious to you)

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Replying to Vivek Patel (He/Him) @meaningfulideas ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Contrarian mode activated I think "Don't hit your kids" is pretty universal!

@meaningfulideas I basically agree with you, especially about this specific, although I also think there's something to what I'm saying. Ah! Your statement has a negative in it, and could be reframed as saying that "hit your kids [in situation X]" is universally bad advice.

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@meaningfulideas Whereas a positive imperative, to DO something in particular, is more likely to be appropriate for some situations and not others.

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean haven’t read it, one day

@nickcammarata I've only read the first chapter of MSFM, but I felt like I got enough of a pith from that and other lil references, to be able to orient a bit by it.

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Replying to olivia @4confusedemoji ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @slimepriestess @nosilverv yeah exactly, i agree that its about time to do the work to make the subtler points, but people are going to fight it from both directions the whole time

@4confusedemoji @slimepriestess @nosilverv Yup! Against-us folks gonna be against us.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

If you're not against "if you're not with us you're against us", you're against us.

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Reading Jane Jacobs and discovering that supposedly the fact that USD, CAD, AUD, GBP, EUR have all remained the same order of magnitude as each other is not a mysterious convenient coincidence but the result of an agreement!

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@jambarree because I find it funny

@m_ashcroft @jambarree Hmm it seems a lil weird to me too but I understand how tangled one can get about selling stuff online so idk maybe you saying this is part of your process rn

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@JakeOrthwein @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl @Malcolm_Ocean Like couldn’t you say oh yes anger isn’t a feeling it’s a relationship with the outside world mediated by feelings? I think just treating it as a feeling generated by a world model (that can track other things but doesn’t have to) works great to model it, and is very simple

@nickcammarata @JakeOrthwein @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl Something about your use of "world model" here makes me think you're making the error that @aphercotropist is regularly on about. And stuff about indirect realism and so on.

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Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @jambarree to be honest there’s something odd to me about this level of meta commentary / psychoanalysis on a throwaway tweet I appreciate the supportive vibes and wouldn’t want to put you off doing it again, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

@m_ashcroft @jambarree Haha legit

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Replying to thinkagainer @thinkagainer ·

The rest of you need to grow up and start admitting that you're the one who loves your friends; it's not the universe doing it 😤

@thinkagainer Yes except for the suggestion that I'm not also the universe

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Neil is incorrect here, as the Universe includes us and we are not blind to our sorrows nor indifferent to our pains. We're sometimes blind or indifferent to each others', but the Universe is never. twitter.com/neiltyson/stat…

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Replying to Karen 🐭 @kwstewart94 ·

@BretWeinstein I have liked and retweeted your pinned post countless times. Twitter 'helpfully' keeps reverting it to not liked and not retweeted.... Clearly limiting free speech.

@kwstewart94 @BretWeinstein Weirdly it seems to do this quite often with pinned tweets in particular (including for small accounts). Might even be a caching/display issue where they are retweeted but it isn't shown.

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @m_ashcroft @jambarree I wonder what the significance of you wanting to comment on this is, Malcolm? It's interesting that this tweet in particular is what you picked up on, possibly it relates to some unresolved tensions with your mother...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft @jambarree Hmmm yes she was always known for being an excellent saleswoman 🤔🤔🤔

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I have renewed excitement about this idea as I'm reading Jane Jacobs and seeing the primacy of cities. In some sense it suggests this map might roughly map onto the ideal size & shape of economic membranes / nation-states.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'd love to see like a watershed diagram for which city people are referring to if they say "the city" or "I'm going to the city" because eg Waterloo is the same size as Halifax, but if you say "the city" in Waterloo, you mean Toronto. whereas Halifax is it for nearly all of NS

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I'm going to tentatively declare that this is good news for basically everybody! 99.9% of people at least. and for those who isn't it's not political it's like "exec at current top phosphate mining company".

The Spectator Index @spectatorindex ·

Massive underground deposit of phosphate rock discovered in 🇳🇴 Norway, with enough mineral in the rock to meet global phosphate demand for fertilizer, solar and EV batteries for decades to come.

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Replying to 𐫱 arcove 𐫱 @dschorno ·

wait hold on.. magnets are fucking strange right? they exert force.. do they run out over time

@dschorno yeah forces themselves are fields gravity also doesn't wear out it's only when something moves through a field that energy is used or released, but the field remains

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@tylertrails @JakeOrthwein @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl @Malcolm_Ocean yeah I’d say it’s like I used to have x and now I have mx+b, it’s still tracking x and basically has the effect it used to, but the total value is always much higher than it ever was

@nickcammarata @tylertrails @JakeOrthwein @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl mx+b feels helpful as an analogy

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Thread · Every city should have its own currency: Jane Jacobs meets crypto

every city should have its own currency (= my remix of Jane Jacobs in the eta of crypto & digital currency)

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This effect is mediated through currency—exchange rates reflect the power of a cities exports and make incentives for cities to become more prosperous. But in this era we might be able to solve this without cities seceding. Just need their own currency! Enter crypto?

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You wouldn't need crypto to do this. In some sense it already happens via modern credit cards when you buy software or clothes from another country! Auto conversion! Ppl would probably resent the absurd 3% conversion fee... but if it felt like @transferwise card…!?

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I've read a bit about how a city or town in Germany became very prosperous in the Great Depression using a local démurrage (depreciating, encourages spending now) scrip note pegged to the franc but with a 5% loss on conversion. It's a rough proof-of-concept for parts of this.

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Pegging the value *might* be okay to start with but it'd totally defeat the Jane Jacobs point here as it wouldn't allow the magic that happens when the city has a feedback-creating exchange rate that reflects the supply/demand flows of resources across the system boundary.

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So to achieve this effect, it would have to be the case that the local companies are straight exporting in this currency 🤔 Like if SF did it, you'd have to pay for Twitter Blue in SF dollars (which would be politically weird even if logistics were easy haha)

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This would then get into some pretty confusing issues where internet subscriptions from other cities would fluctuate a lot in value, which is disorienting and hard to keep track of. A major downside. Not sure what to do here. They should tho! Fixed is fake.

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Moreover they'd fluctuate based on both the economy of the city you're buying from AND the economy of the city you're living in (thus getting your purchasing power from) Which feels like a lot. But I'm still excited by this idea.

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Oh snap maybe this could naturally be combined with a land value tax and UBI that are both denominated in city currency! That would definitely create supply & demand. Citizens get UBI in CityBucks, & somehow all businesses (exporting and local) need to get CityBucks to pay LVT.

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Any city trying to do this would encounter the fact that all locals still need to do a lot of dealings with the federal government currency, for taxes and buying things from out-of-city. But again, we're already kinda used to foreign exchange on international purchases.

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I bet one vital component for any city wanting to do this would be to make kickass banking accounts, cards, & software that would make it beautifully easy to manage these conversions, and track federal taxes based on local income etc.

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That would make the citizens much more excited by the change. I could even imagine systems that encourage locals to be proud of their exchange rate. By contributing to the local economy, you make everyone in the city more able to afford imports! Help people see wealth.

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So! This idea feels pretty nonviable atm just because it's so weird and would require cooperation from so many entities. But maybe still a good seed. Probably best to start it somewhere like Detroit, that has had its economy collapse due to the absence of the key feedback loop.

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Replying to Tom Critchlow @tomcritchlow ·

Alright Tom, sheesh it's called a midlife crisis. No need to organize a whole conference about it.

@tomcritchlow Ty's got the playbook

Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

I made myself a 24-person 3-week residency just to have an official-feeling structure that would permission me to finish my novel do I need help?

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Replying to Tom Critchlow @tomcritchlow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This seems like a real pro move (I need this)

@tomcritchlow You're in Brooklyn? I'm sure @__drewface would be stoked to light a fire under your ass to take on making this happen (and he might also help with it as well, or know people for it). Also CC'ing @TylerAlterman

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Moreover, the types of places that love homeschoolers will be the types of place homeschoolers love to work, in general. And if there's a shortage of such workplaces, that's a sign it's time to start more like that.

Hannah Frankman Hood @HannahFrankman ·

I got my first three jobs *because* I was homeschooled. All three of my first bosses told me “oh, we love homeschoolers.” Being homeschooled isn’t a hurdle you have to get over when you enter the real world. Often it’s actually a huge asset.

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Replying to Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin ·

Today a guy actually argued with me that sexual double standards don’t cause female sexual pleasure to be undervalued in society. 🥴 He also argued that sexual double standards aren’t an obstacle to including clitoral anatomy in medical literature. 🤦🏻‍♀️ What is this brain damage?

@MediClit Why did he think that? How *does* he think it worked? Different things are obvious to different people. In general I've found when someone doesn't see the things that are obvious to me, it's because I seem to be denying something that's obvious to them.

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@MediClit But yeah, it is really frustrating! And you don't have to try hashing it out with people who don't seem like good candidates for thinking together.

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Replying to Andrew Rose @__drewface ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @tomcritchlow @TylerAlterman we already have the mini-conference playbook down, I think we could figure out the whole thing in ~10 man-hours of planning + 5-8 hours of actually setting up and running the mini conference seems like a worthwhile experiment for that price :)

@__drewface @tomcritchlow @TylerAlterman @FANswitchboard at work

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any advice that applies universally can also be derived universally because it's universally true therefore you can only truly *point it out* to someone; any version that involves taking your word for it is actually a misconstrued version

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Replying to Brandon Goldman @BrandonGoldman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean The Non-Aggression Principle seems like universally good advice to me!

@BrandonGoldman Ha! You have inspired a new take:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

any advice that applies universally can also be derived universally because it's universally true therefore you can only truly *point it out* to someone; any version that involves taking your word for it is actually a misconstrued version

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Replying to Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean He thinks female pleasure isn’t valued because men are biologically more selfish and some are biologically more submissive. Maybe, but that wouldn’t account for impact of SDSs declining. 🙄 He thinks clitoral anatomy got omitted because of a random accident? 🤦🏻‍♀️

@MediClit Hmmm. I mean certain modes of male sexuality (which may be the only ones he or his friends are familiar with) definitely have an inward quality that doesn't notice their partner's experience at all, so that might map onto what he's seeing.

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@BrandonGoldman likewise with any universal advice. grokking Non-Aggression Principle is a deep truth but someone could hear about NAP and translate it into something dumb (or at least inappropriate to their situation) which would be then contextual (not universal) advice

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"I want the trust download" said @RomeoStevens76, and this half-hour convo ensued. I feel like I conveyed several core ideas from my Non-Naive Trust Dance framework in remarkable brevity & clarity! (audio-only) youtu.be/eaMg9_pav-o

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Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets

vid 68 - conversation technically not a video but it's on my YouTube so I'm counting it really juicy lil convo with a neat thing at the end. I'd like to have more short convos out there

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"I want the trust download" said @RomeoStevens76, and this half-hour convo ensued. I feel like I conveyed several core ideas from my Non-Naive Trust Dance framework in remarkable brevity & clarity! (audio-only) youtu.be/eaMg9_pav-o

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Replying to Brandon Goldman @BrandonGoldman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I strongly prefer the NAP, and think following it is good universal advice — and a great foundation for both law and ethics — but I still don’t think I’d call it a universal truth

@BrandonGoldman The true NAP is probably universally derivable. It would likely look like a tautology, perhaps a truism, but one that you can grok really deep in a way that transforms your life and improves your ability to build trust with people.

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@BrandonGoldman Decent chance that some clichés would even map onto it, although that's not true of all such deep structural universals.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Have you ever had an experience of suddenly grokking what an oft-quoted phrase, proverb, or cliché was saying? Did it come from looking at the phrase, or did you have a deep insight, go to express it, and realize you were saying words you'd heard before?

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Probably gonna buy a MacBook tomorrow (pronounced like a Scottish last name) How do I discern if it's worth paying for a Pro vs an Air? I know I like bigger screen & more ports I'll be doing some video & audio editing but probably nothing crazy anytime soon I game but not much

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Replying to @abhayance

@abhayance Half the nits? Oh snap, I do care a lot about screen power. I'm going to miss the 4k OLED on my Linux laptop that stopped charging last week.

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Replying to @danvalentine256

@danvalentine256 Oh snap. That's especially important if I'm getting a smaller screen. So far I haven't wanted more than 1 external monitor at a time but that's very much a function of a particular bespoke grid-shaped window manager I was using on linux. I could be a vertical screen guy very soon

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omg there should be a little moving waveform (like SoundCloud) in video chat platforms that shows when video is off, so that you can tell if the audio has cut out (for no extra bandwidth) so obvious how has nobody done that yet

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Replying to Jake Orthwein @JakeOrthwein ·

@nickcammarata @vainapazprimo @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl @Malcolm_Ocean Fwiw i don’t think he would have taken issue with your pov as practiced. He was very pro-meditation, pro wellbeing, etc

@JakeOrthwein @nickcammarata @vainapazprimo @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl Source of that excerpt?

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Replying to Gretchen McCulloch now at @gretchenmcc.bsky.social @GretchenAMcC ·

Nobody: No one at all: Absolutely zero people: Me and @superlinguo: okay what if we just read 700 linguistics example sentences out loud in our slowest and calmest voices

quoting @lingthusiasm: Sometimes linguistics example sentences are so charmingly bland that they could lull you to sleep. We thought, what if we took this effect literally? We present: LingthusiASMR, a very special bonus episode https://t.co/MY9vaVbVt4

@GretchenAMcC @superlinguo I hope you got the microphone nice & close to your mouths

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show me a philosophy and I'll show you the personal experience of wisdom/distrust-from-having-been-screwed-over that it came from

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one of the things I find most annoying about a lot of life these days is it feels like there are a lot of things that happen sufficiently infrequently that I don't feel like it's worth it (/possible) to actually treat them as skills to develop

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Update: went to bestbuy & paid a lot less for the 2021 MacBook Pro, which according to reviews is basically as good as the 2023 model unless you need specific features like 8k monitors. Feeling satisfied with my process!

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Retweeted @Morphenius

Is there a book like "Thinking Physics" but for chemistry? Where instead of memorizing a bazillion principles or pretendin…

Replying to @abhayance

@abhayance hit me with the apps! I just got set up and I'm already like "what's the best window manager that allows me to reposition windows using my keyboard???" would also like different workspace control than mac default, where switching workspaces affects all screens at once

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Replying to James @jambarree ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is because awayness doesn't have a direction, right?

@jambarree I suspect these two facts are related but I'm not sure how something to do with here:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@meaningfulideas I basically agree with you, especially about this specific, although I also think there's something to what I'm saying. Ah! Your statement has a negative in it, and could be reframed as saying that "hit your kids [in situation X]" is universally bad advice.

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@PKrunstein @made_in_cosmos not exactly but I have a whole ass website and global network of community organisers microsolidarity.cc

@RichDecibels @PKrunstein @made_in_cosmos who in your network is based in SF? me & @utotranslucence might like to jam with them

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Retweeted @__drewface

okay but imagine if you wrote down: 1) everything you want in life 2) how other people can help you get it 3) why they wan…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

what do you hear when I say the word “dreamwork”? If I say we’re gonna try some out, what do you expect to happen next?

@the_wilderless

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Replying to Matthew Pierce @MJPiercello ·

Cellist here, with very much the same personal/professional experience over the last few years. I have ideas on how to heal the rifts, but who will listen? New propaganda evolves faster than a solution can be explained. In the name of tolerance, of course.

quoting @FloridaThales: 1. I want to rant about some things that suck about tribal politics. I've lost so many friends and groups over the years because I don't go along with popular narratives. It's depressing. I've been a DJ since the late 90s. Was in the goth and rivethead scenes. Plus trance. htt

@MJPiercello I've started trying to cultivate more public space where I say what I actually think and invite people into dialogue around it, and refuse to let myself be convinced that I'm simply falling for an ideology (although that may be part of what's going on) eg

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've recently been noticing that I don't have a way to conceive of anybody as "white" without it increasing my racial prejudice it's a fake category whose main (only?) uses are: - justify white supremacy or defaultness - blame people based on skin color both of which I reject

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@MJPiercello and this one, which talks a bit about the metapolitics around people saying the obvious or denying the obvious

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the hashtag #CisIsNotASlur reminds me of an older relative asking me what "cis" meant. he assumed it was a slur because the only time he'd heard it it was his kid angrily calling him that he didn't know the meaning, but he knew it was an attempt to invalidate his experience

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Replying to Matthew Pierce @MJPiercello ·

An argument that obliterates your faith in human rationality (but rebuilds a better, far more hopeful alternative from the wreckage) How would you pitch this?

@MJPiercello wait you have one or you want one?

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Replying to Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

lol is there an adjective for something that vibes sooooo evil but might actually be a good thing?

quoting @BrianRoemmele: AI based laser based pesticide and herbicide. No chemicals. Meet Ironman… https://t.co/F2f0fp9728

@TylerAlterman sheep in wolf's clothing

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Replying to Andrew Rose @__drewface ·

favorite insight in a long time from @sanjehorah a remix on the idea that (dramatic) bad behavior gets lots of attention, which reinforces the drama. Suddenly, we are on stage, performing world-class drama-poetry, but the character is just... me. cc @Prigoose

quoting @sanjehorah: the illusion that you can be accepted for your authentic self by a faceless audience is addictive. it’s dangerous, when you feel like you can gain the acceptance of society for the parts of you that were rejected

@__drewface @sanjehorah @Prigoose divine drama

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I've recently been finding it a lot easier to be constantly laughing at the cosmic joke when I think of people's ego or persona as "them doing a bit" everyone is doing such a brilliant, perfect, performance of themselves! when you see it it's just ❤️‍🔥🤣😙👌

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Replying to Elon Musk @elonmusk ·

@ehikian @Scobleizer @IrenaCronin @enriquebrgn We’re deprecating Circles in favor of improved Communities & DM group chat

@elonmusk @ehikian @Scobleizer @IrenaCronin @enriquebrgn Circles >> Communities!!! the magic of twitter is that it's a decentralized network and nobody gets to (or has to) make moderation decisions on behalf of some reified "community": who is in? who is out? instead, we just block assholes from our own replies, with no need to agree

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@JakeOrthwein what book is this from and what is the [know] syntax??

Jake Orthwein @JakeOrthwein ·

@nickcammarata @RichardMCNgo @Aella_Girl @Malcolm_Ocean More on this. “When word and world part company, the world wins.” “Word” here can also mean qualia, and “world” can mean things like “the Good.” (The Good here might *depend upon*/be “cashed out” in terms of qualia, but it is not *the qualia one is presently experiencing, or

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Replying to James Stuber 🌱🌿🌳🍂 @uberstuber ·

this is a mundane stuff only thread, how’s the weather?

quoting @strangestloop: I figured it out! I tricked myself into thinking that I always have to say interesting and intelligent and insightful things in conversation because that's what I see from all of you all of the time. But it's not true! I can say more mundane stuff and it's fine!

@uberstuber very hot here in Bedford, NS but my dad got a heat pump installed the day me & Jess arrived so it's nice & cool indoors just got a new laptop but I'm mostly just hanging out on twitter so far instead of setting up or getting to things I'd been putting off for lack of laptop

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Retweeted @the_wilderless

words are fake but they do matter but don’t get stuck on them but don’t ignore them but language often obscures more th…

okay, I've joined Clan MacBook! hit me up with your fave MacOS tools! I'm particularly interested in keyboard-control stuff, window managers, etc power-user shit

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How the hell did it take me until today to think of pronouncing MacBook as if it's a Scottish last name?! This is amazing.

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Retweeted @__drewface

on ambition (thread)

Replying to Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

This random phone was ringing on the balcony of the Metropolitan Museum of Art today. People were walking by without picking it up, so I picked it up. Nobody was there.

@TylerAlterman how's Nobody doing? haven't talked with him in awhile

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Retweeted @diviacaroline

I might fuck around and start using the term “expertism” to mean like science:scientism::expertise:expertism

Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

I might fuck around and start using the term “expertism” to mean like science:scientism::expertise:expertism

@diviacaroline super here for this!!

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Replying to Matthew Pierce @MJPiercello ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I have one! But it resists linear translation, because I am a lousy storyteller as soon as words get involved.

@MJPiercello I mean metarationality.com & meaningness.com are the main other alternative I'm aware of what other media might you be able to use to convey it? make a drawing??

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Replying to CARNUN @carnundotcom ·

@Malcolm_Ocean "life these days" as in compared to earlier in your own life or as in 2023?

@CarnunMP this time in history I could be wrong but my impression is that there were fewer types of problems centuries ago

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Replying to @abhayance

@abhayance yeah, I think there's some sort of attitude around attempting to learn what there is to learn even if it doesn't directly apply to anything else my other meta-strategy is to have friends I can tap for these things

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@puheenix @lisatomic5 also @__drewface have you seen this stuff? all relevant to stuff you're on about I think. as part of our ambitions of starting new orgs, they may have very different forms than a lot of existing orgs, that are a lot more fluid

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Replying to Rika @RikaGoldberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Hmm..don't murder is one

@RikaGoldberg this is actually not good advice even if murder is universally bad because it fails to engage with an actual situation and offer an alternative

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Replying to Andy Ayrey @AndyAyrey ·

@Malcolm_Ocean interpersonal argument (i.e. over relational issues) or intellectual?

@AndyAyrey either! to be clear it doesn't mean that you're "wrong", it just means that you don't feel grounded in your own knowing, which means you're fighting a civil war with some other knowing

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Replying to Tom Critchlow @tomcritchlow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @__drewface @TylerAlterman @FANswitchboard I'm free 10.30 onwards in Brooklyn tomorrow. Let's chat!

@tomcritchlow @__drewface @TylerAlterman @FANswitchboard muahaha is this happening? I'm playing the role of gentle nudger it seems

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Replying to Andrew Rose @__drewface ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @puheenix @lisatomic5 yes yes yes!! this is exactly what we're doing right now w all the meta orgs in the neighborhood. ahh so cool. i was trying to coin new terminologt like "5th generation management", but someone already did it for me

@__drewface @puheenix @lisatomic5 "this is exactly what we're doing" — can you describe it in more detail? what's the "this"?

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some interesting thinking-out-loud on the difference between wanting-to-live and wanting-to-not-die twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF I dig the thread, yeah. relevant stuff. found myself rewording "not wanting to die" to "wanting to not die" — does that track or am I missing something key here? ("wanting not to die" is another option)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

some interesting thinking-out-loud on the difference between wanting-to-live and wanting-to-not-die twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…

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Replying to Andrew Rose @__drewface ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @puheenix @lisatomic5 i can try to record a vid, or maybe let's bookmark this for podcast next week. i didn't have good language for it till now so chatting is helpful

@__drewface @puheenix @lisatomic5 yeah I'm stoked. I have a new laptop now so we can make it happen also I'll be visiting yall in late Sept!

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Replying to Sytse Wielinga @sbwielinga ·

@visakanv Yeah! Confusing the Pathless Path and the Aimless Path. We have such powerful ways to tell ourselves that really, holding on to this life that is clearly not what you want, is for the best. "I'll be aimless and never get anywhere!"

@sbwielinga @visakanv hahaha amazing distinction @p_millerd you could do a thread about Pathless Path vs Aimless Path

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Replying to david @dudelson_ ·

i was surprisingly happy in college given how bad my mental health was, which i now realize is largely bc a campus is a higher-trust env than what i have now and has built-in socialization if u have leads on how i could get this as an adult pls reply/DM x.com/dudelson_/stat…

@dudelson_ I have huge appetite towards campuses as well, for similar reasons I'm aware of @jasoncbenn working on this stuff in SF & @__drewface & others working on this stuff in Brooklyn NY so I'd say either move to somewhere people are hubmaking or decide you'll be The Guy for Boston

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Replying to david @dudelson_ ·

guess i gotta fuck around and find out huh

@dudelson_ youtube.com/watch?v=EYEDD2…

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Retweeted @the_wilderless

Just like domesticating fauna was a bumpy road for humans (trampled in stampedes, attack injuries, livestock-borne dise…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

Just like domesticating fauna was a bumpy road for humans (trampled in stampedes, attack injuries, livestock-borne diseases…) Many types of cognition & metacognition are (semi)domesticated psychofauna, and we’re still in the “folks getting trampled & catching rabies” stages

@the_wilderless yes! that's part of what I'm getting at here:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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Replying to @abhayance

@abhayance oooooh nice

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

>am at ice cream shop >want to taste more flavours >am constantly trying to gauge how many more flavours he will let me try >doing basically anything to avoid hearing a "no"

@AskYatharth omg this is hilarious/tragic underscores the power of an exercise I did summer 2012 called "rejection therapy" that had a bunch of prompts and the mission was to use each prompt & get a no each day. if you get a yes you have to try again! so I'd challenge you to get a no here!

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@AskYatharth like literally what if you sample every single flavor, then ask "can I try chocolate again?" my guess is that even at that point you'll get a warning, like a "one last X but then you gotta buy something" which saves both of you from him actually giving a "no"

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@dudelson_ @jasoncbenn @__drewface (obviously there can be many "the guy" people in a given city, but the point is that to some extent it seems like making this sort of thing happen requires someone prioritizing it at something like full-time job level—eventually probably many someones working together!)

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @AskYatharth ha! asking for a third taste of the chocolate at that point feels like a really socially taboo act — I'm surprised by how powerful that feeling is!

@ElodesNL @AskYatharth you could probably earn several more by saying that you'd like to buy a whole tub, if they sell whole tubs obviously you'll get in bad graces if you don't actually do so later, and also it doesn't feel good to be a freeloading creature so I don't recommend it

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fascinating thread about coercion/noncoercion, framing, inner conflict, etc resonance with the overall sense @mormo_music is getting at here, though I wouldn't say I 100% agree. also his perspective evolves midthread with more info, as does mine we're thinking out loud

bitbutter @mormo_music ·

what 'taking children seriously' means to me includes taking seriously the responsibility to judiciously wield coercion, as a parent. but when you do use it, you absolutely don't pretend that you're not doing so. 'youre having trouble' is gaslighting in this context.

quoting @mbateman: me: We’re putting a lock on your door for when you have trouble staying in your room after bed. 3yo: Ok! > next morning me: *forcibly breaks out of our bedroom* me: Did you put this on our door?? 3yo: Yes. It’s only for if you’re having trouble staying in your room at night.

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF ahhh yep, fearing death does sound more accurate I was attempting to distinguish [the absence of wanting to die] from [the presence of something that's trying to avoid death]

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this is the secret decoder ring many paths give me a distrustful feeling: mind hacking meditation, gospel of prosperity, se…

Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @ElodesNL i used to not pay for the bus for a bit when i first moved to LA. it seemed a tiny, petty thing to do, but just waiting for if and until the bus driver asked me to to pay was really acclimatising for my nervous system i do pay for it now, but im glad i didn't then

@AskYatharth @ElodesNL I guess actually the bigger issue here is the lying+betraying, in the scenario I mentioned it's one thing to freeload, another to say you'll buy to get samples then not buy also legit I think to sample a few ice creams then be unimpressed and not buy!!

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

hypothesis: sapience started out as a purely collective phenomenon and it took millennia of cultural-cognitive refinement to fit it in an individual to a meaningful degree

@aleksil79 have you read this yet? I'm not sure if in this model we would model the collective as having been sapient before this transition; seems like perhaps not (although maybe other kinds of wisdom were) vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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Replying to Imp @imperialauditor ·

feeling unmotivated to write blogposts that aren’t original even though I think the ideas would be well served by being further popularized maybe because I wouldn’t get quite so much credit for it? would appreciate thoughts and feelings

@imperialauditor I am also incapable of this and so far my main approach has just been to rave excitedly about connections between these ideas and other ideas, until people go "ooooh" and check out the original source eg:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Meta-thread of various threads (mostly mine) about Iain McGilchrist's brain hemisphere model!

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@imperialauditor I have been hoping that this will eventually inspire someone *else* to write a summary, but so far I'm not aware of that happening but I have gotten dozens of people to read books this way

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@imperialauditor as far as I can tell, my resistance comes from being afraid of being the reason why someone rejects ideas that I love feeling like if they read the original, they'd get it, so if they dismiss my take then they'll miss out forever not trusting my take to be a good filter

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@imperialauditor one possible way around this might be to try writing a summary specifically for one person who is already curious for a summary and just hasn't gotten around to reading the whole thing, and you're kinda trying to tease them into it while also giving them some of the goods

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

i had a therapist once give me a whole spiel about how habits aren’t actually real and we just have to keep choosing to do things it would be another two years before i found out about neurodivergence. maybe i should email him

quoting @KCDavisSays: Just saw this thread by @NomeDaBarbarian posted on tiktok and CAN A NEUROTYPICAL PERSON CONFIRM BC WHAT?!? You mean you do things w/o actively making a new choice to do it every time you do it and you dont have to exert the same energy to make yourself do it every time? https://t

@sonikudzu ahhhh man I would not generalize these to "neurotypical" and "neurodivergent". I think a lot of neurodivergent folks wouldn't resonate with the description given there at ALL (and maybe some otherwise-neurotypical-ish folks would???)

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Retweeted @jessicamalonso

Since attachment styles refer to how we relate to our emotions in the presence/absence of self/other and since we relat…

Replying to @diviaprocessing

@diviaprocessing I deliberately learned to put the seat down while flushing about a decade ago, and it was one of my most successful deliberate habit installations (out of dozens I tried that year) and it's also something I can inhibit if alone in a house (or with only dudes) for awhile

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@diviaprocessing not attempting to argue anything with that, it just seemed like an interesting anecdatum to add I strongly resonate that the ontology is very bad in the original discourse

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Replying to Jakeup @myhandle ·

it's funny on this app you get told "you're a cancer on society and should die" by randos and laugh it off but if a mutual goes "mayhaps the philosophy of meaning-making implied by your recent tweets is a tad overly nihilistic for my taste" and it's collective meltdown beef week

@yashkaf I see tendency in groups for there to be a kind of papering over of differences and sort of assuming that everybody is on the same page about a lot of stuff on lots of timescales, like just in conversations or years of community ofc randos gonna disagree, but shock when frens!

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Replying to Harry Taussig 🐘 @harry_taussig ·

I would like to relax and do something for its own sake But the only way I know how to do this is by watching youtube Ill do whatever the first comment here is for 30 min (if it’s something I can do for its own sake)

@harry_taussig put on music & dance (could be elodes album)

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania according to my favorite passage of Entering The Heart of the Sun and Moon... ...yes, but only if you make romance a spiritual practice where you focus on staying in touch with emptiness, impermanence etc

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Replying to Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

I need a *good* interface to my digital book collection I don't have it right now

@michael_nielsen I like how google play books on android lets me make a widget for each book so I can put them on my screen separately rather than having to browse them in the app but it could all be SO MUCH BETTER

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Replying to Amber Dawn @contemplatonist ·

I think this dynamic is messed up actually. Why do so many people who have many EA-ish attributes or who outsiders wd call EA, feel uncomfy with the label, so often that "EA adjacent" is a meme?

quoting @visakanv: @KolotaTyler @NathanpmYoung @PradyuPrasad https://t.co/HxXqucT9VS

@contemplatonist because they've been fucked up by trying to live by the philosophy this post shares a personal story about that, which resonates a bit for me thought I didn't go very far in that direction: forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AjxqsDmh…

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@contemplatonist the EA memeplex tends to cause people (speaking for myself and many friends) to believe that it's not okay to fully relax for a single moment this is an example of a superego not knowing its place; by saying "I am not EA" people are rejecting that demand

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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@contemplatonist (obviously some people who do consider themselves EA manage to reject that demand in some other way, but it seems to me that rejecting the identity is a pretty good way to do it as well, and I don't begrudge anyone their method of cultivating private peace & sanity)

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

We have run a version of this experiment w the FOIA laws and tv streaming from the floor of Congress. The result is all the actual discussions and negotiation moves into whatever medium can’t be tracked and recorded (usually phone calls or in person convos)

quoting @jack: Imagine your government built upon open protocols that they can’t own, control, or manipulate…every interaction visible to all. What changes?

@eshear @add_hawk has a great bit on this, talking about how Transparency Is Surveillance and in order to allow experts to be experts (questionable re politicians, but,,,) we need to give them space to think in ways they don't have to justify to everybody! youtube.com/watch?v=ZcEJY6…

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there are islands of Huxley too

@goth @goth600 ·

> be me > talking to psychic > she say’s she can predict the future in shocking detail > okay, is it Huxley or Orwell > she gets confused > pull out illustrated diagram explaining what is Huxley and what is Orwell > she laughs and says “it’s an interesting future sir” > 50

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@visakanv @MasterTimBlais @not_a_hot_girl @RebeccaMadison_ @vividvoid i was just thinking “hey guys who watch a lot of porn are focusing their time and energy on boobs so why don’t they get more boobs” but they’re focusing on images of boobs, so what they get is more images of boobs

@QiaochuYuan @visakanv @MasterTimBlais @not_a_hot_girl @RebeccaMadison_ @VividVoid_ yeah this is what it would look like if they actually focused on the real thing

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

The biggest difference between my husband and I is that his thinking process seems completely independent of the physical environment he's in? Like there's no way I can focus in a cluttered room and the best ideas come to my mind while cleaning--while he says I'm procrastinating.

@made_in_cosmos resonance between me & @utotranslucence I'm like "cool I will go into a little bare room and work on my laptop" and she's like "but we're in a suburb how can you focus in a suburb??" (clutter can mess me up tho for sure)

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Replying to SidewaysKoyote @sidewayskoyote ·

There's a common idea that any sort of positive emotional effect - like companionship- is "like junk food" (he says this in the thread) and a basic, assumed, negative. This is wrong. Totally incorrect. the companionship of a dog very much *IS* a good thing for young adults (and

quoting @DrCamRx: @sidewayskoyote Children cannot have their own children, so it’s a perfect training tool from ages 6-18 (other than raising younger siblings). Adults need to raise human children, unless they’re using dogs for their original symbiotic purpose: hunting and guarding (not companio

@sidewayskoyote that common idea is probably from puritanism

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Replying to Jeffrey Ladish @JeffLadish ·

Watching this video is surreal. I expected this would be a military product soon, but somehow seeing it in a promotional video hits different

quoting @tegmark: 2017: "#Slaughterbots are distant-future sci-fi" 2023: Elbit Lanius for sale: https://t.co/c8hQGb3yvM #BanSlaughterbots

@JeffLadish also "maximizing human survivability" is very overtly dehumanizing the uhh "enemy combatants" I'd like to see "war sucks. nobody wants to die. the enemy soldiers don't want to die either but at least we can kill them without anybody on our side dying" twitter.com/EsranurKaygin/…

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@JeffLadish what is the actual endgame here? surely people have sort of strategized it out like there's sort of no point of bots destroying other bots, except as a way to remove defenses so that then you can attack a target (eg a power plant or bigwig) or have people come occupy territory

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Replying to Anne-Laure Le Cunff @neuranne ·

Do you consider yourself a recovering productivity junkie? If so, I'd love to interview you for my book. My DMs are open. Please send me a couple of lines about your experience + your timezone :)

@neuranne anyone who resonates with "recovering productivity junkie" might like my little manifesto on why to focus on intentionality instead! read here: intend.do/intentionality or as a thread:

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

intentionality, not productivity

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Retweeted @neuranne

Do you consider yourself a recovering productivity junkie? If so, I'd love to interview you for my book. My DMs are open. Ple…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

the one thing that makes Burbea sometimes hard to listen to is how much time he has to put into pushing back on buddhist sociological knots “now some of you might be thinking ‘that sounds selfish, to meditate towards pleasantness’, but let me explain…” no need bro, move along

@the_wilderless I've started to get increasingly sensitive to where "reactionary" language/tone/vibe shows up including in my own writing and it's a necessary phase but it's overall kind of lacking in wholeness, and the next generation will just BE the new thing without pushing against the old

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Thread · Reading Dzogchen's liberating perception through McGilchrist's hemispheres · 5 of 15 tweets

reflections on this Liberating Perception article, aiming to just kind of think out loud about how I interpret it (which is kind of funny given that it's in part about non-interpretive response 😂) vajrayananow.com/liberating-per…

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it still seems to be quite precisely apt to me to understand all of what's being said here in terms of what Iain McGilchrist says about the brain hemispheres which feels to me like it gives me a really good handle for what a bunch of this stuff is about

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

1/ Reading Spectrum of Ecstasy (thanks @QiaochuYuan & @Meaningness!) ...and the parallels between it and Iain McGilchrist's @divided_brain model are... like 100%? If it weren't for the fact that IM doesn't use the term "non-dual", these pages could literally from IM's book.

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> To liberate interaction from pattern, redirect attention from mental contents to perception, and respond as beneficent space. using McGilchrist's model, we could describe this as redirecting attention from the LH's model to the RH's embodied & open experience

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the LH does a lot of things through scripts and autopilots and oversimplified models this is great for trying to carry out habits or solve certain kinds of procedural or algorithmic questions, but not so great for situations where deep listening & improv is needed

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> For Dzogchen, we are always already nothing other than beneficent space. This is not obvious, because we think we are our mental contents. I see this as a shift in identity from the LH to the RH! we are always already beneficent space because we are not just our LHs!

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@m_ashcroft Powerful insight. Did you listen to the AoA 'upright apology' episode?

@jonnym1ller @m_ashcroft what's the TL;DR on this? relevant to some drafts I have designed to cultivate post-blame apologies

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every real apology amounts to "I wasn't listening"

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every real apology amounts to "I wasn't listening" ...which isn't to suggest replacing every "I'm sorry" with "I wasn't listening". on the contrary, what works best is to say something that demonstrates having now taken in whatever one failed to receive at the time

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also in case it's not obvious, listening includes not just: - listening to words someone says but: - listening to someone's body language - listening to the negative space of what they don't feel safe saying - listening to the quiet parts of yourself that notice something's off

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also sometimes I'm ready to own that I wasn't listening to someone, but not ready to listen to them because I need to listen to myself more first! in such a situation, I aim to be honest about that and don't expect them to feel heard when I haven't yet

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Three steps for empowered dialogue: 1. see & affirm your own perspective deeply 2. hear the other person & take their perspective to their satisfaction 3. when they feel so heard that they can't help get curious about how you're seeing things, share your own perspective

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Thread · Reading Dzogchen's liberating perception through McGilchrist's hemispheres · 3 of 15 tweets

there's a question of how it was we came to identify with our left hemispheres in the first place. why did that happen? how long has that been true of humans? is it a meme, or is it genetic? in either case, when & how & why did it evolve?

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the best answer I've seen yet to this question is that about 10kya, humans developed, refined, & spread a ritual for becoming aware of recursion as a meme, thus aware of the thinking mind, thus the ability to refer to self-ness at all more details here: vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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this shift introduces self-consciousness ...why does that term connote awkwardness? it's that rather than fluidly responding from beneficent space or whatever, as interconnected participants, we're self-concerned & trying to deal with eg "good and evil"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

so original sin is dualism right?

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my funk face as I enjoy the bass coming out of my new macbook while listening to Jason Mraz's I Feel Like Dancing song: youtu.be/db_Twgw95nE

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Fuck. How is music so good.

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

missed my flight bc the line was too long and the agent couldn’t get me on a later flight 🙃 anyone have advice?

quoting @QiaochuYuan: flight leaves in 22 minutes and i haven’t checked in yet bc i’m stuck in line waiting for agent assistance 🙃 pray for me 🙃

@QiaochuYuan aw fuck call the airline if it's a remotely responsible/sizable one (some cheapo airlines don't even pick up the phone) & ask them how they can help make sure to imply that you did nothing wrong and that somehow you got delayed because they weren't processing things fast enough

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@QiaochuYuan however it might be that the *fastest* way to get where you're going will just simply be with another airline. I don't know much about flying standby but theoretically if you wander between check-in counters and tell them you're looking for a flight to Berlin asap you'll get one

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@QiaochuYuan I think it used to be a lot more common to buy plane tickets at the airport (including cheap last-minute ones) but now it's almost never done because (a) the internet is so convenient in other ways and (b) a bunch of stuff is optimized now that it's all internetty so idk

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@QiaochuYuan but yeah you might walk to different counters while waiting on hold on the phone with the original airline

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Thread · Reading Dzogchen's liberating perception through McGilchrist's hemispheres · 1 of 15 tweets

I haven't really seen buddhist attempts to address this origin question at all (link me!) but it seems very relevant to understanding what's going on here in my view, these practices are all ways to try to become whole again given that we live in a based on soul-shattering memes

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Replying to Ms. G 💖 @pragueyerrr ·

as a kid i always thought “be a man!” or “don’t cry, boys don’t cry” was so silly and dumb to say because how can someone be a man if they already are? how can boys not cry if they already are? be fr lmao

@pragueyerrr humans have a long history of dehumanizing humans people have a long history of depersoning people to be a boy who does not qualify for boyhood is totally a thing that can happen, in a social sense

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@pragueyerrr it is clearly a psyop tho definitely time to rinse out that superego lol

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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Replying to Richard Ngo @RichardMCNgo ·

I believe that people often deceive themselves in ways that make them seem better to others. But I also believe that most people mentally criticise themselves way too much. This seems prima facie inconsistent. What's going on?

@RichardMCNgo goodself/badself dynamics people contain both, and switch between them in response to situations book chapter on this (one of the GOAT book chapters) docs.google.com/document/d/1HK…

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Replying to @BenRatkaj

@BenRatkaj these days everybody writes, but not everybody is a writer

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Thread · Reading Dzogchen's liberating perception through McGilchrist's hemispheres · 6 of 15 tweets

I could go into a lot more depth on that front, and will, but for now this onepager is probably a pretty good place to start, and if you want more you can check out the Snake Cult stuff and David Deutsch's The Beginning of Infinity

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Malcolm, explain the evolution of consciousness right the fuck meow, in one breath, standing on one foot (reply below if you see your work (or play!) as being within this field, whether research or application!) twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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"mind is considered one thing awareness does" "primary and natural mode of being" "the continual presence of awareness" the RH doesn't stop being there doing its thing even if attention has gotten lost into the LH's fixations for a bit

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> Responding as beneficent space, not from your personal psychology, is not something you can do. It is something you allow, or find, by getting out of the way. RH is always there, but the LH can inhibit it from *responding*! and often does

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@jonnym1ller @SarahAMcManus > "LH needs to allow it to do that job" could sound prescriptive, and it sort of is, but it's also just highlighting that 70% of the corpus callosum is inhibitory, so the RH literally *can't* do it's job if the LH won't let it (& vice versa)

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I broadly quite like this instruction, especially the encouragement to practice it in low-stakes situations to get a taste but ALSO sometimes afaict the LH mind patterns are storing wisdom in the form of distrust, and it's vital to listen to those too in one's responding

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imo a sane version of this practice would incorporate THAT as well—not just a gradient of higher-stakes situations, but a gradient of situations that involve various kinds of distrust that one can learn to fluidly incorporate while staying expansive! vs RH inhibiting LH too much

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I speak here from TREMENDOUS experience I spent years trying to inhabit a fluid way of being, and the method I was originally using to do that involved repressing my distrusts, and this resulted in a ton of oscillation and internal schisming

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

show me a philosophy and I'll show you the personal experience of wisdom/distrust-from-having-been-screwed-over that it came from

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF fuck yeah! lots of potential there. looking forward to seeing what you come up with

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oooh we are going to develop a general theory of scissor statements apparently given that it seems possible to generate them quite effectively without understanding what makes them work, we might as well model them so we can learn how to make sense of them & become not-subject

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

ideally a scissors statement involves 3+ controversies mixed into one where it’s nominally about one thing and the replies make it very clear it’s not just about that thing

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Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets

@aphercotropist another thread connecting vajrayana buddhism and hemispheres! along with other stuff about the origin of self-consciousness — how DID we become identified with our mental contents? when and why and how did that happen?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

reflections on this Liberating Perception article, aiming to just kind of think out loud about how I interpret it (which is kind of funny given that it's in part about non-interpretive response 😂) vajrayananow.com/liberating-per…

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Replying to Arielle @anal0gfutures ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Only slave moralities tho

@arielleplus hmm I don't think so but I could be wrong! even "might makes right" can be framed as "I want to be strong so people don't screw me over" or as "I need to respect the big guy's might as right, otherwise he'll beat me up extra" what other master moralities do you have in mind?

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Retweeted @IntendApp

the to-do list is a good servant, but a bad master

I quite like the concept of -pilled, especially as extended to eg burbea-pilled or barefoot-shoes-pilled, but I'm not into the metaphor any alternatives?

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@WeftOfSoul committed weirdness practicer

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Practice being weird when the stakes are low so you'll be ready when it counts.

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

Are there any psychology books written on cultivating human flourishing, emotional resilience, or lifetime adult growth and development? All I see these days is trauma and coping

@made_in_cosmos for lifetime adult growth, there's Kegan's stuff of course stoicism has stuff on emotional resilience... so does John Vervaeke's stuff I feel like I have a patchwork quilt of this stuff but not a clear thing to point you to my @IntendApp-related book will have elements of this

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

Are there any psychology books written on cultivating human flourishing, emotional resilience, or lifetime adult growth and development? All I see these days is trauma and coping

@made_in_cosmos this showed up in my feed at the same time and somehow feels some of the answers might also be what you're looking for

anansi 🌞 @s0ulDirect0r ·

what book really blew your mind and opened you up to a deeper awareness and intelligence around relationships and relating to people?

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

Are there any psychology books written on cultivating human flourishing, emotional resilience, or lifetime adult growth and development? All I see these days is trauma and coping

@made_in_cosmos Csikszentmihalyi has a bunch of books expanding on the Flow concept and bringing it into eg business... flow states are definitely relevant to all of what you're talking about

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which (if any) of the MacOS alternate window managers also manage the uhh workspaces (the things that you can swipe between with 4 fingers on the trackpad) currently the workspaces are also dumb af, eg focus remains on the one I just swiped away from if I try to hotkey after

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trying to access my linux external drive (it WAS internal but it's external in a case now) on my new macbook, & having trouble thought it was ext4 but when I got ext4fuse set up it didn't recognize it linux VM time? UTM says no ext drive support VirtualBox doesn't work w M1 🤔

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Replying to human age @human__age ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Did you end up trying rectangle? I saved that based on the replies to your earlier tweet

@human__age haven't set any of them up yet; that's a main priority of today

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hmmm Parallels is $40 but that's worth it I guess if it's good, and they've got a free trial which might be all I need to solve today's problems I am seeing that by switching from linux to mac I may end up spending more money and less time making my computer do what I want

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Replying to Carsten @CarstenStolz ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Burbea-stan, barefoot-shoes-truther, sold on crypto, woke to doomer optimism, cozy believer. Hmm pilled really does feel catcher than any of those alternatives.

@CarstenStolz "sold on X" actually feels pretty close, although yeah grammatically somehow "X-pilled" feels better

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did you know that the phrase "Drink the Kool-Aid", while generally associated with the Jonestown massacre, pre-dates that event by 10 years and originally referred to the merry pranksters & acid-in-kool-aid?

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that context probably better matches the common current usage of the phrase as meaning "getting inducted into a cult / secret society, adopting strange views" — a kind of beginning vs the jonestown thing where that was uhhh the *end* of the whole thing

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Replying to Jacob Aldridge @jacobaldridge ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Perhaps unweildy and too unfamiliar, but “-Damascened” has an ethereal quality and historic flavour. “Look at Malcolm out for a run, boy he got barefoot-shoes-damascened.” “Drank the kool-aid” applies, but I avoid it because (1) 900+ people died, and (2) they used generic brand

@jacobaldridge the kool-aid metaphor actually has several origins, with a pretty unclear pathway of evolution

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

did you know that the phrase "Drink the Kool-Aid", while generally associated with the Jonestown massacre, pre-dates that event by 10 years and originally referred to the merry pranksters & acid-in-kool-aid?

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Replying to Jacob Aldridge @jacobaldridge ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Perhaps unweildy and too unfamiliar, but “-Damascened” has an ethereal quality and historic flavour. “Look at Malcolm out for a run, boy he got barefoot-shoes-damascened.” “Drank the kool-aid” applies, but I avoid it because (1) 900+ people died, and (2) they used generic brand

@jacobaldridge explain -damascened? no that I'll use it but I'm curious

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

prediction-ish: if someone were to write a new Christmas song in our lifetime that becomes a classic, the best shot they’d have to do it would to be make it a sad love song about unrequited love. “Last Christmas I gave you my heart” fits this but there’s room for a better one

@visakanv last christmas I gave you my heart the very next day you gave it away this year, to save me from tears i'll give it to someone special unlike you, last year—not special to me at all. why did I give my heart to you when you weren't special? why am I writing this love song about y

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Replying to Tomas Pueyo @tomaspueyo ·

India just passed China as the most populous country in the world. Why? Because of the biggest accident in history Look at where people live in India. What's that band up north?

@tomaspueyo what do you mean by "accident" here? it seems like it's more just like uhhhh factors.

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Retweeted @cdburgerjr

@visakanv I'm not a teacher: only a fellow-traveller of whom you asked the way. I pointed ahead--ahead of myself as well a…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

there’s so much solvable jank in our communal pool of sense making if I were actually arrogant I would have insisted that I already know all the answers and have written and published them years ago But idk the answers, I’m still thinking thru even finding the right questions

@visakanv > The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. Even those of the intelligent who believe that they have a nostrum are too individualistic to combine with other intelligent men from whom they…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the most important and valuable things ive learned from people are rarely ever some particular fact or figure. they’re almost always things like attitudes, a way of seeing, a way of moving, adapting, orienting. each person’s OODA loop enriches my own

@visakanv "their ooda loop, by which I mean soul..."

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"...their soul, by which I mean their relevance realization function"

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I wanna do a shoutout to everyone who's bought my books from: Tanzania, Fiji, Malawi, Kyrgyzstan, Liechtenstein, Bermuda, Namibia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Tajikistan, El Salvador, Bahrain, Oman, Uganda, Guatamala, Bulgaria, Jordan, Uzbekistan, Oman, Ghana, Peru

@visakanv personal connection with the global economy! I've gotten this feeling from manually mailing stickers to @IntendApp customers so far I've written the addresses on by hand, although as I scale I'm probably gonna print them on stickers

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Replying to Evan McMullen, ἰατρόμαντις of Slack @gnomicperfect ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Or was this an external drive from a different laptop which ran Linux?

@gnomicperfect it was an internal drive (M.2) from a different laptop which ran linux and whose ability to charge gave out recently it's now in an external case but I forgot I'd have to deal with filesystem issues

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Replying to Evan McMullen, ἰατρόμαντις of Slack @gnomicperfect ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Also what does command line diskutil say about the partition table on the external drive?

@gnomicperfect `diskutil info /dev/disk4` reports "I have no idea what's going on here"

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Replying to 𝕂𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚊 ❀ 𝔾𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛 @karma_gardener ·

@Malcolm_Ocean also recommend `brew install disktype` - may help recognize disk without futzing with VM. if it's really important data/if space allows I would `dd` the linux disk and then work on the image instead - may also help workaround UTM external drive restrictions

@karma_gardener space absolutely does not allow; the linux disk is 2TB (tho not full!) and my mac's hard drive is only 512GB if I had my OTHER external hard drive which is 6TB, then maybe I could do it, tho idk how that guy is formatted either

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@karma_gardener sudo disktype /dev/disk4 --- /dev/disk4 Block device, size off the scale (16780564501477023744 bytes) disktype: Seek to 16780564501477019648 failed: Invalid argument disktype: Seek to 16780564501476933632 failed: Invalid argument

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@gnomicperfect this is all it outputs for that device: /dev/disk4 (external, physical): #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER 0: *2.0 TB disk4

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Replying to hart the phoenix @puheenix ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i've gotten good help from chatgpt on juggling disk permissions and formats, knew more than an apple genius & gave me exact terminal commands for fixes

@puheenix gpt4 just told me I could use "Btrfs for Mac" which google is pretty damn confident does not exist

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tired: land acknowledgements wired: special economic zones for indigenous groups twitter.com/louismirante/s…

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Replying to Andrew Rose @__drewface ·

so, so cool. Everyone deserves the right to build, produce, and engineer on their land. Especially native tribes. I see this as a fundamental human right: the right to create, the right to build. This is a form of real justice that I didn't expect to see this year 😊

@__drewface

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

tired: land acknowledgements wired: special economic zones for indigenous groups twitter.com/louismirante/s…

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Replying to kasey @kaseyklimes ·

pov: you’re reading a article or blog post and come upon an especially interesting passage. what do you wish you could easily do with that passage right there, given a magic wand?

@kaseyklimes tweet it, automatically linking and doing screenshot or plaintext based on length, with alt text in screenshot and with the ability to add commentary or start a thread based on the quote

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Replying to dom @ryiacy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean tryklack.com is crucial

@ryiacy wait wtf this is fake mechanical keyboard switch sounds? I hate it lol

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okay by far the most annoying thing about this OS is that when I switch between two full-screen-workspaced browser windows, the focus stays on the old one! so I switch then see a tab I don't need, hit cmd+w and it fucking closes out a tab I can't even see! this MUST be a bug 🤬

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

Conceptual-linguistic cognition is a tool. Mistaking yourself for a tool reduces you to one.

@aleksil79 this is, arguably, the point (conceptual-linguistic identification evolved as a way to let humans coordinate by reducing most of them to tools)

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Replying to nvpkp @nvpkp ·

“wow have you noticed you’re making an assumption” buddy –

@nvpkp "lies" implies that they're intended to deceive, and that there could be some fact of the matter of reality in the first place; that truth & meaning was ever something more than correspondence and fitness for a given purpose ...a common misconception!

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@nvpkp this misconception is corrected by both buddhist teachings on emptiness (or see meaningness.com/what-is-meanin…) and also by the Interface Theory of Perception, which talks extensively about evolutionary fitness but concludes "interface, not truth nor lie"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

as I read Burbea, it seems quite viable that the idea that the buddhist "everything is empty" might map precisely onto Donald Hoffman's Interface Theory of Perception would love to hear others' takes on this! @JakeOrthwein @brspirituality @RomeoStevens76 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Guy James 🌍 guyjames.bsky.social @guyjames23 ·

@nvpkp this is Donald Hoffman, right?

@guyjames23 @nvpkp haha it would be funny if it was, since I just replied saying that (what I got from) Hoffman's theory is that perception is neither truth nor lies which points at this very puzzle, self-referentially

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Replying to @manipulanda

@manipulanda add another ramp front down to back of main ramp, and you can store+use canned food, putting new stuff in the top and taking old stuff out the bottom

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Thread · Fighting a macOS window-focus bug across desktops · 1 of 8 tweets

are other mac users having this issue? how did you fix it? I am on day two, I'm pretty damn sure this isn't due to some weird extension I installed (I mostly haven't even gotten to any yet)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

okay by far the most annoying thing about this OS is that when I switch between two full-screen-workspaced browser windows, the focus stays on the old one! so I switch then see a tab I don't need, hit cmd+w and it fucking closes out a tab I can't even see! this MUST be a bug 🤬

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Replying to Will @_brickner ·

@Malcolm_Ocean - install stats, visibility into “computer activity”, endlessly helpful. free. - reduce rate limit on key presses - hide the dock - disable most spotlight indexing categories - switch display scaling to “more space” - install Magnet or Rectangle (free) - turn off truetone

@_brickner I liked the idea of truetone, why's it bad?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

i used to try to at least glance at the bios of the people who follow me here to spot any interesting people, but now even that is getting hard to keep up with. if you’re interesting you’ll tell me, right? 😅

@visakanv yeah they'll tell you by doing this

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

this is free* real estate for anyone who wants it but only a very specific kind of nerd wants it and being willing to follow through on it is a kind of proof of work, like meeting a fellow pilgrim in an obscure monastery in the desert. instant kinship

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@visakanv err uhh this

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

the lesson here: read what you love, and quote it, and post about it online you will inadvertently become a beacon for other people like yourself the search results are proof: maybe only a dozen people will follow through on this. but that's the dozen ppl i'm looking for

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Thread · Fighting a macOS window-focus bug across desktops · 4 of 8 tweets

thought it went away when I upgraded OS version to 10.14.2 but apparently not!!! godfuckingdamnit this issue is BACK what the fuck WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK HOW DID APPLE GET SO MANY THINGS RIGHT AND WINDOW MANAGEMENT IS SUCH SHIT

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seriously I will return this fucker if I can't fix this, this is intolerable it has been vexing me all day and just overall making me feel totally not at home here happy to learn new hotkeys but most hotkeys should NEVER be affecting a window that is not even onscreen

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literally this bug resulted in me accidentally closing out the Apple Support chat window while I was trying to resolve this bug do serious mac users use fullscreen apps and multiple desktops?!?!?!?!?!? how the fuck is nobody else encountering this??? my macbook is new!

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THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF BULLSHIT THAT PROMPTED ME TO LEAVE LINUX FOR MAC, AND I'M GETTING MORE OF IT SOONER?!?!?

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also lol I completely misremembered the OS number it's ventura 13.4.1 idk how I got 10.14.2

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Thread · Fighting a macOS window-focus bug across desktops · 2 of 8 tweets

chatted with apple support, they tried getting me to reboot into safe mode which was actually a bit of a red herring for 2 reasons: 1. in safe mode, I didn't have access to Brave, the browser where the bug was occurring 2. the bug doesn't show up when the computer first boots

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so back in normal boot, waiting for the bug to show up again so I can figure out what's going on. maaaaybe it's just a Brave thing, tho safari and finder also behave weirdly if you use a hotkey before the desktop-switching animation finishes (they don't switch focus til then!!)

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

I didn't ask people their BMI, i asked them height and weight and then calculated BMI on the back end. Full attachment style question people got was this:

@Aella_Girl should disambiguate "high BMI, muscular" from "high BMI, fat". pretty relevant!

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Replying to yabanjin @_yabanjin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean life's good

@gene_minkov nope it was just rebooting that made the issue go away for 10-15 minutes and even when not, it's not 100% of the time, only like 50%? it must be triggered by some weird condition

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Thread · Fighting a macOS window-focus bug across desktops · 1 of 8 tweets

okay the bug is back!! and it's also happening when I use ctrl+arrow to switch desktops is there a way to speed up this animation to near-instant? that also seems vital for even non-bug behavior of being able to rapidly switch then do stuff keyboard-wise

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are there full-on replacements for the MacOS desktop/space system? workspace management was a hugely vital part of my workflow on linux, and the built-in MacOS one sucks this thing 👇 that comes up when you four-finger-swipe, and also accessed by fn+f and ctrl+arrow

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Replying to Sar Haribhakti @sarthakgh ·

Convinced showing the view count has been an epic self goal. Average view count on my tweet is an embarrassingly tiny % of my following. Either I have gotten 100x worse tweeter or the algo is not showing my tweets even to those who engage with me the most

@sarthakgh most of your followers are probably not actually on twitter much on a given day but yeah the algo is also not optimized for the user's deep satisfaction

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@spacecrone mmmm! <3 (was just talking with @utotranslucence last night about her ideas/plans for a mental health first aid training program! she's probably keen to know more about this or talk about it)

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

This is interesting, how would Meaningness for Christianity look like? - focused on personal and community practice as vehicle for transformation - allowing for nuance, no black and white ethics - neither traditional nor modern, rituals preserving the purpose rather than form

quoting @Plinz: Someone should do for Christianity what David Chapman tried to do for Buddhism

@made_in_cosmos came across this again and struck by how @PageauJonathan seems to be working on stuff like this (not sure what to refer you to, I just see him referenced regularly in Vervaeke's sphere)

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Replying to titan @bobz44 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i use spaces altho i make some tweaks anything particular you are trying to do? there are some good window managers, i like moom

@bobz44 literally I am trying to do anything at all without it being fucking stupid

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

okay by far the most annoying thing about this OS is that when I switch between two full-screen-workspaced browser windows, the focus stays on the old one! so I switch then see a tab I don't need, hit cmd+w and it fucking closes out a tab I can't even see! this MUST be a bug 🤬

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@bobz44 but my preferred situation would be to have a 2×2 workspace grid, like I had on linux wait @AndyAyrey weren't we talking about this 2.5 years ago and you were working on something like this for mac???

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Retweeted @utotranslucence

Learning about the work of the Idiographic Dynamics Lab at UC Berkeley is teaching me the terms researchers use for so…

I am kinda trying to unify idiographic and nomothetic approaches lol 😆 finding universal laws of the path-dependentness of individual trusting processes

•Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

Learning about the work of the Idiographic Dynamics Lab at UC Berkeley is teaching me the terms researchers use for some shit I’ve been wanting to know about for the longest time Idiographic: studying the path of individuals Vs Nomothetic: searching for universal laws

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Still lots of tickets available for our midyear intentionality workshops coming up next weekend! Live coaching—if you like my vibe and want to spend a few hours thinking about your life with me there to think with you, this is a great chance for that! intend.do/event/gci?tw=m…

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Replying to Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

Inflation targeting by central banks is usually in the range 1-4% p.a. or so. Why is that a good number? Is there a first principles derivation?

@michael_nielsen oooh I like this question

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Replying to Micah Redding ▶️ @micahtredding ·

All the complexities of 2000 years of Christian theology—is about maintaining the promise that we can share all the knowledge, glory, and power of God.

quoting @micahtredding: “All the dogmatic battles the Church has waged down the centuries [are] dominated by the constant preoccupation to safeguard, for all Christians, the possibility of attaining to the fullness of the mystical union.” ~ Vladimir Lossky, The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church

@micahtredding Seems a bit like how old Buddhist stuff is like "you can get enlightened in an absurd number of rebirths" but then the mystic schools are like "why not now tho?" (re)union with God is all anyone has wanted since the fall @RomeoStevens76 tweeted a vid about this recently

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Replying to ☯️ 🐻 @chercher_ai ·

Folk spirituality starts to make a lot more sense when you realize that by "The Universe" they mean Mara

@chercher_ai Example quotes?

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Replying to francis @pachabelcanon ·

@Malcolm_Ocean malcolm u keep posting these bangers that make me like. why aren't you Deleuzepilled yet

@pachabelcanon sounds like it's up to you to hit me with deleuze memes & excerpts til I see the light!

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Replying to 🎃 Mark 👻 🟡⚪️🟣⚫️ @meditationstuff ·

@Malcolm_Ocean TotalSpaces

@meditationstuff Holy shit that looks perfect 🥹 But supposedly breaks with new OS and/or Apple Silicon (both of which I have) 😭😭😭 developer.apple.com/forums/thread/…

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I'm heading in to the Apple store to confront some Apple employees on behalf of everyone in this thread. I want to take seriously the fact that they have humans available to talk to on the front lines. Lmk if you have specific things I should bring up!

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Replying to Ryan Petersen @typesfast ·

I have joined Founders Fund. If you are someone who’s out to get revenge after having been wronged by a previous employer or investor, a French technical founder who fled socialism to build your company in America, or a Christ-like figure of any kind, please get in touch.

@typesfast I'm sometimes Christ-like although not super legibly. happy to talk more about that work though if you're serious about wanting to fund it.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

aim: to absolve everybody's sin, but actually explain to people exactly how I'm doing it so they can check my work it's insufficient to just insist that people trust me when I declare the previous moral regime has expired (even though Jesus was entirely correct on that point!)

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Replying to @ClassOfProblem

@ClassOfProblem hmmmmmm looks like yabai disables animations for switching spaces, which would solve many of my problems which seem to be caused by focus not switching until the space-switching animation has finished

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Replying to Andy Ayrey @AndyAyrey ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @bobz44 Yes! I ended up not getting hugely far with it on account of Swift. Thinking of revisiting in the age of ChatGPT

@AndyAyrey @bobz44 I'm seriously interested in making this happen. idk what that entails (I've never touched swift dev) but there's clearly tons of demand for this and even if it ends up sherlocked it'd be a public service to the world to hasten the sherlocking process

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@AndyAyrey @bobz44 I gather it's a lot harder to do now that apple has set up various security things that make it harder to modify native functionality. seems to me that it might actually make sense to treat it as a window manager and bypass spaces / mission control altogether

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Apple "genius" I talked to was stupid defensive. Barely understood my issue then when I conveyed it he was like "well I mean you just have to wait" [1 sec] & I was like "I FUCKING BOUGHT APPLE SILICON SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT" & he was like "this isnt a performance issue tho"

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Replying to @s_r_constantin

@s_r_constantin I'm in

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Replying to Loopy @strangestloop ·

i once again overcame my fears of being seen as incompetent and solicited help on a work thing please clap

quoting @strangestloop: i communicated that i don't know how to do a work thing please clap

@strangestloop

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Retweeted @VividVoid_

Masculinity is in crisis (this time) because femininity is in crisis. There are many reasons for this, & one the worst is…

Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean lmao i mean. i understand that you are frustrated, but you were describing a feature of the OS that you dislike to a person whose job is to fix problems with your machine

@sonikudzu Yeah I eventually realized that and went home. There are hundreds of people complaining on the internet about this feature and surely 10-100× more who never bothered to speak up. I went in originally hoping that they'd have some clever workaround or setting, but internet says no

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@sonikudzu What makes me sad/enraged is the gaslighting energy of "there's no problem here". vs "oh jeez yeah that sounds really annoying" + either - but it's not my job to fix it - let's have a look together for solutions - I'll pass that on to Apple dev welcoming my pain

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Interesting series of polls with somewhat surprising responses! (She asks it for body, mind, soul, &++)

•Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

On a day-to-day basis, do you experience a sense of having a body?

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean yeah, Mac OS is pretty “this is how it works” about a lot of stuff, which i imagine feels maddening coming from an OS as flexible as Linux

@sonikudzu And I was prepared to get with the program but if they forget the "it works" part from "this is how it works" then it's really hard to do that I have accidentally closed the wrong window dozens of times in 2 days of trying to use the mac, from natural/obvious behavior.

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

@MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn I’m not sure how you ever replace the price system completely?

@eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn markets ≠ capitalism we could have much better systems for making it so people don't get to call more shots just because they have more money, and fewer rich-get-richer feedback loops (eg via Land Value Tax to stop rent-collecting at various scales)

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

@QiaochuYuan but they're so smol

@captain_mrs @QiaochuYuan lots of superstimuli are unrealistically far in a given direction because evolution never met something so far in that direction it had to code against Don Hoffman describes how the Aus beetles who hump beer bottles dgaf that the bottles are 10× the size of a mate. bigger=better

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Replying to lisatomic @lisatomic5 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Bunches app is pretty good

@lisatomic5 this? bunchapp.co

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Replying to Simon Sarris @simonsarris ·

@cybersygh reminder that technology is meant to serve you, it is a utility. If it is not serving you then you can command it away.

@simonsarris @cybersygh

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

the to-do list is a good servant, but a bad master

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Retweeted @ElodesNL

this is low-key an unbelievably good album. sensual, wild, and surprising... at times nearly transcendental. …

turning and turning in the widening gyre the falcon cannot hear the falconer

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean okay, so you may not wanna hear this, but i remember switching, and used to work at such stores, and have helped many others through this: the behaviors are less generally “natural” than they are conditioned expectations from your previous OS

@sonikudzu animations are fine! not fine is when the animation takes at least a second and until that second has completed (with very slow ease-out) I can't start using stuff in this place I'm going that would be like hitting cmd+t to make a new tab & having to wait 1s before typing url!

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@sonikudzu I would actually be fine keeping the animation but having it focus the new window as soon as the animation starts after I've initiated the switch, any further keystrokes should affect wherever I'm going just like hitting tab to change input fields

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Replying to Dan Wuori @DanWuori ·

How do young children learn to do challenging things? The same way we do: By having the freedom to practice - and fail - in low stakes settings. There’s so much to love about this video (and this terrific IG account, which is largely focused on Willow’s imaginary play): In

[video]

@DanWuori exactly that's why I encourage adults to

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Practice being weird when the stakes are low so you'll be ready when it counts.

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@sonikudzu and here's someone who sounds like he's been using mac for awhile (literally got tagged in by someone else who mentioned it) and agrees that this feature is just poorly implemented and should be avoided

David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I've yet to find something that isn't unimaginably infuriating, but one thing worth noting is that it becomes a lot less infuriating if you don't use many full screen windows, which OSX maddeningly mixes in with spaces in an almost indistinguishable way.

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@brundolfsmith @Malcolm_Ocean same, actually. i think this is what i was trying to get at, that different OS have different… orientations? workflows? different things they prioritize and allow. it can be incredibly frustrating when initially encountering friction between your habitual flow & a new system

@sonikudzu @brundolfsmith I really don't think ANYONE benefits by the fact that after triggering a workspace switch, hotkeys fire on the old workspace not the new I agree that the fact this hasn't been NOTICED is due to a difference in priority

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Replying to brundolf @brundolfsmith ·

@sonikudzu @Malcolm_Ocean @Malcolm_Ocean I think you'll find a comfort zone with time 🙂 Lmk if I can give you any more info/input to smooth the process!

@brundolfsmith @sonikudzu so I mean a current/former major workflow of mine involved a 2×2 grid of workspaces (on linux), each of which had a sub 2×2 grid composed of L/R halves of top/bottom screens ↖️ browser, testing webdev, main, @intendapp ↗️ IDE + terminal ↙️ music zero-guess switching how?

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Replying to brundolf @brundolfsmith ·

@sonikudzu @Malcolm_Ocean Well and beyond the priorities there are also just some pretty unique elements. Like grouping windows behind apps, the persistent menu bar, the Cmd key, etc. Certain linux desktops have adopted some of these, but they're really weird if you're used to windows or KDE

@brundolfsmith @sonikudzu I'm actually already bilingual in things like cmd key from 4mo spent interning at twitter a decade ago plus periodically practicing mac-speak over the years since! there are lots of things that aren't bugging me at all, that's part of why this is so aggravating

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@brundolfsmith @sonikudzu also like WHY DID SOMEONE GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO FORCE MOUSE & TRACKPAD TO SHARE "NATURAL SCROLL DIRECTION" toggle? they have separate toggle switches, why are they linked?!?!?!?!? you did extra effort to prevent a workflow obviously many people would want?!?! why1?!? 😭

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@brundolfsmith @sonikudzu anybody who is fucking around in those settings already knows what they're doing or can figure it the fuck out! that's not grandma shit!!!! scroll wheel and touch scroll are different UIs, let them behave differently! why is apple dying on such weird hills

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Replying to lisatomic @lisatomic5 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean ah yes that's what I was thinking of-- though I should clarify pretty good* with *given that it's all pretty bad (this app did let me set up and switch between more persistent working environments/contexts but I still don't love it. it's also slow)

@lisatomic5 I do really like the idea of different contexts/modes! lots of powerful workflow/mode management stuff possible there

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@ImSkyeTwit lots of little weird issues, some of which can be fixed with settings, but the big issue is that when you trigger a switch from one to another, there's a big slow animation & all keystrokes fire on the OLD workspace until the animation is done so can't work at speed of thought!

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

one question thats been on my mind all this time is, is there any meaningful difference between a blogpost and an essay? i think each person could have their own answer, but i had a personal 💡 moment yesterday thinking about it re: my own body of work…

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@visakanv there was a guy who had a series of essays on his site where each post had its own total graphic design. each page looked completely different — different fonts, colors, everything. I felt like somehow he had taken essays to a whole new level. felt wrong to call them blog posts

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@visakanv I think his whole site has been down for a long time, and I don't recall his name he might have been the founder of... svbtle... yes! dustin curtis! having trouble tracking down a url to put in archive.org tho hang on...

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@visakanv welp, looks like he blocked his site from being archived ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Replying to @VectorOfBasis

@VectorOfBasis yes, very indirectly working on alignment more generally, but focused on fractal human alignment, but afaict it generalizes at least somewhat and also helps with coordination towards different levels of ai alignment

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

my first act as king would be to repeal goodhart's law

@aleksil79 brilliant

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

are we goodharting? how would we know if we were goodharting? how can we measure the extent to which we're goodharting? how can we optimize for as little goodharting as possible? how can we ensure that our goodhart-minimization doesn't goodhart?

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Replying to Zach Tratar @zachtratar ·

lmao, lol even

@zachtratar bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha so good

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unless you have *external* reason to believe otherwise, assume any LLM you are talking to is approximately this self-aware it will answer questions about how it thinks, but its answers to those questions may have nothing to do with what's actually going on under the hood

Zach Tratar @zachtratar ·

lmao, lol even

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Replying to Mark @mwotton ·

@Malcolm_Ocean How coherent an explanation of how their brain works would you expect of the median human? Maybe you’d get less flip-flopping but I suspect it’d be equally bad.

@mwotton as bad as the screenshot? sure humans do lots of confabulation & rationalization of their thinking process, but at least if you ask us "how did you do this?" we can access a memory of what we were thinking at the time, and explicate that. LLMs don't have that even in principle!

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@mwotton it's not that people know "how their brain works", it's that they have some direct access to the experience of their mind in action. they can *accurately* report stuff like "I considered saying X, but I thought it would sound dumb so I said Y". LLMs do nothing like this.

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Replying to anansi 🌞 @s0ulDirect0r ·

metta but you’re sending orgasms instead of kindness

@s0ulDirect0r 4th line, here

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

May you lose yourself in play with innocent lil ones May you help repair a rift in your family May you have lifelong friendships May you come, hard, while looking in the eyes of god May you find a sense of accompaniment in solitude May you experience a vibrant life on your terms

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Replying to Johnson (Taiwan) @justavagrant_ ·

“He’s a sociopath, here’s what you do” vs “I perceive him as a sociopath, here’s what I feel” - one set of statements is indisputable, one is highly disputable (judgments)

@justavagrant_ "I don't trust he's not a sociopath" is my favorite one here, since it's stronger than saying how I perceive/think/feel people often do correct each others' perceptions or thoughts or feelings ("you're just projecting...") but

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

if you can't trust me, I'm not going to ask you to trust me if you can't trust me in a particular way, I'm not going to ask you to trust me in that way you can't trust what you can't trust

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Replying to Hazard @natural_hazard ·

double binds are a concept that's pretty central to how i think about power dynamics and how people control others by creating pressures for them to disintegrate and compartmentalize themselves the closest thing to a primer on the concept is Gregory Batesons og paper on it, but/

@natural_hazard @SarahAMcManus has a great page on Double Binds on her roam which includes a brilliant excerpt from an Anthony Wilden book, describing in detail the structure of how they are created and maintained roamresearch.com/#/app/HowToHum…

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@brundolfsmith @sonikudzu muahahaha very satisfied that bettertouchtool fixes this with one checkbox that is one of the only settings for "normal mouse" (as opposed to apple magic trackpad or whatever)

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Have you ever written a manifesto? (link below if you have it published anywhere)

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

thinking today that if a body is in fight, flight, or dissociate, then it’s actually not super possible to follow your yes…

Retweeted @WoohkaStylie

The body is not trying to tell “you” anything. The body IS you. The mind is not trying to tell “you“ anything. The mind…

Replying to Ari Trachtenberg @a_r_i_t ·

@CentristAllWay @joelwatsonfish A number of the tech companies have been wasting engineering time removing master-slave relationships ... so this is not a big step further.

@a_r_i_t @CentristAllWay @joelwatsonfish pretty different afaict master/slave is a disturbing (and I think somewhat misleading) metaphor whereas male/female connectors is benign and highlights the natural connection and interdependence between male/female shapes ☯️

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Retweeted @ciphergoth

Even if one is required to say “I passionately believe that water would certainly wet us”, the routine affirmation of one’s…

@eedobarganes although I think it is maybe focused on dignity at a somewhat different level, more about basic regard for each other, less about trying to solve structural problems (not that it's opposed to that, just that it's pointing at a shift in view as the first step)

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might be time to block a bunch of people who are on the periphery of what I'm interested in on here, as part of realizing the diaspora and making it harder to reify the idea that there is a single part of twitter that is dense enough that we know what we're talking about

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Replying to 💎ₕᵢgₕ🪞ₙFC🔍🆙 🚹🤝🚺🪽(egosyntonic productivity) @ForCognition ·

@kenthesimp fwiw I found your participation substantive and will be applying your practical shibboleth-detection-and-avoidance advice to the best of my ability in cases like the below and similar, across the political spectrum x.com/kenthesimp/sta…

@ForCognition @kenthesimp I found this whole thread via seeing someone poorly dunk on you with a mix of ad hominems and general incuriosity which was a great impetus to block that person and maybe some others involved so thanks for that

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might be time to block a bunch of people who are on the periphery of what I'm interested in on here, as part of realizing the diaspora and making it harder to maintain the fiction that there is a single part of twitter that is dense enough that we know what we're talking about

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Retweeted @MarkovMagnifico

my strongest belief is that prescriptivism is cringe and if you try to assert that a word has some specific meaning an…

Nah twitter should double down on both NOW *and* the deep history of QTable stuff that's on here and not on any other platforms Now+Context. That's the magic. Built-in @thlpr/@TwemexApp

Sar Haribhakti @sarthakgh ·

“Twitter’s best defense against Threads may be to retreat to that lower left corner: focus on what is happening now, from people you chose to follow. The problem, though, is that while this might win the battle against Threads, it means that Musk will have lost the war when it

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quoting @stratechery: Threads and the Social/Communications Map https://t.co/UF1sX97wcb Understanding Threads and its threat to Twitter means understanding the current landscape of social media.

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@mwotton At any rate, in my experience, when people feel safe they're shockingly good at recalling exactly why they did what they did

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@ProductHunt the placement of this promoted app is bullshit (in the technical sense of the term) put it *above* the "best alternatives" header it made me think the whole list was just random rather than actually relevant, before realizing it was promoted

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type of guy who thinks that this form of conditional love will cause people be wise, good, and kind, rather than causing goodharting and other messes t.co/yZb7TPkwhG

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Retweeted @RomeoStevens76

tfw each open tab is a summary of something that could overwhelm all other considerations over the next decade.

Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

Warfare was about dirt when we were food limited Warfare was about people when we were labor limited Warfare is about ideology while we are coordination limited Warfare will be about _____ when we are compute limited

@RomeoStevens76 attention sensemaking sanity insight is what came to mind

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Retweeted @KatjaGrace

I wrote an article in Time! I hear people say AI is an arms race, and so parties ought to speed even at risk of human exti…

Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

'I' 'pay-attention-to' 'my' 'breath' feels notably worse than 'what's it like for attention to be breath shaped?'

@RomeoStevens76 reminds me of EA Global 2017 when I found myself greeting old friends not with "how've you been?" or whatever but something more like "so, what's Romeo-flavored these days?" did a great job of getting them out of their usual networking/conversing scripts

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

Actually useful

@RomeoStevens76 reminds me of Michael Levin's work, and this quote I think you'll appreciate: > But the Physarum [slime mold] scenario is a kind of Prisoners’ Dilemma game where the number of players isn’t constant. Not only can you cooperate or defect, but you could also split and merge. How…

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Replying to Oceane Kerdemelidis @saltwatercolour ·

Men, I love you, but you have homework. Write this sentence 500x women are born; men are made women are born; men are made women are born; men are made women are born; men are made women are born; men are made women are born; men are made women are born; men are made

@saltwatercolour are you out here tryna make more of these guys?

𝖜𝖔𝖒𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍𝖔𝖚𝖙 𝖆 𝖈𝖆𝖚𝖘𝖊 @goblinodds ·

type of guy who has to work relentlessly, brutally hard to prove to themselves that they're worthy of love any time they meet someone who isn't continuously pushing themselves they act disgusted and angry, cant let it go, bc they're envious and afraid

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flowing together

🌱 John Ash 🌳 @speakerjohnash ·

A confluencer varies greatly from a traditional leader. While a leader often directs and instructs, a confluencer orchestrates harmony among varying voices and ideas. They don't impose their own beliefs or dictate the course of action. Instead, a confluencer channels the

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a form of music that's really satisfying to listen to while in a flow state and really annoying otherwise, creating a feedback loop that helps people notice what pops them out of flow

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while getting set up on my new mac I noticed a funny sense of shame when I opened the terminal introspected for a moment and apparently my bodymind apparently thinks that using a white terminal window is low-status in *precisely* the same way as tighty-whities are

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Replying to steven 🔜 cascade camp Aug 7-10 @_StevenFan ·

Announcing "i don't wana"'s counterpart group chat, "Doing it Now". Get It Done-Reply to be added.

quoting @_StevenFan: who wants in to the "i don't wana" group chat for making spontaneous infantile denials of responsibility?

@_StevenFan curious to join both

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Replying to la fête @asemic_horizon ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Honestly there’s a tiered hierarchy to tpot — A-listers etc and D-listers just want to get their thing out there and marginally connected to the movement. Because we suck either at content or promotion. So lots of reply game like “my weird approach is so relevant to this convo”.

@asemic_horizon I mean when it is so relevant its so good tho that's the magic

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new barber paradox just dropped twitter.com/elizamondegree…

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roughly my vibe:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what I want to see more of: - doing stuff - learning in public - global consciousness - meta, coordination - attention, awareness - 10y+ visions things that feel like clutter to me atm: - things I'd only care about via knowing the people - ingroup/tpot/tcot - blockchain minutiae

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I'm stoked to be set up enough again to do some focused work! come cowork with me in the Feral Free Agents room cc @CarnunMP @SunnyDisposish1 @visakanv @vlct0rs_tw1tter @__drewface intend.do/room/feral

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Replying to vishrut @venividivishi ·

@Malcolm_Ocean root of the loom

@venividivishi nice

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Replying to @jasonjdelaney

@jasonjdelaney @visakanv yeah that's a mac/pc thing

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Replying to @tea_snail

@tea_snail @visakanv you're probably on windows/linux? try ctrl+left/right for caret-moving while typing

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Replying to Jay Vander 😎 @JayVander_ ·

@visakanv I think the results say something about your audience, surprised me

@jerrevdh @visakanv yeah I was also very impressed. I'm guessing it's <10% of general population (of let's say people who have typed more than 500 words/day in the last week)

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@iquanyins yes I have done so now and it's a huge relief

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Retweeted @visakanv

do you use alt-left/right and command-left/right to manipulate your cursor when typing? (if some other hotkey combo, ctrl+l…

Thread · Writing four versions of a rebrand announcement email · 8 of 9 tweets

over a month after the complice.co->intend.do rebrand, I finally sent out the newsletter to all the past signups announcing the change! I wrote 4 different versions, addressed to different sub-categories of people, which was honestly kinda easier than writing one

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there were 150 people who had made an account since the rebrand, so they need the opposite version of the news I emphasized the listening-to-myself vibe of the decision-making process on the name

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600 other recently-active folks who may already be aware of the name-change, especially since it's been up for awhile similar for them, just a different intro the reason I talk about the decision-making dimension is that I'm aiming to have the email itself be useful, app-aside

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860 people who have ever had a paid subscription, so it's more likely to be a meaningful bit of news for them that "Complice" has been renamed a more eye-catching subject line would probably have been something like "the last "Complice" features newsletter" but oh well

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then 6000 ppl who made an account at some point but haven't ever paid some may not have tried it at all ...and I own that—that they don't, by default, give a fuck about my app rebrand—and focus on offering them a taste of the app's whole deal, rather than talking about my story

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I'm not sure why I felt like sharing all of these emails on twitter but sometimes you just put the garage door up without a plan in an era of AI-based writing, I'm deliberately leaning more into a personal, thoughtful, human voice

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I do really like having contextual customizations though, like being able to say "an app you signed up for $​SIGNUP_AGO and last used $​USAGE_AGO" whenever I get app update emails, I'm like "who were these guys again??" and so I try to put myself in those shoes to write these

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after a long delay (due to travel and a busted computer) it was a helpful showtime to have the time pressure of wanting to mention the Goal-Crafting Intensives in the footer of each of the emails (they're in 2-3 days!) ↳ intend.do/event/gci?tw=m…

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Replying to Brian Krassenstein @krassenstein ·

I literally didn't believe I was hearing this. Rep. Eli Crane just referred to African American service members as "Colored People". Eli Crane: “My amendment has nothing to do with whether or not colored people or black people or anybody can serve.” What is this the 1950's or

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@krassenstein referring to "white people" or "people of color", however you do it, is the root of racism, as far as I can tell these concepts need to exist in order to deconstruct them, but when actually talking about people we should say what we mean, and racial categories are for racism

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@krassenstein in some contexts the actual issue at hand is class, so talk about class other times it's actually about language (dyk "Hispanic" isn't a race?) in yet others it's "descendents of slaves", or "descendents of colonists" OR "recent immigrants (regardless of origin)"

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Thread · Writing four versions of a rebrand announcement email · 1 of 9 tweets

I like what @m_ashcroft says here, but I also feel like in the context of an email that IS getting slightly personalized based on the user's app data, it kinda does make sense to use their name what do you think?

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

each time I get a newsletter or marketing email that opens with "Hey Michael", or similar, I realise I recoil a little bit I know the email is going to lots of people and I'm happy to receive it, because I signed up to it but the personalisation feels kinda manipulative

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skin tones on emoji are racist gifs are anti-racist send tweet

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Replying to Arbutus Tree @aphercotropist ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I think I was supposed to get this version of the email but something broke? 😅

@aphercotropist haha yeah something broke, but actually for every condition OTHER than that one (forgot a return statement in condition where no CHANGES_SINCE to replace) but it looks like your account ended up in the "never subscribed" condition, based on the subject. DM me the username?

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Replying to @DaveCBeck

@DaveCBeck @jonnym1ller huh, say more? I would imagine those might be other kinds of flow, just along axes hard to name

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Replying to prerat @prerat ·

@nosilverv the joke is that tanha looks like tanh (hyperbolic tangent), which became much less popular as a neural network activation function when people got better results with ReLU (rectified linear unit)

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@prerationalist @nosilverv lol I googled tanha and relu and only found ML results and I was like "he must mean something else" but then turns out nope

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

Noticing that with MTG I enjoy drafting more than playing (and winning). Does this mean I’m a cuck?

@nosilverv according to this definition it's kind of the opposite of cucked

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

increasingly appreciating "cucked" as meaning "you unwittingly let someone else swap their values/perceptions/models in instead of yours"

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Replying to Ben Landau-Taylor @benlandautaylor ·

missionlocal.org/2023/07/teache… Fourteen million dollars for a payroll system that's worse and more expensive than a 1950s-ass room full of green-visored accountants. Shit like this makes me wonder about all the "computers have led to massive efficiency gains in administration" claims.

@benlandautaylor who's responsible? who's accountable? who's benefitting?

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

the implicit maps that get smuggled in are sloppier and slipperier and stickier the parts don’t actually match up with each other, they’re too squishy to be actually argued against or re-shaped, they’re hard to point out to people holding them, & thus harder to self-examine

@the_wilderless I really like how explicit (yet kinda vague) this is

🎃 Mark 👻 🟡⚪️🟣⚫️ @meditationstuff ·

I am starting to strongly suspect that a good meditation system ultimately turns you into a horny extrovert with a lot of optionality around “need for cognition.” If your meditation system does not turn you into a horny extrovert possibly return it to the store and get a new one.

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Replying to maybe gray @maybegray ·

can someone remind me what the deeper differences between aesthetics and ethics are again? do those exist?

@maybegray

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

for all my etymology geeks out there consider the two meanings of fair: beautiful, & just

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@Meaningness hey @Morphenius what do you think this might have to do with gnosis and math?

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up high down low too slow

J0eCool @CountJ0ecool ·

Everyone wants to meet their Higher Self Fewer seem interested in meeting their Lower Self

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@dukkhafactory yep this is why I emphasize a focus on honoring your own distrust

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@visakanv mostly just gonna say my usual thing which is to focus on nurturing people's self-trust and encouraging them to trust what they trust and distrust what they distrust, and respect others' doing so if people can dialogue from there, they don't need a leader/arbiter!

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"parts-based noting" meditation in each arising, note either "part" or "whole" 🧩 part: any aspect of experience that is not totally okay with the present moment 🌐 whole: the present moment in all of its wholeness

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Replying to Jake Orthwein @JakeOrthwein ·

Has anyone done multi-day, intensive retreat practice of something like IFS or IPF? Is there any reason to think it wouldn’t be just as much of an accelerant as doing meditation that way?

@JakeOrthwein sort of, and yes. I did a one-week bioemotive retreat at MAPLE, that also included meditation and chanting and circling. a friend said he did a retreat with Janusz Welin that featured "parts-based noting"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"parts-based noting" meditation in each arising, note either "part" or "whole" 🧩 part: any aspect of experience that is not totally okay with the present moment 🌐 whole: the present moment in all of its wholeness

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@visakanv I was thinking of some of your recent writings on your writing process as I wrote this

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icymi, we're zerg on the inside

Slava Bobrov @slava__bobrov ·

Human heart from the inside Credit: SciePro

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

oh yea this is a better word choice. do we get to choose what we’re devoted to? I don’t know. it doesn’t feel like it. not exactly. it’s complicated. feels like a lifetime is not enough time to spend figuring it out

quoting @jackfriks2: @visakanv devotion is a great word or way of putting *discipline with heart*

@visakanv discipline = studentness, following orders diligence = attentiveness, careful selecting devotion = reverentness, sacred vow (by their etymologies)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@__drewface @Malcolm_Ocean meme-crafting intensive wen

@visakanv @__drewface @RomeoStevens76 can u train us

RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

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Replying to West Coast Kenny @kenthecowboy_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @ForCognition I would actually recommend you not block. I started the fight, it wouldn't sit right with me if others were shunned for responding to me. Ofc I can't tell you what to do, just recommending mercy in this case

@kenthesimp @ForCognition it wasn't based on just the replies to you; I scoped out their other tweets a bit but also I don't see blocking as an act of punishment (tho my tweets are pretty great) but more as a firmer form of curation/scene-cultivation than who I follow

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Replying to Arvind Venkataramani is letting go of conditioning @_arvind ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I’m fascinated by the possibility that you can architect paradigm-breaking scenes. What does it take? How do you prevent it reifying into its own paradigm staleness? Who should you bring into the scene?

@_arvind I'm not sure but probably you start with people who in some sense are already living their own paradigm, so that that's the basic vibe, rather than a bunch of people who are all sharing someone else's paradigm (especially if that someone is dead) malcolmocean.com/2022/10/open-l…

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@_arvind (I linked that blog post because I talk in there about my own shift to having my own paradigm and how that related to the person whose paradigm I was previously trying to use)

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seems like a question worth amplifying cc @RichDecibels @visakanv

Arvind Venkataramani is letting go of conditioning @_arvind ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I’m fascinated by the possibility that you can architect paradigm-breaking scenes. What does it take? How do you prevent it reifying into its own paradigm staleness? Who should you bring into the scene?

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Replying to Johnson (Taiwan) @justavagrant_ ·

@FilmerJarred @JoachimBrackx @David_Hartsough @MrSimmoSimpson @sokindling @derekwcheng @yash_tek @RichDecibels @Leandro8209 @groundedsage @nat_sharpe_ @matt__yao @p_millerd @Malcolm_Ocean @marcantoinefon @gptbrooke @heynibras @_brentbaum @michalkorzonek @jeremybonney @wholebodyprayer Also curious what y’all might think about this x.com/justavagrant_/…

@justavagrant_ cool diagram. personally I'm very done with nomading and I want a stable homebase once I have one I could imagine being elsewhere for a couple months of the year though, and that being a good rhythm

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Replying to The Artist fka: 𝓶𝔂𝓬𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓾𝓶 𝓶𝓪𝓰𝓮 {❤️‍🔥} @myceliummage ·

@Morphenius whats the connection between 3s, which i usually view as achievement oriented, and fate? and why does that connect to the dissolving the self other barrier you mention below

@myceliummage @Morphenius I had an insight about this once and it was something like... my 3 structure (I am very 7 but I have a lot of 3) had a sense of needing to achieve something in order to have made a difference, but then I realized that simply by existing I was already making a difference

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@myceliummage @Morphenius like I had changed so many peoples' lives already just by knowing them, by being their friend (or kid or grandkid). I didn't need to DO SOMETHING, I could just exist and be me.

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Replying to Christopher Chevalier @cptnjamescook ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Bookmarking! I personally don't. For me a manifesto requires that you have a unique take on a problem (unique = can't just point to someone else's) and/or a unique take on what should be done about. While I struggle to convince myself it is premature to try to convince others

@cptnjamescook do you have a plausibly-unique take on a problem even if you don't think it's actually adequate? could be worth writing that up even just to understand it better and get help refining it!

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Replying to Michael Smith @Morphenius ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Well gosh, I have an obvious candidate, though it's in dire need of a rewrite. docs.google.com/document/d/1yE…

@Morphenius yes and yes!

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

> it will answer questions about how it thinks, but its answers to those questions may have nothing to do with what's actually going on under the hood

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: unless you have *external* reason to believe otherwise, assume any LLM you are talking to is approximately this self-aware it will answer questions about how it thinks, but its answers to those questions may have nothing to do with what's actually going on under the hood

@visakanv look humans are *sometimes* like this but they're not *always* like this

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@mwotton it's not that people know "how their brain works", it's that they have some direct access to the experience of their mind in action. they can *accurately* report stuff like "I considered saying X, but I thought it would sound dumb so I said Y". LLMs do nothing like this.

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Replying to Mark @mwotton ·

@Malcolm_Ocean And if you explicitly ask the LLM to detail a chain of thought, it will not only be able to do it, but will also frequently get better results. The question of whether that’s “real reflection” is one for the philosophers.

@mwotton it can only do it *while* thinking it through though if you ask it retrospectively how it got an answer, it will give bullshit (unless someone specifically RLHF'd it to say what truth it can give which is "I used a random seed and chose high-logprob words")

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@visakanv also people can introspect with remarkable detail and clarity in sufficiently safe contexts (which are rare) but it'll involve nonsensical-from-the-outside answers which is why people usually can't seem to

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@mwotton At any rate, in my experience, when people feel safe they're shockingly good at recalling exactly why they did what they did

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my attempt to distill the intuitions that point towards LVT (land value tax) into a tweet, without actually saying LVT or even proposing a solution

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what does it mean to own territory? for wolves, it means you can protect it 🐺 same for humans, initially 🏹 then it meant getting others to protect it for you 👑 now it means the government protects it for you 👮 for what fee? almost nothing 💸 thus landownership = arbitrage

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Replying to Emmett Shear @eshear ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn I’m not sure what “capitalism” means if not “usage of the price system”?

@eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn hmm. I have intuitions for it but not sure how to name them. we might as "as opposed to what"

Eliezer Yudkowsky ⏹️ @ESYudkowsky ·

There is no agreed-upon meaning of the word "capitalism", and nowadays you should not trust anyone who uses the *word itself*; they are not trying to help you think clearly. Knowledgeable helpful people will talk about "market prices" or use other words that mean things.

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@eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn one way I would put it is capitalism can be seen as a powerful ideology saying that everything should be done with markets (which leads to the undervaluing of helping one's friends and family, raising one's own kids, activities that don't involve money)

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@eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn anyway, your tweet also made me notice a neat way to frame LVT in terms of being pro-capitalism is government charging market prices for their role protecting your land from other people doing stuff with it? nope, they're subsidizing it ABSURDLY

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

what does it mean to own territory? for wolves, it means you can protect it 🐺 same for humans, initially 🏹 then it meant getting others to protect it for you 👑 now it means the government protects it for you 👮 for what fee? almost nothing 💸 thus landownership = arbitrage

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@eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn this is not AS unethical, but it's a structurally-similar form of institutionally-supported inequality-endorsement as legal chattel slavery where the government would, at zero cost to slaveowners, legally step in to return runaway slaves

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Replying to Daniel Tabakman @DanielTabakman ·

@RatOrthodox @Malcolm_Ocean this seems relevant to your work

@DanielTabakman @RatOrthodox haha this is a form of coercive threat-based trust & intimacy, with so many issues *literally* can't speedrun non-naive collaborative trust, information-theoretically afaict. although definitely way faster methods than others

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@uberstuber @Malcolm_Ocean yes and no! supposed to have a “we can get this worked out” tone, but that person actually went against training a bit in what they actually said/did about Malcolm’s issue it doesn’t feel good to anyone to have your frustration treated as immaterial, not supposed to do that

@sonikudzu @uberstuber I mean probably if you're supposed to give a "no problem" vibe, in situations where you can work it out this will result in a sense of confident handledness, and in situations where actually there is no adequate solution apple can offer, it will result in gaslighting

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@DRMacIver @Malcolm_Ocean y’all definitely have me thinking about the wider world of possibilities! can definitely think of some areas i would change if i could, especially for better no-look nav

@sonikudzu @DRMacIver I have a whole rant about how important no-look no-wait systems are in general (which is related to how it's taken so long for voice/gesture interfaces to take on, and why pros tend to disprefer them) malcolmocean.com/2015/12/interf…

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @brundolfsmith they put bumpers on the whole thing, like baby bowling

@sonikudzu @brundolfsmith okay but look it wouldn't have taken more than another few minutes of development to have an option that appears if you go back and forth between the two and check one then uncheck the other to have it trigger "do you want to unlink these?" but ig powerusers just all use tools

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Replying to Andrew Lynch @andrewglynch ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is basically mine

quoting @andrewglynch: I reject type-A ambition. I don't want to work for Goldman. I reject hustle culture. I don't want multiple side gigs. I also reject digital nomadism, indie-hacking, anti-work, FAT FIRE, Coast FIRE, SEO-passive-income, and any other attempt to reduce work to a three word label

@andrewglynch nice, kind of a work-style manifesto

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Replying to yabanjin @_yabanjin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i'm sorry, this is a limit of my macos competencies for now my 2 hypotheses are - still an os bug for an update that haven't yet popped a notification about being available for installation - some pre-installed service specific for the country you bought mac in

@gene_minkov I think that half of the bug is a function of brave browser in particular other apps do transfer focus AFTER waiting the full 1 second animation. brave sometimes (but not always!) fails

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean interesting, ive read the first half of this hundreds of times but im not sure ive ever read the sentence that follows! 😮

@visakanv common of many quotes! here's one example of a full observation Gandhi made that got shortened (and made imperative!) as "be the change you wish to see" > "We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we…

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hey @Morphenius I think the 2nd half of this quote is about the co-gnosis problem (the trouble the occurs when two people who have a kind of self-authored "I can tell for myself" knowing come in contact and can't figure out how to relate where their knowings seem to contradict)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@visakanv > The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. Even those of the intelligent who believe that they have a nostrum are too individualistic to combine with other intelligent men from whom they…

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tiny challenge: think of a favorite quote of yours and see if you can find the larger context that it's an excerpt from (usually pretty easy with the internet)

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean interesting, ive read the first half of this hundreds of times but im not sure ive ever read the sentence that follows! 😮

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania it's in my top ~dozen fav books probably. that passage is one I've quoted to many people

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Replying to Nathan⒦ @nathan_k ·

@Malcolm_Ocean 🤔 🔖

@nathan_k feel free to ask if you have questions about it! (although maybe I've seen you there before? not sure)

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Replying to la fête @asemic_horizon ·

@Malcolm_Ocean

@asemic_horizon nice. I like how you put it. clear wisdom and also falls apart, but yeah I like the direct rejection of puritanism

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Replying to @diviaprocessing

@diviaprocessing yeah, gq... feels kinda pharma-based, which I'm not into hmm honestly part of it is my inner @visakanv, who laughed at "pilled" as being such an american way of phrasing something at one point

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

@gwyns @Malcolm_Ocean Listen to a recent podcast with @dr_mcgilchrist

@jonnym1ller @gwyns @dr_mcgilchrist this classic one on @metalearn_ is my go-to intro resource metalearn.net/podcasts/ml41-…

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean imo the LH/RH model is a bit in error I think, and there are actually "three hemispheres" partly because of recursion and partly because the more embodied parts of the nervous system evolved much earlier, whereas the right hemisphere is more "modern creative brain"

@slimepriestess okay I'm gonna need to unpack that. it's all very relevant to my interests I'm familiar with the triune brain breakdown as well and also find it useful, although of course the older brain parts have still been evolving the whole time in parallel with the new ones

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@slimepriestess also have you read/heard mcgilchrist's model or are you responded to the old debunked hemispheres model?

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Replying to @abhayance

@abhayance mmmm, mhm. one thing I'm a bit confused about is the difference between some of the more recent changes that McGilchrist is mostly on about, and whatever much earlier shift might have been responsible for agriculture & the axial age, if @AndrewCutler13 (EToC/snakes) is at all apt

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Replying to SidewaysKoyote @sidewayskoyote ·

@Malcolm_Ocean it had plen ty of bronze age and iron age cults, tho

@sidewayskoyote ahh hm I guess it was probably a means of control / attempt to reunify with god following the basic separation/self-consciousness/Fall vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @brundolfsmith basically. their UI priorities seem to rest squarely on the needs of The Most Average User Possible, but building some of the best hardware in the world for pros, and letting them make whatever customizations their workflows require kinda inverse of windows, lmao

@sonikudzu @brundolfsmith oh noooo apple is averagerianist (the idea that an average user exists is fallacious)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@onnlucky @thehandbehindt1 @sentientist [Source of latter claim: book called The End of Average, whose main point is "just because you can calculate an average for a population, doesn't mean there's even a single member of the population that meaningfully resembles that average"] (applies to bodies, brains, &+)

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv @__drewface It basically means leveraging verbal reasoning, which otherwise occupies itself with papanca, to view reality as entirely composed of mad libs

@RomeoStevens76 @visakanv @__drewface can you give me pith instructions on working with panpanca? (either specifically for converting to schematic thinking / mad libs, or just in general)

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF seems more like *slavery* is arbitrage, because it lets someone own more than one body, and creates a market for bodies whereas if everybody owns their own body and there's no market, then there's no arbitrage opportunity

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I'm familiar with Mcgilchrist, this is sort of building on that notion further. It's also not exactly the Id/Ego/Superego model though, more like Id/creative_self/analytic_self.

@slimepriestess oh interesting, I hadn't thought of triune brain mapping onto id/ego/superego, more like instincts/emotions/thoughts I've been getting gung-ho lately about something vaguely id/ego/superego-like after reading The Snake Cult of Consciousness vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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Replying to orca apologist @sonikudzu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @brundolfsmith agreed! when it comes to specifics and their combinations, everyone is different maybe apple’s focus is more accurately described as “most common use cases”? at any rate, most of their users don’t seem to notice things like “focus lags behind the animation”

@sonikudzu @brundolfsmith I suspect way more users experience it than they think, they just either - don't consciously notice (as you say) - blame themselves and then they get operant conditioned into never experiencing the problem blog.regehr.org/archives/861

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean And another:

@Meaningness I like this, although it doesn't get at what I'm actually saying as far as I can tell, I have had periods of minutes-hours of conversation in something ecstatically resembling the spontaneous action mode, but doing so by repressing other parts

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Replying to Charlie Awbery @_awbery_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean That’s just to say that there’s another half page to come and some of the wording is going to change- and that may help clarify the approach some more

@_awbery_ oh oops haha! we'll see

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This is funny... right around the time you were writing that, I was writing this:

@Meaningness system 1 / system 2 are definitely different axes than the brain hemispheres see this tweet and the linked LW comment:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Jeanvaljean689 @ablueaeshna @brandontoner System 1 as in "automatic processing done by the brain", which is in both hemispheres. You walk into a room: What's the headcount? LH immediately answers "5" What's the vibe? RH immediately answers "chill" Both S1, inasmuch as that model holds at all: lesswrong.com/posts/HbXXd2gi…

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@Meaningness funny coincidence though! fwiw theories/mechanisms might obstruct for some people but for me so far McGilchrist's has been quite empowering for me (tho I need to be careful not to let it put me in a mode of "I already know")

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@slimepriestess (this this model) the psy-op has a grain of truth, in that there really was a moment when we fell out of heaven, experientially but then the idea that this other guy gets to tell you what to do & if you do what he says you'll get let back into heaven? 🧐

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

problem..... SOLUTION you agree there's a PROBLEM, right? so you'd better get behind my SOLUTION

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Replying to Arielle @anal0gfutures ·

@Malcolm_Ocean The argument is that it wasn't always so psychologically loopy. "Being strong, rich and handsome rocks. Hercules, Jason and Apollo are good. Ugly, poor, smelly people are bad." Pure confidence without insecurity. It's not of our time, but it's real (or at least was, once).

@arielleplus ahhh, that makes sense yeah, basically a philosophy somehow has to account for someone's experience, and assuming it is trying to account for someone having been screwed over and ALSO goodness being possible, it'll tend to be a reaction to that but if it doesn't have to, yeah

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Retweeted @MattPirkowski

This impedance mismatch b/w entropy-maximizing mechanisms driving the complexity of urban superorganisms and our increas…

Replying to Matthew Pirkowski @MattPirkowski ·

Like the mitochondrial ancestor ingested then preserved for its usefully deterministic functions––ultimately stripped of the functions and associated DNA perceived as 'use-less'––the individual will be eventually stripped of its agency in relation to superorganismic function.

@MattPirkowski there are types of superorganism about which this is true, and to some extent we've been inhabiting them for 10k years, with increasing intensity but there are other superorganisms that exalt and respect individuality, and we can (and naturally want to) support those emerging

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@MattPirkowski this tweet is essentially about recognizing that you are getting coopted and spitting out the hook

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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Replying to Victor - we/acc 🤝 @vlct0rs_tw1tter ·

@MattPirkowski I don’t know if this is welcome but @Malcolm_Ocean seems to have a sense of direction for what’s possible as far as human capacity for communal flow, which is relevant to the extent that it maps to communal consciousness.

@vlct0rs_tw1tter @MattPirkowski thanks for the tag, yeah! I've been watching Matt feel into similar questions Matt, looks like you're also a scholar in the Evolution of Consciousness field. curious what your main research Qs are

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Malcolm, explain the evolution of consciousness right the fuck meow, in one breath, standing on one foot (reply below if you see your work (or play!) as being within this field, whether research or application!) twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what’s the link to the snake/apple ritual thing?

@AskYatharth vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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Replying to Victor - we/acc 🤝 @vlct0rs_tw1tter ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I don’t have much to contribute to the discourse right now, but if you have not found Brett Anderson’s work you may find it useful. Here’s a link to the first of two videos on consciousness within his series: Intimations of a new worldview. youtu.be/sofEWuG5lo4

@vlct0rs_tw1tter on my radar but hadn't saved it to my list of sources to potentially look at at some point related to EvConch

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I started a document called Questions I Have About the Evolution of Consciousness which so far only has a couple questions in it (tho I have lots) but already contains enough Sources (texts etc) that it could make a curriculum. now plotting re Oceanic College cc @AskYatharth

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actually an even better challenge: think of a quote you find really ANNOYING, and see if you can find the larger context that it's an excerpt from

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

tiny challenge: think of a favorite quote of yours and see if you can find the larger context that it's an excerpt from (usually pretty easy with the internet) twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean My current model of consciousness doesn't really have anything resembling a superego in the traditional sense, although you can point to certain structures and go "yeah that's something that would get called a superego in some contexts"

@slimepriestess the thing I'm calling "superego" here maps onto memeplexes/egregores/social expectations, which does seem like a layer of human mind systems they are now very numerous and in a state of high competition for host control

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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the classic "reference the other thread while having two parallel conversations with the same person on twitter" move

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean And under this model the cascade outward from recursion in language and thought would tip the balance of the native "mind triune" into a state where the left hemisphere became dominant in most humans, to the point of unbalancing the decision-making process into the "superego"

@slimepriestess haha so in your model it's sorta like - LH cortex etc = analytic - RH cortex etc = creative - hindbrain+limbic = id ?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the classic "reference the other thread while having two parallel conversations with the same person on twitter" move

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@slimepriestess it seems to me like the RH and LH each handle different dimensions of navigating social expectations, but the ones that allow commands or rules are largely LH-based (RH handles vibe stuff, dancing, physical coordination on a task by anticipating others' moves)

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@slimepriestess but I guess conventionally "superego" refers to more of the like... internalized verbal instructions etc

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Replying to Michael Smith @Morphenius ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv Well. That does change the meaning! Reminds me of Nietzsche's "God is dead" thing: >…And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? […] who will wipe this blood off us? […] Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Big dif.

@Morphenius @visakanv wow damn yeah, great reminder

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Replying to Sam Andrews @_samand_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I found this thread very interesting! Been loving using Intend this year. Thinking of making a video about my experience using it.

@_samand_ I'd love to see it! and it would probably be meaningful to others who are curious too :)

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF in that sense, yeah, the slaveowners were themselves subjected to the larger power of the state, that required them to operate as they did and while power is power, the framing of "ownership" comes not from God but from man

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Yes, sorry to be unclear, the point was that speculating about the mechanisms of that particular practice is probably unhelpful; I used S1/S2 as an example before seeing your interpretation in terms of hemispheres.

@Meaningness totally yeah, not intending to imply you were equivocating them specifically, this is just one of my wrong-on-the-internet + hey-check-out-this-neat-thing talking points haha 😅

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean BH generates and is the phenomenal universe RH generates counterfactual simulations, eg: different time slices, possible scenarios, creativity, inner eye, etc LH analyzes the other two, generating an abstract platonic model that allows long range pathfinding

@slimepriestess what is BH? also I think McGilchrist would be pretty insistent that the LH/RH have their own phenomenal universes that are based on the different ways of attending to the world they embody

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Intro thread to Iain McGilchrist's work, based on his mini-book Ways of Attending: How our divided brain constructs the world. "Attention is not just receptive, but actively creative of the world we inhabit. How we attend makes all the difference to the world we experience."

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Replying to jessicat @jessi_cata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i'm speaking in a dualist ontology of course, depravity is a commitment to moral nonduality as seen from a dualist perspective, the inability to even take a position on whether one agrees to invert one's own values

@jessi_cata there are definitely nondual approaches to values that don't involve inverting them beyond that, I'm not really sure what you mean here and in general not really sure we're using any of these words the same way 🤔 ...I'd be down to hear you try to say this a different way

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Replying to Christopher Chevalier @cptnjamescook ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Yes I think so...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@cptnjamescook maybe start with trying to lay out just a complete 10-minute version of it, a la:

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

in the interest of scenius-building I now issue an open challenge to all my mutuals to QT this tweet with "<name>, explain <your thing> right fckn now, in one breath, standing on one foot" in a 1-page screenshot

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@cptnjamescook if you want to go longer that's fine, but the point is not to get caught up in trying to writing the canonical version

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Thread · Repeating and remixing across threads, blog posts, and canonical pages · 1 of 20 tweets

I've found this prompt (which is best interpreted, in the context of the examples @visakanv gives, as "write one page about the topic without stopping or much editing") to be a helpful way to sidestep the perfectionist/canonist energy reason y not perfect

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

in the interest of scenius-building I now issue an open challenge to all my mutuals to QT this tweet with "<name>, explain <your thing> right fckn now, in one breath, standing on one foot" in a 1-page screenshot

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lol somehow twitter changed the DM moderation rules in such a way that I suddenly had a bunch of spam DMs from the last 8mo all show up in my "message requests" anybody else get this?

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Replying to Golden @Alcuev ·

@Aella_Girl @eigenrobot the point of the term "bittersweet" is that there are both positive and negative elements to the experience that makes it ambiguous if you disregard the bitter aspect you are only left with the illusion of sweetness. I believe eigen is trying to highlight this bias

@Alcuev @Aella_Girl @eigenrobot and I think you're also trying to get eigen to say that it's "bad" when it's more that he's just saying "it's powerful in ways that are hard to name and pretending that it isn't is going to result in some people getting affected in ways they may later go "wtf" about"

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@Alcuev @Aella_Girl @eigenrobot he didn't say sex is bad, he said it's not safe and I think he meant that in a sort of infohazard-type way or again, like psychedelics, that it would give someone an experience that would be hard to integrate

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@Alcuev @Aella_Girl @eigenrobot since naive "sex-positive" framings implicitly deny this obvious-to-some-ppl fact, they encourage people to whom the fact is obvious to seek out frames that don't deny it which may involve adopting other dumb shit those frames say ("sex is [always] bad")

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How people end up with crazy (to you) ontologies: they have some experiences they don't know how to make sense of and a crazy ontology comes along and says "hey look here's how it makes sense" and it is legit kinda helpful (but then obscures other things obvious to you)

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF I'm not saying that "ownership" is an inappropriate word for it, I'm saying that it's a frame, and you're free to choose a different one anyone is free to choose their own frame even if someone else hurts or ends them for doing so

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@HephaistosF this is what Frankl realized in the camps; someone can own your body but they can't own your soul ...unless you let them, I guess. but the letting is never permanent even though it can be sticky/habitual

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me: ...then the 1mo baby was stirring a bit in my arms, so I expanded my ego boundary to include it, and it relaxed ☺️ gf: 😮😍 what prompted you to DO that? me: I mean, the baby wasn't experiencing us as separate beings, and I wasn't about to argue with it on that point 😉

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@jessi_cata I think part of the talking past: by "original sin" I meant Eve's eating the apple, not the "born into" part it seems to me that kids these days are not born into dualism but learn it at a very young age via parents & society enacting separateness vs

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

me: ...then the 1mo baby was stirring a bit in my arms, so I expanded my ego boundary to include it, and it relaxed ☺️ gf: 😮😍 what prompted you to DO that? me: I mean, the baby wasn't experiencing us as separate beings, and I wasn't about to argue with it on that point 😉

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Replying to RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv @__drewface I'm not sure, my mind has been doing weird al esque versions of pop songs inside my head since I was a kid, so maybe it's innate?

@RomeoStevens76 @visakanv @__drewface haha no I get that too haha also you can totally drill this sort of thing, like @CloneOfSnow probably did (I'm guessing with a spreadsheet)

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF that may be so you still matter to you, right now (I know it hurts)

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Replying to Tom (sometimes Lucky Victor) Norian👍💛💫💛👍 @TomNorian ·

@webdevMason @eigenrobot @selentelechia @SarahAMcManus @Aella_Girl Yes and.. but ... err.. 🙂👍 That it entwines itself in all our reward systems doesn't mean we need to treat it as sacred! anymore than we need to think of food and nutrition as sacred knowing we're economically advanced to provide abundance

@TomNorian @webdevMason @eigenrobot @selentelechia @SarahAMcManus @Aella_Girl food nutrition are sacred to *my* soul ...also we are confused as fuck about nutrition and could use a lot more humility while we do things like collectively get fat possibly due to de-nutrifying foods to the point where we need to eat too much to live

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

conservativism, properly held, has a very humble tone: "we actually don't quite know why what's working is working, so let's be careful as we change it. it's very precious and our wisdom may not be deep enough"

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maybe we can figure it out together

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Thread · Why "unhealthy for you" doesn't mean "you should feel ashamed"

there's a very prevalent conflation, that drives people into two different kinds of crazy worldview depending on whether they take the modus ponens or the modus tollens horn:  "this is unnatural/unhealthy for you"      ⬇️ means ⬇️  "you should feel ashamed about it"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How people end up with crazy (to you) ontologies: they have some experiences they don't know how to make sense of and a crazy ontology comes along and says "hey look here's how it makes sense" and it is legit kinda helpful (but then obscures other things obvious to you)

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classic flavor of stupid resulting worldview tries to shame problems out of existence, without fully realizing that this just tangles them up the problems may pretend to not exist, but hide elsewhere (including from you, which sucks if it's your kid cutting contact)

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in reaction to that, this conflation causes people who (correctly) identify that feeling shame is fucking them up, to aggressively insist that the thing is natural or healthy or whatever. a flip to pride your sense of self can just be a mess, that's ok <3

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

a lot of current discourse says "no, this is natural/the-real-you, you don't have to feel shame about it" so people embrace the identity to stop the shame but imo the issue is we think it's appropriate to shame people *at all*; if we stopped *that*, identities could loosen

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obviously conservatism + [this conflation] will result in shaming anything that seems different, as a way to try to maintain the social order

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

conservativism, properly held, has a very humble tone: "we actually don't quite know why what's working is working, so let's be careful as we change it. it's very precious and our wisdom may not be deep enough"

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moreover, shame as a social performance is largely a way to signal that you have accepted someone telling you that you're bad, to get them off your back; it has nothing to do with (well, is antithetical to) deep learning & growth

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

shame is defensiveness defensiveness is shame shame is not other than defensiveness defensiveness is not other than shame

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meanwhile, if something is actually bad for someone, then help them see that, and they'll change naturally*, no shame required but the focus on "bad" is kinda already in the dualistic frame that will tend to encourage shame (*well, also this 👇)

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

the general problem i have with advice of the form “do this different thing” is that it consistently fails to respect the reasons why people are not already doing the different thing

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instead, get curious about why things are as they are (why the person is how they are, and is doing what they're doing) and about how whatever factors you're seeing might also be present in a way that would matter to someone. co-investigate! and

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

maybe we can figure it out together

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and, as always, if you can't get curious enough to listen to them and their experience, get curious about yourself and listen to yourself first!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Three steps for empowered dialogue: 1. see & affirm your own perspective deeply 2. hear the other person & take their perspective to their satisfaction 3. when they feel so heard that they can't help get curious about how you're seeing things, share your own perspective

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in conclusion: returning to the original conflation:  "this is unnatural/unhealthy for you"       ⬇️ means ⬇️   "you should feel ashamed about it" this is FALSE. the shame is the 2nd arrow. extra. but that doesn't mean you should feel pride!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't give kids extra problems either: 😑 they already see a problem; empathize &/ help solve it (now or in future) 🙈 they don't see their problem; point it out 🤔 they don't have a problem, you do—tell them something isn't working FOR YOU & seek a win-win 🤷‍♀️ no problem twitter.com/darcyjae/statu…

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Replying to Tom (sometimes Lucky Victor) Norian👍💛💫💛👍 @TomNorian ·

@MatjazLeonardis @webdevMason @Malcolm_Ocean @eigenrobot @selentelechia @SarahAMcManus @Aella_Girl Some people will replace meals 5 days a week with solyent to maintain a 6 pack in a sedentary workweek Some people will pay for a bj next to the Chipotle? Are we ok to say "gross but more power to you"?

@TomNorian @MatjazLeonardis @webdevMason @eigenrobot @selentelechia @SarahAMcManus @Aella_Girl ah yes thank for you for reminding me what prompted me to write this thread just now it seems to me that a lot of this discussion is within a frame that takes this conflation for granted, and then asks which stupid bullet to bite

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

there's a very prevalent conflation, that drives people into two different kinds of crazy worldview depending on whether they take the modus ponens or the modus tollens horn:  "this is unnatural/unhealthy for you"      ⬇️ means ⬇️  "you should feel ashamed about it" twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to jessicat @jessi_cata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean and I guess I pay less attention to neutral "missing the mark" because it is basically expected on secular grounds and isn't a huge problem by itself, and am more interested in explaining levels of evil that are only possible with knowledge of good and evil, not prior to it?

@jessi_cata I really like this account of the adam/eve story, which sees it as a shift to self-conscious awareness of (& identification with) the process that mediates between social expectations and one's own desires = knowledge of good & evil vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…

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@jessi_cata and thus people develop a capacity for deception not previously experienced among humans, and then the memes themselves learn to deceive/manipulate and this enables new forms of social control, which are fucked up but evolutionarily fit (aka "Game A")

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what I'm calling the rear brain/limbic system.

@slimepriestess how did you get "BH"? what's the "B" for? "back?"

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I am very exciting to QT this thread repeatedly into contexts where people are debating which of two crazy worldviews is better, on this axis

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

there's a very prevalent conflation, that drives people into two different kinds of crazy worldview depending on whether they take the modus ponens or the modus tollens horn:  "this is unnatural/unhealthy for you"      ⬇️ means ⬇️  "you should feel ashamed about it" twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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I'd been wanting to write this up for awhile; what prompted it tonight was the extensive discussion in the comments here, which kept bumping into this background assumption (not saying everyone here is making it, just that it was hard to foreground)

Aella @Aella_Girl ·

where is this "sexuality is harmful" undercurrent coming from? I don't think it's really a political thing, as it's coming from both sides. But as a culture we seem to be framing sex as carrying more danger than we used to, to justify tighter management. Why?

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Replying to Christopher Chevalier @cptnjamescook ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Thanks Malcolm you have convinced me, I'll give it a go

@cptnjamescook if it's a one-page gdoc DM it to me and I'll give it a look and a comment!

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Replying to @TheBrantChapman

@TheBrantChapman @ringo_ring maybe so, but I feel like if you're gonna go to the effort of giving an award it's worth spending a few minutes investigating the entity you're giving the award to, enough to not make such an error!

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Replying to @Holli_e_Gram

@Holli_e_Gram @Aella_Girl people are so bad at not making unnecessary enemies holy shit

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@browserdotsys takes time to get oriented! twitter.com/fklein907/stat…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

setup, punchline, metacommentary... then return to groundedness. knowing all this, what do? we keep meticulous changelogs and treat them with reverence. we talk with people about them so that it's a communal enterprise. we make a church of our learnings, and we sing our hymns

@visakanv @FilmerJarred has a whole very complex system for doing this Jarred have you posted about this? do we have a video of your presentation on it in Feb? that we could post?

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

where is this "sexuality is harmful" undercurrent coming from? I don't think it's really a political thing, as it's coming from both sides. But as a culture we seem to be framing sex as carrying more danger than we used to, to justify tighter management. Why?

@Aella_Girl seems to me it means that whatever "sex is harmless" worldviews are for sale must be denying something obvious!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

How people end up with crazy (to you) ontologies: they have some experiences they don't know how to make sense of and a crazy ontology comes along and says "hey look here's how it makes sense" and it is legit kinda helpful (but then obscures other things obvious to you)

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@DaveCBeck @jonnym1ller I don't think Vervaeke sees "masked cognitive strain" as relevant at all there's just an amount of engagement that matters although obviously yeah chilling is also good seems the "optimal" thing seems to you to be a bit of a weird frame control thing or something?

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn footnoting: I recently watched a conversation between prof jason potts and sam barton which emmett and malcolm i bet you'd enjoy. screenshotting parts of my notes that feel relevant. in some parts he carefully disambiguates what people mean by capitalism: youtube.com/watch?v=cqCvt1…

@visakanv @eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn very relevant to @__drewface

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Replying to Polymathematics @onlyfootnotes ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @kaseyklimes x.com/onlyfootnotes/… Link: github.com/polymathematic…

@onlyfootnotes @kaseyklimes sweet, I'll try it out!

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Retweeted @PrinceVogel

I'm on team Become Who You Are. I have some particular aesthetic attachments, ideas about how it might be nice for society…

@Morphenius do you have a thread about "extra" yet? cud b gud

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

in conclusion: returning to the original conflation:  "this is unnatural/unhealthy for you"       ⬇️ means ⬇️   "you should feel ashamed about it" this is FALSE. the shame is the 2nd arrow. extra. but that doesn't mean you should feel pride! twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Arvind Venkataramani is letting go of conditioning @_arvind ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean @RichDecibels My question is more about the qualities of paradigm-breaking scenes specifically. Does it need a different mix than a “regular” innovation scene? Do we know enough to theorise this? 2/2

@_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels I guess part of the original context was about researchers in particular it seems to me that a healthy scene of researchers that is not *within* a single paradigm in the first place might actually be near-sufficient

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

question it seems worth someone researching: what factors enable researchers (in/out of academia, at various levels) to escape from a doomed paradigm (eg neuroreductionism) into something more alive? in practice, what makes the difference?

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@_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels unfortunately researchers tend to congregate in scenes that are literally BASED on sharing a paradigm obvious reasons to do this—shared language, commensurate frames, etc—but it defs creates a trap too

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you don't have to tell me you don't have to tell me that you're not telling me you don't have to tell me that you're not telling me that you're not telling me but hopefully we can at least not actively pretend that you are

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@_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels this feels to me very related to the Bertrand Russell quote and co-gnosis

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

hey @Morphenius I think the 2nd half of this quote is about the co-gnosis problem (the trouble the occurs when two people who have a kind of self-authored "I can tell for myself" knowing come in contact and can't figure out how to relate where their knowings seem to contradict) twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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to be clear the "I'll show you" was figurative; I am not gonna put in the work to research the origins of various philosophies in order to demonstrate my point 😛

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Replying to Dinalith 🐉 🌕 @alinekaeri ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what if I pay you well for it?

@alinekaeri how well?

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same point, slightly different vibe:

🦋 JUNE STRINGS🪞🫀 @junestrings ·

I think you should just go and do what you for yearn for, but don’t whine too much about what also happens when you do. just go, and do it. there will be consequences, and your yearning will drive you.

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not super stoked about how my recent shift from Linux to Mac maps onto Thomas Sowell's A Conflict Of Visions

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@RomeoStevens76 it seems to me like both are viable options, and I could just try both versions but overall it feels to me like there is a natural link between conservativism (as described here) and humility that isn't there quite so strongly with the others

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Replying to Paul Millerd @p_millerd ·

@neuranne I liked this from sivers

quoting @p_millerd: REAL AMBITION ("Any idiot can buy a Ferrari") To Derek its about being the "the skills or talents that you want to have" "in all my hours of thinking about this, I have never thought about other people" @sivers Watch: https://t.co/olRGzkL7Nt Listen: https://t.co/lNCE64ONk3 ht

@p_millerd @neuranne real ambition intersects with the mortifying ordeal of being known

Prince Vogelfrei 🐦‍⬛ @PrinceVogel ·

I'm on team Become Who You Are. I have some particular aesthetic attachments, ideas about how it might be nice for society to be, but in the end I take pride in being able to see innumerable types of person and think "more!" - even if that would mean conflict with me and mine.

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Replying to Derek Van Ittersum @derekvan ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Super curious about your proposal here. Can you say more about how that distrust is not allowed by the practice as shared or maybe not afforded by it? What might it look like to listen to that distrust instead?

@derekvan I'm not really sure about these practices (still unclear) but you can maybe get a taste of what I'm on about by reading this very dense post. feel free to ask Qs! it was written for people with a ton of context malcolmocean.com/2022/10/open-l…

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Replying to @joyurge

@joyurge @SarahAMcManus @natandmartha I've been thinking recently that this is the vibe I would take if I were a teacher hello student! I agree that the constraints are not optimal for your learning here, however I also have constraints. you're a divine being though. how might we work w that?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

maybe we can figure it out together

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@Aella_Girl guessing it has a lot to do with the lightness/mass dimension more than good/bad harmless ~= "not a big deal" so people are pushing back with "no it's a big[ger] deal [than you think]" but that's getting translated into "harmful" somewhere in the chain twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…

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Replying to @DaveCBeck

@DaveCBeck @jonnym1ller the most salient memory I had from reading MC's Flow book (on a plane iirc) was of him describing an old woman in a greek village who loved cooking, so I definitely missed that memo haha felt like very much the flow of enjoying life (including the part where we can't rest 100%)

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we must be the fractally-self-untangling meta-process we wish to see in the world

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv huh. not far off from how I've used the phrasing x.com/aleksil79/stat…

@aleksil79 @visakanv here's an even more accurate translation of gandhi

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

we must be the fractally-self-untangling meta-process we wish to see in the world

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@_arvind @Malcolm_Ocean @RichDecibels Why can’t we all have a malcolm in our lives?

@visakanv @_arvind @RichDecibels don't we? guys I'm right here

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Replying to Arvind Venkataramani is letting go of conditioning @_arvind ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean @RichDecibels Too many different particular magics, hard to identify those magics, wanting a magic doesn’t mean the magic-haver wants to be around you, cultivating a magic has opportunity costs. Etc.

@_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels as part of my quest I am figuring out how to reproduce my particular magic as well as how to get magics in general to be communicable rather than resulting in clashes (which seems to be the default atm, which is why most wizards end up either starting cults or being kinda loners)

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the blame game happens because everybody can see for themselves the fact that things are NOT simply their fault, but fail to realize that this is true for other people too

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Thread · "That's not fair" as a bid to be received

I remember hating when my dad would say "life's not fair" in response to me saying "that's not fair!" about *some decision he in particular was making* what I was trying to say, but couldn't articulate, was "you're not listening! I haven't been received"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

hot take re complaining: it is how people affirm their values and the reality & legitimacy of their own experience

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what I was saying was "we aren't in sync!"

Guy @nosilverv ·

If you’re synced then “what you want” is what you both want. Different wants, that need explicit negotiation, are not the cause of the problem but a symptom of the problem: lack of sync

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I haven't been a parent. I'm sure once I am I will experience lots of situations in which I feel like there's not time to get in sync (sometimes accurately, sometimes inaccurately) but there's basically always time to at least receive someone's pain at not being incorporated

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time for it doesn't mean it's easy to do though! it requires a kind of surrender, and it can be very tricky to do so without taking on blame for the whole situation or for their pain, which is to say admitting something you know to be false

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the blame game happens because everybody can see for themselves the fact that things are NOT simply their fault, but fail to realize that this is true for other people too

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF yeah, unfairness sucks and it's hard for me to properly offer that as empathy, because as far as I can tell you identify me as (in part) the source of your unfair situation which means you want me to DO SOMETHING to receive you

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I remember hating when my dad would say "life's not fair" in response to me saying "that's not fair!" about *some decision he in particular was making* what I was trying to say, but couldn't articulate, was "you're not listening! I haven't been received" twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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@HephaistosF and I am unable/unwilling to do much in particular aside from talk with you but I will talk with you, and I will do my best not to ask you to pretend that you feel that your will has been incorporated into The Whole when you can tell it hasn't

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF yeah the way I see our relationship is that I am being me and letting you be you, from a distance at which that works for me I'm not always perfect at either, but I'm here

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Replying to @DRMacIver

@DRMacIver maybe but for me I'm pretty damn sure an "if I knew how to make it fair I would" would have gone a long way rather than a kind of "I am teaching you a lesson about the world" energy

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF exactly. and a simple "I would like to make it fair for you but I don't know how right now" would have gone a long way

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RichDecibels @visakanv My general approach has been something like: superego DDOS + noticing discomfort + antimemes + iterative port scanning + hypnotic induction

@slimepriestess @RichDecibels @visakanv ahhh that is an option though not the kind of thing I'm into I prefer something gentler and more self-authored. not trying to break others' paradigms but creating contexts where they feel safe relaxing paradigm and parallaxing with blindspots

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF yeah, it would have been great to know but it wouldn't have been true before. I took a very different approach to my relationships, years ago and it was not knowable-to-me-then that it would turn into this I had to life my life to unfold it thusly

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Replying to Arvind Venkataramani is letting go of conditioning @_arvind ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv @RichDecibels I long for a gathering where we can just witness and absorb each others magics in this epidemiological way. (I try to do that but it takes a lot of silencing the mind and a lot of being present with oneself. Absorbing magic is also a discipline.)

@_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels such a gathering is broadly in my intentions, though will probably be people I know better than I currently know you (tho ofc we could get to know each other better)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Morphenius Finding myself wanting to run an "aspiring sane mage retreat" or something, where we all practice our magic and explore going far into our power and so on, with good guardrails

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me: *writes new post and makes a pretty graphic for it* twitter: *makes links to substack not preview* me: ...now I feel motivated to post on facebook, which otherwise wouldn't have come to mind at all twitter: wait uhh me: thanks for reminding me!

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made a new post elaborating on how I approach pomodoros—with an attitude of liberation I can't for the life of me figure out how to write lifehack posts without them turning into dharma. idk how other people do it lol. intentionality.substack.com/p/pomodoros-as…

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

a thread on an experience of pomodoros as a form of freedom, rather than forcing 🍅 during (25min) work block: the chosen intention is free to veto any other intention/inclination/urge 🍏 during (5min) break: ANY intention is free to veto any other

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Replying to Aishvar @AishvarR ·

@ThatsMauvelous @___frye They’re not allowed to tell you in app that you can get it for cheaper

@AishvarR @ThatsMauvelous @___frye I am aware of at least one app that when this native tax came in, raised prices by like 2× or more, such that subscriptions auto-cancelled, I think the idea being that the increase was to the point of being implausible, causing people to go "huh" and double-check online

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

I find it fascinating when I watch viral partner dance videos on tiktok the comments are always like "how do you not fall in love?" and having danced for nearly 10 years the answer is "you kinda just do but it's not as big a deal as you think it is"

@captain_mrs I have found "how would you organize your life if you could fall in love with anybody?" to be a powerful prompt, although also can be misleading—actual pragmatic compatibility is still HUGE.

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"are you telling me that when I'm high-status I can ratio all the trolls in my replies?" "no, I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to"

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Replying to Matthew Pierce @MJPiercello ·

@visakanv @firasd Great musical [& other] performers can make what looks like a mistake, but instead of freezing, they LEAN INTO IT, transforming the unexpected into something sublime. From a certain lens, EVERYTHING that happens is an opportunity to bring forth more artistry. Everything.

@MJPiercello @visakanv @firasd remixed this as a standalone guy

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"are you telling me that when I'm high-status I can ratio all the trolls in my replies?" "no, I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to"

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Replying to Kairos @soughtsound ·

@animalologist Totally. Wish it was my own! It’s one of those ideas where once you hear it and start looking for it you start seeing it everywhere!

@soughtsound @animalologist Bly's The Sibling Society is one resource I've heard, tho I haven't actually read it

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reading this post and I stared into space a bit and felt into something subtle and I think I made some headway remembered moments of experiencing the perfection of things, leaned a little in that direction felt the sense in which even when lost in 100 open tabs I'm still space

Jake Orthwein @JakeOrthwein ·

💎 In which @Meaningness humorously and poetically points out why it’s difficult to point out the nature of mind. vividness.live/non-statement

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Replying to David Chapman @Meaningness ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This new post is part of the explanation for why mechanistic interpretation is likely unhelpful here: vividness.live/non-statement

@Meaningness mmmm appreciating this. got a few laughs and some inklings from it

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

reading this post and I stared into space a bit and felt into something subtle and I think I made some headway remembered moments of experiencing the perfection of things, leaned a little in that direction felt the sense in which even when lost in 100 open tabs I'm still space twitter.com/JakeOrthwein/s…

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if you were a Culture ship, what might your name be? just blurt it out don't think too hard eg for me: I'll Spare You The Details

Faith Rotich @imani__r ·

Also just learned that: "The Minds choose their own names, and thus they usually express something about a particular Mind's attitude, character or aims in their personal life." theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_s…

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PSA: if you like to keep your DMs open, might have to reopen them after twitter twiddled the settings knob

Gergely Orosz @GergelyOrosz ·

WTF Twitter. I started to see little to no DMs: and I keep my DMs open at all times, on purpose. Twitter SILENTLY changed my (maybe everyone’s?) settings to only allow messages from only people I follow + verified users. Go to Settings -> Privacy and safety -> DMs to change it

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Replying to mizminh @mizminh ·

@Malcolm_Ocean It's an enfolding prompted by the babe. Receptivity and acceptance are all that are required.

@mizminh yeah I think a lot of people do this intuitively! it might actually be half the difference between "ppl who can hold a baby" & "ppl who can't hold a baby" (gf: other half is that some people are too chronically tense/dysregulated to actually be a comfortable being to enfold in)

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

This is a fun example of scientism-as-religion, You can’t just say “paint roofs white, it helps a bit” You have to say that “scientists” have crafted a special thing that makes ~numbers better (“8 degrees! 19 degrees! 40 percent!) Cuz that’s the local hierophantic language

quoting @nytimes: Scientists have made a white paint that can make surfaces as much as eight degrees Fahrenheit cooler than air temperatures at midday, and up to 19 degrees cooler at night, reducing inside temperatures and cutting air-conditioning needs by as much as 40%. https://t.co/uILAa4AC5G h

@the_wilderless also idk if it was for this reason but I lived in a neighborhood where they made all the new sidewalks white and it was fucking blinding

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Retweeted @goblinodds

"men dont have rites of passage anymore" what if the new rite of passage, the way you become a Man, is to set aside all the…

Retweeted @goblinodds

men are the askers and women are the filter-ers and "feminism" fucked this up by aiming at harassers and missing and headsh…

Replying to Lucca @lolalucxy ·

@goblinodds IME this is mostly a "being too online" take. A lot of leftish online stuff can give that impression, but that's because talking about stuff always misses the mark. Online politics are perpetually hyperbolic. My entire circle IRL pretty hard left, and not like that.

@lolalucxy @goblinodds I mean the take was about tpot and tpot is arguably pretty too-online

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Replying to christopher @christo16234889 ·

@detransaqua @TransRadically @chloecole All the more reason you should use the word "Groomed" even if you consider polarizing. It is polarizing. Things can too easily get pushed aside if no one notices. Why words matter…

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@christo16234889 @detransaqua @TransRadically @ChoooCole I'll just vote in favor of being flexible with words and not using ones that unnecessarily polarize, but rather ones that make it easier for people to see things and find/build common ground.

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Replying to Nick Dobos @NickADobos ·

@goblinodds Yup nailed it Young men hear Toxic masculinity as “all masculinity is bad, don’t be masculine at all” Not “drop the toxic parts of masculinity and embrace the good” I was shellshocked when I finally realized women loved men because of their masculinity, not despite it

@NickADobos @goblinodds

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

"toxic masculinity" ❌subtly implies masculinity is toxic ❌encourages fear, hatred, shaming ❌divisive: little "toxic femininity" "traumatized masculinity" ✅recognizes trauma as cause, not just effect ✅encourages compassion, grief, healing ✅unifying: we are all traumatized

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Replying to @anniefryman

@anniefryman @levin_phil this looks really exciting... did it actually get passed? where's it at?

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Replying to Jim O'Shaughnessy @jposhaughnessy ·

“Every fact of science was once Damned. Every invention was considered impossible. Every discovery was a nervous shock to some orthodoxy. Every artistic innovation was denounced as fraud and folly. The entire web of culture and "progress," everything on earth that is human-made

@jposhaughnessy I got really excited by Feyerabend's Against Method, which I just started reading, which is basically "the one principle of science must be: anything goes. anarchy"

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Replying to Jeffrey Ladish @JeffLadish ·

Do you have any takes or opinions that you think are really good, but when you've shared them you've gotten very little reaction / no one cared?

@JeffLadish a lot of my tweets/threads but I need to stow them somewhere because I can never find them in moments like this when someone asks

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I bet the creators of the first dictionaries would be horrified to discover that people started using them as prescriptive sources on which words should exist and what they should mean, rather than observations of what was so at one slice of evolutionary history

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@eshear @Malcolm_Ocean @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn I do think my definition is relatively close to the intended meaning in the original sense, but yes I think in any context where you want someone to understand what you actually mean rather than communicate vibes you can't really use "capitalism" without defining it.

@DRMacIver @eshear @MarkovMagnifico @killa_kwinn came across this tweet which has one rough take on the evolution (arguably devolution) of the word "capitalism" (at least in some circles)

Zach Weinersmith @ZachWeiner ·

My impression, having been born in 1982, is that there have been these shifts: 1) Capitalism = not-socialism, and/or entrepreneurialism 2) Capitalism = consumerism/greed 3) Capitalism = bad stuff happening that involves markets 4) Capitalism = bad stuff involving money

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Replying to Tyson Clarke @TysonSClarke ·

@DRMacIver @Malcolm_Ocean Yeah, we're just at different levels of consciousness man. If someone lies to me, I just take it as that person doesn't have the same relationship to truth that I do, and I act accordingly. I don't do business with them. I don't believe them. I don't have the energy to...

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@TysonSClarke @DRMacIver > we're just at different levels of consciousness man this would be a funny thing to say in my replies if it were in a context where it was clearly in jest, but in this situation it seems to me like a sloppy status-game way of pretending that your inability to listen is a virtue

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@TysonSClarke @DRMacIver as the uhh referee here (insofar as I'm the guy who owns the thread) I'm close to blocking you as well Tyson I have higher standards for my mentions than you're upholding rn.

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

@Malcolm_Ocean and so also vital sustainable traditions worthy of conservation must be built around a core of reflexive, intelligent, free discussion aimed at an expanding and dynamic common good, which seems like the essence of good republicanism

@meekaale beautiful, I love it 🙌

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Replying to Ra -CascadeCamp 8/7-9 @slimepriestess ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RichDecibels @visakanv Ah yeah, I tried that for a while and no amount of gentle nudging ever proved particularly effective, whereas getting their paradigm to eat itself has worked much better.

@slimepriestess @RichDecibels @visakanv slow is smooth, smooth is fast

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

we don't have time to rush

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Replying to @DRMacIver

@DRMacIver my mum said I always had an intense sense for injustice, so I suspect I may have been different here, at least in some cases

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

@_arvind @Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv sir you are describing the gatherings I organise

@RichDecibels @_arvind @visakanv I am skeptical that this goes quite as deep as I have in mind when I say "magic" but I would be very happy to discover otherwise! definitely keen to join an extended Rich-hosted event when I get the chance

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Replying to @HephaistosF

@HephaistosF true. I mean I think my dad mostly did want to make things good. lemme revisit one of the memories... ...definitely not what I'd usually call malice, though maybe a bit of... hard to pin it exactly. similar to someone who is glad to be helpless since it means they get to chill

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Replying to michael vassar @HiFromMichaelV ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Not receiving is how we keep life unjust, not just unfair.

@HiFromMichaelV how would you name the difference?

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Replying to melville @yourfriendmell ·

@Malcolm_Ocean But isn’t this still a lesson? People will not always listen to you or put your best interest first? My dad was like this (I LOVE my dad but he was often insensitive) This helped me a lot I think “Focus on what you can control” Can’t get too angry when it’s not up to you

@yourfriendmell it was a lesson, but not kind it was a failing to own his own responsibility in the situation, and admit he didn't care or was incapable of doing something different which meant it was a kind of dishonesty, in a sense

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if you think "that'll teach someone a lesson" and the lesson it teaches them is not the one you intend to teach them, you are a fool not a teacher

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

you can’t bully someone into being a good person because you simply reinforce that bullying is how you get things done

quoting @hankgreen: I just feel like being an asshole to an asshole actually makes them more of an asshole.

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Replying to Matthew Pierce @MJPiercello ·

@_arvind @Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv @RichDecibels The key insight is this: since nothing much can be accomplished when other players are actively working to sabotage or subvert the outcome, it is wise to identify and co-opt such players early in the game. The LoRC is a system for doing just this.

@MJPiercello @_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels mmm I like these meta points re LoRC. hadn't seen them before. good shit I forget if I've said this MJP but your "any disagreement can be reframed as agreement of existence of dispute" maps quite tightly onto my emphasis on respecting & honoring others' distrust

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@MJPiercello @_arvind @visakanv @RichDecibels the reason I like "distrust" instead of things like agreement/etc is because (afaict) it makes it easier to go deeper into something like "the very way things seem to us" / "our felt sense of the world", not just propositional thinkings or beliefs

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot @visakanv the stuff in this thread seems like it might go in your files somewhere

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how would you recommend people tell the difference between: - general fear of commitment - not wanting to commit because you haven't found something that would be right for you to commit to yet? (in romance/marriage, in city/community, in live spirituality/discipleship, whatever)

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this is even worse than when after logging in with my phone number as username to my phone bill they have me confirm my phone number before 2FA'ing it as a security measure I used google auth to log in to @slackHQ, and now for ✨extra security✨ they're emailing the same account

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Replying to Tyson Clarke @TysonSClarke ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @DRMacIver It's not status at all man. You guys are in a green/blue communal position. I'm in a red/orange protective position. Those are different levels of consciousness. I don't understand why that's offensive.

@TysonSClarke @DRMacIver oh! you were saying "I'm at a lower level of consciousness!" I think it's pretty reasonable that people misinterpreted you, under the circumstances. glad I sent my message and you clarified tho I don't know that this use of the integral/sd stages makes sense to me

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Replying to Tyson Clarke @TysonSClarke ·

@jackinlondon @Malcolm_Ocean does it make sense that a dad would be thinking in protective red meme, while "fairness" would be blue or green?

@TysonSClarke @jackinlondon "a dad"? I mean you sound like a dad I know who complained that his daughter had mostly stopped talking to him in response to stuff he was doing that he described as "just being a dad" and I was like "uhh, you were being a dad In A Particular Way. there are other ways to dad"

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@TysonSClarke @jackinlondon which I WOULD agree is a low level of consciousness, when someone takes for granted that they have to embody a role in a certain way, although it seems much more blue meme if I had to pick one than red/orange

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@TysonSClarke @jackinlondon do you think you're gonna prepare your kids for an orange-green-yellow world by red-memeing at them? I think that'll mostly confuse them and result in them thinking (accurately) you're out of touch, like I did when my dad insisted that as my dad he had to tell me to cut my hair

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Replying to Tyson Clarke @TysonSClarke ·

@jackinlondon That's your implication. Not mine. I'm a protective father, which in certain understandings of consciousness would put me BELOW concerns of fairness. I could have said I was a higher consciousness, but I didn't, because I don't believe that. It wouldn't even make sense.

@TysonSClarke @jackinlondon you were misinterpreted by at least 3 people as *obviously* meaning that you meant higher consciousness (and I'm not aware of anyone who interpreted you correctly) which suggests you could use an update here about how your communication is landing

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Replying to Jack @jackinwarsaw ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @TysonSClarke What do the colours refer to btw?

@jackinlondon @TysonSClarke spiral dynamics and/or integral stages medium.com/illumination-c…

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Replying to David R. MacIver @DRMacIver ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @TysonSClarke Although honestly I endorse everything about my responses except not blocking him earlier, and think they were politer than was warranted for significantly longer than was deserved. But I shall try to untag you from arguments in future.

@DRMacIver @TysonSClarke all good man this was (/still is) interesting! it was only the point when he said the the thing that I thought was a straight-up status dunk that I was like "too far, I want to say something" and even that is proving more interesting than I would have expected

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pretty funny to have a language generate words it can't spell 🤦‍♀️ English you're so silly

Dr. Alex Zawacki @achillghost ·

There is no way to spell, using English orthography, the colloquial American abbreviation of “the usual.” The uzhe. The uje. Uzsh. Can’t do it without like diacritics

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Replying to Dr. Alex Zawacki @achillghost ·

There is no way to spell, using English orthography, the colloquial American abbreviation of “the usual.” The uzhe. The uje. Uzsh. Can’t do it without like diacritics

@AChillGhost as stupid as it sounds, it might be "uge", in parallel with "luge" it's *hardly* as if you're not allowed to make words in english that you can't confidently pronounce when you see them written

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so far pretty dissatisfied with the answers to this (though appreciative to everybody who has offered an answer!) so this is encouragement to try answering it yourself! (or mu'ing the question and asserting eg that the Q is wrong and it's really about a secret third thing)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

how would you recommend people tell the difference between: - general fear of commitment - not wanting to commit because you haven't found something that would be right for you to commit to yet? (in romance/marriage, in city/community, in live spirituality/discipleship, whatever)

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Replying to Ari Nielsen @anielsen108 ·

@visakanv Note on evolution of culture: My kid listens to fiction audiobooks about 4 hours a day, mainly books written for adults. She can read and understand the most complicated written instructions. But, as yet, she has not chosen to read even a single fiction book at 7-yr-old-level.

@anielsen108 @visakanv curious how this has evolved 4y later!

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Replying to Shajedul Karim @shajedulkarim_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean the fear of commitment is often an uncertain whisper, a hesitation before plunging. it's a doubt that lingers, irrespective of the value in front of you. not finding the right thing feels different. it's like holding a piece of the puzzle that just doesn't fit, no matter which

@shajedulkarim_ what if you have both? how can you tell if there's also not-fit, below the fear?

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Replying to Daniel Tabakman @DanielTabakman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I have consulted some ladies and they say you should look at the point of failure, for patterns of behavior.

@DanielTabakman what do you mean?

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean For me, there was a clear felt sense of "being ready to commit" that was separate from the felt sense of "this is the thing/person I want to commit to."

@mattgoldenberg for me there was a sense that I was ready to commit but a story that I wasn't and so I committed despite a felt sense of "this might not be it" in order to prove that I was ready to commit (years ago, in the most salient example in my life)

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Replying to KIND HILL/FREE BEAM (Protopian) @DAtD_life ·

@Malcolm_Ocean subscribed as someone who struggles with this

@DAtD_life want to say more about the situations you've been grappling with, to help us tease out some generalizations?

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Replying to @thebestestpie

@thebestestpie very good point if you're on that end of it! spot on. I'm thinking more about discerning in oneself

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Replying to kernel draft @coloneldraught ·

@Malcolm_Ocean to the accused commitmentphobe, its probably just not knowing what you want/yourself. fear not present. keep going keep learning. itll be okay to the accuser, its a cope. they dont want to feel what it feels like to not be chosen. just move on

@newthotguy seems basically right, yeah I guess there's a difference between "this isn't what I want" and "I wouldn't trust myself to tell if it were"

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Replying to ali @alitaylor ·

i can’t tell how deranged it is for me to ask myself “what kind of mother do my hypothetical future children deserve” as a motivating tactic for my current self-improvement

@_ali_taylor "deserve" can hook you up with some guilt shit but afaict this sort of thing can also make for some of the cleanest motivation & steering if you don't

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Thread · Experimenting with surrendering to a chosen larger Whole · 4 of 6 tweets

new experiment I'm playing with:   surrender to some We/Whole that I'm part of   & do whatever it tells me to this is a mental shift, to be clear—no *individual* gets to tell me what to do (tho i cud ask). & my own desires are part of what that We is for, & need to be included!

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possible Wholes include: - a team: how do I serve the wholeness that is this company/project? - a couple - a household - all of humanity - myself across time?? - my future family, including kids not-yet-born

ali @alitaylor ·

i can’t tell how deranged it is for me to ask myself “what kind of mother do my hypothetical future children deserve” as a motivating tactic for my current self-improvement

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but it's important to pick one specific one at a given time, otherwise I get conflicting instructions! and this is possible in part because I'm not letting a bunch of other superegos / social-expectations constantly tell me what to do in the background

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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still early with this experiment but so far it has yielded some very smooth flow-states, taking care of what needs taking care of!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

there's a mode I can get in that is very beautiful and I want it in more of my life where I'm present and taking care of something, such as cleaning a space, and in each moment I'm just doing whatever cares for it best, with full couldness at several scales

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@_ali_taylor here's a thread about my recent experiments with something very similar!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

new experiment I'm playing with:   surrender to some We/Whole that I'm part of   & do whatever it tells me to this is a mental shift, to be clear—no *individual* gets to tell me what to do (tho i cud ask). & my own desires are part of what that We is for, & need to be included!

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it feels amazing to surrender to something larger problem is, most somethings-larger available atm are batshit insane solution there, it seems to me, is to surrender to your own sense of the something-larger you would like to surrender to if it existed, & thereby create it

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Thread · Experimenting with surrendering to a chosen larger Whole · 1 of 6 tweets

surrender, of course, to the sanest version of the larger Whole that you can imagine!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

it feels amazing to surrender to something larger problem is, most somethings-larger available atm are batshit insane solution there, it seems to me, is to surrender to your own sense of the something-larger you would like to surrender to if it existed, & thereby create it

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brilliant clip talking about how panic attacks occur when you become afraid of your own fear, creating a runaway self-reinforcing feedback loop and how the way out is through: to embrace the panic attacks fully (he recommends panicaway.com as a resource)

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Retweeted @John_Attridge

Writers, and I cannot emphasise this enough, FINISH THE DRAFT. It is only when you have a complete draft that it can lat…

Replying to Aaron @AaronEstel ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @aleksil79 I have been trying to do this a bit, but the rebel in me really doesn't trust surrender

@AaronEstel @aleksil79 can you ask the rebel in you what it would like to surrender to? maybe something like "an even bigger more badass rebel that cares about all the things I care about" (also this may not work at all, just a random idea)

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my father-in-law was a master at scissor statements...

Markov @MarkovMagnifico ·

the keys to engagement baiting on twitter dot com - qt - blend 2+ ideas in the current zeitgeist - be wrong but in a way that a lot of ppl agree with - use compelling and concise diction that doesn’t bury the lede - abuse familiar meme formats - speak in absolutes

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

if anyone feels like giving me a birthday present, share a piece of my writing you liked, and lemme know what you liked about it (tweet, article, course material, whatever)

quoting @the_wilderless: 🥳 https://t.co/si46pZeTUj

@the_wilderless I feel like I have picked up a lot more vibe-wise from you, and this is non-central, but I liked this thread

River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

This is also a nice thing about Somatic Resonance over most ways of meditating I’ve been exposed to, Somatic Resonance pairs with other activities—it’s in some ways a type of open awareness meditation that lets you resonate different aspects of experience with each other

quoting @metaLulie: nice thing about the Alexander Technique over meditation is it’s better in activity — you can do it while doing other stuff (with many of the same benefits as sitting 😎)

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"Why did I think I could heal myself by taking myself apart?"

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Replying to Maria Made in Cosmos is taking a break✨ @made_in_cosmos ·

@this_is_silvia 43. Baby girl on the other hand understood a lot of our English conversations and sometimes translated things I just said back to me. She found it hard to contribute though, I don't understand her well enough when she tries to speak English and it got her quite frustrated

@made_in_cosmos @this_is_silvia so your baby would hear you say something in english, and repeat it back to you in polish? cool!

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maybe enough people get your thing by now that they'll build enough ladders to supplement the rungs you didn't write on the way up

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

one of my long-term internal conflicts is on the utility of explaining things to people that don’t get it. I started out as an overexplainer. I don’t think u get to 230,000 tweets without being some kind of overexplainer. But I think I’ve also “explained myself out” in a 🪜 sense

@visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

maybe enough people get your thing by now that they'll build enough ladders to supplement the rungs you didn't write on the way up

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@visakanv was gonna tweet that just a reply then somehow it seemed neat to do standalone

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incredible post about a bunch of nuances of gender ift.tt/OAJ0yor

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coworking! right now! come get focused! intend.do/room/feral

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don't confuse shaming yourself when not doing something for actually motivating yourself to do it

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"most of being a good tweeter is just noticing the bangers in everyday conversation. your mom will say bangers sometimes—you just have to write them down!" 😂 — @visakanv

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people think that weird is the opposite of normal and that's *true*, but not how you'd think weird is natural, and normalcy is an illusion *imposed* on top of it.

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Retweeted @BecomingCritter

Motion to change all instances of "TPOT" to "hereabouts" and all instances of "people in TPOT" to "all ya'll"

Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean would be impressive: I'm not convinced *I'm* getting it yet 😅

@aleksil79 well maybe someone else has to write the ladder rungs to fill in the gap so people can reach you, if you're off in faraway lands!

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Replying to madison @dearmadisonblue ·

@Malcolm_Ocean tbh that's how we fix most things

@0xmaddie_ why did I think I was a thing?

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Retweeted @myceliummage

people like second person tweets because they want to be penetrated. this tweet is written in passive voice to allow you…

at the moment you first read the word "you" in this tweet, you hadn't gotten to the end of it, but sooner or later you probably will, and if you keep going you'll discover that now you have

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Replying to The Artist fka: 𝓶𝔂𝓬𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓾𝓶 𝓶𝓪𝓰𝓮 {❤️‍🔥} @myceliummage ·

people like second person tweets because they want to be penetrated. this tweet is written in passive voice to allow you to like it without confusing your epistemics and your sexuality. now that youve noticed whats going on ill switch to first person and remark that ive finished.

@myceliummage hmmm that's clarifying thanks

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

so hard to figure out what pronouns to use while tweeting • you can use the general/audience "you" • but I sometimes feel I want to own that I'm speaking about my own experience & patterns • some people do their tweets in third person • one can say "one" but who does that?

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

ya I suspect that talk therapy is basically just astrology/tarot with a degree astrology has stars, tarot has cards, therapy has your childhood

quoting @SarahTheHaider: My theory is that tarot/astrology appeals for much the same reasons therapy does. It helps one sort the significant from the insignificant, grants a kind of logic to social affairs, assists the other-directed in forming their sense of personal identity.

@Aella_Girl depends on the therapy. some are specifically oriented towards not just providing a workable narrative but in actually locating your own agency in doing the things you do that don't make sense to "you", which uhhhh astrology is probably gonna struggle with

Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

the only known way to heal a trauma response is to activate it at the same time as another schema that contradicts the trauma schema's assumptions *in its own frame* in juxtaposing the 2 you unlock the first schema for a ~5 hour window where it can be updated permanently

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Replying to The Artist fka: 𝓶𝔂𝓬𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓾𝓶 𝓶𝓪𝓰𝓮 {❤️‍🔥} @myceliummage ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i view it as a linguistic martial art, purposely moving between i am/i am not/you are, that is/you are not, that is not all different energies & entanglements, depending on how you want to move others or yourself

@myceliummage I'm working on a book right now and I am provisionally intending to write the entire thing in first person maybe some little "instructions" boxes that shift to second person for people who want my thinking all up in them

RomeoStevens @RomeoStevens76 ·

I would enjoy self help books more if they were about how the author helped themselves and not about how other people's problems prove the author right about their model.

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Retweeted @aphercotropist

Something kind of funny with "it's in your mind" when it comes to hallucinations. That's like, exactly missing the poin…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

oh yeah and I used to get nightmares whenever I slept early, that was a thing for many years x.com/visakanv/statu…

@visakanv maybe the prison you were thrown into for no crime of your own is the society that you were born in and live in, that you have to deal with if/when you go to bed early maybe that dream was straight up trying to tell you what you finally realized today

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how long til we get tech that can smartly pause a podcast between sentences while giving navigation instructions, rather than just ducking the audio?

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Retweeted @apertator

@RomeoStevens76 @HephaistosF @Malcolm_Ocean @Morphenius @AskYatharth @VividVoid_ @chaosprime @losingcontrol23 @ben_mathes @b…

Replying to Adam Yormark @adamyormark ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @p_millerd See where you're coming from, but "normal" and "weird" exist independently of "natural" and "unnatural" What's "normal" is what fits in the middle band of some societal distribution. Distribution can be natural, even the tails. Normalcy is not an illusion and weird isn't "bad"

@adamyormark @p_millerd sure but the distribution is often contrived and fake and if you have even a few dimensions you'll soon discover that there are no actual instances of normalcy along all of them at once

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@onnlucky @thehandbehindt1 @sentientist [Source of latter claim: book called The End of Average, whose main point is "just because you can calculate an average for a population, doesn't mean there's even a single member of the population that meaningfully resembles that average"] (applies to bodies, brains, &+)

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Retweeted @the_wilderless

I still vote we rebuild the humanities outside of academic institutions, On a foundation of “the humanities are the st…

Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

I still vote we rebuild the humanities outside of academic institutions, On a foundation of “the humanities are the study of consciousness encoded in culture” With a view that consciousness is fundamental to existence, & worth studying in its own right, through its expressions

quoting @michaelbhaskar: I see a lot of gnashing of teeth on here from humanities academics about funding cuts, attacks from the government, falling student numbers etc. Fair enough. But I also see little critical reflection on where the disciplines might have gone wrong, or how they should change.

@the_wilderless yesssssss an initial contribution of mine (loads more where this came from)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Malcolm, explain the evolution of consciousness right the fuck meow, in one breath, standing on one foot (reply below if you see your work (or play!) as being within this field, whether research or application!) twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Retweeted @chercher_ai

It's fun to notice the behind-the-scenes processing going on all the time. I just dropped a berry on the floor, and notic…

the dharma is first-person research

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Replying to Pranab @nopranablem ·

What if we do an RCT on... the dharma

@nopranablem tempting, but

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

the dharma is first-person research

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Replying to Block Musk. Free 🇺🇦 @RobertB41188300 ·

@eigenrobot Redheads are a race now too?

@RobertB41188300 @eigenrobot honestly probably at least as legit as anything else considered a race the categories are pretty fake

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Thread · Bananas in Canada as a minimum bar for utopia

over the years I've sometimes described my minimum constraints for utopia as: - I get to eat bananas daily in canada - everybody's okay with how things are set up

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obviously the 2nd one is the hard one. adding the first doesn't really make it any *harder*. but "bananas in canada" points at a spirit of global connectedness, as opposed to collapse. abundance, not austerity. that matters.

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when saying grace, I often take a moment to appreciate all of the hundreds or thousands of people (or more?!) who did *something* that helped the food I'm eating get to me imagining a dozen countries on my plate. thank the supply chain everythingstudies.com/2021/12/20/tha…

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Replying to Daemonic is Gendlinmaxxing 🤑 @daemonhugger ·

Knowing what you value — and what your values are — isn’t something to take for granted. If you’re clear on yours, I’m curious: What has helped you the most to find clarity about what matters to you?

@daemonhugger paying close attention and making choices slowly

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Against Method by Feyerabend is bedtime reading for me & @utotranslucence these days > The only principle that does not inhibit progress is: anything goes. Here's the basic structure of the argument (each of these gets a chapter! very cool book structure.)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

whatcha reading, books-wise?

@visakanv

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Against Method by Feyerabend is bedtime reading for me & @utotranslucence these days > The only principle that does not inhibit progress is: anything goes. Here's the basic structure of the argument (each of these gets a chapter! very cool book structure.)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean same!

quoting @visakanv: I’m always amazed at how produce from all over the planet ends up in my local supermarket. It’s a true marvel of global supply chains Ecuador Egypt Australia South Africa https://t.co/ghjne4LJVO

@visakanv oh yeah I remember doing that with you when we went to the grocery store together in Singapore haha

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Replying to Abstract Fairy @AbstractFairy ·

@yashkaf straight from the drafts

@AbstractFairy @yashkaf nice

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

increasingly appreciating "cucked" as meaning "you unwittingly let someone else swap their values/perceptions/models in instead of yours"

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Replying to Markov @MarkovMagnifico ·

TIL about "wug tests" designed to test language development in kids and they're so cute 🥺🥺🥺

[3 more photos]

@MarkovMagnifico

Gretchen McCulloch now at @gretchenmcc.bsky.social @GretchenAMcC ·

Ladies, if he: -doesn't text back -is a wug -now there's another one -there are two of them He isn't your man, there are two ____.

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"content" was a term invented by advertisers to refer to "that which is not ads, in and around which ads can be inserted" don't think of your own writing or videos this way, if you consider it the main event

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Replying to Jonny Miller @jonnym1ller ·

What if instead of creators pushing 'content' we were collectively offering our unique contribution to the shared public record of the commons for future generations? Different vibes ;)

@jonnym1ller

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"content" was a term invented by advertisers to refer to "that which is not ads, in and around which ads can be inserted" don't think of your own writing or videos this way, if you consider it the main event

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Replying to Peter Schmidt-Nielsen @ptrschmdtnlsn ·

@Watercressed @Duderichy What about expressing the mole as 6.02214076*10^23 s^0 m^0 kg^0 A^0 K^0? It seems like it's fine for it to be a derived unit.

@ptrschmdtnlsn @Watercressed @Duderichy yeah seems like it used to be a "how to calculate" kind of deal then they realized it would be better if they did a bit of ontological remodeling and just fixed the number twitter.com/aap_twak/statu…

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can someone more familiar with Macs tell me how to have Recents in Finder *actually* show my recent files? it shows some but like, when I save an image from the internet it's not there. wtf

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Replying to eash @eashankotha ·

@Malcolm_Ocean That’s weird? I feel like my screenshots show up in recents when I take them. Are your recents being sorted by “Date Added” or “Date Last Opened?” If not, maybe they’re getting tossed into Downloads folder by default, and it’s a quirky bug

@eashankotha screenshots are one of the only things that is showing up in there, but [right-click -> save image as] does not

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Replying to Duncan Cock Foster @dccockfoster ·

Any good materials/blog posts on how companies that managed to turn their name into a noun/verb did it? Like Venmo, Uber, Airbnb, etc. how did they pull it off?

@dccockfoster idk but I'm interested! guessing it's a mix of: - the word itself feels verbable - one obvious thing that the verb would mean - enough critical mass I recently renamed my app so it's name already *is* a verb: @IntendApp, but that may end up less actually-verbed like Lyft tbh

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Replying to Duncan Cock Foster @dccockfoster ·

Any good materials/blog posts on how companies that managed to turn their name into a noun/verb did it? Like Venmo, Uber, Airbnb, etc. how did they pull it off?

@dccockfoster I don't particularly think this post is good as advice* but it's an interesting exploration of dimensions of names and it notes verbability as one dimension *in part because it doesn't accurately answer how well certain names do at certain dimensions messymatters.com/nominology/

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Replying to Sahil Lavingia @shl ·

Hiring a marketer

quoting @gumroad: Use Gumroad

@shl me reading this at 2am: ...use gumroad... to hire a marketer... got it.

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replace "ego death" with "ego reboot" ✅ less scary ✅ more accurate ✅ gives appropriate intuitions for the benefits of doing it regularly ✅ doesn't imply you could (or should try to) function in a society with your ego off all the time jfc

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

people should have as many different names as they want/like. overindexing on one’s government name is a kind of death

@visakanv people many years ago: "is Malcolm Ocean your real name?" me at the time: "well it's facebook official"

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Replying to River Kenna @the_wilderless ·

I tweeted this a couple minutes ago, and it's not showing up on my timeline, browser, or mobile app, only on the Mac app i tweeted it from ...is twitter literally just disappearing tweets that tag the forbidden article site?

@the_wilderless wow yeah can't find it anywhere this is indeed immature/insecure. vibes weak. I remember in 2013 twitter stopped previewing instagram images because they wanted people to tweet the images directly on twitter rather than linking over, but idk let the users do what they want

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Replying to Forth ❤️‍🔥 @forthrighter ·

whatever your childhood was, it was what it was. Relative comparisons don't help: not great not awful, it was yours, it was unique/singular. It's the first pages of a story you haven't fully written, advantage, and heavy burden all in one What's next? You choose.

@forthrighter other relevant questions: - how do I feel when I think about my childhood? - what do I miss from my childhood? - what do I *not* miss? - what secrets hide in my backstory waiting to be leveraged?

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Retweeted @connormcmk

what's the name for the category that contains genes, memes, and quines?

Replying to Connor McCormick @connormcmk ·

what's the name for the category that contains genes, memes, and quines?

@connormcmk oooh yeah, gq! riffing, without assuming a pithy word already exists (it may well not! "meme" was coined by analogy with "gene" only 50 years ago, so the need to go up one level of abstraction didn't exist before then. "gene" is only ~100y old!) "unit of evolution/selection"

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@connormcmk Dawkins' conscious design of "meme" was brilliant, and part of why it took off. intuitively you know it's the same part of speech as "gene" which suggests that in coining the more general term we should seek one with similar grammar genetic/memetic/_e_etic -eme means "unit"

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@connormcmk since "-eme" means "unit", that'll probably work best. riffing on "evolve": - veme - vleme - leme - eveme - evleme - elveme - olveme - exeme - xeme - zeme I think veme and eveme are best here.

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whew, really satisfying podcasty convo w @dkazand just now best deep dive into the philosophy of @IntendApp I've done on record yet, feeling into some stuff at my own edges and remixing it main insight: instead of "goal-setting"... goal-allowing!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I am coming to the conclusion that everything I was trying to get myself to do is better approached by exploring how to allow myself to do it 😤✋❌ how do I get myself to do the thing? 😎👉✅ how do I allow myself to do the thing?

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Replying to Connor McCormick @connormcmk ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Maybe it's just "eme" and in general "emes". The abstract unit of replication

@connormcmk I thought of that—it's not bad. sort of highlights the evolutionary quality of everything actually yeah! like if we consider other things with -eme suffix, a lot of theme also get remixed! phoneme lexeme morpheme etc (the suffix is largely used in linguistics *anyway*)

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Replying to la fête @asemic_horizon ·

@Malcolm_Ocean The idea of a computer reboot is to bring it back to a previous working state. Ego death should be scary.

@asemic_horizon you can't boot the same computer twice

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Retweeted @vincent_yc_li

replace "ego death" with "ego gets little forehead kiss" ✅cute n warm ✅the motion is one of relaxing and surrender, lik…

Replying to vincent @vincent_yc_li ·

replace "ego death" with "ego gets little forehead kiss" ✅cute n warm ✅the motion is one of relaxing and surrender, like you do to the forehead kiss ✅most problems with the ego can be melted with close attention and love, which the forehead kiss encapsulates ✅is not neurotic

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: replace "ego death" with "ego reboot" ✅ less scary ✅ more accurate ✅ gives appropriate intuitions for the benefits of doing it regularly ✅ doesn't imply you could (or should try to) function in a society with your ego off all the time jfc

@vincent_yc_li love it

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Replying to oaksprout @oak_sprout ·

@Malcolm_Ocean - reduces sense of "wait, shit, I must be doing this wrong" when the ego does inevitably end up coming back online ??

@oak_sprout yesssssss

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Replying to anatoliy lotkov @AnatoliyLotkov ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Are you sure your ego boot loader doesn’t have any bugs?

@AnatoliyLotkov of course it does, but it probably has fewer bugs than it did last time, and in any case rebooting is a good way to get more info on that

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Thread · How the 'consent violation' frame amplifies mild discomfort

having reflected on this a couple times, I'm concluding the issue is one of categorization betrayals of trust are scary because you then generalize to "they might do it again" and if "it" is "violate my consent" then that's scary, whereas if "it" is just "sleep bj" nbd t.co/CQBAMiqQ51

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by conceiving of this event as "consent violation" (just one way to conceive of it!) there's a whole frame invoked which suggests that the gf is a "consent violator" in some more general sense but maybe she's just a sneak-sleep-fellator & that's ok by u!

Jakeup @myhandle ·

it's not only posting your intimate drama to reddit, which is kinda crazy. the very framework of consent is something you mostly need to justify your sex having to outsiders who have no context, an impersonal jury. it's not the framework you want with a partner of three years

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the convo this dude needs to have with his gf: - there was something uncomfortable simply about the surprise & confusion & unfamiliarity, nbd but I want that held - I'm down for you to do it again tho - but now part of me is worried you'll do X or Y without asking... & plz don't

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and if he can't trust that she wouldn't accept such a request, THEN he's got an issue but otherwise it all seems fine my guess is that the "consent" narrative dramatically amplified what would have been mild discomfort otherwise, which caused panic or something

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Retweeted @connerdelights

"The goal is not to digest information, but to layer over your reality with a fresh coat of moss." beautiful https://t…

Replying to Andrew Conner @connerdelights ·

"The goal is not to digest information, but to layer over your reality with a fresh coat of moss." beautiful

quoting @simonsarris: Reading Well https://t.co/0q7iFSmWfw

@connerdelights good timing I've just listened to ep19-20 of Vervaeke's Awakening From The Meaning Crisis where he talks about the shift from reading as participatory embodied act to reading as "getting information" and its effect on spirituality

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Replying to Loopy @strangestloop ·

Could we tweet in the comments of a youtube video? Just to see what happens. Let meet in the comments of this @visakanv video. Write a comment / reply with something related to the video or inkloreVlogs's helpful summary. See you there! youtu.be/8hqgKBZVJ20

@strangestloop @visakanv into this tho might be easier to meme into existence with a shorter video

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @dkazand @IntendApp u have my attention a tedious puzzle I often semi-wrangle with is how… it’s kind of obvious that the spaces in which I could probably experience the most relief, are the most knotted and tangled in ways that are difficult for me to do anything with

@visakanv @dkazand @IntendApp hmmm... give an example? tho I'm sure it connects to everything else 😅

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

and some part of me when I hear anything like goal setting, crafting, etc, tunes out because I feel like I already have an overwhelming surplus of that stuff. though this might actually be a separate tangle

@visakanv yeah the surplus is the problem your many competing goals (implicit or explicit) are inhibiting your other ones, and what you need is to figure out which ones you really want to allow

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

goal-setting is additive goal-allowing is subtractive

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Replying to —— @itinerantfog ·

@Malcolm_Ocean identifying with everything everywhere all at once and identifying with nothing read as the same to me

@itinerantfog twitter.com/abhayance/stat…

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Replying to 🎃 Mark 👻 🟡⚪️🟣⚫️ @meditationstuff ·

👀

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: replace "ego death" with "ego reboot" ✅ less scary ✅ more accurate ✅ gives appropriate intuitions for the benefits of doing it regularly ✅ doesn't imply you could (or should try to) function in a society with your ego off all the time jfc

@meditationstuff curious what you make of this!

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Replying to Rob Haisfield @RobertHaisfield ·

@karma_gardener @Malcolm_Ocean Yup, use a smart folder for it

@RobertHaisfield @karma_gardener ahhh and downloading doesn't count as modifying can you describe what search to use for it? not sure what to query

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Replying to eash @eashankotha ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Ah, okay. Yeah, you’d probably have to select the recents folder when saving as and then open the file/image at least once if you want it to show up in recents.

@eashankotha wait you're kidding right? the whole point of recents is it's not a folder it's just all the most recent files whereever you put them, so you can download it to one place for long-term, but then immediately grab it from recents to use it right now for something

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean huh, I just had a hammer-drop of an insight into categorization the point of the qt generalizes to *all* cognitive categories and that has um Implications related to the "entropy isn't real" argument I saw a while back too x.com/aleksil79/stat…

@aleksil79 whoa wait what? entropy isn't real?

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Replying to Imp @imperialauditor ·

i wonder if there's a theory of agent-principal problems ie what to do if you are the agent receiving orders that sound good in the abstract but get nasty in the implementation eg @vgr 's The Office example: "check those guys out" -> "do industrial espionage"

@imperialauditor @vgr seems somewhat adjacent to Moral Mazes I haven't read the book but @TheZvi's summary is quite good. thezvi.wordpress.com/2020/05/23/maz…

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these matching couple outfits are so adorable (source: this etsy store etsy.com/ca/shop/LovitX…)

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Replying to Aleksi Liimatainen @aleksil79 ·

@Malcolm_Ocean the way entropy is defined, it's an artifact of the chosen system of measurement in general the intuitive quality that seems to agree with the concept of entropy is relative to the perceptions and goals of the agent observing it which rhymes pretty hard with the insight above

@aleksil79 whoa, huh this is making me think of the interface theory of perception... have you checked it out? it highlights how "objective" things we measure might still in some sense be things that are only true in terms of human-like and human-compatible interfaces

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poking at DNA stuff and I find it really beautiful how both the matrilineal and patrilineal lines have a special way to trace them, via Mitochrondrial DNA and Y-DNA respectively + haplogroups who trace back to a single common ancestor in each way

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what is the natural relationship between task management & product management?

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> I concluded from these experiences that gender identity is a property of objects, not subjects. fascinating. interesting stuff about selfness here unstableontology.com/2023/02/07/am-…

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why do some forms of discrimination get called "___ism" and some get called "_________phobia"?

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You're a vendor at the Interplanetary Farmers Market tell us about your booth! where are you from? what are you selling?

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facebook is still facebook twitter is still twitter don't let rebrands work if they're stupid

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Barbie in the streets Oppenheimer in the sheets

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can you spot the noble truth? 👀

Intend (12/100 threads) @IntendApp ·

plans are fine but unrealistic plans are a recipe for suffering ...and most people don't know how to make realistic plans in the first place (longer than a few hours or days) or to proactively notice when reality & plan have diverged, and adjust

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Retweeted @IntendApp

plans are fine but unrealistic plans are a recipe for suffering ...and most people don't know how to make realistic plans…

what is the natural relationship between task management & project management?

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"I am free to be decisive insofar as I am willing and able to listen" . malcolmocean.com/2023/03/art-is…

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Retweeted @IntendApp

Thread about Complice→Intend rebrand TL;DR 1. “Complice” was a weird not-quite-a-word, that nobody could pronounce or spell…

okay #roamcult I am experimenting with more desktop-based workflows rather than browser-based please tell me there's a way to instantly switch between graphs using a hotkey. I have many. alternatively, can I install multiple instances of the Roam app on MacOS?

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the AI equivalent of someone shouting "I'm not angry or defensive!!" ...proving my point precisely.

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fractal pomodoros malcolmocean.com/2021/07/fracta…

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Retweeted @AbstractFairy

100% sure this was the source of some myth back in the day

Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

Teach your kids about thought experiments before someone else does.

anybody else get "suspicious app" alert from Google after installing Arc? guessing it's related to eg the calendar preview feature or something.

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what's my justification for not being playful?

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Replying to fangmeli @pangmeli ·

do I strap? yeah baby I strap

@pangmeli are these good? I got something much more complicated once and it didn't really work. a whole brace thingy also I've been getting intrigued by thefootcollective.com

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just found myself wishing mosquitoes didn't exist then briefly noted that ofc if they *never* had I wouldn't know how much I appreciate that they didn't so now I'm uhh taking a moment to appreciate all the godawful kinds of hypothetical worse bugs that I don't have to deal with

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have been idly wondering for years how it's possible for species to evolve into having different numbers of chromosomes, and finally did a thorough enough search to find this answer quora.com/How-does-a-spe…

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Key insight for me was that chromosomes aren't like... automatically paired, they pair themselves up based on mutual recognition, thus fusion (or splitting) is actually a relatively minor event, not something that immediately leads to interfertility problems. A & B pair with AB

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Replying to Faizur Rehman @fazurrehman ·

Lately, I've been enjoying the ARC browser but I think the UX could be improved. It's a hassle to open a new tab since I prefer full screen and maybe you too? It is a bit challenging to go left and click on a new tab. I think? Adding a fixed tab button on the top would enhance

@fazurrehman definitely nudging people towards ctrl/cmd T is the way to go here. if you want an instant / hassle-free new tab, that's the way to do it. no need for more buttons! clicking any button is a hassle from my perspective

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is there any way to use the Arc browser to install progressive web apps? I don't see it desktop apps hasn't usually been my vibe but I'm getting into it as a way to deal with macOS's terrible space management cc @browsercompany @arcinternet

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

okay #roamcult I am experimenting with more desktop-based workflows rather than browser-based please tell me there's a way to instantly switch between graphs using a hotkey. I have many. alternatively, can I install multiple instances of the Roam app on MacOS?

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Retweeted @RichDecibels

21st century competence: learning to think like a super-organism /super-intelligence I have some ways of seeing that hel…

Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

easy level: practice seeing the super-organism that is any group of people. watch clusters of ppl walking down the street, note the surface tension of their shared boundary. see how how clusters interact when they meet each other (seldom interpenetrating)

@RichDecibels or see the superorganism that is a city! autotranslucence.com/2018/06/27/as-…

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

21st century competence: learning to think like a super-organism /super-intelligence I have some ways of seeing that help with this, I wonder if anyone else has some more to add to this list

@RichDecibels

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@selfprime HARD MODE: BECOME A MULTI-PERSON INDIVIDUAL (I jest but also I am sort of working on this full-time, depending on how you construe it)

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

seeing like a super-organism is mega useful, it's the best way to answer "what should I do?" well, what are you a part of? what role are you suited for? listen for subtle signals from higher beings, they're present as surely as your muscles receive electrical impulses all day

@RichDecibels I have a thread on this!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

new experiment I'm playing with:   surrender to some We/Whole that I'm part of   & do whatever it tells me to this is a mental shift, to be clear—no *individual* gets to tell me what to do (tho i cud ask). & my own desires are part of what that We is for, & need to be included!

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Thread · Experimenting with surrendering to a chosen larger Whole · 1 of 6 tweets

very relevant tweet from a somewhat relevant thread

Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

seeing like a super-organism is mega useful, it's the best way to answer "what should I do?" well, what are you a part of? what role are you suited for? listen for subtle signals from higher beings, they're present as surely as your muscles receive electrical impulses all day

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

lotta people freaking out about AI as if it's our first super-organism. learn to see the everyday super-organisms already everywhere around us and you'll have an intuitive sense of what's coming

@RichDecibels example of this? do you mean "larger than human intelligence" here or something more specific? my sense is that a lot of the source of the AI freak out isn't adequately captured by "as if it's our first superorganism" so maybe you mean a specific subset?

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Replying to Sytse Wielinga @sbwielinga ·

@RichDecibels next level: how to flirt with super-organisms

@sbwielinga @RichDecibels trying to get hired by a company is kind of this!

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Replying to Richard D. Bartlett @RichDecibels ·

21st century competence: learning to think like a super-organism /super-intelligence I have some ways of seeing that help with this, I wonder if anyone else has some more to add to this list

@RichDecibels I've recently been finding "superego" as a super helpful concept for modeling some of these dynamics!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

don't ever let memes tell you: - that more suffering is better than less (for you or others) - things that contradict your own senses - that you aren't free to relax FULLY for even a single moment if you accidentally let memes do this, flush superego with cold water immediately

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