@aaronzlewis I was thinking about this earlier today! Malcolm says, from his own account, as if he didn't just tweet this idea out from AZL's account 😉
October 2020
@nosilverv @visakanv @metaLulie Initially read "Buying out" here not as like "exiting the narratives" but "Buying someone else out of their narrative" which is an interesting way to think about it too.
Replying to @magghu
@magghu You might dig this essay (mis)Translating the Buddha, which does a deep dive into a lot of these Pali translation confusions (many of which involved a detour through Sanskrit) docs.google.com/document/d/10q…
Replying to @liminal_warmth
@liminal_warmth I know this feel. Most of @CompliceGoals' users over the years have come from building integrations with other apps or communities, plus general word of mouth. Probably lots of upside possible if I wanted to do more sales/marketing, but I don't.
@mattgoldenberg @DRMacIver @fvathynevgl @reasonisfun @m_ashcroft In particular, this chapter of The Guru Papers talks explicitly about the kind of phenomenon you describe here, where ceasing to try hard produces sloth rather than spacious play.
@SarahAMcManus @meditationstuff Likewise interested in this! 👂
solid #Twiptych t.co/32AS7QGmGh
@browserdotsys This article has a theory, which it calls the ‘Morituri Nolumus Mori’ effect, which means 'We who are about to die don't want to', and prevents the worst outcomes while failing to achieve positive outcomes. lesswrong.com/posts/EgdHK523…
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Love watching these kinds videos of how people make things Particularly enjoy the part of this one where Kygo maps vocal c…
@kevinakwok You might also like Song Exploder! I really liked this one of one of my favorite @ISO50 songs. A bit longer & more in-depth. Actual episode starts like 1m20 in. songexploder.net/tycho
@kevinakwok Oh and you might dig my ScatterVox playlists, which features dozens of songs I like that (one way or another) have vocals chopped up beyond recognition. (Some are otherwise instrumental, others have lots of lyrics too.) music.youtube.com/playlist?list=…
I've been thinking about this inward idea for a day or two. Feeling like my attention is getting drawn into looking at politics & current events in ways that are not serving me in any particular way. Which is not to say there mightn't be leverage points there, but yeah. Hm. twitter.com/z3nblack/statu…
@vgr @threadreaderapp unroll
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@Elodes12 Your bit on the importance of [feeling that your [meta]plan will work] reminds me of this phrase that came to me last year when I asked myself what underlying emotional message I wanted people to experience when they used complice.co
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An odd mix of emotions regarding the passing of James P Carse. Not just sad, but some sort of mirth, too. A cosmic glint, p…
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@drjasonfox Mmmmm this resonates 💞 I spent a few minutes deciding whether to include this 🙃 emoji in my tweet below, and in the end felt really good about doing so.
🦊@drjasonfox says it well! twitter.com/drjasonfox/sta…
Thread · Culturally constructed emotions and inventing new emotional language
Had heard about @LFeldmanBarrett's work before; this article piqued my interest on a different level hearing how's affected her own speech: > instead of saying “I’m scared,” she blurted out: “I’m experiencing high arousal from uncertainty.” theguardian.com/books/2020/sep…
This assessment—that emotions are culturally constructed—seems to have a sort of trivially true meaning, which I think I'd already integrated. It also implies something much bolder: the capacity to consciously construct entirely new emotions as part of culture change 😮
This is, as I see it, part of what Barrett is doing in the excerpt quoted above. This could seem like just deconstruction, which is also accurate, but I think it's still constructive, because by using the phrase "high arousal from uncertainty", in the moment, it gains meaning.
On a different level, I think the modern meme environment does this unconsciously already, just... less verbally. But having a specific image/gif/emoji handle for a feeling *is* different than just having associated gestures. I think sometimes I *feel* nathan_fillion.gif
This is like how sign language differs from pantomime—the former has actual signs, with precise shared meanings. It's symbolic, rather than directly trying to evoke something. The gif itself kind of does both, but "nathan_fillion.gif" is a sign (to those in the know).
There's a lot of richness in the historical feelings, and I think it's really important not to disown the meaning that they hold. I discovered when I learned Bio-Emotive from @DougTataryn that I had repressed all sorts of feelings that consciously I thought didn't make sense.
This included feelings where I had reasons for saying they didn't make sense (such as "shame" or "worthlessness") as well as just feelings where implicitly I was constructing my life in ways seemingly incompatible with those feelings (such as "sadness" or "panic")
When I've facilitated the Bio-Emotive NEDERA process for ppl who grew up speaking a different language, they've often found phrases that don't resonate nearly as much in English as they do in the natural language of their younger selves whose memories they're working with.
This is entirely compatible with Barrett's top-level claim that emotions are culturally constructed—in fact it supports it greatly—but it suggests to me that we might want to take great care when deliberately reframing our emotions. Meanings are sacred, &
This has me a bit concerned about the account of how Barrett is working with her daughter in this excerpt from the article. The sigh and the "are you happy?" reveal a tension from attempted overwriting. (This still seems better than most parenting, tho that's not saying much.)
For reframes that support integrity, try on the new phrasing gently: "Hmm, I feel uncertainty & high arousal" Allow yourself to say "No, I feel ANXIOUS!" You don't get to tell others how they feel or what it's okay to feel. Your intellect doesn't get to tell *you* how you feel.
Neuroplasticity is a thing—the brain can change, and retain changes. So I'm bullish (is that a feeling? hm🤔) about reculturing with a better feeling-toolkit. A feelkit. I think that's both worthwhile & possible. *And* it requires upgrading the existing one, not overwriting it.
In this case, that means bringing your old words & meanings into dialogue with new concepts, whether those are the neuroscience concepts that Barrett promotes, or concepts from something like Buddhism. And both have lots to offer, which is exciting!
eg I've been reading Spectrum of Ecstasy: The Five Wisdom Emotions of Vajrayana Buddhism, and it is pointing at how certain contracted feelings are clouded expressions of certain expansive feelings, eg anger & clarity. Learning this ontology requires *feeling* its truth.
And in the meantime, and always, it is okay to feel exactly how you feel right now, and to name that feeling however it wants to be named.
Latest 🤯 video by Daniel Schmachtenberger, which talks in depth about memetic warfare and the information commons, then shares a project he's working on to create a source of news & epistemic education. If The Social Dilemma concerns you, check this out: youtu.be/0v5RiMdSqwk
@avagadasa Yeah, there's a need to differentiate between: - world as you experience it - creating shared narrative & situational assessment If your system experiences a feeling of abandonment & that word resonates, important to validate that internally. Not usually helpful interpersonally.
@mattgoldenberg @LFeldmanBarrett Mmm, appreciating you sharing this 🙏 Curious what gave you that sense initially! I'm re-reading this here and not feeling clear what it would be (unless you just mean my overall resonance with what Barrett is saying).
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@selentelechia List, meet list:
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@NormanChella @m_ashcroft "repiphany" sounds like a word for that thing when you have a brilliant insight and go to write it down somewhere only to realize you've already had it before
Novel voting system idea 💡 Ranked choice plus in order to win the winner needs >67% of people to have actually ranked them at all. Any candidate acceptable to less than ⅓ of population simply disqualified. No more alienating half the population while riling up your base.
Replying to @keendisregard
@KeenDisregard Had this idea this morning:
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@wgalyean Sort of depends what "cheaper" means unfortunately, but I'm assuming you mean "with which loan will you end up paying less total $", ignoring discount rates on money completely.
@jack_meditates I was thinking about this the other day and am considering tweeting something to the effect of "what do you need help with that I might be able to help with?" because I often find it energizing to help people with stuff.
@m_ashcroft metaeuphoria
@GRIFTGURU The late James P. Carse said this well:
@aaronzlewis here's another! these mushrooms like to form right angles on the trees they're on, inasmuch as the trees usually grow vertically and the mushroom bottoms are horizontal
@Morphenius Well, subject to who you're following you can evade the algorithm altogether by going to realtwitter.com which just redirects to a search for "tweets by ppl I follow sorted by latest" Then there's making twitter lists, which could be a way to collect a range of views.
@St_Rev this one though… cc @justsaysinmice
@umbersorrow uhmmm hi. 😏
Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman
The predominant, authoritarian-empiricist versions of this discourse focus on identity groups rather than perspectives a…
@ben_r_hoffman Really well put, Ben. The memes are defending other memes, not the people themselves.
@BlackForestBoi It seems to me that if this happens, things have gone horribly wrong: the politicians & media aren't serving ppl. Snarky idea: all of the candidates & debate hosts get sentenced to 2 years community service and election is re-run with all new candidates & debate hosts.
@BlackForestBoi As stated, this is not a real suggestion, to be clear; the incentives would go some weird-ass sideways direction that we can't even guess. But it points at something important.
@BlackForestBoi I agree with your point tho—this is the obvious issue with such a system: it explicitly allows for a possible outcome of "nobody is elected". OT1H, if all of the candidates are shit, this seems like the appropriate result! 💩 OTOH, someone needs to run the govt in meantime 😬
@BlackForestBoi This could be a situation where… say this were instituted for the US Presidency, and this result happened (which it probably would this year 😔). Succession etc would give the seat to the Speaker of the House, who presumably still exists. Not ideal, but vaguely reasonable.
@BlackForestBoi To be clear, I'm not suggesting that candidates who don't get 66% minimum acceptance would always get this sentence, but if *nobody* does then this is actually everybody's responsibility because it means that they probably spent too much time slinging mud rather than real talk.
@BlackForestBoi Which inspires me to think that there could actually also be some other red flag situation that occurs if only one candidate gets above 50% approval rating, as it probably means they've been playing dirty and making their opponent seem evil. (Am I rn? 🤔)
@TomLisankie @Conaw Also it's not the same thing but I found myself thinking you might appreciate this:
@RobertHaisfield It's nuts. Daniel Schmachtenberger is working on creating a nonprofit news outlet that analyzes and synthesizes a wide range of perspectives, steelmanning & critiquing and trying to sort out what's known/unknown, accessible yet deep. Cool talk about it:
@BlackForestBoi Agreed. Pulling the text onto twitter: > "If you feel a combination of outrage/scared, and very certain with a strong enemy hypothesis orientation, you've likely be captured by somebody's narrative warfare and you're thinking its your own thinking. 1/2
@BlackForestBoi > That will, even if you win at a local battle, whatever tech you use to win. Social tech, info tech. The other side will reverse engineer and come back. You're just escalating an arms race and not moving toward shared sensemaking and coordination." — Daniel Schmachtenberger 2/2
@acesounderglass Awhile ago I thought of a distinction like: Surprise is if a 1-1000 random number generator outputs some specific number you guess beforehand. Confusion is if the random number generator doesn't output a number at all. The phrasing still feels off but there's something there.
@TrungTPhan @BlackForestBoi Yeah it's not obvious to me that this isn't worse than the existing incentives. The main issue here is that there are too many people in various media roles to hold them all responsible, and punishment doesn't really work well anyway (barely at all for psychopaths actually).
@wgalyean Oh huh! That feels to me to be a different question entirely—has more to do with whether you have a 1yr use for the money or a 2yr use, or something like that.
@Human__Age @DougTataryn At a high level, what I would say is: 1. the original triune brain model is clearly oversimplified 2. it's really important to remember that our limbic and hindbrains are completely up to date, not static reptile modules from 1M yrs ago. Just as evolved as prefrontal cortex.
@robertskmiles @corywong Totally. They fucking GET it. Have you watched the Madison Square Garden concert yet? Fucking 💯 youtube.com/watch?v=rv4wf7…
@BlackForestBoi Hm? Not sure I understand what you're saying. If it's "making a higher bar for getting elected while allowing the existingly elected people to stay in power seems autocratic" then I'm with you! Maybe: Step 1: ranked voting Step 2: minimum 50% acceptance Step 3: increase
@BlackForestBoi Not that anything we're discussing here is remotely close to what seems possible in terms of reforms to existing systems.
@Neats29 You should always phrase things as first person experience rather than as "you should do this". 😉…contrast with… I usually tend to phrase things as being about my own experience rather than prescriptively, and I find that helps.
@Neats29 Honestly a lot of the time I just aim for "enthusiastically tell someone about something that will also excite them". That's not advice at all. I didn't really know what Conor would do with seeing VV & GC, I just guessed he'd be interested and find it valuable.
@Human__Age @DougTataryn 3. "Limbic language", experientially, is CLEARLY a thing. Whether it maps exactly onto limbic system matters but what else would it map onto? LL = 1st person/embodied, present tense, usually relatively simple feeling words, evoking (vs discussing reasonably at arm's length)
@_StevenFan Say more? Constructivism taking over affective neurosci? I think issue here is failure to disambiguate between the raw circuits which don't exactly have a "meaning", and all other feelings, which have an interpretive element, and are thus constructed.
@_StevenFan @DougTataryn does a great rough job on this front by disambiguating feelings vs emotions: feelings = everything from "worthless" to "alone" to "connected" to "betrayed" emotions = raw bio circuits, in Doug's model 😀☹️😡😨 but could include Panksepp 🧐😏😱 etc plus maybe 🤢😮
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia @dschorno > trilogy of simulations about cognitive evolution, past and future, and the ecological conditions that shape it. Each simulation is centered on the life of an "emissary" who is caught between unraveling old realities and emerging weird ones. Well shiiit. Expensive book though.
@selentelechia @dschorno @Morphenius interesting maybe-very-hemisphere-related book also relates to Kuhn's Paradigm Shifts thing amazon.ca/Ian-Cheng-Emis…
we are a way for the cosmos to grieve itself
@visakanv Making slow but steady progress on a song I've been working on for like 6mo, gradually writing new verses. Song is called "I Will Be In Love" and it's inspired by a Ram Dass quote talking about love as a place (inside oneself).
@visakanv @AngularOcean @m_ashcroft what do you search to get that GIF? or do you have it downloaded? I will use this one.
@the_aiju I grew up in a 1400 person town in 🇨🇦 & walked to school almost always since a young age, and would sometimes be out for hours. My parents usually... probably... knew where I was? I forget exactly, maybe there was a thing of telling them where I was going or who with. But—chill.
@BlackForestBoi Would be cool if the memex share link generated an image of the text
@BlackForestBoi @RobertHaisfield Yeah! And great point re kicking off revolution. Yeah, similar to how other apps are getting on the backlink train, this might force news outlets that *want* to be at least remotely nonpartisan to up their game.
@umbersorrow so! I found this quite thrilling, as you maybe can tell and I'm finding myself kinda not sure what to do with that! maybe nothing in particular. but wanted you to know it gave me chest-flutters 🦋😮 it appeals to something deep in me. something chaotic and sacred.
@JoelChan86 @RobertHaisfield @RoamResearch For me it's mostly shown up as very intertwingled concepts that all want to reference each other. Roam is helping these get gradually fleshed out in parallel, without regard to order. But this has its own conceptual challenges, for reading order etc.
Ah man very cool to come across this again and be like "yo I have a roamblog now!" It's full of drafts. Theoretically some might ever reach my actual blog, but it's been a year and so far not yet haha. (intertwingled.blog)
@tessafyi this would be great Q for introspection month
Oh here's another one, similar vibe:
@lisatomic5 @humansarerobots @liminal_warmth eyyy
@Jeanvaljean689 Huh, I hadn't consciously disambiguated these exactly. Something to it though for sure. Ohhh, yeah, a next action situates you in relation to the action, whereas a todo kinda doesn't. Was feeling into a similar thing here:
@theorangealt Wow, what a month!
Replying to @harmonylion1
@harmonylion1 Whoa, cool! If you haven't seen this talk, it's definitely relevant to what you're doing. He's taking a very different approach to the solution; I mostly think you'll appreciate his articulation of the issues.
"countries don't want to be 1st to institute carbon taxes because they don't want to disadvantage themselves compared to other countries" Seems to me like if we assume every country must do this eventually (if not we're fucked) then headstart means low-carbon tech advantage
sorta like how Canada is getting a wild headstart on the global cannabis production industry from being first big country to legalize I know this is very different for 5+ reasons, but still, something interesting here
wowwww found this amazing tumblr full of startups being like "🤩 wow we got acquired how exciting we'll be able to do so much" then 1-3y later being like "😬 heh, sooo this is the end of our original product sry bye it wasn't a fit with BigCorp" …🤮 ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com
@anderssandberg @MatjazLeonardis @DavidDeutschOxf LEGO_Nimitz_class_carrier.jpg
@eriktorenberg You might appreciate this meme that was going around awhile back of peoples' first jobs. Lots of random stuff there. (In my case I didn't jump straight from those to self-employment though—I had 3 tech internships before starting complice.co)
#ShowerThought Is there literally a single American who feels stoked about both main presidential candidates? Like "man, this is a tough choice between two great options." (I guess uhhh people who actively self-identify as wanting to watch the world burn don't count.)
datomic/datalog freaks me out how it is able to just resolve any set of constraints you put in Part of me is legit slightly afraid might be able to factor primes in polynomial time 😬
I'm hanging out in the Roam Colosseum coworking room today while hacking on a @RoamResearch+@CompliceGoals integration. Come do pomodoros with me! 🍅 #roamcult Next pomo starts in 1 minute! Jump off twitter onto 👇 complice.co/room/roam
TIL "gloaming" is another word for "dusk". And kinda Scottish, which I kinda did know because I know all the words to The Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond. I just didn't know what the word meant! 🏴 Well. This'll be the last time I ever use the word "dusk".
@AnonaGotta I know but like, surely there has ever been a US presidential election where someone (maybe even several people) thought "both of these candidates will lead our country in a great direction"
@anirudhbadri I mean atm a lot of it is even just cosmetic stuff, like they don't naturally generate shareable urls with nice preview images (or hell, even proper *page titles* on share). For Twitter I hack that by making a quoteable tweet that functions as the share:
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia Appreciating how my post is helping you think about this, especially since it's so lacking in answers! But that's I guess exactly the thing: your art here also seems like a powerful offering to the world, not as an answer but sharing in the experience of holding the question.
Best relatively obscure rap? My money's on Get Involved by Chali 2na, on top of this sick electrofunk track by The Funk Hunters & Defunk. Challenging not just in speed+complexity but also pitch: I've sung a lot of bass parts and this is LOW. youtube.com/watch?v=IVtTNH…
@GeniesLoki A couple experiences when I was like 18-20 (I looked a bit older) of older women hitting on me in ways that I found slightly flattering at the time but also *did not want*. This is maybe slightly different than the thing you were asking about but seemed relevant.
@GeniesLoki Reading other posts... also a memory of someone who was sort of my ex and we were also housemates, just randomly slapping my ass in the kitchen one day. Would have been fun if we hadn't been on somewhat awkward terms already, but was just weird.
@GeniesLoki Also: flirting & making out with a friend-of-friend at a club on new years then "going back to her place"—ambiguous bc friend group was intended to meet back there. Her room… she wanted to have sex, I awkwardly didn't but didn't know how to say, she was sad but didn't pressure!
@GeniesLoki Double-awkwardly, due to a weird confluence of circumstances, while there ordinarily would have been other sleeping arrangements possible, a friend had heard a guy get shot that night while working security, so given his sleep needs… long story short I ended up bunking with her.
Retweeted @kerobinso
Wow, great point about how results could be reported as the election ends Nov 3 & votes are counted: from redditors svenlid…
@benskuhn Yeah, phrases like "as you may already know" can give more space here too for the case where they do. Ultimately lots of tone is involved with these things too, and you can't 100% keep people from getting hooked into insecurities, though it's worth trying while it feels good to.
@benskuhn Huh! This is a great example of a difference between intention & outcome—you say these tics imply this person is low-status but in some ways they actually came from an intention to imply they were high-status!
Retweeted @visakanv
Little things like “you hesitated for a moment there, why?” can unearth things you wont believe But you have to do it in a…
Oh and I didn't even mention this but the content of the lyrics are… pretty prosocial! A bit of like "I am very cool", which you've gotta have in your rap. But then the rest of it seems to mostly be broadly anticorruption—Get Involved.
@ssica3003 interested! (though seeing you're saying main book, which I've already read. I could start a separate Eggplant group I guess… 🍆)
I've started noticing that when I do reviews, eg a weekly review or atm a Q3 review, I often find myself not just reflecting but also taking certain small actions to set things in motion, particularly contacting people, eg to propose a project. Anyone else experience this?
Without looking it up, if you were to open a paper book, do you know which side would be even-numbered pages and which odd?
@grahamsrowe Mmm. I'm talking about not just generating actions but in some sense *doing* them during the review. Making those projects be naturally downhill, so there's little need for further intending. (A good next-action system does this, but those are rare) malcolmocean.com/2016/06/you-fl…
Retweeted @ben_r_hoffman
Chain, chain, chain (Chain, chain, chain) Chain of tweets For fifty tweets I answered you on main But I found out I'm j…
Retweeted @SarahAMcManus
finger pointing at the moon -- now animated! 😁 #BuddhistShitposting
Retweeted @nickcammarata
Heuristic for if you have self-love (that I’ve seen a bunch of people reach!): walking around alone feels kind of like w…
Mmm this thread, particularly this tweet, is helping me to appreciate Core Transformation more. Taking this on also shifts my sense of what sort of thing to expect from a core state! I feel like there might be a tweak to the CT script that could help make this clear too 🤔💭
@Jeanvaljean689 #3 reminds me of wishing I had an app where I could say "if I'm ever flying to Place, remind me about ThingToDoOrVisit" I think Roam could effectively do that by just like, if I make a page for the city I'm going to, and check the mentions while planning... bam.
Does the new @WordPress block editor have a custom block type for like "note to self"; something that's visible in the editor but not on the published post? That would be great. In HTML I would ofc use <!-- --> for this.
*bong rip* what if… the pronoun revolution that we need is… a zeroth-person pronoun for parts of your personality…? 𝘄𝗲 : 𝗜 :: 𝗜 : ___ hit me with your best ideas
Thread · Feedback on Antar: avatars, IFS, and parts-work precedents · 6 of 9 tweets
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app? I like the premise. Downloaded it and had a brief look tonight. First thought was "I hate all of these avatar faces". Also it kept putting a mask or hat back on when I made an unrelated change. No avatar (just color) would be way better.
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app (Linked that tweet since it came to me when I was trying to dialogue with a part, not in Antar but in my journal) In Antar I didn't get to making any parts because I feared that would have subjected me to another godawful avatar experience. App has potential; this = raw feels.
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app Ummm also idk what kind of research you've done but definitely check out Dick Schwartz's work on Internal Family Systems if you haven't already, plus umm this old blog by a friend of mine who made a bunch of self-facets. sovereignsblog.tumblr.com
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app Here's the post where they announce it and introduce the cast: agentyduck.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-pe…
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app I might as well link to a similar experiment I did from around the same time; I also did some journally dialoguing between the parts for the next month or two, but not nearly as extensively as my friend. malcolmocean.com/2016/04/introd…
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app There was also a guy who did a really wild experiment with this years back, but I forget the link. It was super wild though - each character had to sign in and out, and they each had a system for getting points while in their mode - so probably not central to your research.
Just typo'd this again, when I meant to just type I Am A Strange Loop (Hofstadter's book) which is probably what happened last time too.
Thread · Feedback on Antar: avatars, IFS, and parts-work precedents · 3 of 9 tweets
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app Oh and obviously if you haven't looked at @MyReplika you'll want to. Plus chapter 16 of I am a Strange Loop by Hofstadter, which is a deep dive on this phenomenon 👇 (you don't need to have read the rest of the book)
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app @MyReplika Okay, that's my braindump of relevant things that I think anyone seriously making a go at building the app you're building would want to have at least a passing familiarity with (you can decide which ones to dig deeper into). Hope this is indeed helpful! I enjoyed it.
@snarayan @jack_meditates @antar_app @MyReplika And lmk when I can use Antar without being disturbed by the avatars. Again, simply removing them altogether and/or allowing me to insert images— —hell, just use an emoji-picker. I can see value in having avatars as well, but I think it's a distraction at this phase.
When you get to know someone well, you are essentially making an elegant little avatar of them, who gets to play with the virtual mini-universe that is your mind.
Replying to @mclegibilist
@whomademecrispy "this part is trying to insist that I'm completely powerless and blameless, because [__] really don't want me to feel blamed" (this is actually the sentence I was typing at the point when I necessitated the mother of this invention… the proverbial bong, if you will)
@whomademecrispy umm… fuck I'm sleepy. it's 3:30am and I've been going to bed much earlier lately ah right, yeah, thing I wanted to add: I initially started typing "this part is trying to insist that 𝘸𝘦'𝘳𝘦" and then I was like "actually I want to keep being 'I', not 'we', here"
Replying to @nwilliams030
@TylerAlterman Forwarded to a French friend of mine and she was like "They might need to contact a real estate agency to do the research for them. Real estate agencies are usually the way to go in france to find houses & apartments, especially when the research is so specific." fwiw.
@kokogiac ahh true, yeah. I kinda knew this when I was typing but then I got confused. I think because I was then confused about whether you could add up 4 half-person perspectives to get a second person perspective. ...fuck now I'm confused again.
Retweeted @polyaletheia
I've said this before, but, we have a long tradition of knocking down useless-seeming fences. If Chestertonian types want…
@WaterUndersea @WilliamAEden idk if your reminder system worked in some invisible-to-me way but in any case I'm here at the 4 month mark
@WaterUndersea @WilliamAEden I originally meant "I'm here to remind you, coincidentally" I realize that trippily my sentence could also read as "somehow your reminder system called me here" which... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@AskYatharth how does yoi feel about that? (wait, now we need a fractional second person pronoun. y'all : you :: you : __)
when you're on an exponential, it always looks like you're about to take off
and that's actually an accurate impression! exponential has fractal self-similarity—can only see change relative to context
Retweeted @meditationstuff
if you don't have total compassion for others you won't be able to have total compassion for yourself. if you don't h…
Had a spare pair of speakers and a headphone splitter and now my laptop has 4 legit speakers and turns out it is *actually better* than 2! 🐭 13mm tweeter on edifier 🐦 19mm tweeter on mackie 🐶 76mm woofer on mackie 🐺 102mm woofer on edifier (= ½", ¾", 3", 4")
When I first got the mackies, I almost didn't want to throw out my old ~$20 ($3 second hand) desktop speakers with just a single ~50mm (~2") driver, because they did add something to the midtones that was missing from the mackies. Guessing such an addition'd still help here too.
Nice ($100-200) speakers are definitely a worthwhile quality of life upgrade if you have the cash. When I first got these I revisited some favorite electronica albums (notably @BT) and was like "holy shit there are textures here that I was completely missing before"
Replying to @nickcammarata
@nickcammarata ❤️ Potent stuff. your imagery here, in context, reminds me of the 2012 cover of Kamal Ravikant's Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It
@nickcammarata I answered "body+face" since it was closest, but I think it's important to note that I was probably activating my motor cortex & proprioceptive neurons almost entirely, and very little visual cortex. My sense of myself was a sense of embodied hereness.
@nickcammarata Ooh, as a low-neurotic high-extrovert, this is useful information.
Retweeted @J_Salzer
My friend Bobby just casually said “if art is how we decorate space, music is how we decorate time” and I was like hold up ho…
Replying to @WetSackOfFarts
@trenteatspeople @SusieusMaximus @J_Salzer I think it's a different kind of dope coming from "a dude on Twitter's friend Bobby", sort of like how you can appreciate a heavy metal cover of a song you love while still preferring the original. It's just a different genre of the quote!
sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me as a result, we've limited some of your account features
Thread · Misattributed quotes as cover versions, and "attribution art" · 5 of 6 tweets
Me in defense of misattributed quotes as being like as cover versions of songs—themselves valuable for what they evoke.
The standard version of this being done consciously is not a cover but a parody:
But it's like, there's actually kind of an art form here; the issue is that in order to really properly evoke it, you essentially have to lie/bullshit.
I guess that's not true if the quote is sufficiently famous. And then you can do all sorts of other stuff with it too, actually, beyond creatively misattributing it…
Attribution Art. Hit QT on this tweet, then in the body of your tweet, tweet out a quote (could be famous or something you or your friend said) with it attributed to someone else (could be someone you know, a friend on twitter, or a famous person) to play with the effect.
@trenteatspeople @SusieusMaximus @J_Salzer Kind of like how I didn't actually rip a bong before tweeting this 👇 —bong rip is a tweet genre. So is "my friend casually dropped this mindblowing comment on me"
@trenteatspeople @SusieusMaximus @J_Salzer Anyway, this has inspired me to make a thread suggesting people misattribute quotes on purpose as a form of art.
"Every day I discover more and more beautiful things. It's enough to drive one mad. I have such a desire to do everything, my head is bursting with it." — @visakanv .
@katarinag @sashachapin Just came across this and am curious how the experiment went / is going! (My curiosity is more than idle; I've been recently thinking about the power of coaching relationships as part of friendships & communities, and idk the context here but this seems relevant.)
@coponder You might be interested in DSchmacht's Consilience Project; aimed at fixing this.
@coponder while scrolling down your user page, came across this tweet! how's it going so far? 🧡
@coponder You (& @ben_r_hoffman) may appreciate @CloneOfSnow Combinatoric meme mashups.
@ciphergoth @coponder @CloneOfSnow A moment of silence. We could clone the snow we wish to see in the world! But yeah, it was not a sloppy endeavor, by any means.
@coponder Mmm, reminds me of when I pondered the question "what do I want the underlying message to be that people receive from the Complice app?" QT below is what arose for me at the time, but your tweet could also be an answer!
Creating software is doubly-advantageous. First, it's just a super fucking useful skill. Second, since almost all of the tools I use are software, knowing how it's created helps me understand why it functions (or dysfunctions) the way that it does, and to guess hidden features.
@m_ashcroft Goes way back… - HTML via neopets tutorial age 12 - ActionScript (Flash) making game age 13 - CSS & JavaScript & PHP as indie web dev age 14 - Java in highschool CS class - C++ & datastructures in uni - Android as software intern - various side projects & internships - COMPLICE
@m_ashcroft In basically all of these cases, I was always building something, and I highly recommend that as a way to learn.
@m_ashcroft On which note, I'm serious when I say complice.co is a major item on that list. I would say a majority of my software engineering training came from Complice, though I definitely didn't *not* know how to code when I started.
@SarahAMcManus that's why I'm a tantrapreneur
@visakanv do what @fortelabs did with Throughput of Learning, and try to write the essay that you imagine writing in a few years after laying groundwork not-yet-laid (here's his such essay: it's 🔥 ribbonfarm.com/2017/01/31/the…)
Retweeted @acidshill
SCENARIO: You get to travel back in time and be the prophet of what will eventually become a major world religion. However,…
@xuenay @StephenPiment This inspired a sort of Oblique Strategies answer, which is "do the thing backwards." Which might be something like talk a bunch about physical action plans, only to have Fred pull the hood off, revealing that you've actually built up a model that explains the idea "belief".
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin As part of widening the palette, gonna offer this video of me from 10 years ago, singing a song I wrote that is mostly not directly about God but does mention him (Him? Hmm.) in a kind of powerful way, at the end. Grew up chill ~UU Christian. youtube.com/watch?v=IfZd9Z…
@m_ashcroft Oh I forgot, lol, somewhere in there was a godawful visual BASIC tutorial program in a cheesy kids UI 😬 Although tbh I don't think that actually helped any, so.
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
broke: "when i'm with you i can forget" woke: "when i'm with you i can remember and it feels safe"
@visakanv (the tweet 2 deep below quotes Victor Wooten saying "I can teach you nothing. I can only *show* you things."")
Crowdsourcing a deeper meaning: what is therapy? Not just "what happens at a therapist's office," though it could be there. Or alone in the woods, or with a shaman or friend. What does it mean to say someone experienced effective therapy?
Thread · Two meanings of "therapy" and the licensing racket
"therapy" is doing a tricksy ambiguity 1. therapy = "go see someone registered as a therapist" (may not help, or retraumatize) 2. therapy = "untangling your stuff, particularly via therapeutic reconsolidation process" by defn #2, @visakanv's DMs may actually just *be* therapy
Meanwhile, by definition #2, it's entirely possible to *go to a therapist and not get therapy*. Not dissimilar to how a mechanic might fail to repair your car, some product you buy is not what it says on the tin, or court might have a injust show trial, etc.
(Defn #2 needs to be expanded on in order to actually be useful. It's just a placeholder, to point out that there's an actual process that can happen-or-not. Expanding on defn is out of scope for this thread you're reading now, but check out over here👇)
From this perspective, someone who went to a therapist and didn't get therapy is a customer who got ripped off, and telling them they got therapy is institutionalized gaslighting.
Therapy boards have got a nice jerky circular regulatory racket with defn #1. Defining "therapy" as "what therapists do" implies: 🤷♀️ if it didn't work for you, that's your problem. can't say it "wasn't therapy" 🙅♀️ if you're not a licensed therapist, can't do therapy
It makes sense to me that there be ways to verify who's gotten which kinds of training, but the idea that some people are legally qualified to help and others aren't is second only in absurdity to the idea that all "therapists" provide the same service. </hyperbole>
I don't know what the solution looks like, but one piece is encouraging people to trust their own sense of what works for them 🙏 This is, however, the very self-trust that schools traumatize out of people, by telling you they know how you should learn.
Giving adequate therapy to the world is a major bootstrapping process, involving both better frameworks (like Emotional Coherence & memory reconsolidation - see Unlocking the Emotional Brain) and also increasing numbers of people able to guide other people to & through it.
Also bootstrapping because in order for your brain to fully unlearn coercive culture, you need a real experience that something else is available, which is only possible to the extent that it exists for you to experience *even while you don't fully trust it* ❤️
And here's a great thread from @QiaochuYuan on how therapy works and doesn't, from last year.
@mattgoldenberg Mmm, nice, this is great. I've been reading You Are The One You've Been Waiting For by Dick Schwartz who invented IFS, and I've actually been finding the notion of Self at least as important as the stuff around parts.
@the_aiju ❤️😞 lots of resonant comments if you look up `cbt gaslighting`, which... is sad that it's such a thing, but encouraging that people are talking about it that search: twitter.com/search?q=cbt+g…
I recently got a dark pattern cookie prompt, where one option was "accept" and the other option, hidden in pale text, was "don't sell my data" Looked like it was actually basically getting me to unthinkingly "agree" to aggressive tracking cookies 😬 (Lost screenshot unfortch)
this is ofc a natural result of the EU mandating that sites make a meaningless prompt to accept cookies - people get used to clicking it without looking
Leaving aside the question of ownership rights, how much would it cost if I wanted to fund the creation of an audiobook based on a favorite book? (per book, per word, or per hour all helpfil. rough estimates appreciated from those with experience.)
What if instead of talking about "paying attention" we talked about "investing attention"? 🤔 #MetaphorsMatter
@SarahAMcManus Ahhh same minds! I actually wrote this tweet seeking elaboration on the non-bureaucratic answer, having written a thread/rant about the confusion between the two meanings.
@visakanv @Kirsten3531 Ooooh didn't actually see that you'd started reading McGilchrist. Curious what you think of it, Malcolm said 𝘶𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘭𝘺 𝘶𝘯𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘺.
My heart goes out to all of the left hemispheres out there, desperate for an ontology that is consistent and grounded and free of holes 🕳️ 🙏❤️
@sokindling you may also appreciate this writing I've done on metaphor design:
Replying to @RyanGady
@RyanGady I originally had the thought Nov 3, 2019, and was just today listening to a recording of the conversation in which I had & expressed the thought! idk if that makes it a weirder or less-weird coincidence haha 😛
what if every "Lol" was replaced with "Lo!"...
Consider that if you only have one form/context/relationship for welcoming & validating your experiences, then any experiences that cannot or may not be felt or expressed within that context will feel chronically unwelcomed & invalid. Those experiences are welcome too. ♥️💞🙏
There is but one duality: between everything and nothing.
I need a new computer and a new phone, and I'm growing increasingly concerned as a longtime PC+Android user that one of them may end up being an Apple device, for the sake of the music production software & apps available. Any thoughts?
Replying to @abhayance
Thinking about @MonasticAcademy's trifecta of Love, Wisdom, & Power… and about how in order for there to be power in the physical sense, there must be an energy gradient, which is also implied by the imagery of "flow" in this quote @tasshinfogleman @dthorson @JasnaSeishin twitter.com/abhayance/stat…
I can tell when I'm tapping into my Enneagram 8 side (I'm a 7w8) because I think: "I need an assistant. No—I need a whole crew!" Feeling that today and it's a lot of fun. Also spaciously trusting that the possibility-field I'm feeling will remain once the feeling leaves.
@KevinVerre - I'm digging examineyourthoughts.com just wanted to point out that the link to thework.com is broken because it's missing the https://
(I'm currently on Linux, btw, not Windows, although I dualboot Windows enough to run a few pieces of software that I could probably just run natively on a mac)
Retweeted @jemelehill
The WAP remix you didn’t know you needed. Follow her on IG at rachel_harper_comedy
Can't shake the feeling that USA woulda been better off if it'd somehow kept the thing where ppl just run for President and the person with the 2nd most number of votes becomes VP. Ofc, if Hamilton musical accurate, this was undermined by "campaigns against" in the 1st place 🤦♀️
@stevejohnryan I don't actually know! (fyi: see comment about Linux) I haven't used anything fancier than audacity since 2012 when I spent a few hours at the computer at a studio I recorded at (I forget if they used Logic or Reason lol - such similar names)
@stevejohnryan In terms of what I actually want to do, my dream world is that I do very little production, just like record some demos, someone makes a backing track, then I later record a nice audio track, and someone else mixes & masters it.
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@stevejohnryan Yoo this looks boss. Good point about my priorities: creativity, songwriting, collab I had checked out bandlab too, which looks similar. Haven't yet had luck with Linux (Ubuntu 18.04) recognizing my old USB MIDI Yamaha Portable Grand, but I don't think that's about the software.
Retweeted @AskYatharth
complice.co finally *clicked* for me something about 1. writing goals in a way I’m excited about 2. ordering…
Replying to @gregorylent
@gregorylent @AskYatharth "vs" is optional ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@sadalsvvd @m_ashcroft @visakanv @BrunoArine @nosilverv @CompliceGoals re "tendency to make the unconscious conscious" auto-anthropology
Retweeted @nosilverv
I think the thing me and my mutuals most share is that we aren’t losers??? Like I see so many people bitching about this “he…
idek what "economic left" means anymore exactly but in my dreamtopia people would give their spare income to other people to do interesting projects or start businesses, like a sort of crowdfunded UBI twitter.com/ellegist/statu…
@maybegray @AmneMachin @aphercotropist Yeah makes sense that that would be one way to read it, although in the way I use language I'd say that @maybegray making the general comment in the original tweet is not "insulting/attacking someone". But even if it is, conscious meta-hypocrisy can be a fun paradox game!
@QiaochuYuan I can't explicitly explain what I felt I understood but when I saw Figures 2.1 & 2.2 my jaw dropped and I made a "ungh!" sound of realization. I think some part of me gets the proof. (I studied torque in engineering, so I have some intuitions for it.)
@QiaochuYuan Reading the actual description, yeah, the math checks out too. Not sure I've fully hooked up the math to the intuition moment (legit no pun intended!) but yeah, this is really cool.
Replying to @FateOfTwist_
@FateOfTwist_ @Nick_Yawn @eric_ruleman @QiaochuYuan even this proof doesn't actually prove that it works with all angles—could be literally just one I've tripped myself up exploring geometric patterns and generalizing my results to situations where they didn't actually apply, since I hadn't tested those other situations carefully
@maybegray I mean I think part of it is guys are afraid of being hit on by other guys and not being able to protect themselves from advances. Whether or not that's an accurate fear in a given situation is beside the point.
@visakanv Simple upgrade: get some hue lights that can let you tune your room to different colors.
God, grant us the serenity to exercise our bounded rationality freely in the systems that are structured appropriately, the courage to restructure the systems that aren't, and the wisdom to know the difference! — Donella Meadows, Thinking in Systems
Powerful article talking about how the 1619 project is important and also convoluted, and stressing the vitality of recognizing the many causes & moments that contribute to history, and the need for a diverse range of perspectives. nytimes.com/2020/10/09/opi…
This excerpt makes a great point that a contradiction requires multiple things to contradict each other, it doesn't backdate to the first. The contradiction between slavery and the "all men are created equal" didn't exist *until* the second phrase was declared, in 1776.
The article also points at something that people consistently misunderstand when they try to do things, which is that if you try to just do things that others don't like, turns out they will fight back and do things that *you* don't like! 😮🤦♀️ How inconvenient.
I'm decent at chess, but not very good, and one of the things that limits my skill is that I often come up with strategies that underestimate the extent to which my opponent will thwart my plan. "But it would have worked so well if they'd just let me..!"
Daniel Schmachtenberger talks in this video about how it's easier to get on the same page if you focus on problems rather than on proposed solutions. If my solution causes your problem, you're not gonna let me do it! &vv. So we need to find a way to talk.
When I feel into the tone of inconvenience/frustration described here, and the way of thinking involved, it feels clear to me that it's characteristic of how the left hemisphere tries to solve problems. And if thwarted, tightens grip, which ofc causes an arms race. 💪💪
I found a really fun relation to graph yx⁵-xy¹⁰-100= 500xy - x³y which I guess is yx⁵ + x³y = xy¹⁰ + 500xy + 100 enter this in the calculator: yx^{5}-xy^{10\ }-100=\ 500xy\ -\ x^{3}y desmos.com/calculator
I'm looking for a company I heard of, maybe by someone in my network... It lets startups raise cash by basically having investors buy/sell not stock shares but subscription revenue. So say someone subscribes $12 monthly to complice.co, I could sell year's $ for $130.
@reasonisfun Yeah this was part of what was so funny when we first started talking goals and you were so anti-goals, because my main answer to this would have been "I thought of stuff I thought I wanted to do then decided I was gonna do it" which I usually call goal-setting.
@reasonisfun And I think there's value to pursuing your best hypothesis of what you want to do, even if you're not sure, because then you get more information and maybe find out if that's not the thing.
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna @earnestcapital That... is not the thing I saw! But seems similar. The thing I saw was a platform/SaaS itself, so they didn't do the investing themselves, but like, anyone (or maybe you needed a qualification idk) could sign on and invest.
@made_in_cosmos I saved this yesterday for just such an occasion reddit.com/r/aww/comments…
@TexasBigData @narayanarjun @paulg @icmesccm @paultoo I could see @Stripe going into the kind of space that @Pipe and @getCapchase are in, converting monthly subscriptions into up-front cash with ongoing share of deferred revenue. Sort of an obvious move. wsj.com/articles/start…
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna @earnestcapital @GetCapchase @pipe Pipe! That's the one I was thinking of. And yeah, Capchase looks like the same concept. Here's what I wanted it for:
@AbhayPrasanna nailed it—@Pipe. Fyi Pipe y'all might want to try to list under searches for these sorts of queries that I tried: `startup monthly payment as yearly payment investment` `startup monthly payment as yearly payment` `sell startup subscription`
@made_in_cosmos Not an animal but made me laugh just now: Turns out a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tubeman, played in reverse, can actually dance pretty well! youtube.com/watch?v=s41U9S…
"He who truly loves the world must shape himself to please it" - Felix Krull I'm struck by a sense of this being a different kind of orientation than something more like "I need to do the most important thing." It's similar, but from love, not fear.
@hmmmcurious Fear of uncertainty. This is the same mechanism that causes gamblers to gamble until their pockets are empty: now the uncertainty of "will I gamble more?" is gone. Similarly alcoholics taking their first drink: removes the uncertainty of "(when) will I drink today?"
@SarahAMcManus @Conaw @philmohun @andy_matuschak Ha! Yes. To both original meme+pun, and to duckboat being maybe a more accurate metaphor.
Retweeted @MikeNayna
channelling cosmic energy
Just remembered I used to own a mac mini (got as a gift from software company I worked at) and I cannot remember whatsoever what happened to it. I'm almost certain I sold or gave it to someone, but can't even remember the year that would have been, let alone who!
Lol almost 4 years later, Twitter has Unicode 13 emoji support (eg 🥲) and @SlackHQ still doesn't even have Unicode 11 support! (eg 🥰) What's taking you guys? You already have awesome custom emoji support, so it's not like the emoji list can't be updated.
the fire of life
@danlistensto Cool! Are you using their Pop!OS or Ubuntu or something else? I'm at this point feeling like System76 is probably the way to go inasmuch as I do end up going with Linux.
The Dao that has an upcoming Chuck Tingle novel about it is not the true Dao.
I had something nobody wanted and I wanted to give it to nobody but nobody lives nowhere and nowhere's hard to get to because everywhere I can get to is still part of somewhere
@Morphenius just saw in one of my old call notes that I'd said I'd send you this article. Dovetails tightly with McGilchristian brain hemispheres.
@AskYatharth I like the term "Famself"! I currently have a goal titled "Fluid Selfing", which I imagine is pretty similar in many ways. Inspired by the term "selfing" from meaningness.com/self
expired: blame tired: taking responsibility inspired: making response-ability
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa the worst part of it, imho, is being told it's supposed to be good this 👎 didn't just happen, it was also supposedly right/good/meaningful etc, and if you didn't like it *you* had a problem
@alt_visa mass institutionalized gaslighting at least with a proper prison you're not expected to like it (also I just want to take a moment and appreciate my pointing at @QiaochuYuan's tweet using a thumbs down instead of a finger pointing down)
@SarahAMcManus :D :D :D this made me make my mouth open yay face!
After having been broadly just known as the nerd for most of my childhood, when I went to a completely new school in g9 we did an exercise of writing compliments on each others' backs, and I got multiple "funny", "makes me laugh" etc, and I was like "wait, what!? really!?"
@fortelabs what comes to mind for me:
One of my intentions for tomorrow: 3) use time-travel to investigate outcomes-hang bug
this is… allegedly… a photo of somewhere in indonesia. but somehow it seems fake 🧐 though I'm not sure if photoshop fake or neuralnet fake
Replying to @GeorgeLanetz
@GeorgeLanetz Yeah, I mean, another thing you can do with a model is paint them. I'm sort of playing with the word "model" having multiple meanings here, but I think the basic idea actually does hold.
@Elodes12 @PYeerk As a teen watching a busker festival, I was struck by how when women stripped down to less clothes for some act, there would be cheering & whistles of appreciation, maybe catcalls... ...when men did, there would be laughter 😕
me but I've only had 2 in the last 6 yrs anyway (plus one from my sister, who also has curly hair) my hair is currently the longest it's ever been. it's previously reached the nipple when pulled straight but now does as curls! (there's a nipple if you click to expand photo 😉)
@nbashaw That's amazing 😂 I think the actual issue is that spotify adds something profound (search & stream 40M songs) but then fails to actually look meaningfully different from Winamp while doing so. Still mostly just a music library & playlists. Rant:
@todayiwasbetter you asked me to add you to the DM group @michaelcurzi is making after the Keith Johnstone talk, but I can't seem to do so... looks like maybe you'd need to follow me first, given your settings?
@JeffLadish Oh yeah, to be clear, I'm not asserting it's fake. I wouldn't confidently put money on it being fake. I just... 🤨
brb going for a walk in the gloaming
@visakanv "but visa there are literally 9999 todo apps" yea and all of them implement the same boring old workflow
Retweeted @visakanv
sometimes I think about making a todo app 😂 "but visa there are literally 9999 todo apps" yea and none of them do what I wa…
This is what happens when it's not safe to tell your superiors bad news. By far the most tragic version of such a story that I'm aware of though. npr.org/sections/krulw…
surely gossip webs are made of gossamer
Retweeted @Aella_Girl
as a former extremely intolerant fundamentalist conservative i am really not sympathetic to "don't give [offensive ideology…
@mattgoldenberg Wow yeah it's hard to imagine they're just being ignored. But then again, the world of profit-at-scale is a weird one, idk.
@yashkaf Great article that outlines like 14 dimensions of relationships, noting that "exclusivity" shows up in non-romantic relationships, such as the friend you always watch the next game of thrones episode with. intimacycartography.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/the…
@chaosprime @MMMalign @meditationstuff ...this is my jam.
@m_ashcroft @sashachapin win wins twitter.com/sashachapin/st…
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin @m_ashcroft win wins
@m_ashcroft what if I were blind but I could view everyone else's stream?
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft @ssica3003 Is the real name thing an issue because work? Or what? Seems to me that normalizing talking about mental health stuff is in the adjacent possible and worth pioneering.
@mattgoldenberg I found this thread really beautiful to witness 💞 Seeing the work that you're doing to welcome your own experience, and the commitment you have to doing that.
@tomcritchlow @aaronzlewis I sometimes do this at least for the first "getting back in touch message", and then maybe later I'll message them on the other platform but like, it'll be chill at that point.
Retweeted @selentelechia
tfw you're the obstacle AND the way :/
“𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘺” — Marcus Aurelius
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia one of my favorite quotes
@SarahAMcManus @visakanv @CompliceGoals @RoamResearch Huh... I think this is a different direction than I'd been imagining for the integration, but it's definitely in some sense compatible with Complice philosophy! and the blocks are kinda like this graph in the yearly review (intentions set but not completed point down)
@juvoni I sometimes seek them out with a tone like "where are you, fears? I'm gonna love you!" I've been learning it works better when I don't attack the very parts of me that are afraid, and instead try to get them the info they need in order to update!
as far as I can tell, this is true of almost all political philosophies & similar they have a reasonably accurate description of a problem, combined with a proposed solution that would: • never get off the ground • explode if it did • immediately be reverse-engineered by foes
@ben_r_hoffman @Morphenius this is relevant to your recent explorations of the Kabbalah.
Retweeted @CompliceGoals
@AskYatharth @CatsterQed Oh wait, that was Complice's response to your initial tweet. Complice's response to @CatsterQe…
@patio11 @ben_r_hoffman Haven't finished checkout process yet but looks like I can do this separately on amazon.com & amazon.ca (I shop on both). CA is smaller & slightly worse deal tho (CA$6 for CA$30).
@ben_r_hoffman demon in the fleets barber in the sheets hotel in the south france between the wars
> literally Elmer Fudd disguised as the Monopoly Man 😂 😚👌
@patio11 @ben_r_hoffman Huh, not sure if this worked. I pushed the button then hit reload, and it just said "reloaded", but there was no sign that the dots connected to the bonus. We'll see I guess! On amazon.ca though it went to checkout and showed that the bonus would be applied.
@ben_r_hoffman Ah yeah, good point though. Many proposed solutions don't afford a response of "we literally tried that and that's what got us into this mess" except on the highest level of abstraction, where it's still true. Hence need for a completely new human operating system.
@kevinakwok @patio11 nailed it 🤣
@kevinakwok @patio11 now imagining a political lawn sign that says Prime Day 2020
Pondering that one of my most liked tweets (49 as of this moment) was framed as "niche" 🧐 I suppose I am basically at the center of that niche. If a random person on twitter tweeted this, nobody would even know what they meant.
still in search of better writing contexts that produce these gems
@visakanv sea pig is so wrong for dolphin dolphins are hunters and had something like wolves as ancestors
@the_aiju @visakanv different etymology-type, but wanted to share this "chipmunk" is an extreme anglicization of an indigenous name meaning "head first"
I just tried turning on @brave rewards and got a fucking *notification* telling me to go to a random site. What the fuck. My notifications are sacred. Push notifications that aren't personal and timely are attention spam. I have a price, but no advertisers could afford it.
@drossbucket Ooooh I don't know much about Derrida but I'm a top tier McGilchrist fan so I'll check it out!
@mattgoldenberg @ben_r_hoffman Yeah, although I still like what you said 😂 But we can talk about the difference, here. On a super general level, could say: We tried a new operating system but we didn't "try a new operating system on purpose knowing what happened last time we tried one accidentally"
@protoneutype Oh snap. That seems like it could be at least part of it. And not talked about because of the shame associated with the topic, let alone the mutilation itself. @ben_r_hoffman has thoughts
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the inner city culture war graffiti is getting surprisingly nuanced ⚔️🏙️
@protoneutype the medium is the message maybe the slowness and situatedness of the graffiti exchanges is encouraging a kind of dialogue that we've forgotten how to do out loud, let alone on social media
@TraciMac70 @mini_bubbly I keep thinking this too but then I remember that it would take longer because people stuck at home would get their housemates or family sick, which could take another few weeks to play out. Was annoyed when here in Ontario: "cool, cases almost zero, let's let em grow again"
@gptbr00ke sincerity + humor ftw!
@nickcammarata @PoemsWeBurned Wow nice. I want to do more of this. Also makes me think about my sense of wanting fractional pronouns, of which there could also be a second-person one for addressing a part of oneself or someone else.
if a caterpillar understood *why* it would become butterfly it would not t.co/HrecfqX6Dv
@CrisprChild Boredom seems like a defense against being told you should be interested in something, against your will. (Usually gets internalized & shows up in absence of external pressure) When I don't feel subject to such a force, I don't feel bored, I just shift.
@SeanMombo @sadalsvvd Yeah, welcoming every thought seems vital, and part of treating one's own thinking process with respect. Attempts to negate one's thoughts may work in the short term but you can't actually destroy them as far as I can tell.
meanwhile these indian temples are straight up deep dream shit
It's not my fault. It's not your fault. It's not our fault. It's not his fault. It's not her fault. It's not their fault. It's nobody's fault. Fucking nobody. 🙄 I hate nobody!! 🤬 May nobody burn in hell 🔥
I wish I could choose whether a reply to my own tweet would become a thread vs just be sorted with the rest of the replies. Sometimes I want to "comment on" my own tweet, but I can't really do that.
so important to teach while you're learning, because otherwise it's easy to forget a bunch of important rungs of the ladder that were vital to you months or years ago (working with the garage door up is one way to do this)
noting also ofc that everyone's path is different (although this beautiful quote below dramatically underrepresents (from my perspective) the extent to which it is actually possible to help people sort out their psychological armor)
great example of @mattgoldenberg revealing his process recently
@simiansunny @xuenay Two other great sources on the topic of self & no-self: meaningness.com/self
@simiansunny @xuenay (that was 1, the other is (mis)Translating the Buddha by Romeo Stevens) docs.google.com/document/d/10q…
this tweet and some of the comments on it are fucking great
This actually says a lot about how good the baby's model of physics already is. Not so much the throw itself, but the immediate perception that something improbable and awesome had happened. @meditationstuff twitter.com/Trevornoah/sta…
@verohecko @meditationstuff Ahh true. Still, the baby is looking at the bottle before going 😮, not at the people. Maybe had already seen others react before looking at the bottle? idk.
Thread · Fractional second-person pronouns and non-reified parts work · 15 of 17 tweets
does it still count as a note-to-self if you don't write it in 2nd person? seems to me it doesn't count but anyway, this turned into a thread exploring some new thoughts I've been having about partswork, so keep reading for that 🥰🧵
I'm thinking I want to do more writing to myself, and also feeling like it would be fun to have a fractional second person pronoun for that. y'all :: you : you : ___ (here's a ridiculous idea: repurpose "thou" for that)
I've been reaching whole new levels of self-integration recently and part of me is raising the concern that somehow having fractional pronouns would cause fragmentation. I appreciate thou, part, for raising that concern 🙏😛
And... I find myself noting that the same argument could be applied to claim that people would be more united if we got rid of "I/me/mine", and that's literally one of Ayn Rand's communist dystopias (Anthem—only novel of hers I've read, and it's quite good)
Anyway, I seem to also think having fractional pronouns may be less problematic than having *names* for given parts. Internal parts are slipperier than individual people, whose neurons don't tend to migrate between craniums. (Not saying naming parts is bad, to be clear!)
The self-integration work I've been doing lately hasn't involved reifying any particular parts in any ongoing way. I simply recognize that each of my thoughts represents the output/process of some subsystem. These systems evolve, and also may overlap. Can't neatly carve them up.
I refer to the parts contextually, eg "Ahh, there's a part of me that is fending off blame here. It's fighting. Hello fighty <3 Yeah, you're trying to insist that I'm completely powerless and blameless, because you really don't want me to feel blamed." No ongoing "fighty" part.
In this case, the next day I ended up going a lot deeper in dialogued with this part. Turned out it cares a lot about me not being blamed, & sometimes blames other people, but doesn't particularly *want* to. Just wants to not be blamed—okay! Blame nobody.
(The perspective from which it's actually coherent to blame nobody is a whole treatise in itself, but as far as I can tell, blame as a framework for explaining behavior is outdated in the same way geocentrism is outdated. Study Systems Thinking for initial sketches at helio.)
Another example: "the part of you that wants space right now" Later, that "part" might want something else, and/or another "part" may want space. These arise and pass. We relate with what is here to be related with.
Sometimes I feel a sense of unity around what I'm thinking. It feels like the whole picture. Often it's not tho! In fact, invariably no perspective is ever the whole picture, even if I have a unified sense of myself in a given moment. Others still see things I don't.
In particular, I'll also note that anger & frustration, being very left-hemisphere lateralized, tend to block out the presence of other perspectives, including whatever fears or shames or panics they're guarding. Can welcome them and also ask "what else is present?"
Anyway! Rather than thinking about myself as "having" parts, ie "whatever thoughts of mine I don't identify with" (aka egodystonic) I'm trying to not identify with any thoughts in particular, and to identify myself with the process that observes and organizes these thoughts.
The "observe" part may sound like I'm talking about some nonconceptual awareness, and I think that's sorta true inasmuch as I'm probably referring to something right-hemisphere lateralized. But it's also, I think, what IFS calls Self. Not denying self. my "selfing function"
This seems to me to be very compatible with the dharma as I understand it, although many people approach the dharma in ways that may not be compatible with this.
@nickcammarata @PoemsWeBurned Welp, accidentally summoned a whole thread with my recent thoughts on partswork.
Thread · Fractional second-person pronouns and non-reified parts work · 1 of 17 tweets
In particular, "no-self", ie anatta, might actually just *be* the thing I'm referring to when I say I don't reify or identify with any parts of me! Would love to hear thoughts on this from @xuenay, @mattgoldenberg, @meditationstuff, @Meaningness Start 👇
@BraveSampson @danlistensto @brave Yes and no. I opted into Brave Rewards on the new tab page without knowing it would send me push notifications. I figured it would be like, certain sites I visited, instead of having banner ads blocked, would show these ads instead. Totally inobtrusive.
@BraveSampson @danlistensto @brave If the first "ad" hadn't shown up for another few days, at which point I might've forgotten about BR, I might've thought I'd gotten malware on my computer. I was NOT told what to expect by opting in, and thus I had the experience of being an unsuspecting user who was pushed on.
@BraveSampson @danlistensto @brave I'm reading the thread above a bit more thoroughly. It didn't manage to show a push notification explaining, the moment I opted in. I had a different user profile window fullscreened; that sometimes blocks... ..but just a few minutes later, ad for tquorum came thru fine.
Tbqh, even tho it's not enabled by default, the mere *idea* that the designers of Brave think that the world would be better off with people getting random push notifications multiple times an hour is making me seriously reconsider my alignment with its entire design philosophy.
FFS, it's hard enough to focus on an internet-connected computer as it is, without your browser throwing random shit at you when you're trying to single-task.
@BraveSampson @danlistensto @brave Sampson, appreciating you coming into dialogue about this, and wanting to let you know that this has me concerned on a pretty deep level.
@BraveSampson @danlistensto @brave I appreciate that y'all are trying to do something different in relation to ads, monetization, etc. I was an early adopter of flattr. This is a tough challenge and it hasn't been cracked yet. And: we can—we MUST—do better than paid push notifications.
Also I had no idea what the actual compensation was likely to be for these ads, but looking it up it seems it's maybe 1 cent per ad, sometimes maybe less than 0.1 cents. Absurd. Anyone who needs such a tiny amount of money cannot afford to buy anything from advertisers anyway.
update: the time-travel worked fine the bug is nowhere in sight 🧐🐛
New [[metaphor]]: @RoamResearch is like a wikipedia wormhole, but for producing rather than consuming. Instead of getting lost reading, get lost writing! ✍️
Thread · A running collection of delightful animal clips · 1 of 35 tweets
let he who has not worn a purple baby octopus mask to impress female, cast the first stone
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot don't forget to export 💙
@KHPavle @lilmaudlin I've not done this yet but I'm excited to. Dad recently started scanning a bunch of old photo albums and I went through them a few months ago. Here's tiny-me hiding under a table at a function.
@BraveSampson Hmm... "incrementally better"... it sounds like you think this is a pareto improvement, which it clearly isn't if one acknowledges there's a cost to random notifications at all, let alone a huge cost (as I think). Twitter's not a great place for clarifying disagreements tho. hm.
@TylerAlterman @_kirro @nosilverv I did a tantra yoga meditation retreat 3y ago and we did a walking still point meditation where we imagined a jewel in our chest that was stationary and that we were pulling the world toward us by walking. I tried making *other* ppl stationary and it was hard but trippy af.
@BraveSampson > that is better than today's Web ads You don't get to tell me what my values are.
@BraveSampson Trying to take your perspective right now, I imagine you feel pretty defensive, which makes sense since I'm kind of attacking the thing that you're working hard on! ❤️ I'm feeling defensive and pretty not heard, myself, about how the intended opt-in experience failed to be one.
@BraveSampson I think that the approach of replacing banner ads etc with some other ad is the way to do it. That would have a chance at being an improvement. When I first heard about brave last year, that's how I assumed it would work.
@BraveSampson I try not to be paternalistic about this stuff but I actually think that offering the user what they think they want here is not necessarily a caring move, because most people don't understand the costs of attentional disruptions. Sort of like a tasty food with trace toxins.
@BraveSampson I get the impression from this thread that the @Brave folks *also* don't deeply understand the risks of the attentional additives they're putting in the food (although you kind of think you do) so it's not like I think you're trying to poison people.
@EpistemicHope Doesn't really tell you much given the variance in what people mean by buddhism and stoicism. Either can involve lots of suppression of stuff, or a lot of welcoming in reality. eg I'm not worried about @peternlimberg
(Re licensing regulations for things like therapy & yoga teaching) We train *out* peoples' self-trust, then try to reconstruct trustability through legibility, and people still get hurt because goodhart and... lack of self-trust.
Thread · Google's new logos and why they're worse · 3 of 5 tweets
I feel like Google accidentally hired too many designers a year ago or something (maybe some projects got cancelled to eat the devs?) and so they've redone the logos for Google Photos and Google Drive, but like... the new logos aren't any better? They're fine, but who cares?
Update: while researching the above tweet for like 2 minutes I saw that they're fucking even worse with other logos, so I have rescind my "they're fine" and now I agree with @TechCrunch: Google’s new logos are bad. Snarky & spot on article: techcrunch.com/2020/10/06/goo…
So many things I could quote from that article, but most of the awfulness of the logos is (imo) self-evident, so instead I'll quote this: > The message is clear: Out with the old — the things that built your trust; and in with the new — the things that capitalize on your trust.
Replying to @forgingtowards
@forgingtowards nobody: Google: I'll fuck me up
@visakanv @maltybegray @RichDecibels @cognazor @MenanderSoter @fdilke @Aryeh___ @made_in_cosmos @maybegray @m_ashcroft @nibrasibn @SarahAMcManus @ssica3003 @tasshinfogleman @QiaochuYuan wanted to riff on this 👆 but somehow didn't feel like it made sense to QT it, so instead I'm QTing the riff here which feels a lot cooler now that QTs are shown in-UI.
Was just doing a listening practice on @WisdomRebel, and my listener asked me simply: "who are you?" …and it was so heart-opening to be asked that in a context where I had 5 minutes to speak, and no sense of needing to hold someone's attention.
How tf am I supposed to tweet if twitter's search is down?
@juvoni not sure whether this info suggests short or long google 🤔 OT1H, not all of google thought it was bad OTOH, somehow that info didn't uhh, get integrated? OTGH, prior for companies is they're shit at dialogue, so,,,
Thread · Doing Byron Katie's The Work with parts instead of ego
I was skeptical of Byron Katie's The Work as it seemed close to CBT's idea of wrong thoughts needing to be negated. New take is that it might work—IF you can encourage the part that's generating a given thought to explore its thinking process, without in any way doubting it. 🧵
Clarification 1: encouraging the part to explore its own thinking process, as different from trying to interrogate the part using your ego. It's like, inviting the part to take charge of more of your mental resources, and expand & elaborate its thinking process.
Clarification 2: respecting your thinking process means not just not doubting the output, but not doubting the frame either. Allowing that your thinking is happening within a frame, and makes sense within that frame. How the frame gets integrated with the whole is a separate Q.
For reference, these are the 4 Qs of "The Work" 1. Is it true? 2. Can you absolutely know that it's true? 3. How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought? 4. Who would you be without the thought?
If you ask these questions of your parts, using your ego (which is the default way to approach something like this) the parts will likely experience it as interrogation, rather than inquiry. (I have a thread about below 2×2 but twitter search is down so idk where it is)
Oh, though the "turnaround" seems pretty cool. Invert the belief in various ways and look for ways the other forms also resonate. eg "My husband should listen to me": • "I should listen to my husband" • "I should listen to myself" • "My husband shouldn't listen to me"
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@Malcolm_Ocean Thanks, Twitter
@forshaper call me by my (subjectively) true names
@ben_r_hoffman @coponder I read this tweet and my mind had the thought "you're beautiful!" …it was very quiet! Almost missed it, but then I saw it and thought I would share. Have been feeling enlivened by how you've been showing up on twitter the past months 🌱
I submitted my outcomes & intentions last night on my phone, and Complice completely lost them and I have nobody to be mad at except me because I made Complice fuck it I'm gonna blame nobody instead.
This isn't quite the same as my vision but it is close and it is awesome and I would love to participate and/or have it intertwingled with my vision 💞
Retweeted @Neuro_Skeptic
Better Safe Than Sorry: A Common Signature of General Vulnerability for Psychopathology pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33006909/ https://…
@MickJayWalker @thepericulum I have a thread about this stuff:
Thread · Using caffeine on your best days instead of your worst · 1 of 21 tweets
I recently read that caffeine increases broad activation in whole brain (makes sense, since it affects wakefulness) whereas dopaminergic stimulants (eg ADHD meds & their illegal counterparts) primarily cause narrow activation (makes sense, since left hemisphere favors dopamine)
@DougTataryn Haha in this case easier to rewrite it since it was just a few written intentions for the day. Totally appreciate your response though—would use something like that for a review. (And yeah, not sure if doable on phone unfortunately)
@jonnym1ller @WisdomRebel Not sure, don't think so? The "Other Side of Language": Exploring the Power of Listening Speech. by Rosa Zubizaretta / Diapraxis
@DougTataryn you might be interested in this thread too, and I'd also be curious to hear your thoughts on it!
Without commenting on what *should* be a 911 call, I found myself noting the cleverness of this tweet, getting reader to first facepalm at the frozen meat caller, then swiftly putting cannabis calls in the same category of facepalm-worthy 🤦♀️🤦🤦♂️ Done the day before legalization!
The general pattern is "Thing everybody knows as if it's a PSA. Thing not everybody knows, that we're implying is (or should be) as obvious as the first thing." This... is actually a kind of underhanded way to argue. Maybe effective, but... 😬 Can also carry contempt.
fuck daylight savings time
@daemonhugger @visakanv @reasonisfun @theorangealt @samuelbars I've thought about this a bunch and as far as I can tell it isn't intrinsically coercive but usually is part of coercive motivation. That's not saying much though since almost everyone's motivation is coercive (even simply "do X or feel bad" has this kind of structure)
@daemonhugger @visakanv @reasonisfun @theorangealt @samuelbars Punishment is known (even by behaviorists) to not work. Perceptual Control Theory explains why: learning happens via reorganization. Punishment just produces reorganization until the punishment goes away, which could be avoidance, goodharting, lying, etc.
@daemonhugger @visakanv @reasonisfun @theorangealt @samuelbars One articulation of what commitment contracts do, in a neutral non-punishment lens, is: - create clarity about a timeline - tip the balance on a scale (no pun intended) ↳ you know this worked if the choice now feels obvious - pre-emptively shift story/identity
@daemonhugger @visakanv @reasonisfun @theorangealt @samuelbars I'll also share a case study of a recent iteration on my blogposting system. I used to have a commitment contract, now I have what I call a "showtime" (which I explain in the post) malcolmocean.com/2020/10/deadli…
Yo @Songify where's the "this song is annoying never play it again even if I hit play all on the artist/album" button? This seems like an obvious thing to have, like blocking an unwanted user on a social media site.
@GooglePlayMusic & @youtubemusic at least have a 👎 button. It doesn't do much (maybe made song not show up in radio, idk) but it made it easier to manually pick out unwanted tracks when putting on an album, at least.
@mattgoldenberg @xuenay @m_ashcroft > bundles of really strong associations that we call addiction/trauma whaaaat? I maybe see what you mean re addiction, but I thought Coherence Therapy is precisely intended to work with "what we call trauma"
@mattgoldenberg @xuenay @m_ashcroft Maybe you're pointing somewhat at not reifying parts particularly much? (ie not giving them names like you might with IFS) That makes a kind of sense to me.
@mattgoldenberg @xuenay @m_ashcroft One of the most potent books I've read on addiction, The Biology of Desire, was written by a researcher and ex-addict, and it describes addiction as something to be unlearned rather than as a medical issue. Not saying that disagrees with what you're saying, but seems relevant.
@mattgoldenberg @xuenay @m_ashcroft re addiction, I think it's also worth separating the "strong reward loop" neural cluster from the associated thoughts & feelings & reasons that show up in relation to it this approach ⬇️ points at something important here, & can be part of partswork:
Here's the thread, now that search is back: (tagging @BerminghamJack, who RT'd the graphic)
Retweeted @AlanMCole
Two pullquotes from well-regarded papers today. I'm not asking you to support any particular policy. I just want you to rea…
@SquallJay @MaajidNawaz left & right are super arbitrary & changing in any case, always okay to say "this axis is bollocks & everything I care about is orthogonal to it" article illustrating how if you let "liberal", "progressive", & "conservative" mean things, you can be all 3 everythingstudies.com/2018/12/06/i-l…
The left hemisphere is not made for dealing with people, *at all*. It has an intrinsically objectifying orientation—which is not a judgment: it's made for dealing with objects.
I've been finding it satisfying lately to do pelvic thrusts, as almost like a mix of workout & trauma release exercise, whether standing or lying down. I have a sense doing it before napping is improving my sleep quality actually, similar to tensing my whole body then releasing.
My main issue with most frameworks is that they have almost nothing useful to say about what to do in the meantime.
It's hard to have relationships that are simultaneously high-standard & low sense of rship "at stake" Entirely possible, it just requires an acknowledgment of the learning process, rather than trying to immediately try to be the most awesome thing you can imagine, all the time.
Does "Ontario, CA" refer to
Thread · Offering help to someone building a similar app · 3 of 4 tweets
Hey @SamHBarton, I'm checking out lifewrite.today and it's reminding me of my app complice.co (eg "Today Page") and I had a brief moment of "oh no" before "wait, there's so much space for other explorations!" and anyway what I want to say is: How can I help?
Because I realized that the default scenario with something like this is that it doesn't even really get off the ground, and that would be sad 😕 So like I've done with various other entrepreneurs (including @Conaw!) would love to explore & help you realize your vision here 🚀
Also shoutout to @bmndr / @dreev for helping encourage this cooperative philosophy. They helped mentor me+Complice from the very outset, which evolved into mutual advising & mutually profitable app integrations. blog.beeminder.com/dogeatdog/
Copy and paste but change what the bunny is holding (\_/) ( •_•) / >🚀 twitter.com/selentelechia/…
Convo between me & @SarahAMcManus the other day: S: this topic is usually really tense for us but it seems it's… okay? M: yeah, as far as I can tell, each of us is doing something differently (more groundedness in Self)… either one would be enough break the pattern, but— us:
jazz teases funk fucks
I eventually realized that invoking a whole Date class to handle what were only days (times and timezones completely irrelevant) was silly. Takes this many lines of code to solve the problem perfectly using string manipulation:
@dankuck you don't like my swearing? 😉 it actually has more comments than most of my code. what seems missing to you? (it also has 500 days worth of unit tests—leap & non-leap Feb) (probably could use a check at the start to make sure it's actually a "YYYY-MM-DD" string though)
@dinglevery > Some irrepressibly optimistic part of my brain is eternally convinced I know this feel! 😂 This part is (in) your left hemisphere btw. And is actually a great description of the LH's modus operandi. Needs RH to gently tug it away.
@dinglevery I had once had a sort of nondual insight, and a rationalist sort of guy was trying to interrogate me about it, and I was explaining to him that I couldn't explain it, while simultaneously conveying the nature of the insight to a friend in the room I knew would get it, by my ~tone
@SamHBarton @bmndr @dreev @KevinNTH Mmm, cool. This is Complice's version of that. Instead of trying to have a bunch of stuff it just shows the one "next action" you have. Definitely an ADHD helper. These things are remarkably easy to ignore though unfortunately, if in internal conflict 🤔 chrome.google.com/webstore/detai…
@andy_matuschak @bmndr @dreev Radditude! (🤔😬🧐🙄)
Muahaha I have now solved this! TL;DR = I schedule a paragraph/draft/outline to go live at a date/time, then however much I edit it beforehand is how much it gets edited. Pulls the writing out of me by removing ambiguity about when to write. But no force! malcolmocean.com/2020/10/deadli…
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
Muahaha I have now solved this! TL;DR = I schedule a paragraph/draft/outline to go live at a date/time, then however mu…
Thread · Finding people who'd love the parts of your dream you don't · 5 of 6 tweets
A tiny meditation invitation, if you'll pause here for a moment. Hi. Think of a dream you have. ☁️ A vision or project, that you care about but it's not happening. 😕 Got it? Okay. What parts of it do you not want to do? 😣 Now imagine someone else would LOVE to do that. 😍
Who are they? How would you find them? How would you need to communicate about it, in order for them to go "fuck yeah"? Would it be a $0 collab, or would you want to pay them? Or would they want to pay you? Or would some third person be stoked to fund both of you? 😮
When people are operating from can't-not-do YESness energy, money is liberated from "compensation" to take on new roles! It can be used to… 🧑💼 free time from bullshit jobs 🙏 clarify the container of a coaching-style relationship 🙃 explore relationship with money …&+!
You're more than welcome to comment on this thread (or QT the top tweet) to think out loud about such a dream that you might be able to energize by connecting other people who'd love to do the things you don't want to do & vice versa.
On the flipside, if you have a skill or gift that you'd like to be using more, that is currently laying dormant or stuck doing busywork, that can be another way into this upward spiral. Maybe someone is looking for you!
Finding myself vaguely amused by how the prepositions "in" & "on" are used on the internet. Something is "in" my private roam or Google Drive. Something is "on" my blog or site or public roamblog. The "in" suggests hiddenness, containedness; "on" suggests accessible surface.
Interestingly, if I'm telling a colleague where to find a shared file, I might say "it's on GDrive"—a surface they have access to, I suppose. Exceptions ofc. Folder metaphor can prompt "in". What would a shared digital workspace with "tables" look like? #MetaphorsMatter
@jazzyjermaine Huh, onteresting! Are they coming from languages that have a similar pair of words, that work differently? Or just one? I'm thinking of francophones having trouble with "this" & "that" because French uses "ce" for both, though it technically has "ceci" (this) & "cela" (that).
Retweeted @ResonantPyre
@metadiogenes @palladiummag It may be that science fiction authors have done just as much for the cause of technological…
Thread · Building a meta-team around what releases energy
Wanting to write a thread on the larger meta-vision I have that inspired me to make this move. Initially wrote this in response to @andy_matuschak's response "Y'all, this attitude is rad", but wanted it to be a top-level thread because it's important and stands on its own.
This is inspired for me in part by tapping into what for me is the answer to "what can I do that releases energy rather than requiring energy?" and finding the answer being something on the design/vision/strategy level that every company needs.
But I can't actually found or work at all the companies! Not enough time, and too much other work that needs to happen. So I need to connect with other people, for whom there's some complementary role for them to play, that they feel stoked about!
Sometimes this may even involve me ideating #ThingsIWantToExist, then finding people & encouraging+empowering them to execute it. But "finding people" is not actually my "can't not do" thing. So I guess this meta-team needs a person who LOVES finding!
But damn, how do we bootstrap the meta-team & find a person who loves finding… before we have a person who loves finding?! One answer: it's okay to do things that take energy, in service of that which releases energy!🔥 Other answer is @m_ashcroft's michaelashcroft.org/blog/how-to-fi…
Which is what I'm doing here, & why I'm writing this as a top-level thread not just a reply to Andy. This is a beacon 🌟 Want to work with people doing whatever most deeply energizes you? Join us! …how? There's no formal thing. Joining = participating in this attitude.
I expect that at some point some more formal structures will emerge so this can scale, and I have a vision of that, but for now let's just start exploring things on this attitude level—tapping & releasing the intrinsic motivation energy.
There's a question here of "how do you go about finding out what sorts of things are energy releasing for you?" There's no one answer to that. For me, I had a hunch, and a series of conversations (including one with a friend trained in Sacred Gifts) helped me get clarity.
Another approach that might be helpful for people is what Daniel Schmachtenberger calls Dharma Inquiry. I've only gotten like 10% of the way through his Qs but they seem potent for this. I have a page about this (context+template) on my roamblog. intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
My other suggestion, if you feel lost trying to tap into what would release energy for you to do: start small & try stuff. YESness-based motivation is a skill, & for most people is buried under tangled layers of coercive & authoritarian motivation.
Another suggestion is to focus on the other dimension, of just making contact with people. I'm glad @andy_matuschak is in this thread because he's written about why to [[Work with the garage door up]]. His notes: notes.andymatuschak.org/Work_with_the_… Example:
This thread has been exhilarating & thrilling to write, as it's the 1st time I'm articulating publicly to the biggest vision I currently have that's motivating me, which is a rich network of people who can do this synergic thing really effectively & smoothly, & train others to.🤩
Writing this thread is, clearly, for me, one of those energy-releasing things. However much it has any particular impact, the act of clarifying this, articulating it, and putting it out there, is deeply juicy & satisfying for me.
*AND* it matters that the vision happens. But I'm pursuing it in a way that's energy-releasing! I'm not trying to force myself into becoming a finder-of-people or Sacred Gifts guide. I'm doing what is mine to do, which is "teach them to yearn"
As far as I can tell, there's a kind of RH 🧠 non-doing energy here that is really beautiful. After I release this into the world, I can pause and say "okay, I've done what is mine here for now!" then rest & see what else arises that is mine to do (probably breakfast—it's 4pm😆)
"knowing is half the battle" — GI Joe Some people call this a fallacy, but a more useful approach imo is to take it seriously and modus tollens that shit, which gives you a lovely corollary: "if your battle is less than half-won, you don't actually know [enough]" twitter.com/btohtoh/status…
This inspired by what Barry Gehm did to Clarke's Third Law, which is "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
@andy_matuschak @bmndr @dreev idk exactly what about your comment prompted this, but I started replying and wrote a huge potent thread! Hence my "back atcha" with the "*you're* rad" gif. Was sent before writing any of this, but I felt the encouragement in your comment 🥰
@meditationstuff …put me in the DM group I guess 😂 1 ✅ switchy, yup 2 ✅ straight-ish 3 ✅ non-dysphoric (tho having boobs sounds like fun 🤔) 4 ✅ cis-by-default 6a ✅ feminine male
@meditationstuff @the_aiju I'd guess ~half of the weight of the emotional impact here on @the_aiju was caused by the tweet being declarative ("You are… .") rather than a question ("Are you… ?")
@meditationstuff @the_aiju Obviously it was a question in the sense of being a poll, but by the time you get to that part, you're deep in trying to parse the convoluted 5½-branched slash-and-parenthesis-filled sentence and you're already feeling whatever you're feeling about all that.
@meditationstuff Y'know, cis-by-default is actually sorta my cached 3-5 year old answer to that question. It still probably resonates more for me than many common images of what it would mean to be loudly actively cis-male, but I've touched more potent & resonant masculine archetypes since then.
@visakanv In Dick Schwartz's book You Are The One You've Been Waiting For, where he applies his IFS framework to relationships, he points out that people are freaked out towards the parts of themselves they've repressed, and respond to other peoples' unrepressed versions w the same energy.
@xuenay @meditationstuff your tweet just reminded me of this ridiculous song which says the same thing in a rather extended but not particularly elaborated way 😆 youtube.com/watch?v=wBAE0W…
@meditationstuff Ahh this also resonates:
@meditationstuff As does @ben_r_hoffman's response to @meditationstuff articulating "[in-scene] switch" as "(a) active, investigative non-disgust + (b) receptive surrender"
@meditationstuff @ben_r_hoffman This whole thing, relatedly, is feeling very in touch with tantric non-dual views and mutual causality (eg Joanna Macy's book Mutual Causality in Buddhism and General Systems Theory)
@arram Updates? Do you know how excited we should be? 🤩
Coherence Therapy's levels of abstraction scaffold for behavior-belief patterns: 1: symptom 2: meaning assigned to the symptom & situation 3: strategy the symptom & meaning are oriented towards (positive intent) 4: the way self/other/world must be for that strategy to be coherent
I shook some of my neurons a bit too hard and now I keep trying to type resonante when I'm thinking "resonate". Makes me think of this timeless blog post that illuminates the difference it makes to look at what *is* happening rather than what's not. 👁️ celandine13.livejournal.com/33599.html
Thinking about Nov3, and mail-in voting delays, and about how it might be strategically important to deemphasize the significance of that date. Sure, it's logistically relevant, and there will be news. But the news won't include who wins. "voting day", not "election day"
@SamHBarton @bmndr @dreev @KevinNTH Yeah great point. "Capture", as described in GTD but relevant to any workflow, is still very much an unsolved problem afaict.
Thread · Offering help to someone building a similar app · 1 of 4 tweets
Yo @dreev you might want to look into adding a few more meta tags to the beeminder blog so that the pages show up nice & pretty as twitter "cards". Can test here: cards-dev.twitter.com/validator
Formatting yesterday's meta-team tweetstorm as a doc to print and I'm struck by the building-blocks aspect of twitter so vividly, as I date each of the embedded tweets/threads. The ancient, recent, & nascent, remixed into something new. @visakanv the doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1po…
Anyone who wants to ping threadreaderapp to unroll this, I actually formatted it into a nice document, which might be even better for your purposes. docs.google.com/document/d/1po…
@mattgoldenberg @visakanv I searched gifs for "inside out" thinking I'd get some trippy klein bottle or something but then just before the results showed up I realized I was gonna get this instead 😆
@daemonhugger @mattgoldenberg @visakanv Yeah, IFS for relationships is different than FS. Involves orienting to the effect your parts have on your relationships.
Replying to @btohtoh
@btohtoh I have no idea lol
Retweeted @SarahAMcManus
Reading @Malcolm_Ocean's recent blog post, I got a strong wave of self-recognition around artificially "stacking all t…
Whoa! Subtle but significant tweak to twitter's UI. Similar to tumblr reblog, the RT button now automatically puts you in QT mode, so "pure RT" now means just hitting the send button immediately rather than typing something first. Powerful shift in default. cc @visakanv @conaw
@NokiaMobile just wanted to let you know that based on the design of this page, where the call to action says "sign up", I thought that the phone wasn't ready yet, and have been checking the page periodically for *months*. You need a "buy now" btn lol nokia.com/phones/en_int/…
Retweeted @visakanv
This memo from Donald Rumsfeld in April 2001 is quite a read (h/t @leashless)
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
If you’re willing to go deep and have practiced introspection skills, this type of sequence @AskYatharth follows is the…
a great example of what I'll call [[surrogate selfing]] = unsustainable but super-useful role where A takes on caring for all of B's parts when B is identified with one part/perspective, or otherwise unable to access Self and just feels like a collection of arguing parts
@nosilverv really well put
Replying to @nosilverv
@nosilverv @Morphenius here's another figure in internet guru space. somehow I thought you'd want to see him do his thing fun vibe & talks about circle of control (45s clip)
I would also like to see this collage—for videos of me dancing in public, that is! (I mean, I'd also like to see @nickcammarata's collage.)
@AskYatharth > surrogate self = blending in IFS? Whaaaaat? No, not at all what I mean. I mean "your Self seems to be offline, but I bring my Self energy to care for your parts".
@AskYatharth Without much exposure to IFS, I rederived Self a few months ago and it's clear to me that it is a thing. Tho my rederivation isn't intrinsically functional actually; more just that everyone necessarily has a "selfing function"—whatever system (consciousness?) organizes thoughts
@AskYatharth Afaict, both IFS Self & Core States are aspects of the right hemisphere, and the appearance that they come & go is due to increasing or decreasing awareness/consciousness of them, but still there just like stomach is there even when not thinking of it.
@nosilverv @ben_r_hoffman @Morphenius has a post which talks about something that I think = "'pure' understanding of Reason": > Math — REAL math — is the sacred art of relating to truth on your own terms, free of illusions and confusion and social pressure. free on his patreon: patreon.com/posts/wise-kno…
Retweeted @andy_matuschak
Fascinating Ostrom-inspired framing for online community governance, replacing monolithic permissions (“admins can hide…
I'm tentatively coining the term [[design bug]] to refer to a situation where the app doesn't respond in the way the user expects, even if technically the code is doing what the designer wanted it to do. eg
@SeanMombo I did mean this and the original is so confused I just deleted the tweet. Here's the new tweet:
@SeanMombo Mmm right, interesting. Glitch on 2 levels of abstraction.
Retweeted @gustavohoa
This rings true to me. I tried complice.co once, after @Conaw QT'ed a tweet in this thread. I didn't get much v…
@nosilverv @Morphenius Umm I think it's like, @Morphenius and I have just had a lot of conversations about different internet gurus and their insights & blindspots, so we have a kind of implicit shared sense of it.
@nosilverv he's got nothing on the guy who invented the 3rd & 4th construal levels tho #NicheTweet
Retweeted @utotranslucence
Ok a beef I need to clear up: Codependency (as a pathology) is not defined as ‘relying on someone else to meet some m…
@Aella_Girl I had a really bad staph infection from an insect bite the first month I was in SF (bedbugs? nobody ever found out) outpatient told me to check into emergency if red streaks. 10h later…🏥 they had to pump me full of IV antibiotics for a few days. I think ppl just used to die.
@yashkaf one part of my brain guessed "balloon" and another "cat"
Retweeted @nosilverv
Wow people really out there confusing feelings interpretations and facts and then saying their feelings are being denied whe…
@nickcammarata I've recently noticed so many situations in which I want recognition for how things are hard for me or how hard I'm trying... ...and I want that recognition from the people I'm in conflict with. That would be ideal. But it makes a huge difference to even truly give it to myself.
@nosilverv @m_ashcroft re "want it"—I have a hunch that the best coaching relationships come from client seeking out coach, not vice versa. Hard to clearly say which, but for ex, I had the idea that @Morphenius coach me & wrote a 3k word proposal, and there's so much clarity of what we're doing & why.
@nickcammarata I find the idea of "deserve", either deserving good things or deserving bad things, is broken, and I'm happier without it. I would say "being fundamentally happy is worthwhile and attainable", and not in a zero-sum way.
@nosilverv also RIGHT👏THEORIES👏MISAPPLIED👏HURT👏PEOPLE
@alt_tatsu finding myself wondering what the story is with the partner I remember you talking about with me & Sarah in spring 2019, in relation to Conscious Loving and stuff and the nature of that question is making me think of this recent article I published malcolmocean.com/2020/10/relati…
Thread · IFS applied to relationships: caretaking each other's parts · 5 of 6 tweets
You Are The One You've Been Waiting For book by Richard Schwartz, founder of Internal Family Systems theory …where he applies the theory of Self & parts, to relationships. You are your own parts' primary caretaker, and your partner is their secondary caretaker, & vv.
Really powerful book. You can find it online. Here's a PDF of the intro & chapter 1: ifsca.ca/wp-content/upl…
Here's one way to point at how "IFS applied to relationships" doesn't just turn back into the "Family Systems Therapy" idea it was based on.
Note that while some "parts" may seem very solid, it's also valuable to just orient to the momentary divisions as they're arising, without trying to pin them down over time. Though ofc notice patterns & connections.
And the most meaningful move is a meta-one, which is taking the stance that you care about all of your parts and all of your partner's parts, not just the ones you/they identify with or feel safest with. All of them.
@AskYatharth Yeah, mainstream social norms involve treating people like their professed intentions are their full deal (although if you're actually doing strategy, you secretly track parts that might betray you). Can create culture with norm of "support all parts"
Thread · IFS applied to relationships: caretaking each other's parts · 1 of 6 tweets
This is a bit norm-breaking, but if you're the kind of person who reads my threads and wants to do this yourself, let's face it: you want to be in relationships (romantic or business) with people who also want to live like this.
@AskYatharth Creating such a culture works by bootstrapping a meta-modern approach to norms…
@AskYatharth because otherwise you're throwing a bunch of shoulds at nonshoulding
@AskYatharth goddamnit I swear I saw the perfect tweet to QT here, literally today... that was saying something like "the reason people are resistant to noncoercive motivation is they think they're supposed to coerce themselves to do it" tagging @nosilverv, @mattgoldenberg, @reasonisfun
@mattgoldenberg Mmmm this thread of yours resonates with this one of mine!
Thread · Fractional second-person pronouns and non-reified parts work · 1 of 17 tweets
Realizing that this thread of @mattgoldenberg's from the week before, is very relevant/resonant. I guess I had read it at the time (and it maybe inspired stuff?) though I'd forgotten about it by the time I wrote this one.
Wow. Edit videos & audio by editing their transcripts. Can even correct misspeaks. I pitched an idea kinda like this when I lived at the @UWVelocity rez back in 2012, but didn't remotely have the means to pull it off (not sure anyone could've in 2012, tbh, given available tech).
"In order to be somebody's peer, you need to be able to peer through them, and allow them to peer through you." — John Vervaeke, as quoted (maybe paraphrased) by @peternlimberg
Turns out I'm pretty good at understanding people when I feel motivated to do so, and I'm pretty motivated to do so when it feels safe.
No matter how delightful or dull my outfit, I always feel a little more like a protagonist when I arrive at a busy street and all the cars are such that I have a narrow window to cross without rushing, slowing, or breaking stride.
Realizing that this is somewhat true on all scales, not just brainparts—individual humans and human cultures too. The difference being those can be snuffed out altogether whereas a brain just gets tangled trying to suppress itself. (tho karma points at global scale tangle)
Anyway, the "snuffed out altogether" thing I think speaks to the evilness of evil, as articulated beautifully by James Carse:
@mattgoldenberg @AskYatharth @nosilverv @reasonisfun Yes! That was the one.
Retweeted @mattgoldenberg
Ohhh, I just realized that most of the pushback against non-coercion is that people feel like they're being coerced int…
Replying to @killerswan
@killerswan Hmm I think I resonate with you here, though there are too many ways for Truth itself to be weaponized for me to just sign off on this articulation.
I'm still integrating this, and having a great time doing so. Vastly deepening sense of self-love and not *having* to integrate anything in order to be okay, but also wanting to integrate things because integration feels good.
Retweeted @mattgoldenberg
1/Let's talk a little bit about oscillating motivation, shadow values, non-coercion, and the problem of revolving produ…
Replying to @diviaprocessing
@diviaprocessing maybe you need a shared alt where even in principle there's not really any way someone could prove it was you who tweeted it not any of a dozen other people
Thinking about this again as I see many people go "can't RT anymore? 😮" Took me all of 2s to guess at what had happened and just push the button with an empty QT, and yes, sure enough it retweets.
Walking toward ~4yo & parent on sidewalk. Kid on little pushcar, won't move. I thought maybe power struggle? I wave to parent as I move onto road to pass, and he starts moving. Mom: "he's a stickler for social distancing - that's all he knows!"
There's a real thing people mean when they say "it doesn't feel safe to have this conversation" even when there's not a serious concern about physical danger or even like "verbal abuse". What do you think that thing is? (I have a rough model; curious to hear others')
Wtf, @SlackHQ sometimes sends desktop notifications about *my own messages*, that I sent *days ago*. Seems to happen shortly after I open the channel, then change to a different tab. Not necessarily most recent message, either. In this case was one that the other person had 👍'd
I'm really hampered by not being able to find the set of hooks I usually hang up my hoodies on.
Hmm... who in the #roamcult would like to have a thing where @RoamResearch would auto-link certain pages after you type them as unlinked references. Could maybe be done via an autolink:: attribute on the page. 😮 Could even use this for aliases!!
How it would work for aliases: Say I have a page [[Conor White-Sullivan]] and on that page I have: autolink:: Conor White-Sullivan autolink:: Conor then if I typed a block somewhere "call w Conor", as soon as it rendered it'd become "call w [Conor]([[Conor White-Sullivan]])"
@renormalized Ooh! different dimension than I had in mind but this is also a great point.
@una_phd_adhd @RoamResearch No! Though I also don't want it to autolink everything necessarily.
Replying to @BracewellMr
@BracewellMr @pozorvlak Yeah I mean atm they are currently trying to actively discourage retweeting, to introduce friction leading up to the election. So in the absence of introducing explicit friction, which people would hate in a completely different way, they're kind of just obscuring the option.
@AskYatharth @reasonisfun @CountJ0ecool @nosilverv Not sure what's being said here but I experience caution towards it in relation to any social stuff. Important that people not feel that their perception or preference is invalid unless it can justify itself. Encourages rationalization & bullshitting, not clearer of perc/pref.
"The improviser has to realise that the more obvious he is, the more original he appears." "An artist who is inspired is being obvious." — Impro by Keith Johnstone
@GradientAssent I think longer term aliases will need to work differently, so this is mostly just like, a short-term way to alleviate some of the problems that aliases will solve in the long-term.
@daemonhugger @vgr there were a ton of fanboys there when KJ was on thestoa.ca a couple weeks ago
hot take: utilize means "to make into a utility"
@mechanicalmonk1 @nosilverv dat passive income
@nickcammarata Yeah, the number of bank fees you can get out of by explaining to your bank that you don't want to pay them is in my experience quite a few, provided they like you.
@m_ashcroft Can't quite vote. I do coaching: "business coaching" or "productivity coaching" or "life coaching". Most of my clients come from my writing or from people using complice.co and saying "hey, can you offer some 1-on-1 help?" Great—I don't want to compete on marketing.
@m_ashcroft Being good at coaching and being good at marketing are loosely correlated but not very. Need to understand problem enough for prospect to feel like you GET them, but that's no guarantee you can solve it. Could even be grifter, who feeds on problem itself.
@m_ashcroft @Kirsten3531 @GeniesLoki I am extremely extremely opposed to requiring regulation/accreditation for this stuff. We need it for some things, but there should be arenas with no regulation, and "coaching" is de facto that arena atm because "therapy" is not.
@joelbot3000 Nah, I was saying something completely different, which is that *basic schooling* trains away *everyone's* self-trust, which means that people can't tell when people are abusing them because they're conditioned to a background level of abuse from school.
@m_ashcroft @Kirsten3531 @GeniesLoki Here's my rant about how this is fucky with therapy. I don't want to see this shit happen to "coaching".
Meant to link this earlier but twitter search was down: a rant about how the concept of "therapy" is borked in an almost motte-bailey sort of way.
@harveykrishna_ > but I promise it won’t be as bad as you think and you’ll feel a lot better and proud of yourself once it’s done, and I’m here to hold your hand the whole way through it I think it's worth noting sometimes you can't promise this, and the part has something important to say.
@harveykrishna_ I've definitely seen multiple people fuck up their self-trust by making promises like this, either very explicitly or even just on a background emotional level. To a lesser extent, the stance of "hope" is such a promise, compared to ~courage.
@harveykrishna_ Had an internal exchange recently… A: "am I not doing a good job? is this not working?" B: "I KNOW I'm doing good work" Self: wait, B, you're arguing with A… can we dialogue? A: "I'm scared." B: "I hear you're scared. I feel like we've got this. And I wanna see what you see!"
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@harveykrishna_ Had an internal exchange recently… A: "am I not doing a good job? is this not working?" B: "I KNOW I'm…
@nosilverv @mechanicalmonk1 I mean, I can work just a few hours a week on @CompliceGoals (or even none, although users don't like it if their supportmail goes unanswered). Could hire someone for that although that would diminish ux too. I like designing & coding though so I usually work more like 8-20h.
@nosilverv @mechanicalmonk1 @CompliceGoals Plus since it's my own biz I can work however/whenever I want. So typically I try to have one hyperfocus coding day/week where I work like 8am-midnight, then otherwise just answer support mail. Having to work on 1 thing all day sucks. *Getting* to work on 1 thing all day rocks.
@nickcammarata You might like this interview of Solomon Shapiro by @lexfridman. I only watched the middle hour or so iirc, which is what a friend recommended. Really rich stuff—nuanced views. He's the sequel to Ernst Becker's The Denial of Death. youtube.com/watch?v=qfKyNx…
Retweeted @random_walker
This is what happens when algorithms optimize metrics. The click through rate for ads is infinitesimal. So if even 0.1%…
noice, just found this meta-okayness song! okay I mean it's a pretty flat pop song, but it's good that this message is out there: youtube.com/watch?v=SXGMWu…
Thread · Google's new logos and why they're worse · 1 of 5 tweets
Yep, I already hate how indistinct the fucking gmail logo is. Even among a bunch of white and black and blue logos, it's still much harder to pick out than the old classic red & white one. Don't fix what isn't broken, guys.
Retweeted @nosilverv
So, sharing the following (with permission) because its so perfect its basically a VIGNETTE for how inner work goes when it…
@mechanicalmonk1 Right, like I said in the original tweet. They have more designers on the team than they have useful work for.
@maxwschulz @nickcammarata @lexfridman No, I haven't! Still taking it slow wrt this death stuff myself :)
@TylerAlterman The number of times that people have wished upon me specifically that I get punched in the face specifically, is oddly high. Not huge but at least 3, maybe 4. (whereas I've never heard anyone speculate about me getting punched in the gut or other body parts, for instance)
Thread · Annoying traits in loved ones as their self-care · 2 of 5 tweets
An underappreciated implication of things like Core Transformation is that if you generalize it to other people, you realize… …the things your loved ones do that annoy you most are often precisely the ways in which they're most reliably able to care for themselves.
For me, sensing this even at a really high level, even if I don't fully understand the nature of the integrity that is driving the annoying pattern, profoundly transforms my experience of relating with people, and gives me way more space to understand their experience.
@chriswaterguy I mean it's not bad... for a pop song.
@DevinHaran @GrahamDuncanNYC Oh man this resonates so much with a vision I articulated last week, which is basically building organizations where each person is plugged into that energy in relation to their work!
Thread · Finding people who'd love the parts of your dream you don't · 1 of 6 tweets
@GrahamDuncanNYC gets it.
brb, working on a userscript to restore the old logos
Thread · Google's new logos and why they're worse · 1 of 5 tweets
Of course, me being me, I can't tolerate this bullshit for very long, so now I have a little userscript that sets the icons back to what they were before. gist.github.com/malcolmocean/d…
Done. Not perfect but enough that I'm not annoyed anymore.
If you like that favicon userscript, you might also like this one, which gets rid of the offensive red dot in the twitter favicon. I seriously can't believe it's legal to put that shit in there and that people put up with it. Ridiculous.
@magicianbrain + @AyeGill the userscript exists (@-mentioning you guys since you liked the tweet)
Replying to @AellaPrivate
@AellaPrivate yeah not your edgiest. have had a similar thought myself, though ultimately I think it's not so simple. some people *do* have "irrational fear of" these things, and that's real and needs compassion like other phobias then some people, fearful or not, have hatred
Replying to @m_altcroft
@m_altcroft Oooh nice, what product? I've been a DevaCurl guy for nearly a decade.
@nosilverv no way to not have problems but you can have more interesting problems
Replying to @Cam39Porter
@Cam39Porter @david_perell I kind of agree, *and* there's also a sense in which we're such social creatures that we're socializing even when we're alone. I sometimes have a drink while writing, and it feels very social.
@fredericl I made a userscript to fix this.
@nosilverv Not sure it's not just this
@nosilverv Anyway I fixed this
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
Make Your Own Damn Mental Models tasshin.com/blog/make-your…
@tasshinfogleman @SarahAMcManus
Retweeted @meditationstuff
All problems of willpower are better reframed as a crisis of not knowing an immediately recognizable, straightforwardl…
Retweeted @PeterBorah
@meditationstuff Somewhat orthogonal to your point, but: I think if you _always_ do anything, that's already a mistake. I…
@PeterBorah @meditationstuff yeah, if you only have one type of solution, you'll get stuck much earlier and more boringly
gato gato paragato parasamgato bodhi svaha
Me to @SarahAMcManus, re her mentioning "sticker room art installation" "There's also like a prank where you cover someone's entire cubicle with sticky notes… …of course the worse prank is having to work in a cubicle. Like, you got punked pretty hard by that one, buddy."
Should you reverse any advice you hear from your past self?
me: "chop wood, carry water" as a cope @SarahAMcManus: fuck I feel so called out
I have been doing the hokey-pokey for practically my whole life, and I just realized I still don't actually know what it's all about.
Hot take: most people skills that you or other people appear to lack are shaped way more like this than they are like actual unskilledness. Trying to upskill in such situations is mostly left hemisphere goodharting and is usually the opposite of progress.
@m_ashcroft @tallowqueen I've been using DevaCurl for like 8-10 years and have never had that issue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ...curls still thick af. Though I bought some really big containers and I use it slowly, so if it was only an issue for like a year then I might have missed that entirely.
Retweeted @utotranslucence
@skybrian The problem (and this is what I was scratching at before) is that I want two separate words for: Two atomic…
@SarahAMcManus @_StevenFan yep
Replying to @selentelechia
"If I go into the place in myself that is love, and you go into the place in yourself that is love, we are together in love. Then you and I are truly in love, the state of being love." — Ram Dass
@visakanv Making further progress on this song! Very very gradual. I have 3 decent verses, with a feel that the song wants 1-3 more, though it's already long, like 4:45. Slow song. But Leonard Cohen's Anthem is an appropriate reference class, so we're good.
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia Hmmmm seems to me it's possible, though unusual, to feel love towards someone without objectifying them but might involve a very different vibe of love than usual meanings
@daemonhugger @garybasin @nnnnicholas @aaronzlewis there were a bunch of lifestyle bloggers back in the day - some of my inspirations, such as Leo Babauta of ZenHabits. and ofc @tferriss' "Four Hour Work Week" was for him originally a supplement-selling business. both way harder and way easier to do that sort of thing now
@xuenay @mattgoldenberg Mmm nice. I went through a similar progression in some ways and I feel like I'm tasting a step further which is something like "the issue ppl have is they try to use self-modification techniques they don't have full buy-in for, and so resisting parts stop them from using those."
@xuenay @mattgoldenberg And then the resolution goes something like, instead of intending to do "IDC" or whatever else, orienting to a stance of intending to do more like "whatever it takes to have an internal dialogue here that integrates all objections thoroughly and doesn't dismiss or discount any"
@xuenay @mattgoldenberg Worth noting: my articulation above is coming out backwards from how I experienced it: I tasted something that felt like this thing, and then had immediate buy-in from all of my parts to iterate on the thing until it became capable of integrating all of them *in their own terms*
@xuenay @mattgoldenberg And the act of trying and iterating, in such a way, is kind of the thing.
@mattgoldenberg @xuenay @m_ashcroft > recognizing that the parts are being unreasonable fascinating. 1 of the vital tenets of the system I've been using incredibly effectively for the last few months is something like "parts are NEVER unreasonable" (challenge is to figure out how that's so)
Thread · Annoying traits in loved ones as their self-care · 1 of 5 tweets
Also, it must be said over and over: this does NOT mean you're supposed to LIKE the annoying thing the other person is doing. That interpretation of what I've said above is another endemic confusion, like this one:
@RealMackenzieL Years of life ≠ free! I know lots of orgs require hoop-jumping, but does your dream situation? You only need one workable situation. If I were you, I'd eg seek to become a "homeschooler" for a few people at the leading edge of culture etc. medium.com/@memetic007/a-…
@RealMackenzieL I got on your profile via this reply of yours to one of my tweets I was revisiting. No Bachelors of Education I'm aware of has anything useful to say about how much almost all schooling actively contributes to the self-doubt you're worried about here:
Thread · Why parts are never unreasonable, only differently framed
Matt's talking about coherence therapy here, kind of in relation to addiction/trauma, as I understand it. I want to start by thanking him for being my "someone wrong on the internet" today and motivating me to write up this thread ❣️
> recognizing that the parts are being unreasonable Fascinating. A vital tenet of the epic meta-system I've been developing for the last few months is something like "parts are NEVER unreasonable". And this seems core to Coherence Therapy to me.
Saying "unreasonable" seems to me to assert a kind of dominance, of the experience+frame of whoever's saying it, which makes it harder to see what's going on for the part! (I keep wanting to use the term "hegemonic" here. Or "privileging the frame h̵y̵p̵o̵t̵h̵e̵s̵i̵s̵")
Every part is acting 100% reasonably, within its frame. Its frame may be, in some sense, narrow or irrelevant or confused—and it's important to notice if you think so—but good luck having a dialogue with any entity whose frame you disrespect.
And a core finding of memory reconsolidation is that arguing with your parts Does. Not. Work. Well, doesn't work for integration. It can effectively suppress some knowing—you can get appearance of consensus by shocking whoever pushes the veto button.
So dialogue is necessary—whether verbal or not. (By "dialogue" I'm referring to a kind of stance that's the opposite of arguing, where you neither privilege your own frame, nor simply surrender it either. Kind of the top half of this 2×2.)
In original context, @mattgoldenberg says "not all parts can be reasoned with". In narrow sense of the word "reason", I think some parts are "un-reason-able". But their stubbornness is actually deeply sensible, as opposed to being made out of unreason.
"Unreasonable", perhaps, in practice, means "refuses to talk with me how I want to be talked with". In this sense, from the unreasonable part's perspective, you're also being unreasonable! So the puzzle, w/ parts or ppl, is to find a way to dialogue that satisfies BOTH parties.
Agents have a tendency to try to drag other agents into their own frame in order to have conversations, because there's a huge home turf advantage. Meanwhile, agents also resist such drags for the same reason! This, on all fractal scales:
To some extent, I'm even doing that here! Look at me defining "unreasonable" in this uncharitable way. Am I really trying to dialogue with Matt, or score points or something? 🤔😂🙃
Fwiw, I myself held the very confusion I'm trying to illuminate here, til about 4mo ago. So this is in some ways me trying to point something out to past me and people in a similar situation. I'm not sure this thread would have worked for that! But might help someone. Lmk.
So yeah: any person, or part, that thinks other parts are being unreasonable is also a part and (within its frame) is being totally reasonable in holding it that way. So one can't simply decide to not see it that way. As always, must integrate the purpose of seeing it that way.
Personally, I've worked with a few resistances to this idea, including helpless rage when people like @reasonisfun would say things like "all behavior has reasons". One associated w traumatic pseudomemory of my pain getting dismissed bc other person's behavior must have reason 😬
For me, thinking about it in terms of "coherence" rather than "reason" helped tons. Sounded less like justification? Maybe just didn't trigger the association. Who knows. Anyway, turns out the coherence underlying apparent dysfunction is actually deeply reassuring to me.
So find what works for you 🥰 Will probably start with getting a sense of the meaning & integrity of all of your own behavior, via eg Core Transformation. Then generalize. You'll know you've hit on the same kinda thing if it has this sort of effect:
Helping my own parts see this (and integrate it with their existing knowings) and helping other people see this (and learn from them how my own frame is yet too narrow) is one of my top priorities at the moment 🤩🚀 Another: (on a diff abstraction level)
@mattgoldenberg @xuenay @m_ashcroft Turned this into a whole thread!
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Another clarification, re > the things your loved ones do that annoy you most are often precisely the ways in which they're most reliably able to care for themselves. This doesn't mean their care in this domain is effective, to be clear. Just that it is intense and sacred.
@RealMackenzieL I just wrote a thread and part of that thread is pointing at something that feels relevant to what I'm trying to say here. Something about the stance required for non-traumatizing education.
@nibrasibn hello! I snoozed this tweet for a month to come back and reply to it and remind you about it ☺️
@captain_mrs The reason I'm using "agents" and not parts is because this happens on all scales, eg • interpersonally, between individual people • politically, between memeplexes Regarding mental modules, I don't strictly call them anything in particular.
@captain_mrs And this goes down way smaller to what IFS folks would call "parts": I aim to take a stance towards every little thought where I regard it with respect/honor/sacredness. There's a sense in which you can model the whole brain as being kind of agenty. meltingasphalt.com/neurons-gone-w…
@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg Hmmm, appreciating your guys' perspectives here. I guess I'm recognizing that I haven't done much work on like... chemical addictions, using these kinds of coherence techniques! Although I had many things I used to treat as being addiction-like and that didn't work at all.
@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg I think it's still possible to orient towards a misfiring brain system with respect or disrespect, and with an orientation that sees it as orderly vs simply disorderly. And I would expect that to be a difference that makes a difference.
@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg To take a sort of extreme example, if someone with dementia wanders into the woods, that's not senseless—there's still something going on in them that generated wandering into the woods as opposed to into the neighbor's house. Impairment but not chaos.
@pjeby @xuenay @mattgoldenberg And barring like, a stroke, your brain usually isn't firing in a *random* way. So "misfiring" still sort of feels weird to me, because it focuses on what it's not doing, vs what it's doing. Reminds me of this classic essay: celandine13.livejournal.com/33599.html
Great articulation. I feel like I've sort of been doing a hybrid thing, that is orienting with immense love towards each part (tbh, each *thought*) but not reifying any of them into particular roles or identities.
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Vague feeling I'm starting to develop the underlying mechanism beneath perfect pitch. I kickstarted a little music device called @Artiphon Orba, and the 2 times I have reached for it to jam with a song, turns out the song is in the right key (C or Am) twitter.com/tenderlash/sta…
😂 Forgot I wrote this: > no wrong notes, just… notes that take a bit more ummm explaining to do if someone walks in on you.
Usually I would lean over and play on my 🎹 keyboard instead, which is part of what's interesting about this. Here's an older thread about some playing around with this kind of key stuff:
@magicianbrain @pjeby +100 to this. Very glad you pointed it out. I think it's a fun frame to try on playfully, and not worry about too much. And I guess, to hold it all within like... suppose this is true of me? What can I learn from that, in its specifics, without feeling self-distrust?
@magicianbrain @pjeby And it's funny timing for me lol because I just connected with a Coherence Therapist this month, and very specifically sought out that form of therapy (though more because I wanted to understand it better than because I thought it was what my problems particularly needed.)
@mattgoldenberg @Artiphon Like if I could make an online course for it? Hmm… Not at all confident I have anything generalized that I could deliver here, but if someone wants to bet w me on this, I'd be happy to try to coach you through the same process.
@mattgoldenberg @Artiphon Main instruction is: spend 100s of hrs "jamming with experts" which is Victor Wooten's description of how to learn a language natively. That's how babies learn their native language. For music, that means, put on songs and play along. A lot. (And no wrong notes.)
Yeah this feeling hasn't persisted consistently, but I definitely have had more of it the last few weeks than for most of the last few years. This is exciting.
This is part of the context of this current arc for me. I have a sense of assembling an emergent distributed self-organizing meta-team.
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