Replying to @ponekarl
@ponekarl a lil nudge to your former future-you who is now present-you, to read this again 😊
February 2021
@QiaochuYuan I've felt deeper and more mysterious with this paint-then-filter-mask-on-my-actual-face avi... maybe a little more playful, a bit less assuming strangers would have any reason to trust me since I don't look bland-friendly like my old professionalish one.
This seems like a tight parallel with the whole thing where people are like "why aren't schools teaching kids to think independently!" and it's like "uhh that's literally the opposite of what they were designed for. they were made to train factory workers". Sutra meditation...
@QiaochuYuan sry I am a flaming heterosexual
@maybegray @LordChisholm @QiaochuYuan now I'm like "hm how to introduce y'all more thoroughly" and now I'm thinking about the potential role of the experimental podcast Eric and I are working on... (we just recorded episode zero, of he and I designing the podcast, on saturday) hmmm :plotting:
@42irrationalist yesss
uhhh @QiaochuYuan I think you want a search full of ORs, then sort by Latest here's "tweets from my followers that mention one of the following words: money cashflow finance gme runway business" adjust spices to taste twitter.com/search?q=money…
@QiaochuYuan @sam_havens @quotidiania @nosilverv maybe @TwemexApp / @geoffreylitt would build this vibe explorer!
@the_wilderless @meditationstuff go for it!
@visakanv Doing another one tomorrow!
Any method makes assumptions about its level of completion. Some say: I am complete & final. Some say: I will be refined in these ways. Some say: I will be refined in any way (oops not like that! - hidden assumption) Some say: I will always be refined in ways I can't yet fathom.
@LordChisholm @QiaochuYuan @eigenrobot mmm good point although raises a question of how to perhaps make searching for new games more fun has me thinking of this article "The Metagame is the Process of Discovering its Own Constraints", though I forget how relevant it actually is
everything's interpenetrated it's either hot or it's creepy you get to decide
@visakanv fuck I am into this
Yo @RobertHaisfield have you seen this excellent punchy PDF on the relationship between games & learning? Good Video Games and Good Learning by James Paul Gee (via @LordChisholm) academiccolab.org/resources/docu…
@QiaochuYuan I learned most of the terms from a lil crypto investing I did a few years ago, skimming whatever articles I needed to understand that, and following Matt Levine's Money Stuff column
@QiaochuYuan also assume THEY might not understand the ways in which the game they're playing is fun to them!
@QiaochuYuan also "don't know how to play a more fun game" includes "don't know how to SAFELY play a more fun game" even if there's a simple confusion that could be untangled to result in safety, "it hurt itself in its confusion" is a real thing!
from /r/Memes
I'm hanging out in here for the next hour or two doing my weekly review while rocking out to the Ol' Molly Mix @Conaw mentioned a few weeks ago. soundcloud.com/user-697920353… Come join me? (You can use whatever you want for your soundtrack 😜) complice.co/room/general
Another Tuesday #TwitterDayOff tomorrow! If you're waking up Tuesday morning and just seeing this, it's not too late to hit reply and say "okay I'm gonna join you!" then sign off 🚀🤘👩🎤
tagging @visakanv @DaltonDEmery @nuanceexists @xuenay @ifIknewIdtellya @jstanotherview @RobertHaisfield @meekaale @abecedarius @m_ashcroft @acidshill who have expressed interest also shout-out to @mattgoldenberg who takes Mon-Wed off twitter so we won't see him til Thurs
@QiaochuYuan @SarahAMcManus @visakanv @bucketofkets @mechanical_monk 😙👌
@QiaochuYuan currently staying indefinitely (likely 1-4mo) at my cousin-once-removed's place on Vancouver Island, and it's kind of a trip how I've only met her like once but she's just glad for me to be here? bc fam whole different thing than when I used to couchsurf in the bay w friends
@QiaochuYuan ah I guess we're gonna contribute money for groceries, but yeah, there's still something interesting and remarkable about the experience we spent a halfhour last night talking about {her aunt = my grandmother}, who used to be full of verve but is now ultraworried
@QiaochuYuan people are working on new formats
@QiaochuYuan gotta say, you picked the 4 options decently well tho
@QiaochuYuan this is also related to this somehow I think:
@QiaochuYuan this is way more doable than most people think current economic & employment systems are fairly efficient in legible terms, and absurdly inefficient in absolute terms you can definitely export enough value to the world to feed your family without dayjob
@QiaochuYuan ...this also requires letting people pay you. (on which note: what if your mathoverflow/math.se etc profile pages had a donate / buymeacoffee.com link? idk, might get a lil ongoing flow for your past work!)
@QiaochuYuan (I suggested the services I did, not eg patreon, because that's mostly not work you're doing ongoingly, so it doesn't make as much sense to suggest people coming from that source support you ongoingly, even though some of them might, as they're getting that value ongoingly)
@nibrasibn You'd be surprised how many therapists are prohibited by their licensing from working with people out-of-state, let alone different countries. It's kind of absurd.
@OperationMoksha @QiaochuYuan > self aware growth oriented nerdy hedonists @nickcammarata definitely checks all of those boxes @visakanv is all about "friendly ambitious nerds" @conaw is the most hedonistic startup founder I know @nibrasibn is vibing & growing @AskYatharth is getting out of hand in a good way
Retweeted @nibrasibn
You're not 'choosing' to procrastinate. Likely, there are 2 or more opposing feelings inside you. Don't beat yourself up be…
@garrettjblack @QiaochuYuan you're in Seattle? sure, after the border opens I guess! (I'm currently north island tho, not in Victoria)
@QiaochuYuan excited you're joining in! you're one of the main people I'd be missing atm during the day off! 🤑
@uberstuber yessss
@Conaw @OperationMoksha @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @visakanv @nibrasibn @AskYatharth not sure how to read your tone 🙃 but in any case wanting to be clear that I mean that in a really positive way—something I admire 🤩 if I imagine anyone else having the absurd growth trajectory you've had, I imagine them headed for burnout due to forgetting to enjoy life 😬
@Conaw @OperationMoksha @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @visakanv @nibrasibn @AskYatharth "fun-loving" might be the word I actually mean here, not "hedonistic" words, man
@Neats29 I couldn't stand Tolkien for this reason. His incredibly detailed descriptions of the scenes make for amazing cinematics, where you can take it in all at once, but I ached for plot. Lots of authors I didn't have this experience with. Is there any fiction you *have* gotten into?
Retweeted @OperationMoksha
I want to follow some self aware growth oriented nerdy hedonists. Any suggestions?
@m_ashcroft Niel Fiore's book The Now Habit has a great technique called the Unschedule which is helpful for anyone trying not to have self-directed work consume their whole life. Particularly good for people writing a thesis. njlifehacks.com/the-unschedule…
okay, signing off twitter now til thursday! 🤐🙈
@ollybot_redux you can buy vapes that just have flavors in them, no drugs & blow smoke rings like I do either artificial flavors (find at local grocery store) or essential oil vapes like @mymonq
Oh and I'm gonna be in this coworking room if you want to come work with me! (Realized I announced this a bit late, so many #TwitterDayOff participants might already be in bed, but oh well.) complice.co/room/twitter-d…
@ElodesNL path is not one-dimensional people at roughly the same spot as you in some simplified sense actually know lots you don't, & vice versa (otoh they went through different stuff to get there, so...) & see this post re value of doing things *differently* sandymaguire.me/blog/2021-goal…
@kenakennedy open to seeing a less presentable messy version :)
no cleaning post desk
@QiaochuYuan @lisatomic5 yeah it's kind of a mess (I mean the thread but the reality as well) but if you click on this tweet then scroll up you'll find most of the juicy stuff there and in the branches off
@mesolude @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @acidshill @MilanGriffes for me, I wasn't susceptible to scrupulosity things, but I got a huge jagged shard of "it's not okay to feel safe" from the whole AGI fear complex, that I had to pull out a few years ago (probably still healing a bit) twitter.com/youarezera/sta…
Replying to @youarezera
@youarezera @AshtearLucca @nickcammarata @mesolude @QiaochuYuan @acidshill @MilanGriffes "Maybe never? Do more." Great article by @jessi_cata highlighting the dysfunctional nature of this structure in general, with EA as one case study 👇 unstableontology.com/2017/07/10/aga…
@QiaochuYuan porque no los tres
@QiaochuYuan 😂 I literally jot them down in my roamblog as I think of them not saying you should, to be clear something cool about leaving in first brain too
@utotranslucence @arundelo oh, you do yours flat & yaw'd?
Replying to @dendricide
@dendricide I've had this desk set-up for 6-7 years and I have recently come to call it my mechsuit. Trying to use my computer just as a laptop feels like walking naked along a highway. (I set up roughly the same configuration in many places while travelling, see 👇)
How'd others' #TwitterDayOff yesterday go? Tagging @Jorgenbo @m_ashcroft @xuenay @coponder @original_chills @uberstuber, who said they were in! And @ifIknewIdtellya @DaltonDEmery @Matthew_Sweet who liked a tweet where I tagged people.
Me & @utotranslucence debugged some bureaucracy stuff she'd been stuck on awhile, then each did pomos calling around to find pro people to help re our own stuck paperwork! idk, mostly ~back2back calls after that but was nice to not get swept away into the twitterverse in between
@AskYatharth @OperationMoksha @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @visakanv @Conaw @nibrasibn hm? (deleted tweets I'm missing?)
@Conaw @OperationMoksha @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @visakanv @nibrasibn @AskYatharth > Most hedonism extremely weak sauce Legit. ...now I'm imagining a bumper sticker or something that says "Strong Sauce Hedonism" 😂
the number of basic concepts here is... 1,2,3,4,6,+ ↔️,↕️,× ...nine. Same as our 9 distinct digits that aren't zero (which this also lacks although seems like a single | might do it)
@nibrasibn have been staring at this thing about fighting oneself for a few years. here's a bit I wrote where I'm puzzling live, albeit not with many satisfying answers: malcolmocean.com/2017/06/toward…
Retweeted @meekaale
seeing this in @CompliceGoals and feeling a cosmic sense of completion my work here is done
@pervexists69 @QiaochuYuan @lisatomic5 Hm? Not sure if you mean "cybernetic" like • "of or pertaining to digital tech, cyberspace, etc" • "of or pertaining to cybernetics, an older term for transdisciplinary systems thinking, control systems, control theory" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberneti…
What does it mean to "generate value"? Some examples of situations where a small amount of effort has huge results: 🎄 plant a tree 🚣♀️ build a boat & now you can get so many places! 😍 introduce two people who fall in love 🕗 write a script that saves hours of boredom
Those examples are designed to be proof that such a thing does happen. Sometimes the effort-to-reward ratio is less extreme. I think @paulg has an essay—ah yes. I don't agree with it all, but this section on craftsmen hits the spot. paulgraham.com/wealth.html
I wonder when & how people first realized that trees are made out of air?
@NeilThanedar (I confused some tabs and thought this tweet below was a comment on yours, and it seemed oddly apt so now I am making it so)
@Levi7hart Trees are mostly made of carbon. That carbon came from CO₂ in the air. Trees use energy from sunlight to grab carbon out of the air and assemble it into solid blocks! 🤯 (this goes for basically all plants btw not just trees)
@Levi7hart A related mind-blowing fact is that when someone loses weight by burning net calories, that weight is lost not as 💩 in the🚽, but as CO₂ expired. Literally burning fat in the sense of being the opposite chemical reaction as trees fixing carbon, although no smoke involved.
Replying to @inersphobia
@inersphobia idk I think bcd is kinda hot
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
mental illnesses aren't mental and they aren't illnesses
@QiaochuYuan "disorganized" attachment is probably one of the best named things in this general cluster wonder if most things called "mental illnesses" might be better called "disorganized X" 🤔 ADHD = "disorganized attention" OCD = "disorganized completion" NPD = "disorganized self-esteem"
@DRMacIver datapoints I've got: of the 5 people in my household at present I don't think this is particularly true of any of us, though maybe a little? but we're all in kinda weird situations. I was acutely depressed for a couple days but now am stoked.
I have a few different models actually that can explain whyyyy nobody told you how to unfold your love
.@SarahAMcManus: L/100km is such a worse unit of fuel efficiency than MPG. so verbose! me: uhh well 1L=1,000,000mm³, and 100km=100,000,000mm, so you could simplify to uhh… 0.01mm² 😁 S: not better!
@Jeanvaljean689 yeah I picked the wrong medium for my art here 😂
Talking with @QiaochuYuan & @jondubin & @quotidiania & @skorbos & @JayMutzafi about feeling feels & making money... ...and it's as-yet unclear exactly what has happened as a result but it seemed good and if nothing else I made a new mashup emoji!
@p_millerd @visakanv Visa: "this is the call that shouldn't happen" (we're literally at timezones −8, 0, +8, talking at 4pm, midnight, and 8am)
Replying to @ashleydzhang
@JamesSkon @ashleydzhang I vibe with this and one of my basic tenets is something like "if any single person says we're not done yet, we're not done yet." which is sort of a corollary of "nobody is gonna have to accept 'this is heaven' when they can tell it's not heaven."
Replying to @camiokasan
@camiokasan @ashleydzhang hi I'm here from the future to grant your extension by reminding you of this tweet again 💞
Watch this space 👁️ 👁️
@ollybot_redux @ben_r_hoffman relevant to your recent post! benjaminrosshoffman.com/the-trauma-cou…
Coding day for me Friday, so another de facto #TwitterDayOff for me! As usual, I'll be hanging out in this coworking room most of the day if you want to come do pomodoros with me! (Whether or not you're taking the day off Twitter) complice.co/room/twitter-d…
This was fun. I have the sense of me & @visakanv & @m_ashcroft hugging the earth in a lil equilateral triangle.
@utotranslucence our Canadian bugs are definitely rug-snug too
@AskYatharth both! use zoom's "dual monitor mode" set one to gallery or active & the other to your crush I also use this sometimes to look at random participants' faces full-size on stoa sessions too. People look WAY different full-size than tiny, and I feel more of a sense of presence.
@QiaochuYuan @fortelabs yeah, "argument for the value of a human life" is a type error it's like an argument that you should enjoy a piece of music or food: if the enjoyment is possible but missing, the thing to do is perhaps create the context for an enjoyable experience. but there's no *convincing*.
@QiaochuYuan @fortelabs even "inherent" feels to me a lil like "inarguable" if someone has got themselves into a tangle where they think only *some* lives have value, again the solution is not argument but *meeting and connecting with* someone. music definitely helps npr.org/2017/08/20/544…
@utotranslucence @bonnittaroy +1 for questioning the "have to". I'd say: If it's a projection from your system, then, to the extent that it's a priority to you to be free of the charge, you need to understand & untangle that. But you don't need to sort it out *now* or *with them*, &
Just found out about peakfinder.org from @SarahAMcManus (who got it from @callanbentley) and sure enough I put in the name of a BC beach I took a panorama of on wednesday and voila! same skyline!
Retweeted @dschorno
new frames! @goblinodds @maybegray
This is super good! I learn a lot from seeing QTs and users top tweets automatically on the side without having to manually pull anything up. Plus search, and lots of regular updates!
Me & @mattgoldenberg & @SarahAMcManus & Benjamin are ideating on what an Emotional Coherence-oriented workshop might look like, & we're intending to run some small experimental stuff over the next few weeks. Comment below if interested, + what's alive for you about it.
Replying to @memeticpower
@tyson_flows me
@ElodesNL @QiaochuYuan a related song from the same album about humanity's relationship with technology, afaict it contains the only time a lyric about a grocery store has made me sob viennateng.bandcamp.com/track/landsail…
@AskYatharth Standing desk ~only
@captain_mrs I was thinking maybe timpani, since you get max 4 notes at once then have to retune for others which is a subtle and difficult art. Someone has maybe done it? But on reflection this seems more like a MIDI render. youtube.com/watch?v=1JNkoW…
Replying to @qchurious
@qchurious I legit think there's a market for this. Yo @maltybegray u still have an OF?
@pervexists69 re the facade, this is a great lil vid (watch til the end) reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe…
@QiaochuYuan also on the TL today
@GeniesLoki Maybe something like, in practice values differences can be reconciled; a competent adversary would often rather collaborate than have a costly fight, especially if you're both considering long timescales. Whereas Incompetent/Good might score a bunch of own goals.
Retweeted @uncatherio
🤔 conjecture: x-risk memespace makes the mistake of conflating whether a given factor (namely p(everyone dies)) (1) should…
Good lil thread.
Make sure to catch the part where @uncatherio elaborates on the connection to "reality has a surprising amount of detail" (Catherio you might want to append at QT to the main tweetstorm)
I don't think I'm quite gonna do a full #TwitterDayOff for tomorrow=sunday but I do want to be pretty intentional about when I'm using it, as I have several other key focuses. Maybe I'll reply to this tweet as my first move once I come on? idk. I'm thinking not before like 5pm pt
Replying to @qchurious
@qchurious fwiw I don't think twitter lets you delete DMs for both people, only for your own side of the chat history
Retweeted @francissaad
Why are we even ok with September to begin with?!?😖 #TrudeauVaccineFailure #cdnpoli twitter.com/DanAlbas/statu…
@joseschmitty because I like twitter and took 2 days off this week already and I have a bunch of open twitter tabs I've been meaning to reply to haha
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania @mattgoldenberg yea u would
The bottleneck is unquestioned assumptions about both the problemspace and the solutionspace.
❤️ on behalf of the universe, we're working on it 🙏
Thread · Why our tools are so bad: living in the future about thought
.@QiaochuYuan: "I need tuning so bad malcolm omg" (referring to being able to set diff moods on various apps like twitter or youtube) Me:
> I'm not working on this directly myself, nor do I know someone who is, but I'm working on creating a meta-team to effectively identify things like this that need to exist & make them exist, iterating until ppl are more satisfied than they'd even imagined
QC: > i am into it! > you’ve been a big inspiration in helping me notice this sort of stuff > & now i can’t stop omg malcolm why are our tools so bad > except @RoamResearch > this feels genuinely important like i should downgrade my belief in the efficiency of the tech ecosystem
Me: > Something something original seeing > VC funding rounds probably related but not a leverage point > Well I guess like, roam not having easy access to funding years earlier is kinda bad > But also that's a huge lemon problem QC: yeah no kidding
QC: > so you think the bottleneck actually is ideas? hmm. could be you get used to seeing things the dominant way if you immerse yourself into the ecosystem. hmm. Malcolm: > Bottleneck is not exactly ideas but the right ideas? + execution? Fractal ideas?
Malcolm: > This is why I emphasize metaphor design, although on its own it's not enough QC: > but don’t these guys go to burning man and microdose acid > maybe they keep their feelings and spiritual stuff separate from their work stuff tho
QC: > maybe it is just that they spend their time at work doing work stuff so they’re forced to think in work frame idk Malcolm: > That's a huge part of how the assumptions get reinforced > it's not incidental that Conor wasn't working at a big company when he came up with Roam
Malcolm: > Various VCs have talked about how a founder is someone living in the future > & lots of people at Google are living in the future wrt technical work, cloud, ML, etc > but not in relation to play, relationships, value, meaning, ontology, etc
This doesn't fully explain why they're not coming up with tools like Roam that would improve their capacity for development etc… I think the unquestioned assumption thing above = not living in the future wrt eg "what is a thought?" / "what is meaningful information?" …ironic:
(there was more to our chat, that I also want to post, but for now @QiaochuYuan and I have followed a momentum-wave and are spontaneously hopping on a zoom call to co-watch Doug Engelbart's Mother of All Demos) youtube.com/watch?v=yJDv-z…
Also, if you want to spontaneously join us, as part of exploring living in the future wrt remote conversation, here's a zoom link to our call! (Probably up for the next 1-2h) us02web.zoom.us/j/87304842540?…
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
following someone on twitter is a kind of intention-setting
Anything can be a thing with the power of ✨ Reification™✨
Replying to @KenBearIsland
@42irrationalist something about not having an adequate concept of what incredibly happy would even be
Want to cowork with me on Focusmate? It’s a 50-minute video call where we work on our own projects and create a container where doing meaningful This personal link lets you see when I have sessions & match up. focusmate.com/i/6oaAhRP3Z2
(Yo @Focusmate this custom booking link needs to have my name in the title and a better description of how the link is not just a generic one but actually about connecting with a friend.)
@Jacob__Jackson Hey @QiaochuYuan Same Energy is kind of a prototype in the space of the tuning thing that you want apps to have, where your computer/browser can vibe with you emotionally. Wondering if @Jacob__Jackson might wanna collab on something🤩 Some notes on this: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
@Jacob__Jackson @QiaochuYuan Re the possibility of a @Jacob__Jackson collab, it seems to me like @Tabnine_ is kind of in an adjacent space in the sense of trying to make computer tech more anticipatory but in a way that's also super consistent rather than like, random overzealous suggestions.
@made_in_cosmos related:
@karmacustodian you're a legend
Retweeted @Plinz
There are 0.5 percent vegans in the US. Google has removed eggs from the salad emoji for them, which seems to confirm @nntaleb's…
This is a really excellent take on death as just one of many limitations, not fundamentally different than only being able to be in one place at one time. Resonates a lot with how I want to think of things. I asked @uncatherio to post this publicly so I could share it!
I am moving towards this alt world where short and/or spontaneous video calls are a thing. Join me if you're into it. Easier to do ofc with people you've met face-to-face already, as meeting someone face-to-face for the first time is a whole encounter thing.
Yo @mattgoldenberg is the interview of me & @RobertHaisfield up yet? I thought I saw you post it here a month or two ago but then I couldn't find it. Wanted to share it with @rajlego, who was asking how to learn deep design.
sacred : sacrifice :: streetcred : streetcrifice
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania @jambarree I might be able to bring that combo. Not sure if I'm the best fit for various reasons, but open to exploring it! I've recently been leaning more love than tough, but still in a profoundly uncompromising way. 3y ago me 👇 tho am very different now
Believing this sentence will make you happier.
Believing believing this sentence will make you happier will make you happier.
@AskYatharth I've had a few moments I'd tag as "a good day to die" although mostly those moments fade as I get stoked to do more stuff. It's kinda just like an aesthetic thing, like a grander version of writing a tweet that, without trying, comes to exactly 280 chars.
@michellehuang42 @BenBrelje_says @elidourado
Cool thread about synergies between: • memetic mediation & cross-cultural coordination • Vajrayana buddism (much moreso than Sutric buddhism, eg mahayana, theravada, etc) I'm working on trust-building stuff and have found lots of resonances with Vajrayana myself.
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania May you dance intimately with all of existence May your mind be gently then suddenly blown May you integrate all your deepest epiphanies May you find not-knowing to be thrillingly erotic May you be awash in waves of ecstatic wonder May you experience a vibrant life on your terms
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@quotidiania May you dance intimately with all of existence May your mind be gently then suddenly blown May you integrat…
@nosilverv powerfulnesslessness helplessnesslessnesslessness
yo @maybegray and uhh @liminal_warmth and uhh probably other people I'm forgetting twitter.com/saturnsgold/st…
@xuenay @OortCloudAtlas Looking forward to listening to this! Well-summarized. I would recommend to anyone who's into this and wants a whole book with basically the same thesis about inadvertent cult attractors to check out The Guru Papers. Top book reco of mine: amzn.to/3rI8fSu
@xuenay @OortCloudAtlas Also: everyone's brain is controlling for way more things happening in their world than they're conscious of. The unconscious stuff is sometimes called the "shadow". To the extent that someone has the power to control those things—a power leadership often implicitly confers— 1/2
@xuenay @OortCloudAtlas —they'll tend to use them. This means people with any kind of social power will naturally extend their shadow into the social space ie construct a culture where their buttons don't get pushed, too often + where nobody involved even notices this occurring (collective unconscious).
Retweeted @xuenay
How Not To Become a Guru (Tucker Peck & @OortCloudAtlas ) An insight this helped crystallize for me: We tend to think of a "c…
Retweeted @maskys_
There are two types of critics: those who don't see the value of something, and those who see how much more valuable it could…
Hm @Conaw I'm thinking about like, what if there were an option in @RoamResearch to autopublish the graph X years after one's death... Aesthetically I'm sure you're into this. Not sure it's a priority, nor how to build it well if it were.
@maskys_ Some folks (@AbhayPrasanna and others) have actually got the full slack data dump (public channel archives can be exported indefinitely) and are working on porting it into roam! I wrote some code to help: github.com/malcolmocean/s…
What's your deal?
@mattgoldenberg Accept + Memories might kinda be my post-regret thing, though I'm not sure how to frame that as a technique. malcolmocean.com/2017/11/transc…
Realized I never directly shared this fantastic thread which acted as a foundational example of why metaphors are so important in design.
no good reason for information to be organized like this digitally gmail got us partway by ditching folders for labels+search but there is SO MUCH FURTHER TO GO
why not both? It seems obvious to me that the common experience of trying & being blocked (including by awful double-binds) is part of what generates an *active* belief of "if I try, it won't even work" which blocks the learning process that would develop a sense of empowerment.
@mattgoldenberg @IAmMarkManson
@captain_mrs not particularly doesn't particularly anti-gel, but isn't something I've actively noticed could go & review past incidents and see if they match they kinda all feel "very unconscious until made conscious" though so not sure how I'd rank'em
@visakanv reminds me of one of your favorite tweets twitter.com/markpopham/sta…
@nosilverv Confessions of a Pickup Artist Chaser by Clarisse Thorn has some of this stuff in it and it's good but it's a memoir, not so much analysis
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth yeah you're pointing at a real problem here not sure if your solution is workable; not sure I have better part of the issue is just that like, there's an implicit trust involved in letting the HR or management hire who they want; often this trust isn't granted or warranted
@liminal_warmth another part of the issue is that like... it's possible that the main hiring person is naive to a particular pattern (even minor) that many other employees have been burned by, and so they might hire someone who seems obviously untrustworthy to the others
@liminal_warmth I'd incline towards a version of this that's like, neither voting-based nor "speak in front of" based, but like: - each candidate has a 30min circle dialogue with whole company about joining & the mission - then whole company has deep convo before hiring
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth I know an org that used to have a hiring process where person would do a trial week-ish, then they'd discuss, and they'd get all members to freewrite on paper responses to like 5 Qs: • "if this employee saves our company, why would that be?" • " " " ruins " " " " • etc
@liminal_warmth and then they'd discuss each of those questions & answers, reading out the answers *anonymously* so that nobody had to bear the burden of raising a weird concern eg "this person seems 10× more likely to have a psychotic break than most people; still not that likely, but still"
Replying to @bennjordan
@bennjordan @Aella_Girl needs separate: • "women treated differently when they're little girls so, so they grow up with very different personality traits & interests on average etc" • "women treated differently by music industry etc"
Replying to @mikewawszczak
@mikewavsz You might like some of @harmonylion1's writing on trust, eg this ribbonfarm article: ribbonfarm.com/2020/09/23/epi…
Retweeted @RichDecibels
I just published a new post that has been ~10 years in the making. It's about my falling in and out and in love with so…
man I have way too many open loop tabs open and it's stressing me out! I need my Clean Slate + Tinder for Tabs concept to exist already! @about_agrippa & @rajlego are working on this now though, with some advising from me. Reply here if you want to be an early alpha tester!
@RichDecibels Oh dude, this is exciting. I feel connected with you writing about this. I never fell in love with SJ activism in the first place, for many of the reasons you describe (de(con)structive energy) and I'm tentatively feeling encouraged towards metamodern SJ (collect the viewpoints!)
@JasnaSeishin @qchurious I think what happened here is that you didn't own your anger in the first tweet and instead said "really weird how..." and he was like "idk doesn't seem weird" and what you actually meant was "seems fucked up that..." and you read his response as ~"your fault; can't be angry"
@JasnaSeishin @qchurious "didn't own" is maybe not quite it but I think the mismatch between anger and "really weird how" is also why ppl were confused like "didn't seem petty to me"
Replying to @qchurious
@qchurious @JasnaSeishin the solid analysis was enabled in part by others' ❓❓❓ responses to various things, which helped me see the different worlds thing, plus your "petty" tweet, plus careful exegesis of the original text
@powerbottomdad1 @QiaochuYuan still, there's a lot of internet out there
.@QiaochuYuan: "I worry about sending the same message too many times..." Me: "one of the things I find important to track is something like... who loves you?"
Want to space out your timeline so you only see one tweet at once? Install stylus ext then import this: @-moz-document url("x.com/home") { div[aria-label="Timeline: Your Home Timeline"] > div > div article { padding-bottom: 1000px; } }
relevant (he talks about tinder-style interactions immediately here)
a sort of hack that helps me a bit!
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
me tryna flirt in 2021: haha yeah so like what's ur fav way society is fundamentally broken
@QiaochuYuan @LordChisholm I thought you might like this ^ (and the tweet below it)
Retweeted @leaacta
get someone to doubt one of their judgments & they'll feel uncertain for a day. get someone to doubt their faculty of judgmen…
beholding = seeing but not just once—ongoingly but different from "watching" because it's not about the thing changing per se (= me doing a lil p1 from @meditationstuff's protocol rothos.github.io/protocol_1/#p1)
*slaps roof of own head* this bad boy can fit so many shoulds in it
full-fractal nudity
fuck I hate scheduling
Replying to @BenRatkaj
@BenRatkey @QiaochuYuan I like its nonpolishedness
This again, this time with a classic margarita, some campari & vermouth, and Lost In Bass by Supervision. listen: youtube.com/watch?v=IKcZdf…
@QiaochuYuan I think if you get in early enough and strong enough (which you would if you got this sort of message from your future self) then you'd also be unlikely to sell all at any point because you wouldn't need to? / capital gains tax? idk
Retweeted @tobyshorin
Next week Other Internet will be at The Stoa at 12PM presenting our research on Squad Wealth! Come hang out with us and l…
Replying to @s_r_constantin
@s_r_constantin @The_Lagrangian I'd just call this "post-taste"
Retweeted @visakanv
@orbdweaver see: safe spaces are for nourishing, not coddling the point of friendliness is not to avoid conflict, but to act…
Thread · Tab jubilee and the case for Tinder for Tabs · 1 of 7 tweets
too many tabs open starting over fresh liberating it's okay to forget stuff 👉×
@maxahenning @SarahAMcManus @mattgoldenberg I'm connecting with Max soon and it occurs to me that his framework (building on Antonio Damasio's monumental research on emotion & decision-making &+) might be also relevant for the kind of framework we're building around emotions
@field_by_field @productfield I'm very interested in testing your app. Got a tip-off from @maxkriegers who correctly identified it's something I'd vibe with. I do a lot of collaborative early stage design and I'm deep into complex systems thinking.
Thread · Microsolidarity, fluid teams, and whether collectives want anything
Great conversation I had with @RichDecibels last week about microsolidarity & fluid teams, asking him more about Enspiral since it seems really similar to some of what I'm envisioning with my ideas of a distributed self-energizing meta-team. youtube.com/watch?v=P3mZEs…
We talk a lot about how to build trust, manage power dynamics, shape membranes, etc. I like their multi-membrane form, with a core of ~30 you can only join if supermajority approves, who each have individual autonomy to invite ppl to join larger ~200.
One thing I was struck by was him saying that Enspiral neither has agency nor wants anything! So it's neither necessary nor possible to get the whole group to agree on a direction. Instead, you go do a thing and invite people into it.
I think this is a huge and necessarily about-face from the image of a corporation as almost being a person, with needs, desires, and agency. At the same time, superorganism metaphors also appeal to me deeply. Maybe teams have agency & wants, but collectives don't? Hmm hmm hmm.
Stoked to hear that since @RichDecibels put out his thinking on microsolidarity.cc he's had >30 communities reach out saying "you put a name to what we're doing!" Name also enables mutual recognition, though we don't yet know how these entities will relate to each other.
I'm digging the upward spiral of how some of these conversations are moving into the public sphere. When I reached out to @RichDecibels to chat, he said: > Maybe it would be interesting to record and share? I like that QC is pushing this out in the open
To see the tip of the iceberg I'm crystallizing right now, check out this blog post: malcolmocean.com/2020/11/meta-t… which you can also read in tweetstorm form, which is how it originated:
Thread · Tab jubilee and the case for Tinder for Tabs · 1 of 7 tweets
wow this already feels amazing. I feel so much more focused. I need to jubilee more often tinder for tabs when
@ML_x_ART @cunicode @SarahAMcManus ML beetles
@_StevenFan @Morphenius probably has a take on this
@captain_mrs @SarahAMcManus may have thoughts on this, having kept a journal for many years to help organize her memories of feeling different ways
@Aryeh___ stepping out of the woods into this pacific mountain sunset was on the phone with @AbhayPrasanna and I cut myself off midsentence with a "whoaaa"
Pretty great summary of a concept I've seen used kind of informally among my friends. Many people don't realize how intimate and meaningful paying your friends to do something can be. Helping a person you know is way different from just working a job.
It would be even better I think if we had better systems (app idea?!) for tracking where money came from so we could feel the texture of our labor and our relationships in it as we use it, rather than just one big fungible pile of account balance.
Gonna playfully note: there's a further kind of motivation around doing something that's above Cheerful where it would literally take the person energy and effort to *not* do something. I sometimes call this "self-energizing"
Finding those things & the means to enable them (which sometimes still do include money) is a huge win every time.
@karmacustodian @salaciousgreen I feel you on this. My dream is an urban campus, with a ton of park/nature areas but walkable to cafés, stores, & transit, with hundreds of likeminded folks living & learning & working on it. (All ages, not just college students)
ICYMI
Retweeted @PrinceVogel
Firmly resolving to avoid all bad blood that cannot be resolved with a duel, with a kiss, with drink or the touch of some…
@uncatherio @PrinceVogel I find it hot when people can't put their finger on something and they sincerely try anyway. It's its own act of devotion. 🔥👈
@PrinceVogel @utotranslucence this ^ vibes with your recent approach (see @uncatherio's replies for part of why I felt it would resonate with you)
@museical @codexeditor @JasonHise64 @MadeleineLEngle but is the tesseract rotating ana or kata tho?
Replying to @dispirateparts
@dispirateparts first couple seconds: omg 😍 by 30s I feel really connected & am tearing up a lil 🥲 ready for where this music wants to take me feeling relaxed, grooving, held gently feels like it's singing *to* me those sounds refer to me some sense of inquiry towards me I am that peace
@dispirateparts (feels only right to give the context of which youtube video this is about for anyone who somehow comes across my tweet above but isn't following the locked account) youtube.com/watch?v=BNo_Yb…
Thread · Tab jubilee and the case for Tinder for Tabs · 2 of 7 tweets
as the tabs come back (currently 15) I can cluster them: 5 quick access to an app/context (eg roam, complice, slack) 1 playing music right now 5 TODO / open loops (eg 'listen to song', 'reply to tweet') 3 probably unneeded old steps (eg search results, QS spreadsheet) 1 this tab
"this tab" as in literally the one I'm tweeting this in sometimes I need 2,3, maybe even 4 tabs to carry out one single task like "schedule a call with 2 other ppl" (my calendar, and two different chat windows) writing twitter threads often spawns many windows of scrap material
@kenakennedy haha was just about to bump here again when I saw I had 4 unread DMs and checked and saw the one from you no worries if you have diverged from this original intention, though I'd enjoy getting you back in touch with that intention if that's wanted
Retweeted @chlabacher
This “wrong turn” only happened because operating systems failed to be good application development environments for the ki…
Thread · The NYT SSC piece as bad writing · 1 of 7 tweets
main thought I had while reading nytssc was "this is bad writing. people read stuff like this?" not bad as in evil bad as in someone made a meal by adding an incoherent combination of spices to stale rice and putting it in bread as a sandwich 🤨 it was just all over the place twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
Replying to @eigenrobot
@mattgoldenberg @reasonisfun @visakanv @michaelcurzi @m_ashcroft @pragueyerrr @TylerAlterman @JeffLadish @diviacaroline saw @diviacaroline's response before I saw the prompt and it prompted me to think of a photo of myself colorfully giving a goals workshop but then... let's see, what else... ah yes. appreciating the prompt! almost said "idk", oddly, but tried anyway & helped me get a lil clearer
@mechanical_monk @liminal_warmth I think @liminal_warmth is pointing at a hypocrisy thing, highlighting how Cade might sort of vaguely claim to be helping marginalized folks by calling out SSC, but LW is saying "actually you're directly causing the very problem you claim to be solving"
@sonyasupposedly @collinofzion he just also knew *systems theory* eg the dynamics of arms races classic game theory insufficiently loopy
@mechanical_monk @liminal_warmth but this does indeed only make sense from a frame where the problems are things like "polarization" & "people are afraid to speak unorthodox things", and I guess that frame is in a battle with frame of Cade/BlueTribe which says "these opinions bad" (or maybe just "sell clicks")
Thread · The NYT SSC piece as bad writing · 5 of 7 tweets
anyway, @liminal_warmth has the best actual critique of the thing I've read so far, in this thread twitter.com/liminal_warmth…
this tweet in particular really stood out to me really highlights the difference between virtue signalling and actually trying to care for literally anything, and how Cade's doing the former maybe? maybe his model of causality is just terrible, idk twitter.com/liminal_warmth…
on further reflection, not sure if I agree with myself here. hazards of thinking out loud, or thinking seriously at all I guess the apparent hypocrisy is only visible in a frame that is not actually the frame the writer or audience is using
and at any rate, I'm also a proponent of "no scolding" am not personally scolding Cade here, I don't think? just trying to make sense of what's going on
in the meantime, Scott's back, and he's got lots of great new writing on Astral Codex Ten that was the main thought behind my first tweet—the contrast in the quality of writing & thinking in the nyt piece vs ssc itself astralcodexten.substack.com
Replying to @pragueyerrr
@pragueyerrr mmmm both lovely I think you could pull off dark red hair!
@pragueyerrr do iiiiiit
@pragueyerrr I mean I think we just have a winner, is what I'm trying to say here the whole black & white dichotomy from the original tweet was a confusion 'cause babe u need to be read all over
@yashkaf that vibes with my experience reading it 😂
Thread · The NYT SSC piece as bad writing · 1 of 7 tweets
oh man @yashkaf nails this mostly-serious mostly-joking assessment of why it's so bad 😙👌 (is a whole thread)
if you're feeling lost, reach out to some friends who can remind you who you are (past, present, and potential) that's a huge part of what relationships are for it's not supposed to be entirely your job to keep track of yourself!
@ciphergoth hard to say without full context but approximately scolding doesn't actually work because it causes 1 or more of: • defensiveness • the person to try to suppress whatever caused them to do the thing in the first place • faking an apology (may be self-deception or lie)
@ciphergoth also most people don't consciously lie like that they do much weirder messier things if someone did that, decent chance they're a sociopath I think? —which is not to say "if I think they did that, decent chance..." because odds are high I'm confused about what happened.
@seconds_0 and where you can feel your efforts accumulating in real stuff this can happen with programming too, although bugfixes sometimes make that process incredibly nonlinear (I built a new thing in 2h! I spent 20h fixing the bugs it caused!)
@Aryeh___ @AbhayPrasanna here it is with more water
Replying to @dispirateparts
@dispirateparts super curious what it does for you! (both what it would have done before, and how it's evolving in your system now)
Replying to @today4evr
@feeling_form amazing.
@kristineberth @btohtoh warning: won't actually cause the paragraph to be missing in whatever gets published a friend of mine in high school accidentally handed in a paper with a paragraph he'd tried to comment out with <!-- HTML comments --> (it was a word doc—this would have worked in actual HTML)
Retweeted @Simon__Grimm
I thought criticism of incentives within science was something new. I was therefore surprised to see this graph of "publ…
did you know that "publish or perish" is over 50 years old as a phrase? what does it change about your sense of the problem, to know how long people have been aware of it and unable to solve it?
@houshuang Yessssssssssssss and oh man Roam Inter is one of the tabs I didn't restore last night! Which is sort of like "oh no!" but also encouraging because it's like "right, I can forget and will be reminded of it if I keep putting relevant stuff out"
@mattgoldenberg @QiaochuYuan yeah this is why I'm focused a lot on full-fractal buy-in
Replying to @quotidiania
@quotidiania @jambarree yup yup, let's let it all emerge
can someone figure out how to conjugate "let's let" in latin? feels like a good motto for something. looking up what the latin word for "let" might even be (conjugation aside) I'm concluding maybe it's better in english
@relic_radiation mmm these are points I haven't seen talked about a lot! would love to hear you elaborate on them I feel there's layers here that I don't yet understand, that maybe you do!
@visakanv I love that you're saying stuff like this in public! takes courage and also takes a kind of strategicness, which you're in the process of also talking about, strategically
@becomingfreer same.energy might help! searches for images with similar vibes same.energy/search?i=57a3f…
@becomingfreer ♥️ yeah, questioning (gently) things that actually feel true is where the real juice is helps me to frame these as "some part of me knows something, legit *knows*, not just believes-a-false-thing. the aim is to integrate that with what else I know"
Replying to @danielharan
@danielharan *takes a massive hit of Salvador Dalí* I don't do drugs, I am drugs.
> “global health” was rarely used to mean the health of everyone, everywhere. In practice, people [...] used this term to refer to the health of people in non-rich countries. A more accurate term probably would have been “developing country health.” Legit. gatesnotes.com/2021-Annual-Le…
suddenly got this song stuck in my head today, and subsequently @SarahAMcManus's. twitter.com/AlexandraErin/…
> By the next pandemic, I’m hopeful we’ll have what I call mega-diagnostic platforms, which could test as much as 20 percent of the global population every week. Whoa.
Snow on Vancouver Island today! Sarah and I went tobogganing with my cousin who we're staying with. Fun to have like, a single weekend of snowy winter, each year. (Plus I guess there are mountains if you wanna ski a lot)
Retweeted @maxefremov
I command you to play
@theorangealt +1 to importance of constraints, which is what I'm seeing as being the main thing you're saying here. simply removing constraints isn't automatically better my roamblog has been a boon to my writing and thinking; it's hard to read but better than it not getting written at all
Retweeted @eigenrobot
this morning, I spoke with @m_ashcroft about the Alexander Technique and a dozen things related to it. we touch on awaren…
@QiaochuYuan @selentelechia @meditationstuff some used copies that could be shipped to 1dollarscan.com to digitize (have done this before and it works pretty well) or it's on kindle for $8: amazon.com/Therafields-Ri…
@QiaochuYuan @visakanv yesss let's record a conversation about omnitext could be a 3-person jam with @visakanv! (re "write about omnitext" I'm kind of imagining having someone else listening live/after and taking notes or something)
@CruzCalvo @Beehtrix Huh, I wanna be in those music review rooms! I've got some weird funky verbose songs I've been working on that are very far from mainstream pop but our weird nerdy crowd would be very into them. Not yet recorded for radio but ready to perform ACapella!
@CruzCalvo @Beehtrix Twitter is by far not optimal for music startups, in many ways, but it's not obvious to me that it's not a great place to jam about music startup *ideas*. It could be better but that doesn't mean it mightn't still be best so far.
Retweeted @selentelechia
the replies under this are interesting some people very angry at the idea of structuring a class without deadlines o…
a ton of conversation, from politics to relationship conflict, is like this, but unconsciously mostly people speaking what they need to speak in order to not lose touch with the truth of their own experience but from such a precarious stance it's impossible to listen twitter.com/selentelechia/…
Replying to @selentelechia
excellent lil 3-tweet thread, that applies to a lot of things
@seconds_0 @maxefremov yeah I'm pretty straight and I barely even noticed there was a woman in the scene for like 10s
@rsnous can I help you get this ported to linux somehow?
@callumflack @rsnous which thing is that?
Thread · Tab jubilee and the case for Tinder for Tabs · 2 of 7 tweets
okay, continuing my live-documenting of this process of having lots of threads... I opened my tw notifications, which I do once or twice a week, and that spawned a few dozen tabs. have now whittled those down to 7 I want to act on kinda weird I processed the least important 1st
> I processed the least important 1st this is part of what's sus about my current system, and part of why I want Tinder for Tabs. I think I process the easy&unimportant ones first because them being open puts a tax on the attention I'd want to spend on the important ones!
this guy FUCKS youtube.com/watch?v=C3n20h…
musical social network when no engagement :(
omfg if you didn't believe me before that this guy fucks pay close attention between minutes 6 & 7 of this video: youtube.com/watch?v=BARAHL…
fuck, Scott2.0 doesn't have a unique abbreviation. no more "ssc" for short, because it's "astral codex ten" which as a word looks like "act" and in all caps ACT looks like some sort of political thing (whether a govt bill or an activist group" I guess it's "codex" for short.
...which is nice, because it has continuity with SSC! "latest codex post" ...yeah, that seems like it works. sry @codexeditor
Replying to @QiaochuYuan
@QiaochuYuan @eigenrobot whoa I had no idea this image was from a video/gif!
Thread · Tab jubilee and the case for Tinder for Tabs · 1 of 7 tweets
with some difficulty, I can kind of manually do the tinder for tabs thing, maybe. let's see. tab snooze them for like 3 months out, then go through one by one, I think (update: I wrote the above last night, snoozed all but 1, did that 1 which was a rich couple hours)
one of the most common sources of demotivation is inadequate feedback loops
@TylerAlterman Dirty Loops is like everything and thus like nothing
@TylerAlterman The Algorithm busted a lot of my assumptions about rhythm & tempo. This track good, there's also a good one called octopus or something like that youtube.com/watch?v=YjjmM3…
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
I want to hear something NEW. What is music that is unlike anything else while still enjoyable to listen to?
@QiaochuYuan <3 the sad face was about the post from August having no engagement
Retweeted @mattgoldenberg
1/ I make a living teaching people the skill of no willpower, but the skill of having willpower is just as useful. @r…
@ckmcdona @reasonisfun Lots of fear is internal. Fear of hell (whether fire and brimstone or the hell of social rejection) causes many people to habitually suppress any thoughts or desires that seem at odds with that. It creates the "do this or else" because the why is arbitrary & too big to fathom.
I am sad by how hard/rigid scheduling seems to be, particularly for groups but even 1-on-1. I want something like an app that tracks everyone's availability & mood *in real-time* and proposes "now would be a great time for you 4 to jump on this call!" #ThingsIWantToExist
@_StevenFan supports habits around looking at my finances
@CarnunMP This is why writing code is often easier to do for an entire day than writing an essay or a story: you can test regularly to ensure each line (or each module) does what you want. Whereas with prose writing, people often find it hard to know if their edits are even improvements.
@the_wilderless related:
@the_wilderless and related:
check yourself for magnetic monopoles
before it's too late
Lots I don't resonate with in this article, but I appreciate him legit trying to spark an "Emperor has no Clothes" moment by being so overt and direct. Curious if there's enough latent built-up pressure for that to work! ift.tt/34mJ9jj
@prerationalist The inc.one folks have a whole topia.io universe with multiple interlinked spaces, a calendar of scheduled events, and other contexts. I think we're going to start seeing more of those.
@gyrodiot oooh @QiaochuYuan that ^ article relates to omnitext roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
@MasterTimBlais I do remember this. it was very weird 😂
@MasterTimBlais yeah, I've thought about this a little and I think part of what's going on is like, ppl would feel a little crazy if they saw a notification and went to check and there was nothing there? would probably even think there was a bug, tbh. so there has to be some sign?
@MasterTimBlais you are still so early to the game of learning out loud on twitter welcome 🥰
@rajlego IFTTT system is a little widget on my android, where I am not otherwise logged in (I don't have the app). My only complaints with it are I can't post images and I can't see the character count so sometimes I go over 280. Also no threads but that's fine. ifttt.com/applets/RWS7dg…
@rajlego Beyond that, I have a bunch of userstyles that make things more focused. eg right now in the compose window, everything else is hidden. So to tweet on desktop I go to twitter.com/NVMNVMNVMNVMNV… then hit N to open the tweet/thread composer
nobody: (okay sometimes somebody) me: here are the N ways I avoid distraction on twitter: • no mobile except IFTTT widget • completely hide notifications (🔴&#⃣) with userstyles & userscripts • minimalist tweet-composer • quicksearches intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo… 👈 deets
@meditationstuff I made the meme, as a comment on this git diff of Mark updating his meditation protocol main.txt: github.com/meditationstuf…
loved this image by @LindsayBramanMA but wanted to make it even more general, so I did! (am on a mission to make all relationships therapeutic)
@rajlego IFTTT link only works if you're logged in, which is super dumb as it makes things less discoverable 🤷♀️ yo @IFTTT this seems bad, why is it?
I've been sort of out of it but let's keep the tradition going—Tuesday #TwitterDayOff tomorrow, who's in? (I'll probably be doing pomodoros in this coworking room much of the day: complice.co/room/twitter-d…)
tagging @visakanv @DaltonDEmery @nuanceexists @xuenay @ifIknewIdtellya @jstanotherview @RobertHaisfield @meekaale @abecedarius @m_ashcroft @acidshill @QiaochuYuan @coponder @uberstuber @original_chills @Neats29 @the_wilderless re #TwitterDayOff Tuesday
if anyone I tagged above wants to be not tagged in future, or anyone (above or not) DOES want to be tagged in future, lmk! I'm very much intending to make an ongoing cultural institution out of this.
Replying to @billmeidotnet
@billmeidotnet maybe in some sense but not on a deep level you literally need feedback loops in order to steer at all, and if you don't have them, no matter how much precision you have in your output, you can't steer eg if driving & visibility becomes like this, IT IS SANE TO SLOW WAY DOWN
Replying to @phr31nd
@metaphrand_ I just spotted the new username and I love it! prompted me to click on your profile again even though I know I did that recently curious who'll be the metaphier to your metaphrand 😜
Replying to @phr31nd
@metaphrand_ Just signed you up for 10 more!
Retweeted @nickcammarata
In the shower and realize a better way to phrase a tweet you made? Go tweet again, you don’t even have to delete the old…
@meekaale "what else is good?" made me think of this song, although it's in a very different category than what you're pointing at here youtube.com/watch?v=_OTRIp…
@meekaale seems more like 20min. aight. bedtime for me now
@meekaale ⦿ coherence therapy (and the whole framework in Unlocking the Emotional Brain)
ahhh fucking brilliant thread. I didn't have the "tweet excitedly about what I'm learning" knack 4 years ago when I first got into PCT so you missed my version of these threads
because kinda too late for me now
I had a great #TwitterDayOff! Best one since the 1st one a few weeks ago. Did a lot of singletasking, which is my aim—particularly on those days. Fixed some complice.co bugs, wrote up some stuff including a thing that'll be a blog post in the next day or so. Others?
tagging peeps: @visakanv @DaltonDEmery @nuanceexists @xuenay @ifIknewIdtellya @jstanotherview @RobertHaisfield @meekaale @abecedarius @m_ashcroft @acidshill @QiaochuYuan @coponder @uberstuber @original_chills @Neats29 @the_wilderless enjoying the emergent organization
oh on the day after I really should be tagging the people who specifically said "I'm in" for #TwitterDayOff. My bad! That was: @QiaochuYuan @forgingtowards @metaphrand_ @tasshinfogleman @AaronEstel @acidshill @meekaale @uberstuber @gwenshap
probably not too late, actually... 🤔 I bet if I re-read B:CP I'd have a ton of new insights. I did that with a couple chapters of it last year actually, and that was true.
@joseschmitty @LindsayBramanMA I truly think both. I used to be like "nah, therapists not needed" and I still think that's more true than most people realize, in the limit. But I also now think that in the meantime, people underrate the power of high quality coherence-aware therapy.
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
this valentine's day please give yourself the gift of this free sample of richard schwartz's IFS relationship book, "you a…
feels important and relevant outside of computer/operational security but I'm not sure quite how thoughts? twitter.com/chris_foulon/s…
great thread about adapting processes to suit the needs of all parts involved, rather than trying to do something as you're supposed to, despite protestations
guessing that @Aryeh___ has a similar full-fractal buy-in stance to this:
ICYMI "I pet myself" is a very useful meme something something attachment styles twitter.com/imani__r/statu…
@uberstuber gotchu
moot, 𝘢𝘥𝘫. irrelevant, unworthy of consideration From Japanese "mu", originally "not have, without"; used in zen to respond to a question/koan with neither yes/no. Borrowed by Pirsig & Hofstadter into English in 1970s w/ this "un-ask the question" meaning. "moot", ie "mu'd"
@robertskmiles looool they had to tie his legs up to keep him from putting his back out dancing with that thing the ultra-deep part at 5mins in is fucking excellent. I want that shit piped straight into my chest, Shambhala/Bonnaroo style
@uberstuber also this mix soundcloud.com/thefunkhunters…
Replying to @eggprophet
@EggProphet shhhhhh
@KyleBowe4 @nick_dewilde @shleysays this cracked me up
@primalpoly @muneeb @primalpoly I saw your fb post about Crypto 3.0 projects like DOT, ADA, LINK, and I'm curious if your sense is that they're a third market, broadly speaking, or if they're doing the thing ETH is trying to do but better.
@EggProphet thx
@michaelcurzi in other words, ⚪️⚪️⚪️⚪️
@itsLuciKeller really loud sex
Sarah: "...I have a bad taste in my mouth. ... ...tastes like dukkha." (w @SarahAMcManus)
I own the domain intertwingled.blog, which is where I host my roamblog… …but given how @cloakist's redirects work, you can link to any public roam page with intertwingled.blog swapped in instead of roamresearch.com! /#/app/database_name is the key part
Retweeted @RobertHaisfield
The screenshot explains why ref path scope highlighting is so interesting as a behavior change intervention - it allow…
Thread · Running list of people doing deep design work · 1 of 14 tweets
@szimr built an app to help publish Niklas Luhmann's Zettelkasten archive? fyeah. he goes on the Deep Design list. twitter.com/szimr/status/1…
@marathiMaharaja @karmacustodian @metaLulie am I (directly or indirectly) responsible for PCT making the rounds again? seems at least somewhat—I at least recommended the books to @karmacustodian... how about you @busy_goose? (I've started tracking my influence-via-book-recos, and it's wild.)
@metaLulie attachment theory & repair seems basic sense-of-how-the-universe-is gets learned by the age of 2 and dramatically affects everything after, including: - likelihood of getting traumatized - ability to do therapy - relationships ofc often borked but can be redone in adulthood!
@metaLulie + co-paced learning I'm taking this attachment course and going through it slowly with friends (@xuenay, @QiaochuYuan.,) & critiquing the content, which is amazingly different from school. Being able to pause the (recording of the) teacher! 😮🥰 attachmentrepair.com/online-courses…
Retweeted @maybegray
if you live in Canada you get to laugh at Texas a little bit as a treat ❄️
not many places in the world where this photo could have been taken although one more this year than usual
@Aryeh___ you might also love this which was from when you were off twitter
Replying to @SpongeonethOT
@snigdhar0y university will be worth it for the networking & internship opportunities but it'll actually make you worse at thinking clearly, so do as little as possible and focus on meaningful real-world projects & businesses
Replying to @_Kogito_
@BuddhaCAurelius @acidshill "Oh man!"s Agreement Theorem
@TylerAlterman some useful links on prayer (which I'll also note in this tweet can be understood as the left hemisphere surrendering to the right hemisphere - a vital move to be able to do)
For eons, the frequencies lived in harmony. 🌏 But everything changed when the HF nation attacked! 🔥 Only the [______], master of all frequencies, can unite them… 👁️
Retweeted @RosieCampbell
@chiefofstuffs @nickcammarata Cammarata’s Law: You’re likely radically underestimating yourself, even after you take int…
the void looked into me and started dancing
Replying to @SpongeonethOT
@snigdhar0y Relevant writing I've done Don't Pay For Options You Don't Want: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo… Unlearning Shoddy Thinking: malcolmocean.com/2015/06/unlear…
juicy thread great summary of Mark's high level thinking as well as an exploration of the role of money in spreading or preventing spread of information
@postquanta ..........yeah. I made the _____ not knowing what would go in it, but then by the time I tweeted it I kinda realized that was the obvious answer... but I couldn't bring myself to fill it in 😂
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
1/ This century accelerated the war of the frequencies. High frequency (HF) domains battle with low frequency (HF) ones…
@cloakist personally I think it's kinda cool that it works the way it does
@cloakist realizing that that wasn't clear in the original tweet because no tone of voice but it was supposed to be like "hey, this is cool! check it out!"
@visakanv one bit: you can help strangers, particularly with public work, just by attuning to your own sense of appetite and writing stuff, and you'll draw in the people who get value from it. whereas w friends, have to attune to self AND them, including their resistances or fears
Thread · Recursive koans about rules, decisions, and meta-negotiation · 1 of 15 tweets
Retweeted @michael_nielsen
That sounds sappy and sentimental. But it has sharp teeth. I'm not at all wild about notions of "progress" which ba…
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I'd enjoy a science fiction novel exploring the (wild) premise of a world in which every single human being was loved…
I'm working on eutopia. I need your help. We're not done until everyone says we're done.
Eutopia is, by definition, the answer to the question "where are we when we ask if we're there yet and everyone says yes"
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
from @Malcolm_Ocean: "Google Docs is supposed to be for writing, but it is actually the best app for reading" currently c…
@QiaochuYuan @BlackForestBoi relevant to @worldbrain, though I don't know quite how relevant to your vision on various timescales
@QiaochuYuan @BlackForestBoi @worldbrain ahh um @utotranslucence - relevant to @marginaliaclub too (are you still working on that? hm, realizing I don't feel in touch with your pulse there!)
Retweeted @captain_mrs
Fuck yes let's make some rich miserable people happy and then spend that money and research on making everyone else progre…
@iapct @ClayNichols I really think that the world would benefit tremendously from making B:CP and MSB available as free ebooks now that they're out of print. They're still my go-to intros on the topic, having checked out lots of other books (by Pfau, Ford, etc).
@iapct @ClayNichols If I imagine being you, I imagine having a concern about that eating into the sales of the other more recent books, but I honestly think that the main limiting factor is PCT not being well-known, and liberating the IP of Powers' original texts would help a ton with that!
@QiaochuYuan @gwenshap @forgingtowards @metaphrand_ @tasshinfogleman @AaronEstel @acidshill @meekaale @uberstuber I already don't check the TL many days, aided by having a userstyle that hides it (in addition to a couple userstyles I use to hide all of twitter sometimes). Notifications cause huge tab explosions for me, and sometimes so does clicking around to someone's timeline.
@dankuck @snigdhar0y I honestly think if you did this right (live in an apartment near campus with other 18yos who are actually enrolled) you could get like 60% of the benefit for 5% of the cost. (Cost in time and money.) Many clubs you can't officially join if not enrolled, but still tons to do.
@_StevenFan I'm kinda doing this. Had a profound insight last summer and I'm still digesting the implications of it but in some sense it's all just further derivations from one new theorem implied by axioms I was using for years. I also can't for the life of me do research on purpose lol.
@karmacustodian @marathiMaharaja @metaLulie @busy_goose not public since not everybody lets me know publicly that I got them to read things, but the main thing I've been tracking is that I've gotten over a dozen people to read Iain McGilchrist's TMAHE by tweeting excitedly about his model (& direct recs)
@diviacaroline @metaLulie I don't have any personal investment in that figure, it's just what people who seem to know about this stuff say 🤷♀️ As Kaj notes, it does sometimes change as people grow up, and I'm curious to know why that happens when it does!
@diviacaroline @metaLulie Another thing we maybe don't know (maybe we do?) for instance, is like, uhhh, maybe it rarely changes because if the parents were (in)secure when the kid was 1yo, they usually still are for the next 2 decades. Not because it's actually fixed down at the age of 20 months.
@michaelcurzi Yeah!
Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman
"Suffering" as the Buddha referred to it might be the experience of the failure of cybernetic control, i.e. dysregulatio…
@ben_r_hoffman I wrote up a lil thing on this!
@42irrationalist oooh yes! also this:
@rosano huh, not yet clear how it's better than what I'm currently doing
@nickcammarata @cjflog @MilanGriffes @michael_nielsen @tao_lin @QualiaRI @andzuck1 @algekalipso @johnsonmxe @webmasterdave I consider myself to be working on eutopia full-time, although I'm pursuing leverage points other than molecules or other immediately-scaleable qualia upgrades. Developing human coordination meta-systems that allow people to collectively make the thing.
@maxefremov @metaLulie @xuenay @QiaochuYuan we're like halfway through and kind of want to keep the cohort we've got, but you could join the course yourself and find another person or group to co-learn with you! I'd be happy to help find people 😊
Latest blog post: a short exploration of a work-in-progress emotional coherence (un)learning arc I'm on. Guessing a lot of other people who felt like school was going too slow will resonate with this! malcolmocean.com/2021/02/lectur…
Retweeted @mattgoldenberg
Seeing @Malcolm_Ocean and @SarahAMcManus work through relationship issues like this is really something to behold. Hav…
Retweeted @Joe_Lightfoot_
Today I spoke (and sang) with the marvellous @Malcolm_Ocean and delved deeply into his emerging notion of the Non Naive…
@thepericulum curious to hear more!
@ben_r_hoffman @goblinodds @diviacaroline I would love to see all of this explicated in depth, or like... interview someone about it? it feels really juicy and important but I don't feel like I quite get it yet
far from certain but I just had a funny feeling @Conaw would dig this saxy improv jam youtube.com/watch?v=GXPSQv…
@jackinlondon what was the resolution in your case? (I don't actually think mine has resolved yet!)
Very cool thread on cybernetics & learning how to not get dysregulated even when you lose some of your capacity to regulate things. To fall but not flail.
Awwww shiet. I have been wanting something like this for awhile, and it makes kind of obvious sense. WordPress itself allows you to have reusable blocks! Why not import from Roam? deliber.at/roam/wp-roam-b…
Retweeted @startuployalist
“What are the situations where you want to bet frequently and small? Where do you want to bet less often, but big?” ht…
heretickle, v lightly touch in an unorthodox manner so as to cause itching and also laughter hereticklish, adj one who has trouble refraining from laughter when hearing things such as "the Emperor has no clothes"
Retweeted @Aryeh___
Thread · Ontum: a single unit of ontology in perceptual control theory · 8 of 9 tweets
ontum = a unit of ontology Using a PCT lens, each of my perceptual control systems is responsible for perceiving & regulating exactly one ontum, and the set of all such onta in my system *is* my ontology.
Examples: • individual sense cells have their ontum baked in, eg a cone cell detects certain light wavelengths • one level up there's an ontum of PINK 🌸= {blue, red, no green} • a few levels further is an ontum of PINK as a *concept* with associations to gender or panther
Motor examples: • lowest level: an individual muscle cell tensing • 2nd level: the overall position of a finger • 3rd level: the hand in the shape of a G chord on this particular instrument (much higher is the concept of G across 🎸🎹) • 4th level: transition between G & C
More examples: • ontum: air with a skunky smell • ontum: "skunk" as a species • ontum: "cannabis sativa" as a species • ontum: "stoned/high" as a state of mind someone could have • ontum: "bloodshot eyes" as a perception • ontum: "how high am I?" • ontum: THC
Yet more examples (these are just pointers; diff between ppl) • ontum: money • ontum: my money • ontum: my income • ontum: rich • ontum: "the rich" • ontum: value • ontum: GDP • ontum: the thing GDP is a proxy for • ontum: capitalism • ontum: $GME • ontum: billionaire
This might also be exactly what @DavidDeutschOxf is pointing at with his definition of "real".
For a given ontum, you can set the reference level to something else, eg "I should have more money", but it's hard to deliberately create/change/destroy a given ontum, at least at very high and very low levels. In between, not hard to eg find out about a new food you like.
Or in more natural language, with fewer examples but more details about learning etc, see @QiaochuYuan's thread here. (both threads came from a conversation he and I had Feb 18th—not a coincidence they showed up the same week)
important clarification
@midwit100 thanks! if you haven't seen @QiaochuYuan's version, check that out too!
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
i’m noticing that when i read writing, on twitter or elsewhere, that is visibly trying to change the people reading it in…
@mattgoldenberg @QiaochuYuan Ooooh yeah, great point about the metaphor—I'm also resistant (though differently to you) to the image of "clean it all up then you're done". Though @meditationstuff's "layering" frame has done a lot for me, including in my programming work! eg:
@mattgoldenberg @QiaochuYuan @meditationstuff I sometimes frame it as "untangling" too. I guess what I might say is something like, no amount of *just* delayering is sufficient, but since most techniques and experiences *add* layers, it is an utterly vital dimension to track and attend to in organizing anything (psych &+).
@harveykrishna_ sure u don't want human systems design?
@QiaochuYuan @Lithros @goblinodds same energy:
@QiaochuYuan @DaltonDEmery QC had a longer version of this a year ago:
@QiaochuYuan @DaltonDEmery part 2 (see also a lil Q&A in the replies)
hey @QiaochuYuan I found this old tweet (and the ones next to it) that are very related to our current explorations into PCT & motivation!
Retweeted @ByrneHobart
Reader feedback: I incorrectly asserted that space runs a large trade deficit with the earth, since we send expensive elec…
check out Alfred Korzybski's Science & Sanity if you want to join the club of Ā
@cheascake this life-size iridescent skull
@nateliason Huge costs in terms of other stuff too—the efficiency is only in increased legibility. In practice, many 5yos aren't ready for math that other 5yos are ready for, but will be ready by age 6 or 7. By forcing same cohorts for all skills, some necessarily way behind & ahead.
> Compulsory schooling was originally introduced as a way to remove vulnerable children from the labor market. At the time, this legislation was needed because children were being exploited by factories that relied on cheap labor. woaaah. sundayscaries.substack.com/p/why-do-teena…
This goes a whole layer deeper than the story about education that says "it's not really to teach wisdom, or creativity, or anything meaningful, just to teach kids to work in factories." —that may yet be somewhat true, but it misses that kids were *already in factories* 😮
Was a bit skeptical when I read "Real wages have risen," having just read this article talking about how the wage class (unlike salaried) has fared worse in the last 50 years. [archdruidmirror.blogspot.com/2017/06/donald…] But original @philmohun article later says wages have fallen. Which is it?
great comment chain (scroll up) of people talking about accidentally reinventing everyday things
@meekaale @QiaochuYuan mmm, this half-bakedly relates to this series of koans (I feel like another one could be written about "ethics" or "goodness/rightness" but I can't quite put my finger on what it is)
@Levi7hart @nateliason might actually be even worse than that, according to an article I just read schooling was actually to get the kids *out* of the factories
Replying to @roddur_dasgupta
@roddur_dasgupta @QiaochuYuan yeah, if we just assume the PCT model, then the lowest level onta are all single sensory cells (though this might include senses we don't know about) or muscle or endocrine actuation cells and the higher onta are combinations of lower, sometimes linear, sometimes more complex
@roddur_dasgupta @QiaochuYuan this shape: ♥️ just as a perceivable shape would be a third-order ontum but as a "heart" would be like a 7th order ontum and the concept of "love" might be an 11th order ontum? (PCT has 11 levels, last I checked)
@harveykrishna_ idk, start here?
@coponder Would be happy to explore it by working on a lil project with you! If we can find something self-energizing
Reply to this tweet if you've read Iain McGilchrist's book (or part of it) and say when(ish) you read it and what prompted you to read it!
Replying to @forgingtowards
@forgingtowards @theorangealt @karmacustodian @marathiMaharaja @metaLulie @busy_goose fine okay here's a signup:
@iapct @ClayNichols @EvadeHullu glad to hear it! I'd be happy to consult with you on this, as a guy who periodically inspires dozens of people to all go check out the same book 🚀 (2 years ago this was Iain McGilchrist; seems like PCT may be about to be the next hit)
@samlearns Those seem great, yeah! You can explore different kinds of wants using an exercise like this (click thru for full thing)
@samlearns Those seem both kind of like dreams themselves but also like, meta-dreams, like you're recognizing that it can be hard to actually get clear about what you want.
@xuenay @QiaochuYuan @mattgoldenberg @meditationstuff re multiple layers, RDLaing: With great labour, a wish is: (i) denied (ii) replaced by a fear that generates a nightmare that is (iii) denied, and on which a (iv) nice facade is then placed
@artpi It's not working for me github.com/artpi/wp-roam-…
I was on a podcast! Very all-over-the-place & raw, but if you want to hear one of my first attempts at publicly putting some words to this complex framework I've been calling the Non-Naive Trust Dance, here's a recording you can listen to: joelightfoot.org/thelighfootpod…
If you listen to it, I'd really appreciate if you reflected to me what you got from it, including wtf you think the NNTD is after listening, so that I can have a gauge of whether it makes: (A) any sense at all (B) the same sense to other people that it makes to me
@emmalsalinas found this at the 59th minute lol I have one strategy for how I might do it, but not enough time haha
#TwitterDayOff for Sunday! Might code, might do other stuff.
@Aryeh___ speaking of which, I want to run a handful of people through a process I call "full-fractal buy-in", and I want to start with people who I think already mostly/kinda get it, so that I can better understand the concept before trying to explain from scratch
@Aryeh___ you came to mind, based on the original tweet / thread here are you interested?
I am lucky (?) enough to be able to do whatever I want—I worked hard to get there, but from a pretty good starting place—but I'm realizing that I have dramatically overestimated how good I am at actually asking myself then doing it! Mostly just unconsciously bumping around.
This experiment 👇 was quite informative, but then I got back up to 88 tabs by earlier today. Did lots of closing the last half-hour, now back to 34. I need a workflow for closing all at once. Working on that.
@ollybot_redux reduces to the same problem, turns out, unfortunately they've written about this, I forget where
So @SarahAMcManus drew this on the way to making an actual diagram of something, and I just, I can't,,, 😂💀
Oh, came here to post just this one tweet, which is that I'm hanging out in here. See y'all in this room and/or tomorrow! complice.co/room/twitter-d…
@samuelbars I had to destroy Onetab because multiple times I hit a hotkey that caused it to close all of my open windows *losing state like unsubmitted forms*. Probably could disable the hotkey but I'm triggered by the mere idea of the extension 😬😂
@garbledgarfield That's actually a really good lil summary of NNTD! And also it would have been okay and super useful to know if you *had* missed the point, because it would have pointed at some issue in my explaining of it. (This isn't school where your confusion is your fault.)
@mattgoldenberg @meditationstuff This is me on like 95% of polls that have a magic button 😂
Teach your kids about thought experiments before someone else does.
@vgr dancing
@tdoggyholhol Oooh, me & @SarahAMcManus perhaps at some point! Currently on Vancouver Island but will be on the mainland sooner or later. Perhaps @LordChisholm! I think you two would vibe. Your /about page still says this btw: > I’m currently based in Basel.
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Do any of my twitter peeps live in Vancouver? Just moved here. Lmk and I’ll buy you a coffee and/or beer.
@ollybot_redux collective agency?
This is an important and interesting question! The paradox with trying to answer it is that at present the things about which this is most true can't be named with a single word! t.co/8JcjS6fKMo
@garbledgarfield I guess the main missing bit or something is like, the whole thing is meta in the sense of like, as a communication protocol, part of the whole point of being able to speak distrust is that if you don't trust the apparent protocol, you need to be able to revise it!
@ollybot_redux @mechanical_monk this is art and also awful and still has me cracking up after a minute or so of laughing "forgive me monk" 🤣🤣🤣
good thread on loopy causality
hey @utotranslucence it's us
I was thinking about roam urls, and kind of vaguely wondering if they could be more meaningful, but then I was like, what if you want to a url that doesn't exist, like roam/attachment/article/<articleurl> & I was like whoa, wait, going to that url could just CREATE 3 bullets
like now you're on the attachment page and there's a bullet tagged #article and then a subbullet of that with the article url so it would be like quick-capture, directly from url an extension of "page exists because you type its name"
Cool thread about how hard it is to think as hard about things as some flat earthers think about that question, and the difference between Science as orthodox, Science as method, etc etc.
the moment you add "snooze" or "mark unread" to a messaging system is the moment those innocent messages become a todo list
(pretty sure I got this from someone else but I couldn't find the source and wanted to have it as a standalone block to QT elsewhere. lmk if you know the original!)
Thread · Tasks vs urges as a design distinction for apps
Thinking about a really basic distinction between actions, that seems super relevant to product design. Do the actions in your app feel like: 1. TASKS: things to do, planned in advance 2. URGES: things I'm doing spontaneously Netflix shifted 1→2 with mail→streaming.
I asked @BlackForestBoi in a convo right now, to illustrate this point: when someone sees a new highlight has shown up in Memex, does that feel more like: 1. a new homework assignment 🙄 2. a new episode of a favorite TV show? 👀 Huge difference in UX based on that sense.
The task/urge dichotomy is reified by school & work contexts, where what we're supposed to do is almost ALWAYS in conflict with what we feel drawn to do. But we later bring that dichotomy into contexts where nobody is imposing it. Can learn not to:
The holy grail is being able to organize your life so that you spontaneously… A) generate B) follow …urges that move towards things that are satisfying, meaningful, purposeful. Rather than having there be a constant fight. Thing to do? Do it right now!
To some extent this is entirely a mindset thing—open tabs often function for people as todos, even though at other moments the same app/system might function in a more urge-driven way. Twitter tabs from days ago are implicit todos.
The particular controls in a given app/system do affect this though. I'm sometimes most on top of twitter DMs because they have the least possible amount of snoozing or anything like that.
My recent ruminations on reinventing tabs altogether are part of the thinking that's going into this, plus a conversation today with @BlackForestBoi about designing annotations into his app @worldbrain.
I'm getting better and better at this mindset, not worrying about trying to keep track of everything. Ideally would have best of both worlds (~= well-organized browser history) but in the meantime sometimes it's good to just let go.
I have a handful of ideas for systems that will help with generating & following purposeful urges. Some I'll build into complice.co, some will undoubtedly emerge as Roam plugins sooner or later, yet others I may need to seduce people into building for me!
For @CompliceGoals in particular, I've started ideating around a Now Page, that's even further in this direction than the Today Page already is, focused on just dialoguing with whatever you want to do in a given moment and making it even more clear & more awesome.
Retweeted @BlackForestBoi
@Malcolm_Ocean and me just had a convo about an inline highlight/comment function on his blog for having conversations…
I like funky stereo music, but I don't like when it causes me to wonder if one of my headphones is disconnected (by starting a song only in one ear)
So @QiaochuYuan sent me "eugene wei blog post about tiktok, feels maybe relevant to the omnitext + tuning stuff: eugenewei.com/blog/2021/2/15…" I was like "it's not time to read that atm, but man I am growing so averse to the idea of intending to do anything in the future" related:
"feel free to send it to me again if you think of it again" ...I added to QC 😂 I also tagged in in my roam ofc this is actually related to the omnitext idea itself, which is designed to surface things for you live when you or a friend is thinking about them, without planning
@Xtal @QiaochuYuan Hahaha yeah exactly. Which reminds me—I still haven't read Eugene's Status as a Service, which is a similar length.
What d'y'all think of @revue? (@twitter's substack competitor) So far my main opinion is that I immediately hate it because of how close its logo is to Pinterest's. (Also feels like a logo that should be tryna get me discounts or cheap food delivery, not send out my writing 🤨)
@ei8htohms it's true read my manifesto about how todo lists always go stale 👇👇👇 malcolmocean.com/2020/12/compli…
@utotranslucence ♥️ I FEEL you.
does anybody have a creative way to transport urges from their phone to their computer? (without a whole task manager) eg I just got an urge to port a lil Complice code to [[roam/js]] to make darktheme happen at a time of day but it's bedtime
Another #TwitterDayOff Tuesday! (I forgot to tweet it last night so I'm sending just this one tweet today) As usual, you can do pomodoros with me here: complice.co/room/twitter-d…
tagging @QiaochuYuan @forgingtowards @metaphrand_ @tasshinfogleman @AaronEstel @acidshill @meekaale @uberstuber @gwenshap (who did #TwitterDayOff Tuesday last week)
For those new to this whole thing and wanting to join us, I have a thread of tips for doing an effective #TwitterDayOff!
Logging my business expenses for tax reasons and man I fucking hate @intercom. Way too expensive for what it offers me. Literally represents like half of the fixed costs of running Complice. (Yes, competitors, this is your invitation to pitch me on a smooth transition.)
@mattgoldenberg does it work well async? maybe the thing I need is just— huh remarkably obvious actually in retrospect I need a messaging service that I check on my computer that has a *different* account on my phone than my computer so that I actually get a proper notification queue hmm
@meekaale @revue @Twitter @readwiseio ooooh thanks for the article, I liked the whole thing and am seriously thinking of buying some $TWTR probably would have last year if I'd been in a stock-buying mood, but I didn't even have a trading account I guess uncertainty around Tw vs Post-Tw 🤔
@acidshill hopeamine
Replying to @sarah_cone
@sarah_cone @DaltonDEmery Oh yeah, this reminds me I still haven't signed up for Column/ Since I got the invite, I kept thinking of it at moments that weren't the time. Gonna just do it now!
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna Wow that sounds like way too many steps 😂 I'll just live in a cave until the roam API is ready.
@meekaale that's legit but I bet it feels like a task later not an urge? or something? some Thing ?
@metaLulie Curious what your experience was of listening to it! Also you have a YT channel - what if we had a convo on your channel 🤔🥰🚀
@meekaale @QiaochuYuan ooh nice @jgreenhall said something about injustice in the context of musical harmony & resonance (not sure where) which I really liked and it reminded me of Miles righting Herbie's wrong:
@sarah_cone @DaltonDEmery Partially because I wanted to livetweet my experience of signing up: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…
Replying to @flancian
@flancian ah man I agree with you there in principle, but apparently it hasn't actually motivated me a few basic things about the chromium UI I haven't gotten oriented to switching from yet all about the outer layer though obviously, not engine which... meh.
@AskYatharth ummm kinda feeling of being creatively directed by a larger whole & surrendered to that is a central way I might describe my main experiences of both "dissolving self" and "non-doing"
@AskYatharth this seems right have I directed you at the PCT stuff yet? next on Oceanic College curriculum if not very relevant to all this, and a bunch of us are all checking it out this month (incl @QiaochuYuan @karmacustodian, &+)
Replying to @phr31nd
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Great intro thread to Perceptual Control Theory (PCT) This is one of the coolest, simplest+powerfulest models of the brain that I regularly use for understanding behavior and motivation. Highly recommended. twitter.com/EvadeHullu/sta…
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@EvadeHullu exactly! great intro thread. so a given regulator has an "ontum" which is the thing that both its reference level and its perception represent and onta at all levels are in some sense real, even though they also in another sense reduce to the levels below
@phantom_opus I mean The Master and his Emissary has like a thousand citations, including 400+ in the first chapter alone that is describing the hemisphere differences in great detail. Tons of sources from stroke patients to split-brain patients to Wada tests to animal studies.
@phantom_opus There's obviously a real thing, the question is just what the real thing is and why. And most people are sitting around with a model suggesting it approximately doesn't matter when basic "the brain doesn't evolve unlikely traits for no reason" says it must
@reweirding Nice! Do a thread on how McGilchrist relates to hypnotherapy? I'd love to read that!
@samlearns I take a kind of aggressive approach to this stuff and just say "nobody gets to reach me with certainty in any particular period of time, and many channels (eg LinkedIn or IG) might take weeks or months for me to notice." I give top contacts faster ways to message me.
@samlearns unfortunately these platforms are mostly closed to people integrating with them in the way you would want, because they want to lock people in also you might have this issue:
@mattgoldenberg @nosilverv @yashkaf it was @yashkaf but I know where to find it! (and I think I was the one who introduced it to you, on an early-lockdown virtual party that I think you hosted)
@mattgoldenberg @nosilverv @yashkaf the 2x2 is near the bottom of the thread
@samlearns Yes, agreed re that. If you haven't tried doing a concrete multi-month self-chosen self-directed project, I definitely recommend trying, to get a sense of what it even feels like! This post may help: malcolmocean.com/2015/11/just-d…
@Conaw @edelwax @MuseAppHQ @andy_matuschak @buster @peternlimberg @pwang @metaviv @jonathanstray @shancarter Yeah I'm playing around with this a bit in complice.co Here's a sneak peek of a half-implemented "meta-cognition module".
@Conaw @edelwax @MuseAppHQ @andy_matuschak @buster @peternlimberg @pwang @metaviv @jonathanstray @shancarter The folks at inqwire.io are doing something way deeper, but when I alpha-tested it I found it a bit flat for my own life situation & careabouts, which were too weird to suit their starting prompts iirc. Was a couple years ago, might be way better now!
@QiaochuYuan hmmm I recently had a dream where I finally made out with the girl I'd had a crush on for most of elementary & middle school but I kinda knew it was a dream while it was happening, & I was half-expecting her to fade into ephemeral nothingness and for me to be embracing nothing
@haveanicedavid @AbhayPrasanna @JimmyRis @Conaw @maxkriegers @marttimalmi WHoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I'm kinda into it. I like how the P2Pness is made like... really obvious by the fact that when I go to the site it doesn't look like twitter, I'm just immediately logged into an account that is locally generated or something.
@haveanicedavid @AbhayPrasanna @JimmyRis @Conaw @maxkriegers @marttimalmi How do we solve the Metcalfe's law problem though? Oh, I guess if it has privatey channels, I could just start using it as a place to ~DM friends but like, more twitter-flavored. Could be neat!
@haveanicedavid @AbhayPrasanna @JimmyRis @Conaw @maxkriegers @marttimalmi Okay so if other people go to this url, does it show my profile? iris.to/#/profile/stqv…
@samuelbars What are you working on? Might be a little hackathonish collab possibility or something perhaps! I like advising peoples' projects 🧐🚀
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This is a high school band practice in Wenatchee,WA
Me & @SarahMcManus listening to @eigenrobot podcast for the first time: …his voice! …is that Eigen's voice? …it sounds so nice! …were we… …expecting… …a robot voice? 🤣🤣🤖🤖
@mattgoldenberg @DaltonDEmery This sequel to HPMOR blew my mind. Idk what I would think of it now though. anarchyishyperbole.com/p/significant-…
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@DaltonDEmery a self-referential webcomic: 1/0 has the plus (or minus) of being *done*. it actually ends. once you've read it you don't have to check it for eternity! undefined.net/1/0/
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@metaphrand_ if you want a whole take on how it was evolutionarily adaptive, check out David Deutsch's book The Beginning of Infinity, which has an evolutionary model for self-coercion as bad for individual but necessary for stable culture: people doing effortful things they don't understand
@metaphrand_ he notes this is just one attractor in culture space: a static anti-rational society where change occurs but mostly by accident. the other attractor is stable but dynamic, oriented towards ever-clearer understandings of reality. no self-coercion needed
@catascopic @Aella_Girl you will want to know about laser socks glench.com/LaserSocks/
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@context_ing 🥰🚀 tweet/thread that I have found very helpful:
@_StevenFan Yo @_StevenFan what's happened with this so far? I am discerning that I would like to have like, a day a week where I sync up with someone who's also got deep writing to do and do some deep writing etc on the topics I've got all these thoughts about.
@utotranslucence @QiaochuYuan moved to Waterloo in 2010 for uni stayed because I met a small group of people doing next level Game B culture-design though left (just after the 10 year mark) due to some interpersonal tensions, wanting to not be in crazy snowy winter, and not wanting to settle there
@QiaochuYuan I don't think I got exposed to Calvin & Hobbes in any depth until I was too old for the connection to feel especially-close-as-a-kid. But I might've if I had.
@catascopic @Aella_Girl you need special hardware (and the whole @dynamicland1 OS/platform) to do it in as few lines of code as they do it but in principle you could probably do it with a webcam might need at least a 60fps webcam as sensor just because framerate 🤷
Post an image of yourself as the final boss. twitter.com/peternlimberg/…
I blatantly ignored the "without downloading new pics" since I couldn't figure out what it meant. I don't keep track of which of my pics are in the cloud vs not. I think in its original form it might've been for people posting meme images, and the idea is you don't get to search?
yeah, the oldest versions of this meme (which seem to all trace back to @WeftOfSoul!) are all like, pics of something other than your actual self by the time the meme reached me though it was all actual photos of the person posting twitter.com/WeftOfSoul/sta…
photocred for the final boss pic of me, above, btw, goes to @LordChisholm - great memories of Burning Man 2015 I went to the album and found this pic from the earlier in the week of the two of us (there are almost no photos of him ofc since he's usually behind the camera)
Oh cool, I just checked my own photos (looking for another one of Eric) and apparently I got this photo which is a PoV of the first photo! ie this was my view at the point Eric took the top photo of me cool to have that pair 🤩
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@DaltonDEmery Uhhhh, well, there's this 😬🤣 vimeo.com/80587948
pretty sure I realized this in my teens forgot about it then rederived it again years later at least twice
@MJPiercello @twinfrey @liminal_warmth I'm interested & intrigued by the level of thinking I'm seeing from you here @MJPiercello. Rare to see people actually sorting through the gears of cultural/biological causality around social dynamics. Nice to meet you! You might like this tweet of mine:
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this is like when parents chastise their teenagers for being antisocial and then when the kid starts to make an effort a…
Have you tried writing out privately what you actually think about things you don't feel comfortable talking about publicly or with the people involved? I find it incredibly liberating & sanity-inducing to just be able to go "yeah, that's indeed how I see it! is it? hm, & this"
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New Tom Cruise deepfake looks amazing (and, of course scary too) and is doing the rounds on Twitter. Quick technical bre…
@DRMacIver maybe slightly better would be something like # of people who have blocked them out of the people you follow or have followed you, or something like that
@RichDecibels I think the "share the experience of writing" frame would probably be safe enough in most contexts
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@pawnofcthulhu @yashkaf @QiaochuYuan @visakanv @selentelechia couldn't help but think of this meme
@RichDecibels this sick backflip
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@liminal_warmth well I literally just tweeted this seconds ago, and it's got the right energy
@ElodesNL wow that sounds awesome reminds me of the—very different—theatre show Too Much Light Makes The Baby Go Blind
Oh fyeah! Shuffle is "Bite sized networking for the Creator Economy" Feeling the continuity with a call I had with @Beehtrix last summer where I said "can I pay you to introduce me to an electronic artist who would pay to be introduced to me so we can collaborate?"
(which, btw, I am still looking for! I have some epic lyrics+melodies and I want to make some tracks!)
Also if you wanna seem my philosophy around collaboration, I've written some of it up in this twitter thread:
@itsLuciKeller Bullshit Offering Gullible Understanding to Suckers
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"Elephant in the brain" is a book about current social reality, not human nature.
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Almost everything is possible when you slow down. The only reason it _seems_ hard to slow down is because we're viciousl…
@xuenay I made maps for imaginary video games as a kid. Actually tried implementing them in Macromedia Flash at one or two points, but never finished. Well, I did make a flash game, but that was just a little platformer, not the sidescroller RTS I'd made all the maps for etc.
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very interesting, this app Antar lets you visualize your inner dialogues (or trialogues) and play out conversations betwee…
@aaronzlewis @krishkhubchand Oh cool seems like maybe they integrated my feedback! (That was actually solicited feedback, so that kinda makes sense.) Maybe I'll download the app again :)
@Beehtrix @bubble @beondeck @marcusustwo @JelmerPe @Heman_shu @ethcohen2 @bysandylin Oh fyeah, congrats dude!
people are telling me that it's ACX (this is what the about page says: astralcodexten.substack.com/about) I guess that's no less pronounceable than SSC "lemme acx you a question"
Thread · Telling a flailing party how to earn your vote · 6 of 7 tweets
Tired: vote for your preferred party 🤷🗳️ Expired: try to destroy the party you hate most 👈🤬 Inspired: tell a flailing party how they could credibly become the sort of thing you'd actually vote for 💡📈 astralcodexten.substack.com/p/a-modest-pro…
a whole new level of steelmanning wouldn't it be awesome to have both/all political parties have a meaningful platform with serious benefits, rather than scraps? these articles & conversations are part of what define the emerging new political axis meaningness.com/political-left…
interestingly, if we look at these 2 images from the article linked above, depicting the pre-1960s left & right ↙️ and the 1970s-2010s left & right ↘️ Scott's proposal is *close* to a return to the pre-1960s axis, but with the names reversed! (tho meaning of class has evolved)
For more on these topics, I've found the following two articles quite insightful: This one describes 3 distinct class ladders (labor, gentry, elite) that have very few ways to move between them, though some ways to move up within. indiepf.com/michael-o-chur…
This one talks about 4 classes in America based on 1 question: "how do they get most of their income?" > "Broadly speaking [...] it’s from one of four sources: - returns on investment - monthly salary - hourly wage - government welfare check" archdruidmirror.blogspot.com/2017/06/donald…
But both of those have some staleness and understandable cynicism in their takes, whereas the Codex/ACX post above feel fresh, alive, and encouraging.
Immediately followed @Meta_Pancake based on this thread. I want more takes like this, and more takes on how we can do useful stuff about it.
a reminder that variance in culture is still way too small for us to be confident what is intrinsic to human nature vs what is a product of social reality & trauma
even baboons have culture, which can change in persistent ways given certain perturbations, yielding a new set of equilibrium behavior never before seen in the entire rest of the species youtube.com/watch?v=A4UMyT…