June 2022
@Morphenius I suppose I might if I counted 'er factuals!
Replying to @baleatoric
@baleatoric the normie way would be "watch movies / read books / listen to songs together that feature romantic relationships, and talk about which ones appeal" plenty of ways to get nerdier or more vulnerable about it but yeah
Thread · A goal framework contra SMART, plus the CSI approach · 4 of 6 tweets
@VividVoid_ here's our framework for goals, which is pretty contra SMART this is just saying "what is a goal"; doesn't directly say what makes a goal well-defined
@VividVoid_ notably absent are several of the items from SMART:
@VividVoid_ I made a thread describing why the 5 elements mentioned above are vital for having a goal
@VividVoid_ and then I did another thread about why I don't think due dates, numerical metrics, or states of finality are required, how they can mess you up, and why/how you might want them anyway so directly addressing SMART
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Has anyone improved on the SMART goal framework? I want to go a little bit meta on goal setting practice. Has anyone done a…
Thread · A goal framework contra SMART, plus the CSI approach · 1 of 6 tweets
@VividVoid_ as for what makes goals *good*, we use something called CSI Approach, a little-known framework that we got from Nick Winter's book The Motivation Hacker and I think he cites Piers Steel Challenging (not default) Specific Immediate (can start now) Approach-oriented (vs avoid)
@r_ganesh @VividVoid_ @ScottAdamsSays @ShaneAParrish @JamesClear (here's my take on why you can't do without goals—not just "mustn't" but how it's literally impossible and you're better off not pretending)
@huggingpuppy I would say so, yeah. For me at least. Otherwise I get tangled up in paragraphs and bogged down. For people who like doing research more, or for whom research is part of their workflow, I could imagine blogging being better for edgy stuff.
@VitalPixel @RizomaSchool @Jarsen Mmm could get the crew to raise a physical barn then launch an online business during the same visit :P
@RizomaSchool I was thinking about something like this just yesterday, as I reflected while unloading a uhaul that my main uhaul experiences were burning man, and wished to have a burn-like event where everything wasn't torn down at the end
@brother_nin @RenshinLee @m_ashcroft yeah I see an inner conflict here and an assumption of what the solution to the inner conflict looks like rather than a being-with-the-unknown of how it might resolve which inclines me to distrust the frame being offered
@AskYatharth @LordChisholm and I were being silly on the ferry yesterday
In a sense, modern humans are almost never alone. Classically, alone implied not just "nobody beside me" but "nobody reachable". No option to start a conversation. I had a long walk a few months ago with no (workable) phone, & it was so different! I've started doing it more 🚶♀️
@s0ulDirect0r niiiiiice it's seriously good
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance yup, it's working I can hear you in the back
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@Malcolm_Ocean @VividVoid_ @ScottAdamsSays @ShaneAParrish @JamesClear Many important points are forcefully presented by dismi…
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@ricvolpe @Malcolm_Ocean and me are getting closer to releasing our little side project "❤️ SpaceTime" - the travel map…
@BlackForestBoi @ricvolpe I have no idea why it thinks International Free Hugs Day is in Georgia. Here's what my gcal event for it looks like:
@nosilverv I think you could intervene not specifically on people but on "only model things when there's a problem" like thing? get curious about thing! how thing good? why thing good? how thing become good? what good about thing? how thing synergize with other good thing?
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@jasonwallerphd @KemtrupTweets I'll try (I'm not a therapist) To process an emotion is to allow its sensations to mov…
@utotranslucence @jasonwallerphd @KemtrupTweets I've sometimes analogized this as "you know when you get interrupted mid-story and then the conversation moves on but you're preoccupied with wanting to finish telling your story? it's like that but for your amygdala"
@Human__Age @jasonwallerphd seems very deeply relevant bringing cordoned-off feelings into consciousness so they can reconnect with everything else & reconsolidate
My friend @utotranslucence is looking to interview people who've successfully managed psych crises (eg bipolar episodes) in order to find commonalities in peoples' successes to share this wisdom with others. Article on why she's taking this approach psychcrisis.substack.com/p/introducing-…
and go here if you want to talk to her about your lived expertise from navigating those challenging moments and developing resilience in your life:
just scrolled back through 4y of history of fb messenger chats—not the content of the chats, just the list of all chats I've had in the last 4y, sorted by latest message ofc striking to see the history of what was going on then, who I fell out of touch with or switched mediums
Retweeted @vgr
Twitter is minimum viable something. Someday we’ll figure out what exactly.
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What's a small, seemingly trivial problem that has been taking up an unreasonable amount of your attention in the last few months?…
Retweeted @rhymeswithvocal
u gotta be dancemaxxing. you gotta be swaying and strutting around the kitchen while making lunch. you gotta be puttin…
“To let that which shows itself be seen for itself in the very way which it shows itself from itself.” = Heidegger's articulation of the meaning of phenomenology. I love this. It reminds me of:
got a refund to a credit card I'd cancelled 3mo ago statement in the mail CR $207 walked into the bank branch and was like "hi please hand me cash equal to what this letter you sent says you owe me" and they were like "sir this is a bureaucracy" they've gotta mail a cheque smgdh
sir this is a bureaucracy
realized this guy should be a standalone
this is a classic issue, at least in canada the banking and credit card systems are completely separate in terms of customer service etc etc, even when under the same brand encountering it again rn with a completely different bank
Retweeted @utotranslucence
Something so tricksy about certain mental states that perpetuate their own dysfunction via some kind of internal motiv…
@utotranslucence @jessamyn yeah, positive feedback loop can be caused by resisting/fighting the thing which happens in political policy too, come to think of it
@hormeze (speaking from theory more than experience here) try to separate the experiences from the generalizations formed thereof like a bunch of stuff happened to you that resulted in body shame… what is the shame saying those experiences imply? how do u know?
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth "hi, wanna fall in love?"
@tasshinfogleman most polite maybe, but not best I use an equals sign between both times I also think there are many other heuristics for using only your own timezone (eg if the other is travelling, or they happen to be very familiar with your tz but not vv)
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance You are everything figuring out everything.
Retweeted @nosilverv
Varieties of sex: Good Bad Mediocre Mind-blowing Life-changing Boring Lame Dissociated Numb Sad Stressed Anxious Rushed To…
@mingledao figuring out why things went the way they did
Retweeted @CompliceGoals
some things actually are worth forgetting
had a marketing consult with @visakanv a few weeks ago, and one of the things we came up with was having the @CompliceGoals account tweet a bunch more, from its perspective including lil pithy guys like this that can be reused in future threads
@visakanv @CompliceGoals yeah totally also cool to see it as an example of something that already could have been threaded into a situation where someone asked for Complice's take on something:
@visakanv @CompliceGoals as it was, Complice replied with this longer thing:
@visakanv @StupendousGrav1 @LordChisholm incidentally, I'm 24 videos in and still haven't made one directly about complice. I've been meaning to, but hmm
@visakanv @StupendousGrav1 @LordChisholm now I'm imagining getting a purple helmet and making a video as Chompy 🤣 blog.complice.co/post/148019385…
@katrinadlc you need to be prepared for the reality that how the person's behavior appears to you may actually be quite hard for them to map onto their internal experience
Retweeted @TheShudraWay
@Malcolm_Ocean @RizomaSchool Building Man needs to become a thing.
Replying to @alasdairtweets
@alasdairtweets I have a friend or two where our last message on fb was so awkward or tense that I just stopped being friends with them until we met again on twitter 😅 because I didn't want to poke the old history again
@VitalPixel @RizomaSchool @Jarsen oh very cool are you working on local currencies? I know a guy doing some experimentation with stuff like that
this double pendulum is so pretty the circle just wow gives it a whole different feel
@SSS_music @utotranslucence "feed on itself" sounds like a positive feedback loop to me but yeah this is well put
@jonnym1ller mmm, I like the idea of consciously holding something until the right moment, as an alternative to repression if it initially arises in a moment that isn't right for feeling it
@khemaridh @jonnym1ller reminded me of this:
@p_millerd me I've been writing about self-authorship since I was 22 and have never had an indefinite full-time job
@FPallopides yeah we need win-wins, not mere convergence
@EKokemoor @velara3 @_TheGeoff @JFK_80 @gunsnrosesgirl3 I made a userscript to nuke those ?s=19 things
@jessejanderson huh I wonder if ADHD folks would have better luck learning reflexes than routines (reflexes are habits that happen in response to certain situations, vs routines that happen at particular times) malcolmocean.com/2014/05/routin…
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth sure
tried to find this tweet and it wasn't shown in the QTs so I'm leaving it here as a reply:
nebulously grrrr feeling when I sign onto twitter it's not about what's on here it's about what's not on here
@MasterTimBlais @QiaochuYuan has a good thread on the appeal of cults:
@sashintweets eg @RoamResearch got huge because it questioned a bunch of assumptions about what links are, the meaning of "notes", etc now a bunch of other apps are copying the new assumptions (& seeing some new implications) but the next innovation comes from questioning yet more assumptions
@visakanv @CompliceGoals part of the idea here is that Complice itself has a perspective, has opinions, has takes, that may not even exactly align with mine and I can just have it speak from its own voice @visakanv cracked up when I said this:
@iopred partly it's stuff that could be on here, like more projects evolving in real-time, more deep dialogues but it's also partially just like, I'm craving more face-to-face contact with only air in between, no screens
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
you can't choose to expect someone to do anything other than what you expect them to do but you can choose to let them…
who has been to Bali and can tell me what the deal is with foreigners, scooters, international driving permits, and motorcycle licenses? I've heard both that people get pulled over a lot and need to bribe police if no motorbike IDP, but also that it's nbd/fine
Thread · Variations on the zone of proximal development · 1 of 6 tweets
habitable zone of proximal development
As part of my Double Visa, I just started a "100 pithy QTable talking point tweets" challenge, and I just had a lot of fun scrolling back through my last month of tweets to see if there were any there
Acceptance = perceived level Commitment = reference level
I've started 13/100 of my 100s and I have 267/10000 items total tho 100 of those are "100 blog posts" completed a long time ago (but worth counting as part of things I've done 100 of in life) and "100 what if it were good thos" which I did all on one day:
@huggingpuppy @strangestloop jeez I've really been at this awhile (offered 100 strangers hugs during a single journey; 70 accepted) malcolmocean.com/2014/12/huggin…
@sokindling thanks, that's encouraging
@Dave_9000ish I mean I still have a bank account with them—they could have handed me a cheque at the branch and then deposited it right there (then let me withdraw cash)
@Dave_9000ish (the reason I would have preferred cash is that the closed account was USD and I didn't want to get dinged with currency conversion twice as I'm about to go to the USA)
@AskYatharth yesssss
good thread
whose error is this?
questions are not just for asking
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT
@6Tiph YES. THIS IS PART OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS TWEET
@captain_mrs nope, I just realized I'd never tweeted the headline of my ribbonfarm post from 2017 as a pithy standalone tweet ribbonfarm.com/2017/08/10/que…
sir. you have committed a counterfactual
@chenoehart I find it valuable to hear more and more people reflect that the sides of the culture war don't really feel relevant or adequate! I think it's a lot more people than are actually saying so!
@AskYatharth I would say most people are biased the other way though a lot of it seems to also be that people respond to how you're presenting the situation: "how do I make this work?" gets less "maybe leave" than "should I stay?"
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin appreciation for you sharing your journey with us
@CXGonzalez can be good I think as long as the other stuff checks out too Assuming you mean a romantic partnership, I recommend not putting immigration strain on the relationship if you can avoid it
@visakanv Yeah I would be very very surprised if it were innate. Closest would be... you have some moment of self-frustration when one part of you tries a thing and another blocks... Then this deepens somehow. But there is no absence-of-socialization, so everyone is learning how to nav
@metaLulie Umbreon
@AskYatharth a lot of procrastination is calling the bluff on "you need to do this right now"
Retweeted @RichDecibels
Twitter Is A Dating App For Making Friends here's some ideas about how to have fun on twitter dot com (this is the thre…
Retweeted @algekalipso
If you make friendship scalable, you build a superorganism.
Retweeted @visakanv
@QiaochuYuan we waste years by being unwilling to waste hours
Retweeted @hormeze
It is called a 'sense' of humor because what is funny is detected, not generated. within all things is hidden latent humorous…
@nickredmark @CompliceGoals What's your experience been like so far?
I didn't realize when I started writing this song a few months ago that it would end up feeling so topical when I posted it. But it seems there's a shared sense around here: when life gives you challenging relationship transitions, make art. youtube.com/watch?v=SaDvHT…
for the lyrics and some reflections on the song and my process, check out this blog post malcolmocean.com/2022/06/the-co…
parts of that blog post are adapted from this twitter thread in which I reflect that I wish Jason Mraz had written The Courage To Leave a decade ago
Retweeted @devonzuegel
I built a little tool – it's called Small World, and it helps you make new friends and stay in touch with old ones: https:…
Retweeted @s0ulDirect0r
let's replace 'be yourself' with 'allow yourself' in the memetic lexicon that energy is what ultimately has made the big…
"life is a meeting that could've been an email" somehow this strip feels the opposite of existential crisis to me smbc-comics.com/comic/email-2
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 25/100 - original song feels really good to have "released" this. still figuring out a pipeline to having properly mixed & mastered tracks, but this is more than just a rough cut
@metaLulie baha I don't know any of those pokemon—all after my time pretty sure and yeah, I was struck as I answered that it didn't seem like my type! intriguing. I've also been a machoke/machamp guy—here's a photo I made when I was like 13:
@signornessuno11 @AskYatharth yeah, tho importantly it's not about whether you're literally asking the question with those words, but more just like, what is the overall vibe of how you're relating to the situation?
@Morphenius @willmatheson @observing_hades @smithymusictwit @tasshinfogleman
@Morphenius @willmatheson @observing_hades @smithymusictwit @tasshinfogleman
@katrinadlc "telling the microscopic truth" curious about this!
Retweeted @nickredmark
The Sophrosyne Prayer God, grant me the mindfulness not to avoid, the kindness not to coerce, and the acceptance to stay…
@CXGonzalez yeah I've been doing this on malcolmocean.com and on my youtube (and twitter ofc) unlike @qorprate I claim nearly entirely uniqueness, which is not to say that everything I come up with isn't a remix (everything is a remix) but I rarely say anything that doesn't FEEL new
Retweeted @AskYatharth
“do you have to get the person to mistrust themselves to trust you?” that shouldn’t be necessary you can allow them to…
@AskYatharth mmm nice!
Thread · Jason Mraz's 'I Won't Give Up' as a shadow statement · 1 of 14 tweets
Update: it wasn't public at the time I wrote this thread, but I was in fact grappling with my own marital separation. And in the spirit of sharing-what's-not-working, I went and wrote The Courage To Leave myself! youtube.com/watch?v=SaDvHT…
"this is a lot like twitter" — @WHALEINFO, looking at Codex Seraphinianus
"the universe is uncaring" "um, excuse me? speaking on behalf of the universe, I care"
Retweeted @Morphenius
Same-sidedness is seeing the other as part of a system you're part of too. So non-SSness means you're seeing the other as…
Retweeted @NathanpmYoung
"What is a woman?" "In what context? Are we providing healthcare, going on a date, being friends, employing someone?"…
@QiaochuYuan Amazing remix 💯
@m_ashcroft One thing I've learned is it can be helpful to pause at this stage and say "wait, why do I feel the need to judge this perception as dumb?" Sure, it may be framed in a way that seems obviously confused, but every thought makes sense in its own terms!
@the_wilderless Then we must create a new culture.
Retweeted @meansinfinity
Is there a word for the synergistic capacity of a group?
@meansinfinity I think the word you're looking for is literally just "synergy"
I haven't yet looked into Midgley but I've heard a few people on twitter over the years express the need for more philosophers who've raised children. @QiaochuYuan @made_in_cosmos @utotranslucence @jgreenhall
Retweeted @the_wilderless
commission art commission philosophy commission research commission essays commission theology commission gatherings co…
@mikeyanderson any luck?
@m_ashcroft I'm not sure it ever occurred to me that someone needed to be a particular kind of impressive in order to have a friend vision. I feel the vision speaks for itself—if you can see it, you can see it. If you can point others at it, you can. If you can rally energy, you can.
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@m_ashcroft I'm not sure it ever occurred to me that someone needed to be a particular kind of impressive in order to ha…
@m_ashcroft "who am I to be doing a backflip?" "idk man but you just did one and it was pretty cool!"
definitely feeling the nomad tax rn even with very welcoming & generous hosts, and a guest room not a couch... ...the amount of attention it takes to do basic stuff is a lot! plus nebulosity about where I'm going to be makes it hard to plan
@edelwax @Conaw @andy_matuschak the complice coworking rooms are sort of for this thing! mostly not oriented towards actually working together on stuff, tho you could use them like that complice.co/rooms
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Do TfT / second brain people have features for this? @Conaw @andy_matuschak @Malcolm_Ocean
@natural_hazard me last time I tried doing a survey
for me, paying close attention to the difference between "this is what I experienced" and "this is how I'm interpreting it" and "this is the generalizations I'm making from that" helps
@hormeze maybe at Naropa?
Musings on how to do basic training in coordination skills, which would also offer a context for having experiences to dialogue about as part of deepening perspective-taking. (could use eg Factorio as a playing ground instead of cooking) youtube.com/watch?v=fLSHRO…
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 26/100 - musings/ideating I tried recording a video vertically. probably mostly not gonna do that again. fun to spend a few minutes thinking out loud about what will be an emerging entire field of research and practice
Short vid reflecting on the complice.co philosophy and how it can kind of be distilled down to the question: "what now, given everything?" youtube.com/watch?v=lm2kv_…
My What If It Were Good Tho vids tend to start with annoyance. Today I had a minor annoyance at some packaging, and it reminded me I'd recently thought of a way that that packaging can be improved (could be redesigned, but also by you after you buy it!) youtube.com/watch?v=2L7oTd…
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 2 of 77 tweets
vid 27/100 - musings video & twitter are both very good for riffing on a bunch of tangentially related ideas
vid 28/100 - tiny product rant as always, there's so much room for improvement that is right there if you know how to look
ahh, while we're young, yeah let's go out and get some scars 'cause when we're older we'll wear them to tell us apart
just realized I was holding my shoulders an inch in the air I still don't know what generates that but it feels nice to let them go
@breaking2morrow not really just sat down at my computer
rawr
overheard: "so how long til your end date?" "...when do I think the world is gonna end?" "no uhh, you said you were thinking of leaving your AI safety job" ...I am back in SF.
@MJPiercello Hmmm nice. Attending to the first 2-3 points had my chest intuitively rise
Humans have similar such confusions, they're just more subtle.
@made_in_cosmos Latest song. Very proud of the lyrics, chords, and the performance. youtu.be/SaDvHT0IxBw
@visakanv collapsed awareness
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
i don't know how quickly this is happening but i hope on some reasonable timescale we're going to transition from helping…
This. cc @jasoncbenn, who is making this happen in SF. twitter.com/NomeDaBarbaria…
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
this tweet is a joke. this tweet is a shower thought. this tweet is a casual utterance for friends. this tweet is a resear…
Retweeted @captain_mrs
the lemoine/LaMDA episode is terrifying and dystopian but not in the way the guy thinks it is it's proving that AI doesn'…
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot I admire your courage. I would say I'm still exploring whether I'm a sex god and having other people own it proudly makes me feel more comfortable figuring out who I am 🙏🙏🙏
@amyliztweets Property taxes are too low. (Also they should be based on land value not the value of what's built on top of it)
Retweeted @nickcammarata
@lemonaut1 phenomenology is by some unholy miracle obscure, I have no idea why like ten percent of all content is about…
Retweeted @relic_radiation
@JLBornstein @RichDecibels I cap the internet at providing 40% of the excitement in my life. when it gets exciting en…
@JLBornstein @RichDecibels I mostly don't use Twitter on my phone (only when travelling, since I don't have my laptop open as often and I need to coordinate hangs) and I use it in browser not in app with notifications.
Not 100% sure these *are* different but I'm in favor of exploring such questions.
@the_wilderless I had covid last December (medium flu level bad) and have had no discernable impacts on my always-quite-good memory.
@acidshill @hornydiscogirl Yeah this is 😚👌
Retweeted @AskYatharth
Whatever I say— 𝘠𝘦𝘴. 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩. 𝘖𝘳 𝘮𝘢𝘺𝘣𝘦 𝘪𝘵’𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵. 𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘮 𝘪𝘵.…
Retweeted @Morphenius
Once one is embodiedly really solid about what one does and doesn't have choice over, it still makes sense to model the wor…
AGI risk is basically a projection of LH takeover
@huggingpuppy @tpotvibecamp huh, working fine for me. anyone else want to try?
@jonnym1ller @RichDecibels @kaisoapbox @m_ashcroft ah damn I won't be there til Aug 4 or so!
Replying to @SteveJSteiner
@SteveJSteiner Tools For Thought
Retweeted @the_wilderless
I really like the change from Commission to Co-Mission, for a few reasons, One of which is that it opens things up fro…
@jonathandubin @the_wilderless yesssss this is my vibe
Retweeted @stephlepp
Donella Meadows taught us that to transform complex systems, we must push leverage points up and down the scale. Which ones…
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania @m_ashcroft ahh, yeah, that makes sense. I guess I feel like there's some difference between having a vision and pursuing a vision
Dancing With Systems by Donella Meadows thesystemsthinker.com/dancing-with-s…
@stephlepp oooh the chord analogy is great. I'm not aware of Donella having any particular guidance on that front... it requires a lot of getting to know the system you're relating with... ...which her piece Dancing With Systems has some tips on!
@danshipper @m_ashcroft yeah that book is impressively exciting given how dry & academic it is. huge implications
@CXGonzalez @qorprate oh yeah, sometimes it's novel connections. it's just that I have a hard time writing anything that feels more like a summary. I've literally done it like twice ever, with things that were so short that all I was doing was condensing them further while leaving nothing out
the process of your eyes learning how to do depth perception is the same process as juxtaposition in coherence therapy or other transformational systems this and also that, which is different but still this nonetheless, that OH. I SEE.
@robbensinger both in the psychological sense, projecting one's own left-hemisphere-dominated view onto the world and onto the notion of general intelligence and in the prediction sense, seeing the future that will result if LH takeover continues unabated
yo @Conaw have you heard of @JustJamieJoyce's @SocietyLibrary? similar vibes to a lot of what I've seen you wanting to do, collecting & steelmanning different perspectives & arguments societylibrary.org/mission-vision
@visakanv @meditationstuff has a very detailed exploration of the power of the technical debt metaphor for modeling human tangles
@brianmwang @meditationstuff has an excellent detailed exploration of the power of the technical debt metaphor for modeling human tangles
@visakanv yeah I remember thinking that if I had a billion dollars I would make an epic studio for jamming & recording in so that I could go hang out there whenever I wanted ah I tweeted this:
Retweeted @clarityscape
ok so since I have a casual face account now I'm gonna talk about my face: my face has changed so much this year that th…
Retweeted @KerryLVaughan
I've recently learned that this is a *spicy* take on AI Safety: AGI labs (eg OpenAI, DeepMind, and others) are THE CAUS…
Thread · The absence of long-haired men in panels and media · 1 of 8 tweets
more long-haired men erasure smh
@chaosprime AIs don't believe programmers have long hair smh
@chaosprime ah so true someone should plug in "unusual programmer" or "eccentric programmer" and see if it manages to be a bit more divergent
@patriciamou_ you are god doing a bit
@patriciamou_ tie between - Iain McGilchrist's The Master and his Emissary - Bill Powers's Behavior: The Control of Perception both unorthodox neuroscience books that altered my perception of my perception and forever changed my relationship to my own sensemaking
realized that my main frame on what I'm doing has shifted from ~"nurturing collaborative [ie non-coercive] culture" to something more like "creating human superorganisms" it's the same puzzle, and the superorganism frame isn't new, but it's newly foregrounded
sign out of order
@NoraBateson yikes, yeah, and trust needs to be earned there are definitely individual developmental growth trajectories that are relevant, but they need to be found by each of us, for ourselves
great thread on the importance of respecting your parts' distrust when doing internal dialogue of any kind
@zaymonantonio good of the sign to let us know it's not a good sign tho
Retweeted @utotranslucence
One of the major power struggles of our era is for control of our major technologies between people who score 0 on thi…
it would be cool if zoom had a way to cluster the participants, if eg they're part of 3 different organizations could be visual proximity/arrangement, could also be a colored border or tint on people's video feeds
@johnrobb @visakanv this is extremely your jam on some level of abstraction
@beigege @deepfates @RichDecibels Deutsch seems to me to be making some hugely unqualified assumptions about minds that negate the orthogonality thesis without addressing it. His work on memetic evolution is top-notch but I wouldn't trust his thoughts on AI. (tho I agree we need to think beyond reward!)
@JakeOrthwein agree with concerns very unclear about timelines disagree with "you should panic" tone even if v little time strong sense that current human thinking capacity can't solve this ("alignment" or "coordination") and we need human superorganisms—high quality collective intelligence
@KissConscious @stephlepp this is pretty great
@deepfates @beigege @RichDecibels it's in The Beginning of Infinity, mostly some of the later chapters. I wish there were a better resource online to link to but I'm not aware of one QC and I discuss the ideas in this thread:
@JakeOrthwein idk how much it's in that post specifically but the overall EY/xrisk memeplex has a strong is geared towards bodily dysregulation equivalent to panic. I've spent years extricating it from my bodymind there's a gap and it's urgent to close it, but also:
Retweeted @ericmigi
I want a small Android 🤖 phone, but it appears that no manufacturer has the guts to make one. The only way we can change th…
@ericmigi dude thank you 🙏
Retweeted @ericmigi
Just found out David Fincher made this fantastic series of AT&T ads that I love: youtu.be/a2EgfkhC1eo. They predicted the…
If there are outliers that unlikely, your distribution IS NOT NORMAL, full stop. The first sentence is therefore NOT A FACT. You have a fat-tailed distribution, maybe more like a Cauchy distribution or maybe some other function. Grokking Non-Gaussian statistics is table stakes.
in this case, you probably don't actually have a Cauchy distribution, because iirc with a Cauchy distribution the sample mean never converges—positive and negative outliers exist that are SO FAR that when you sample them they yank the whole mean away from center
likewise with a single tailed fat-tailed power-law distribution, the mean goes to infinity this too is an approximation—you can use these to model earthquakes but in practice an earthquake can't be bigger than the size of the earth but it CAN be bigger than any we've ever seen!
@panchromaticity it does pragmatically, but the frame it's using is still inside-out
@VividVoid_ prepare a cup of hot tea to sip during the convo
@andy_matuschak Yeah! Idk if you just looked at the quote or also the article linked there, but it's one of my best pieces of writing 😊 (As measured by people telling me it brought them to tears or changed their life)
golden hour in the grass light play
Retweeted @abhayance
Been nearly 3 years of Roam and Roam-likes and TfT proliferation. Set aside features, functionality and fanciness... Brass…
@AskYatharth reminds me of this realization I had a couple months ago about self-validation youtube.com/watch?v=0bOy-3…
@grantadever if u want
Retweeted @ausstone
This piece written by @default_friend is a must read—“The real reason for our mass shootings…is that we have a nihilism probl…
@dan_abramov meeting (& subsequently moving in with) a group of people sincerely (and somewhat successfully!) aiming to live on an new cultural platform based on collaborative co-creation instead of blame & praise & coercion moving out of that meeting community in SF separation marriage
do you ever try going with the flow but there doesn't really seem to be any particular flow going?
Replying to @EatSleepCrypto
@EatSleepCrypto wait how does it imply the solution?
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ @grace_za not as much as you'd think physically even! (in addition to asymmetry in many subtler things, including use of particular neurotransmitters)
@embryosophy swing dancing
@s0ulDirect0r yessssssss
suddenly paid attention to more than the hook and realized that Say My Name by Destiny's Child is about her being on the phone with her boyfriend and issuing a really simple challenge that would be hard if he were with another woman—to say her name out loud and call her baby
idk what I thought it was about before, because it's extremely unambiguous once I pay any attention at all, but yeah. I guess I thought it was just that people like hearing people say their names, especially during sex? but it's very much not that
costly signalling, the musical
Replying to @EatSleepCrypto
@EatSleepCrypto baffling winds
Retweeted @olivertraldi
uhhhhhh
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ @Be_More_Weird When you're really close it's also usually very 3D, which this photo isn't. The loss of 3D-ness is less stark in the 2nd photo, which makes me feel like it's more accurate.
New @CoryWong & @DaveKozMusic album sounds like funk & smooth jazz made beautiful raunchy love all night and had a baby. youtu.be/QCvq8XT2oVk
@LikelyChaos @corywong @DaveKozMusic mmm, is there a double meaning or reference I'm missing?
@rmbalt @corywong @DaveKozMusic he really has been haven't watched all of it but have been getting bits and pieces when the algo decides it's time, and it's good shit
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 29/100 - silent expression
I now have a picker for who I want to tweet to! It still only has one option, but it exists. @TwitterDesign I'm really gunning for a "just my followers" option. Anyone *could* follow me and see it, but in practice it'd prevent tweets from getting taken out of context via RTs.
@visakanv hco → complice.co mcm → malcolmocean.com zrl → my zoom room url zroom → my open zoom room url eml → my email svcl → my savvycal dte → 2022-06-16 @ 14:54 ::shrug → ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <also various book links>
@embryosophy twas! I got bored of dancing with the women so I started asking the men to dance and had a lot of great switchy dances! great reprieve when I'm tired of only knowing my own moves. I can follow a much wider range than I can lead.
Replying to @tahnok
@tahnok @jasoncbenn Yup, I got hooked on #campuslyfe early! (Tho not as early as you) I'm being playful here but I'm also very sincere—KES is probably part of why "live on a campus" is a top priority for me.
Replying to @Zvorygin
@Zvorygin @AskYatharth Fyeah! Would love to hear what's clicking for you, and if you've got any follow-up questions. Could make another vid.
@captain_mrs I introduced myself at an improv retreat a few months ago with "my preferred pronouns are I/thou, but if you have to refer to me in the third person, 'he' will do"
Replying to @pli_cachete
@Tjdriii kind of like the behaviorists the methods work, demonstrably the models are a inside-out and arguably nihilistic
I watched the sunset. You can watch me watch the sunset, if you want. youtube.com/watch?v=BkbudN…
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 30/100 presence relatively less verbal, and WAY less explainy than most of my videos. I'm playing around with something here. this vid was taken moments after #29 golden hour
Replying to @ElodesM
@ElodesM yeah try it out
currently roaming and I'm annoyed there's no way to tell my phone to use roaming internet but not for streaming media like I want to be able to send messages and use maps and stuff, without accidentally straying outside downloaded music or clicking a youtube link
@panchromaticity but like, I want to be able to look at tweets on my phone, but not accidentally hit play on a youtube video that might show up in the tweets
@EashanKotha @TwitterDesign having to create it manually defeats a huge chunk of the point tho the list is right there let me use it
@captain_mrs people were like "wut?" and I was like "nvm" and they were like "no we want to know" and I was like "uhh it's kind of a Martin Buber joke..."
Retweeted @RichDecibels
imagine the ancient gods had agency but not selfconsciousness or morality, so make humans do stuff, but they're careless,…
Replying to @manipulanda
@manipulanda This is so fucking good. 🤣🤣🤣
Retweeted @RomeoStevens76
Dear boomers, the actual cost of housing is the grandchildren who will never exist.
@nosilverv agreed although learning to do this may not be straightforward and doing this well may be more about allowing sleep to happen when it's right, rather than about actively pushing it to a particular spot
@RichDecibels @embryosophy @CountJ0ecool @strangestloop I mean, coherent waves are only one kind of coherence. Within such a frame, "harmony" probably is just better. I like pointing out to people that minor chords are still harmonious!
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
i am very excited to announce Give Your Gift, a six week online program I’ll be running this year with @mary_bajorek a…
@tasshinfogleman @mary_bajorek @uberstuber omg your new profile pic is ❤️🔥
as someone with curly hair who has tried to use photoshop, frankly I'm most excited by how it was able to make realistic hair over top the new shirts
@darpyu okay so imagine being the folks working at the AI company who are in charge of pen-testing to make sure that the current public versions *cannot* be used in this way you're like, trying to make your computer put porn on the screen, at work, for your job 😂
@RichDecibels @embryosophy @CountJ0ecool @strangestloop I guess it doesn't inherently have that connotation for me, and maybe also not for the aforementioned Game B folks, and maybe that's part of the crux. I've been playing with "superorganism" and a lot of people think beehive but the thing I've in mind is A Fire Upon the Deep
@JLBornstein say more? not sure I've seen the thing with that name, tho I probably know what you're talking about
Retweeted @VividVoid_
Gm, hope you have a beautiful day today
@stephlepp You're not stuck in the economy; you *are* the economy.
@RichDecibels Ah yeah, wissen/kennen or savoir/connaître still doesn't quite cut it for distinguishing other types of knowing. Maybe a different one for each of Vervaeke's 4 Ps? propositional, procedural, perspectival, participatory We may just have to invent them.
@the_wilderless Always assumptions
@diviacaroline Absolutely. I've thought about this and I feel like we need an entire new field of omniwin game theory. In many real situations, the best outcome involves finding a completely new option that both parties prefer over the preconceived ones. Not allowed in toy problems!
@diviacaroline The answer is *always* "do the win-win thing". The hard part is *finding* the win-win thing, not doing it once you've found it. I think we could design games to help practice this. I've done a tiny bit of thinking on this.
@moonboi_ @nickcammarata I think he didn't just put the bios in directly, but designed prompts to generate images to match the bios.
@relic_radiation If you strike a chord you strike a chord! Sometimes harmonic resonance created positive feedback 🤩
Damn, learning about the BuzzFeed founder's thesis is maybe even better than when I found out that the guy who coined the concept of Filter Bubbles went on to found Upworthy. ift.tt/ZnsUcyE
@relic_radiation can I interview your pecs?
noodling on my friend's electric guitar, with a delay pedal and a whammy pedal (which is what's doing the pitch bending) pretty rough (I'm very new to electric) but I liked the groove I found and wanted to share it 🎸🎶
@nosilverv this is amazing 🤣
Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets
the pipes on this guy
this video, like almost all my videos, is downstream of Visa
but unlike the others, it's downstream of one or two of his videos in particular, where he's noodling on guitar
@oscredwin @diviacaroline yeah so I think part of the confusion here is that in reality afaict, most people often actually straightforwardly *do* care about each other's values/preferences/needs (more or less depending on their relationship) so me losing a lil and you gaining a ton can be a win for me!
@embryosophy @RichDecibels @CountJ0ecool @strangestloop I'm not sure how to parse this but I'm super interested in it! there's definitely a thing about like, you can sorta form a superorganism for only as long as it takes to complete a small task, or a conversation or there are marriage-length or multigenerational superorganisms
@RichDecibels @embryosophy @CountJ0ecool @strangestloop oh fuck yeaaahhhhh cc @Morphenius & @LordChisholm, with whom I've been jamming on this stuff
@marauders if you open the images in separate tabs and switch between them instantly, there's distinctly different hair patterns overlapping the shirt on the lower-left so the ai must be generating that
@RobertHaisfield @TwitterDesign no, WAY too weird to keep track of the aim is not to actually make it properly private, just to dramatically reduce surface area for virality
@BlackForestBoi @EashanKotha @TwitterDesign if it's a straight RT (not a QT) then it would signal-boost it among the people who can already see it, but not show it to people who can't for QTs, it would probably behave like it currently does with locked/blocked, just showing "this tweet is not visible" if you can't see it
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
@mary_bajorek @uberstuber “Tasshin finds quests for people that are the sort of thing only they can do.” — Malcolm Oce…
@panchromaticity that is the question I am always asking, yup
argh I need to do some stuff go-go-gadget pomodoro room complice.co/room/general
@TheEsteemedFox @olivertraldi @nvpkp I literally modified twitter's CSS in order to allow my memetic metabolism adequate space
me & @RhysLindmark are running a Superorganism Salon next Friday evening in SF exploring pragmatics & implications of forming larger-than-individual wholes of perception sensemaking & agency on timescales from single tasks/convos to life-long relationships DM for info
Retweeted @hormeze
hit me with your most counter-intuitive, unorthodox, creative, out-of-the-box/left field IFS moves
Amazing stuff here in the comments. Go check it out and maybe add more!
@hormeze Not that weird but: Most of my parts don't like the framing of being asked to step aside, but they're sometimes fine if I ask them to like, hang out and not get in the way. "Step aside" feels like "go away"... some abandonment.
Retweeted @visakanv
"what if the problem is the whole world" first of all, nobody is humanly capable of actually perceiving the whole world. so w…
@wholebodyprayer "I want to answer your question, and I'm not sure how to, given how it's framed. Will you work with me to find a better framing?" This is itself a bit of a frame move I guess since it puts some onus on them for ensuring the question is answerable, but I think that's fine/apt.
Sometimes laughter is the *only* medicine.
@PatrickDFarley @Morphenius Yeah you were probably missing "etymology" as the vital keyword
@ZerothAxiom Just World Fallacy Except Your Version Of Justice Is Just Shitty Zero-Sum Fairness
@the_wilderless I basically don't use singular they for this reason. If someone wants they/them pronouns I restructure my sentences to avoid having to use pronouns at all.
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa Problem is right there in the caption: he has started a war against himself and he will not stop until he has won (which means a loss for uhh *checks notes* himself)
Replying to @diviaprocessing
@diviaprocessing Huh, say more? I have thought things like this before and often been right, but maybe I'm think of something else.
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
Inside every song are already the instructions for how to dance to it. I wonder if this could be said of conversations a…
Have there been studies on how the perceived personalities or beliefs of pollers affect responses?
@AgnesCallard @robinhanson carcinisation.com/2020/12/11/sur…
Retweeted @Obliquities
People ask “do you want to ___” as a way of telling the other what they want. Stop outsourcing your desires. Try “I want t…
My female friends are nerding out about their menstrual rhythms and I am so here for it.
Retweeted @vgr
“Cognitive biases” is the most overrated idea I’ve ever encountered. Like everyone else I was impressed when I first encountered t…
Replying to @lastcontrarian
@lastcontrarian This seems like circular reasoning. It's possible to not be right wing and to care about fitness, and my nebulous subculture matches that description but so do some woo yoga hippy cultures or just like, subcultures of athletes. They just aren't actively beefing with the left.
Interesting thread for its data, though I think the "elites" concept is a bit incoherent or motte-bailey. Someone critiqued "this is just media telling masses what they want to hear" & author said "media=elites" but elsewhere he says "$$$$$=elites" and these are super different. twitter.com/lastcontrarian…
Retweeted @RichDecibels
I feel like many more people could benefit from developing awesome spreadsheet skills, but most people don't know what th…
Deep wisdom in this.
@visakanv Just had a workout, about to shower (once I close twitter 😅) then go hang out with 4 friends (new and old) sequentially. Feeling spacious and and vibrant.
Hot take: there are unconscious agendas that are opposed to the needs of the participants (memetic colonization or shadow dances) and there are unconscious agendas that are sort of paraconscious, beyond any single consciousness's fathoming but deeply wise.
@nosilverv Kinda switchboardy.
Fascinating how like 15% of the clothes in this Pride store in the Castro are totally my aesthetic, and the rest totally aren't. I wonder if the people in the store could tell I'm straight 😂 It seemed pretty clear the rest of the guys there weren't.
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa 💪 Your clarity is wind in all of our sails
I'm confused by American point-of-sale/credit-card machines. In Canada, where they were testing this tech a few years sooner, tap never requires PIN and chip/insert always does. Here it seems random when I'll need a PIN.
@RahmSJ 😂😅 That is my KN95 mask, looped around my belt for easy access without getting squished in a pocket.
@ricvolpe Whoa, fascinating take on eg the meaning of receiving a complaint/rant (which people often don't like doing even when it has nothing to do with them)
@m_ashcroft @sashachapin Feel like it needs a "shut up and take my money" option, not because that would be my answer (I am so incapable of doing online courses) but to give more space for "probably" to be a more ambiguous answer
@devonzuegel Might be true for you, but I've personally found that it's more like... wait hm.
@devonzuegel Some exploration of this idea: slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/24/sho…
@utotranslucence @TylerAlterman @QiaochuYuan some of these seem like the sort of thing you might want to play with
@frances__lorenz From like 3 tweets up in my timeline:
@embryosophy @panchromaticity @eigenrobot I hate u guys 🤣🤣
@khemaridh Don't look at prices regularly. Spend a chunk of time and make any decisions/moves you need to, but then go pay attention to other stuff.
@strangestloop As a lover, the way they melt into my arms when they feel held. More generally, there's also a subtle sense I have of a particular feminine flavor of curiosity, that I love.
"physical portmanteau"
Retweeted @xuenay
I like this framing of (some forms of) unconscious resistance as an active ongoing loyalty to a family system As opposed to ju…
Retweeted @liminal_warmth
Starting today, I will provide a problem of the day each day for people to solve, as long as the prior one has been suc…
@myceliummage @natural_hazard @utotranslucence ran a circus @RomeoStevens76 made Mealsquares (meal-replacement bar) @rasoolr is involved with various companies that sell things @visakanv sold funny t-shirts
Replying to @peakexperiments
@peakexperiments I... am pretty damn sure it varies with the same card, which only does debit (it's a @transferwise borderless card)
Replying to @lastcontrarian
@lastcontrarian Okay that's at least a consistent take. Thanks for clarifying. I'm still not at all sure it's remotely this premeditated though; lots of other simpler forcing functions that could generate what we're seeing.
@JeffreyBiles @nosilverv My thought too 😂
iirc play is especially important for new pathways, vs refining existing ones twitter.com/SNeurotypicals…
Replying to @rohitshindein
@rohitshindein @liminal_warmth @Tjdriii empirically I'm pretty sure cities are (and have nearly always been) growing relative to rural areas, so I think we have to conclude "most people prefer to stay back in cities" in that sense however, this could be "can't find work outside city", not aesthetic pref to stay
Retweeted @_ali_taylor
when you're single, how do you balance building a great life for yourself, with ensuring the life you build is flexible en…
@deepfates @mechanical_monk reminds me of how if someone turns the lights off while I'm eating, I sometimes joke that eating in the dark is hard because I can't see my mouth
@deepfates @mechanical_monk which is to say I don't even think you need vision; proprioception will do I've definitely taken my contacts *out* in a pitch-black room; in practice there's always some light when I'm putting them in but I don't think it's necessary for me
Retweeted @alyssamvance
My strongest political belief isn't really liberal or conservative. It's that most people, laws, and institutions in the…
@CXGonzalez @exGenesis yeah I think it is the wrong Q
@CXGonzalez @exGenesis as far as I can tell, this is at least true among people who have any sense of friendship/family/mutual care and probably for the rest, the challenge is mostly still just "how do you in fact sync", not the other thing when you're sync'd, solution doesn't feel like compromise
@CXGonzalez @exGenesis eg if we're out canoeing and there's a wave and your sandwich falls in the lake, I'm gonna share half of mine with you, and this isn't a compromise it's just the best solution for caring for our two-person system that needs fuel & ease to complete the trip many such cases
@CXGonzalez @exGenesis this isn't sacrifice either
moods with which I engage with my public roam (intertwingled.blog) 💡 jotting down notes/links from a call or idea or something I read 🤔 drafting a longer thing 🔍 seeking a draft to turn into a blogpost 🙃 just hanging out, beholding, exploring, playing, reflecting
huh. bluffing-ultimatums can produce unconscious compromises, because it encourages people/orgs to accept deals that aren't win-wins or lost opportunities because rejection of ultimatum means now the other possibility isn't available
Retweeted @TfTHacker
4/ One of the best: @OmniOutliner. Still available today for Mac & iOS. Always sad they didn't go web, missed opportunity.…
eg a company says "we have X position, full-time" and someone applies and says "I'll do X but only part-time!" (but they'd actually prefer full-time over nothing) if company accepts, when they wouldn't have accepted if they'd known it was a bluff, they've sort of lost something
if the company rejects, by default the person kind of now can't come back and say "uhhh actually I would do full-time 😅" so that opportunity never happens even tho it was a preferred outcome over no employment
I'm sort of assuming here that each party has perfect knowledge of their own preferences, and the game theory dance is just happening between them in practice people & orgs have tangles that make it hard to know what they in fact would want, plus incomplete info of each other
Retweeted @olivertraldi
this one broke but resolved
please call me by my true names
(source, in a separate tweet rather than QT'd because I wanted the whole image to be more visible next to my caption) twitter.com/megalo_psychia…
what's some top tier IRL content you've seen lately?
@CXGonzalez @exGenesis from my investigations so far it seems very possible in principle though in practice may sort of not be given resource/time constraints (tho even there, a basic stance towards doing so goes a LONG way, especially in intimate relationships)
Retweeted @reasonisfun
🙋♀️ What questions do you have about non-coercion?
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
argh I need to do some stuff go-go-gadget pomodoro room complice.co/room/general
@JayMutzafi outdoor computing, nice
@rmbalt Right, yeah.
@CXGonzalez absolutely. I have dozens of favs, old & new here's a new fav:
Retweeted @PrinceVogel
Twitter I swear by the powers above DO NOT remove the heart. Nobody wants to press a thumb or an arrow when they could be…
@AskYatharth the veil is thinner for them
heart feels subjective, personal upvote feels objective, evaluative I'm happy to heart almost every tweet I read & am glad it exists... I wouldn't upvote the same way, I don't think
@hormeze yes
the dancer in me bows to the dancer in you
@RichDecibels @JLBornstein right, corollary of "divide & conquer" is "be divided and be weaker/conquerable"
@RichDecibels @JLBornstein but like, don't tho. not recommended
@eshear Hank Green did a song with only 10 words that I quite like youtube.com/watch?v=7lRldr…
Uber just notified me to say "Did you know that you've reached 100 trips with a perfect 5-star rating?" and I'm like "huh I don't believe I could have known that since I don't think I can see my own ratings anywhere"
@hormeze holy shit wow, nice
@acidshill @eigenrobot huh, this is helpful makes me see that one way to frame it is "every couple has a prenup, it's just that the default-case prenup is an extremely generic state contract that doesn't serve most people. no no-prenup option, just denial" similar vibes:
@AskYatharth @abhayance damn, with no prompt-reworking? you just put the bio straight into DALL-E?
@AskYatharth after seeing Abhay's, definitely
@TheStalwart @TenreiroDaniel /r/nottheonion
what do you imagine your bio might look like in a few years, if all goes well?
I just invented some new sentences.
@impactology I'm asking the rest of my followers, inspired by you tweeting yours like "here's Raghav's future bio, what's yours?"
struck by how sometimes the best tool for the job is not the best tool for the job in any objective sense but it's the tool you know how to use way faster/easier than anything else so in practice it's the best tool for the job given that it's you doing the job
@m_ashcroft @jonathandubin you're so close to that 100 score! just 11 more perfect rides!
I miss autodesk inventor so much got to use it for a few months during a co-op term and afaict none of the other CAD or 3D modeling tools I've used since are as powerful OR as intuitive, let alone both
Retweeted @nvpkp
a nice writing prompt tell the events of the average day in your current life; tell it with the warmth of a nostalgia you hope…
@repost_offender @Tjdriii my impression is that those core beliefs can absolutely transform under the right circumstances, in most if not all cases where by "right circumstances" I mean some sort of therapeutic process or MDMA or something, not "by being successful"
@piva_jonas as a hobbyist,,,
Replying to @tahnok
@tahnok nice, looks pretty good! oh and it's by autodesk, cool. and online. I'll check it out next time it's the moment :) tinkercad.com
Now is always a good time when it works because it means no need to schedule
"what we're working on is you, so whatever happens for you is appropriate" — @sashachapin, paraphrasing me
I used to judge people who weren't stimulation- or productivity-maxxing, and now I'm kinda like "that could actually be really cool, and would honestly be quite challenging"
Thread · Needing your predictable oscillations to be within bounds · 1 of 4 tweets
People need, in relationships or communities, to have a sense that their ordinary predictable variations/oscillations that are part of their learning process are comfortably within bounds. That swings in mood and capability that surprise nobody won't put things into jeopardy.
Retweeted @nat_sharpe_
Every person you know is running a mental simulation of you. Who is running your favorite one?
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ My mom's is pretty good.
Retweeted @DRMacIver
I feel like Internal Family Systems is grounded in a really fucking weird idea of interpersonal conflict where once you go d…
@DRMacIver I bite this bullet, tho not the way you've framed it. It's not that there aren't competing needs it's that consciousness is able to integrate them and come to overall clarity about what to do. True for groups too, just hella-hard to create group Self!
@RichDecibels @nosilverv also on it
Retweeted @meansinfinity
Think I finally figured out my frustration with woke culture… It creates such strong abstractions and, leans on them so…
@CXGonzalez Game theory as currently conceived doesn't have enough game change in it—finding win-wins.
@DRMacIver Yeah, agreed. And there's sort of like, inside-perspective surprise because you compartmentalized away your own fearful expectations, vs like, unprecedented waves that feel like "I had no idea that was possible"
Thread · Needing your predictable oscillations to be within bounds · 1 of 4 tweets
If "here we go with this again" triggers "should we end this?", that's a sign that people are in some sense in too far and/or in denial about what to expect. Promising themselves it'll be different this/next time when they have no ground to expect that.
One common pitfall in trying to create co-consciousness / IFS-Self-for-groups is having a single person (facilitator, leader, whatever) in the role of trying to ensure all ppl are heard. This is isomorphic to one part therapizing another. Self is emergent.
Retweeted @__drewface
@meansinfinity @the_wilderless If I had the power to help the people venting on Twitter, I doubt I'd feel a desire to mute…
@xuenay yeah, was loosely aware of this in a family there's obviously a sense in which the family's parents play a different kind of role but I would still say the collective Self is in the whole, not in the parent!
Thread · Needing your predictable oscillations to be within bounds · 2 of 4 tweets
closely related video I recorded last night, about honoring your own learning process youtube.com/watch?v=Wl3N0t…
related principle:
re "here we go again"
@Loster Yeah, aiming for very much the opposite of the jumpcut YouTuber style 😊 Curious what the message connects with for you! (personal or theoretical)
@__justplaying "monogamous except I do sex work on occasion for absurdly high rates"
@Kirsten3531 @__justplaying Depends on how much money you make 🙃 And also Indecent Proposal definitely failed at the "never see again" part, which is theoretically guaranteed in this thought experiment, tho in practice.......
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
i am not fucking around here it may not be clear yet how my stuff relates to giving people the skills they need to change…
@Loster Oooh yeah, the belief that you "should be intelligent enough". Well said re humane way. Might be worth tweeting that sentence on its own—I'd RT it.
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth Dude you're 🔥
yo @visakanv, an article about genius partnerships theatlantic.com/magazine/archi…
pomodoro starts now! complice.co/room/general
if you're gonna be urgent, make sure you're being urgent on the right timescale
what's a pet theory you have?
@tasshinfogleman let's do a 4h podcast convo sometime
startup idea: Afundance 🤑 real-money budgeting video game with a mechanic kind of like guitar hero but in slo-mo visualizes your upcoming expenses & inflows and helps you see if you're on track to have enough money in the right accounts to make payments on time
cool article about how Napoleon thought #EverythingIsARemix medium.com/on-human-enter…
@ryanglark I dig this. They don't exist as such, but can modify other nouns, like "Monday morning". Is that the jist or is there a deeper layer?
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@hormeze @JakeOrthwein Systems slut in the streets; qualia whore in the sheets
@qualiamechanics @hormeze @JakeOrthwein having RT'd this, I feel it prudent to link to the essay about it: hormeze.com/blog/systems-s…
TIL YouTube was originally created to be a dating site ift.tt/1mjqWOe
@visakanv so you're saying our problems are persisting because we're not framing them sufficiently as "fear + lack of collaboration"
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@Malcolm_Ocean acting in our true best interests (virtue) involves turning an eye towards the collective well being (but no…
@CXGonzalez obviously
@Guy_T_Sky nice. I could see it
@KarlHeinzHasliP I'd be very curious to see a source elaborating on this
@joaolmateus definitely
@B_Barbarian I thought most simulation theory involves our universe existing inside an even-more-complex one? but ah, this does maybe disprove the idea that we're in some simulation of the past created by future humans
@TheEgoIsMyMast1 sort of agreed! it's by far best when it's not just submitting & dominating between people but there's also an interplay with a larger whole that can be submitted to (most of the time) or dominated (on occasion, for humor or urgency)
@DreamBTC ie: 🚀burn +++carbon & release a ton more CO₂ this year → force developing better alt tech now beats ⌛️wait decades to run out of carbon, by which time things will much worse from existing & intermediate CO₂ surplus, before it's necessary to dev alt tech ...I could see it!
one of my favorite responses to my "what's a pet theory you have?" tweet I kinda buy it tbh!
here's my gloss
getting widespread support for this would involve fighting the popular notion that *suffering is good, actually* (which I believe comes from calvinism?)
@_baklon @posisum_finder you guys might like this post medium.com/@ThingMaker/in…
@PareenL exponential increase of nothing!
@altashtree definitely our concept of what sorts of rigorous explanations are possible will need to evolve to achieve this
@vivavolt yeah, something in this vein seems broadly right explains why science can't find them—subtle signals removed as part of controlling the study (tho also some bias towards remembering spookily correct hunches and forgetting weird anticipations that don't come to pass)
@zanemountcastle I mean maybe but only because we're really bad at coordinating win-win solutions instead
@protoneutype I could believe it. most of the interesting stuff happens at the edges/boundaries of systems and having tides makes the boundaries of water/land+air much larger
@heron_ghost nice
@heron_ghost also, incidentally, the purpose of mass (in the catholic sense)
some great stuff in here if anyone is bored af of their phd thesis and wants to research something else instead
@table_llc get your dog some buttons youtube.com/watch?v=z8k2up…
@mpshield90 @BecomingCritter oh snap, I've been flossing before brushing but maybe the reverse would be better
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@abhayance @the_wilderless @tom_morganKCP @Malcolm_Ocean OK I fricking LOVE this. Among the Anlo-Ewe people of West A…
@AskYatharth wow, fascinating! profits now vs profits later is exactly the thing I guess!
@vishyssoise @visakanv nice I've been getting a lot out of thinking in terms of turning different perspectives into depth perception
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What people really want:
@__justplaying oh totally what I'm saying is that you ideally want to find situations that are more stable, to the extent that's possible
haven't looked into this but it might be good. I recall @visakanv was talking about wanting better CRMish features for twitter blackmagic.so
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one way of thinking about trust is that it's the capacity of a social container to handle micro-defections in such a way a…
integrate ≈ "organize into mutually workable connection with the larger wholes of which it is part"
@amonelders that's a huge part of the puzzle! something like...
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania @DRMacIver might help to de-reify the parts and just think in terms of control systems PCT / method of levels points at how conflicting needs/wants often are utterly intractable at one level, but if you go a level up there's totally a solution
@softminus @chaosprime curious about this thread 👀
@the_wilderless yeah this was striking to me too in some ways it seems good: by being so non-prescriptive he can avoid telling anyone how to live their lives but also kinda sus
@huggingpuppy nope. can search my tweets for it or check out [[game theory]] on my roamblog roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
@nickredmark mmmm, I dig it
@AskYatharth haha neat!
cool mockup of a todo system that's fairly similar to complice.co
@tessafyi whoa, fascinating
@vincent_yc_li broad resonance with & appreciation/support for the structural things you're pointing at this thread (I'm very much the opposite—very comfy singing & dancing, and good at both—but the points you're making are really good)
@__justplaying @nvpkp hey @nibrasibn maybe we could design a UI for complice that looks basically like this? (alice lmk if you have specific critiques of the complice UI — I've been talking with nibras about making a more minimalist, aesthetically-something view)
@hormeze mmmm "with deep love-making, we understand it" reminds me of something @Morphenius was talking about today around the role of trying to understand the whole, as part of participating in collective intelligence
Retweeted @AskYatharth
the whole thing about trying to be more trustworthy is fucked we should try to be accurately untrustworthy. like why wou…
I ran a small event for a coliving community last night, and inspired by my NNTD principle about honoring distrusts and differences in trust, we invented a game where people would say "I [don't] trust the group to [xyz]" then others would share their own trust level was v cool!
This thought experiment is bad bc crime scales nonlinearly with city size. It scales superlinearly tho, so 1% criminals in a tiny town implies something WORSE than 1% criminals in NYC! (Moreover, "everybody knows" doesn't scale, & is usually illusory scapegoating at any scale)
Not surprising at all. It explains itself! Because author views envy as: > so dark and stupid and small-souled Therefore: > how deeply I bury it, the lengths I'll go to rationalize it or otherwise avoid feeling it Thus it doesn't get integrated: > And yet here it is.
@AlecStapp Big investment seems good, tho "Warp Speed" might not be the vibe to go for here 😅 Might earn more public trust with something framed as a bit more measured/thorough.
@RomeoStevens76 Data to back this:
@visakanv Heart To Break by Kim Petras Such a pure distillation of the beautiful madness of falling for someone, and very catchy. youtube.com/watch?v=WElnqa…
@visakanv Beautiful Mess by Jason Mraz An old favorite that has come back around for me youtube.com/watch?v=ECFFNK…
@captain_mrs PCT sorta answers this! Your brain says "aight we're possessed by a being that xyz" and then the other layers expound on it precisely. You can simulate that straightforwardly for yourself, in a way that trying to generate such an experience for someone else would be intractable
@TylerAlterman I have the position you mention, but I don't talk about it much. Might be a classic example of extremes being more vocal. Also some of their memes are pretty aggressive, so warning people to stay away isn't necessarily unwise even if some good memes too.
@lisatomic5 What kinds of projects do you have in mind? 🤩
@relic_radiation The difference is hard to tell from the inside (except to maybe notice & soothe panic) Trauma and expertise arguably use the same cognitive systems! I talk about that in here, dovetailing coherence therapy and naturalistic decision-making: malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
@relic_radiation Yup!
I'm working on a non-pharmacological version of this. It's slower and harder to scale, but, yeah. I've tasted ways of shifting mindset/culture so it generates daily states of high-openness & empathy.
@pragueyerrr 🔥💪 I will point out that if you get halfway through a book and it sucks, the best way to satisfy your aim here may be to get rid of it rather than finish it!
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At least in close relationships, like parenting, I unironically think that “always reward behavior you don’t like” is be…
is there literally any good true-wireless earbuds with real buttons instead of bullshit touch controls? my jabras broke and the new ones seem worse. the Bose I just bought have great ANC ofc but stupid controls