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November 2020

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Retweeted @oloal

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming" -David Bowie twitter.com/RitaPanahi/sta…

Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot Yeah I think anyone who is actually excited about what's going to happen next (or has a likely outcome they think will be Actually An Improvement) is living in a very tiny reality bubble. Like in some sense an improvement to have Trump out, but overall trajectory still 📉⤵️

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@eigenrobot By "likely" here I mean something like "one of Biden/Trump get elected", which are both in some sense likely. Some substantial contesting of results also likely. 3rd party candidates not likely magical restoration of sane democracy & discourse not likely

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@maltybegray I bought like a dozen items from the Burning Man section of thrift stores (this is a thing in Berkeley in August; they save that shit all year) and took only 4 of them to Burning Man.

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Retweeted @natural_hazard

broke: shame is external and guilt is internal woke: shame is a psyop and guilt is your conscience bespoke: shame is…

Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

@maltybegray omfg my heart and other body parts

@mechanicalmonk1 @maltybegray baha I was all set to keep scrolling down my timeline being like "wow, yeah, @maltybegray's face looks so relaxed and open 🥰" and then I saw "other body parts" and I was like 🤔🧐😮😏

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

@nibrasibn @alt_visa I am *so* here for a Nibras alt 😋

@Elodes12 @nibrasibn @alt_visa Me too lmk.

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Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets

Not at 4k followers yet, but I'll hit it within a month or so at this rate. What shall I do when that happens?

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@jambarree 2-3 hyper-competent, aligned people would make it worth it, with no more than 5 hyper-competent aligned people that were turned off by it.

@mattgoldenberg @jambarree I'm down to have a look at a draft or something! (idk if I count as hyper-competent + aligned but offer stands in any case 🙃)

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa Yeah. I'm feeling into how to do this, and I think the kind of thing I'm gesturing at in this thread represents a kind of prototype both of how *I* can do this, and how others can. (Which is the nature of how I think: with an eye for generality.)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Wanting to write a thread on the larger meta-vision I have that inspired me to make this move. Initially wrote this in response to @andy_matuschak's response "Y'all, this attitude is rad", but wanted it to be a top-level thread because it's important and stands on its own. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Thread · Trauma healing as permission to know and feel what you do · 1 of 6 tweets

Healing from trauma amounts to learning that it is okay to know what you know, and feel what you feel. — Bessel van der Kolk (quoted from my notes of an out-loud remark, so maybe slightly paraphrased, hence no " marks)

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Thread · Complaining as affirming one's values and experience · 6 of 8 tweets

hot take re complaining: it is how people affirm their values and the reality & legitimacy of their own experience

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if someone is complaining, the best way you can care for them and for the overall situation is to find a way to dignify and support and welcome their values & experience, while not making anybody wrong (applies to self too, if you notice urge to complain)

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turns out that once someone feels sufficiently authorized to have their own experience and values, they actually tend to have a fair bit of space to consider that the person they're frustrated with... has its own integrity!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

An underappreciated implication of things like Core Transformation is that if you generalize it to other people, you realize… …the things your loved ones do that annoy you most are often precisely the ways in which they're most reliably able to care for themselves.

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But tbh probably they actually don't manage to reach the step where the person feels deeply authorized to have their own experience and values, and to trust and distrust who we trust and distrust

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Healing from trauma amounts to learning that it is okay to know what you know, and feel what you feel. — Bessel van der Kolk (quoted from my notes of an out-loud remark, so maybe slightly paraphrased, hence no " marks)

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Years of institutionalized gaslighting are hard to unlearn. But possible! Emotional reconsolidation can actually do this and restore self-trust, in way less time than it took to undermine peoples' self-trust so hard in the first place.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

hey remember how we went to school where we spent 8 hours a day for over a decade having what our bodies could do completely under the control of authority figures boy i wonder if that had any lasting effects

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Thread · Trauma healing as permission to know and feel what you do · 1 of 6 tweets

> The challenge of recovery is to reestablish ownership of your body and your mind—of your self. This means feeling free to know what you know and to feel what you feel without becoming overwhelmed, enraged, ashamed, or collapsed. Excerpt from book, via wbur.org/hereandnow/201…

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One of my favorite ways to think about the fall daylight savings change is that it's the one hour every year where you get to have a do-over.

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Replying to shreeda @freeshreeda ·

@BlakeAndOr Same

@freeshreeda @BlakeAndOr Y'all can have mine.

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Watch this space. I'm gonna make there be a co-watching & discussion event for Mother of All Demos, on Dec 9th. I could host, but open to @procrastiwork or @conaw or someone else hosting. I haven't seen the whole thing yet! (@peternlimberg do we want this to be on The Stoa?) t.co/1XnnvzSpGn

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Replying to Yanqing @YanqingCheng ·

Is there a snappy word for this by the way? "affirming others' perspectives on their terms" is a bit of a mouthful.

@YanqingCheng not aware of one. I might invent one soon if needed, although ofc it's so easy for these things to get pulled back into the old meanings. I often talk in terms of "welcoming" people (or parts) which captures some of it.

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Replying to Yanqing @YanqingCheng ·

There's so much stuff I want to write down and disseminate, scattered around all my notebooks and bookmarks. If I just get them all in one navigable, share-able place I will be happy.

@YanqingCheng I've been doing this on a public roam (intertwingled.blog) and it's working great!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@vgr @QiaochuYuan I'm experimenting with writing publicly on roamresearch.com, and its graph features seem to be solving some core challenges: 1. wanting to be able to reference ideas I haven't written a full post about 2. not wanting to post about something before my post is 💯

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sparkly lake video I invite you to watch it, and feel connected to Malcolm of 2mo ago who took it 💖

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Retweeted @normonics

Now ask: what is the utility of election forecast? twitter.com/normonics/stat…

This is a delightful thread.

Tony Lin @tony_zy ·

Obsessed with Taiwan’s “down-to-earth” Halloween party, where you ONLY dress up as normal people in everyday situations. This is “the woman looking for a seat at food court”:

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Replying to Yanqing @YanqingCheng ·

TIL 80% of people automatically breathe shallower or hold their breath in front of a screen - termed "screen/email apnea" As we spend more of life screen-bound, this might be contributing to the increasing stress and exhaustion folks are experiencing! lindastone.net/tag/screen-apn…

@YanqingCheng @m_ashcroft this is relevant to your work ^

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Replying to @JeremiahLee

@JeremiahLee You might dig this article about a chinese company that apparently has thousands of microenterprises and strikes and interesting balance between cooperation & competition. hbr.org/2018/11/the-en…

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@alt_visa I saw this thing that Stripe is doing, making it easy for merchants to put a small % of their revenue towards carbon removal, as a really fascinating non-obvious use of their scale as a global payment processor. And it reminded me of this thread.

Nan Ransohoff @nanransohoff ·

Today, carbon removal is behind. To get it to the required scale we need (1) a portfolio of many more carbon removal solutions than exist today (ie more supply), and (2) a large-scale market of buyers to purchase that carbon removal (ie more demand).

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@alt_visa

Nan Ransohoff @nanransohoff ·

No single business can create enough demand to scale carbon removal on its own. But we’re optimistic that with Stripe Climate the millions of businesses running on Stripe, collectively, can help grow and sustain this new industry.

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Really smart—using their scale to create a larger buyer for carbon offset solutions, encouraging more innovation there. I'm in with @CompliceGoals as soon as it's available in Canada! 🍁

Nan Ransohoff @nanransohoff ·

Many users have told us they want to take climate action, but don’t because figuring out what to do can be complicated. Stripe Climate makes it easy for businesses of any size to tackle climate change by funding frontier carbon removal: stripe.com/climate 🧵

[video]

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Replying to Juan @juanlanteri ·

We can jump in one of your "rooms"?

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: @juanlanteri I wanna talk with you about the thing you're building.

@juanlanteri the complice coworking rooms? they're actually mostly just for coworking, with a bit of chat in the breaks. we probably want a zoom call or something

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Replying to Chenoe Hart @chenoehart ·

@Malcolm_Ocean At a certain point after that level gaining followers may start to feel the same as losing them, because Twitter risks becoming less personable and interactive once you have a large enough account.

@chenoehart Yeah, one answer to this question might be "create a system that limits my follower growth". Have been thinking about that for a few months.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Thing I want: a twitter-API-system for limiting follower count by automatically blocking then unblocking anyone who follows you (eg unless you follow them) I will pay $50 for a solution to this. Chime in if you'd chip in 👇

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Replying to Will @anactofwill ·

@naval @pooja_LuvIndia @Malcolm_Ocean

@anactofwill @naval @pooja_LuvIndia Yeah, aware. I don't particularly want the number to grow at this point, tbh. I did when it was 1500-3000. Might find a way to slow it down though...

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Thing I want: a twitter-API-system for limiting follower count by automatically blocking then unblocking anyone who follows you (eg unless you follow them) I will pay $50 for a solution to this. Chime in if you'd chip in 👇

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Retweeted @BlackForestBoi

I would not categorically put this as a bad thing. It’s an interesting opportunity to define laws from the ground up, a…

Replying to Oliver Sauter @olivers_tools ·

I would not categorically put this as a bad thing. It’s an interesting opportunity to define laws from the ground up, and experiment with other ways of doing things. Afterall, international laws are also not perfect and I assume there will be tons of overlaps.

quoting @carolynporco: "SpaceX will make its own laws on Mars" & not recognize international laws. Proof that the kind of excess wealth that leads to power & influence leads also to unrestrainable, blinding hubris & arrogance, & thence to evil. This must be stopped now. https://t.co/skVt9UreLJ

@BlackForestBoi Yeah that was my thought when I saw it too. I think the crux is that yes, it wants to coordinate effectively with earth-based entities, and will thus (like any nation) need to have some capacity for dialogue with those entities.

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@maxkriegers is it time to build Glue yet? Can we make a chat app that lives on top of @RoamResearch? I am wasting many minutes of my day copying text out of various chat apps in order to have it in my notes or share it with other people.

Max @kinespheric_ ·

🗨️ can we augment our online chats with new affordances? 🧠 what does a conversational medium that supports *thinking* look like? 🔀 Is there a pathway from the linear, one-dimensional, immutable logs we call "online conversation"? I made a comic! a9.io/glue-comic/

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I'm serious about this. I have a sense of there being collaborative work I want to do in the world right now and people I want to bring together, and the existing apps (slack? 😒) are inadequate for this. Basecamp might suit if this work were less meta.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Wanting to write a thread on the larger meta-vision I have that inspired me to make this move. Initially wrote this in response to @andy_matuschak's response "Y'all, this attitude is rad", but wanted it to be a top-level thread because it's important and stands on its own. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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@Conaw @thepericulum could we get funding from the roam fund and/or roam fellowship to do this? (a couple additional features we might also need for this to work properly, like timestamped immutable blocks)

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I was laying down for my nap and realized that the other cool thing about immutable blocks is they can super-easily be shared between databases, since way fewer sync concerns.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Conaw @thepericulum could we get funding from the roam fund and/or roam fellowship to do this? (a couple additional features we might also need for this to work properly, like timestamped immutable blocks)

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Music playing so loudly in my head (Aunt Leslie by Vulfpeck) that when I went to step away from my computer just now I switched windows to pause it 😂 music.youtube.com/watch?v=ADR0rH…

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me to @maxkriegers: the reality is that "conversation" *is* the backbone of project & team management they're not separate that's, in some sense, the actual insight slack had they just... didn't know what good conversation looks like

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Fuck this remix of Purple Haze is happening and my hips are just going wild like that guy in the Turn Down For What music video (which if you haven't seen, look it up, it's bonkers) soundcloud.com/neonsteve/jimi…

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Somehow this electrofunk turned into something more like drum & bass. This is amazing. #nowplaying

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Thread · Why "trad" can't escape choice

Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

To all the modern secular ppl I see fetishizing tradition: As someone who came from an extremely traditional 1950s-style family, you think you want this but you probably don't actually

@Aella_Girl Part of the issue with trad is that it's almost completely arbitrary but pretends (incl to itself) that it's not and is actually fixed and known and involves no choices. 1950s are one image, but modernity isn't trad. Victorian era is another image, but it ain't trad either.

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@Aella_Girl <Whatever my parents are doing (or thought they were doing)> is also a common image. Same with most of what we think we know about huntergatherer cultures. Etc etc etc.

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@Aella_Girl Lots of inspirations, but you nonetheless have to choose. Can't go back to choiceless society, which is the main thing that all of these images of trad have in common! There is no default culture, in the same way there is no person who doesn't have an accent when they speak.

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@theorangealt @mynewtempname I have a ramble about a similar concept on my roamblog! I coined "Vital Factors", a slight nod to getting the concept from @aubreydegrey talk re how solving 5/7 of factors that cause senescence would barely extend life at all, even if 7/7 = immortality. roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…

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Replying to @peternlimberg

@peternlimberg @procrastiwork @Conaw Fyeah! Would need to be pretty long I think. The demo is like 90mins, so minimum 2h to include some discussion, maybe 2.5h if we wanted to go deep into talking about it. What are the next steps? (Feel free to DM me if that's easier for coordinating)

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Retweeted @Aella_Girl

@NaamahOrual @RealtimeAI @liminal_warmth I believe trans and enby people should be afforded full rights, access to bathroom…

@TristanMiano @eigenrobot > We need to have just a little bit more optimism. Let's just not rely on the presidency so much for that optimism. Agreed except I think we need neither optimism nor pessimism but courage. Not tough courage, compassionate and open courage.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@harveykrishna_ I've definitely seen multiple people fuck up their self-trust by making promises like this, either very explicitly or even just on a background emotional level. To a lesser extent, the stance of "hope" is such a promise, compared to ~courage. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @mattgoldenberg @Artiphon Mm, useful to clarify what you mean by "And no wrong notes" -- I think I know what you mean (none of the notes have to be wrong, the next notes can give a well-fitting context) but I think people are likely to interpret as "And don't make any of the bad wrong sounds!"

@SarahAMcManus @mattgoldenberg @Artiphon Oh oops, yes, thanks! I meant "no wrong notes no matter what you do", not "ensure there are no wrong notes" I love this way I phrased it a couple months ago 😆 > "notes that take a bit more ummm explaining to do if someone walks in on you."

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

But internalizing the bit from Victor Wooten made a huge difference! There's no wrong notes, just… notes that take a bit more ummm explaining to do if someone walks in on you. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to @sheherenow_

@jongold @mattgoldenberg @Artiphon > singing melodies and then figuring them out on guitar That's by far the main way I've written songs too! All of like 2 of my songs have actually had any instrumentation before I wrote the lyrics & melody.

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Replying to Mackenzie @aaaMackenzie ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Yeah a Bachelors of Education is a snakes nest. Frankly it's just a hedge. Everything good will come from outside the mainstream culture of education. Just like all my formative learning moments were due to mentor figures acting beyond their standard roles.

@RealMackenzieL Hmmm... yeah. Suggestion if you're gonna say in the program would be to something like, develop your own self-authored model of how education works, by also reading Alfie Kohn, Václav Havel, and also neuroscience stuff like Perceptual Control Theory or 👇 metalearn.net/podcasts/ml41-…

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@RealMackenzieL And then everything people try to teach you in school, assess both the content of it as well as the actual pedagogy being applied. Find contradictions. Ask "how would I design this better?" Try to teach people. Learn from them what does & doesn't work, and how to iterate.

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Replying to Abstract Fairy @AbstractFairy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Ok. I don't think I understand your point (you're an excellent writer, so this is probably on me) Personally, I view complaining from a purely pragmatic lens. If there's a problem, I want a solution. There is no reason for me to stay in negativity nor dump it on another

@AbstractFairy > (you're an excellent writer, so this is probably on me) Nah, communication is never only one person's responsibility! 💞🙂

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Replying to Abstract Fairy @AbstractFairy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I implicitly expect the same from others. I'll listen best I can then offer solutions. I refuse to comiserate & will politely ask to leave (arguing extensively just got me into more trouble than its worth) How do complaining, legitamacy, reality & values all tie into each other

@AbstractFairy So I'm very with you re commiserating. Literally "misery together". Doesn't help. But deeper under every complaint is something that's very *important* to someone. It might be something that consciously they can't even name. It also might be too big and obvious, like DIGNITY.

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@AbstractFairy To take a dignity example, consider someone complaining about their experience of being given the runaround by a bureaucracy. Part of what they're asserting is "this is demeaning. I am a person worthy of respect, and I know what it would mean to be respected and that was not it."

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@AbstractFairy And if you can find that level in the person's complaint, then separate from trying to solve it and separate from going into misery energy, there's a possibility to say (emotionally, maybe not these words) "Yes. You matter. Nobody deserves that fuckery, as common as it is."

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@AbstractFairy Does that make sense? I'm valuing your question in helping me find another way to articulate this! It's a very new idea for me—previously I would have said that my perspective on complaint was very similar to yours.

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Replying to @abhayance

@AbhayPrasanna @shawnpmurphy8 @DharamKapila @roamhacker lol I have very little idea. I've been a company of one person for 7 years, wearing all of the hats, so my venn is just a circle with thicc lines and a lot of labels inside. +1 to wanting this though

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Replying to Mike Smith @MrMikeSmith ·

@paigefinnn I forget who ran it. But before the pandemic i was invited to an event where someone makes a deck about why they should date you / your friend and presents it to an audience. I regret not going

@MrMikeSmith @paigefinnn Some UW Engineering friends used to host parties where you'd give a talk w slides (any topic). When talk title announced, MC would tell audience (but not presenter) a word to all take a drink on. Prize for closest to 3 mins without going over. Hit 3mins, down a drink & continue.

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Replying to nibras ꩜ @heynibras ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I actually love you? This is love I'm feeling

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@nibrasibn torn between a flirty gif and something more like

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Replying to nibras ꩜ @heynibras ·

you may have a 2nd brain but do you have loving twitter mutuals who act as your 3rd brain? ♥️💞

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: @nibrasibn hello! I snoozed this tweet for a month to come back and reply to it and remind you about it ☺️

@nibrasibn based repetition

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Replying to Bushra Farooqui 📖 🕯️ @startuployalist ·

@Malcolm_Ocean There’s a sense that the other people also see some parts and in seeing, they offer consent to join you to fully flesh it out

@startuployalist Exactly! And as you can tell by the meta-vision thread above, I'm very into honoring the unique magic of each individual :)

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Replying to Andy Matuschak @andy_matuschak ·

@Malcolm_Ocean This thread was really striking, Malcolm! One wondering: when/how do you think it's appropriate to "push" energy into a task as a bootstrapping mechanism? With some things, I'm not excited at first, but once I make myself do them for a while, they become energizing!

@andy_matuschak Mmm, yeah. Great question and not one I have a simple answer to. On the deepest level, I'd posit this is usually at least in part an indication of some lack of integration: - I enjoy X - I should X - I don't want to do what I should! - I don't do X

Guy @nosilverv ·

So, sharing the following (with permission) because its so perfect its basically a VIGNETTE for how inner work goes when it goes perfectly. Straddle on: First thing - a problem, in the form of a surprisingly intense emotional reaction

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@andy_matuschak Another big piece is something more about mood/mode switching and inertia, where like, your system has a hard time imagining what it'll feel like to be in a completely different mode, so if you imagine doing something that's incompatible with the mode you're in, it feels ughy.

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@andy_matuschak 3rd piece: something around flow when you first start something, even getting yourself in the groove might be hard, whether: learning a new skill → familiarity creates comfort starting a project ex nihilo → increased surface area means more options of what to work on

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@andy_matuschak A bonus piece: sometimes I've found it quite motivating to think of my future self as someone I want to care for, and to do work in service of setting my future self up to do good work. Cleaning my room (& closing tabs) before a weekend of intensely focused coding, for instance.

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Replying to PJ Eby @pjeby ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @xuenay @mattgoldenberg IOW, treating a person with respect is all well and good, but as soon as you get to the level of the software the person is made of, there is no longer any personhood for that respect to be aimed at: it would be like offering polite greetings to somebody's fingernail.

@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg I think we have pretty different paradigms here. I think that software is an inadequate metaphor for the evolutionary process that happens in a brain, and that orienting to one's own thoughts as sacred is actually appropriate. They're not people, but they're not machines.

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@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg Something doesn't need personhood to be possible to respect or disrespect. One can respect or disrespect a forest, for instance. Or a river. Or any ecosystem! A human mind is a memetic and semantic ecosystem, and one can have a basic regard of respect for its complexity.

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@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg On a different level of abstraction, most of what's going on in the brain, information-theoretically, is (afaict) more analogous to ppl talking than to computer APIs. Bottom-up, emergent, distributed, parallel, redundant, perspectival, etc. Basic vibe can be argue or dialogue

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Replying to PJ Eby @pjeby ·

@xuenay @Malcolm_Ocean @mattgoldenberg Ah. The joys of Twitter data compression, I see.

@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg I think what @xuenay said is partly true but I actually am gonna bite that bullet he kindly tried to take out of my mouth 😆

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg I think we have pretty different paradigms here. I think that software is an inadequate metaphor for the evolutionary process that happens in a brain, and that orienting to one's own thoughts as sacred is actually appropriate. They're not people, but they're not machines.

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Bella Rudd @BellaRudd1 ·

a limerick on becoming more open to self-love (lube not included). a fate we can try to escape by exploring how self-love takes shape as your opening narrows just shove in some eros and find yourself much more a-gape

quoting @nosilverv: Ok so my mind is exploding and I need to share it: we're all confused because we think of love as romantic love (eros) instead of self-less love (agape). This is why you can't love yourself, and how you can:

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Replying to meadowsweet @umbersorrow ·

@Malcolm_Ocean there's only one thing to do, smash up the temple

@umbersorrow

Bella Rudd @BellaRudd1 ·

roses are rose violets are violet your body's a temple now let me defile it

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Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Practice being weird when the stakes are low so you'll be ready when it counts.

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twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…

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Joscha Bach @Plinz ·

@eigenrobot @St_Rev Seriously, that is why the courts maintained jesters. The jester was insulated from the social hierarchy, he had no way to gain or lose status.

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Wtf is the biz model of those store plugins like @Klarna that let you pay in installments. Usually the way installments work, like a lease or buying a laptop that way is they cost more than original. But I've now seen multiple where it's identical. Guessing merchant gets less.

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Like my guess is that the premise is that this thing increases the conversion rate enough that it's worth having smaller margins because you're selling more. Ah So instead of selling for $252, customer pays $63×4mo, and you get <$252, probably up front

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Ah yep, from "Klarna for business": > You get paid right away, in full, while your customers get the option to pay later. Wait though, but "in full"? 🤨 But then how does Klarna make money? Ah, just 6% flat fee, maybe even *if* customer pays up front 😬

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This is... better than App Store (30%). But usually for physical products, which have way tighter margins than software. Well, software doesn't have "margins" at all, since it's usually zero marginal cost. amzn.to/3jPct6t

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Anyway, I haven't looked into it in depth but I have a hazy sense that Klarna will be bad for many businesses, in much the same way Groupon was.

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don't do anything that is not within your power to do

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Replying to Tom Bielecki @tombielecki ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Klarna My understanding is the interest rate for failed payments is insane and makes up for all the people who are paying on time

@tombielecki @Klarna Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that is also genius and kind of exploitative but also not exactly abnormal. In fact, basically equivalent to credit card companies, who make money when people don't pay off within a month.

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Current mood: caffeinated latte + drum & bass

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Fuck this remix of Purple Haze is happening and my hips are just going wild like that guy in the Turn Down For What music video (which if you haven't seen, look it up, it's bonkers) soundcloud.com/neonsteve/jimi…

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Retweeted @leekeifon1

Recently I’m trying to build Roam into a literature programming environment on Python (one step closer to emacs). Using the…

Obviously we need a @ThreadHelper+@RoamResearch integration with block search and inbox capture. @Conaw+@thepericulum does @nosilverv have access to the Alpha API yet?

leekeifon @leekeifon1 ·

ThreadHelper is pretty neat and I find myself writing tweet as fluent as I were in Roam. But, the question is, how could I record the idea that emerged when writing tweets, into Roam?😂 #roamcult

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Replying to Jess (in Porto) @frideswyth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Seems like you couldn’t anyway (but I guess you’ll get hurt if you try)

@ssica3003 Yes, well spotted—this is an intentionally tautological piece of advice that is literally impossible to fail at 🙃 If I had meant "don't try" I would have said "don't try" 😜 So I guess also sort of a koan? Where by koan I maybe mean shitpost (thx @nosilverv)

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Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

you wouldn't get anywhere like that you must do things that are just outside of your power to do

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: don't do anything that is not within your power to do

@mechanicalmonk1 I actually really like this and I am glad that my tautological absurd tweet inspired yours and is now visually nested in it 💗

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Thread · Becoming the person who makes needed things happen

TBH it's a lil aspirational atm, although I have a proof of concept: I've demonstrated my capacity to have a vision & execute on it, by building complice.co —and I've long attributed its success to these meta 2 skills more than eg coding/mktg

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@webdevMason Tech things I'd never touched before I started building complice.co:😮 - sending/receiving emails on server (thanks @Mail_Gun) - databases - caching - templates (mustache) - accounts, login, password hashing - javascript+audio - https / SSL - payments (thanks @stripe)

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The place I'm trying to level up at at the moment is the skill of inspiring, encouraging, and empowering others to make things happen that I see as needing to happen. (Also to access their own visionary capacity, ofc—also a thing that needs to happen!)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Thing I want: a twitter-API-system for limiting follower count by automatically blocking then unblocking anyone who follows you (eg unless you follow them) I will pay $50 for a solution to this. Chime in if you'd chip in 👇

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Honestly I'm still not that good at this 😂 but I'm practicing and it's pretty low-cost to practice so far🔰 This "meta-vision" thread that I made is part of me feeling into this in a way that's energizing to me, on like 3 levels of abstraction at once!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

This is inspired for me in part by tapping into what for me is the answer to "what can I do that releases energy rather than requiring energy?" and finding the answer being something on the design/vision/strategy level that every company needs. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Here's an interesting question: who would role models in this be? Ideas? There are founders/leaders, but like, I want to be the Paul Erdős of design-strategy, showing up and saying "my brain is open, let's jam" (he's a mathematician who went around to others saying that)

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

i feel like the left keeps trying to police my thoughts, and the right keeps trying to police my actions

@Aella_Girl defund the thought police

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

@limitoftruth ah, so good news is 👇 bad news is we applied to @mozillabuilders and they were like ❌ so if you wanna create some sort of petition or lobbying group -- it would be really fast to do it with their support lol, and yes i very much everyone to have acess x.com/nosilverv/stat…

quoting @nosilverv: @EggProphet absolutely.

@nosilverv @limitoftruth @mozillabuilders converting chrome extensions to firefox extensions is pretty easy these days afaik someone took the Complice New Tab Page extension (which is more complex because "new tab page" is more browser specific) and just tweaked a few things and it was ready to go should not take long

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Replying to @VectorOfBasis

@VectorOfBasis @eigenrobot > "You have a set amount of «weirdness points». Spend them wisely." If you think of it like that, you're treating weirdness points like some allowance you get from The Man 🤨😬 Here's a better metaphor: You need to *invest* your weirdness points 📈🧑‍🎤 #MetaphorsMatter

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Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean

@VectorOfBasis @eigenrobot > "You have a set amount of «weirdness points». Spend them wisely." If you think of it like…

Replying to !pip install humaning @thisis_water ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Why I think this works: - gives credit to teachers but makes no claim about their perfection - says "inadequacies *you* may find", acknowledging the role of the reader in forming judgements but - also acknowledges the possibility of imperfection without assigning blame to anyone

@thisis_water Nope. Still directly implies your own teachers had no inadequacies, either in their understandings or their ability to communicate them to you.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @simiansunny You literally used the exact words “honour” and “mistakes” in your second tweet and spent the rest of the thread trying to figure out how to communicate that (Not a point against you—you were trying other things as well, and you came up with some fun wordings 😊)

@AskYatharth @simiansunny Nah it must have been better than that, because I don't like your new phrasing but apparently I did like the one you originally said was nice.

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

@Malcolm_Ocean @simiansunny I find this patterns happens a lot. Mentee: “I don’t know how to phrase this.” Me: “What do y…

Replying to Mackenzie @aaaMackenzie ·

@Malcolm_Ocean More names to the study list. Thanks :) I appreciate your recommendations

@RealMackenzieL @AskYatharth about his experience of matriculating to Oceanic College, which is our playful highfalutin way of saying "Malcolm sometimes gives you book recommendations and then you talk about them" (no mandatory anything; entirely appetite-driven, like learning needs to be)

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@TristanMiano @eigenrobot Yup +1 to this. Courage is like curiosity, top left of this diagram. top right is pure optimism bottom right is pessimism and bottom left is ~panic see @yashkaf thread for deets)

Jakeup @myhandle ·

Good news, everyone, I figured it all out! Yes, all of it: free energy, the entropic brain, mental disorders, postmodernism, rationality, and psychedelics. Now y'all can wait a couple of weeks for me to write a careful post with links. Or, you can strap in for a manic tweetstorm.

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I have actually got used to having this clipboard history thing now, and it feels like having a few extra virtual hands.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Oh yeah, I have had one of these on ubuntu for years ("diodon") and I sort of forget about it except when I need it. Any other suggestions for simple life-changing tweaks to workflows? twitter.com/nosilverv/stat…

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@TristanMiano @eigenrobot @yashkaf Although there might need to sort of be some other dimension or something, that's related to like... the world can have consistent learnable patterns, while also being *complex & emergent* rather than actually fully predictable. So control always partial:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Something granted me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, and the courage to change the things I can. Nobody told me what to do about the things that are a bit of both. New blog post on this 👇 malcolmocean.com/2019/10/the-ch…

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Replying to Abstract Fairy @AbstractFairy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Aha! Now I get it. Thank you :) It's a similar dynamic to fishing for compliments I'm bad -> tell me I'm good Complaint -> tell me I'm worth more than how the world treats me / the world is wrong, I'm good This tweet made it click for me x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: @AbstractFairy To take a dignity example, consider someone complaining about their experience of being given the runaround by a bureaucracy. Part of what they're asserting is "this is demeaning. I am a person worthy of respect, and I know what it would mean to be respected and th

@AbstractFairy > Complaint -> tell me I'm worth more than how the world treats me / the world is wrong, I'm good Yeah, that's the dualistic zero-sum answer. The upward spiral comes from recognizing that somehow everyone is acting with integrity, just poorly organized🤔

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

turns out that once someone feels sufficiently authorized to have their own experience and values, they actually tend to have a fair bit of space to consider that the person they're frustrated with... has its own integrity! twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@eigenrobot I think one of my implicit assumptions as a baby conversationalist slash internet argumentarian was "I have to address everything you put on the table" – which is great in some contexts but it's also a "press this to hijack my time and attention" button

@visakanv @eigenrobot ^ yo visa I would love to have a version of your rpg strategy guide but like, one level of abstraction down, that includes stuff like this learning

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

twitter_rpg_strategy_guide.txt

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Replying to Joe Edelman @edelwax ·

@peternlimberg @Malcolm_Ocean @procrastiwork @Conaw @utotranslucence Good idea. Let’s invite some @Dynamicland1 people

@edelwax @peternlimberg @procrastiwork @Conaw @utotranslucence @Dynamicland1 Oh hell yeah. When? Saturday between noon & 4pm eastern time would work well for me. Could also do Sunday same time. (Intentionally picking same rough window as SDC since I know that works tz-wise for both Joe & Freyja.)

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Thread · A three-phase pathway into emotional reconsolidation · 5 of 6 tweets

Phase 1: Get a taste of therapeutic reconsolidation: • start with something you feel motivated to change • use a technique you feel safe with / attracted to Outcome: feel a sense of the reality of emotional reconsolidation and of the limbic brain.

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Phase 2: Cultivate & integrate active appetite to do more, both by finding other things that already feel juicy, and by prioritizing therapeutic reconsolidation on any resistance that comes up. Outcome: get buy-in from all of your parts to resolving differences via ~dialogue

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Phase 3: Then with full-buy-in stance, go wild! Let yourself work on everything else as it arises. Give in to the urge to integrate. And maybe like me this prompts you to reach out to a therapist in a modality you feel excited about, or you get training in a technique. Whatever!

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Replying to 𝖜𝖔𝖒𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍𝖔𝖚𝖙 𝖆 𝖈𝖆𝖚𝖘𝖊 @goblinodds ·

ACAB

quoting @Aella_Girl: i feel like the left keeps trying to police my thoughts, and the right keeps trying to police my actions

@goblinodds

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Aella_Girl defund the thought police

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania @xuenay @mattgoldenberg @nosilverv @pjeby BioEmotive / NEDERA is a really great self-applied technique because the energetic waves of emotion released have a kind of momentum to them so it's easy to not get stuck or bored or lost (compared to eg Focusing). Not for everybody though as quite intense.

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Q: What's been your main personal growth vector over the past few years?

kevin simler @kevinsimler ·

Q: What's been your main personal growth vector over the past few years?

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Thread · Why policing "unnatural" behavior isn't a paradox · 7 of 8 tweets

There's an apparent paradox around the policing of sexual norms by saying "X is unnatural" because in some sense one might imagine that if it were unnatural then why would anyone want to do it and thus why would policing even be necessary?

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Paradox goes away when you realize that while there are undeniably some biological urges, almost all of human behavior is profoundly meme-driven and memetic evolution outclasses biological evolution...

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...so fitness of behavior can end up being more efficiently selected for on meme levels, which means the genes no longer select for those behaviors but rather for the ability to follow memes. And for memes' abilities to make people follow them.

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Hence sexual policing of "unnatural behavior" is actually part of that process, not a contradiction to it, hence there's not actually a paradox here!

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Source #2: The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch for the level of memeplexes and their attractors amzn: amzn.to/2I5qz6Q

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@meditationstuff @FateOfTwist_ @DavidDeutschOxf provides a very clear & simple explanation for this in his book The Beginning of Infinity. The jist is that in memetic evolution, one fixed point is "no innovation". Traumatizing people into non-awakenedness makes them uncreative. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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This idea I've had is a few years old; I was prompted to write it up based on someone saying a related thing in a slack I'm on.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@cognazor Yep. And consider the puzzle: "If gender roles are natural, why do people put effort into policing them?" plus "If they're being enforced by memetic selection, what effect would that have on genetic selection pressures?"

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Really great thread on NNN. Captures a lot of the nuance of how to do it in a non-coercive way, why you might want to do it, and who it might or might not be a fit for.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

3 people asked me about it when i mentioned it on alt so i'm giving myself a one-time exception to No Opinions November to do a thread on No Nut November. will attempt to keep the opinions to a minimum but no guarantees this thread will be pretty specific to cis men

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Thread of feature requests for @ThreadHelper (First: this is fucking awesome. I meant to beta-test but twitter was refusing to export my archive 😕) Stoked to give creative suggestions now! @nosilverv @ExGenesis

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@ThreadHelper feature request #1: I want to be able to ctrl+click to open the tweets in a new tab rather than copy-pasting NBD, only one more step, but still: pretty straightforward, intuitive behavior. Easy to implement.

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@ThreadHelper feature request #2: left side is currently doing nothing. What if, instead, it showed a preview of tweets that are being manually-QT'd?

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Thread · Self as a selfing function among parts

What is Self? I like to think of it as a "selfing function". Since you only have one body and one mouth and one "attention" in some sense, *somehow* your system needs to answer the question of "what do I do, say, and think about or attend to?" Different parts generate candidates.

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Different parts generate candidates, but something has to perform some sort of aggregation & selection function, and my take is that that *something* is not a "part" in the same sense as other brain modules being "parts". Maybe a different kind of part? Or maybe more emergent…🤔

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Maybe I'm just literally defining "part" as the things that generate candidates and "selfing function" as the thing that selects. That seems about right, actually. Note: "self" in this sense is wider than IFS Self, in that something necessarily must always be performing this fn

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However, it is common for it to be performing it quite poorly, which looks like stuckness or oscillation because conflicting urges are unable to be reconciled. Perceptual Control Theory describes these dynamics in depth.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The 10 percent of the brain myth is actually onto something! ...but it's not that 90% isn't not in use—it's that... most people have 45% fighting another 45%, so on net there's 10% useful capacity.

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One image I have found very evocative (tho way anthropomorphized) is of the Self sitting at a desk and getting constant inputs from parts, who are coming up and delivering verbal reports as well as folders of information and so on, and they're relating to these parts.

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Common, dysfunctional Self is overwhelmed and feels victimized by parts. It expresses irritation at what seems to it like irrelevant or false information (eg coming from emotional flashbacks). A kind of "you should know better", but no adequate explanation of why.

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Can also have Self that has an appreciative stance. Imagine them saying "yes, thank you", "great, I'll have a look", "oh, false alarm but thanks for letting me know". And if conflicting or surprising info, a curious orientation, assuming the confused part was missing vital info.

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(Seems plausible to me that these two general approaches might correspond to left & right hemisphere somehow, although there's obviously way more going on than that. But frustration is very LH-characteristic, and RH is way better at holding conflicting perspectives comfily…🤔💭)

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Another image I've had is of my Self being like a dad, & all of my thoughts being kind of like kids clamoring for attention… there's a sense of like, I can't read each kid's favorite story at the same time, but I *do* actually have enough *love* for all of my kids at once!

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And importantly, I can communicate my limits/boundaries/choices/etc to my kids in a way that makes them feel bad for even asking for attention, or in a way that dignifies them and appreciates their desire & request. I've been learning to shift this in relation to my thoughts!

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Same day I first realized this, I was musing under my breath about something, and my attention trailed off, and I was like "or whatever the hell I was talking about" then I was like "wait—no. NOT whatever the hell. that thought was sacred, even if I'm choosing not to explore it."

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I've been talking about this stance with @pjeby lately and he thinks that this is absurd because the brain is software and not deserving of respect (nor disrespect), but I feel like I can now point more precisely at what I mean, here.

PJ Eby @pjeby ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @xuenay @mattgoldenberg IOW, treating a person with respect is all well and good, but as soon as you get to the level of the software the person is made of, there is no longer any personhood for that respect to be aimed at: it would be like offering polite greetings to somebody's fingernail.

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I don't know that much about machine learning, but I know a little. I also don't know that much about neuroscience & neurochemistry, but I know a little. It seems to me that the two stances above probably have a distinct neurochemical signature and the loving one learns better.

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Without claiming much specifically, I would say that this almost certainly has something to do with serotonin, as evidenced by: • neuroplasticity anti-correlated with depression • REBUS model that talks about better brain communication on psychedelics (serotonin system)

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What is serotonin's deal, anyway? These words I came up with as attempts to pithily evoke it sound suspiciously like the Core States one gets to in Core Transformation 🧐

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@QiaochuYuan "hope" is great for dopamine—nice! Translation attempts for serotonin: - fullness - okayness - satisfaction - abundance - security - dignity sources: various things, including its relevance to food-satiety & these vivid 🤯 paragraphs from @s_r_constantin srconstantin.wordpress.com/2017/09/12/pat…

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The image QT'd just above talks about high serotonin as being "secure high status". I suspect <whatever that looks like for you> is the spacious & integrative IFS Self, more so than your preconception of what "talk to yourself lovingly" implies.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

PSA: if the idea of "talk to yourself lovingly" sounds awful, consider that your concept of what "lovingly" is might be someone else's concept—you need to find your own instead. As just 1 example: excerpt of an exchange I had with myself 2y ago: loving, also hardass-&-knows-it. twitter.com/fvathynevgl/st…

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Okay, long enough thread for now! I've got an existential dance party to rock out at 💃🤸‍♂️ As always, it's important to remember that the desk & dad metaphors above aren't literally true, because of homunculus issues. But the thing they evoke seems central to what Self is, to me.

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @limitoftruth @mozillabuilders who was that and how do i get them to do that for me/us

@nosilverv @limitoftruth @mozillabuilders a random Complice user 🤷‍♀️ But like, when I said easy... I'm reviewing the diff from their pull request and the changes were literally: - add <meta charset="utf-8"> - escape html insertion - add a couple things to manifest.json - upgrade angularjs version to latest basically it

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I'm only slightly surprised, but I am *disappointed* that when I search twitter for "election", almost nobody is talking about how few of the votes have been counted yet due to mail-in stuff. @FiveThirtyEight doing okay tho:

FiveThirtyEight @FiveThirtyEight ·

Here’s a look at the FiveThirtyEight pre-election snake chart without the states projected by ABC so far: (*Colorado is the closest state to the tipping point to be called. The other states toward the middle of the chart have yet to be decided.) 53eig.ht/32d0Sbt

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I had sorta thought of this (Thanks @ThreadHelper) a couple weeks ago but alas I do not have infinite reach.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Thinking about Nov3, and mail-in voting delays, and about how it might be strategically important to deemphasize the significance of that date. Sure, it's logistically relevant, and there will be news. But the news won't include who wins. "voting day", not "election day"

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Replying to Nate Silver @NateSilver538 ·

I love the Needle, etc. but analyzing anything based on election night returns is tricky just because we've never had this huge Election Day vs. early split along partisan lines before. Increases uncertainty, and means you should revert a bit back to 50/50.

@NateSilver538 *sigh* Nate fucked up a lil phrasing it as "a bit back to 50/50". Half the replies think he means "move it to 50/50" even though "a bit" clearly implies "towards 50/50" if you slow down to read. Something like "move it away from extremes" probably woulda worked way better.

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Replying to Nathan Braun @nathanbraun ·

@Malcolm_Ocean betting odds price all that in though, and not looking good for biden maximwebsite.tripod.com/President2020.…

@nathanbraun huh, yeah. given serious possibility of biden landslide based on polls, and that that's clearly not happening, makes sense it would drop surprised it hit 70% trump though given uncounted early ballots etc but I don't have skin in the game (betting-wise) here so 🤷‍♀️

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Retweeted @eigenrobot

"white men were the Heroes of this election" twitter.com/MattBruenig/st…

Replying to Kevin @kevin_bowen ·

<very bluecheck voice> Good news, after carefully crunching the numbers on tonight's election returns, I have conclusively determined who the real racists are

@kevin_bowen yikes twitter.com/MattBruenig/st…

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Retweeted @sentientist

Watching the election results right now is like taking a pregnancy test 5 minutes after you have sex.

Retweeted @kimmaicutler

As expected, we won’t know the result of the presidential election tonight. Thankfully, local election administrators are…

Replying to Venkatesh Rao ☀️ @vgr ·

Since this is a livetweet of the election I must capture this inevitable inflammatory tweet. Now *this* is different from every other election.

@vgr Twitter has blocked. Can see QTs though, which is interesting. And ofc they're mostly about blockedness of it. I think it would be helpful if it specifically clarified how it's misleading: "Polls are closed; votes are still being counted. This is ordinary election process."

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> Can think long-term again Am also looking forward to this, although Permaweird makes that... well, weirder. Still, > 50% reduction in scenario planning complexity for us futurists definitely helps

Venkatesh Rao ☀️ @vgr ·

Things to look forward to tomorrow - Breakfast burrito - 50% reduction in scenario planning complexity for us futurists - Grand narratives are back. Dark age! - Can think long-term again - Great Weirding officially over, and into the Permaweird - Anthropocene Whiskey Sour

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@vgr Twitter has blocked. Can see QTs though, which is interesting. And ofc they're mostly about blockedness of it. I th…

@vgr I mean I can see why they don't do that. I really can. But still. Not having it there just makes it yet that much easier for each side to project their reality bubble onto the tweet. Oh I guess maybe also not quiiiite as simple as my summary above.

🐿squirrel conscience embodied🐿 @NiaLovelis ·

twitter marked this tweet with “some or all of the information in this tweet may be misleading.” if you are already in line when the polls close, you still have the right to cast your vote!!! the president doesn’t even know this... lol

quoting @realDonaldTrump: We are up BIG, but they are trying to STEAL the Election. We will never let them do it. Votes cannot be cast after the Polls are closed!

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Replying to Elodes @ElodesNL ·

I always hear artists complain about how unsatisfied they are with their own works, but whenever I make something, I adore the *heck* out of it because it's created specifically to be the kind of thing I love. Is this so uncommon? 🤔

quoting @ElodesNL: 1. I finished writing a series of short stories that I'd been working on for >2 years! Across two days I was just feeling incredibly motivated to write, and wrote a whole lot. Gems, the whole bunch of 'em 🥰Feels very rewarding to have the series finished now.

@Elodes12 Yeah I feel this way about most of the songs I write. Even my album from 2012 (👇) or my old youtube videos or whatever, I know there are all sorts of technical improvements I could make but there's a feeling of "YES! This!" maleidoscope.bandcamp.com

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Replying to @_Rian_Stone

@_Rian_Stone author of thread is trans, fwiw

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

This man just solved woo. Pack your bags, go home, get a hobby in tea or something.

quoting @exgenesis: God: Agapic love Pagan gods: distributed archetypes Soul: Unconscious Consciousness: self-attention Chakras: embodied emotions Spirits: semi-autonomous thought processes Demons: distributed processes that undermine God Magic: subtle information transfer

@AskYatharth I have a ramble here about how unconsciousness isn't actually a thing. It's... multiple things! intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…

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In an interesting turn of events, Trump is trying to call the election before enough votes are counted, and Fox News is not, so Fox is thus "democrat fakenews thieves". I can see the logic, within the filter bubble. Very curious to see if this lasts & becomes widespread. twitter.com/222t/status/13…

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Would be an interesting parallel in absurd extremism to when very liberal people/organizations who refuse to toe the wokeist line get branded by them as "right-wing". Haven't seen as much of that in the opposite direction, so far (but may have just missed it)

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Never a bad time to link to this article that puts out meaningful definitions of "liberal", "progressive" and "conservative" such that you can be all 3 at once, btw. "Left" & "Right" have meant dozens of things at different times in history, & places. everythingstudies.com/2018/12/06/i-l…

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They all seem like worthwhile qualities! - liberal = live & let live - progressive = try to improve things - conservative = don't wreck shit while improving And as far as I can tell, the two US presidential candidates atm are not particularly outstanding on any of them 😕🤷‍♀️

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Nothing's surprising at this point, but notice how Biden is not speaking whatsoever to the half of America who voted Trump. He could be addressing their concerns about fraud or stolen election, but he's pretending those concerns don't exist/matter.

Joe Biden @JoeBiden ·

Keep the faith, guys. We’re gonna win this.

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I suspect at most 30% of Trump voters (maybe way fewer) would be able to usefully get anything out of him acknowledging those concerns—by which I don't mean any sort of concession about facts, just "I know some of you are concerned about voter fraud, and that's important." etc

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My guess is that that 30% are relatively silent, so it's hard to imagine that they're out there—and that's if you're even trying to track what Trump supporters are saying at all. Is Biden? Does he realize he's running for president of *all* Americans, not just half? Unclear.

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(Trump obviously in some sense actively doesn't, to be clear. And his base seems to have an almost sadistic energy about the idea of winning and getting to dominate the US with their policies, getting off on the idea that many people aren't going to like those policies.)

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The growing loudness of the partisan political contest increasingly obscures the idea of democracy.

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There are lots of issues to be fixed with this idea but I continue to think it's onto something really important about incentives. Probably too late for this to fix polarization though.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Novel voting system idea 💡 Ranked choice plus in order to win the winner needs >67% of people to have actually ranked them at all. Any candidate acceptable to less than ⅓ of population simply disqualified. No more alienating half the population while riling up your base.

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One fixing idea: succession to speaker 👇 (remember: in countries like the UK & Canada (where I live 🍁) the head of state is "the leader of whatever party got the most seats in parliament", so this actually falls back on a very well-tested system tbh.)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@BlackForestBoi This could be a situation where… say this were instituted for the US Presidency, and this result happened (which it probably would this year 😔). Succession etc would give the seat to the Speaker of the House, who presumably still exists. Not ideal, but vaguely reasonable.

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"GET IN THE CAR", said the cactus person

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a little late for Halloween but I just had a cursèd idea: a spreadsheet app but one or two cells are always slightly crooked or askew

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"The right hemisphere is less worried about going crazy than the left, because it's much more in touch with how much sanity is embedded in your environment." - @SarahAMcManus to me & @thepericulum

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Retweeted @thepericulum

Social distance Roaman chill in Toronto @Malcolm_Ocean @SarahAMcManus and @Beehtrix

Retweeted @tasshinfogleman

if you are making a product the best thing that can happen to you is that malcolm or someone like him gives you specif…

Retweeted @xuenay

@Malcolm_Ocean @natural_hazard What IFS calls "Self-leadership" might then be something like where the protectors still raise c…

Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @xuenay @mattgoldenberg @nosilverv @pjeby you didn’t mention me?? dude i literally pinned my reply to your tweet to my profile it’s what im about x.com/AskYatharth/st…

@AskYatharth @xuenay @mattgoldenberg @nosilverv @pjeby

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Aella_Girl One can actually try to emigrate to cultures with intact time-tested traditions like the Amish, Haredi Jews of various sorts, some indigenous cultures.

@ben_r_hoffman @Aella_Girl True! You still need to choose which one to emigrate to, but having made that choice you can maaaaaybe just experience the tradition as it is. Maybe.

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Replying to Buildren @buildren ·

@fredericl @christhebarker I just spent at least 15 seconds (it's a long time when you're an easily distracted web developer) right now trying to scan through my very busy list of browser tabs looking for my mail tab. It used to be a lot easier

@buildren @fredericl @christhebarker u need dis

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Of course, me being me, I can't tolerate this bullshit for very long, so now I have a little userscript that sets the icons back to what they were before. gist.github.com/malcolmocean/d…

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Replying to Kaj Sotala @xuenay ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @natural_hazard x.com/xuenay/status/… feels relevant here.

quoting @xuenay: Daniel Ingram describing what it's like to be enlightened. Paraphrasing his description: https://t.co/tuInxoMxH8

@xuenay @natural_hazard Oh wow, yes. I love this articulation! Sounds spot on to what I'm talking about, both the self/Self thing and the hemisphere stuff. Does the basal ganglia thing handle "action selection" when "action" consists of "think about something" rather than motor action?

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Replying to Bardia @thepericulum ·

@Mridgyy @RoamResearch @Malcolm_Ocean your calls were answered

@thepericulum @Mridgyy @RoamResearch Mmmm yes! So appreciating this. (I lost a bunch of stuff due to browser storage failure plus some other thing, and messaged Bardia right away being like "you need a message in that situation!")

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Replying to sunshine ☀️ revival @SeanMombo ·

@Cantide1 🙏 there it was. It blew me away too

@SeanMombo @Cantide1 made a difference for that one

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@TristanMiano @eigenrobot @yashkaf Yes, it is basically that distinction. This detailed brain model suggests the brain does make such a distinction. (@yashkaf's thing is based on this stuff: ) slatestarcodex.com/2018/03/08/ssc…

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Replying to Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

@captain_mrs Yeah, I’m getting better at keeping in touch with people who will call me on my bullshit even though we’re not working on the same project, so I think refining this capacity even more has merit

@TylerAlterman @captain_mrs Fwiw, I've been working on some social tech that is optimized for allowing people to point illuminate each other's blindspots without causing more weird layering & compartmentalization. Early stages, but so far encouraging results, and I haven't seen anything else do this *live*.

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Replying to Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

Brain: "the cultural substrate of close coordination is irreversibly broken ahhhhh all of your projects that depend on other people will fail ahhhhhh" Tell me something reasonable to help me self-soothe

@TylerAlterman the old cultural substrate of close coordination was never adequate to do the kinds of things you want to do (I don't know exactly what you want to do but I assume it's the important stuff) it is breaking a new cultural substrate is emerging it is bootstrapping

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Retweeted @beauhaan

@Mridgyy @RoamResearch Fleeting Notes = Seeds Literature Notes = Digging into the soil Permanent Notes = Roots of the trees…

boo

bmt @bigmastertroll ·

im scared of high iq extraverted people

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@TristanMiano @TylerAlterman Inasmuch as I'm embodying secrecy, the way it feels to me on the inside, is mostly like trying to preserve my attention. That in itself may be confused, but best guess atm. This thread though is me laying a new layer out explicitly though, for instance.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Wanting to write a thread on the larger meta-vision I have that inspired me to make this move. Initially wrote this in response to @andy_matuschak's response "Y'all, this attitude is rad", but wanted it to be a top-level thread because it's important and stands on its own. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to semi fungible individual @CyrusOfHearts ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Imagine if a German shepherd had an IQ of 140, we'd all be so fucked

@CyrusOfHearts

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I'm working on a bootloader for the emerging new cultural operating system.

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Do I have the most different roams? The number of distinct @RoamResearch graphs I've updated in the last week is… 8 😬😎🙃 Anybody have more? (I don't recommend this btw, if you can avoid it. It's slowing me down a bunch until they implement inter-db-linking)

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(Aware that for most people the only way you can have more is if a bunch have been shared with you or you have a bunch of local ones, because there's now a cap on making new DBs when you hit 3―I made my many graphs before that.)

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@TylerAlterman tell me about this thing (found on Tyler's Religion in 1 Page tyleralterman.com/Tyler-s-Religi…)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

a mutual: tweets something I know about me:

@visakanv

Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

Certain parts of Twitter feel like the last remaining places one can engage in conversational jazz on the internet.

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Retweeted @quotidiania

Never forget: This is REALLY HAPPENING.

Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania Hard mode is to create full space for your own authenticity while also fully welcoming the authenticity of whatever in the other person is rejecting their experience of your authenticity, & finding a way for those to dance. (This is where the juice is 👇)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm working on a bootloader for the emerging new cultural operating system.

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Jeanvaljean689 Yeah! Really fascinating stuff. See also Victor Wooten in The Music Lesson, who talks about learning music like you learn a language as an infant—you jam constantly with experts (people who already know the language). twitter.com/julianweisser/…

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Retweeted @AlexandraErin

The water is wide I cannot get over how freaking wide this water is Give me a boat that can carry two and I won't be ove…

I come from a long lineage of people who figure shit out for themselves and reinvent wheels.

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@TristanMiano The lineage part is a joke/paradox. My original tweet, distilled, would be "I'm a traditional antitraditionalist."

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

@thepericulum @Malcolm_Ocean @SarahAMcManus @Beehtrix Woah @Malcolm_Ocean I forgot you have, like...legs...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@utotranslucence @thepericulum @SarahAMcManus @Beehtrix And cool pants!

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @simiansunny Found it: I thank my teachers and request that you not hold them responsible for my mistakes. h/t @simiansunny

@AskYatharth @simiansunny Yes! See I do like this. Explicitly addressing the reader and saying "Look, if you've got beefs, don't take it up with my teachers. They've got enough to do, and don't need your crap."

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania The cultural OS, in its fully-realized form, IS the integrated whole of peoples' integrity, integrating more. So Authentic Hard Mode capacity is critical both for the thing itself and for getting there (the bootloader) although in some sense these are the same thing anyway.

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@quotidiania The cultural OS, in its fully-realized form, IS the integrated whole of peoples' integrity, integrating more. So Authentic Hard Mode capacity is critical both for the thing itself and for getting there (the bootloader) although in some sense these are the same thing anyway.

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In an effective fluid company, conversation is the backbone of action. I'm starting to feel increasingly like the backbone of my personal action is twitter. Connect, collect, get inspiration & clarity on what needs to happen, then do it!

Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

Certain parts of Twitter feel like the last remaining places one can engage in conversational jazz on the internet.

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(further explanation)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

A ♥️ isn't agreement, it's "am I glad this tweet exists?" Replying to a tweet is likely to produce another tweet from the same generator. ✅ jamming & co-creation🥰🙃🥳 ✅ misunderstanding that feels good to clarify 🧐🤓😎 ⛔️ fussing on fiddlybits 🤨🙄😒 ⛔️ angry arguing 😡😤😵

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This thread emerged from me wanting to tweet a DM my friend had sent when they tried complice.co. By the time I'd finished writing the thread, I had made substantial changes to the copy users see when they first sign on the app.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Realization: the way I relate to my goals on complice.co is… kinda like ritual magic. Basically by naming & enumerating the main careabouts I'm moving towards, I create affordances for invoking them as sources of motivation & clarity. 🧙‍♂️✨ Thread on naming goals 🧵

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Retweeted @WilliamAEden

The most underrated story of the election is that despite being very close, in an incredibly fraught and turbulent politi…

Replying to kristen @kpaxle ·

maybe I can simplify/broaden the playing field - any social (non-financial) application of blockchain... decentralized protocols for social goods n services kind of thing

@KHPavle @utotranslucence might have thoughts on this ^

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Just briefly tried searching google images for my own logo, thinking it might be quicker than pulling it up on my computer, but it wasn't. (My Malcolm Ocean logo 🌊👇, not the @CompliceGoals logo—that one actually does show up readily in google images.) malcolmocean.com

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Sarah: "what's that?" Me: "it's a drawing of my vision" Sarah: "if your vision looks like that you should probably see an ophthalmologist" (@SarahAMcManus)

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @SarahAMcManus thats not what an ophthalmologist looks like

@ben_r_hoffman @SarahAMcManus

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Visa himself seems close to being an answer to the question I asked below, about role models for what I want to do. But I'm aiming for something a bit more actively involved, hence current bio "I'm like a VC for the meaning & relationship economies."

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Here's an interesting question: who would role models in this be? Ideas? There are founders/leaders, but like, I want to be the Paul Erdős of design-strategy, showing up and saying "my brain is open, let's jam" (he's a mathematician who went around to others saying that)

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Someone send this to @eigenrobot and the other folks who are trying to avoid finding out who's president as long as possible.

The Onion @TheOnion ·

BREAKING: Wait—Sorry, False Alarm bit.ly/3k27Ypx

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Retweeted @chaophagy

what's the deal with people noticing that everything is vibrations and then deciding that means they should become vegan or…

Replying to Bardia @thepericulum ·

@ctabrizi_ Same doe

@thepericulum @ctabrizi_ Same sunset, same night, from 100km west of where Bardia was: (with @SarahAMcManus)

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Damn, monkeytype.com is the best lil typing test I've tried. Supports realistic backspacing, including ctrl+backspace for deleting a whole word! HT @thepericulum my first try—10wpm faster than I get on most tests, which are faker.

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If you don't know ctrl+backspace, learn that shit. Often way quicker to fix a typo by nuking the whole word & starting over than by trying to count the right # of backspace presses to get to your error.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@nbashaw @visakanv Okay, and while I was writing that earlier tweet, I noticed different times when I would mistype a word, and sometimes I would edit it by hitting backspace a few times manually, but other times I would just nuke the word and start over, and this was faster! Watch live 👁️👁️👇

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Replying to Bardia @thepericulum ·

Let’s see if any of my followers can beat this

@thepericulum I'm consistently around 100 or so.

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Retweeted @nickcammarata

a tweet is a magic boomerang. You throw it out there and it comes back a minute later and smacks you in the face but ev…

Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

a tweet is a magic boomerang. You throw it out there and it comes back a minute later and smacks you in the face but every thousand throws it picks up life-changing treasure on the way and smacks you with that too

@nickcammarata

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@nibrasibn based repetition

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

a tweet is a magic boomerang. You throw it out there and it comes back a minute later and smacks you in the face but every thousand throws it picks up life-changing treasure on the way and smacks you with that too

@nickcammarata twitter.com/jstanotherview…

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Replying to V-SC-IFS-??!?-AGVHD-205 @chaophagy ·

weirds me out that people respect me for my tweets on this account is there some way I can convince y'all to give me money, I wonder

@chaophagy I mean the zero-design answer is just a patreon with identical name/pic/bio, that has no particular rewards, for people who want to support what you're doing. Obviously could get way more complex but it's a place to start.

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Wow, remarkably different experience looking at this chatlog with my text on the left & @AskYatharth's on the right. Kind of like when you're playing chess and your opponent goes to the bathroom so you sneak a peek at the board from the opposite side. Cool feature for chat app?

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @RealMackenzieL Enrolling in “Oceanic College” with @Malcolm_Ocean has honestly been one of the most coherifying intellectual experiences. In an instant, in a metaphor, all made sense.

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Doing so would be extremely non-conservative, in fact. (In the useful sense of "conservative" where it actually means not just "one partisan side" but rather "the opposite of radical", ie "don't break what's working about the existing system".)

SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog ·

For those dreading, or hoping, that a conservative 6-3 Supreme Court with three appointees of Donald Trump will overturn the results of the election and deem him to be re-elected: there is absolutely no chance of that happening, whatsoever. None.

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This is one of those things actually where there has been plenty of fun cocktail party on twitter the last few years, and there will be plenty of black hole demonic stuff no matter what happens with US politics. You choose who you follow and interact with, in either case.

Alan Levinovitz @AlanLevinovitz ·

it is going to be SO amazing when Biden is president and social media is released from the black hole gravity of Trump’s demonic ego and my Twitter feed goes back to being a fun cocktail party where I discuss philosophy and science and kid around with great brilliant people

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Of course, since most of the people I follow and interact with are in this fun cocktail party, y'all don't need me to tell you this 😆🍸 But it's fascinating how despite the utter openness of twitter (unlike fb with groups etc) it still forms really meaningful clusters.

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Retweeted @visakanv

@vgr personally I think every tweeter has an obligation to step away from the village square, go out and hunt down something…

Replying to Alan Levinovitz @AlanLevinovitz ·

it is going to be SO amazing when Biden is president and social media is released from the black hole gravity of Trump’s demonic ego and my Twitter feed goes back to being a fun cocktail party where I discuss philosophy and science and kid around with great brilliant people

@AlanLevinovitz The cocktail party has been here the whole time! So if it doesn't go back, maybe switch up who you're following 🔃

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

This is one of those things actually where there has been plenty of fun cocktail party on twitter the last few years, and there will be plenty of black hole demonic stuff no matter what happens with US politics. You choose who you follow and interact with, in either case. twitter.com/AlanLevinovitz…

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Replying to Alan Levinovitz @AlanLevinovitz ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I disagree somewhat. My Twitter has had some of that, but the feed has slowly been overtaken by politics because that's overtaken people's minds. I've had to mute terms just to get the level of it down.

@AlanLevinovitz Hmm, yeah. I guess it kind of depends, I mean, if you were to go to an in-person cocktail party this week then probably a lot of ppl would be talking about the election… …but you can still find the conversations you want to be in, and/or steer them towards what interests you.

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Sent this post to @AskYatharth and he was like "I'm just starting to read this and I'm like, I'm already confused about what a deadline is…" Me: Yeah, I mean, one of the purposes of this post is to take your concept of "deadline" & put it in a solvent. malcolmocean.com/2020/10/deadli…

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Replying to Pico @VitalPixel ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Is the definition of radical really “break what’s working about the existing system”? I think of being radical as not being afraid of “breaking what’s *not* working about the existing system even if doing so is unorthodox”. Is there a better word to describe that?

@VitalPixel Ofc not. Nothing, defined in its own terms, sounds that dumb. Steelmanned radicalism says something more like: "Things are so borked we have to tear them down and rebuild, even if things are lost in the process". And it has a point! But so does conservativism. & everything.

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This is tough. Part of what makes the claim baseless is that he spent the whole election mostly ignoring half of the country's apparent concerns. Even if you think the concerns are unfounded due to propaganda, you can't dialogue from a place of "you're just confused.

The Onion @TheOnion ·

Media Condemns Biden For Baseless Claim That Nation Will Come Together Once Election Over bit.ly/32hRALy

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Replying to Travis Northcutt @tnorthcutt ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @zarkonnen_com Even better, make that a *feature*. Embrace the async nature: you won't know the effects of what you tried to do for ~4 minutes; you're always working with 2 minute old info, etc.

@tnorthcutt @zarkonnen_com Exactly, yeah.

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Replying to mauv @ThatsMauvelous ·

@xuenay @Malcolm_Ocean @zarkonnen_com This means that after each move you have to twiddle your thumbs for two minutes (plus however long the other player takes) Can this be improved upon? Are there designs where each player can continuously act upon the state created by the other player two minutes ago?

@CrayonsAndSuch @xuenay @zarkonnen_com Yeah, this ^ I mean a game that you play in real-time, but it's got huge info delays built in.

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Ooh yep, this is a cool idea. Attacking requires your troops to follow some fairly pre-set strategy, but you can defend in real-time, almost as if a base commander in a real pre-telephony battle who can't communicate instantly with troops on the field twitter.com/zarkonnen_com/…

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Whoa! Here's another neat version. Say you've got 4 players on 2 teams, and one person from each team is on Mars, the other on Earth. Kind of like one defender, one invader, on each team, and latency in communication between you and your ally as well as other delays.

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Replying to Sergei Zhuchkov @svzhuchkov ·

@sarah_cone @gregisenberg What's wrong with current version?

@svzhuchkov @sarah_cone @gregisenberg I have a rant on this:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🧵🧵Meta-thread For over a year I've been thinking & modelling about "what would twitter be like if it were actually optimized for conversation?" Mostly I've been tagging my thoughts #TwitterReplacement but haven't been collecting them anywhere. (A lot is still in workflowy too)

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Replying to Pico @VitalPixel ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Right. “Everything has a point” is what I take from this brief exchange. Which I guess is an extremely conservative perspective... and very ‘off-brand’ for me. So thanks 😉!

@VitalPixel Yay for twitter learning! I think that's also a very liberal perspective, because liberalism supports pluralism, & a progressive perspective, b/c progressivism encourages trying things to see what works. On which note, you might appreciate this article: everythingstudies.com/2018/12/06/i-l…

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Retweeted @egocv

I like to think of my tweets as adorable bees that I send out into the world. Occasionally they return with nectar (replies). S…

Retweeted @SarahAMcManus

*peers at Buddhist Tantra* Is... is this how gendered practices work in Tantra? It's fun because everyone knows it's…

Replying to nibras ꩜ @heynibras ·

Push ups have always felt impossible so this is pretty sweeeeeet 🎉 Reckon I can get it to 10 before the end of 2020?

@nibrasibn

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I love you. You've got this. It's worth it.

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Retweeted @TylerAlterman

"Don't cry," is one of the worst things you can say to someone with sadness. But often, so is "It's OK to cry," as the p…

Retweeted @algekalipso

Semantic nihilism is either nonsense or it doesn't mean anything.

Replying to Captain Pleasure, Andrés Gómez Emilsson @algekalipso ·

Semantic nihilism is either nonsense or it doesn't mean anything.

@algekalipso

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Thread · The copywriting problem unique to meta offerings like courses and goal systems

Mmm, this is reminding me that there's a specific copywriting problem that's unique to meta offerings like this: > I'm building a small course to help you figure out what you truly want in life and how to get it. I've encountered the same thing with @CompliceGoals.

anita is in nyc @neats29 ·

Iterating on the signup page's copy and omg copywriting is HARD. How do you write in a way that says "hey, here's something you may find helpful" rather than sounding salesy 🤢?

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If you want to sell someone deodorant, the sales pitch is "our deodorant is better than the other one you're using". Maybe you say it's healthier or greener, maybe you say it'll get you laid. Whatever. There's some sort of selling point, and a comparison.

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If you want to sell something that solves a problem people currently have no solution for, then you just need to identify their pain point in a way that makes them feel seen & heard, and then they'll assume you have the solution. (which may be naive 😆👇)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Accepting that something is a problem does not require accepting any proposed solutions. 99% of described problems are real and important, at least in some sense. 99% of proposed solutions are at best irrelevant and at worst actively would exacerbate things.

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But if you want to sell "I have a device that solves your problems (or empowers you to)", which is what any system for productivity, personal development, life-clarification, goal-setting, etc, does… …well, what's the catch? *Obviously* everyone would want this, IF it works.

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So you need to empower people to figure out (before purchasing) whether this is the sort of thing that might work for them. A free trial can be one way, and it's worked well for Complice because it gives people a firsthand taste of a different approach:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Aha! Here's proof that I'm not just saying this about my app Complice because *I* think it's innovative. Here's a user talking about what they learned from just using the complice.co free trial, and how that was valuable.

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But a free trial doesn't work as well for a course, and in any case you need to help people self-identify whether they want to sign up or not. Not gonna pretend I have a proper taxonomy here, but approaches include: - say who's not a fit - present an archetype - vibe with people

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complice.co has this quote on it, which is designed to emotionally evoke a meaning-oriented vibe in relation to productivity. It reminds you (gently) of the finiteness of life, and nudges you to consider that your existing approach might be out of touch with that.

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To @Neats29 — since your course comes out of your own experience, what you probably want to do is tell the story of how you were stuck in unclarity about what you wanted, and see who resonates with that and who doesn't.

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Was gonna say that the intended effect of that is "WHAT? I thought I was the only one!" but that's actually only true if you thought that about yourself too. Point is, inducing some quality of surprise & self-recognition with this story is desirable.

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My suggestion would be to message a dozen friends directly and have a conversation with them where you find out if they would be a good fit for your course, not to sell them on it but to refine how you articulate the story to produce that recognition.

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For more thoughts in this general area (including specifically re messaging friends) I have a blog post from a few years ago, that I would probably frame differently now but I expect to still be useful to people. malcolmocean.com/2016/09/awkwar…

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The other half to the "what's the catch?" above is the question of whether your solution *does* actually solve their problem. Herein lies two reasons to work directly with at least a couple people: 1. to ensure that the thing *does actually work* 2. to get some testimonials

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Replying to anita is in nyc @neats29 ·

Iterating on the signup page's copy and omg copywriting is HARD. How do you write in a way that says "hey, here's something you may find helpful" rather than sounding salesy 🤢?

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@Neats29 You have inspired a thread!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Mmm, this is reminding me that there's a specific copywriting problem that's unique to meta offerings like this: > I'm building a small course to help you figure out what you truly want in life and how to get it. I've encountered the same thing with @CompliceGoals. twitter.com/neats29/status…

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Retweeted @wildflowerearth

conspiracy theorists are overrated; the real work is done by the conspiracy experimentalists

Retweeted @sadalsvvd

and if people are awkward about it, or don't want to engage, the solve is to call out exactly what's happening in the subtex…

Yeah some famous guy said "write drunk, edit sober" but I prefer "write sober, edit drunk". (or sometimes "write on caffeine, edit drunk"… I haven't tried all the permutations with all different drugs or states of mind though so there may be an even better combo out there)

David Perell @david_perell ·

Sometimes, I edit my writing drunk because my drunk self has no patience for boredom which tells me exactly what I need to delete

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Retweeted @michelleinbklyn

It's coming to America first The cradle of the best and of the worst It's here they got the range And the machinery fo…

Retweeted @daemonhugger

I’ve never read The 5 Love Languages, but from what I know about it, it seems like a testament to a simple truth: There…

Replying to Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

@liminal_warmth So it resembles a thing that is green hence it must be a yellowy green

@m_ashcroft @liminal_warmth youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5ZOe…

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@natural_hazard Have you tried two songs at once?

@mattgoldenberg @natural_hazard this is the way to do it youtube.com/watch?v=JMJ6Kf…

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Replying to Rob Haisfield @RobertHaisfield ·

What is @RoamResearch? How do you explain it to someone who's never seen Roam before? I still haven't figured that out.

@RobertHaisfield @RoamResearch

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

New [[metaphor]]: @RoamResearch is like a wikipedia wormhole, but for producing rather than consuming. Instead of getting lost reading, get lost writing! ✍️

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Replying to Andy Matuschak @andy_matuschak ·

My favorite notion of the week: @tobyshorin complaining this morning about grifters “doing violence to concepts.” How evocative! He meant it negatively, but ofc sometimes concepts must be violently recast! (Thanks to @mariodgabriele for hosting—I think there’ll be a recording?)

@andy_matuschak @tobyshorin @mariodgabriele > one of the purposes of this post is to take your concept of "deadline" & put it in a solvent.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Sent this post to @AskYatharth and he was like "I'm just starting to read this and I'm like, I'm already confused about what a deadline is…" Me: Yeah, I mean, one of the purposes of this post is to take your concept of "deadline" & put it in a solvent. malcolmocean.com/2020/10/deadli…

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This clip is remarkable. Or well... it feels remarkable. I seem to be having trouble figuring out what to remark about it. The way that she laughs, it's like, she's in touch with a level of surrealness of the whole thing. Felt weird to me the first time, but kinda grounding too.

Kamala Harris @KamalaHarris ·

We did it, @JoeBiden.

[video]

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My aim is full fractal buy-in, without compromise.

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Interesting, is the same sentiment as fractal congruency?

@mattgoldenberg maybe! idk what that is. google gave me some stuff about congruent triangles in hyperbolic space, plus this link. I think you mean a third thing 😛 fractal-consulting.com/consultancy/st…

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Replying to @sadalsvvd

@sadalsvvd @SarahAMcManus this thread relates to some recent thinking you've been doing re Face (and also relates a bit to the stuff we've been talking about around honoring distrust etc)

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Aligning on broader and broaders scales. First as an individual, then as a relationship, then as an organization, than as a group of organizations, etc...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

@mattgoldenberg Yeah, although all of these scales can also feed each other to some extent, so don't need to get 100% aligned internally before being able to do stuff with rship & org, & vv. Bootstrapping integration.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm working on a bootloader for the emerging new cultural operating system.

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May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated as it wants to be integrated.

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shadow-namaste: "the triggeredness in me says fuck you to the triggeredness in you" 🖕🙏🖕 — @SarahAMcManus

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Retweeted @AbhayPrasanna

@Malcolm_Ocean 🙏🏾 Something that has been in the frame here is: May each aspect's craving to be appeased be seen truly…

Replying to @abhayance

@AbhayPrasanna Beautiful, yes. Also: May each aspect's apparent resistance to dialogue be seen as it standing for the integrity of what dialogue looks like to it, and not losing that integrity to someone else's idea.

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"You know, we honestly thought we would get more votes than we did. That tells us there's something we don't understand about the needs of all Americans. We're gonna listen closer." — not actually what anybody elected this week said but that would be a *real* step towards unity.

NBC News @NBCNews ·

LIVE: NBC News Special Report: VP-elect Harris addresses the nation from Wilmington, Delaware, in first public speech since winning the election; President-elect Biden to follow. x.com/i/broadcasts/1…

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Thread · Why political unity talk fails without actually listening to dissenters · 7 of 12 tweets

Continuing to be 🤨 at politicians talking about unity but not actually addressing the people who voted against them. KH: > You delivered a clear message. You chose hope, and unity, decency, science, and yes—truth. "Clear message"—MAYBE if a landslide.

NBC News @NBCNews ·

LIVE: NBC News Special Report: VP-elect Harris addresses the nation from Wilmington, Delaware, in first public speech since winning the election; President-elect Biden to follow. x.com/i/broadcasts/1…

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What would it be like for someone to stand up in a "1st speech as [vice] president-elect" & say "You know, we honestly thought we would get more votes than we did. That tells us there's something we don't understand about the needs of all Americans. We're gonna listen closer."

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THEN talk of unity would be more than an ideal. (to be clear, I'm aware that most of the audience at this event *are* probably Biden+Harris voters. Doesn't matter. They're addressing the whole country, and the world (hi from 🇨🇦!) via this speech.)

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KH: > "You chose Joe Biden as the next POTUS" This represents the American will as being already unified. It's exactly the sort of language that encourages compartmentalization in individuals, and I would expect it to encourage division in a nation as well.

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It says "the will that spoke most vehemently won, and all dissenters can stuff it." A series of primary votes then a national election is an absurdly crude approximation of collective will. It's what we've got, but we don't have to pretend that it's actually good.

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Timely quote from Churchill. Note that these don't strictly contradict. KH's quote doesn't portray US democracy as perfect. But it does portray it in a way that suggests people should feel satisfied with it, even if they don't.

Richard Engel @RichardEngel ·

“No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…” Churchill, November 1947

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I honestly don't expect most people to get this, because my understanding of it is only a few months old, and came out of a bunch of deep exploration into the nature of the psyche (Unlocking the Emotional Brain) and dialogue (On Dialogue by Bohm) and trust. Still articulating.

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Replying to Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 @AndrewYang ·

The fact that this was even somewhat close should cause great concern.

@AndrewYang Huge respect 🙏

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"You know, we honestly thought we would get more votes than we did. That tells us there's something we don't understand about the needs of all Americans. We're gonna listen closer." — not actually what anybody elected this week said but that would be a *real* step towards unity. twitter.com/NBCNews/status…

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Relatedly:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Design & blame thread 🧵 Was wondering why I'd recently accidentally discarded a few tweets and then I realized that twitter recently changed the X / esc popup so that now it looks like this ↙️ Whereas it used to look like ↘️ (threads aren't saveable) Now very obvious why 🤯

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Thread · Why political unity talk fails without actually listening to dissenters · 5 of 12 tweets

This tweet calls it: > I’m not really interested in “unity” or “healing” with the people who called me god awful things for four years simply for not agreeing with them politically. So don’t be surprised I don’t want to hold hands and sing kumbaya. twitter.com/jason_games198…

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Dialogue requires acknowledging this: you don't know what you need to know in order to integrate with others—truly integrate, which means respecting their INTEGRITY. You have to listen.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated as it wants to be integrated.

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Biden, ~21mins in the video: > Refusal of Ds & Rs to cooperate with each other is not some mysterious force beyond our control. It's a decision… if we can decide not to cooperate, we can decide to cooperate." I see it not as a decision but skills: listening & finding win-wins.

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If you don't have those skills, then "deciding to cooperate" means "deciding to compromise" means "deciding to half give up". With those skills, you don't have to *decide* to cooperate. You just *do* because it *works better*. Win-wins are stable, rather than contested.

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While writing this thread, I found myself imagining writing an alternate pair of speeches for Harris & Biden to deliver on this occasion. I think that would be a profound & challenging exercise for any aspiring memetic mediator.

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Replying to Pooja V @pooja_LuvIndia ·

You have to realize that none of us, including you and me, is ever done or perfect. We'll all be works in progress till the end of time.

@pooja_LuvIndia ♫ you are what you'll grow into ♪ you're not what you were youtube.com/watch?v=nY7GnA…

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Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Yang sort of said that, though of course he wasn’t elected. x.com/andrewyang/sta…

@diviacaroline Oh fyeah. Also I have a whole thread elaborating on this perspective:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Continuing to be 🤨 at politicians talking about unity but not actually addressing the people who voted against them. KH: > You delivered a clear message. You chose hope, and unity, decency, science, and yes—truth. "Clear message"—MAYBE if a landslide. twitter.com/NBCNews/status…

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Replying to @danielharan

@danielharan He got 50.6% of the popular vote, compared to Trump's 47.7%. That's a majority, but barely. It's still not anything resembling a unified nation.

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Replying to @danielharan

@danielharan Yes, an important caveat. And, I'm not saying give them airtime on TV. I'm saying understand their actual experience and concerns.

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Replying to @danielharan

@danielharan Not sure what you're saying here; would be interested in knowing more details!

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Replying to @danielharan

@danielharan This is a good point, AND it doesn't change the reality that Trump got more votes (~70M) this election than any other past candidate. Those people are the people I'm positing aren't being adequately addressed or listened to by the Democratic party.

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As a Canadian literally swimming in literal maple leaves right now (okay, 2mins ago) I am struck by the significance of our national symbol being one that we HAVE in such absurd abundance. 🍁🇨🇦

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Fuck I do so much great journalling & so little re-reading of it. I need @readwiseio for my own bits. Roam sorta solves... stoked for what else is around the corner.

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If you meet the vibe on the road, don't kill it.

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Retweeted @tomhyde_

Actual example: This is an oil painting—an incredible display of skill on behalf of the painter. But the beauty owes to natu…

Retweeted @diviacaroline

Trying to quell panic by denying reality is a very short-term game at best. And even then it leaves people out. If you…

Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Kinda like this, right?

quoting @diviacaroline: Trying to quell panic by denying reality is a very short-term game at best. And even then it leaves people out. If you can embody all the true perspectives and still see and share the path forward, people will trust you. @MichaelEllsberg calls this “holding paradox”. https://

@diviacaroline Yes, very much so! Nice.

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Replying to Will @anactofwill ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @readwiseio Is any of it hand writing? Based on your comment it sound like its typing and digitally stored, however I am curious to your preference.

@anactofwill @readwiseio yes, almost entirely digital, though I do have some handwritten notes from years past

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Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

Here’s my “hot take” on panic: Fear *is* the mind killer. But some people were never going to be the ones solving the issue anyway. My kids should panic until I embody the sort of leadership that calms them down. Panic is being the barometer.

@diviacaroline Mmm, well put. Very curious if you resonate with this related take of mine:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Inasmuch as each emotion has a *purpose*, and panic (unlike straight up fear→run) seems to mostly make us helplessly freak out, it seems to me that panic's purpose is probably purely infantile: get comforted by parents, including found if lost. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Retweeted @uncatherio

broke: "non-doing" relationships, while paying ~no attention to one's inner compass woke: being very "deliberate" about re…

> You have to like what you do enough that the concept of "spare time" seems mistaken. I resonate with this so much. I do a lot of different enjoyable things, and they all function as breaks from each other as well as constraints on each other. paulgraham.com/love.html

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Replying to Justin Wallander @jwallander ·

@Conaw

@jrwall7 @Conaw

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

To get a realistic estimate of how long it will take... 1. make an optimistic estimate 2. make a pessimistic estimate 3. add them together #ProgrammingTips

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Retweeted @TheAndrewNadeau

“Jazz is about the notes you DON’T play.” He tells me. And now I lie awake at night, tormented. Bombarded by the cease…

Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I mostly do! And I would think panic is also probably adaptive for nontraumatized adults in certain situations?

@diviacaroline Mmm, for example?

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

My dream is one day @CompliceGoals will help me not just with the “what” of today but the “how.” That’s already where @Ma…

Replying to @tobiasrogers

@tobiasrogers @liminal_warmth @visakanv You know it's funny, I was one of the first stylers for roam (and the inspiration for them adding selectors so tags could be independently styled) but I haven't done much with it in a year, I just have slightly different colors for each db, & dark theme.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Do I have the most different roams? The number of distinct @RoamResearch graphs I've updated in the last week is… 8 😬😎🙃 Anybody have more? (I don't recommend this btw, if you can avoid it. It's slowing me down a bunch until they implement inter-db-linking)

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @BlackForestBoi Belgium goes months and years without a government. In the meantime, a “caretaker government” keeps the train running, passes budgets based on last year, and holds the fort down, unauthorised to make any significant repairs or changes. washingtonpost.com/world/europe/w…

@AskYatharth @BlackForestBoi ...the real conservative government.

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Replying to Pico @VitalPixel ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Just skimmed through and I immediately thought of this “subjectivity of all language”, especially of certain ‘concepts’, that @tobyshorin reminded me of. Personally, my favorite notion was that of “semiotic land grabs”. It seems even more relevant here. x.com/andy_matuschak…

quoting @andy_matuschak: My favorite notion of the week: @tobyshorin complaining this morning about grifters “doing violence to concepts.” How evocative! He meant it negatively, but ofc sometimes concepts must be violently recast! (Thanks to @mariodgabriele for hosting—I think there’ll be a recording?)

@VitalPixel @tobyshorin Oh totally, I'm not here to argue that conservatism "should" mean a particular thing, just that there is a thing that it could mean that is deeper than "whatever the US Republican party platform is this year"

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Retweeted @CompliceGoals

"just enough" strategizing to feel comfortable "just doing" sounds like a great summary of how complice.co w…

Retweeted @MilanGriffes

Where are the bodhisattva VCs?

Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa After I facilitated BioEmotive for someone (basically a stranger) she kept insisting I was such a natural empathic listener, and I was like "you have no idea how many times I've been called an asshole, and how hard I've trained to be able to do this" but she wouldn't have it.

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Retweeted @visakanv

the interesting part of this to me is when he says “hard to be positive when that’s reality”, when the reality right in front…

Replying to @liminal_warmth

@liminal_warmth I've got various threads here. Some much more readily solveable than others. Happy to ideate further towards a given domain if you want!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

🧵🧵Meta-thread Things I Want To Exist (that afaik currently don't) Click through to the specific threads in order to discuss desiderata or existing solutions. Use this thread for sharing your own #ThingsIWantToExist! (But keep it meta; make your own thread & embed it here)

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

@WeftOfSoul @jgreenhall i will. haven't figured out your shape yet, you seem pretty well rounded

@nosilverv @WeftOfSoul Hmmmm now I am wondering about @nosilverv's shape… …specifically something like what vital role(s) might he play in this meta-team idea here…

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Wanting to write a thread on the larger meta-vision I have that inspired me to make this move. Initially wrote this in response to @andy_matuschak's response "Y'all, this attitude is rad", but wanted it to be a top-level thread because it's important and stands on its own. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

Dancing to learn vibes >>> dancing to learn moves Vibes generate moves, moves exemplify vibes. Each move takes the vibe forward. Sorta like language and words.

@nosilverv @AskYatharth quoting me:

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@WeftOfSoul @Malcolm_Ocean Quote: being able to have my vibe, being able to vibe with other vibes, but no one can kill the meta-vibe it might change, say, if someone comes in the room crying but the meta-vibe does not die

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Retweeted @visakanv

in order to get to the top of a (metaphorical) mountain, 1. a part of you must want to 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d. mountaineering traini…

Replying to 🕊🇵🇸 🇮🇪 Revolutionary Penguin 🇨🇴 🇧🇴 🇱🇧 @RorshachTickler ·

@lexfridman Haha. Good joke ... however ... actual existing Capitalism is the WORST

@RorshachTickler @lexfridman

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@TheMusingMind @callumflack I basically don't believe it's possible to be anti-something. You need to be for something. It can be very helpful in that process to point at what you're not, but anyone who boos at capitalism without gesturing at what they're saying is better does not understand capitalism.

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Replying to Jess (in Porto) @frideswyth ·

@callumflack @Malcolm_Ocean @TheMusingMind @everytstudies @KaseyKlimes This vibes with something I’ve been thinking is that: modernity pushes away trance states and rituals etc. People keep longing for the “village” policeman or a “simpler time” - they long for the stage 3 / choiceless mode. Our culture needs to reincorporate these forces somehow

@ssica3003 @callumflack @TheMusingMind @everytstudies @KaseyKlimes Yeah, I wrote here about how various images of "trad" (1950s, or "whatever my parents did") are attempts to recover choicelessness, which requires people deny the arbitrariness of those images.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Aella_Girl Lots of inspirations, but you nonetheless have to choose. Can't go back to choiceless society, which is the main thing that all of these images of trad have in common! There is no default culture, in the same way there is no person who doesn't have an accent when they speak.

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Replying to Baeocystin @Baeocystin ·

@Aella_Girl @tprete @rlj_law I lived overseas as a child, and was homeschooled for all of it. Was stateside in time for public high school, and it was shockingly awful. The educational culture shock was worse than what was felt from the actual move. Thankfully, my love of learning survived, but ugh.

@Baeocystin @Aella_Girl @tprete @rlj_law perennial twete

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

hey remember how we went to school where we spent 8 hours a day for over a decade having what our bodies could do completely under the control of authority figures boy i wonder if that had any lasting effects

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If I'm reading this right, this site/org is performance art in the key of the brainstorming prompt: "Consider the problem you have. How would you go about making it worse? Now notice if you're doing any of those things already." via @Aella_Girl appliedeschatology.com

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

Best company of 2020 (header sounds boring but you gotta actually go look at it) appliedeschatology.com

@Aella_Girl

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

If I'm reading this right, this site/org is performance art in the key of the brainstorming prompt: "Consider the problem you have. How would you go about making it worse? Now notice if you're doing any of those things already." via @Aella_Girl appliedeschatology.com

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Hold Self-distrust (a little meditative exercise) Incline towards the question "in what ways don't I trust myself?" Attend to what arises, and encourage yourself to trust yourself exactly as much as it makes sense to trust yourself.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

in order to get to the top of a (metaphorical) mountain, 1. a part of you must want to 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d. mountaineering training, bla bla, conditioning, fuel, the stuff people focus on 2. the part of you that *doesn't* want to, mustn't sabotage the part of you that wants to

@visakanv I often point out to people that taking actions is something you just *do* if you're not too conflicted about them. You take another bite of your breakfast. You feel compelled to read another chapter of the novel. No "motivation" required. Sometimes conflict just lack of clarity.

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Replying to brainlet @magicianbrain ·

i would like everyone who believes in the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon to take notice of what just happened here

@magicianbrain omfg this is too much

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Replying to Aella @Aella_Girl ·

Best company of 2020 (header sounds boring but you gotta actually go look at it) appliedeschatology.com

@Aella_Girl @magicianbrain tweeted this earlier this week, apparently without any awareness of this site 😂😂😂 > you guys, when i make up schizoid noun phrases like this it's not because i want them to manifest themselves into existence Probably the Baadest-Meinhof.

brainlet @magicianbrain ·

would like to go one day without applied eschatology type takes but that's too much to ask i suppose

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Replying to Kaj Sotala @xuenay ·

@nickcammarata @sam_havens I'm probably a bad person to make a podcast since I hate the format so very rarely listen to any :D

@xuenay @nickcammarata @sam_havens What about out-loud interviews that then get edited into text transcripts?

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Replying to Elizabeth Van Nostrand @acesounderglass ·

@xuenay The isolation is indeed very hard, and one reason I'm looking at shifting gears myself.

@acesounderglass @xuenay Wondering if for either of you, this prompt might help generate a sense of what kind of teamwork you might want to be doing… …and then we could see about finding the perfect teammate(s)!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

A tiny meditation invitation, if you'll pause here for a moment. Hi. Think of a dream you have. ☁️ A vision or project, that you care about but it's not happening. 😕 Got it? Okay. What parts of it do you not want to do? 😣 Now imagine someone else would LOVE to do that. 😍 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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idk yet what the form of it is going to look like, but I've got some sketches of ideas for creating a kind of meta-team that is working on various object-level projects while pushing the frontiers of noncoercive collaboration could imagine you being involved with that!

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Replying to Kaj Sotala @xuenay ·

My job's been something like "researcher" for five years now. I made a deal with myself to do something else once this year is over and my current grant period runs out. I haven't figured out what. Ideas?

@xuenay Haha somehow this tweet 👇 got tweeted as a top-level tweet instead of reply to Kaj. Before I could delete it it got a like so I'm gonna leave it there as funny serendipity. But anyway, I do mean the below much more specifically in relation to you, Kaj.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

idk yet what the form of it is going to look like, but I've got some sketches of ideas for creating a kind of meta-team that is working on various object-level projects while pushing the frontiers of noncoercive collaboration could imagine you being involved with that!

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either twitter glitched or I used a wrong hotkey haha that tweet👆 was supposed to be a reply to this one 👇 oh well, it's kind of funny on its own, with "you" now meaning "whoever is reading the tweet"!

Kaj Sotala @xuenay ·

My job's been something like "researcher" for five years now. I made a deal with myself to do something else once this year is over and my current grant period runs out. I haven't figured out what. Ideas?

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Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman

@uncatherio Maybe you DON'T have "hobbies." You just ... do things that seem like good things to do, with substantial va…

Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@uncatherio ^_^ I appreciate me too, glad we can enjoy some of the same things ;)

@ben_r_hoffman @uncatherio I'm gettin' in on the @ben_r_hoffman appreciation club! (...is this a hobby? 🤔🙃)

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resonates with a shift I experienced right around the same time, where I stopped pushing myself to integrate stuff in any kind of rushed way, and shifted to integrating stuff in a way that gets deep buy in

uncatherio @uncatherio ·

25/ Two: I had a written intention to "follow the signs that keep leading to balance and wholeness" This really helped! Any hint of "oh, but maybe I'm 'supposed to' be pushing deeper" is just eradicated IME, pushing *like that* doesn't lead to balance & wholeness. End of story

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Replying to Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

In the last week I've had conversations with 7 people who want to start their own research institute. Pretty sure they should all get together and start the "Institute Institute".

@michael_nielsen Hmmm kind of reminds me of this idea I'm feeling into here, although my idea involves way more fluidity rather than a formal institution. But still ultimately I'm imagining it being a channel for people to get funded to do meaningful work.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Wanting to write a thread on the larger meta-vision I have that inspired me to make this move. Initially wrote this in response to @andy_matuschak's response "Y'all, this attitude is rad", but wanted it to be a top-level thread because it's important and stands on its own. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to milan @MilanGriffes ·

@nickcammarata @xuenay ... which I suppose could start functioning *as* the small pool of capital, after a while.

@MilanGriffes @nickcammarata @xuenay I'm kiiiiinda working on this. This is what I've published so far: malcolmocean.com/2020/11/meta-t…

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Retweeted @nickcammarata

As our tools for unrepressing emotional-memory and editing them become more safe and effective we'll start to see it as…

Equanimity as not freedom from preferences and aversions but rather freedom to fully experience and be moved by your preferences and aversions, including experiencing the natural movement of integration when these conflict, rather than stuckness. twitter.com/abhayance/stat…

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Replying to @abhayance

@AbhayPrasanna Fyeah. Inspired this in me:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Equanimity as not freedom from preferences and aversions but rather freedom to fully experience and be moved by your preferences and aversions, including experiencing the natural movement of integration when these conflict, rather than stuckness. twitter.com/abhayance/stat…

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Replying to Colleen McKenzie @collegraphy ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Most entrenched issue I've seen w/intentional noncoercive collab is getting agreement on priorities & time allocation for identifying+solving deep disagreements. If metateam = more individual project ownership = more individual decisions on time/priorities, that might help a lot!

@collegraphy Yeah, what I've got in mind is some combo of a lot of ownership and self-directedness etc, plus some dialoguing frameworks that help make "identifying+solving deep disagreements" itself a very energy-releasing & attractive process. One piece of vision: malcolmocean.com/2020/11/meta-t…

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Replying to james, the giant peach @JimmyRis ·

@Malcolm_Ocean There’s an evolution of this in the frame of external sources of value that provide the energy of motivation for autonomous but complementary teams

@JimmyRis Cool, adding it to a list of case studies.

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Replying to @vitabenes

@vitabenes Because it's working great and your idea of what it's supposed to do is what's in error.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

> "You won’t fully grasp [Coherence Therapy] until you grasp the nimble, active genius of the psyche not only in constructing personal reality, but also in purposefully manifesting any one of its myriad possible states to carry out any of its myriad possible purposes..."

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So @SarahAMcManus wandered into my room, where this page was up in the background, and she was like "is slack... poly?"

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“don’t even try to make yourself a certain, very specific way. And, even more so, don’t ever try to move forward without understanding why you’re not already that way.” Beware, beware, “I should just be able to do X…” —@meditationstuff meditation protocol rothos.github.io/protocol_1/

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^on the plus side (arguably) such coherence-unaware self-modification attempts will usually fail, as the unconscious generator won't let itself be overwritten 👇 ...OTOH, it won't necessarily fail *gracefully* 😬 Lots of compartmentalization possible.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Our brains aren't dumb enough to let us simply overwrite our old understanding of things with a new understanding. We'd lose hard-earned lessons. Learning happens by holding the old & new knowings together, til they form a clear, more complex picture 📔👇 lesswrong.com/s/ZbmRyDN8TCpB…

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Before going meta, chop wood, carry water. After going meta, chop wood, carry water.

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Replying to milan @MilanGriffes ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what if... what if Twitter is actually really good? x.com/MilanGriffes/s…

quoting @MilanGriffes: Coming around to feeling that Twitter's user experience is in fact really good. ... do they actually *care* about us users?!? https://t.co/LDcDAE76N5

@MilanGriffes It's way better than it could be. But still loads of room for improvement & it's hard to properly care about UX when your customers are advertisers not users. Direct conflict of interest. Before Twitter was trying to monetize, they had one of the most epic APIs. So many clients.

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What possessions of yours* have you owned the longest? *(that you've interacted with in the last month, not just stuff buried in storage) From memory: - a staff found when I was like 12 - ipod shuffle 2gen (14) - guitar (15) - a lil hymnbook (16) - blue man group spin art (18)

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Replying to Harvey Krishna @harveykrishna_ ·

@Malcolm_Ocean something I bought for myself, probably this ashtray I got in Murano in 2001 (age 14) didn’t know it was an ashtray btw, just thought it was a cool looking piece of glass (and still use it purely for decoration, on my night table)

[video]

@harveykrishna_ Whoa, gorgeous!

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Replying to Juvoni Beckford @juvoni ·

Help me choose my next profile pic. A — top left B — top right C — bottom left D — bottom right Rank your choices i.e A,B,C,D Optionally say why you picked your #1.

[3 more photos]

@juvoni B,D,A,C B looks super excited and playful! feels like we could get up to meaningful mischief

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Replying to grin @grin_io ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Falkvinge a few ideas that stood out "if you see something you don't like, respond by *doing* something you do like" if someone says "I want to do A" and you respond "how about B instead?", neither A nor B will get done. even if B is just a slight change to A, the sense ownership is gone

@lyoshenka @Falkvinge Mmm nice! Yeah, I picked this book up awhile back but haven't gone deep into it. And who are you? Oh, you're building @LBRYcom. I checked it out briefly awhile back but kinda bounced off it for some reason.

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Replying to @quotidiania

@quotidiania @Conaw Make an account on roamresearch.com and start pasting some stuff in, and check out some guides by eg @nateliason

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Replying to Juvoni Beckford @juvoni ·

It looks like A or B are in the lead. However, the profile circle dimensions don't make them pop out as much. I might just pick another photo.

@juvoni Could make B your cover photo!

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Replying to @selentelechia

@selentelechia Yeah this blog post of mine is mostly like "here's this thing that is tough, maybe I can put some better words to it being tough than you've seen before" but there's really no solution or answer or anything. malcolmocean.com/2019/10/the-ch…

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Replying to Marie @mesolude ·

Wanting to make a tweet thread but unable to search for and find my previous tweets, how do you do this

@mesolude I have some custom search engines which get me to past tweets from myself with just a few keypresses. I also have twf for searching just tweets from people I follow. also helpful, date filters:  since:yyyy-mm-dd  until:yyyy-mm-dd

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Conaw @gmws82 @visakanv @ultimape @GRITCULT @KevinSimler @vgr @context_ing I do this with a custom Chrome (Brave actually) search engine. - tw searches twitter - twm searches twitter with from:malcolm_ocean pre-typed - twv searches twitter with from:visakanv (just added that last one but have been meaning to for awhile)

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named after my mother's father's (father's)ⁿ father who was King of Scotland many centuries ago (haven't quite figured out if Malcolm III or IV) as for why my parents named me that... iirc they considered a few ancestors, and probably just felt into it & went with it.

Venkatesh Rao ☀️ @vgr ·

Do you know why you were named whatever you are named? Like after a grandparent?

quoting @vgr: Names are weird. Annoying how every name is a world hash. Every time a new parent announces a baby name you get a glimpse of a world they’re seeing.

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Replying to Venkatesh Rao ☀️ @vgr ·

Do you know why you were named whatever you are named? Like after a grandparent?

quoting @vgr: Names are weird. Annoying how every name is a world hash. Every time a new parent announces a baby name you get a glimpse of a world they’re seeing.

@vgr

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

named after my mother's father's (father's)ⁿ father who was King of Scotland many centuries ago (haven't quite figured out if Malcolm III or IV) as for why my parents named me that... iirc they considered a few ancestors, and probably just felt into it & went with it. twitter.com/vgr/status/132…

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> Eating the shadow is not about becoming "nice." Quite the opposite. It is about becoming a clued-up monster—one that knows accurately what it likes and loathes, and why.

GeniesLoki @GeniesLoki ·

I was reading @Meaningness's work on hunting the shadow earlier and this bit struck me.

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Replying to GeniesLoki @GeniesLoki ·

I was reading @Meaningness's work on hunting the shadow earlier and this bit struck me.

@GeniesLoki @Meaningness

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Equanimity as not freedom from preferences and aversions but rather freedom to fully experience and be moved by your preferences and aversions, including experiencing the natural movement of integration when these conflict, rather than stuckness. twitter.com/abhayance/stat…

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@Tau_Phillips Yeah that seems like an obvious pareto improvement. Here's a more wild idea that I think has something to it:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Novel voting system idea 💡 Ranked choice plus in order to win the winner needs >67% of people to have actually ranked them at all. Any candidate acceptable to less than ⅓ of population simply disqualified. No more alienating half the population while riling up your base.

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Retweeted @fablor

The Oxford comma wins again. twitter.com/BCDreyer/statu…

These news shows are all owned & run by the same corp, which sometimes gives them all the same script to read... which kinda makes sense? Like a hundred Hamlet performances. ...still creepy to experience, and 😬🤨🙃 given the subject matter.

☘️𝕃𝕦𝕔𝕜𝕪 𝕄𝕔𝔾𝕖𝕖‎ @LuckyMcGee ·

I am now fully convinced we are living in an episode of The Black Mirror. 😵 This is creepy. x.com/ivan8848/statu…

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Replying to Bushra Farooqui 📖 🕯️ @startuployalist ·

IFS teaches you how to “be Jesus” to all your parts and to the world 🤯

@startuployalist Source?! This is super relevant to something I've been working on. (relevant👇)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated as it wants to be integrated.

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Retweeted @startuployalist

I just heard an analogy: consider all human beings as iPhones with three major kinds of apps—except Internal Family Sy…

What's the secret to great comedy?

Bushra Farooqui 📖 🕯️ @startuployalist ·

Knowing the most beneficial thing at the most crucial time is a type of omniscience, like omnipresence

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Replying to johnny, skroderider era @generativist ·

My first (attempt at) a goal. (Sundays are for trying out other people's work)

@generativist Wow I love this articulation ♥

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Enthused enthusiasm as someone tries out my app 😊

johnny, skroderider era @generativist ·

Genuinely like the enthusiasm energy here (@Malcolm_Ocean project complice.co)

[1 more photo]

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Replying to grin @grin_io ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @LBRYcom LBRY has grown a lot recently. still a long way to go though we're very into the "lets work together" approach: - open source, open data, open everything - encourage remixing, contributing how ppl want, etc - hired several devs who found us on github and started pitching in

@lyoshenka @LBRYcom Mmm, cool, well let's stay in touch as things flow forward. I'm expecting a lot of platforms to emerge that play various roles in all of this, from content to collaboration... thinking about @petheth's @MetaFam which I was checking out this morning.

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Replying to grin @grin_io ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @Falkvinge @LBRYcom long-time listener, first-time caller. early beeminder user who remembers when you first started complice. im rediscovering twitter as a public multiplayer roam, and digging into the "introspective alts" cluster this was particularly 🥰: x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

@lyoshenka @Falkvinge @LBRYcom Oh so cool! Yeah, very neat to see the kind of long-game of following people. This guy was one of the main people who bought a digital copy of my album years & years ago, and then here he is tweeting at me a few months ago:

Haider Al-Mosawi 🚢 @haideralmosawi ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Was listening to your album a few weeks back. ❤️

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Retweeted @nosilverv

Dog passes mirror self-recognition test, becomes self aware and immediately descends into an existential crisis https://t.co…

Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets

Looping back around to the first tweet in this thread, which is apparently not available anymore (☹️) but was cats seeing their humans faces cat-ified by an app and going "whaaa", here we have a dog maybe having an identity crisis.

Guy @nosilverv ·

Dog passes mirror self-recognition test, becomes self aware and immediately descends into an existential crisis

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa > I'd like to fix that With most people I would assume they mean "become the sort of person who'd be more welcome there" but knowing you this is at least as likely to mean "fix India so that it's more welcoming to the sort of person I am" 😂🚀

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Given that twitter said they wouldn't #DeactivateTrump because he was POTUS, I've been wondering if his account is going to get deactivated on Jan 20th... ...below is sort of a decent case for doing it sooner, though would probably make an embarrassment of the @POTUS acct.

Stephanie "LB" 🟧 @LincolnsBible ·

REMINDER: Again, donald has been tweeting from his PERSONAL account. All this time. The official account of the President is @POTUS. Deactivating donald’s personal account does not infringe on his ability to use this platform as POTUS. #deactivatedonald #deactivatetrump

quoting @MeidasTouch: Dear @jack @Twitter @TwitterSafety, the labels are not sufficient. It’s past time to #DeactivateTrump. Our safety and our democracy depends on it.

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Me: "I'm sure you have a deep & coherent reason for doing these apparently-senseless things ♥️" @SarahAMcManus: "…that would make a great Hallmark card 🤔" (we've been diving deep into Coherence Therapy)

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Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman

@Aella_Girl Don't make plans longer than a month. Do what's fun for any or no reason, what's terrifying if you have a go…

Replying to meadowsweet @umbersorrow ·

ddlg relationship with myself

@umbersorrow ding dong little gong

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@DiamonDie @BoylenBrian He has a REALLY good schema that helped me identify subtle CPTSD flashback behaviors, discloses a lot of info that implies most people have CPTSD, but he's also committed to the idea that CPTSD is abnormal, that the law is on the side of victims, endorses scapegoating parents, &c

@ben_r_hoffman @DiamonDie @BoylenBrian Ahh good to know. Baffling that he would have such a good schema for identifying CPTSD and not be able to recognize that almost everybody's got at least a few random bits of it from shit like school and so on. Maybe making this error?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@QiaochuYuan @a_witch_in_time Yeah, I generally phrase this as "because the DSM measures deviation from norm, it is structurally incapable of recognizing a dysfunctional condition that everyone has." I tried to say this to a group of ppl at YC120 and one of them literally said "but then it would be normal!"

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Replying to @HHMusicOfficial

@HHMusicOfficial @SarahAMcManus

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@maltybegray lol you ended up teasing yourself ...tbh this sometimes happens to me when I put on a cute skirt too

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

One of my assets is my follow list. I can take any search and make it better by adding “only tweets from people I follow.”

@AskYatharth Hugely with you on this. I have a quicksearch for it (twf)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Hey twitter-searchers / meta-threaders (@visakanv @conaw @QiaochuYuan) One cool new thing I've been playing with recently is when I'm threading & want something to QT on a topic, searching for tweets from "people I follow". twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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slaving away down in the dopa-mines ⛏️

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@collinofzion @QiaochuYuan

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

slaving away down in the dopa-mines ⛏️

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@sashintweets @Malcolm_Ocean Basically no... for example, as a little kid, you're not picking among models; it's just the way the world is (in your family). (In developmental terms, you're not holding the model as "object" - you're "subject" to it.)

@SarahAMcManus @sashintweets Yeah it's more of an evolutionary process, even among adults, I think.

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

Therefore, if we are to have law, it must be new, and none can claim the right of law, only custom, to any property, reputation, or relationships they possessed before. Likewise all blame and debt was incurred in a lawless world and cannot be recognized by the legitimate law.

@ben_r_hoffman Are you saying that in some sense no presently existing system of law is legitimate? And are you saying there used to be legitimate law or that humanity has never had such? (and if the former, on what timescale did this change?)

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Also trying to clarify the sense of "law" where what makes the law law is not the judges' robes or the civil code or the police or the jails, but the implied communication protocol.

@ben_r_hoffman Yes, all this makes sense to me.

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@ben_r_hoffman this sounds awesome hmm

@QiaochuYuan @ben_r_hoffman huh! I've done some stuff like this intuitively at times, I think, feeling into different postures then wiggling also wow, I was just wiggling for 30s while reading this exchange, and now that I'm typing my shoulder has a bunch of tension 🤔

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@callumflack @Malcolm_Ocean This checks out? I grok Carse, but I don’t grok McGilchrist. Don’t yet understand this.

@AskYatharth @callumflack Yeah this definitely checks out.

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Replying to Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

@startuployalist No, over the phone.

@diviacaroline @startuployalist He apparently has an IFS self-therapy book tho:

uncatherio @uncatherio ·

@altversachi @nevoitbien @ch402 @meditationstuff Yep! The recommendation I’ve seen most recently is for Jay Earley’s Self-Therapy IFS book, but perhaps @diviacaroline might know of others?

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Replying to 𝖒𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖊𝖑𝖈𝖚𝖗𝖟𝖎 @michaelcurzi ·

I get skeeved out when too much effort is put into ‘holding space’ Like, I’m not trying to ‘feel heard’ right now. How much does the milk cost

@michaelcurzi If you wanted me to feel heard & understood, you would be responding like you heard me and understood me.

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

Has someone built a Workflowy -> @RoamResearch importer? It's just a copy/paste action, but for someone with years of data in Workflowy... putting all that in a single page would be... suboptimal. cc @Malcolm_Ocean

@Conaw @RoamResearch Ahh I kinda did! wf2roam. Haven't used it to import everything though because I have too many roam dbs, so didn't hit this issue. So it doesn't actually directly handle this particular issue atm. I'll see about adding that sometime this week.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Yo #roamcultists coming from WorkFlowy! I haven't done the slack conversion script yet, but I wrote one for converting WorkFlowy data to @RoamResearch while keeping the last-modified stamps. It's here, and I think it's pretty great: github.com/malcolmocean/w… twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

I keep thinking about this -- rebasing chat messages so often good ideas come out in discussion -- I want to boil it down to something I can throw in a zettelkasten but keep the original context bc all compression is lossy Chat in Roam type thing

quoting @devonzuegel: I wish there were a way to rebase chat messages https://t.co/m0dnZPCC6w

@Conaw You already know this but for future-searcher reference, @maxkriegers has some designs on this he's working to implement:

Max @kinespheric_ ·

🗨️ can we augment our online chats with new affordances? 🧠 what does a conversational medium that supports *thinking* look like? 🔀 Is there a pathway from the linear, one-dimensional, immutable logs we call "online conversation"? I made a comic! a9.io/glue-comic/

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@Conaw @maxkriegers Meanwhile I have some ideas for how to do chat on top of roam, and it mostly wants immutable blocks, so that people can't like, accidentally (or on purpose) edit each others' messages later. And to make the messages more like tweets/deliverables:

Conor @Conaw ·

Threads on Twitter, as a tool for thought, let you build a GTD like system you can trust. Each tweet is a discrete deliverable, -- in language of @fortelabs -- something you can put down and pick back up for something larger x.com/Conaw/status/1…

quoting @Conaw: The Zettelkasten. "It's like the GTD for intellectual progress" What it is, and why you want one. (thread)

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Replying to Sarah McManus ✨🍲 BOLD SOUP🍲✨ @SarahAMcManus ·

@nosilverv Tagging @malcolmocean for sandpile metaphors / self-organized criticality

@SarahAMcManus @nosilverv @MalcolmOcean Just found this now when I tried searching to see if anyone had tagged @MalcolmOcean (not my handle, unfortunately; I've got an underscore) Incredible timing tho. Literally that week I was staring at self-organized criticality! A thread:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Self-Organized Criticality is a really important concept, and basic to how the universe manages to end up being interesting. These dynamics are fractal so they show up on all scales (eg neurons). @TaylorPearsonMe's thread is great. I'm going to share some thoughts of my own 🧵 twitter.com/TaylorPearsonM…

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I posit that you've got some sort of genius magic that you want to unleash on the world. What's your best guess at what's bottlenecking you on making that happen? A: idk what it is B: idk where to start C: overworked/overwhelmed D: need help w parts of it E: other + elaborate!

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I wanna call this "based" but I'm almost worried I might debase it by doing so.

johnny, skroderider era @generativist ·

@Thinkwert

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

reached new level today. usually when im in fight situations my leg starts shaking which triggers anxiety etc etc. today (thanks to meditative process??) leg started shaking and i could just OBSERVE AND IGNORE and stand my ground. you can only be courageous insofar as you fear

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@nosilverv

🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@QiaochuYuan sure enlightenment is great but have you ever tried wiggling

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Retweeted @Aella_Girl

don't go to school, it's bad for you

@pauljfindley1 @Aella_Girl Got an engineering degree at a top school; incentives are still shit. > School taught me to write banal garbage b/c ppl would 👍 it > now trying express my plans in writing, my mind keeps simulating some imaginary prof who'll look it over & go “good enuf” malcolmocean.com/2015/06/unlear…

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@pauljfindley1 @Aella_Girl School and its adverse effects start way earlier than that.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

hey remember how we went to school where we spent 8 hours a day for over a decade having what our bodies could do completely under the control of authority figures boy i wonder if that had any lasting effects

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This is more accurate than ppl realize about real life too. Huge amount of energy will be unleashed by orgs that are coherently aligned towards real human values, compared to existing orgs that are at best goodharting & at worst evil, thus their humans unconsciously sabotage.

QC @QiaochuYuan ·

my new metatheory about why the good guys always win in fiction is because the bad guys are subconsciously sabotaging themselves because they, too, actually want to see the good guys win

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my new metatheory about why the good guys always win in fiction is because the bad guys are subconsciously sabotaging themselves because they, too, actually want to see the good guys win

@QiaochuYuan

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

This is more accurate than ppl realize about real life too. Huge amount of energy will be unleashed by orgs that are coherently aligned towards real human values, compared to existing orgs that are at best goodharting & at worst evil, thus their humans unconsciously sabotage. twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…

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Retweeted @rsnous

Cartogram of Canada is so weird

I resonate strongly with @rsnous' comment below, in general. The context included @rsnous using a metaphor of picking up a crayon to color something to describe an interaction he was wanting to have. The simplicity & at-hand-ness of the crayon is huge. #MetaphorsMatter

Omar Rizwan @rsnous ·

@codexeditor hmm. I guess I'm not actually that interested in how these things get implemented (annotation layer, inline text syntax, whatever) I'm always much more concerned with the surface level of how the interface feels (x.com/rsnous/status/…)…

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

quoting @rsnous: my latent take on Xanadu https://t.co/AtklgVhEsf

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Replying to Omar Rizwan @rsnous ·

@codexeditor like, it should feel light and natural. it should feel like picking up a crayon that's on your desk! it shouldn't be, like, going into the Tools menu and then into the Annotations submenu and selecting Make New Annotation

@rsnous @codexeditor

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I resonate strongly with @rsnous' comment below, in general. The context included @rsnous using a metaphor of picking up a crayon to color something to describe an interaction he was wanting to have. The simplicity & at-hand-ness of the crayon is huge. #MetaphorsMatter twitter.com/rsnous/status/…

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Fuck Pinterest.

Froyo☆Tam @FroyoTam ·

Pinterest is responsible for the loss of finding sources for archived images online, and destroying reverse image searching

quoting @cnstntnnn: pinterest is the pinnacle of the internet like nobody is talking, nobody is having discourse, you just look at pretty pictures and vibe

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@Malcolm_Ocean shhh you gave away the esoteric interpretation 🤫

@QiaochuYuan

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Replying to Jess (in Porto) @frideswyth ·

How this thinking emoji is thinking but kinda inclined to believe or just engage with it 🤔 And this thinking emoji is thinking but kinda suspicious of it 🧐

@ssica3003 the first one is still skeptical. remove the hand and it's practically 🤨 I made these custom guys for more like "hmm fun idea!" and I have them on some slacks. Plus ofc :thinking-heart:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm in the early draft stages of a new emoji proposal. RT if you also want this emoji to exist. Reply with how you might use it! It's called Thinking-Heart #ValentinesDay #ValentinesDayMemes

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

I once saw a group where a guy was getting softly-bullied and it was really really evident that he has participating in it in a way: he wanted to get bullied, he wanted to be in that role. I now found the same was true of me in my youth

@nosilverv

🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

Informative response on 2; "safe" means a VERY different thing to CPTSD (knowing that you occupy your expected position relative to the pattern of violence around you) than to means-ends-reasoning (an acceptably low hazard rate).

quoting @magicianbrain: @NandeEttelea @ben_r_hoffman my interpretation: 1 stuff that people don't even think is sexual e.g. balloons 2 specific preferences for which situations make you feel safe and let you be aroused but can outwardly pass for vanilla 3 needing control, power, dominance etc. or needin

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Replying to Nabeel S. Qureshi @nabeelqu ·

@TrentonBricken Impressive :)

@nabeelqu @TrentonBricken If you haven't watched this clip (iirc @JoHenrich mentions it in SooS) definitely do. Chimps learn from others by observing what is possible. Humans actually copy exactly, even if it might seem unnecessary (idk if these kids are interviewed about that!) youtube.com/watch?v=Jwwcly…

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Replying to Dave Friedman @friedmandave ·

@nabeelqu Amazon isn’t remote first though. Not sure about stripe. @gitlab seems to be the canonical example of a company successfully doing remote at scale.

@friedmandave @nabeelqu @gitlab @automattic is another and @Shopify went all-in on remote early in the pandemic oh and ofc @basecamp basecamp.com/remote-resourc…

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Reading this I can't help but see our twitter scenius as an example of #1. We're not a startup—yet. I'm working on it. Well, sort of. I've always been more of a lifestyle biz guy.

Nabeel S. Qureshi @nabeelqu ·

Maybe startups will end up bisecting hard into two cultures: (1) remote-first, explicit/writing-first/declarative, async comms, documentation is king (“machines”) (2) in-person-first, tribal, implicit/synchronous comms, knowledge passed on orally (“cults”)

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

@nabeelqu @RoamResearch We're mostly 1. Only 1/3 of the team is in the US - but we live in the same house. Hope to shift more towards two with the ranch.

@Conaw @nabeelqu @RoamResearch Guessing long-term that Roam will max out both of these dimensions and queer this binary hard.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

please indulge my bullshit (just a little bit, as a treat) by replying to this tweet with one of my quotes, I just wanna know how it feels

@visakanv "Once you reprogram your failure response, then you really just want to be studying your own failures as much as you can bear." — Visakan Veerasamy

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Replying to @abhayance

@AbhayPrasanna @visakanv

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

(Robin Hanson hat on) Songs commonly say “shake what your momma gave you”. But one’s father contributes at least 50% DNA to whatever it is one would be shaking. Wat mean?????

@nosilverv youtube.com/watch?v=FrG4TE…

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Replying to Tyler is finishing a book, slow to reply @TylerAlterman ·

Update: the metatribe is lame now. Cool ppl, meet over at metametatribe

@TylerAlterman those in the know just call it the TribeTribeTribe

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@tweetsbenedict Editing emotional memory by triggering memory reconsolidation

@nickcammarata @tweetsbenedict Btw @nickcammarata I think you're spooking people a bit by using the word "edit", because most editable things are overwriteable, and people don't know how reconsolidation works and that

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Our brains aren't dumb enough to let us simply overwrite our old understanding of things with a new understanding. We'd lose hard-earned lessons. Learning happens by holding the old & new knowings together, til they form a clear, more complex picture 📔👇 lesswrong.com/s/ZbmRyDN8TCpB…

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Replying to uncatherio @uncatherio ·

@ssica3003 Sorry @Malcolm_Ocean who I think this happened with first and I haven’t revealed this to yet!

@uncatherio @ssica3003 s'all good 🙃

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Retweeted @SarahAMcManus

"...You don't want combinatorics at 2am; I am abandoned forever" - @Malcolm_Ocean

I want a version of the eye 👁️ emoji but rotated 90° like a third eye.

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Why don't contacts apps have a proper way to indicate "this is a dead email/address/number for this person; never select it for future use, but continue to associate old logs to/from it with this person"? This is such a basic problem.

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Replying to @ponekarl

@ponekarl ♥️ inexplicably scary to approach figuring out why, too? Wondering what arises for you when you read this template...

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I'm developing a new general integration pathway, based on this insight "unlearning trauma responses is allowed to be fun", and further implications. Curious to hear thoughts from @xuenay, @mattgoldenberg, @nosilverv, @pjeby, etc Short thread 🧵 1/5 twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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@ponekarl also worth noting that "the most important thing" is a label for something that's a conjecture… maybe your scariness represents an important critique of that conjecture, that needs to be incorporated in order for your plan to not be a disaster! I find this is often the case 🙂

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Just realized Canada's 1867 Confederation came just 2 years after US Civil War ended, and that this was allegedly part of why it was "designed with a stronger central government". That... makes sense. Damn. Weird that growing up I didn't hear about supra-national context.

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Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman

We all need help deserving the kind of trust that we desperately need others to deserve, because we have all been intimi…

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We all need help deserving the kind of trust that we desperately need others to deserve, because we have all been intimidated out of behaving in a trustworthy manner.

@ben_r_hoffman This is a pretty good articulation of one of the main things I'm working on at the moment! I might describe it as "the process by which people can come to trust each other as much as they can without being naive, and by which people can come to be more trustworthy."

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@ponekarl or actually, put even slightly more clearly, I would say "maybe the scariness' critique needs to be incorporated in order for the thing to _actually_ be the most important thing and not just a toy model

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Replying to Masked hobgoblin @lastcrazyhorn ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Lack of training - and overworked/fatigue - and the only place it looks like I can start is through more schooling, to which I am vehemently opposed.

@lastcrazyhorn What's the thing you think you need more training &/ credentials for? Let's see if we can find another path to tap your magic ✨

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Thread · Background intentions, relationship to goals, and the Goal-Crafting Intensive

Yup, sometimes you can put an intention in the background and your system will make it happen. That clarity makes a difference. Honestly sometimes *trying* to do something directly can generate resistance. All of that is stuff we talk about at these online workshops we run.

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Funny how goals get done without needing to hyper focus on the goals themselves. I forgot I set these goals during the Goal Setting Intensive with @Malcolm_Ocean Clear intentions, lightly held.

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Tickets are now available for the upcoming Goal-Crafting Intensives, btw! 6 sessions around New Year's. Click this link to check it out, or keep reading this thread for more relevant thoughts. complice.co/event/plan2021…

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Now what about the thread about how naming goals is kind of like ritual magic? (@ThreadHelper isn't finding this one for me, but that's fine, I can search it. TH is still also magical.)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Realization: the way I relate to my goals on complice.co is… kinda like ritual magic. Basically by naming & enumerating the main careabouts I'm moving towards, I create affordances for invoking them as sources of motivation & clarity. 🧙‍♂️✨ Thread on naming goals 🧵

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For anyone who's skeptical of the entire idea of goals, here's a long thread that thoroughly points out that basically all issues with goals are actually issues with one's *relationship* to goals, and probably exist towards your implicit goals anyway.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

The term "pre-success failure" from @ScottAdamsSays' book is a gem. His related idea that you should have systems and not have goals is absurd. (have both!) Scott cites Olympic athletes as examples. 🤨 Take 3 guesses what goal an Olympic athlete has... 🥇🥈🥉

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If the word "goal" doesn't work for you, no worries. It's just a pointer to whatever you deeply want. If you can get really clear on what you want, and let yourself do it, it can flow! And—that's not always easy. So you need approaches in the meantime.

Guy @nosilverv ·

Here's the mistake: doing what you want is not an ACTIVE doing, it's a passive allowing. "Giving in to temptation." You don't DO sleep, you allow yourself to fall asleep.

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Here's @m_ashcroft with a tweet and some discussion about how he prefers the word "intention" over "goal".

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Goodhart's Law also neatly captures the difference between an intention and a goal. Once you make something a goal and start really ~caring~ that you achieve it, you remove the potential for spontaneous authentic expression. Goals are fine, just hold them lightly.

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Here's a rave review from last year 🔥

Bobby Scar @bobbyscar ·

Just finished this workshop and it was SUPER worth it :o There are 2 more next weekend (Sat/Sun), if you're thinking you need any help with goal setting I highly recommend checking it out ($25 up front and pay what you want after it's over) complice.co/event/plan2020…

quoting @bobbyscar: Sup wit it -- I've decided to start 2020 with my first New Year's Resolution in over a decade: grind out Gratitude. On Sunday I'mma do this 2020 Goal-Crafting Intensive (and try using @CompliceGoals ).. and I'll lyk how it goes after https://t.co/rxhHNuV6hm

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The workshop isn't just a bunch of lecture content & exercise. It's got a little of those, but it's choose-your-own-adventure: work through at your own pace & talk with coaches to get unstuck or for general advice. Link for Dec & Jan events: complice.co/event/plan2021…

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@m_ashcroft Muaha I actually used your tweet here as jumping off point for the first thread about the upcoming sessions!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Yup, sometimes you can put an intention in the background and your system will make it happen. That clarity makes a difference. Honestly sometimes *trying* to do something directly can generate resistance. All of that is stuff we talk about at these online workshops we run. twitter.com/m_ashcroft/sta…

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

The mental state correlated with creation seems to be one of monomaniacal focus. The mental state correlated with awakening seems to be one of open broad maybe infinite awareness. Gg y’all

@nosilverv brain hemispheres man I think it's possible to simultaneously have: • LH monomaniacally focused • RH infinite awareness The two have to share a body and in some senses "consciousness", but they can learn to synergize pretty damn effectively I think.

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Thread · When unblending goes too far and internal parts get reified · 8 of 9 tweets

Very possible to take unblending too far & reify the parts. "Part", as @AskYatharth gets to lower down, is only useful as shorthand for acknowledging internal conflict: "Part of me wants X" is true of any want, but unless other parts *disagree*, we usually just say "I want X".

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

⚠️ Common Trap with IFS, parts work, etc. It’s sooo easy to get into the mode of “I’m going to let my inner kids play.” “My inner child wants this!” Noo! Go let *yourself* play! You want this! Fuck what the child wants. What do you want? You are the child.

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To take a trivial example, say that you have the following wants: A) go get a snack B) finish writing a tweet thread While conflicted: "part of me wants A, part of me wants B" But, if parts assent, can rearrange to "I want to A then B" or "I want to B then A".

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Or maybe: "I want to both go get a snack and finish writing a tweet thread, but I think on net what I want to do is finish writing the thread and save room in my belly for dinner which is coming up" And lol if a part objects you will discover yourself doing something else 🤷‍♀️🙃

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That bit is important! Very easy when approaching non-self-coercion to feel like you must force yourself not to force yourself to do things. My take: try saying "I choose X" [despite inner conflict] but if that doesn't work, then don't double down.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

you don't have to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself to do things you don't have to force yourself not to force yourself not to force yourself to do things but it's okay if you do

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And, where possible, give yourself space to let the problem solve you, in the background, while lots of other things shake out.

Michael Ashcroft @m_ashcroft ·

Funny how goals get done without needing to hyper focus on the goals themselves. I forgot I set these goals during the Goal Setting Intensive with @Malcolm_Ocean Clear intentions, lightly held.

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Lol I'm just rambling at this point. Where did this thread start? Oh yeah, parts. Anyway, the experience of "parts" is because various systems are stuck in a traffic jam and not able to allow each other to give into their various temptations.

Guy @nosilverv ·

Here's the mistake: doing what you want is not an ACTIVE doing, it's a passive allowing. "Giving in to temptation." You don't DO sleep, you allow yourself to fall asleep.

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Consider the phrase "I allow myself to X". The shift that @AskYatharth is pointing at is from identifying with the "I" to the "myself". The feeling is an experience of "I'm free to do what I want!"

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

Who do you think you are, you big dreary adult, “allowing” the kids to play? Go fucking play with them. NOW!!!!!! Don’t come back till you’re muddy and have some scratches. Now shoo.

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Recommended further reading… this chapter of The Guru Papers, which talks extensively about how people reify parts of themselves as good and parts as bad, and how the two rely on each other to justify their own existence & frame. docs.google.com/document/d/1HK…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

⚠️ Common Trap with IFS, parts work, etc. It’s sooo easy to get into the mode of “I’m going to let my inner kids play.” “My inner child wants this!” Noo! Go let *yourself* play! You want this! Fuck what the child wants. What do you want? You are the child.

@AskYatharth I know there's a icon now to see QTs, but I still feel like I want to comment here being like "I wrote a thread building on yours"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Very possible to take unblending too far & reify the parts. "Part", as @AskYatharth gets to lower down, is only useful as shorthand for acknowledging internal conflict: "Part of me wants X" is true of any want, but unless other parts *disagree*, we usually just say "I want X". twitter.com/AskYatharth/st…

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you're just trying to trick me into saying something clever, aren't you

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Realization re Phase 2: reconsolidation usually involves feeling some sense of agency around destructive behaviors, and for many people these likely include stuff that mainstream society considers NOT OKAY to do on purpose. Gotta disown that culture.

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

We cannot publicly, consciously admit those desires, and so they go unendorsed. Talking about the “part of us that wants to drink,” then, becomes the only outlet for acknowledging the reality of those desires.

quoting @AskYatharth: @meekaale Our mind cannot grasp the vagary of scattered mental processes operating past on past trauma so much so that we need to call them “parts” and ask them questions and ask “what they are trying to do.” A useful interface, to be sure. But a fake one nevertheless.

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There are a few different approaches to disowning the mainstream culture. Ultimately to some extent you need to have a sense of a nonjudgmental culture that other real people you know actually hold. Auxiliarily, can also try to cultivate your own vibe:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@visakanv @KevinSimler ☝☝Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis. ☝☝ Not mainstream, not counter-culture, not counter-counter-culture. Cultivating my own aesthetic. twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Tickets now available for our yearly Goal-Crafting Intensives, a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! complice.co/event/plan2021…

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

Goals get a bad rap but intentionality is SOO powerful. Highly recommend these goal-crafting intensives, I'll be joining this year as well!

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Tickets now available for our yearly Goal-Crafting Intensives, a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! https://t.co/DJW9pTTlJV

@mattgoldenberg Yeah we might name the event and the concept of "goal" somewhat differently if we were inventing the event from scratch now, but it's hard to avoid these kinds of issues since people project their old ideas onto new things anyway.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

For anyone who's skeptical of the entire idea of goals, here's a long thread that thoroughly points out that basically all issues with goals are actually issues with one's *relationship* to goals, and probably exist towards your implicit goals anyway. twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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We said we were going to do this "for the time being". And we did. But the Time Being is a hungry god, and he demanded ever more sacrifice.

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Replying to PW @patrickwayne ·

@fortelabs I think I agree...but Hilarious b/c A. it wasn’t or B. it was trading one master (email) for another, or C. we had so little idea even 4 yrs ago of what would come soon (Notion?) or D. Something else? Honest question 🙋‍♂️

@patrickwayne @fortelabs

Andrew Clay Shafer 雷启理 @littleidea ·

slack solved email like heroin solved opium

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Replying to 🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

Emergency vehicles' sirens cause me less suffering if I scream back at them instead of submitting in silence to the big loud noisy animal's dominance display. Silence is motor suppression. Some asanas were easier to learn to relax into when I let myself vocalize.

quoting @ben_r_hoffman: "Suffering" is just blocked motion. A practice where sitting still in a monastery wasn't such a central case wouldn't suffer from this confusion. We're trained to imagine that we can hold onto satisfaction by freezing. Nei Gong seems like a precise functional patch here.

@ben_r_hoffman Whenever there's a loud sound I usually harmonize with it. Some machines have a nice hum, car alarms usually have a beep with a rhythm I can polyrhythm with. Sirens are harder but still doable. Haven't tried that with my worst enemy yet though: motorcycles & muscle cars 🤔

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> "I sometimes catch myself trying to subtly force some version of 'acceptance' that I think I'm supposed to be having as a spiritual practitioner,. But acceptance doesn't need to be forced, it arises naturally if I l slow down and allow a complete experience of my objections."

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Replying to @fail_sun

@fail_sun

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Replying to @memeticpower

@tyson_flows I'm down!

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.@SarahAMcManus: I wanna talk more about this, and I want to buzz my hair. Wait, do I want to talk while buzzing? I don't want that. Me: Yep I inferred your preference 2s before you did. Talk later! S: You're coherently extrapolating my volitions! M: Aww yeah, you'll like that 😉

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Replying to Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

What's the best wisdom you can (be bothered to) tweet me right now? Hit me up with that good **** friends

@captain_mrs

Dee W Hock @deewhock ·

Wisdom is complex, knowledge is simple. Wisdom is rare, knowledge is abundant. Wisdom is difficult, knowledge is easy. It is much better to deeply understand what little we know, than to know more than we can understand, for understanding, not knowledge is the path to wisdom.

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Replying to Dee W Hock @deewhock ·

Shareholders in publicly traded commercial corporations are not owners in any meaningful sense of the word. They are speculators in a vast casino betting that someone in future will pay more for their shares than they did.

@deewhock Reminds me of this investment advice, which is completely the opposite:

Gary Basin @garybasin ·

Here's a simple technique that tells you when to sell your investments Never sell! Don't liquidate unless you need the money. Only buy assets that you believe in enough to hold forever.

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

5/ If you're getting ANY objection to being non-coercive, then you're not truly being non-coercive - to do that, you would need to integrate the part that is objecting.

@mattgoldenberg

Mrs C @captain_mrs ·

Further spoilers

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Retweeted @azlenelza

Announcing Interhackt, a hackathon to push the boundaries of interaction design The event is open to anyone whether you are…

Replying to Azlen @azlenelza ·

Announcing Interhackt, a hackathon to push the boundaries of interaction design The event is open to anyone whether you are a designer, developer, or just enjoy dreaming up new kinds of interfaces Join us at interhackt.space 🚀

@azlenelza @KHPavle Oh fyeah! I may be travelling some of that week, but would love to at least pop in and comment on what people are doing 🚀

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Replying to kristen @kpaxle ·

the practice is to slowly explore movement based on what *feels* good - it's very satisfying

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@KHPavle

🐦🔬🔭🌴🕺🏋️‍♂️🧘‍♂️🤸‍♂️🧍‍♂️👨‍👩‍👦 @ben_r_hoffman ·

@QiaochuYuan so, first you make sure your whole body can wiggle freely from a standing position, then you gently start instructing it to do stuff, only moving to the next step when you can do all the previous movements smoothly in a "wiggle freely" state

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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." — Marcus Aurelius This is one of my favorite quotes, and @mattgoldenberg's tweet below highlights what it means to me.

Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

5/ If you're getting ANY objection to being non-coercive, then you're not truly being non-coercive - to do that, you would need to integrate the part that is objecting.

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Applies with interpersonal relationships too, although there there's a whole deeper challenge—to affirm & honor others' needs & any distrust of you, without negating any of your own experience or self-trust or needs. Still: integrating obstacles to trust are how trust is built.

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Sometimes I feel like if I never needed to eat or go to the bathroom, I would be so perfectly focused. But it occurs to me also that I would probably be *too* focused, like those patients with right hemisphere damage who forget for hours to look away from something eye-catching.

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Vaguely thinking about twitter & timezones, and wondering how many people there are in the world who intentionally maintain a weird sleep schedule for the primary purpose of convincing someone (or everyone) that they're in a timezone they're not. A dozen? 100? 10k? Prolly rare.

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Replying to shill 🔍 @acidshill ·

i’m convinced my professor is playing mind-games with us by providing far more paper on the exam than is actually necessary to solve the problem

@acidshill bahaha I've always found myself a little sad when playing a puzzle game where you always only have exactly enough resources to solve it oddly makes the search WAY easier idk if game designers know this? probably they know this. but sometimes feels like they don't

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

I know people talk about these things every day, but there’s also a sort of bigger/broader “wave” that the right posts hit + ride at the right time to reach substantially wider audiences

@visakanv Can we strategically exploit this? I'm thinking about Senge noting in intro to 2nd edition of Fifth Discipline that he wrote it to get ahead of a fad he successfully predicted would show up in the 90s about "Learning Organizations", to emphasize systems thinking not just fluff.

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me, under my breath to myself just now: muscles are so cool! they're like... stuff that does!

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Retweeted @Roamfu

I attended the last one and I highly recommend The way they run it also gives you a lot of ideas if you plan to create your ow…

Retweeted @diviacaroline

Prices aren’t perfect. Prices aren’t even necessarily “good enough”. So I’m reminded of this classic post from @pault…

If: • "perfect is the enemy of good" • "good enough is the enemy of at all" • "my enemy's enemy is my friend" Then: ↳ ...perfect and at all are friends? 🤔 ...sounds suspiciously monist-eternalist.

Divia Eden 🔍 @diviacaroline ·

Prices aren’t perfect. Prices aren’t even necessarily “good enough”. So I’m reminded of this classic post from @paultoo “I had a strange dream, and when I awoke I realized something else: ‘Good enough’ is the enemy of ‘At all’!” paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/04/perfec…

quoting @diviacaroline: @s_r_constantin Here’s a model. Prices are really pretty magical and great. However, prices are not perfect. https://t.co/nDDusYqRmP

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Thread · Why I never finish the online courses I buy

The number of online courses I have signed up for & not actually completed is absurdly high. Especially self-paced ones but even like… I dropped out of @fortelabs' BASB halfway. Watched a lil of @nateliason Roam course. Early backer on @m_ashcroft's AT course, haven't touched.

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Signed up for @mattgoldenberg's Procrastination Playbook bootcamp and didn't go to most of the sessions. He held a pretty good container for us exploring what schemas might have been active for me around "homework" & shoulds & stuff there though—kudos.

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And that's far from a complete list. Part of this probably reflects not so much a lack of follow-through but an over-optimism about *buying* courses, only to discover that they don't really feel like they're addressing my real situation/bottleneck.

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The only online course I can recall completing is @ribbonfarm Longform blogging course and I'm sure that was online possible because it was live & had an external deliverable. Felt less like a course and more like "onramp to RF guest post".

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I want like... a thing where when I go on twitter, my feed randomly includes content from online courses I've signed up for, not just tweets. Why can't this content be folded into my natural dopamine hooks? Hmm...

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I'm taking in a deeper layer of this experience of mine is a huge part of why the Goal-Crafting Intensives we host are structured the way they are: • a couple optional pre-event exercises • live 5h sessions w 10min vids, exercises & coaches complice.co/event/plan2021…

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Even the pre-event exercises are quite compatible with people not doing it all at once but kind of opening it up periodically randomly. 💭 Dream List benefits from background rumination & reverie. 📅 Time Audit benefits from logging over the course of a week.

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@AskYatharth can your co-lifing concept create an ongoing platform that gets people doing courses together? Maybe even different courses, just like, showing up to learn together! Or maybe a Complice coworking room explicitly for working MOOCs & other online courses… hmm 🤔

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Retweeted @mattgoldenberg

Loopy model of reasons your life sucks. Credit to @theorangealt for the model. Play around with it to see how much ac…

Retweeted @reasonisfun

Thread on: willpower vs wantpower enlightenment-oriented (feel good internally) vs heaven-oriented (affect the extern…

Hold the line Love isn't always on time

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@mijustin Just came across this 5y later and am struck by how @RoamResearch has 41k followers 1 year after creation while @Conaw, despite substantial growth in that same phase (5× or more) is around 25k. Wonder what makes the difference?

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Replying to Derrick Reimer @derrickreimer ·

This turned out to be a big stumbling block for Level. I was full of passion for the mission and had various platforms to project my excitement. Lots of people seemed to be on board! But things were quite different when the rubber met the road. derrickreimer.com/essays/2019/05…

@derrickreimer Oho, you were building a slack replacement? Quite a space to be in. I've been thinking about this for awhile and about how someone might actually do something *new* for virtual text-based conversations.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Currently looking for software to replace slack. They're all just fucking clones of slack (which is itself an IRC clone, blah blah) with more kitchen-sink of features, undercut pricing, and probably less smooth basic functionality. Still nobody building anything new.

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@derrickreimer My guess (based on reading the original Level manifesto and the postmortem) is that you didn't actually have a new metaphor, you just had a really good articulation of a pain point.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

If you want to sell something that solves a problem people currently have no solution for, then you just need to identify their pain point in a way that makes them feel seen & heard, and then they'll assume you have the solution. (which may be naive 😆👇) twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

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The album is called "Calming Releases" 😂 SEO was just the beginning of algorithm hacking.

Blair Neal @laserpilot ·

So - music marketing is hard. Should I have led with the fact that I made a juvenile joke album? Each track is a spa music parody that has only one quiet (but obvious) fart sound. The ultimate goal is to get this on algorithmic spa playlists. Prank ur friends and masseurs today

quoting @laserpilot: A few weeks ago, some friends and I made an album of minimalist meditation music called @calmingreleases Today it is out on Spotify/AM/GPM. If you make it through the first track, you’ll understand our innovative take on this classic genre 🧘 Listen: https://t.co/TBJaTUMB7k

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Can't guarantee you'll have the same results as @AskYatharth in that thread from a month ago (link in next tweet) but our GCI coaches are definitely wizards who understand deep change not just trying to push yourself hard again and again. Tix: complice.co/event/plan2021…

Guy @nosilverv ·

your boy will be coaching here, sign up -- wat? i know, it's crazy for me too...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Tickets now available for our yearly Goal-Crafting Intensives, a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! https://t.co/DJW9pTTlJV

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Aforementioned thread. This is cool stuff:

Guy @nosilverv ·

So, sharing the following (with permission) because its so perfect its basically a VIGNETTE for how inner work goes when it goes perfectly. Straddle on: First thing - a problem, in the form of a surprisingly intense emotional reaction

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The left wants to take away your rights as a result of the year twitter.com/SkyeFangs/stat…

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

Does anyone else have an idea that’s totally novel and tweet it out in a fit of passion only to realize it says basically the same thing as your last 800 tweets

@nickcammarata yep. though it's fun to iterate, and part of what's nice about twitter is there's no edit button so no sense that the past ones should be rephrased, instead just: here's a new phrasing

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Replying to Brandon Toner @brandontoner ·

@Roamfu I’m in. Cc: @Malcolm_Ocean complice.co/event/plan2021…

@brandontoner @Roamfu Fyeah! Invite your friends :D (We used to encourage people to have in-person GCI hangouts, but that's much less workable now except within-bubble. Although maybe moreso for @brandontoner in NS? Hm.)

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean what a double-plug win-win only

@AskYatharth The only losers are people who don't like win-wins.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say there isn't youtube.com/watch?v=g5qO4U…

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

What are some good follower numbers to celebrate between 𝟻𝟼𝟺 and 1000?

@AskYatharth 747 ✈

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Retweeted @AskYatharth

💀 societal broke: drill into kids: they better work hard → to be “good” 🦄 liberal woke: tell traumatised adults they ha…

Possibly the most ridiculous dream sequence of my life (so far)

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me: ...so how about if you're responsible for everything you want to be responsible for, and responsible for making yourself not responsible for everything you don't want to be responsible for? @SarahAMcManus: that's so many words ...but it seems like they're the correct ones.

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Replying to Daniel Thomason @danieljthomason ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Mostly A. I have some guesses, but not enough clarity to be ready to commit. Working on changing that, though!

@danieljthomason what if instead of committing you just took some steps in some of those directions? sometimes it's hard to see which path is the one for you until you're a few steps down it.

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Replying to Quantropy @EntropicEdge ·

@Malcolm_Ocean The bottleneck is C - need something like bell labs where a bunch of curious people are paid/allowed to work FULL-TIME on whatever they're interested in and share ideas.

@EntropicEdge join the institute institute

Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

In the last week I've had conversations with 7 people who want to start their own research institute. Pretty sure they should all get together and start the "Institute Institute".

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

@misen__ @Rididelduol yea so i'd say this pettiness and so on is serving a PURPOSE and you gotta figure out what it is AND you gotta get someone to teach you how to introject agapic love (focusing teacher, ifs coach... ) @Malcolm_Ocean has a coaching thing upcoming!

@nosilverv @misen__ @Rididelduol exactly, yeah so the "feels lame to ask" is actually its own whole thing that might be in the way of understanding why this pettiness DOES make sense to you. if it didn't make some kind of sense, you'd be doing some OTHER apparently senseless thing. QED.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Me: "I'm sure you have a deep & coherent reason for doing these apparently-senseless things ♥️" @SarahAMcManus: "…that would make a great Hallmark card 🤔" (we've been diving deep into Coherence Therapy)

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Replying to Gary Basin @garybasin ·

@Malcolm_Ocean No incentive to improve that product?

@garybasin Do the designers not use the product themselves? (I swear often this is not the case, like literally the creators never tried using their thing ever.) That's incentive enough.

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Replying to Cortex Futura @cortexfutura ·

cc @Malcolm_Ocean @visakanv

@cortexfutura @visakanv You may want to check out what Daniel Schmachtenberger is working on, which is a media site that does a ton of this synthesis & analysis.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Latest 🤯 video by Daniel Schmachtenberger, which talks in depth about memetic warfare and the information commons, then shares a project he's working on to create a source of news & epistemic education. If The Social Dilemma concerns you, check this out: youtu.be/0v5RiMdSqwk

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Replying to @mijustin

@mijustin @RoamResearch @Conaw Oh interesting. I like the metaphor!

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Replying to Jon Burks @jonathanburks ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft If you’ve got money to throw around like that maybe you’re already doing alright and don’t need any classes.

@jonathanburks @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft Eh I mean back in 2014 in the early days of complice.co Ramit Sethi's advertising convinced me that his course would solve my mktg problems but the hundreds of dollars I put into that basically came out of my student line of credit. "Free refund IFF you finish"

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Replying to Derrick Reimer @derrickreimer ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Hmm not sure exactly what you mean by "new metaphor". Level was a hybrid between email and chat. There was an inbox for tracking things you needed to follow up on, and a feed for passively observing conversations that didn't require your direct involvement.

@derrickreimer Yeah those are mostly on the feature level, not on the meaning/metaphor level. Thinking about conversation, metaphors are basic moves, like speaking, pausing, listening, inquiring. "fishbowl" for observation maybe This piece of writing explores:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Metaphor Design has become a really vital concept for me lately. Read my latest writing on it: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…

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Replying to Inactive account. Go here instead: @kcorazo @roamfu ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft I'm reading the book that goes with this model right now, and I think it is a good way to look at motivation for oneself and for people you want to teach quiz.gretchenrubin.com

@kcorazo @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft Oh, maybe rebels/questioners are less likely to do self-paced courses or something?

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Retweeted @Conaw

Barbell theory of invention - the place to look for the future is with elite performers who do weird hacks to win, and those wit…

Retweeted @visakanv

Went to bed but this has been on my mind so here’s a thread on the virtue of vanity. The word has a pretty clear history of…

Retweeted @lukebutler

Also makes me think about @Malcolm_Ocean’s explorations around how unlearning trauma can be fun. If we can deceive our ‘s…

Replying to Luke is recuperating @lukebutler ·

Also makes me think about @Malcolm_Ocean’s explorations around how unlearning trauma can be fun. If we can deceive our ‘selves’ into thinking that healing work is serious, what ways can we practice counter-deception to trigger ourselves into a state of playful healing?

@lukebutler For folks' reference:

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

unlearning trauma responses is allowed to be fun

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

More important to me than my aesthetics are my meta-aesthetics: May I hold conviction and complexity. May I feel past the mono-cultures. May I see the war and see it not as war. x.com/Malcolm_Ocean/…

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say there isn't https://t.co/eFbjSrPMtT

@AskYatharth "May I see the war and see it not as war." 😍

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Replying to johnny, skroderider era @generativist ·

Okay, @Malcolm_Ocean, now we're getting somewhere,,,

@generativist Noice.

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Huh, just realized a course creator could do this very directly, by making a locked alt that tweets the course content out, and only allowing people who've purchased the course to follow you. @m_ashcroft, probably not a priority for your course, but if you wanted an experiment…

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I want like... a thing where when I go on twitter, my feed randomly includes content from online courses I've signed up for, not just tweets. Why can't this content be folded into my natural dopamine hooks? Hmm...

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@CountJ0ecool cc: @Malcolm_Ocean for his take that Keagan stages just reflect a left-dominated culture

@AskYatharth @CountJ0ecool at your service

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Hot niche take: Kegan's stages are universal only because everyone is universally afflicted with a dysfunction related to left hemisphere fixation. In a culture where this wasn't so, there would still be developmental stages, but they'd be nearly unrecognizable as Kegan stages. twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…

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Replying to Sean Aubin @voyageur_techno ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft Everytime I'm about to buy a resource, I think about this tweet: x.com/Austen/status/…

quoting @Austen: Here's a real-world example: A code bootcamp that charges $10k/student recorded *the entire code bootcamp* and put it online, self-paced for $3k/student. 50 people signed up and paid $3k. *One* person made it past the first 45 min lesson. He quit after lesson 3.

@voyageur_techno @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft Yeah, now I basically only do it when I also want to support the person's work, because then worst case it's like, they're still supported financially at least. But it's not ideal. Maybe we need to productize the whole GCI workshop format. Could build software optimized for it.

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@telegram wtf I just joined and a person who has heard of me before but not a close friend or anything had a notification pop up saying "Malcolm Ocean has just joined" and we can see each others' numbers despite not adding to address book. Neither of us have imported contacts.

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Replying to •Freyja• @utotranslucence ·

Who do you know who has a social design project like this? Tag them plz!

@utotranslucence I'm potentially interested, yeah! I found SDC lacking, and I feel like it would be cool although possible way-too-meta for this group to do a bit of design ideation on what ideal formats for the group itself might look like. And if multiple visions, maybe multiple groups!

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So many past GCI participants QT'd this with enthusiastic recommendations! I've got both:  on a personal level, warm fuzzies 🥰  on a business level, a sense of like "huh, marketing the previous events on twitter is now having compounding returns!" 😎🔄📈

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Tickets now available for our yearly Goal-Crafting Intensives, a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! complice.co/event/plan2021…

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Retweeted @DistractedAnna

Tell me a problem and I will tell you the obvious solution you have already either tried or ruled out for a damn good r…

@danlistensto @cognazor @collinofzion

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

"GET IN THE CAR", said the cactus person

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Curious what other people think of this. I haven't had such a distinction. And which way does the causal arrow go, if these are linked in the way he describes? @mattgoldenberg @AskYatharth @nosilverv @SarahAMcManus

Eli Finer @finereli ·

If you're procrastinating on things you want to do, you're likely fighting fear. If you're procrastinating on things you need to do, you're likely fighting guilt. If you can't tell the difference between wanting and needing, you have some soul searching to do.

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@wholezero I really like your "unveil evil, then un-un un".

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@wholezero @QiaochuYuan I'm into it. For posterity, because anicca etc, here's what it looks like atm:

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Pretty pissed that Canada didn't take things all the way to zero in the summer when we were close. Like just when we were about to, we eased up, and so cases went back up. We could be having an ordinary winter with no cases. Quarantine Act strong enough to mandate this👇 I think twitter.com/thatalicewu/st…

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splat

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Thinking about what it means to be supported, and like, I think a pretty good analogy for what I want (in all domains and on all levels, not just this metaphor) is a pal who encourages & pep talks like "come on, you can do one more rep!" but never looks down on me if I can't.

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Replying to @Delca__

@Delca__ @DistractedAnna

a lion @paleoludic ·

have you tried conflating the problem with something people actually care about?

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did someone give acid to the Pipes screensaver from Windows 95?

𒉭 @DATA_BYTE_ ·

Whoever said mandalas are overrated just doesn’t know how to appreciate them

[video]

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~> If current prevention is failing a cost-benefit test, that doesn’t mean the answer is less prevention, which might fail a cost-benefit test all the more, due to the power of non-local virus multiplication properties to shut down your economy & also take lives & instill fear.

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> You still need to come up with a way of beating Covid back. Yeah people don't get this. This is what I'm pissed at "Canada" about. Pretty nebulous entity but there are lawmakers who didn't make the laws that the above quotes would obviously imply.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Pretty pissed that Canada didn't take things all the way to zero in the summer when we were close. Like just when we were about to, we eased up, and so cases went back up. We could be having an ordinary winter with no cases. Quarantine Act strong enough to mandate this👇 I think twitter.com/thatalicewu/st…

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Replying to @abhayance

@AbhayPrasanna @Conaw Somehow didn't see this at the time but @Conaw and I have actually known each other since 2015!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Conaw 😊 Fond memories of watching the meteor shower with you on top of your van, parked next to the panoramic highway... playing 93 Million Miles by Jason Mraz on your guitar, and then me falling asleep on the roof of the van with my contact lenses intentionally left in because ☄️

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I will awaken dancing, or not at all.

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(from a discussion of extended seated meditation practices, such as Zen)

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Replying to Mikael Brockman @meekaale ·

Let me know if you have any links or experiences or thoughts about applying some kind of focusing or whatever to buildings, rooms, or works of art/design! cc @nosilverv @xuenay @Malcolm_Ocean

@meekaale @nosilverv @xuenay Mmm I'd throw some metaphor design at it. What meanings do you want to experience when walking in, when working, etc? What fictional - even fantastical - character might inhabit this workspace? What (metaphorically) would be built here? Tools? Starships?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Metaphor Design has become a really vital concept for me lately. Read my latest writing on it: roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…

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I just got added to @jessems Technological Therapy list, along with @nosilverv, @xuenay, and @nickcammarata. Not sure exactly what it's pointing at, but curious to hear anybody's thoughts about what/who else might belong on this list! twitter.com/i/lists/133081…

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what embodied actions do the people you chat with online evoke for you, with their digital moves?

yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@DaltonDEmery @visakanv visa literally has an action in my head associated with him replying he doesn’t just reply. he swoops in and out this is the kind of embodied twitter game i aspire to

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @CountJ0ecool the malcolm we need 😍

@AskYatharth @CountJ0ecool

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@AskYatharth @nickcammarata @limitoftruth Brains obviously compute, but not everything that computes "is literally a computer". Almost everyone writes, but most would say no if if I asked "are you a writer?" There are all sorts of connotations implied. If you don't want ALL of those connotations, communicate better.

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Replying to Max Hodak @maxhodak_ ·

I have at least one conversation a month with someone who tries to convince me that computers are bad metaphors for the brain (not steam engines either etc). I'm always confused by this. It's not a metaphor: brains are *literally* computers. That's what they do.

@max_hodak

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@AskYatharth @nickcammarata @limitoftruth Brains obviously compute, but not everything that computes "is literally a computer". Almost everyone writes, but most would say no if if I asked "are you a writer?" There are all sorts of connotations implied. If you don't want ALL of those connotations, communicate better.

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not to mention the people who would say "yes" if I asked "are you a writer?" but who don't actually write 😆

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@AskYatharth @nickcammarata @limitoftruth Brains obviously compute, but not everything that computes "is literally a computer". Almost everyone writes, but most would say no if if I asked "are you a writer?" There are all sorts of connotations implied. If you don't want ALL of those connotations, communicate better.

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Replying to @diviaprocessing

@diviaprocessing If I read it as not a sarcastic/ironic remark, I'd say he's probably in a particular subtunnel of the self help guru reality that emphasizes productivity and autonomy and sort of takes for granted that you're single or just having casual relationships. I've been there.

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Replying to Andric @astralwave ·

Has anybody contemplated taking or have taken a mini-retirement? Not a long holiday but a hard career break to figure out next steps. 2020 has left me rather burned out, and I know of few people that have taken the leap.

@astralwave I say do it, but I always say "do it" to people who are considering anything like this, so that's not specific data to your situation but just a general comment of "I think people tend to err on the side of not doing stuff like this."

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Replying to Mike Slavin @MSlavin ·

@m_ashcroft @theorangealt @Singularitarian @MagisterLudi18 Alan is my homeboy. On the same page here. I agree that creator/consumer, CEO/janitor, happy makers/non-happy makers are not more or less virtuous. Harder to process good/evil. Feels like "virtuous people are no more virtuous than non-virtuous people" Doesn't make sense to me

@MSlavin @m_ashcroft @theorangealt @Singularitarian @MagisterLudi18 one way in which good and evil end up being the same thing

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@vgr from Carse's Finite & Infinite Games: > Evil is the termination of infinite play... to eliminate the play of another regardless of the rules. > Evil is never intended as evil. Indeed, the contradiction inherent in all evil is that it originates in the desire to eliminate evil.

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Retweeted @visakanv

48. Communication is *fundamentally* lossy. Misunderstanding is the default condition. It’s crazy that we even kinda-sorta un…

I read this recently & I was initially like "nah complice.co is original!" then realized that while it's indeed unique and unmatched, it's totally a mashup of:  • iDoneThis  • Pick Four / Ziglar goal stuff  • nowdothis.​com (now dead)  • pomodoro technique  • &+

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

64. Everything is a remix. (h/t @remixeverything) So there’s not much point trying to “be original”. Accept this, and then try to make the most interesting remixes you can. Make 100 remixes. “Originality” is just creative subconscious remixing. Cite your sources and inspiration

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

64. Everything is a remix. (h/t @remixeverything) So there’s not much point trying to “be original”. Accept this, and then try to make the most interesting remixes you can. Make 100 remixes. “Originality” is just creative subconscious remixing. Cite your sources and inspiration

@visakanv @remixeverything

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

I read this recently & I was initially like "nah complice.co is original!" then realized that while it's indeed unique and unmatched, it's totally a mashup of:  • iDoneThis  • Pick Four / Ziglar goal stuff  • nowdothis.​com (now dead)  • pomodoro technique  • &+ twitter.com/visakanv/statu…

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Replying to @alt_visa

@alt_visa @visakanv I wouldn't be super surprised if you'd hit 100 already, many of which you don't know about. At least in terms of people starting, maybe not with finishing. But likely more like 30-60.

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@ollybot_redux @mechanicalmonk1 it's like this

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Which is what I'm doing here, & why I'm writing this as a top-level thread not just a reply to Andy. This is a beacon 🌟 Want to work with people doing whatever most deeply energizes you? Join us! …how? There's no formal thing. Joining = participating in this attitude.

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Replying to @chendabunkasem

@chendabunkasem

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once had a trippy & oddly-connective convo with my dad where I said something like "I'm not sure if I want to have kids—seems like a lot of important work to do in the world" & he said "I had similar thoughts, re climate & nukes, and figured I'd raise kids who could help" 😮🥺🥲

🧭 ᴘʀᴏᴛᴏ (e/hyperfocus) 🔜 🇯🇵🧑‍💻🏡📍 (fr) @protoneutype ·

it takes MORE than one generation to take over the world plan ahead to pay it forward: 🗺👷‍♂️📐🏗 🔜 🌐👨‍👩‍👧‍👦🏡🏛 invest in the future by preparing a solid FOUNDATION 📈

quoting @protoneutype: @DEATH0x029AKVLT make it easy for ur kids and lay the groundwork for em, then they can just step in and finish the job

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Replying to 🧭 ᴘʀᴏᴛᴏ (e/hyperfocus) 🔜 🇯🇵🧑‍💻🏡📍 (fr) @protoneutype ·

it takes MORE than one generation to take over the world plan ahead to pay it forward: 🗺👷‍♂️📐🏗 🔜 🌐👨‍👩‍👧‍👦🏡🏛 invest in the future by preparing a solid FOUNDATION 📈

quoting @protoneutype: @DEATH0x029AKVLT make it easy for ur kids and lay the groundwork for em, then they can just step in and finish the job

@protoneutype

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

once had a trippy & oddly-connective convo with my dad where I said something like "I'm not sure if I want to have kids—seems like a lot of important work to do in the world" & he said "I had similar thoughts, re climate & nukes, and figured I'd raise kids who could help" 😮🥺🥲 twitter.com/protoneutype/s…

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Replying to Joe Edelman @edelwax ·

@voyageur_techno @Malcolm_Ocean @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft This is our latest attempt. I hope it will work but I’m not sure. Would love to know what’s made the distance in other domains (like at lambda) notion.so/humsys/The-Sch…

@edelwax @voyageur_techno @fortelabs @nateliason @m_ashcroft This looks really cool! Keep me posted on whether it works in the sense that people actually make it to the end and report learning something!

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wow, I don't remember tweeting this (@ThreadHelper found it) it's kinda potent!

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Awaken. Orient. Launch. Catalyze. Burn. Digest. (↳ daily)

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Citing your sources will make people trust / like you more, and maybe a blogpost about it will even win you users from those predecessors

@visakanv Yeah, I've talked about those sources in a couple places but I don't think I've written up a proper blog post about it.

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What's your favorite album that's not on all the main streaming services? (probably from an indie band in the 90s or 00s)

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Replying to Nick @nickcammarata ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @AskYatharth @limitoftruth it seems like your concern is that people think of "computer" as different than "computation doer"? That's why I specified "graph of computation" explicitly

@nickcammarata @AskYatharth @limitoftruth Yeah my replies here were mostly critiquing the original remark, not so much yours. Kinda sloppy about where exactly I put my tweets.

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Replying to james, the giant peach @JimmyRis ·

@Malcolm_Ocean @AskYatharth @nickcammarata @limitoftruth Hmm. I think there’s a more direct approach to counter this for some class of technoids: pointing at how brains DON’T work like (digital, implied) computers

@JimmyRis @AskYatharth @nickcammarata @limitoftruth I think there's a motte-bailey though where they already know that brains don't work like that, but then when you stop pointing it out they go back to thinking that everything's an equivalent turing machine and substrate-independent and completely arbitrary.

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Replying to monk @mechanical_monk ·

@liminal_warmth don't know about spotify playlists but i like electronic music mixes eg. psytrance (mixcloud.com/faeriepiratera…), minimal techno (youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2Q8W…)*, or neurofunk (youtu.be/oqlMJ9y1VQg) *check out the whole MJA channel, he has a ton of good techno/house mixes

@mechanicalmonk1 @liminal_warmth also dunno about spotify playlists but this is my go-to "get in the groove to work for an hour" electronica mix it's trance-y, which is interesting because most of trace I don't particularly like soundcloud.com/vakioagency/bl…

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Thread · Would You Rather as a non-coercive productivity technique

"Would You Rather" is usually known as a party game, but it can also be a productivity technique! #noncoercion Here's how: 1. Pick 2 things you might do {A, B} 2. Ask, "WYR do A, or B?" (say it's B) 3. Ask, "WYR do B, or C?" 4. continue until you'd rather do X than continue WYR!

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I tagged the tweet #noncoercion because part of the whole point of this is to train your capacity to notice: • your own preferences & appetites • that you can choose to do things that you want • you don't need to do "the best thing" • you don't really need any reasons at all

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And you can get out of this game any time, including in a way that's compatible with the game: just ask "would I rather do this thing (my current best candidate) or would I rather just stop doing this WYR thing?"

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You can also do meta-stuff... like if you've been putting off P for weeks: • "would I rather do P or reflect on why I haven't done P yet?" • "…P or brainstorm ways to approach P?" • "…P or explain why P is actually impossible?"

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

Often when I'm blocked on trying to *do* something, if I ask myself if I'd like to - "think about doing it" - "design how I might do it if I were to do it" - "write a proof explaining why it's impossible" ...those feel appetizing! & often lead to the thing getting done!

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I invented this approach spontaneously when a friend of mine was really stuck at one point and having trouble accessing any sense of appetite, and we ended up doing some fun things and fixing a thing she'd been putting off for awhile.

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If you'd like to experience me spontaneously inventing novel approaches to places where *you're* stuck, check out this online workshop with content, coworking, & live coaching by me and a bunch of other cool peeps. complice.co/event/plan2021…

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I was really in touch with some general cybernetics / systems thinking principles around the time I wrote this tweet. Slightly less in touch with those now, and a little concerned about that. Maybe an inspiration to get back into spaced repetition…

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Conaw One reason "don't start sth until you finish sth" is borked is highlighted by cybernetics. The principle of increasing pressure to finish seems 👍, but ppl don't realize this will also create pressure to never start anything unless you're already certain you want to finish it😬

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@visakanv Actually as I was writing that tweet it occurred to me that you might make an awesome coach for the event too! (Given your skill at advising people via DM 😛) And I think you'd have a blast doing it. I've already recruited @nosilverv this year:

Guy @nosilverv ·

your boy will be coaching here, sign up -- wat? i know, it's crazy for me too...

[long tweet — read the rest on Twitter]

quoting @Malcolm_Ocean: Tickets now available for our yearly Goal-Crafting Intensives, a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! https://t.co/DJW9pTTlJV

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@visakanv @nosilverv Coaching basically consists of hanging out in dozens of chat threads at once and helping people get unstuck on whatever level of abstraction seems relevant. Some of the coaches are familiar with the workshop video content & exercises, but lots (probably most) aren't.

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@visakanv @nosilverv Part of what's fun about it is you get to pick which coaching channels you want to respond, because there are 6-10 other coaches to answer if you don't. And you get to see how others reply!

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Retweeted @Conaw

Get yourself a man who does both

Post below something you'd like encouragement about & I will encourage you! 🔥🚀 Maybe a project you're working on, something you're learning, or any challenging situation🧗‍♂️ (Consider yourself also encouraged to encourage other people in this thread!)

Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@suru_uwu broadly, encouragement is better than discouragement

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Post below something you part of you feels you should finish but also you're kinda DONE with 😣😬🙄 and you'd like someone to say "it's okay for you to ditch that if that's what makes sense" 😮 and then I'll say "it's okay for you to ditch that if that's what makes sense" 🙃

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Replying to brainlet @magicianbrain ·

@Malcolm_Ocean striving

@magicianbrain it's okay to stop striving if that's what makes sense 🤲

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@Timber_22 @meditationstuff @noididntreadit @jondubin Aha yeah, this is good shit. Screenshotting for easy reference in-thread. The second translation (or one much like it) is one that showed up in my page-a-day zen calendar awhile ago and I pulled it out at the time. Not sure where it is now though.

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Replying to Lulie @reasonisfun ·

Wait what the actual frick, post-critrats *exist*? and *Polanyi* was one of them?!

quoting @dela3499: @tomhyde_ Have at it, mate. https://t.co/aDWg6pXfLI https://t.co/XASovpsMXY

@reasonisfun This (image excerpt) is why my book recommendation system would have people not read David Deutsch without also reading Iain McGilchrist.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@callumflack One summary I've playfully made of DD's The Beginning of Infinity is "The left hemisphere's best pitch for why & how to use your right hemisphere." (Note that it still looks at everything from primarily LH-based perspective.)

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Replying to Taina @garbledgarfield ·

@Malcolm_Ocean I would like some encouragement or permission to just do it anyway I think

@garbledgarfield Yeah, do it! Lead with your excitement. Even if you haven't done all of the background stuff, there's a reason you really want this internship!

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Retweeted @Conaw

My opinion: This is why @RoamResearch has a cult. We make certain things so fast -- citing another idea via [[page links]] or…

Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

@QiaochuYuan @Malcolm_Ocean @nosilverv I’m in

@visakanv @QiaochuYuan @nosilverv Awesome! The timing might be a bit weird for SG… the events are in pairs, on weekends, and each first-in-pair will be like 7am-noon for you, and each 2nd-in-pair will be like midnight-5am for you 🤔 But you could just come for like 10am-noon and midnight-2am or something 🤷‍♀️

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Replying to Grant Dever 🌄 @grantadever ·

Just met @jacktaddeo 🔥 Highly recommend you follow *now*, definitely the kind of guy you want to befriend asap!! H/T @visakanv for facilitating the initial connection, love this Twitter magic 🙏

@grantadever @jacktaddeo @visakanv super random but taddeo reminds me of tadow (groovy song) youtube.com/watch?v=hC8CH0…

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Replying to @jack24dd30

@jacktaddeo "the rebellion will not be available as part of your Netflix subscription"

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Retweeted @alexeyguzey

tfw you realize that the best contemporary corroboration of the great man theory comes from a single kazakhstani woman who…

Replying to Tim @coyotespike ·

@sonyasupposedly @alexeyguzey I agree re: libgen On torrents: they host whatever some random user uploads, ofc While SciHub uses some people's logins to go and fetch whatever paper someone requests, if they don't already have it So it's far more systematic - as well as radically lower friction, as you say

@coyotespike @sonyasupposedly @alexeyguzey Yeah it's a real gamechanger to have a place you can go where you expect to find "anything in this category" as opposed to just "maybe they'll have it." It's part of why people go to big stores and malls. Changes "try" to "do".

Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

"Design is not just for unlocking doors. But for creating doorways where there previously were none." -@Malcolm_Ocean

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Replying to christina bowen 🌎 @csageland ·

@visakanv @Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan @nosilverv

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@csageland @visakanv @QiaochuYuan @nosilverv Haha okay ♥️ While respecting your "no" and not wanting to pressure... wanting to make sure there's clarity on what's possible: You could also do just like 9am-noon of the 7am-noon events or something. Or just of one event! There isn't a minimum obligation.

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Replying to @oluoluoxenfree

@oluoluoxenfree Yeah, I remember you! Basically the same content, yeah, though nobody gets through every exercise so there's still lots of new stuff to do, plus the coaching is always new. You could try signing up for multiple sessions and just coming to 2-3 hours of each. Works for some 🙂

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Replying to ben ✶ @vivavolt ·

@Malcolm_Ocean that I can only be happy working for myself I think I’ll always want that, but it’s not the end of the world to work for someone else and I give myself too much mental grief over it

@vivavolt Mmmm, I feel ya! And working for someone else can make sense! Particularly… • for the short-term 🏃‍♂️ • for someone you really want to work with 🤩 • to remind yourself how much you love working for yourself 🙃 …and while you're doing it, might as well accept you're doing it!

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PSA: I almost always use the woman emoji on here 🤷‍♀️ because she's likes purple and has long hair, like me. We need to talk about underrepresentation of long-haired men in iconography. 🙅‍♀️ ...I'm not actually wanting to open that convo up in its usual form 🤦‍♀️ This tweet = parody.

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still kinda pissed that it takes *time* to do things

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pretty sure this is my left hemisphere feels that if the problem is conceptually solved (I know all the steps) then it should happen instantly

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It's a vicious lack of cycle.

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Would be nice to have a log of such hotkeys pressed so you could go revert them if you press them accidentally.

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Was it due to oversight or a lack of oversight?

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Replying to 𝗗𝗔𝗩𝗜𝗗 𝗖𝗥𝗔𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗟𝗟 @DavidCrandall_W ·

@visakanv An interesting thing about this video is that they keep referring to the “American accent” as if it is one single thing. As an American I can tell you there are MULTIPLE American accents and they do not sound the same to us.

@DavidCrandall_W @visakanv I mean same thing happens with "British accent". Canada (where I'm from) definitely has some subtle regionalisms, but aside from some Atlantic ones such as Newfie & Cape Breton accents (both Irish-influenced) most Canadians can't name any or particularly distinguish them.

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Replying to Visakan Veerasamy @visakanv ·

jump to about 8 mins for the interesting/relevant bits youtube.com/watch?v=RubFCp…

@visakanv "YouTuber accent" likely of interest to @GretchenAMcC

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Replying to Conor @Conaw ·

@Malcolm_Ocean No hotkey for this - you probably changed something in your roam/css

@Conaw oh weird af the 0.5px border-bottom disappears at 150% and 175% zoom on Brave (same engine as Chrome) y'all probably just want that to be 1px, which looks the same but doesn't have the issue—I'm guessing although maybe 0.5px looks better on retina

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Replying to Spencer Greenberg 🔍 @SpencrGreenberg ·

One of my mathematical pet peeves Example: at the Doctor's What would you say the average value is? Doctor: each case is different, it varies Okay, so there is a big standard deviation - noted. What's the average though? Doctor: no two cases are alike <math despair> :( :(

@SpencrGreenberg Whenever I'm trying to talk numbers with someone who knows more about the situation than me but claims to "have no idea" because they haven't read "How To Measure Anything", I just walk them through a confidence interval process by naming some extreme values. Cunningham's Law.

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@SpencrGreenberg recent example, verbatim from chat history — — — me: do you have a lower bound on how long it'll be til the API is available to everyone? X: nope unfortunately not me: hm, so like, it could launch next week? X: oh definitely not next week definitely not by the end of the year

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@SpencrGreenberg A little harder when seeking an average, but you can just try naming some datapoints and seeing if they're common, unusual, super-rare, or never-seen. I think @juliagalef had a thread on this at some point.

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@SpencrGreenberg @juliagalef I will also caveat that there are many important situations where the idea of averages being a useful way to understand things is fundamentally confused! Average-based reasoning was developed for charting planets, not for complex systems like humans.

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

@onnlucky @thehandbehindt1 @sentientist [Source of latter claim: book called The End of Average, whose main point is "just because you can calculate an average for a population, doesn't mean there's even a single member of the population that meaningfully resembles that average"] (applies to bodies, brains, &+)

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Replying to Andy Matuschak @andy_matuschak ·

I’ve really enjoyed 2020’s flowering of Substack writers, but I also enjoyed this criticism of the medium’s impact on thought: nintil.com/substack-milqu… One reframing: is there an adjacent model which can support book-depth thought? Or even three-month-essay-depth thought?

@andy_matuschak Shortly after @waitbutwhy got a ton of backers on @Patreon, he went into a hole for over a year to do some really long-form writing. Pretty cool experiment imho. I think he intended it to be shorter but (as things do) it ballooned into a huge project.

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Replying to Andy Matuschak @andy_matuschak ·

@headgameus I think there’s a 2x2 here of thought and format. Many books are newsletter-depth long-form, but the most important books involve much deeper thought—years of accumulated insight. Substack promotes newsletter-depth short-form. Can one create a market for years-deep short-form?

@andy_matuschak @headgameus This blog post of mine (considered by many to be my best piece of writing) represents a year of struggling with a question both conceptually and experientially. Nearly 4k words, but still a blog post. malcolmocean.com/2017/11/transc…

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@andy_matuschak @headgameus Part of the issue though is that I can only write 1-3 such posts in a given year. Maybe a collective/curated newsletter that each author gets to submit 1-3 items to per year? Hmm. Now I'm imagining a print magazine you can read by the fire with a cup of cocoa.

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Replying to @m_altcroft

@m_altcroft I had a weird phase for a year (~2019) where he was following me and I wasn't following him (he was really cynical around that time and I was paring back and trusted retweets to get me enough exposure) ended up following so I'd be a "mutual" for threadapalooza rec

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Replying to Guy @nosilverv ·

what is walking for the upper body????

@nosilverv It's like being carried around on one of those things they had for royals except it's your own lower hafl

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Replying to 🎃 Mark 👻 🟡⚪️🟣⚫️ @meditationstuff ·

What are your favorite "highly technical meditation threads"? Collecting some so someone can try to convince someone else to get onto twitter. @JasnaSeishin @selentelechia @uncatherio @tasshinfogleman @misen__ @peak_valley_pea @Malcolm_Ocean @quotidiania @yung_shishtov

@meditationstuff @JasnaSeishin @selentelechia @uncatherio @tasshinfogleman @misen__ @peak_valley_pea @quotidiania @yung_shishtov Haven't read this in depth but just came across it and figured it wanted to be here even if more "tips" than "highly technical" in the "detailed model" sense.

Friend Tasshin @tasshinfogleman ·

1 like = 1 tip for your meditation practice

quoting @vgr: Everyone should do a one-opinion-per-like personal challenge (make it 2 or 3 if you have too few followers). Live-fire stress test of your brainstorming capacity

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Replying to Ben Kuhn @benkuhn ·

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@benskuhn 😂 were you actually googling "hard problems to work on", or...?

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So here's an interesting thing. Me and many others (some with expertise) reasoned way back in March that aerosols weren't in practice sources of covid transmission. Now it seems the conclusion is they definitely are. Oops. But... why oops? Why this particular oops?

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

> “If it could easily exist as an aerosol, we would be seeing much greater levels of transmission,” said epidemiologist Michael LeVasseur I've been reasoning thusly for weeks: what we're seeing on a macro-scale doesn't match aerosol My rationalist training still comes in handy! twitter.com/HelenBranswell…

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Well, implicitly, it seems like "airborne" carries connotations that are more specific than just "does ever spread by aerosol". It pulls up the image of measles, which has an R₀ of like 15. This image, from February, illustrates the question being posed here.

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And it seems, awkwardly, that the answer didn't fall neatly into the natural categories that were available, so... we missed it. I think this is a huge piece of "why oops". Modus tollens applied imprecisely: "not as contagious as measles ⇒ not airborne" twitter.com/jpsalvesen/sta…

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On a different level, the initial mask shortage fiasco also probably muddied waters. If cloth masks mostly block droplets but not aerosol (which I gather is the case) then they're way more useful in a world where aerosol transmission is mostly not a factor. Motivated reasoning?

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figuring @diviacaroline & @WilliamAEden would appreciate this, as I remember talking about this stuff with them at the time

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Replying to QC @QiaochuYuan ·

@Malcolm_Ocean i also remember that this point was basically impossible to communicate at scale in the media

@QiaochuYuan oh shit those are 2 different things? I mean I guess they are in the sense that they're on different levels of abstraction

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Retweeted @joyurge

this is good shit, y'all. I've attended 4 times in 3 years. It's helped me & others find our communities, keep dreams in motio…

Replying to semi fungible individual @CyrusOfHearts ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Wow that juice to squeeze ratio, bro

@CyrusOfHearts 😂

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Retweeted @captain_mrs

Got nerdsniped, drew the complement to monk's diagram

monk @mechanical_monk ·

my brain has ordered me to draw this, wat mean

Replying to Michael Nielsen @michael_nielsen ·

Best religious texts? I've just reread the Sermon on the Mount and the Book of Job, and been reminded how remarkable they are. Other recommendations? From any tradition. Short is better - I'm much more likely to read (or reread) a 2 page doc than a thousand page text.

@michael_nielsen I got a lot of out @kenmcleod's exposition of his translation of the Three Lines That Hit The Nail On The Head from Tibetan Buddhism. tricycle.org/magazine/trans…

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@sagar__dubey @xuenay Hmm like coworking in 2 senses: - the physical aspect, with other people in Helsinki - the working-on-a-project-with-other-people-aspect, with people around the world (who would eg be able to see if Kaj didn't do anything for a month) Satisfying those separately rather together!

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Huh, bit of history I didn't know! (1950s) > Egyptian government objected to Canadian peacekeeping forces on the grounds that the Canadian flag (the Red Ensign 👇) contained the same symbol (the Union Flag) also used as a flag by the United Kingdom, one of the belligerents (!)

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ @Malcolm_Ocean ·

As a Canadian literally swimming in literal maple leaves right now (okay, 2mins ago) I am struck by the significance of our national symbol being one that we HAVE in such absurd abundance. 🍁🇨🇦

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Exciting to see people building & testing #TwitterReplacement ideas! twitter.com/sarah_cone/sta…

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Replying to @sarah_cone

@sarah_cone @suavelambi Interesting! Reminds me of a comment that Daniel Schmachtenberger makes in here about the incredible power of sexual selection on memes (ie behaviors). I forget how he phrases it but something about rapid change being possible if eg women say "we want x" youtube.com/watch?v=hKvVdG…

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Retweeted @nntaleb

Artisanal drug dealers get arrested & get long jail sentences. Legal drug dealers kill at an industrial scale, with impunity.…

This is some really subtle fuckery. Try some experiments like measuring whether the circles move and covering the arrows. I *think* this is sorta the visual equivalent of a shepard tone, though I only have a half-guess as to how they're pulling it off.

critter @BecomingCritter ·

what do y'all think about this

[video]

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me to @SarahAMcManus, while packing: "...why doesn't my ukulele fit inside my guitar like a russian doll?" 🤔

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Thread · Source and helpers vs. leader and follower metaphors · 5 of 7 tweets

Replying to sunshine ☀️ revival @SeanMombo ·

In the context of Leader vs Follower — What is the least negatively connotated word for "follower"

@SeanMombo I don't think there is a single "context of Leader vs Follower". I've recently been digging Peter Koenig's "Source" model, where a source doesn't have followers but helpers (ppl helping realize their vision). I might've used "channeler" or something to extend "source" metaphor 🤔

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@SeanMombo Great summary of that model on workwithsource.com I've seen lots of people try to adopt this model and end up talking about "source and follower" though, which is a huge type error in my opinion. Like referring to your kid as an employee.

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@SeanMombo Taking the "leader & follower" metaphor seriously, one might reanimate it as "trailblazer" and "signposter" or something. Like one who finds a new route and another who makes it more easy to traverse for future. Idk.

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@SeanMombo I've led myself to an odd take here: perhaps in this sense a "thought leader" is arguably more legitimately doing *leadership* than a captain of a team or head of a company. The thought leader has new thoughts before other people have them, and others follow afterwards.

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@SeanMombo Whereas the head of a company isn't *leading* people anywhere in the metaphorical sense. Although I guess in the sense of having a vision first, though in some sense that's a subcase of thought leadership 😆

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

@spiral_virus This is incredibly astute. I can’t believe I haven’t seen more on this Emotions developed in part to be visible, as a costly signal of our state or co-entrainment mechanism What happens when we text? No need to actually laugh out loud . . yet something happens Way understudied

@AskYatharth @spiral_virus I was thinking yesterday about how "lol" is its own thing that exists fully in the silent realm, & that that's a necessary role and contrasting that with an utterance like "I burst out laughing when I read that" which explicitly imports my situated physicality into the text

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Thread · Source and helpers vs. leader and follower metaphors · 2 of 7 tweets

@SeanMombo I think it's important to explicitly differentiate: - Source of vision - role model - mentor - manager/director - star performer (vs supporting actor / backup singer) & many more

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@SeanMombo @CoryWong has a great clip about being a sideman, and he explicitly talks about vision but also kind of about the frontman, so that's the first & last of the bullets in the previous tweet. Those two could (in music or other contexts) be separate though. youtube.com/watch?v=Swh4uZ…

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Replying to thoughtless leader @tylerdurdy ·

@visakanv @mattgoldenberg How have you responded to everything always?

@tylerdurdy @visakanv @mattgoldenberg uhhh probably "do 100 responses" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

Are there any good ways to internalize mind-body nondualism without having to get enlightened? Asking for a friend

@mattgoldenberg Most helpful thing for me here has been grokking what Gregory Bateson means by "Mind". Tough though because he's hard to read. So for this I'd recommend: • Bateson chapter of Uncommon Wisdom by Fritjof Capra • An Ecology of Mind docu by @NoraBateson • Mutual Causality by Macy

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Are there any good ways to internalize mind-body nondualism without having to get enlightened? Asking for a friend

Replying to @RonnyBloom

@RonnyBloom try covering one of the circles in this one twitter.com/RogueDunderhea…

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I like @CompliceGoals When I set to-do lists they get clogged up with stuff I thought was important 3 months ago. Com…

Found myself thinking about 2 meanings of "pure": One is like "has one molecule": pure sugar. Usually refined from nature. Another is "has one ingredient": pure honey 🍯. "Natural", no additives, but complex constituents.

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tfw you search "speed test" and 2mins later the search results still haven't arrived

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Replying to Trinley Goldenberg @mattgoldenberg ·

@Malcolm_Ocean Interesting, I think of both of them as meaning "doesn't contain anything else."

@mattgoldenberg I think that is the more general meaning, it's just interesting because the connotations are very different because pure molecule is usually quite processed whereas pure ingredient is somewhat unprocessed.

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Replying to yatharth ༺༒༻ @AskYatharth ·

Objection in my DMs: “I can’t just choose to love myself!” 🤷 Let’s talk.

quoting @AskYatharth: 💀 societal broke: drill into kids: they better work hard → to be “good” 🦄 liberal woke: tell traumatised adults they have “inherent worth” → so they can be loved ✨ meaningness bespoke: dismantle learned emotional schemas to love yourself because you f’ing want to

@AskYatharth Mm I like this but it also seems potentially a bit counteractive in the coherence therapy sense.

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