yo @getclearspace this song is basically your anthem 😂 youtube.com/watch?v=ol3TZh…
May 2023
this famous painting (I've seen it multiple places over the years as a header/background image) is called Wanderer above the Sea of Fog I didn't notice until I read the title that he's looking out from a mountain at a landscape, not from some rocks at a stormy sea
(context for other people: clearspace is an app for chilling out phone addiction, that has been doing fun experiments like this) blog.getclearspace.com/we-ran-a-phone…
@tasshinfogleman I have mediocre visualization but quite detailed spatialization (ability to mentally consider shapes) eg if I "picture" the view out my window, I have a sense of the shapes & sizes of the hills and houses, but very little sense of the colors of them
tfw you can't decide where you are on the alignment chart
note to self: in different ways, both liquid democracy and convergent facilitation nurture the experience of "I can trust that someone else is tracking what matters to me, so I can relax"
Retweeted @RichDecibels
I'm a bit obsessed with @Plinz's reframe of Aquinas' 3 divine virtues 1. faith: take your place as a part of a higher-le…
@RichDecibels @Plinz there's a missing piece... something about curiosity, willingness to find win-wins & build common-ground something about a loving interface with those-who-you-can't-yet-recognize-as-also-part otherwise holy war @RomeoStevens76 this whole thing is related to supercoordination
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
hello i wrote a "date me page", normally i would not request this but please distribute far and wide to the most eligible…
my contribution to the ongoing "unfucking ourselves and each other from the contortions we thought would help save the world" conversation (inspired by @QiaochuYuan & others) link in next tweet
blog link: "confronting & forgiving the people who instilled fear in my heart" malcolmocean.com/2023/05/confro…
> Esther Perel says, “you can tell [your PTSD-flashbacking partner] ‘you’re safe now’” & I found myself thinking “that’s not okay. I can’t feel that I’m safe in this moment. AI could eat the world, and I’m not doing enough about it. I can’t feel safe until we’ve figured it out.”
it's improbable that all the paths are rocky, it's likelier that you have a rock in your shoe
@visakanv my first thought here, which it doesn't look like you say quite so explicitly in the thread... ...is that you're now finding yourself weirdly constrained to only talk about what ~2016-visa could influence, even though your sphere of influence is actually much larger now
Retweeted @aleksil79
if you believe the body to be an inert lump of flesh, your body may oblige and give you its best inert-lump-of-flesh impress…
@aleksil79 😚👌
@TylerAlterman I also got a "sorry that page is missing" but then it loaded underneath that anyway
@madmaxbr5 @mayfer the difference between "can do" and "can do for an affordable price" is larger than the difference between "can't do" and "can do [but in practice won't]"
Retweeted @AskYatharth
depression and anxiety are like fevers we spend years directly treating for
@phokarlsson @visakanv bahahahaha I was like "I have thought a lot about this" and like yup, turns out it's riffing on me
@phokarlsson @visakanv where does it show up in visa's writing? I didn't find it
someone rebooted the simulation hypothesis as a case for god @conaw this seems like your sort of thing new-god-argument.com
@ESYudkowsky afaict most people's beef with capitalism is largely downstream of the fact that owning capital lets you buy land then have it protected for much less than that fee would cost in any reasonable economy
Retweeted @CompliceGoals
making the app more mature and focused in its use of color spot the differences (there are 5)
@QiaochuYuan fuck yeah and my pleasure—really
so hard to figure out what pronouns to use while tweeting • you can use the general/audience "you" • but I sometimes feel I want to own that I'm speaking about my own experience & patterns • some people do their tweets in third person • one can say "one" but who does that?
in this recent post I explored writing about a reconciliation conversation I'd had, with myself as I and that person as "you". it was initially an experiment but I found something oddly potent about it
I'm drafting some tweets right now about common dynamics, and the first tweet began with "people [they] do this thing. when they do this thing to you, stuff" then in the second tweet I jumped to "if you do this thing to someone, stuff"
it's very rich in all renditions maybe I'll just tweet it each way? including also rendering it with myself as the doer or done-to although that's 9 options if I literally want all combos, fuck ([I, you, them]²)
hey! that pattern of mine you're calling "bullshit" is a coping mechanism carefully evolved & honed over many decades of human interaction. show it some respect! 😤
Replying to @BrennanColberg
@BrennanColberg it is, tho Iain McGilchrist's brain hemisphere work is more accurate!
@BrennanColberg and The Snake Cult of Consciousness is another fascinating take on the question (and much shorter to read)
@arjunkhemani oh wow yeah that book definitely impacted me a lot well before I'd opened it
Replying to @TetraspaceWest
@TetraspaceWest @undo_hubris yeah I was also confused when I saw this so close to being so potent
@robertskmiles looks like that was maybe just one short story among 10
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance I'm (ongoingly) confused by how to integrate the truth of what you're saying here with the dream mashups thing; the idea that our experience is in some sense constantly a projection (even if we're experiencing nonduality / nonattachment to it)
update: "attest" seems to be basically the word we're looking for, without the protests-too-much feel of "testify" though it often refers to signing off on something already uttered, not to utter it in the first place
@Morphenius this is relevant to some of your recent investigations, related to certain feelings people seem to be structurally avoiding
Thread · Seeing through someone's mask isn't a license to be a jerk
lots of people think that if you can see through someone's mask, that gives you a license to be a jerk about it fun fact: anyone being a jerk about such things isn't seeing clearly. they're seeing *something*, but not the whole picture
recognizing this pattern feels like it's empowering me, in a very simple way, to refuse to engage with someone who wants to poke at me with insufficient considerateness "I'm sure you have something important to say, but calling me 'fake' isn't gonna get it across."
someone pointing out something you're studiously avoiding creates a weird pressure—a mix of curiosity and defensiveness a sign (to me) to go slowly and care-fully among growthy communities, it's common for there to be pressure to dive headlong in
non-exhaustive list of reasons people hurt themselves on feedback they don't understand: - they're desperate for any feedback at all (perhaps from a fear of hurting others) - they're desperate for (your) attention - they think it's noble to let people cut them with verbal blades
it's common to talk about "cutting through spiritual materialism". circlers talk about "drawing blood". violent metaphors riffing, perhaps, on Lakoff... I prefer to see it as a dance malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…
to be clear, by "being a jerk" here I don't quite mean "being cruel", in the sadistic sense I mean "communicating in ways that jerk people around" even me using the term "jerk" is probably an instance of the phenomenon I'm decrying here
but perhaps I *am* talking about indulging in the power that you have in a situation where you can see something someone else can't but it's a kind of crude power, and one that's easy to cause messes with in the name of "helping" someone
just because you can predict someone's pattern doesn't mean you actually understand it in its own terms
you may feel the need to name some bs that's going on, for your sanity or for onlookers' but don't fool yourself into thinking that just because you've named something, you're actually attempting (let alone succeeding) at communicating it
Retweeted @nosilverv
100% bet, without knowing you, that ~ all of your guilt and shame are NOT based on rational evaluation of your actions and t…
@sndwv_ sounds like you're who, if who does that
@TylerAlterman many the first that comes to mind (and one of my earliest memories of such, from high school) is youtube.com/watch?v=uam83B…
@TylerAlterman "Songs To Sob To"
@the_wilderless I made this observation yesterday and your tweet prompted me to write up a whole thread about it seems like a pretty similar phenomenon, at different scales
it takes courage to become courageous
if I ran a social media app, instead of a Follow button it would have a Listen button
"X symbolizes Y" yes, but X never symbolizes only Y although we can agree for awhile to play in a world where it does (mathematics being an extreme case of this)
The deaf leading the blind men and the elephant in the room where it happens all the time.
currently drafting a Template for How To Gently Blindly Touch the Elephant In the Room Together based on my Non-Naive Trust Dance stuff lmk if you'd like to alpha-test it!
correction: it has come to my attention that not literally everybody is doing this, just me.
one way to translate buddhism's 3 marks of existence (no-self, unsatisfactoriness, impermanence) is the wisdom that all 3 words in "I Win Forever" are confused from @RomeoStevens76
wow, @Patreon made itself so much worse no way to see how much creators are making total anymore (such helpful situational awareness!) and it's harder to see the different pledge tiers wtf guys?
@attempter_magus @Patreon I think it was opt out it used to be visible for most creators tho you had to click a few times to find it (and they made it harder over time) now I haven't seen it for several creators, including some who used to have it shown
Thread · A template for naming what someone might deny or deflect · 1 of 4 tweets
me: nobody wants to alpha-test my template ☹️ Jess: you need to be more clear what it's about: "how to give feedback to somebody about something that you're noticing going on for them, where you suspect that if you try to acknowledge it they'll get defensive/evasive & deny it"
Art & Fear feels like one of the most @visakanv books I've ever read just the pages below contain: - the pain of not being understood - do 100 things - the importance of scenius
@visakanv @1000wordvomits woaaaaaah huh I heard the pottery class anecdote when I was like a preteen. I thought it might be apocryphal though—had no idea where it was from.
I started a document called Questions I Have About the Evolution of Consciousness which so far only has a couple questions in it (tho I have lots) but already contains enough Sources (texts etc) that it could make a curriculum. now plotting re Oceanic College cc @AskYatharth
god grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, the wisdom to know the difference, the humility to remember I can't always know the difference, and the love to accept myself and my choices anyway
magical buttons are deranged genies. don't press them even if they're guaranteed to give you want you want. the process of getting what you want is one of discovery and learning, and you can't skip that without going insane
spaces where we don't have to ask for permission because we trust our own attunement and each other's responses enough to navigate freely
ooooh serendipity engine
hmmm what if I pairwise considered all of my single friends to guess who might be soulmates
most communication problems amount to being unable to reliably say AND mean AND have received/trusted: 1. "I need something" 2. "I'm fine (and I'd let you know if I needed something)" [something], eg: space help to pee/drink/eat to slow down to understand to be understood
it's hard to be fully expressive around other people because unless you've built up a lot of trust, fully vocalizing your frustration will produce an excess of concern from them that'll be difficult to dispel
relatedly, if you're in a conversation, you can't be fully responsive if you don't trust what will happen if you go "huh" & the other person says "what was that?" & you say "not relevant" & they don't trust that you're not hiding something then you weren't 100% free to "huh"!
"The right goal is not consensus but resonance. A collective experience of the truth. When consensus-driven decision-making works, it’s because it does this." — @davidrsauvage
I just came across this quote again while re-reading this blog post in which I respond to a podcast episode in which he said it. @Morphenius — quote & post & podcast all relevant to stuff we're on about malcolmocean.com/2022/10/sauvag…
I'm reflecting on how repeating a phrase can make it more meaningful or less meaningful and how tantra is sometimes called mantrayana and in order to be ready to practice it, you need to recognize deeply that meanings are empty
just found out that supposedly Jeff Buckley said he hoped Leonard Cohen never hears his version of Hallelujah, because “it sounds more like a boy singing it.” (from a documentary about Cohen's life & music which this article says is good!) forward.com/culture/475313…
any ideas how to express "and/or" without using a slash? slash usually replaces "or", but "and or or" is fckn dumb 😂
@diviacaroline not sure if it works but I hadn't actually specifically thought of it, so thanks!
@forthrighter jalopy is a bulbous bouffant word youtube.com/watch?v=0uuCNA…
"...and you're tracking 100 different perspectives that are going to read this" "at least! it's 100 only if all 100 people are fully integrated" 😂
"In times of profound change, the learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." — Eric Hoffer
tiny challenge: make up a new oddly specific therapeutic practice eg goat yoga eg at breakfast today we came up with: churning = gently whacking your muscles with a large roll of Amish butter
If your complaint is that someone is not doing something they also wish they were doing, the correct response is not criticism but encouragement.
if I ran an airport I'd have a guy whose job it would be to fly around to all the other airports and take notes on the best design practices eg SFO has a lovely water-filling station just past security — duh!
dereificationism
tag yourself I'm left column, third from top
I want Spotify playlists that are semi-collaborative, where my friends can submit pull requests to my playlists (but can't edit them directly) cc @psobot
whaaaaatthefuck
new move just dropped: if a voice call has reached natural stopping time in terms of external world (eg walk has arrived, time for lunch) but has internal momentum hang up then negotiate via text about whether to call again rn
finally opened my vibecamp tarot deck and drew one exploratory card: Page of Cups I guess I'm gonna keep at it then!
@nosilverv what are the four equations / what video is this from?
@captain_mrs the way the guy laughs and the percussion is synced with his mouth not his abs like wtf
@puheenix ooh nice, very coherent
@visakanv amazing also wayfinding dept is based
source: a random scrap of note paper @utotranslucence was writing on
@sokindling yeah, it's not always possible there are lots of ways to reassure also emphasize seeing what's working well & what's improving, over highlighting how it's not complete yet
@AskYatharth iykykaidk
Retweeted @meekaale
me: I assume that with just a bit of clever programming involving vector embeddings and graph databases, I can easily find th…
@meekaale amazing 10/10 might be able to approximate it tho! that's in some sense what a lot of automation is
@mayfer works but sounds awful on my computer, weirdly narrow (string groups overlap) on my android but it sounds nice
@the_wilderless @nickcammarata @sashachapin I'm basically down for everything but astrology and numerology at this point I'm fine with our perception being way more powerful than we understand, & random divination, but the idea that the answers to what's going on on earth are in clockwork sky patterns... yuck
@AskYatharth yeah for most places signatures matter you also need a witness
Thread · The unnamed god of coordination, opposite of Moloch · 1 of 5 tweets
the god of coordination 0. exists 1. has no name 2. *can't* be named because any name would get co-opted by people trying to cheaply signal trustworthiness 3. having said that: "the dao", "love", "meta-protocol & as with Moloch, more key than naming it is helping people See it
@RhysLindmark I took a 20min walk to ponder your Q. here's a few answers:
@RhysLindmark @sonyasupposedly @mill_aron @Liv_Boeree whoa fascinating. I've been thinking lots about win-win dynamics, would love to contribute!
@lisatomic5 uhhh I think it probably defends but connotationally "bubble" implies a kind of naiveté but they might not be saying "befriend lower-IQ people" but rather "stop generalizing about "people" in ways that don't apply to the other 95% of the population"
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"connotationally" is a word
@stephlepp @cekaur yeah, can't change them directly by choosing, but you can evolve them in contact with the world (usually called "learning")
@stephlepp in some sense every goal is a strategy for some higher-level or more basic goal so people change goals all the time, consciously and unconsciously, when they notice a better way to achieve the goals their goals were part of (or notice it's not worth it and decide not to bother)
@stephlepp higher-level goal, eg "fix this bug" in service of "my company is thriving" more basic goal eg "have my company be thriving" in service of "eat"
@AgatheL_22 @__aphrodisiacs I'd be curious to know the name of the book I've been thinking a lot about how people negotiate who takes care of whom (including who they marry) without that involving a sense on either part of exploitation/burden
@OshanJarow @jonnym1ller I found that episode annoying haha even though I think I agree with the point
@OshanJarow @jonnym1ller the whole phrase "animism is normative consciousness" is terrible for conveying its own point
@ManuelKublbock @RichDecibels this article makes a great take that what was developed was recursion/self-reference via the invention of self-consciousness / the ego's discovery of itself with ego as mediator between id (animal self) and superego (social/moral expectations)
Liminal Awareness from Preconquest Consciousness ranprieur.com/readings/preco…
@OshanJarow @jonnym1ller my favorite piece on this topic tho is Preconquest Consciousness
@simpolism this guy says that actually agriculture itself was downstream of a ritual for developing self-consciousness that originally involved tripping on snake venom
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF yup, exactly
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF huhhhh I feel like criticism often implies a kind of superiority but I think I see what you're saying, that encouragement tends towards patronizing in a different sort of way maybe needs subjective-owning, like "wow, I really dig that" or something.
idea: escape room where everyone has colored goggles so they're all seeing different stuff brings a whole new dimension to collectively orienting
"Art is human; error is human; ergo, art is error. Inevitably, your work (like, uh, the preceding syllogism…) will be flawed."
sometimes blind people touching the elephant are at each others' throats sometimes a sighted person comes along & laughs & explains what's going on sometimes the sighted person assumes that just because they see the WHOLE elephant at once, THEY can see the elephant FULLY 🤦♀️🐘
wait @spotify you're telling me there's no way to say "download this podcast when I'm back on wifi?" it's either now on cell data or set a reminder to do it later?
@AnneSelke let's get on planning this! I'll DM you
pretty into Turtle Island as the name for this continent ngl
guys I finally get emptiness I was confused before but now I see it perfectly clearly and I see how it fits with everything else, and now everything makes sense ...glad to get that settled, whew.
@kcuck @Spotify there are things I like about it but yeah I have a dozen clear improvements I could make in a day eg should be able to longpress on the album art of what's playing to get the song menu, rather than reach up to the ⋮
@visakanv yeah the whole concept of "error" here is actually wrong from a god's eye view better understood as play real error is a thing tho, but is better understood as intention
@captain_mrs amazing yweiyst.github.io
@RhysLindmark @sensefulronin tagging @Morphenius in here to express something about how this meme can spread but it has to spread in a very different way than other means, and the new way of spreading IS the meme so you can't quite find a Moloch-style concept that does the job youtube.com/watch?v=NeN34r…
@sensefulronin @RhysLindmark Huh interesting! I have been intrigued by stuff Tada Hozumi has said, but overall I associate that name with some beefs/critiques I have
@sensefulronin @RhysLindmark but lmk if there's something you think would be worth me reading
@RhysLindmark yeah btw if you want my take on positive Moloch, I've written up a sketch in this blog post: malcolmocean.com/2022/05/100x-v… this is the last few paragraphs. the first ones are required to see the engine of the system tho
@AskYatharth economic answer: because new goods still do need to be made & sold, and the price of thrift store goods increases with demand for them until people adjust by buying new clothes on the margin instead
@AskYatharth that's specifically an answer to "why doesn't everyone"; if you want to know about specific reasons why specific people don't, that's a different question that I'm not gonna bother trying to answer
Retweeted @visakanv
part of how I intend to “solve” this is 1. Return to writing essays 2. Redirect intimate energy to alts but I guess the th…
@visakanv FEAST MODE
@visakanv I feel like this'll make a pretty funny one to reply-QT with later
@StupendousGrav1 I already knew that part; what I recently got was new
Replying to @JosukeApa
@JosukeApa yeah like FINALLY
@giray_arat it's connected to stories seventhgalaxy.wordpress.com/2023/02/12/glo…
@giray_arat and making it up youtube.com/watch?v=cN9jij…
@embryosophy like "north america" imsrywhat? tbh kinda cucked that english maps use that name given that's a latin word chosen by germans in reference to some italian guy's name nearly every language has a word for "turtle" & "island"; we can just use that
Replying to @jmanooch
@jmanooch huh, interesting. what do you make of (mis)Translating the Buddha? it says some similar things as Nick (emphasizing phenomenology) but with more citations and more answering the Q of "why Pali?" neuroticgradientdescent.blogspot.com/2020/01/mistra…
@nickcammarata afaict if you fight the evil glob it fights back and if you see the situation in terms of fighting you've already lost
@captain_mrs Filipinos: food is pretty great, have you tried it?
@metaLulie come on in, there's plenty of room!
extremely wholesome give that kid an infinity. kids love infinities
(although note that if you don't trust that they also actually want the change you both say you want, then something yet different is needed — or they may want it and be averse to it for different reasons)
what does it mean for something to be "not my job"? seems like a very distinct feeling, that often trips me up when in fact the thing is causing me issues not causing anyone else issues
obvious thing to make with AI - something that takes an acapella song demo and lets you: - describe how you want it to sound - explore the space of possible chord progressions, instrumentation, &+ would mix generative AI with more procedural parsing stuff stuff
epic jam with @brspirituality about Thich Nhat Hanh's famous quote "the next buddha may be a sangha" and lots of other fascinating stuff, including whether thinking in terms of information theory is compatible with nonduality youtu.be/EYYTQGWbtvE
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 65 - conversation this went really deep really fast, and then explored. very satisfying convo. so cool to be able to share it with the world
some sort of nondual thing happening to me maybe? I don't know what's going on, but it's pretty cool and I'm liveblogging it youtu.be/Tc0j2KDT7ho
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 66 - musings, sharing my learning process this was a very cool experience, that hasn't stabilized in the week since but still feels accessible and background-deepening
in a recent conversation with @utotranslucence, I discovered that with my recent nondual shift where I'm experiencing myself as in the world not in my head, it feels less accurate to say "my inner you" and much more accurate to say "my sense of you" youtu.be/ALftXfN8DQI
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 67 - musings this continues to affect me in a pretty big way and I think it's just the tip of some major iceberg in shifting how I experience my self-other-world relationship
@Morphenius related, compatible but I guess more specifically I recently got a taste of the emptiness/nebulosity of *meaning* in particular, which feels different from Void, Silence, etc how even when I have a true sensation of "I've figured it out!" there's still a sense in which idfk
@syncretizm inherentness
@m_ashcroft very keen to get your take on this video. it feels extremely AT-flavored and it seems like when I do it I end up expanding awareness (particularly sideways & backwards) without that even being the aim
Retweeted @Morphenius
I grok a kind of zen-ish emptiness. I dunno if it's THE Emptiness™. Maybe? But it's pretty darn key & lets me at least pr…
> The ants that went the long way around the obstacle also contributed to the formation of the efficient path. Their contribution was just as important. had to ponder this, but I suppose it's because they all participated in "moving while not-yet-knowing" visakanv.substack.com/p/branching-pa…
🎵🎶 People try to put us d-down (talkin' 'bout my generalizations) Just because we get around (talkin' 'bout my generalizations)
yo #roamcult, I want to rename a graph, so I exported the EDN file but I only see Markdown/JSON import iirc the EDN has stuff that's not in the JSON, and I don't want to lose any metadata
realizing that "I don't trust you" is kind of basically the same as "I need space" and the latter usually goes over a LOT better
the best same page is the one you're already on rather than trying to "get on the same page", focus on mutually recognizing the ways in which you're not on the same page
Replying to @Obliquities
@Obliquities nice, I love it. very curious what you'd make of my NNTD framework it's very much about figuring out how to navigate the inquiry of how trust might be built malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…
@StupendousGrav1 yupppppppppppppp getting over entitlement to being trusted and instead realizing that everybody simply is already trusting you as much as they can without fooling themselves is one of the most useful moves, imo
@Conaw @deanbmusic aha yes, this is what I was looking for I just failed to find the button
@lisatomic5 @the_wilderless for me it reminded me a lot of @sashachapin's "When My Existence Inverted Instantly" although he frames it as a shift from "out there" to "in here" and mine feels in some ways the opposite sashachapin.substack.com/p/when-my-exis…
@PageSeverian @lisatomic5 @mechanical_monk yeah! I talk in this video (which is about the shift lisa's talking about here) about how annoyed I am that people conflate the two
@visakanv you're the last person who would have needed to make this a promise, since your taste wouldn't allow you to do otherwise but I appreciate the signalling value of you promising it publicly
Thread · A template for naming what someone might deny or deflect · 3 of 4 tweets
template published as a blog post, link/details here! malcolmocean.com/2023/05/alpha-…
elephant template! @p_millerd @nopranablem @xuenay @AnneSelke @visakanv @JohnStokvis @dismaien @pee_zombie @justavagrant_ @DanielTabakman @multisighuman @CollinLysford @cekaur @laudablelies @john_henry @bo_akimbo @StupendousGrav1 (spare our mentions—don't reply to this tweet)
remaining tags for elephant template! let me know what you think of it! @AskYatharth @nvpkp @jmes @PKrunstein @yellinglouder @VestigialShaman (spare our mentions—don't reply to this tweet)
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
me: nobody wants to alpha-test my template ☹️ Jess: you need to be more clear what it's about: "how to give feedback to…
@meekaale I've a (true) story I love to tell, which goes: one summer I tried walking around barefoot everywhere but I had to stop after about a week because I cut my foot on a piece of glass… < pause while they think ~"serves you right" > …in my kitchen 😂 < watch 'em go "ahh fuck" >
@eashankotha congrats better than spending your life avoiding feeling it tho remember that it's also okay to take a breather and laugh at something if something strikes you as funny, before getting back to the crushing sadness
cool new lens on hemisphere stuff
I've come to really appreciate "considerate" over "kind", as it highlights the role of attention in being loving and doesn't imply selflessness or transactionality
whoa this is very cool. sudden sense of the shape of the room and me in it
omg the US has a Paperwork Reduction Act bureaucracy used... bureaucracy! it's... I have no idea how effective this is pra.digital.gov
yo, come work with @CarnunMP in the Feral Free Agents room new pomodoro starting in <1min complice.co/room/feral
okay so the deck is still sorted, and I thought maybe I'd want to look through it in order, so I wanted to draw a random card without sorting so I just closed my eyes and cut the deck 12-15 times and felt like a pretty big fool when the card on top was the same as before 😂🃏
got an ad for something promising to unlock my Wealth DNA and make me rich and I was struck by how since I've been looking at magic more it wasn't even slightly tempting because even if in some sense it worked I could smell that it was made of evil magic
Retweeted @aphercotropist
Saying "the self" is kinda like saying "the this". There is no "the self," but there is a person that is you.
> no one in their right mind wants to be incel leaving aside sanity, to want to be incel is impossible, etymologically speaking: "involuntary celibate" ↳ if you're into it, it's not involuntary! "we're not Jedi", Komesarj says elsewhere twitter.com/lameypilled/st…
Feral Free Agent coworking! come do pomodoros with me & @CarnunMP this is a room for anyone in the process of undomesticating themselves work on your business, creative projects, or whatever! cc @visakanv @m_ashcroft @kaisoapbox complice.co/room/feral
@neats29 @m_ashcroft always on but may not always have people in it that said, I'm aiming to be there ~8am-5pm pacific time all of this week, maybe even a bit more and @CarnunMP's in the UK so he may be on even earlier we could get it going 24/7!
@eshear me signalling my alliance with team words-mean-things 🙃
@Aizazadi_ this is the way!
@vlct0rs_tw1tter @CarnunMP we're at it again today! (and all week)
Replying to @HephaistosF
one interesting effect of refusing to log into twitter on my phone, but having a widget that lets me tweet, is if I find something I want to amplify, I have to QT not RT which can prompt me to say something cool that I wouldn't've otherwise thought to say in that moment, eg:
@multisighuman it's via IFTTT: ifttt.com/applets/RWS7dg…
@neats29 @m_ashcroft @CarnunMP fyeah! see you tomorrow?
@RichDecibels @pepijndevos goodness is made out of participating in something larger whether that's in a dualistic way ("the something larger is separate but loves me and wants me to love others it also loves") or a monistic way ("I am in a real sense the something larger, actually")
@RichDecibels a mix of "if I don't do it then they'll throw ME in the camp" plus justifying it on some basis (before or after stepping into the role) evil is often framed as good, and authoritarian regimes are only possible in contexts where people are gaslightable
@RichDecibels I'll just leave this here
@TylerAlterman start a business and make enough money to fund it yourself or partner with someone who shares your vision (rather than needing to be pitched) and just already has enough money but doesn't have enough social capital or skills to pull it off
nice... ceteris... you've got there would be a shame if it weren't... paribus
How much do you want to find out? youtube.com/watch?v=kDcyki…
the first rule of normie is you don't talk about "normie"
people are so clockcucked got an uber home a few minutes after midnight and Uber emails me like "your Wednesday morning trip" 🤨 & people saying "see you tomorrow... well I guess it's already tomorrow 😅😬" —bullshit it's not shut the fuck up you know what tomorrow is don't lie
Retweeted @xuenay
I wonder to what extent significant parts of Buddhism got so focused on renunciation because that's the "safe" kind of mental t…
@xuenay that seems highly likely to me although I've usually thought of it as "society was not willing to be reformed at large to stop macro-scale dukkha, so the main way to be free of dukkha was to nope out of society"
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance @xuenay ilibidgi
@the_wilderless mood
fun tip: if you feel bored and want to check something, instead of twitter or messenger or whatever, try looking at your own journal entries old enough that you've forgotten about them I've found it's often way more interesting!
more Feral Free Agent coworking! me & @CarnunMP are at it, working on our businesses tagging @neats29 @m_ashcroft complice.co/room/feral
hit me with your favorite site for tarot card meanings/interpretations
@xuenay yep, fair interpretation! etymologically the english word even maybe goes back to a word meaning "blink", so that checks out
@jonathanallard @RoamResearch yeah, very silly sometimes convenient for planning tomorrow but ontologically still clockcucked I have an app that has a daily rhythm and from the very beginning it made no assumptions that midnight is when the day rolls over. blog.complice.co/post/145832019…
@JoachimBrackx I use this in my notes all the time! and then as of a few years ago the @CompliceGoals app uses it too, first just on the backend (sane & sortable) then later also in the UI itself
@karma_gardener 4:10 is crazy late if you're still up and about to pass out tho unless you're in the north in summer and the dawn is already happening in which case you have bigger problems than what to call it 😅
@stephlepp > the thing nobody quite tells you about marriage is: you’re choosing the person in life who’s going to upset, disappoint annoy and frustrate you more than anybody else
@stephlepp a different answer is "because it matters"
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
if there is a God there are few things as sweet for Him and Her as the taste of forgiveness and reconciliation on the…
@metaLulie maybe they're like me (prior to a month ago) and don't know how to check their body because the only "inside" they know is "in my thoughts" but actually my body, your body... they're in the world, just like the keys I'm typing on now (vid on this)
Thread · The unnamed god of coordination, opposite of Moloch · 1 of 5 tweets
oh, "exaptation" and "the upward spiral" are also pretty close names for this phenomenon
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
great post by @Morphenius that's very relevant to NNTD it gestures at aspects of why I think moloch isn't as intractab…
there's a really important skill/habit in the smartphone era which is... doing nothing in particular taking even just a beat or two to fully rest after one thing ends, before immediately going "what's next?"
@LaurenzHemmen yup, exactly. they're amazing. it's really cool to be able to plug into the global meta-conversation while peeling carrots AND sometimes in the dishes, only the dishes
@the_wilderless huh, I think so although I am slightly forgetting which nights are which
@visakanv dim/top wit: rest is nice ☺️
@stephlepp I know what it'd feel like if I didn't, and I don't feel that
👀 SF folks want a grant & free commercial rent for a bit, to run some sort of funky pop-up downtown? super cool vibes ift.tt/FJuln8D
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
"non-coercion" as an idea is an attempt to undo internal tyranny (doing stuff b/c your inner critic bullies you into doing…
whosampled.com but for religions
surprised this wasn't already on there
....my surprise was warranted! I was NOT the first person to notice this connection and submitted it to whosampled. "don't let this discourage you"—too late.
I feel like if something is submitted but rejected but submitted multiple times maybe it should show up but in a different category or something. let the people speak (and don't waste their time trying to add it again!)
is there a way to prompt midjourney to say "take the style of this image and apply it to the structure of that image"?
I put this image of the panarchy loop into midjourney and prompted "[image] but prettier" and uhhhh well.
what duality currently feels like it's tearing YOU apart? (don't think too hard just reply with what comes to mind) for me rn... probably ambition vs humility
@jithamithra @visakanv I mean if you find other options let me know. this seems like the only viable one to me!
@visakanv what the actual fuck
@visakanv ♥ visa can have a lil rest right now, as a treat
Replying to @AnneSelke
@AnneSelke turn the missingness into art that moves you forward let it be fuel for your next adventure and get back in contact when the fuel tank of missing him feels empty and your life itself feels full
@MilanMeck @sashachapin some half-baked answers in here
@utotranslucence this is a song I knew as a kid, of a sailor singing to his love just before he leaves (he apparently didn't have the courage to already mention that he was leaving the next day) Great Big Sea has a fair number of songs that touch on themes like this. open.spotify.com/track/5xPkjGUo…
@nopranablem someday we'll have audio playback that automatically speeds up and slows down and rewinds based on how well we're paying attention and that is exciting and also terrifying
@uberstuber @warmbott podcasts yes, but often audiobooks are recorded at an absurdly slow speed, and I'm just like... I can't dance at that tempo. I can't follow the author's thoughts because there are too many of mine between each word
@RichDecibels mood yes
@stephlepp haha funky, I love it interesting mix of like... clowning and breakdancing
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"fucky" is a word
loook arrouund, look arrouunnnd 🎶 at how fucky we are to be alive right now
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance right?!?!
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance right but like, is there a way to tell it to specifically take the structure of an image, not the style? seems like no. okay.
I really fucking wish that "including results for" would only auto-fix things when what I've searched isn't a word and has no matches if I search `relationship panarchy`, I don't fucking want `relationship anarchy`. I meant what I said.
(specifically I meant this article I wrote) malcolmocean.com/2020/10/relati…
guessing that this might be about intuitions around what "handling people" implies as a metaphor feels to me quite left-hemispherey, objectifying tho I guess one also can handle a baby, gently-lovingly
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF in this case it was brave search or duckduckgo or something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance ah damn that's super duper cool to know about even tho it doesn't solve the particular task I was looking at today
@JakeOrthwein still sucks tho
Retweeted @jessicamalonso
The current type of discomfort will remain until a new type of discomfort is allowed to come in.
@stephlepp 😚👌
@parafactual a general heuristic, not a specific move
@parafactual experiment with lifehacker type stuff with some good anecdotal reports but no mainstream science like polyphasic sleep or healing your myopia even if they don't work, you'll amp up your weirdo quotient endmyopia.org
@potatodepaulo empirical path to getting along? this is extremely my jam. have been studying trust-physics for the last 3y
@the_wilderless I got a lot out of the 5-episode series on Jim Rutt's podcast, which is basically a speedrun. jimruttshow.blubrry.net/john-vervaeke-…
@the_wilderless sometime later I started slowly making my way through the whole thing, not as video (I'm not gonna WATCH 50h of stuff jfc) but as if a giant author-read audiobook and some of the episodes don't do much for me but overall the insight density's still worth it
Retweeted @the_wilderless
Actually yeah I want an answer to this too Like OP I bounce off vervaeke cuz he spends so. Much. Time. Justifying and…
video that's really relevant to AI rn doorman fallacy = with revolving doors, hotels fired doormen to save costs, but it turned out doormen were doing a dozen other things too, so they lost money youtube.com/shorts/xn5CiPw…
the medium is the mess
learning and evolution are... the same thing
epistemic status: dayglo
wow this sense of profound abundance is so precious omg I wow I've never experienced this before I've got to make sure I hold onto it and protect it and make the most of it while I've got it
sigil for releasing the intention to find out what happened to that thing I somehow lost
"well, and sometimes anger is appropriate, because things are bad." — @Morphenius
with great responsibility comes great power
I've yet to find a restaurant that wouldn't hand me a paper menu and if I did I would probably just leave. I don't want us to all get sucked into the Everything Screen, I want your fucking menu.
sailing the subtle sounds of an alliterative attitude my tongue tango'd unthinkingly towards the virile verbiage of "@VividVoid_" and noticed anew the name's numinousness
"choose" has its roots in ~"taste" I've oft observed the vast difference vs "decide" (whose "-cide" means cut, shared with "homicide") just now I noticed the flip: how having & training taste in the context of art, or people... exacts from us the excruciating act of choice
when I soothsay, I say to soothe finding truths' way, in pleasure & calm some get provocative, exploding the fuse I'm just as evocative, while I'm dropping balms
@schala163 😉 got 'em
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin @visakanv have you read this? relevant to your interests and ambitions
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin yeah that seems about right
@myceliummage fuck yeah
Retweeted @aleksil79
The perspective shift from "complicated machinery" to "adaptive complexity" is surprisingly deep and gradual. It's been over…
@aleksil79 nice what's clicking lately?
@aleksil79 with the caveat that I'm not sure how, I'd broadly like to help you get funding for this. I've been struck by your tweets over the past years to a degree that... if I had the $ at my disposal that I'd like to have, to give grants for this stuff, you'd get one handily
@JakeOrthwein my contribution to the discourse:
Replying to @s0ulDirect0r
@s0ulDirect0r I wouldn't say "actually want" more like "are drawn towards and aren't aware of how to get out of that attractor into something better"
@prerationalist I think I came up with a similar idea awhile back but I can't seem to find it
gonna be in Nova Scotia this summer (mostly Halifax but a bit elsewhere) lmk if you're around & wanna hang out! (or if you've got friends in NS, tag 'em below)
Retweeted @visakanv
call me naive but from where I’m standing, even within the context of this claim, being able to discern what is good and usef…
@VividVoid_ The LW Sequences
Thread · Knowing as looking plus explanation, and who to defer to
knowing involves [looking/sensing] + [generalization or explanation] and you can improve your looking with different types of measuring, whether that's a seismograph or recording videos of cultures stats can tell you you're confused but can't conclusively prove anything
and if 2+ people are sincerely looking and they get different answers, or if you have an explanation but it would also imply something else that you know to not be the case, then there's some confusion somewhere
but lots of "research" is done to prove a point not to sincerely look extreme example is eg tobacco companies trying to prove safety, but also academics trying to keep their jobs, or other rationalizing motives
so when I have to defer, I largely defer to curious friends of mine whose motives are aligned with getting a real answer to their question, as long as their explanations don't contradict the other things that I know or contain type-confusions.
and I probably assess whether the friends are good at figuring stuff out by watching the structure of how they think and look, and seeing how well it aligns with mine on various levels
none of this is very clear cut, but neither is reality, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Retweeted @uncatherio
I found the central anecdote of this thread extremely striking and informative, and greatly recommend reading. In particu…
@uncatherio mine is basically the same as yours but more verbose and with a particular note about not just observations but interpretations/generalizations
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia what deck do you have? I like it
@visakanv @Babelwright and learn how to sign off when you're not in a mood to make good replies, so you're not pushing it or unfollow people to whom you don't actually have anything you feel like saying
@visakanv @sashachapin haha theresatweetforthat.png curious if there are things that feel like they'd be good to say about the difference in paths personally, I notice that the article definitely stirs up my nebulous fears about getting more attention, and I'd like to feel clearer about it
@aleksil79 have you read Preconquest Consciousness?
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
Holy hockey sticks this also totally explains why perceptual control theory has so much resonance "Balance" is liter…
@Jeanvaljean689 how does it plug in with PCT?
Thread · "Cucked" as unwittingly hosting someone else's values · 2 of 4 tweets
increasingly appreciating "cucked" as meaning "you unwittingly let someone else swap their values/perceptions/models in instead of yours"
goes all the way back to the etymology of cuckoo birds hiding their eggs in other birds' nests for free childcare which is ofc where "cuckhold" (adultery) comes from, whence "cucked"
@cekaur @parafactual I know a couple people who've made 0.25-1 diopters of progress I've been working on it myself for the last few months but not that actively, so not any measurable progress or lack thereof yet
@cekaur @parafactual I also tried polyphasic sleep in 2011 and 2013, and it wasn't sustainable but taught me a lot including how to nap I've recently been less biphasic sleeping with a lover but then the last week travelling on my own I have naturally reverted so that's cool! malcolmocean.com/2016/04/polyph…
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"neuroplasticity" is a word wtf
godfuckingdamnit I just lost a 15-tweet draft that I was almost done with
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"cucked" is a word and this is what I think it means as a general thing
Thread · "Cucked" as unwittingly hosting someone else's values · 1 of 4 tweets
it's kind of an insult but frankly I've also been finding it liberating to notice ways I've let myself be cucked and can now stop doing so
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF on the one hand yes, and—that seems better than not playing around with it at all on another level, it's twitter: thoughts are pretty good at standing on their own unless you're particularly well-known. but not point arguing this. try using it or not, feel excluded or not 🤷♀️
Thread · The five senses are a fake abstraction · 7 of 19 tweets
"the five senses"—hold up wtf are you talking about? who cucked your own awareness of experience? you obviously also have a sense of balance, and of temperature and if you pay attention, you also have a sense of where your limbs are in space, and nausea, and love
a "sense" might mean several different things: 1. an individual receptor cell (eg rod & cone cells in eyes) 2. a sense "organ" (a system made of many of these cells, eg an eyeball) 3. a sense "field", eg "vision" these are all fake! all made-up abstractions useful—but fake!
you can break down most of the classic 5 senses into subsenses. eg touch: > Pressure, temperature, light touch, vibration, pain and other sensations are all part of the touch sense and are all attributed to different receptors in the skin.
taste is ofc made of: - salty bitter sweet sour - plus "smells" - plus tongue-textures - plus mouth-temperatures - (plus associations?) - (plus other stuff??) you could call those all separate senses! there's no right answer!
meanwhile, we like to think of our vision as looking "at reality" in some direct sense, but it's all an interface depth perception is constructed not by the individual eye, but by the brain (although it uses more tricks than just the binocular thing)
even perception of COLOR is something our brain does! it's not in the individual receptor cells and it's only maybe-kinda in the eyes (this is even before we get to how names for colors cause certain cultures to be more able to distinguish them)
it seems to me that we as humans in particular, with our absurd levels of neuroplasticity (adult humans have more neuroplasticity than newborns of most other species) can develop new senses to suit our situations & tools you probably have this one:
twitter has been sometimes just CRASHING while composing seems new as of the elon era? I'm pretty sure my previous losses were more due to computer crashes or slips on my part I have this fix for some of that:
Thread · The five senses are a fake abstraction · 6 of 19 tweets
I was walking with @Morphenius yesterday and when we went from a side street to the main one, I felt a sense of being closer to the heart of the city, not as-the-crow-flies but in an artery sense an irreducible gestalt: combo of the street's size, sound, speed, busses
@RomeoStevens76 said to me at one point that one phase of buddhist practice is "unification of the sense fields" & I'm sure boring meditation is one path but I always like to explore things directly have you noticed the sense fields aren't separate? that you're inventing edges?
there's just EXPERIENCE there's no sound separate from sight there's no touch separate from taste there's no balance separate from space there's no nausea separate from love there's no outside separate from inside: youtube.com/watch?v=Tc0j2K…
it's all happening, all at once, all in one place (consciousness I guess?) there's a dualistic tendency to name that place as being "in your head" but this is wrong in two ways: 1. it's all out there! it really is! 2. is the touch of fingertips in your head? ofc not
#1 is a whole trip, which I'm not gonna go into. check out A Cartoon Epistemology which does conclude "it's all in your head", but is simultaneously pretty nondual slehar.com/wwwRel//cartoo…
but #2 is why I find myself on here ranting about how "the 5 senses" is fucked I think we've been played for absolute fools by Big Dualism. 4/5 canonical senses are based in the head: 👁️👂👄👃 and the other is surface-exterior, existing at the supposed self-other boundary 🫳
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"localizable" is a word
@jaycousins yup
Thread · The five senses are a fake abstraction · 2 of 19 tweets
other senses are less localizable balance, proprioception, interroception... ...the mind as a sense organ, which senses thoughts, whatever those are ...our sense of others, constructed from our sense of how they see & interpret & attend to the world: youtube.com/watch?v=ALftXf…
the mere division of cells into "sense cells / receptors" and "other cells" is completely fake. sure, that's the MAIN job of some cells and not others but they're all perceiving and all communicating or this whole organism thing WOULD NOT WORK
@aleksil79 you're probably looking for the Snake Cult article
Thread · The five senses are a fake abstraction · 1 of 19 tweets
the point of this thread is to shake loose what we think is going on with our senses, from our actual experience of sensing things and to remind ourselves (this is for me, too!) to not let any model of our senses overshadow our actual experience of those senses
meaning is a sense the units of it are units of context some are small, like a word you've heard before some are large, like a classic myth or archetype some are in between, like "what you're doing reminds me of that time when I..."
kind of a hilarious self-referential abuse of power that the etymologists called their field "the study of truth"
Thread · The five senses are a fake abstraction · 2 of 19 tweets
ah! this thread would be VERY remiss without mentioning Don Hoffman's mindbending model of the Interface Theory of Perception which makes a remarkably sound case for the idea that what we're perceiving is an interface with reality, not "reality" as such sites.socsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/interf…
the IToP gets really trippy in contact with the idea that meaning is a sense because it highlights that without shared context, we look at the meaning dimension of reality and "see" different stuff or as some would put it, "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra"
@Jeanvaljean689 reminds me of a thing from Radical Wholeness about a group of people ("Anlo Ewe" iirc) who see "balance" as the most fundamental sense
@RichDecibels I rewrote it. it's trying to unfuck people's sense of their senses
@eshear I rewrote it... it maybe turned out better? and I think you'll like it as it's nebulously related to what you've been writing about lately, re epistemology and words meaning things and so on
@lisatomic5 @TheFigen_ haha amazing yeah looks like the horse is controlling for distance from the human's hand, as much as it is for any sense of actually being pulled along cc @EvadeHullu
@RobertHaisfield ha, amazing I love reflecting on what's next when I'm up in the air (in my cases usually an airplane)
@eshear also great is listening to my vids/pods like "oh man this guy is making such key points that are so important to me!"
@m_ashcroft "how to look" "ways of attending"
@Shadow_Rebbe how's it going so far?
@Shadow_Rebbe maybe join me & @CarnunMP in this coworking room at some point we're in there lots (I've been out the last few days since a friend was visiting) complice.co/room/feral
Retweeted @bierlingm
His name may not be uttered but her presence may surely be felt. As the meeting of two minds, souls, poles, and principles…
@ladymcscope haha I love your "mostly devoid of self" yeah, it's a real update. umm... mix of both. my LH is better at spotting its way out of some of the typical LH eternalism traps specifically around fixed *meanings* (there are other places to perceive emptiness)
just a few draws and they've included Queen of Cups and Knight of Cups and then today Queen of Cups again (with Hermit yesterday) hmmm 🍸🍷🥂🏆🥃🥤🥛
I've been doing some amount of looking up the symbolism or mapping it onto what I know about the tarot suits etc but I've also been just looking at the *actual physical card I drew and its art* not the abstract notion of eg Queen of Cups, and noticing what it evokes for me
@stasiabryant @Obliquities cool! what does it connect with for you?
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin @lisatomic5 @the_wilderless bluhhhhh not sure how to parse it I get a sense of cosmos, kinda the room?
@actualhog what is your experience like?
Replying to @brspirituality
@brspirituality @Morphenius I have the sense you might really dig this convo. touches on a lot of the stuff you and I have been feeling into, from novel angles it's long tho, up to you if you want to listen/watch it all
@Morphenius "all things are made of reification" lol anyway yeah, as you say, no essential meanings. glad you understand me perfectly and we agree about this and are totally on the same page.
@justavagrant_ ahhhh, yeah reminds me of
@billiamfrances @nickcammarata ah yeah in the seen, only the seen (no seer)
@monsieurbulb @RhysLindmark @sonyasupposedly @mill_aron @Liv_Boeree yeah, no perfect mechanisms but ever-evolving more preferable possibilities
@meekaale boop
@LaurenzHemmen @zoldort @AskYatharth might be the dream mashups concept? here is post+thread
@RomeoStevens76 @ladymcscope @danielbrottman oh, mara youtube.com/watch?v=pqZgMQ…
yo @RomeoStevens76 can you hook me up with your take on the 6 realms, including what wisdom each of them holds?
@aleksil79 @RichDecibels @Plinz @RomeoStevens76 @Morphenius batsignal
@BrandonGoldman yeah good point "Attend to" is a bit awkward "Pay attention to"... hm
@giray_arat or if you read the existing thoughts on wikipedia or whereever and you're like "god this is awful they don't know wtf they're talking about" that can also unblock
@adamrisom yep, great point another part of the confusion going on here
@LauraVWard bahaha yessssss it me
@JohnStokvis it's a pretty expensive solution, clearly only remotely made plausibly worthwhile by the weird governmental monopolies on existing land not that the governments "own" it but that even if you own it they won't let you do interesting shit with it
@visakanv thanks man it's an attempt to distill a particular intuition that points towards Land Value Tax into one tweet, without saying "LVT" itself
@TylerAlterman not particularly but it's Brave and I'm getting lots of errors in the console
@TylerAlterman yeah seems better if I turn off Brave shields still does the "page missing" but shows the pics
@RomeoStevens76 ha, cool
@Conaw @71tu5 @johnataylor some interpretations of Mark 9:24 would be antithetical to my philosophy, but here's one that's not "part of me has seen how this can't not be true, so I trust that if I listen to my unbelief/distrust, it will find its own way to align with this principle"
@Conaw @71tu5 @johnataylor in that spirit... the day I first said this 👇 I felt a sense of being a colleague with Jesus, working on the same holy project
@IvanVendrov if someone else is down to care for you and you can tell they're down, no issue with getting care from them some people act like there's a rule where you don't deserve others' love unless you don't need it…😒 but often we learn to love ourselves by internalizing others' love
@visakanv damn we were on such a same wavelength tonight
just did my fortnightly checking-of-twitter-notifications
Retweeted @rachelclif
black pill: if you say you want people to tell the truth ... are you willing to create a space in which they feel safe e…
“Boundaries are the distance at which I can love you and me simultaneously.” ― Prentis Hemphill
@justavagrant_ @sokindling @rachelclif @tinychefjr that seems like quite a good assessment my take is they should break up and then find out if they want to get back together sounds like they're discovering they're too close to love each other properly, so they need to back up & re-enter
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance something like that seems right hmmmmmmmmmmm also
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin @lisatomic5 @the_wilderless is that anything like what you get?
@visakanv @sashachapin ahhh great this bodes well for my intention to call my NNTD book "How To Not Trigger Me In Particular (And Maybe Some Other People Too)"
@LaurenzHemmen @zoldort @AskYatharth hmm... did you read the whole post?
@AbstractFairy @Morphenius is running a program trying to show people how to Look I've been collecting some thoughts on the subject here (including links to his stuff on it) roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmo…
@visakanv people don't realize that you can cultivate being lucky x.com/VinceFHorn/sta…
if you can't beat 'em, recognize that you are already fundamentally not separate from 'em
loving this analysis I'm definitely on the untangling path
Retweeted @embryosophy
there’s no outside director there’s no inside director either intelligence arises in the relationships among the smalles…
Replying to @abhayance
@abhayance @utotranslucence I'd be into reading this with you sometime and hearing your take on it
@AaronBergman18 @BootsPlatypus in what sense are the other senses doing this? / is your own body not part of the world? I agree nausea can come from many sources (food poisoning, smelling something gross, a roller coaster) but so can red light so that doesn't seem like much of an argument
@acidshill love it
Retweeted @eigenrobot
if your taught a Science Fact and it involves a number thats not 0, 1, e, i, or pi you are being scammed …
Thread · The five senses are a fake abstraction · 1 of 19 tweets
here's @eigenrobot's version of the same "who cucked you into thinking you had exactly 5 senses?" thread twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
@Jeanvaljean689 can you give me a tweet-sized version? I don't see the connection at all except "brains"
@LaurenzHemmen @zoldort @AskYatharth oh huh, this feels more connected to this piece of my writing: malcolmocean.com/2022/10/open-l…
@Shadow_Rebbe maybe more complex although also Complice tends to sort of ignore deadlines (and certainly doesn't encourage you to make fake ones) and instead is more like, trying to get you to ask "what now, given everything?" (including but not only deadlines) youtube.com/watch?v=lm2kv_…
@aleksil79 which evopsych assumptions?
@Morphenius @lolalucxy right, and memes/language/models/etc as sort of one of those tools
Retweeted @the_wilderless
the “you can’t ignore politics, because EVERYTHING is political” crowd really don’t like it when you respond with “oh t…
checkout clerk: we only have reusable bags me: ...fine, I guess I'll just have to buy one of THOSE and throw it out then (it's actually kinda cute, maybe I won't, but I refuse to pretend that that isn't what happens to most of them, at much greater environmental cost)
@tasshinfogleman you write genius poetry and lyrics witty, deep, courageous, attentive
@georgejrjrjr @tasshinfogleman seems to me it's *solvable* without a new drug, but not yet *solved* so uhh [citation needed]?
Retweeted @strangestloop
oh to be a girl who has fallen in love with her range: she is extremely sensitive, she is freakishly powerful. it took h…
@strangestloop early next year or so I'm hoping my business will have the cash to part-time hire someone who wants to do backend dev + sysadmin stuff and the person I'm wishing for is very good at working solo & also very good at communicating. an artist of attention management
Retweeted @strangestloop
i can just do stuff bf stuff gf
gotta try stuff to know first try is often slow
"primate brain when alone is very distracted by why your tribe isn't around" if you wanna come virtually work with me I'll be in this coworking room all day! ➔ complice.co/room/feral (cc @CarnunMP, @SunnyDisposish1, @neats29)
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@dvassallo "A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex…
@oreghall @dvassallo and even besides that, there's still an evolutionary process going into making them, which is YOU—iterating on all of the previous game-of-life structures you've seen & understood
Retweeted @Morphenius
Okay, I'm re-pissed about math ed. Time for another rant.
3 intellectual archetypes: 🌲 the hermit — doesn't read or watch things, tries to figure it all out themselves 📖 the scholar — thoroughly researches everything already written on the topic 😍 the connoisseur — improvisationally explores & remixes others' ideas am I missing any?
wasn't sure what to call the third one (which is obviously the one I resonate most with) I considered "dilettante", which would be kind of a reclaiming of its non-derisive roots—it's related to "delicious" also considered "lover"
I vaguely feel like this wants to be a 2×2 but I'm not sure what the axes would be thoughts?
one way to draw it: 🌲📖 both hermit & scholar have a kind of thoroughness/depth 📖😍 both scholar & connoisseur involve working with others ideas but shallow + solo seems... not very exciting or useful.
a different way you could do it though would be to note that 🌲😍 both hermit & connoisseur have a sense of "you can get started right away" ohhhh hmm, that might suggest a 4th which is something like 🧘♀️the monk — solo but you have to meditate for years first
@AbstractFairy @CarnunMP @SunnyDisposish1 @neats29 it's got video but no audio, so in that sense always silent and we roughly keep to a work/break cycle, and do text-chat in the breaks the app (which I built) is smart and by default only plays chat sounds during breaks
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF this feels like it's on the right track can you describe more the difference between Hermit & Obsessive? or examples of each
@cognazor Saskatchewan has deep socialist roots (a century of unions & coops) so the "conservatives" there (read: "keep things the way they are") are economically "left" (public ownership, not private) nationally they're confused who to vote for because they want unions but no gays 😂
@cognazor important to track that fundamentally conservativism is about slow/careful/limited change, not about any particular set of policies whatsoever
@jaycousins @RichDecibels @visakanv haha yesss does he have a thread more specific than the "haters are fans too" one?
oh nice, a short intro to relevance realization highlighting the deep problem (that we're all constantly implementing a remarkably good solution to!) and connections with AI youtu.be/H-opRmx6C9c
@Jeanvaljean689 vervaeke also teaches vipassana and tai chi tho I think, although secondarily
I love my love my love loves me my love for my love sets me free
trust is so trippy there are contexts where adding "it's okay if no" to a request makes it easier but in other situations, where there's already trust that "no" is okay, saying that would actually call it into question again weirdly, like "duh..? don't you know us?"
drew @maybegray's card today and suddenly became fascinated by the idea of having an entire tarot deck where the art is made of emoji would be such a cool remix of symbolism the overall design of this is ofc entirely Rider-Waite
this video clip subtly relevant to a bunch of interpersonal superorganism calibration stuff I've been thinking about bedtime; will explain later twitter.com/creoletee/stat…
@myceliummage maybe you & @aphercotropist want to talk
@myceliummage @utotranslucence has been talking lately about actors as shamans, and that seems relevant here
more coworking in the Feral Free Agents room. I'll be there for the next 5h! new pomo starts in a few minutes but you can totally drop in mid-cycle complice.co/room/feral
> Anecdotally, a friend went in for an autism assessment and was asked to display different emotions with their face. They asked the doctors: "My real expressions, or my masking ones?" and said the doctors had no idea what they were talking about. .… ift.tt/WpSd2u7
@CoolPineapple18 ah yeah, well put!
@visakanv same thing maybe
@myceliummage tangles
@myceliummage embodied confusions
@loopholekid poking around it seems like maybe both "analysis" and "allow" come from a PIE root *leu-, although sufficiently indirectly that it doesn't mean much
you're allowed to grant someone permission that you weren't the one who took away in the first place
@myceliummage stored as-yet-unwelcomed experiences
Retweeted @the_wilderless
what do you do when you have an idea that - seems great - you would like to happen - you would like to be involved wit…
@the_wilderless let me know when you find the answer to this question! so far my approach has been to try to meme it into existence. talk excitedly about it, indicate I'd be supportive of it, etc maybe there's a skill of identifying & inspiring a particular person who'd be good to lead it?
@the_wilderless this thread is sorta me feeling into this question and what role I want to have in things:
long hair long game
@myceliummage there also might not be one single word that covers all of these cases, and the attempt to have one might be part of the issue
@__drewface I manage this in part with an extra monitor and in part with a series of hotkeys that let me very effectively move things within & between monitors, and to alternate workspaces on my computer basically I have up to 16 slots (half-screens) I can access in O(1) time
@__drewface at some point perhaps I'll come back and make a demo of this but my set-up is a bit weird atm because I'm travelling
@etiennefd my sense is that it's probably not fundamental in a universal sense but fundamental to human perception in the sense that certain chords resonate with certain harmonics in the brain pure sadness has minor chord vibes pure happiness major chord vibes stress/anxiety is clashynoise
@etiennefd for more on the music end of this, check out this cool 6min excerpt (full 45min talk also good) youtube.com/watch?v=-tRAkW…
@etiennefd for more on the brain end of this, check out connectome-specific harmonic waves, specifically work by @algekalipso & others riffing on Selen Atasoy's work here's Selen's; Andres can find the most relevant link of his work youtube.com/watch?v=JCEYtg…
Replying to @elizabetelling
@elizabetelling fax
@huggingpuppy @michellehuang42 nice! tho some people would foolishly think that then you only need one of them, and this can cause porbelms
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF yeah, it's not as simple as being able to do it right, have the right "tone" or intent or whatever, which sometimes people make it out as if it is there's a whole contextual/relational thing that also matters which is part of the calibration thing
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF @maybegray nice I would have gone with 🎡 instead of 💎, to really get at the cyclical/change stuff, not just the increase
Retweeted @UntilTrees
I just re-read this and it finally hit me what they mean by "the self-model is not the perceiver". I feel like I'm tripping
Retweeted @utotranslucence
@Malcolm_Ocean and I just managed to improv sing together over a voice call, by using a tempo (we think) where one bea…
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"hyperstitioneers" is a word that I found myself using (in response to someone else who used it in a reply to me—maybe the first time it's been used) after having looked up "hyperstition" which is also not yet in my dictionary but is a more established and googleable word
@enonimal dark side hyperstitioneers hiding in the dark, as usual, as is their way light side hyperstitioneers constantly tryna figure out how to shine more of the light of consciousness on the process and the project
@nvpkp @strangestloop oh huh, like you're in a similar position as me?
in response to "describe a person you wish would enter your life" figure I might as well gently waft this prayer into the breeze
@stasiabryant @Obliquities that's very tough, to have your attachment responses be feeling like dealbreaker level to him because then it can create a feeling like you have to fix yourself in order to be held, which gets in the way of the thing itself
@stasiabryant @Obliquities in some sense tho if its presence is a dealbreaker, and it's presence, the deal would already be broken, which means... either it's actually about whether he trusts it would change, or whether the thinks it'll only change if he puts pressure on it (counterproductive imx) or...
@stasiabryant @Obliquities ...or if he doesn't trust himself to respond to it in a way that feels good for him, like thinks he'll get trapped into some role he hates, but actually on some level he knows he has the power to respond differently.
@stasiabryant @Obliquities at any rate, Ideal Parent Figure protocol and other Attachment Repair techniques can be very powerful here. the "reprogramming"* may need to go deeper for this than for other stuff *I'm not super into that metaphor, would tend towards more like "reculturing" or "reparenting"
@stasiabryant @Obliquities also something to keep in mind, re "is it about him" is like... it is and it isn't and if your wants read to him as unreasonable demands... he never has to do exactly what you ask for, but he might explore if there's a different way to care for you! see malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
Replying to @HephaistosF
@HephaistosF haha I dig it "...everything changed when the eye nation attacked" —checks out!
@stasiabryant @Obliquities > I am very candid about how hard I work to feel/be secure I might suggest rather than try to feel/be secure, shifting focus to allowing yourself to feel/be however you in fact feel, and have that be okay & welcome which can then amount to "secure", but it's a different move
@UntilTrees @strangestloop "good at stuff" bf "into stuff" gf youtube.com/watch?v=Ru9ObP…
@georgejrjrjr @tasshinfogleman feeling the need to tag @Morphenius in everywhere these days. lots he and I are puzzling about together that's related to this
@b0esium @kevinsimler I'd love to hear what it connects with for you, what it reminds you of
@georgejrjrjr @tasshinfogleman @Morphenius here's one of the things we've been reading lately. I'd love to get your take, as it gets right at how it is that we came to be not-perfect
@georgejrjrjr @tasshinfogleman @Morphenius so it seems we're actually pretty on-the-same-page-here, re love-too-cheap-to-meter it's doable, there are examples / proofs of concept, but the question of how to scale it is not solved
Thread · Words that are definitely words but my browser dictionary rejects · 1 of 219 tweets
"blindspots" is a word
@actualhog hmmm. so you just talk about all the blindspots, and then people have clarity, and then they no longer have blindspots? or what? describe the sorts of experiences/scenes of yours that feel relevant to this (if you want)
Retweeted @enonimal
@Malcolm_Ocean "inside each of us there are two hyperstitioneers" "which one wins?" "the one you RT"
@enonimal the rest is commentary
@aleksil79 ah yeah he quotes chomsky but then is basically like "that seems implausible, especially compared to this other hypothesis". although he sort of agrees with chomsky that there was some sort of transformation into recursion, just disagrees about how it occurred/spread
@embryosophy @zecondchance @AskYatharth fractal home malcolmocean.com/2021/10/fracta…
@not_a_hot_girl @meditationstuff go to a local printshop and ask them to print off this webpage coil-bound. it'll be like $20-30 or something (maybe use some other method to convert html to doc first so you can ensure font/formatting stuff is good — pasting into gdocs won't work (too big) but maybe msword)
@Morphenius > a way to avoid infinite recursion the blue square is your head
@Morphenius hmm, not following. can you spell it out? (could record a short vid if that's easier than tweeting it)
@giray_arat meaning is first-person memory a self-recognition of a shape one has seen before
inb4 "that might get them hurt" in some sense granting someone permission is reminding them of their fundamental freedom. it's also a vote towards a culture that respects a particular freedom, but it may be a small nonbinding vote
@metaLulie huh, seems to me like maybe part of what's going on here might actually be kind of a nondual thing, where the body is just ALSO in the world, so there's still awareness of it but not in any elsewhere
some mistakes are fixable the rest are remixable
someone I know wrote up his experience of bootstrapping his therapeutic process I'd like to see lots more of these, to show people more affordances for this stuff ift.tt/Ean3slH
@tramazonflora yep, and
if it is in it, it is it. if it is id, it is
@nvpkp @strangestloop ahh, beautiful!
@HazilyRational I mean this basically points at the whole thing being an antagonistic rather than truth-seeking process though, no? I'm sure it is in some cases, but that's also a whole issue. inability to realtalk makes situations dangerous
be as brilliant as you can. If it’s good, someone will translate it
@strangestloop hanging out with friends on Vancouver Island first time back in a year
Retweeted @the_wilderless
i always wonder what people mean by shit like “modern human brains haven’t changed for a couple hundred thousand years”…
@the_wilderless there are more specific claims that seems worth talking about, like the idea that our mode of consciousness is much more of a memetic upgrade than a genetic one but that's still a physical change! (my new fav version of this) vectors.substack.com/p/the-snake-cu…
I recently used Google takeout to download my entire Google Drive in 50GB chunks. Felt good to do, tho low odds that gets hit anytime soon.
youtube short where vulfpeck band member talks about the importance of not chopping up recordings too much, to keep the magic alive and this interview is chopped up like every third word 😂🤦♀️ youtube.com/shorts/jMukSGR…
at this point I would say I'm basically not downloading the tiktok app out of a spiteful battle of wills
@lillybilly299 Canada; close enough
@aleksil79 ah yeah that's a mood for sure yeah, you can't be 100% inaccessible, but you can be 99%
@AskYatharth souls out is censured about as heavily as dicks out, in many places tho... fewer places
isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?
@hormeze - singing - saying hello - picking up on subtext - giving birth - dying
Retweeted @chercher_ai
How much does seeing the fabricated/constructed/empty nature of certain concepts shape political ideology? I feel like ce…
@everytstudies I also have a lot of vague distrust about something where many people seem to laugh at the idea that there are supposed to be feedback loops. how do you know if I'm even following the instructions properly?
@everytstudies I've gotten a lot out of @meditationstuff's approach, which emphasizes doing a lot of navigating (he literally calls it wayfinding meditation) not just repeating the same moves over and over check out meditationbook.page
@everytstudies @meditationstuff here's my 1-page summary
@lisatomic5 yeah this is super fucked tho in both cases I would broadly assume it's some sort of trauma response on their part unless you have additional evidence that they're the type to be consciously manipulative
lessen loosen listen
perspective
the Waking Up app teased me with a beautiful Moment today, but then failed to show it when I opened the app the notification said something like "this moment is the summation of every moment of your past. the summit of the mountain. enjoy the view"
I've gotten so attuned to the moon that I saw it in an unexpected place while waiting for the bus and jolted up thinking I was on the wrong side of the street before realizing that it was the wrong phase and it was just a reflection in the bus stop glass
visiting a city I used to live in, I coordinated 2 friends of mine to hang out with me at the same time, whereby they were able to dissipate some shame/guilt at having not texted each other back last year and say "let's be friends, who aren't afraid to follow up" 💪❤️🔥
I think one reason people like asking chatbots for help rather than searching is that it better supports a single-tasking satisficing workflow: ...you ask, it answers, the answer seems good enough or not. vs getting dozens of search results, tab explosions, etc
coworking in the Feral Free Agents room again! come make moves on what matters most complice.co/room/feral
in an article about why you *should* judge a book by its cover there's this embedded audioclip which has, as its "cover", this asinine cookie popup 🤦♀️ I actually thought it was a deliberate example of what NOT to do before I realized it was a live embed, not a screenshot
Thread · Aiming to help more people instead of make more money
I'm realizing that when I try to aim to MAKE MORE MONEY, I feel selfish & grabby but I feel more sane & Whole-some when I aim to HELP MORE PEOPLE, in sustainable ways when I aim to CREATE MORE WEALTH, while capturing a similar fraction of the wealth I create as I do now
like yes, I need more money in order to have the life I want to have. but I'm seeing if I can reorient towards the idea that if I'm not making enough money that that means either: - I'm not helping the world enough - I don't have my wealth-creation hooked up to my own engine
this makes me realize that in some ways, by keeping my business super small, that I've been being... not exactly "selfish", but... not as *kind* as I could be being! which transforms my ambition into "how can I become more kind? how can I serve the world better?"
importantly, I'm not considering myself to have obligations here to be kind or serve the world I only need to help the world enough that it helps ME enough for me to have the life I want. (more than that, I can do if I want to! which I often do)
I'm not saying this can't also goodhart lots of grifters convince themselves that they're helping people and that the people who don't finish the their expensive courses they pressured them into buying are just lazy or whatever
but it seems to at least start from a better place I guess in some ways this whole thing is the same idea as this quote from one of the main inspirations for my business:
anyway, the proof is in the pudding & so far I've neither helped more people nor made more money, so don't take this thread as having much credibility we'll see if this reframe/re-aim helps me over the coming months & years. it feels right. how do you think about it?
@kalinh I guess you could say I am winning the war
Gricean maxims for conversations importantly, these are descriptive, not normative/advice except in unusual or hostile situations, it has been observed that people broadly follow these and assume that others follow them
@visakanv @sanjehorah ah yeah, a failure to entertain weird disembodied hypotheticals instead of sticking to grice's maxims
@s0ulDirect0r an unrepentant flower-smeller
@krishnanrohit other kids good surrounded bad all same age bad
self-transforming culture is under construction please wear bootstraps at all time at this facility
more coworking I like you guys but I need to be focused (read: off twitter) today so come hang here! ift.tt/zKNJyBH
in retrospect, I don't know why I expected anything different 😅🤦♀️ @resendlabs
something I like doing, as part of keeping my thinking clear, is making sure not to say "apparently" when I mean "allegedly" ie when it did not appear to me itself but rather some source said it was so
@visakanv opening quote reminds me of this gem by Carl Rogers "Good communication, free communication, within or between people, is always therapeutic."
@visakanv I made a Best Posts page that has things grouped and bolded, tho it has the issue of getting out of date malcolmocean.com/best-posts
randomly found myself reading about Macau, 21km² on the coast of China that was owned by Portugal from the 1500s until 1999 and functioned as a trading post among many other things context: seeing this under the .mo domain and being like "wait what??" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugues…
come work with me in this Complice coworking room! last day to do that, in a sense (and that's good news, for reasons that'll become clear if you come see what I'm working on) complice.co/room/feral
from a bandwidth-optimization perspective it might be possible to make a new image format that can save a ton of space because it's compressed using common pattern/shape primitives more work to unpack but might be faster use AI for chunking idk