🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 this would SO have been me there's a story of my mum coming into the kitchen and finding me at about this age climbing up the shelves of the fridge asked what I was doing, I said "I wanted some milk" as if it should have been obvious
June 2021
@visakanv @TheAnnaGat @nibrasibn @ElodesNL @m_ashcroft @liekovarpio @pragueyerrr @tasshinfogleman @interintellect_ oh yeah, brilliant. Anna, let's do that.
Replying to @Virtual1nstinct
@alt_tatsu we'll just have to become ready!
@acidshill @eigenrobot I have been tripped up so many times by @peternlimberg's newsletters referring to some thought he had inspired by Socrates, only to add that Socrates is fickle but laying in the sun next to him, and grooming his fur with his paw.
@this_is_silvia hot
I intuitively feel like this thread marks a remarkable self-aware turning point and if you're following the ongoing evolution of the phenomenon known as @visakanv you won't want to miss it.
@this_is_silvia oh man, I'm working on a song that could totally use a string part—this is motivating towards me getting a demo out! imma shift gears into working on that rn actually
@this_is_silvia argh hm I am confused! I recorded an epic demo of the chorus in 5 part harmony in G but then I notice that I seem to want to sing the melody in the key of D (and it sounds way better in my voice) but I can't hit the bass harmony in D! 😣
Thread · Hunting for a bass singer and building a collaborative arrangement · 2 of 8 tweets
hmmmm... have I a friend on here who can sing a D2? it's not that low, but it's low. @MasterTimBlais seems like more of a baritone, but maybe one of his pals, like the guy who sings Pegasi in the Aladdin Exoplanetology medley... hmm.... (obvi could just retune, but...)
(I can technically barely emit the 73Hz frequency that is a D2, but it barely qualifies as singing, unless it's a week when I have a cold or have been talking nonstop at a conference for days or something)
@cameronconcarne @MasterTimBlais twitter choir! let's make this happen! 😮🎶😮🎶😮
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okay I have figured out how to pitch shift audio sections in bitwig. my voice singing in G pitched down to D sounds kinda like I'm breathing sulfur hexafluoride 😂
was all stoked to make a lil project on bandlab.com (online DAW) for folks to add their harmonies to but they only support 1-6 as numerators for the time signature, and this piece is in 12/8 can probably set it up as 4/4 with a triplet feel but @BandLab fix plzzz
@captain_mrs @MasterTimBlais you are so welcome usually for me it's Sam Robson's solo: when your stars do this and your curves displace then your star's got this transiting its face then you hit compute (heh) & lookie here you get good diameter data from that dip and orbit distance from the length of year
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Okay I'm making a bandlab for this. I've added @m_ashcroft & @this_is_silvia (violinist!) via email @cameronconcarne & @MasterTimBlais can I get your email addresses or bandlab usernames? here's the demo kind of a mess 🙃 I'm still very new at this! bandlab.com/malcolmocean/i…
@this_is_silvia thanks so much for tagging me here, has been super-energizing to be working on this knowing I'll be sharing it here
My Twitter Crush is: @visakanv Find yours at roundyearfun.me/twittercrush ⠀
@RomeoStevens76 wait waaaaaat? I haven't seen the movie but I read the book as a kid and it was excellently trippy and it seems to me that if you end it halfway then it fails at its one job of being a neverending story 🤨
...I mean this makes sense. Also damn that app needs a lot of permissions. Wasn't paying that close attention so I noticed like 2s after I'd already added it; I immediately removed it here afterwards: twitter.com/settings/appli…
Thread · Hunting for a bass singer and building a collaborative arrangement · 1 of 8 tweets
I've included a midi bit of the bass part (also here's sheet music lol) and also the recording of me breathing sulfur hexafluoride this is the only part I spent any time arranging; the many others there were totally improvised in a few takes
@pragueyerrr omg I totally feel you have you ever tried standing in the aisle and experiencing the reality that you're hurtling through the air on a platform in a tube with some wings can fucking walk around on that platform. wild. I also like to do stretches in the aisle
@pragueyerrr if you wanna feel really baller, when nobody's looking strike a wide stance and stick out your arms as if you're surfing or snowboarding or something
@pragueyerrr totally. it's a whole marvellous experience just being up there I also like journalling on airplanes being way the fuck up high helps me think big picture thoughts
Retweeted @pragueyerrr
never forget to deal with every situation as if you are aggressively sexy
Thread · Hunting for a bass singer and building a collaborative arrangement · 1 of 8 tweets
the tracks in there are exported from bitwig, where they sound way better with a ton of reverb, but I left the exports clean for idk reasons (also the thing SHOULD be in 12/8 time @ 78bpm (per quarter note) but since @BandLab doesn't do 12/8 time it's 4/4 @ 52 bpm instead)
@pragueyerrr 🎶 doodoodoodoo doo doo doo doo doo doodoo 🎶 let's make... products 😘
@pragueyerrr ah, the "doodoodoodoo" version is how he does it live @ MSG; the one I linked above just has him singing "oooooh" amazing to watch how much more charisma he has 6y later youtu.be/rv4wf7bzfFE?t=…
Thread · Hunting for a bass singer and building a collaborative arrangement · 1 of 8 tweets
also also there's a part in the bandlab labelled "silly fake descant" which was a bit that instead of tuning *down* a fourth to get from G to D, I tuned it UP A FIFTH, so it sounds a bit alvin-and-the-chipmunksy 😂 cool notes tho! ...just needs a soprano to sing it instead
@samvega_pasada @Aryeh___ > Use of the language of erotic union with Christ. Nice.
@Aryeh___ idk if this counts as heresy but I love this tantric presentation of the Five Precepts, which probably seems pretty heretical from a sutrayana perspective 😮 liquisearch.com/aro_g_t%c3%a9r…
problem..... SOLUTION you agree there's a PROBLEM, right? so you'd better get behind my SOLUTION
@this_is_silvia @m_ashcroft @cameronconcarne @MasterTimBlais yay! 🎻 I don't really know what the violin wants to be doing, but maybe you can figure it out maybe some sort of gentle duet/countermelody-style thing in the last verse, then swelling into the final choruses I think that would be 😙👌
Replying to @sashachapin
@sashachapin ahhh fascinating guessing that part of what's going on here is trying to coopt your problem to point at their own solution based on the general naive fallacy that if you can point at a problem people need to get on board with your proposed solution
tired: ninja wired: niqab
@visakanv @Solar_Trex I am reminded of this, which I continue to find very delightful. the sun never sets on the @visakanv+@m_ashcroft+@Malcolm_Ocean meta-empire
@visakanv @Prigoose @TylerAlterman @Conaw oh no now we've got scheduling to sort out. what about at like 6pm pacific today? or 7pm pacific on thursday?
@Aryeh___ o shit just came across this not a personal favorite but kinda HilEREouS reddit.com/r/ATBGE/commen…
@alt_tatsu heh. excellent.
@alt_tatsu is it this?
@paperlemonade @Twitter @Meaningness @_awbery_ hmmm speaking of searching gifs, it would be great to be able to add a hidden caption whenever I tweet a gif, so that if later I wanna find the same gif, I can and/or the ability to copy a gif from one tweet to another you're composing without needing to know what to search
the important thing to write down is not problems but ideas for solutions if you forget about a problem, either it's already solved or doesn't matter, or... you'll be reminded of it sooner or later since you haven't solved it yet!
@this_is_silvia @tasshinfogleman 🍫 my staple chocolate bar being on sale last night (I bought all 4kg they had on the shelf) 🎶 people chiming in on my music-making thread last night 📥 @joyurge coming up with a cool workflow design for organizing @CompliceGoals support mail
what would it be like to have a visualization of your inner growth or skill growth that resembles one of those charts on the wall/doorframe you have as a kid of how tall you are? (from a convo w @Lauracsc_)
@Lauracsc_ @visakanv we did some chatting and just had a call. good vibes, great connection Visa
@alt_tatsu stoked
@ssica3003 yesssss @Jeanvaljean689 is organizing a reading group, idk if you wanna get involved
@ssica3003 @Jeanvaljean689 also @m_ashcroft dunno if you're already linked into McGilchrist reading group thingy but it's happening
@tasshinfogleman mmm, yeah! this can be tough. I'm asking myself when would be the best time to check in with you about that, given that it can be hard to figure out trajectories in advance eg if I ping you next Nov, you might already be stuck somewhere for the winter, but Oct might be too soon
@pragueyerrr you might like this post about manufactured normalcy fields, which is part of why other people don't notice this stuff ribbonfarm.com/2012/05/09/wel…
@BlackForestBoi that's precisely the trick they *don't* emphasize that part, but it's totally right there in the shadows of what they're saying (sometimes they emphasize that part, but there's a sense in which typical frames are tricksier than that)
get you a buddy who hits yo offbeats like RUN DMC to rock (a rhyme) that's right (on time) huh! huh! huh! huh! huh! huh! here we go! this is the ideal partnership you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like youtube.com/watch?v=l-O5IH…
@alinekaeri oh yeah? name three. 😜
@Prigoose @visakanv @TylerAlterman @Conaw either of those should work for me! @visakanv & @conaw?
@rasoolr @DougMcGuff I've been doing a bit of Drew Baye's Kratos workout, which is bodyweight slow high intensity to failure training. He indicated could do 3/week, though as I've been getting into it lately I've been doing more like 1/week and that feels fine.
sometimes you're surprised that you're not surprised it's because *you* knows things that *you* don't
I'd like a dozen songs that do the same thing for me as Our Dark Garden by @BT Lots of great chill stuff that has more rhythm; lots of ambient stuff I'm not into because it has no rhythm or movement. This clearly has rhythm but also so much SPACE. youtube.com/watch?v=wwcI9q…
@visakanv @Prigoose @TylerAlterman @Conaw I'm thinking 6pm today unless @conaw says he can't make it and does want us to plan around him—which I'd be stoked to do if he wants!
@nikitab @gojomo @utotranslucence bring back twitter API
Retweeted @choosy_mom
broke: your opinion woke: my opinion
@visakanv @Prigoose @TylerAlterman @Conaw update: we had a short call and mostly boggled about this quote and whether it was likely to be workable, or for that matter, hot > Women over the age of 40 were to act as sexual "mentors" to adolescent boys, because these relationships had a minimal chance of conceiving.
@regardthefrost unknown known unknowns
Retweeted @chenoehart
We don’t remember the existence of height charts on walls enough. They were interesting as a type of data visualization emb…
@nosilverv Nice! Yeah, I've been meaning to check out Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain but haven't gotten to it yet
@chenoehart for me it was in my grandfather's workshop so I didn't see it every day, but every week or two
Replying to @cypnk
@cypnk you might like the vibe of the announcements in this album, which to me feel similar given the vibe of the songs, although the verbal content is less rich than your tweet youtube.com/watch?v=YyDR2b…
Replying to @cypnk
@cypnk It's great stuff. Totally transformed my experience to realize he's a legit embodied musician too, not just an electronic composer who can arrange a bunch of good notes in a DAW (nothing wrong with that, it's just a whole different thing!) youtube.com/watch?v=MV9-VM…
Retweeted @pervexists69
Weightlifters who know that free weights are better than machines should take this reasoning to its logical conclusion an…
Replying to @__frye
@__frye in some respects but not per se on net depends somewhat on how *with* same bed but not touching, a la college band trip? or literally falling asleep while bodies completely ensnugglified?
describe in a tweet one of your top 3 least comfortable nights of sleep (ie I guess any cause of having trouble sleeping aside from mood/anxiety/mania/insomnia)
@Jeanvaljean689 @RoamResearch Ahaaaaa very cool. I took this screenshot which I think illustrates it better.
How many doses of the vaccine do you think the person who has gotten the most doses of the vaccine got?
@globalculture @utotranslucence *looks up* ....acquired by nokia then junked I fucking hate acquisitions 🤬
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I think this would jive well with functionality that encourages you to write down restaurant or park recommendations for places you're not in, and get reminded of them when you go, which is something I've wanted for a decade.
@Aryeh___ ah yeah I was not meaning to count either of those I mean someone who was like "clearly if 2 doses is better than 1, the thing to do is get MOAR doses"
Retweeted @doctorow
It's a zombie economy. For 40 years, we've eroded the wages of workers and transfered their share of profit and productivity…
Version of email where each email costs 1¢ to send when?! Seems so obvious by 2021 that if it's not worth 1¢ to *somebody* for an email to be sent, it's not worth it. guys I think we fucked up 😛 blockchain fix? 🤔
Bartender: "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here… …unless you've parked in one of the designated Tiny Home parking spaces, in which case you can do both!"
I'm a lumberjack and I'm alright, I sleep all day and I work all night 🪚🪵
Eighty-TwenTea: if you're in a situation where you don't have easy access to a kettle (or time to boil water) but you do have a hot hot water faucet and you just pour tap-hot water on the teabag sacrilege for English breakfast, great for herbal/tisane
"Just A Reminder: Masks Are Mandatory. All masks must be worn while on the ferry." me, a literalist: "fuck, do I have to put on the mask in my pocket and the one in my backpack too?"
The people you spend time with will end up being the people you've spent time with. Most people don't realize this.
treat yoself before yo yeet yoself
Sometimes I say things like "I'll stay here as long as you want me here" or "have as much as you'd like" …when there *are* constraints …I'm just basically betting my honor that those constraints are less tight than their want/need.
Retweeted @visakanv
someone once said something like “the alien abduction experience so many people report experiencing does seem remarkably simi…
Replying to @instar_imago
@NibiruDakini @visakanv I have attempted to write a very very general tweet on this topic:
Replying to @instar_imago
@NibiruDakini @visakanv @SarahAMcManus this is your vibe ^
damn we need more visualizations like this @LordChisholm this is totally your aesthetic
Retweeted @maxkriegers
extinguish banality before it extinguishes you
@akivaw @maxkriegers I don't quite have sound effects but I definitely have a sort of spatial proprioceptive sense of numbers interacting when I do mental math
@pragueyerrr @Danno28_ I think often those constraints go without saying, eg like if you say "I'll sit with you as long as you need" well like eventually you'll need to sleep (and pee) but so will they. If the constraints are already basically common-knowledge and known-spacious, I think it's fine.
@AskYatharth I should start a whole zoo of useful tautologies.
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Plz share your finest memetic creatures that want to be in my Zoo of Useful Tautologies.
@grnbee it was a PSA announcement over the loudspeaker, so all that happened was this tweet
couldn't agree more twitter.com/TasteGrass/sta…
Just bared my soul to @this_is_silvia and am excited-nervous to find out what my vibe portrait looks like.
@SarahAMcManus maybe this is kinda how you feel sometimes? 💞🌼💎👁️
@AndyAyrey and the rain, rain, rain came down, down, down in rushing, rising riv'lets til the river crept out of its bed and crept right into piglet's
@utotranslucence yeah that's probably currently the best thing
@utotranslucence except if it's "connect with this person" or some other thing you don't have a static address for beyond the city itself
@meekaale @AbstractFairy @QiaochuYuan @hypothes_is I tried @hypothes_is years ago and found it weird. Seem's @BlackForestBoi's @worldbrain / Memex is aimed to be something much better, and I'm excited about it though it still hasn't clicked into a workflow for me personally as a user.
@Conaw @morgallant I'm actually not in Waterloo anymore! Moved out to BC end of last year. Some Torontonians: @voyageur_techno @beehtrix @itsarnavb Story of how/why I moved: malcolmocean.com/2021/01/2020-f…
@embryosophy @visakanv baahahahaha I had forgotten about this. amazing
@haig @visakanv seems to me it's kinda both; that womb experiences have an oceanic oneness is proof that's part of what's possible for consciousness to experience; that adulthood involves (unless you're enlightened or tripping balls) more feelings of separateness expands consciousness-space more
@mindnotmad @LordChisholm might wanna play with you ❤️🔥
@Buddh_ish @diviacaroline Yes! Another classic. Also Introduction to General Systems Theory by Gerald M. Weinberg
@diviacaroline Joanna Macy's incredible Mutual Causality in Buddhism and General Systems Theory: The Dharma of Natural Systems one of the coolest books I've read amzn.to/3cs5Q9m
Retweeted @this_is_silvia
sometimes I can barely believe that there is all this life out there waiting for me to just dance with it
I love the genre of twitter bios parodying "RTs are not endorsements" or "my opinions are not that of my employer" might collect some funny ones in this thread, feel free to share ones you've seen or come across in the future
"RTs are me enthusiastically consenting"
@p_millerd @m_ashcroft @jongold yeah just squeeze it out and the air takes care of the rest may work better for curlz like ours tho
Retweeted @Meta_Pancake
McGilchrist predicted the bell curve meme: "...something that arises out of the world of the right hemisphere, is process…
can I put my ooda loop in ur ooda loop 😏🤭😳
@CXGonzalez_ @selentelechia I mean you don't want only positive/reinforcing feedback loops. balancing feedback loops also important
Ahem. Sir. "label-free" does not mean what you think it means.
@nickcammarata you might like a song I'm working on that's about inhabiting the space of love on your own so that you can be IN LOVE with anyone else who is also in love rough demo here—would love to add your voice to the chorus!
@pragueyerrr I have a thread about how people are confusing legibility with validity and that's fucking them up.
Retweeted @nickcammarata
Beauty is often the catalyst for discovery and exploration, and science is the tool we use to study it - gpt3
Retweeted @shannincurry
I am in love and it’s with everything and everyone
it's funny when people see I built a productivity app and then they think I'll be on top of to-dos all GTD-style I just do what I feel like and Complice is a way to remind myself what I feel like
Retweeted @btohtoh
@Malcolm_Ocean's advice helped me become a lot more cohesive
Replying to @btohtoh
@btohtoh and your questions helped me articulate it! twitter.com/btohtoh/status…
@JamesLohner > Retweets are the purest form of endorsement. My views represent everyone I've ever associated with. This is pretty great actually!
Replying to @geekethics
@geekethics > All views are those of your employer, RTs are condemnation in the strongest terms. Opposite day, nice.
@SarahAMcManus @coponder Yeah, I really grieve the lossy compression thing too. I find it in general to be a pretty sacred act to try anyway. This blog post documents part of my journey around that grief and learning to try anyway. malcolmocean.com/2015/10/whats-…
Replying to @SlowwCo
@SlowwCo Left hemisphere & right hemisphere have diff hardware & run different OSes. LH got an OS upgrade a couple centuries ago and became OP compared to RH and then *shitshow ensued*. RH needs similar upgrade now.
the pulchritude of your multitude
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot topnotch arguendo disclaimer nice
@SarahAMcManus!!! (I had seen other graphics/animations but not this one) t.co/RdrmnqUyWJ
@kadavy @col_fink using a laptop with no externals
@kadavy @col_fink obviously not literally the worst thing people do for their health but it's one of the most straightforwardly-fixable since it doesn't really require any habit changes or whatever (okay, less true for someone whose main vibe is laptop-in-café)
@VividVoid_ in Coastal BC with @LordChisholm & @SarahAMcManus Cascadia unite! (would love to be introduced to other BC folks who DM you)
@dailectic Yup. Very well put.
I think about this thread quite often, probably at least every couple of months. It's on a whole nother level compared to most of what I've seen written on the topic.
I'll leave the implementation details as an exercise for the reader, but there's a bell curve meme to be made around the use of explicit verbal consent—particularly anything permissiony—as the *primary* tool in navigating how to have sexual interactions that are great for all.
@tszzl @diviacaroline @ladybug1776 but then you still say "hill climbing" this is very confusing 🙃
@coponder @twilio Does it actually ring your phone though? That's part of what I think would be so cool.
Replying to @ponekarl
@ponekarl its ok if stuff is hard even tho it kinda feels like it should be easy its ok to go slo its ok to laugh at the whole thing (its also ofc ok to cry)
What does it mean for something to be in order? How do you know?
(saw this awhile ago; it was recently making the rounds again here; I decided to repost with my questions because I think the question here is kinda the wrong question)
Also quite seriously the two types of orders correspond to the brain hemispheres. twitter.com/MetaMammals/st…
Do you take a breath or does something take your breath?
@Jeanvaljean689 whoa, huh, yeah
> through a sense of internal order that we are even capable of recognizing external order + the consequences of there being diff'nt kinds of internal order might be true and even if it isn't literally true it's a cool thing to ponder
@ElodesNL yessss do it
that Because I Got High song did more to keep me away from weed than DARE or my parents ever did
my kingdom for some good electronic music whose lyrics are rich enough to stand on their own as poetry electronic singer-songwriters (probably gonna have to make it myself)
😍 "I sent you some metta yesterday, did you get it?!" 🥰 "uhh not sure… what was the tracking number?"
Did you know: You Are Other People. Most people have some schemas that apply only to self, like "other people can complain and I have to tolerate it but if I complain, they get to shut me down." Or find it hard to be as kind to self as to others. But... you are other people!
that was a great thought can you tweet it so you can be cited cited with a fine because it was a fine thought
Yo fellow Canadians — basic income is on the table! 🇨🇦 💸 Good BATNAs are the only way to stop people taking bad deals. Can't mandate "no offering bad deals". Petition to sign here, which will automatically email your MP based on postal code 🚀 ubiworks.ca/basicincomebill
.@SarahAMcManus and I just drove past a guy whose shirt said on the back: BIGGER THAN GOD and we were like 😳 ...mood.
@SarahAMcManus S: you should ask twitter for ideas of the best thing the front of the shirt could have Yesss, let's do it!
Retweeted @Conaw
Civilization advances with the increase in the number of actions that can be done without thinking. Which implies…
@SarahAMcManus I think there's a (very small) market for music optimized for this that's in the key of B-half-flat.
@embryosophy not[X is Y] for all X, Y
Retweeted @embryosophy
say the map is not the territory without saying the map is not the territory
Replying to @NLRG_
@NLRG_ I'm in
There, out in the darkness A fugitive running Fallen from God Fallen from grace God be my witness I never shall yield 'Til we finally get involved face to face!
@hormeze @nat_sharpe_ @profeshkitten Hey @pragueyerrr more of us
@hormeze @cwage @nat_sharpe_ @profeshkitten Venkat has an evergreen article on why/how people relate like this to flying ribbonfarm.com/2012/05/09/wel…
@rothosphere More seriously/meaningfully:
@PrinceVogel "In the butt" was the first thing that came to mind But like... for reals: make something people want that you want to make and sell it to them.
@the_wilderless Totally depends on context. I don't worry about it much but I sometimes do wonder if I'm sending some unintended signal.
@souljanixon Asking the important questions
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
1/ Insight from metta meditation I suspect a common experience in childhood is for parents to *tell* children that they lo…
What's a hill you considered dying on but didn't?
Poast clothes you feel naked while wearing (Was originally thinking in the "comfy & unconstraining" sense but if some other sense applies, go for it!)
@maxkriegers (link for those unfamiliar - cool stuff!) help.figma.com/hc/en-us/artic…
Core principle from Perceptual Control Theory: You can't control without being controlled. Some autocrats don't get this, and it shows.
@visakanv @nickcammarata @metaphorician @metaLulie +1 to Team VisaNick creating some sort of bootstrappy 4-to-9 manual
@nickcammarata @visakanv @metaphorician @metaLulie Mmmm I'm feeling a welcoming towards you as whole and towards all of your parts that I met in that dialogue and the others implied.
@sokindling Curling is extremely thinky and for that reason imx one of the most satisyfing sports to watch on TV since you can actually strategize with the players—not something that has any pretense of being realistic in a sport like football or hockey.
True of me as well. Had to rederive what loyalty even is in order to understand this.
Though maybe I mean a different thing than Nick. I'd call this thing he's calling loyalty something more like "commitment" or "sticktoitiveness".
I'm also not saying I think people should have a lot of this loyalty thing. Have as much as you non-naively can. The important thing is more like "that peoples' loyalty or lack thereof moves mountains." Who would you move across the world to be with? Who'd move to be with you?
word of the day: underwhimsical what else is at risk of underwhimsicality?
@sarah_cone Legit.
I don't trust anyone who isn't speaking-for-god-but-non-exclusively. (ish, idk) t.co/MABpgnwhUn
@pragueyerrr expert mode is to compliment someone's tattoo by appreciatively bringing up the obscure thing they have a tattoo of before you even know they've heard of it I have done this once and it was definitely the fastest hardest falling-in-love either of us had ever experienced
@mayfer literally jumped down to this paragraph before reading the ones above, for some reason, then back & forth
@AskYatharth Protip: when this happens, save them in a list somewhere for the next time you come across a tweet like this (which happens to me every few months)
@speakerjohnash of course! almost offended you didn't tag me 😜
Retweeted @visakanv
I love people like this with all my heart. People who leave notes for those who come after. We can be such people https://t.c…
Replying to @BenRatkaj
@BenRatkey Experience the majesty
@algekalipso wuriosity is what my brain produced which is a novel compound synthesized from worry & curiosity I guess
@sonyasupposedly gotta be 2020 if whole world under consideration methinks
Retweeted @nickcammarata
@coyotespike @visakanv @metaphorician @metaLulie Usually the answer is creativity. In a high dimensional space there’s (…
Retweeted @metaLulie
thread on how to get 9/10 happy default baseline twitter.com/visakanv/statu…
@haideralmosawi biphasic crew repreSENT! malcolmocean.com/2016/04/polyph…
me to @SarahAMcManus: Canada has a House of Commons, which is kinda like Congress, and... I think we have a Senate? idk wtf the Senate does. why the hell did they try to teach us about that in grade 6 before we could possibly have had enough context to give a fuck?
Retweeted @myceliummage
@3S33R "discipline is the practice of doing what u want" -@forshaper
@forshaper @myceliummage also I'd love to test your music reco algos!
@vgr yeah elbow-bumping is awkward and weird and brings your fucking face closer to their face for a nice swapping of aerosols or droplets defeating the point I think we should have just agreed early on that for anything important we should shake hands then sanitize
@nickcammarata @manylooseends @reasonisfun I recall @tferriss saying years ago the thing to aim for isn't happiness but "excitement", which vibes with this. Also this:
Thread · Coming alive as an ethical framework · 1 of 8 tweets
I wrote a bit more about this later, starting with this tweet:
@the_wilderless I'll put a vote in for Coherence Therapy as a methodology. Both theoretically and from having experienced using the technique and other practices based on its model. lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3…
@visakanv @iOvrThoughtThis off the top of my head, the main ones that converse are @visakanv @VVlifts @introspectVV @GRIFTGURU
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa Annoyed that I can't RT this even if all RT would mean is that it increases the odds it gets seen by the few hundred people following this locked account. Very good shit. Master of transmutation.
@HormoneHangover @HJohnso46619178 I wrote a thread about how this is weird, yeah. People are starving for validation and feel like they are illegitimate because they are illegible, so they invent ever more complex categories. Instead: everyone valid. Dignity for everyone. No exceptions.
@Conaw I want to talk more about how this Encrypted Multiplayer Mobile App vision as part of Roam connects closely with the conversations we've been having recently about bootstrapping collective intelligence. Making Roam good for conversation is vital because
@Conaw Here's a page on my roamblog exploring the question of what "slack but good" would look like, and pretty immediately I concluded: > ultimately a layer on-top of Roam is what's wanted. Or deep deep integration with Roam. If those are even different. intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
Retweeted @MsMelChen
At today’s Loving Day event, @fairforall_org announced the FAIR learning standards informed by 4 core values: Humanity; un…
@maxkriegers @Conaw @thepericulum How did things go with this? Just came across this exchange again.
@_awbery_ Huh, this makes an interesting case suggesting a kind of reversion to static memes... obviously internet-based memes would evolve rapidly, but perhaps not in a particular direction? Not sure I buy it; fitness has to come in somewhere. cc @reasonisfun
@metaLulie lool I've been amused by your purple knuckles avi all day but this was the first time I legit just thought I was looking at a @nosilverv tweet (even tho his avi is completely different now)
I want to see a force-directed graph of how much each scientist trusts or distrusts each other scientist/field/etc would probably reveal some fascinating clusters
@AlmostMedia @nickcammarata Check out this page on Hyperthymic Temperament, which is kind of sustained, very mild hypomania. I read it awhile ago and was like "it's me!" 🤩 Afaict this is what peak performance looks like. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthym…
@mchapiro Say more? I've seen critiques of wealth taxes but not this one.
Replying to @OliverCarefull
@OliverCarefull It's also super FUN!
@OliverCarefull I've almost completely unfollowed everyone I don't feel like I want to *talk* to, even if I kinda like their content.
@vgr Work With Source has a cool model of how leadership in creative initiatives works. It's intriguing in that it's sort of a descriptive framework—something that seems to apply to companies etc whether the people aware of it or not. Short version at workwithsource.com
Retweeted @sharanvkaur
"this boy is one of the things i'm sure i want to have annoying me forever❤️" basically
Still can't quite believe that we (fairly unironically?) (get to) call ourselves ingroup twitter. Like that's not all we call ourselves, but we do call ourselves that. What even are we.
finding the capacity to delight in how bad you are at something you're learning to do is so worth it
Replying to @OliverCarefull
@OliverCarefull you've probably already read this classic but in case somehow not
@davidfactorial @DRMacIver exactly, yup rabbit hole:
Retweeted @azlenelza
Imagine if our digital tools had levels of intensity If you can grab to drag-and-drop objects, what if you could power-grab…
@azlenelza ideas like this are why you're one of my favorite thinkers in this area ❤️🔥
@Conaw Exactly. I'm making headway on it. Over some tipping points but not all. But yeah, this is part of what the NNTD is about, particularly wrt "learning to let it be okay that other people don't trust you in ways you do trust yourself." More capacity to delight when that's there.
Retweeted @VividVoid_
I'm not a theist, but the concept of omnipotence as "God is the one doing all this" rather than "God can do anything" makes…
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna Stared at this for awhile with Sarah and we think we roughly get what's going on (after looking for interpretations on reddit) but I'd still love to hear you expound on how it hits for you.
Replying to @DaltonDEmery
@DaltonDEmery @m_ashcroft @prerationalist o fuc that's good save it for next time someone asks for underrated tweets
@kcorazo great pic - hi!
Replying to @dispirateparts
@dispirateparts @LordChisholm has been teaching me West Coast Swing and it's a very satisfying form of improv partner dance. we've got a good lil learning environment going lots of people do it in Seattle area so probably a great one to pick up socially!
Retweeted @CompliceGoals
"Spell Generator"? you mean Complice Feature Idea Generator 👉🔥🎯 t.co/nN8BzdRGIf
@srameshrr @paulg @Suhail music streaming services do almost nothing new that Winamp wasn't already doing in 2007 except for the part where they have 40M songs built-in (and a couple of auto-radios I guess) I have rants about what better might look like:
@iwangulenko @paulg @Suhail that wisdom, while wise in the original context, utterly does not apply to a situation where most people can't even begin to conceive of the solution, let alone recognize it if it were lying on the ground in front of them
Thread · Things I want to exist: apps, tools, and funding mechanisms · 1 of 21 tweets
jfc my kingdom for x.com/internetraj/st…
Replying to @internetraj
@internetraj @paulg @Suhail 😚👌 such a great fucking example of people being used to something absurdly terrible
Thread · Almost nothing is actually designed · 1 of 7 tweets
Ahhhhh this is a very good article that resets your impressions for how awesome things can be and in the process highlights how little is getting designed under ordinary circumstances. uxdesign.cc/what-would-be-…
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
Ahhhhh this is a very good article that resets your impressions for how awesome things can be and in the process highlig…
@utotranslucence I've just started reading The Overstory at @uncatherio's recommendation, and I think it might be what you're looking for. Not sure about the rest of the chapters precisely but the main character of the first chapter is a chestnut tree whose family cares for it over generations.
Retweeted @Conaw
@webdevMason Friends, be careful with this whole “Speaking reality into existence” thing twitter.com/Conaw/status/1…
Replying to @instar_imago
@NibiruDakini you might like the app I made, complice.co, which is very precisely designed for staying in touch with what you care about (also I'm now backing you on patreon; happy to offer free/discounted subscription to Complice if you want it!)
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna good shit sometimes it's painful not to know disturbing I recently had an experience of this terror that a part of me seemed to have a veto button I didn't trust it to use not understanding what it would take to get it to back off the ledge had to stay calm, gently listen
@AskYatharth without looking at your response mine would be: - Perceptual Control Theory (which is very systemsy cyberneticsy) - Unlocking the Emotional Brain (which shows the deep sense the whole thing makes)
Replying to @cypnk
@cypnk have not yet come up with any ideas what I'd do with this but it seems cool! might be satisfying for writing notes to self before bed without any distraction, but can probably be put to way better use
starting to think maybe the concept of "conspiracy theory" is one worth releasing into the recycling bin of history... time to treat unironic usage of it as a mild-moderate sign of poor epistemics or psyop its frame protests too much: if something's wrong, you can just say so.
Thread · Seeding a walkable co-creative community in coastal BC · 4 of 5 tweets
I'm earnestly working to co-create something along these lines (~ProtoB) in Coastal British Columbia. Get in touch if you know people (or are people) who might be interested. In-person stuff still ultra-preliminary, but have been staring at the culture thing a long time.
I have some draw towards the village vibe but personally am more attracted to town-city scale in a lot of ways. Or really: something that looks more like a campus. Hub of walkable community with a lot of coworking and colearning happening. Trying to sense how to seed this.
Partners in this project so far are @SarahAMcManus & @LordChisholm, and I've already started connecting with a lot of other cool people since arriving in BC last Dec. Sorting out fractal compatibility for this sort of thing seems like a daunting yet exciting challenge.
If you want to know more of my context for moving out here and how I'm thinking about culture and collaboration and Home, my 2020 yearly review blog post has you covered: malcolmocean.com/2021/01/2020-f…
despite words like "decide", OODA loop is not just about conscious cognition—far from it sorta already knew this, but surfing example clicked it clearer for me = stray thought while reading this post: deepcode.substack.com/p/on-the-futur…
@the_wilderless knowing me I'll come across this tweet again in a few years and ping you about it (I could make a point of snoozing it but that's a bit much for my tracking horizons and I'm guessing at some point I'll find these tweets again without trying anyway)
@the_wilderless future-me, it may intrigue you to know that I'm writing this at 2am in the dark at the trailer on salt spring, while listening to Solar Fields while Sarah sleeps, same day we met Prav & bought the very cool rock wizard hoodie... a week after vaccine dose 1
tired: taxing the citizens to pay for shit wired:
ahhh yesss fractal OODA loops, of course
I've been feeling for awhile like OODA loops are probably more important than I give them credit for, but not looking more into them maybe due to vaguely feeling like I should already grok them deeper hm. time for my latest trick!
@RomeoStevens76 yo you got recos for getting up to speed on OODA loops? I made it halfway through Boyd's biography years ago and it was fascinating but I don't think it's quite what I'm looking for
@davidfactorial First though was no. But I guess maybe the motor control of each eye is lateral even though the visual sense perception isn't so simply divided (it's asymmetrical, but more about visual field than separate eyes, and even there lots more going on)
@davidfactorial sounds roughly right yeah!
Replying to @instar_imago
@NibiruDakini it's what I do
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna Ah wow, yeah. Nice work.
@AskYatharth Questions like these and dozens of related ones: > Who would you move across the world to be with? > Who'd move to be with you? Strong loyalty in my frame comes not from commitment but from profound self-understanding and capacity to discern what you will follow through on.
@AskYatharth When someone asks "Will you marry me?" you can frame the response as a commitment... but what if it were just a *fact*? "Will a cup of water left out evaporate?" Yes. Of course. How could it be otherwise? "Will you marry me?" Yes. Of course. How could it be otherwise?
@michael_nielsen @uncatherio @youarezera @Z_Jacobi @ch402 go go gadget GPT-3...?
@SarahAMcManus @DRMacIver This notion was inspired by a conversation with my late* friend @Z_Jacobi who had been reading a book about herders as a fascinating in-between of hunter-gatherers and stay-put agriculturalists. *Z, for the record, was almost never late
Replying to @not_nothingmuch
@mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @vgr I don't mean important like geopolitics, I mean important like meeting someone for the first time.
@the_wilderless there are 3 australians listed in their directory, tho only this one lists Coherence Therapy in particular as a method as opposed to just compatible methods: sensemaking.com.au/melbournethera… can search here: coherencetherapy.org/prac/directory…
@reasonisfun @astupple here's a thread that I already linked earlier this evening, that was in part a reply to Lulie talking about goals goals definitely definitely do not have to be coercive find words that feel fun & exciting to you
@reasonisfun @astupple also there's a straightforward sense in which goals are inevitable, for some meaning of the word goal that's not dissimilar to how I use it (although I usually use it for explicit goals)
@reasonisfun @astupple idk if this will help but here's another thing I said 20 minutes ago and it kind of applies
@reasonisfun @astupple related:
@reasonisfun @astupple ahh more meant to send this one, which is secretly the same thing
@cortexfutura hm not sure what to say except that it's okay to be doing what you're doing, it's okay to want it to be different, it's okay to figure out the entire path of that however you in fact figure it out try stuff it's okay not to know how yet
@nosilverv strong agree (except for a quibble about how technically the evaluation is actually rational within this frame that you don't realize you're using)
About to do some outdoor computing. Haven't yet figured out my plan for how to arrange everything, but I've made dozens of makeshft standing desks before so I'm sure I'll figure it out. ift.tt/35GJRpV
@sensefulronin Yep, they're in the BC Interior, up in the mountains, which has a completely different climate. We want green+grey winters instead of white+blue winters. I'm sure there'll be some cross-pollination though!
conflict theorist in the streets mistake theorist in the sheets
ok this works I guess but I had to go somewhere completely different after half an hour because the sun came out and my computer started being heated from the outside in instead of the reverse not gonna be here long enough to warrant major construction, but this is fun
Replying to @michaelcurzi
@michaelcurzi I voted Austin first because I might be in SF sometime in Aug and we could hang.
shitpost hoc ergo shitpropter hoc
Shall I get this top? 5 mins or so to advise
Replying to @ellegist
@ellegist Hmmm and I feel like I keep knowing a ton of amazing men... some sort of business opportunity here. Gonna tag in my friend @LordChisholm as a start.
@visakanv @this_is_silvia Ooooooh. I've been big into jewelry in other phases of my life, but lately quite enjoying being unencumbered. But I guess I've often had stuff I wear constantly, and it could be fun to have bigger bling I break out for special occasions.
Update: this extremely fashionable object is now mine.
Listening to excellent Balaji interview (HT @conaw) Old economy: rising looks like earning a piece of the state New economy: rising looks like getting a piece of the *network*. Not asking others to give up anything except control over you. youtu.be/CHQi1HnCZGY
"Nationalism is fundamentally particularist." - Balaji (about 1h27 in this vid) youtu.be/CHQi1HnCZGY
Retweeted @thinkagainer
seems like many men get into lifting assuming women will care and are proven wrong what goes the opposite way? what do w…
@visakanv Huh, yeah. There's some useful stuff with it (I like the book Rethinking Narcissism, which reframes as a spectrum with 2 unhealthy extremes (the other "echoism" ofc)) but it ends up too pathologizing to be useful for much other than dismissing someone as not worth your time.
@visakanv To be clear: being able to dismiss someone as not worth your time is HUGE and if someone needs tools for this, Godspeed & feel free to use this one. Just… yeah. Similar to how internalizing feedback of others calling me an asshole was not progress even tho it was trying to be.
Retweeted @LordChisholm
is anyone every doing anything that isn't fucking around and finding out?
I put the revelry in revelation
Hey @Meaningness I realized your bit about committing to confused stances is v relevant to a piece I'm writing. Is there more than this glossary bit? > Committing to a stance means resolving to adopt it consistently, whenever the dimension of meaningness it addresses comes up.
Replying to @utotranslucence
@utotranslucence Committing to putting it all in prediction markets seem like the obvious way to align the incentives.
@coponder Ooooh this is very cool. Reminds me a little of a concept @LordChisholm and I were talking about tonight of him having a reverse podcast where the guests all interview him. Podcast could be one frame for it or something. Anyway, lmk if u wanna think with me about something!
@hyperdiscogirl Yay 🌷 Your poasting feels sweet to me, in somewhat the same sense as in the "a rose by any other name" quote.
@BinarySmile My fav so far
@rhymeswithvocal Pay It Forward did it for me in highschool. I usually sob to songs more than movies though. If you twitter search "songs to sob to" you'll find an extensive list by me & @QiaochuYuan & others
@made_in_cosmos Hmmm yeah I guess I had been imagining them going straight from food to fetus, but what does that pipeline actually look like? Bio 3D printers are so fascinating
@michaelcurzi I forget where but years ago I read a thing that was like "For most of human history, one of the main reasons to seek power was access to sexual partners. Why are we so surprised when our politicians engage with the same instincts?" Not saying it's good, but yeah.
@RichDecibels @enspiral @joshuavial If you imagined there being 5-10 other collectives kind of like Enspiral, what dimensions of similarities and differences would make for the most epic meta-collective? Like what commonalities would be needed, vs where would diversity be an asset?
Retweeted @RomeoStevens76
Metta
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
Behind every great left hemisphere is a right hemisphere rolling its eyes.
@metaLulie If not we'll have to invent one! 🤩🚀 My mission is basically to make a network of companies where everyone I know can work their dream job, whatever that is.
Sooo I have noticed that when I walk around naked I tend to feel way more expanded awareness. @m_ashcroft is this expected? plz advise
@michael_nielsen @uncatherio @youarezera @Z_Jacobi @ch402 I just recently read The Inner Ring, and I'd be very curious what your alternate version is like!
@mattgoldenberg @m_ashcroft @MarieKondo @pjeby Insofar as you know me and didn't tag me, I'm sincerely curious in what ways you think I don't get this right! I'm not asserting I certainly do, but I broadly resonated with what you wrote here. Maybe mostly bc my main offering is an app? 🙃 (app predates me grokking this fwiw)
@mattgoldenberg @m_ashcroft @MarieKondo @pjeby I've also found, both w Complice & simpler workflows, that sometimes a tool can solve the problem in a sort of straightforward way, & it's worth trying that. eg if someone is bouncing around because it hasn't occurred to them to try "pick a next action"… there are tools for that
@mattgoldenberg @m_ashcroft @MarieKondo @pjeby but then if that encounters resistance, on whatever level including ~mysteriously~ they stop using the tool, that's a sign that they're overriding some other careabouts, either by how they're using the tool or by the choices of things they're trying to do. then it's emotion time!
@mattgoldenberg @m_ashcroft @MarieKondo @pjeby Ahh gotcha, makes sense. Yeah, the GCI course I guess isn't emotion-first in terms of its content (reflects where we were at when we first made it) but it does function as a gateway drug for people who are looking for tools/cogstrats to get introduced to emotions by coaches 😜
Retweeted @mattgoldenberg
1/ My timeline is full of productivity advice related to making lists, writing thing down, and getting accountability p…
whatever is true or false about the "power corrupts" meme, you have to acknowledge that such a meme would tend to have the effect of keeping conscientious ethically-minded people from seeking power kinda sus, no? t.co/iifC6KiQPE
if you don't know the concept of EROEI you are not equipped to think about the future of energy (even if you do have the concept, you're probably still not really equipped—it's necessary but hardly sufficient. I don't think I'm fully equipped, to be clear)
Thread · Perceptual Control Theory inverts the logic of reinforcement
Reinforcement learning is backwards because it implicitly says "when reward, behavior change" when actually, change is the *default*, and the thing being called "reward" says "stop changing, you found it" This figure-ground inversion is key.
The whole concept here of PCT (Perceptual Control Theory) is that brains are in some state of organization that is set up to produce a set of controlled perceptions, like getting money to buy food to not be hungry, or telling jokes to make people laugh to feel connection.
When something is perceived to be at an unwanted level (eg hunger, safety, connection, thirst, sex, meaning) the system goes into a state of reorganization, inhibiting old strategies and trying new ones. Once the error is resolved, the music stops and the organization stays.
This is independent from whether the new strategy is actually the thing that solved the problem (which is where superstitions come from).
There's also a question of what happens when two strategies for two different needs conflict. Often this produces oscillatory tug-of-war dynamics, but if you can gently hold all of the desiderata at once, there's usually some sort of win-win to be found.
One important implication of this whole thing is that you can only motivate/train someone with reward *to the extent that they are otherwise deprived of the thing* and they don't have a better alternative to doing what you want so you give them the thing
When I learned this model, I still had a lot of questions. One of them was something like "then why do people get stuck? why don't they just reorganize out of stuckness?" So far I think the answer is something like "very sticky memes":
Something I don't yet fully understand theoretically but feel an embodied impression of is like, once all of someone's basic needs are met—a tall order not just due to physical constraints & scarcity but due to internal conflicts produces contradictory self-sabotaging strategies—
…once all of someone's basic needs are met… what then produces reorganization? I roughly sense that people have other drives such as wonder, compassion, grandeur, and so on, that mean even if they're in some sense totally satisfied, they still have things they want to achieve.
People often protectively try to avoid "reinforcing" people's strategies that they see as coercive or unethical, but that's backwards. Sure, as long as that strategy works they'll keep doing it, but the bigger issue is not having another strategy that works BETTER.
From a personal standpoint, what I try to do is instead of trying to shift others' behavior, I let them know what's working or not working *for me* about their behavior, and what I'm prepared to do about that (eg take space in relationship) and let their system reorganize.
This is oversimplified & probably my instructions above won't be compilable on most peoples' cognitive runtimes atm, but I wanted to get out a rough sketch of my thinking here. Grokking the backwardsness of "reinforcement" is vital to noncoercive behavior change in self & other.
@AskYatharth Alldick Noballs
@AskYatharth But it's a long story and too hard to explain that it wasn't "Aldrick" so in later years I just called myself Ocean and people thought it was a playa name ofc but it was just my (chosen) last name. Turns out you can just introduce yourself however you want!
@AskYatharth Oh and I had a brief stint as Connoisseur which was short for Connoisseur of Pussy Juice
Retweeted @visakanv
everyone gets “stuck” when they are 1. unwilling or unable to define the problem 2. unwilling or unable to solicit the rig…
@visakanv this quote isn't nearly as good of an insight as the one you've just had due to limitations in the concept of how to operationalize "motivate" & "train"
@sashintweets studies show most studies are bad journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/a…
Retweeted @metaLulie
serious Q: Why are some people only able to remix the thoughts of others? (at least in what they say out loud..?) They c…
@metaLulie I have no idea. I am profoundly incapable of producing almost any work that doesn't feel original. I've had lots of inspirations, ofc, and I cite them, but I can't write a book summary for the life of me. Almost-exceptions are 2 tweetstorms—this one:
@DRMacIver This tweet, and the 4 that follow it, do a good job of tying the left hemisphere's worldview to today's societal issues.
@metaLulie —and this one. Both are basically abridging an already short piece (<20mins to read) into a shorter one with exact same structure. But I almost never write from scratch a piece introducing someone else's idea.
@metaLulie This has sometimes been frustrating, since sometimes I get excited about a book and want to hype it up but I get bogged down trying to write up a summary. Happened with PCT in 2017. Found alternative for McGilchrist in 2019: I just excite-tweeted "omg this relates to X, Y, Z"
@DeeDrisc @visakanv solicit feedback, as per the first tweet
Replying to @HipCityReg
@HipCityReg No.
am I missing something about why this isn't a good idea? (also Cory uses a very loud conflict theory frame in his threads, which I have mixed feels about)
smells like an unchecked positive feedback loop
@metaLulie Conversation seems to help, whether it's someone being wrong on the internet or someone inquiring about something. Started explaining an implication of PCT to @RicVolpe on a call today, then went to write a tweet of a phrase, then wrote a whole thread!
@_StevenFan @metaLulie this is a great model! or something like, they simply don't have their own frame in the first place, and so they take in others' ideas on those ideas' terms, and regurgitate them the same vs having a sense of a personal set of implications of those ideas
@_StevenFan @metaLulie I wonder if it's related to this... ...guessing they're separate axes, but idk!
@context_ing I saw this tweet was a reply to a deleted tweet and guessed it was you before that was even visible I still feel kinda betrayed that you went & deleted all your tweets
@visakanv @captain_mrs @metaLulie at your service
There's only one good thing about Twitter DMs as a medium (aside from the people u can reach) of the half-dozen reactions it has, one is 🔥 countless projects lost momentum & never got off the ground because they chatted on other platforms without this feature I'm not joking
@hormeze ugh yeah. only good thing about twitter DMs is this:
Thread · Redesigning Twitter DMs as private tweets
Time to put on Hot Like Sauce and ideate for 7 minutes about an alternative Twitter DM system.
I could rant about all the problems I'd fix: - tweet/link previews above instead of below - can't see history if added to group DM - loading issues - no threading or specific-message-replying - no search - & countless more BUT! My man @hormeze demanded a total ground up version.
Okay so look guys, this is twitter. Why are the DMs even messages as opposed to just-between-the-two-of-us tweets? That seems like the starting point for ground-up redesign. Take advantage of epic threading & replying & resurfacing capability, & search comes for free!
Then could add all sorts of cool shit like the ability to later *publish* certain of the DMs that you wrote (with context obscured) or even mutually agree to publish a whole segment of conversation as ordinary tweets!
However! It's not that simple. In addition to DMs making it easier to express your thoughts by being private, they *also* make it easier to express your thoughts because you can publish (to the convo) simply by pressing *enter*. FB did that with comments to reduce friction
Plus of course there's a simplicity to just being able to type back & forth. And how do you handle parallel replies? I think you'd need a whole different tweet composer, basically, to solve this, that would turn out to be huge for ordinary tweeting too.
A tweet composer where enter is send (and shift-enter is newline). Not ideal by default outside DMs but a cool mode. And then maybe some way to indicate which specific message you're replying to, because everyone knows that good chat convos get 2-3 topics in parallel. "Tracks?"
Okay, song's over. I don't know what that UI should look like exactly but Glue is probably good partial inspiration. (Plus other improvements like @TwemexApp & @thlpr add)
Also bring more reactions to tweets.
@LordChisholm @baroquespiral Yeah coaches can in principle and sometimes in practice do better than therapists. Varies wildly by school & by practitioner in both cases. And it's conceivable to build a culture where friend interactions are profoundly therapeutic as well. Some of us are working on this.
@tasshinfogleman @profeshkitten boom! link to png for adding to slack: drive.google.com/file/d/1Zt7MTS…
@tasshinfogleman @profeshkitten looks... ok, at small sizes. not inclined to spend more time on it tho
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth was this ^ prompted by this?
@AltYatharth despite being a very sensual & flirtatious dude in person, I had a weird disjoint where my erotic energy was almost completely blocked online, I think because when I first started tweeting & similar it was all very Professional. I'm just now taking baby steps to untangle that!
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth Yes! Would love to hear it.
@AltYatharth And posting those tweets today was part of me exploring that space. I didn't feel totally comfortable it either, but I was uhhh roleplaying someone who felt chill about it, to see what it would be like to tweet those while feeling chill about it.
@AltYatharth Did feel quite good (including slightly nervous in a good way) tweeting this awhile back.
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth > to see what it would be like to tweet those while feeling chill about it. I maybe meant to write "tweet those AS IF I was feeling chill about it" something subtle here about expanded inhibition in the AT sense, and not repressing the parts that weren't feeling chill
@made_in_cosmos holy shit that's so true aaaaaalmost as crazy as plants being made of carbon sucked out of the air almost
@hormeze @gptbr00ke @QiaochuYuan @sashachapin @incertaspecie @eigenrobot @danlistensto I really enjoyed how around the same time you tweeted this you tweeted the prompt. I enjoy being prompted like this. Very fun exercise to play with.
@deevbrain @RomeoStevens76 🤩🤩🤩 you're on twitter! hi 🙃
@metaLulie @AskYatharth In my (extensive 😆) experience it's not exactly total unconflictedness but a kind of understanding that your parts will be able to figure out how to make good on what you've agreed to even given whatever conflicts are there (and only agreeing to things for which this is true)
@AskYatharth I assume you meant "I’m NOT saying it’s unreasonable to continue. Just that it’s coercive." There's also something here about welcoming the entire experience of disgust while doing the thing, vs trying to do the thing without feeling the disgust. The coercion is in the "try"?
@visakanv yeah I have been feeling into this recently and realizing that I've been slightly self-censoring myself on takes that are maybe cancellable but meanwhile I realized that everyone I actually care about or whose opinion I respect has way more nuance than that, & that's what matters
@visakanv (the takes are mostly extremely meta ones anyway like this one, although I have less meta stuff too)
@visakanv I already have been with private DM groups & similar, and feel a lot of sense of samepageness with people. It's not just abstract nuance I know my friends have—at this point I've had lots of in-depth conversations critiquing the Discourse
@visakanv I think it's partially a matter of like, my public sense of safety hasn't caught up with this new reality. I used to fear that many of my intelligent/trusted friends maybe bought into various loud social movements, but now I know dozens who don't and none who do 🙃
@visakanv I think you saying you'll stand up for people makes a difference too, because ofc it's possible to have all sorts of conversions with people behind closed doors and have them say nothing if the mob comes for you. (I don't particularly fear this but I feel the reality of it)
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth "someone else" other than Malcolm?
Retweeted @RichDecibels
@ellegist other people's success is intimidating to the degree that you don't know who you are and what work is yours to…
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth something that's also missing is the context of the whole thing, which was very contextual I felt aware of that in tweeting my answers although also that's part of the nature of playa names, is that you usually hear what they are before you get the context (if you even do)
This has also been my experience of wearing dresses (and more outlandish outfits, for that matter). Turns out if you walk around vibing like you're dressed how you're supposed to be, it's usually remarkably uneventful. twitter.com/nat_sharpe_/st…
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AltYatharth hadn't quite grokked the HGP but just looked it up and I think I see what you mean
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@AltYatharth Right, yeah. I'm very curious what else has given you this vibe!
@cognazor yeah she legit tags it as "what the Buddhists call enlightenment" though it seems to me that effectively working with multiple paradigms doesn't necessarily come from seeing through their flimsiness
@photomatt @dayoneapp @automattic Huh, @kpaxle this reminds me of what you were trying to do awhile back!
I was initially 🤨 to "paradigms are basically just mental models" but on reflection I think it's spot on. Misleading tho given qualitative diffs between the kinds of mental models people write listicles about and foundational embodied cosmic assumptions. t.co/WD2QlZK6iW
Maybe the way to do it is to say "mental models are basically just microparadigms". Get people used to thinking of their use of multiple mental models as being a multi-paradigmatic activity! twitter.com/SissiPhys/stat…
The huge gaps in people being able to go meta in intellectual domains but not social/emotional/ontological ones is an important thing that needs addressing by any hierarchical developmental model. (MHC better than Kegan for this, probably) twitter.com/SissiPhys/stat…
Thread · Photos of my most outrageous outfits
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ the first one that comes to mind is when I went back to someone's place after being at a Halloween warehouse party in SF and the only outfit I had to ride the BART home the next morning was, uhh...
@nat_sharpe_ also here's me with my face & arm died purple (backstory involves an engineering student tradition in Canada)
@nat_sharpe_ and here's me in homemade tie-dye and a utilikilt and some sort of funky rainbow pants sticking out underneath the kilt sometimes I just walk around like this, like it's not even a special event; lots of these days probably have no photos
@nat_sharpe_ me and my grandfather (also: my department had a formal "black tie" event as part of my final year of engineering school, and iirc I went wearing a black tie ✅ but also this outrageous blazer and the kilt 🤪)
@nat_sharpe_ Oh wait no I guess I had a white tie. Here's me scootering home from that event.
@nat_sharpe_ this photo was almost certainly staged but this was just the outfit I had on that day it's not *that* weird on one level but unlike just dress-on-a-man, this is an outfit combo that I'm probably literally the only person who's ever worn it
@nat_sharpe_ for reference, here's most of my shirts from 2016 when I did KonMari
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ @jimmygunawanapp I'm down!
Replying to @pli_cachete
@Tjdriii long haired men club represent!
I was once running full-tilt back home to fetch some hot pepper jelly that wanted to be on top of some brie at @tessafyi's place, and crossing a street I leaned too far forward and knew I was gonna fall, tucked & rolled right back into sprinting. Must've looked like a stuntman.
@hormeze In highschool I noticed that I would sometimes pursue gorgeous molecules on the internet (wikimedia mostly) in a way that felt exactly similar to how I browsed porn... galleries, opening new tabs, closing the least exciting ones, saving my favorites. one fav: uranocene
@SpencrGreenberg the obvious thing imo is investigating the extent to which IQ tests mostly measure "The Desire To Pass Tests" or some property downstream thereof. not sure how you'd test it though, since that seems to induce paradox hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/post/113360634…
@SpencrGreenberg maybe something like, give people a task that is OBVIOUSLY SO EASY THAT ANYONE COULD EFFORTLESSLY DO IT then say they don't actually have to complete the task but they can if they want, and see who completes it anyway
how would you investigate The Desire To Pass Tests, given the obvious paradox involved
@sharanvkaur any/all of the above, depending on what's being referred to and this
Retweeted @AskYatharth
If you face /any resistance at all/ to a task, you’re not fully bought into it. Or you’d be spontaneously doing it. To b…
Retweeted @deevbrain
question I’ve no right to ask and no one has any obligation to answer: is Roam #𐃏 the new Arbital? where does it fall short…
@deevbrain @Conaw @ESYudkowsky Definitely on track to surpass. Currently is a bit rougher and some of the features that were native in Arbital aren't yet available or only via plugin. Does have sliders which can be used for polling people's agreement with a given statement or whatever.
@deevbrain @Conaw @ESYudkowsky Already more powerful in terms of having bidirectional linking and block references, which allow a whole different level of going meta on stuff and constructing ideas extensionally, by referencing them dozens of times without ever explicating a definition. lesswrong.com/posts/HsznWM9A…
@DRMacIver Memes are starting to do the consciously-truth-seeking thing as opposed to the propagating-blindly thing. We've gotten worse at this in some ways in recent decades, but overall we know increasingly more about it over the last centuries, which is itself an example of the thing!
I consume 1 banana per day a banana tree produces about 240 bananas in 9 months which means that roughly speaking my diet requires the existence of 1 banana tree (though ofc it's actually 2% of 50 banana trees)
@DrewCoffman a few blurred together but I remember that probably in the early 00s we temporarily had UNLIMITED FREE INTERNET via a hot pink cd-rom that displayed an ad window while you browsed. harbinger of times to come tbh for me, mostly neopets at first
Replying to @sheherenow_
@jongold @DrewCoffman say more! what do you imagine that looking like?
@alt_tatsu fucking gorgeous I'd RT this hard if it weren't locked
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ @peachblvd yeah I think I'm supposedly kinda autumn-color palette, complexion-wise, butfuckit
@uberstuber I honestly figured as of sometime in high school I'd wasted more time reading productivity articles than I'd ever get back, but tbh probably I wouldn't have been able to start Complice without all that background knowledge so... 🤷♀️
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
friends are the best lovers are just friends you can kiss and fuck partners are lovers you aspire to love for the r…
for what it's worth I'm basically in general down to design-ideate like this ❤️🔥 for any product I use ever or problem I have myself, I probably have unusual opinions on how it could be actually good though—just ask! (you can pick the soundtrack too if you want, tho I may veto)
@diviacaroline hmmmmmm but you have to do it in a way that people would be motivated to react quickly even if they don't care about their score dodgeball maybe?
@Conaw @visakanv yeah, only good for bios etc because short & opaque
Replying to @ryn__x
@context_ing Yeah, makes sense you're not sure what to say. I like your replies and do want them to exist, and I guess at this point I'm kinda treating your account as ephemeral since I'm used to @context_ing-shaped holes in old threads? Feeling tender, sad. Grief at finitude.
Replying to @AltYatharth
@AskYatharth I had an experience of starting to see that in March 2018, specifically re bodhisattva. Vibes with this, too:
Retweeted @AskYatharth
I never liked thinking of the boddhisatva vows a choice. They’re more a description. Of a readiness of “Oh, even if I wan…
Retweeted @AskYatharth
Instead of the conscious mind tugging the unconscious along, the conscious mind noticing what is already true about the un…
@AskYatharth Nice. Yeah, same core.
@Conaw @B_rade8 @fortelabs @wandcrafting @houshuang Yeah 256 is correct for threads / group membership. But insofar as communicating in a group involves—and it does involve—tracking things like these - "what does A know about B & C's relationship?" - "what common knowledge do D & E have about F?" …it does go factorial!
@ElodesNL @gas_bitch @AltYatharth @GoldenbergMalt damn, so curious about these @gas_bitch tweets interleaved in my mentions sent a follow request; chill if you don't know me well enough to approve 👍
What's a popular band that you don't at all identify with liking, but you consistently enjoy their music when it comes on? For me it's gotta be Maroon 5. eg I super dig the fill & bass at 1:24. youtube.com/watch?v=ubhkgu…
@CountJ0ecool You might like this article I wrote a few years ago about automatic updates. medium.com/@Malcolm_Ocean…
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ Nothing needs to be added to you, or subtracted from you. What would that even mean, you're a person not a number 🤭
we = the ones who are here to work together here = where we're gonna work together work = whatever we're gonna do here together
@speakerjohnash I kinda feel like this is true by definition
@ElodesNL @gas_bitch @AltYatharth @GoldenbergMalt I feel like this is pretty welcome among me and the men I hang out with, tho agreed in general.
A tiny meditation invitation, if you'll pause here for a moment. Think of some of the people you know, here or elsewhere. Who is someone you deeply hope to be still in touch with, if not much closer to, in 5-10 years? Do you know? What does it make sense to do, given that?
Replying to @gas_bitch
@gas_bitch @KenBearIsland @AltYatharth @ElodesNL @GoldenbergMalt Damn, I have such respect for how much respect you have ❤️🔥
all I wanna do is zoom-a-zoom zoom zoom, in a zoom room!
Retweeted @Lithros
@chaosprime how was I to know they would someday classify my outgroup as human beings worthy of dignity and respect?
Tickets now available for midyear Goal-Crafting Intensives, a unique online workshop that doesn't exhaust you with hours of zoom, but instead gives you space to work on sorting out your life, plus a private channel with coaches to get unstuck or advice! complice.co/event/gci2021m…
Usually the copy on the pages is pretty generic, because everybody's life is so different and this is an extremely general & open-ended workshop, but ofc, the last year there has been a global *situation*, into which I can write something more apropos (still varies by country)
Realizing that part of why I have trouble summarizing things is that I want others to love the originals as much as I do and am worried that my summary will result in people rejecting the thing for reasons I don't think it deserves rejection. & be like "nooo he addresses that!"
Curious where this belief comes from, specifically. I do remember when I was stoked about PCT in 2017 fearing rationalist skepticism about it, and also seeing that someone had already written some summaries on LW.
Maybe part of what's going on here is a kind of *attachment* to the outcome of others reading & liking the original, which puts me in an argumentative mode rather than a more exploratory/curious mode.
The curious mode is definitely a lot more like what my twitter threads about McGilchrist have been like. Even though they have moments of conveying something like a "response to potential rejection"
@zsviczian Nice! Just used this. I added these lines to 4.1 because the book I was using had all of its headings in ALL CAPS. !pip install titlecase from titlecase import titlecase then below stripTags: if (heading > 0): para = titlecase(para)
Replying to @thisisntsilvia
@thisisntsilvia @joespurpleshirt oh man I agree but also 🍆➡️🚀
Retweeted @Conaw
“Fuck around and find out” is a noble virtue in truth-seeking civilizations. Few seem to know this.
Retweeted @m4ttk3nt
Replying to @KenBearIsland
@KenBearIsland @cumdunker I have a hazy sense that "gods"/"God" may be central to the difference here monotheism + "god-as-female" doesn't have much history, and trying to tack femininity onto eg Christianity is a bit of a stretch (👇 dark archetypes in god-as-(abusive)-father) srconstantin.wordpress.com/2017/09/12/pat…
@speakerjohnash totally or define a problem as the enemy (eg War On Drugs)
@weebertarian I hereby opt in
@_StevenFan @liminal_warmth @a_yawning_cat
@AdeleDeweyLopez I got a way better sense of that last week listening to this interview where he talks about how engaging in any entrepreneurship in communist china was punishable by death. Like I sorta knew but it gave a way more vivid sense of things. youtube.com/watch?v=CHQi1H…
Retweeted @piazzatron
@eriktorenberg Jeff Mermelstein's been hammering on this idea for a while now, albeit from a very different direction. High…
@patrickCDEmath fridge light maybe chooseyourmetaphor.com/refrigerator-l…
@speakerjohnash you son of a bitch, I'm in
@AskYatharth I'm not certain but it feels to me like "only a noticing" can go too far and put Will in its shadow. Somehow this feels related:
@AskYatharth respecting the actual thing & not getting too confused by the appearance of the thing while also noting that sometimes it's possible to get confused & think the actual thing is the appearance, etc, ad infinitum
@AskYatharth Ah the Visa thing is related to "making good on"
@Meaningness I'll email you a draft of something I've written about this as well. May be of use either in being clear or in being confused!
Thread · How naming a problem can reinforce it · 3 of 4 tweets
people usually frame challenging situations in ways that reinforce those challenges
this can happen from the frame of the person with the problem (eg "incel") or can be the result of the problem being framed from the issues it causes others (eg "ADHD")
arguably "incel" is actually inside out too, in a different way—the focus on one's own inability to get sex is like a teacher focusing on their inability to get the "ADHD" student's attention/obedience
@visakanv (kept this tweet open in a tab for a few days because I knew I wanted to generalize a thing about it, and finally figured out how to put it!)
Retweeted @nickcammarata
I wish it were possible to financially bet on non-consensus scientific theories that return if future consensus increases
@EvyWallace @VanJones68 @CharlesMBlow @Trevornoah @JonBatiste Why?
@CountJ0ecool related
Following this account, at least for now. I value being in touch with a wide range of perspectives, and behind-bars is definitely a perspective I mostly have had little access to. (Except for a few short calls with a friend who I sent some books to while he was in jail.)
suddenly thinking of this scene from Avatar
Retweeted @bmann
Noodled around with some ideas for the tweetstorm builder / blog cross poster I'm looking to build. I'm using "Stormthreads" as…
@bmann Autosave fo sho. One of my main issues with twitter threads is I get halfway through drafting, then have to switch tasks, and end up storing draft elsewhere. Maybe even keep separate versions every few minutes going back, so if you accidentally delete something it's still there.
@bmann & say more about the Open Collective approach? I've been thinking about online meta-teams / collectives...
@tszzl guy who has a detailed article about this moultano.wordpress.com/2020/10/18/why…
from an article that elaborates on this moultano.wordpress.com/2020/10/18/why…
Retweeted @RobertGReeve
I'm back from a week at my mom's house and now I'm getting ads for her toothpaste brand, the brand I've been putting in m…
> In this formulation, it is interesting to note that Hughes does not frame privacy as a right to be respected by others, but as a power to be exercised by individuals. Quote from coincenter.org/the-case-for-e… referring to activism.net/cypherpunk/man… and related to below thread by me:
tired: inner monologue wired: inner dialogue
@metaLulie @nickcammarata @visakanv @metaphorician initially thought I'd find you in the QTs but then I was like "wait she has multiple decent-sized accounts"
@tasshinfogleman I accept!
@stewfortier Wait, what do you mean literally nothing changed? 🧐 You never open the chromebook and it just sits gathering dust? You open it but then you pull out your phone and check slack/email/twitter there? You manage to bypass things somehow and access twitter on it anyway?
@myceliummage ratio checks out
@michael_nielsen @stewartbrand Huh, struck by how well designed the set-up was—the person is leaning forward so far that they *have* to be be struggling to pull/push/(carry, ish) something, otherwise their center of gravity would be off and they'd fall over. Which suggests a whole situation.
@michael_nielsen @stewartbrand Oh! Another option—struggling against wind (visible via tumbleweeds) Surprised nobody (at least in the 4mins I've watched so far) found the other solution to the center-of-gravity puzzle, which is to rotate the whole situation so person is walking uphill.
@michael_nielsen @stewartbrand I noticed a pattern of circle/sphere in the top right and looked up the original animation, and sure enough! Perhaps why so many of them went sci-fi.
@michael_nielsen @stewartbrand but actually what prompted me to notice the sphere was this brilliant extremely un-scifi take on it
@stewfortier Huh, seems like the sort of thing that could benefit from an experiment, of like, what happens if you try for a week opening the chromebook before you touch any other devices. Aim to just write a minimum of 1 sentence, and see what happens. Maybe keep a list of prompts on paper.
for future searchability ^ I keep trying to find this tweet by searching what are you amplifying what am I amplifying and maybe @visakanv
Retweeted @eriktorenberg
Want book recommendations? Reply below w/ 1-3 of your favorite books that hint at what kinds of books you're looking to…
Retweeted @SarahAMcManus
nooooooo, my love! lost to the blue blob mafia!!! 😭
@tasshinfogleman oh man I see what you mean but this would be awful for how 99% of twitter uses twitter
@egocv @mechanical_monk @SeanMombo Yeah, depends on how close the friend and my read of gf's vibe... ...but in general, there's a wonderfully ambiguous gesture that involves putting your right arm up & out and left one slightly down & out, that people will tend to parse as handshake or hug depending on their pref
@mechanical_monk @mahlenxyz > best hug is when people just wanna hug for the sake of hugging I definitely want this whenever I'm greeting someone, idk about u
@SeanMombo fine, if nobody else is gonna say it, I'll say it: make out (if she's up for it, obv)
Replying to @selentelechia
@selentelechia baby noises go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@metaphorician @blisstweeting @m_ashcroft @metaLulie also signed up for the mental OS update!
Replying to @manylooseends
@manylooseends I wrote a bit about this awhile ago. Pick a thing to do while intending for nobody to know about it for at least a year. The process of keeping it a secret encourages you to find something that YOU want to do malcolmocean.com/just-do
Despite knowing for years about sites like youtubepp.com where you can put in a youtube url and download it, it wasn't until THIS WEEK that it occurred to me that I could use that to watch these videos (that are all-too-common in Canada)
Retweeted @djbaskin
I kept seeing these blue verification profile pics all over my Twitter timeline and thought of them as magic sigils. I collec…
I feel way less like a person with this verified-style icon kinda weird to me that past tweets all get a new avatar applied to them feels to me like it should kinda keep the avatar from the time it was tweeted many obvious reasons why that's bad, but it's neat to think about
gimme a bever and a place to sit
@solarmonke I'm worried about logistics somehow being weird for travel I'm hoping to do later this summer
Work With Me New blog post on my site, with the backstory of a new *page* on my site! I think it would be super cool if pages like these became a common phenomenon similar to @sivers' /now page. malcolmocean.com/2021/06/wwm-ne…
If you want a nudge towards what line of thinking might encourage you to make one of these for yourself, this may be a useful prompt:
lol due to how my wordpress plugins handle card preview, it originally had this giant custom emoji as the preview image 😂😮🤔 I almost left it, because it's kinda funny, but then I was like "I didn't commission epic art from @this_is_silvia for nothing!"
@metaLulie for your birthday I got you a rederivation & rearticulation of the antirational/rational memes framework: intertwingled.blog/#/app/malcolmo…
@visakanv Huh, as someone whose skin color roughly matched and who can't recall ever not knowing that that was by design, I'd be curious to see a 2×2 poll on the topic! guessing more obvious to people for whom decision "neon bandaid or hidden bandaid" was pragmatically available
curious to get @meditationstuff's take on this (and yours, whoever's reading this)
what's the most recent tweet of yours that's at least a day old and has zero likes/RTs/replies, and how long ago was it? (if you have twitter analytics, can also name how many impressions it had)
@AdeleDeweyLopez I think I see what you're getting at. Some (tho not all) of your stuff feels like it's in a different key or tempo or something than a lot of the rest of the stuff I see. I really like it though, both intrinsically and in terms of variety!
today's two genders
well en-dao'd
"Precommitment", ie "committing before", is what people do when they don't understand how to do the usual kind of commitment, which occurs in an eternal space outside of time.
Retweeted @TamasGorbe
Spherical gears are amazing Watch the full video: youtube.com/watch?v=AHUv9Z… Source: ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/94156… …
minute-wise, month-foolish
(like penny-wise, pound-foolish, but for time)
@MarcelChastain @m_ashcroft get in touch if you wanna jam about this!
Thread · The Sacred Band, ancient sexuality, and depths of male friendship
What a mess of a thread & replies. Everyone talking past each other. I want to try essentially steelmanning what I understand the main thread to be saying. Note that I'm a very different guy than this guy, and I'll be saying what seems true *from my perspective* t.co/K989HesPVs
The men in the Sacred Band of Thebes were definitely fucking. In fact, they were all pairs of lovers of some kind. This is not in dispute, including by the guy writing the thread! He wrote here about ancient greek male power+sex relationships patheos.com/blogs/inebriat…
Those pederasty relationships were very different from contemporary "sexual orientation" and romantic homosexual relationships. Most of those men also had wives. The entire cultural concepts of sex & love (and who had the right to do it) were profoundly different.
(As an aside, wikipedia suggests these relationships almost never had anal sex, which was considered shameful, but mostly had "intercrural sex" which is a fancy way of saying "fucking between someone's thighs". Idk if gay men do this today but if so I've never heard of it.)
Thus, the mapping of "homosexuality" onto erastes-eromenos relationships is misleading, very similar to how mapping modern western romantic marriage concepts onto pre-romance marriage concepts or arranged marriages or whatever hunter-gatherers do is misleading.
In parallel to this, there's also a phenomena we might call friendship. Friendship is fucking cool. And it can go way deeper than many people ever have the chance to experience, unfortunately. And surely it has also evolved in many ways over the millenia of human culture.
There are depths of friendship that most people don't experience because they assume that intimacy necessarily involves sexual or romantic elements. This means if one or both people don't want a sexual or romantic relationship, they can't have intimate friendship.
Hence the classic maxim "men & women can't be Just Friends". In practice, this is often true, but it's not inevitable, it's a result of the same assumptions that keep men from being close friends because they don't want to be or seem gay. (There are other factors too)
I've had multiple very close male friendships in my life, including my childhood best friend—when I wanted to go to a boarding school, he chose to go too, because it would have been too painful to both of us to part. I've said "I love you" to >5 male friends in the last 2y.
Here's where I really diverge from the other guy's thread. I'm mostly straight, but not entirely. So I can say: I've had lots of close intimate friendships with men and they all feel totally different from the homoerotic spark I've *also* felt a few times with *other* men.
@Meaningness @dthorson @leashless Curious if anything came of this, or, for that matter, if any other formally-tantric practices have been brought into MAPLE over the last couple years.
@tasshinfogleman Dharma Dream Team?
@utotranslucence & get good at rejecting frames even if you can't say why they're bad aka "mu"
Retweeted @nosilverv
HOLD. YOUR. FRAME. This is the key to all interpersonal power, all else is bells and whistles, smokescreens to confuse the…
@stuhlmueller Oh cool. I've been wanting to write a "How to Work Well with Malcolm" guide as a parallel to my Work With Me page. malcolmocean.com/work-with-me/
Replying to @nf1nk
@nf1nk @workthecycle @iAmTheWarax My thought is that the outer structure of the toilet is not actually relevant to how the water flows, so the thing to do is try cutting off the part above the concrete with an angle grinder, then put a new toilet on top and re-plumb it. Might need a porto in the meantime tho.
I just (unintentionally) wrote a sentence that contained "do do it it" curious if you can write one, from this prompt. Would also enjoy similar prompts.
Replying to @abhayance
@AbhayPrasanna hmmmmmmmmmmm having trouble with that without punctuating extremely awkwardly, something like Just The Little Engine That Could wouldn't be enough, but that that would would be.
@hyperdiscogirl I feel like yes but I can't recall the details
Retweeted @magicianbrain
tfw every person in the modern world must manage or contend with dozens of systems on a daily basis but public curricula…
@magicianbrain I got a degree in Systems Design Engineering and it still mostly didn't really teach systems thinking or design thinking. Was like 93% engineering, which was better than the other engineering departments (~98%) but not by much.
Replying to @michaelcurzi
@michaelcurzi @reconfigurthing welp I guess we are enememes
@Rididelduol @michaelcurzi I am so stoked about this new emoji ❤️🔥 srsly, what did we do to deserve this? all praise be to Lord Zwj
Retweeted @visakanv
“litterbug”, like “personal carbon footprint”, turns out to be another megacorp PR judo move for shifting the blame and respo…
One of my pet peeves is when the landing page for a site is full of sales copy but you can't fucking find the Login button. Eventually it's under the Sign Up button.
"home" as "where you know you'll return to"
Thread · "Nake" as a verb and nakedness as home · 5 of 6 tweets
I guess it's basically time for me to nake, since I'm about to head to bed and I sleep naked.
I like the idea of naking (wait, nakening? hm) as a pure verb, rather than the other synonyms we have which largely involve a negation: - undress - disrobe - unclothe - expose - take one's clothes off These are okay, but don't feel as pure still: - strip - peel - bare
I've been thinking more recently about nakedness as the natural state. A friend was arguing on facebook against laws incriminating naking even in one's own yard, & ppl analogized "what if you wanted to show GORE?" & he retorted "but it's not gore, it's just ME."
And that's stuck with me: the simple me-ness of my body, naked. Nakedness is a kind of home.
My initial inclination was to QT that first tweet and say "we should bring these words back!" and then my inner @LordChisholm was like "Normalize it yourself you coward" and I was like... tru. So I wrote this instead.
Arrrggh so frustrated by how many things I want to do and how little time there is 🤬 I have a bunch of events that I largely enjoy or get a lot of value from on my calendar, yet I want them all to go away… so I can schedule yet more events! that I would also want to go away.
clearly, on a pragmatic level, this is mostly a matter of prioritization, although it's hard to do like a giant iterated parallel secretary problem given that I'm not given all of the events to choose from all at once
clearly, on an emotional level, this is about death ☠️
@AskYatharth Sometimes the world can make you feel you're not welcome anymore and you beat yourself up - you let yourself get mad and in those times when you stop loving the woman I adore you can relax, because babe I've got your back youtube.com/watch?v=nTvJC3…
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
rationalists are not consequentialists. you can tell because they practice the extremely dangerous and foolish art of reas…
@BandLab plz allow moar time signatures
Thread · Noticing conversational bandwidth without dismissing perspectives · 1 of 7 tweets
I talk to lots of smart & self-aware people. Sometimes I talk to some who reflect that they don't get to talk to such people often. Sometimes I'm like "really?" I just checked out some rooms on Clubhouse and jfc there are a lot of people not on this level.
@vgr I appreciate you engaging. Yeah, I think it was a pretty self-congratulatory tweet 😅 I'm not sure how self-congratulatory the original thought I had was. It felt like I was making sense of something that had felt confusing.
@vgr Huh, I think maybe part of what was going on was actually implicitly judging the clubhouse algorithm for promoting stuff to me that is so utterly not my thing.
Thread · Noticing conversational bandwidth without dismissing perspectives · 4 of 7 tweets
Annoying nudge from @vgr to use my own self-awareness on this situation 😝 A steelman of what I'm saying here is something like, it's not just that the content is boring to me, but I feel like I can tell the bandwidth of what's being said is really low.
Maybe my assessment of that is off! It's certainly possible to be off about such things. But it's interesting to have these perceptions and acknowledge that I'm having them.
I've also been very much moving in a direction over the last year of "everybody's perspective has something meaningful to it" So it was interesting to notice myself having some thought that has nearly the opposite valence.
There's definitely a naive postmodern-ish version of "everybody's perspective has something meaningful to it" that misses the bandwidth thing & related things. Similar error to refusing to not just have taste in art but be willing to say "this is world-class art; that is not"
@vgr Ah. I have found some rooms/convos on there that are good, which I guess was part of what generated the sense of contrast. The medium itself seems intriguing, innovative, decent.
@A041943 spoiler: it's empty 😞
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letting go of attachment is cool, but have you tried letting go of the attachment to the idea that you need to let go o…
@AskYatharth Malcolm Mael Coluim (gaelic) = devotee of Saint Columba, patron saint of floods, bookbinders, poets Columba also means dove 🕊️ Ocean ... Seems like Malcolm Ocean is the guy who organizes olive-branch peace poems into a book on an oceanic scale of flood.
what makes the motherfucking blues scale so fucking funky?
@sashintweets That's a different-but-related thing and also true and also very much something I've been grokking more over the last year. There's an additional thing that's something like "I have something to learn from everyone."
I have something to learn from everyone. But that doesn't mean that a given situation is going to afford that learning.
@sashintweets Although huh!
One of the most important things to be able to notice is when a situation isn't a fit for your learning process right now. Of course, school all but beats that out of people.
Thread · Noticing conversational bandwidth without dismissing perspectives · 2 of 7 tweets
Ah also this.
Also there's a capacity to notice that other people aren't really learning either. I *did* refine that skill somewhat in the course of my schooling, watching the teacher fail to understand a student's question, and the student acquiesce to a bad answer.
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realized i actually forgot the thought blurb that prompted the thread… “adhd is a syndrome where the state of concentra…
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If you are looking for integrity, look no further. Blown away by this, @MrWinMarshall: mrwinstonmarshall.medium.com/why-im-leaving…
Spend time with people with an eye to "10 years from now, who do I want to have known this whole time?"
People talk about "Twitter incentivizes QT-dunking" as if humans have an intrinsic hunger for RTs & likes. There are ways to shift that playing field… …but you can also show people a better game to play than just seeking maximum retweets, eg fun conversation. 👑 @visakanv
@JvNixon say again in lojban? not sure I parsed an organization to do focused research on organization establishment? an establishment organization that's somehow meta to focused research organizations?
@metaphorician Agreed, leave at the door. More like, when planning who to spend time with.
@EnzikaOfAsh Hmmmm yeah, matches my experience too 😅 Maybe more important for figuring out who to proactively try to spend serious time with (like a camping trip or living together), and for the other extreme of "people I don't want in my life" than the middle range.
@ElodesNL I read "planet hairy" and pronounced it "planetary"
I've heard a few people mention "chasing the dragon" recently. What does it mean to you? Answer as explicit-verbally or poetically as you'd like. Feel free to guess at an answer if you've never heard/used the term, but let us know if you're doing that.
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At this weekend's technological roadmapping conference, I asked ~30 leaders what new institutions they thought would have incr…
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the body will literally keep the score instead of going to therapy
@__justplaying forgive me for I have eaten the score that you were keeping in the body
@EpistemicHope I don't have good models of this but I'll tag that I was very surprised when I met you in person after having had a video call with you & Oli. Part of this was that you'd cut your hair but also you were scaled down compared to what I'd assumed.
@EpistemicHope The "scaled down" part is interesting... you aren't just short but also have a small head I think? Like some people who are 5'4", if you scaled them linearly to be 5'10", would look really weird, but I think you'd still look proportioned. I've noticed some scaled-up people too.
@EpistemicHope Reading "I'm pretty short... though I am fit and muscular" my first thought is "show, don't tell". Quite precisely, my advice: Learn to do some impressive-looking acroyoga poses and include photos of you doing them shirtless with someone who's taller than you but less in shape.
@EpistemicHope Eh, not actually important the other person be less in shape. The point is that you're *showing off your body* while also communicating its size as a side effect. Idk how good your balance/coordination is but you might be able to get to some of these in <10 hours of practice.
@EpistemicHope Acroyoga came to mind because being smaller has advantages as a flyer, so some impressive poses would be lower-hanging fruit for you in particular. Though you could also base! I've based folks who weigh 50lbs more than me in some poses. Oh! Speaking of easier-if-smaller—FLAG.
@EpistemicHope But flag doesn't automatically convey your relative size as a human being the way acroyoga would.
Cool case study in delays. Not just shipping delays, but system feedback loop delays where supply & demand are boom-bust-cycling on a multi-year lag.
re delays, they're one of Donella Meadows' classic 12 leverage points:
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
First Person Perspectives and Dancing with Eric Chisholm (@LordChisholm) - Reach Truth Podcast youtu.be/DXPvJOblWgQ
Wow, the /r/PoliticalCompassMemes subreddit is fucking great. Has a delightful vibe where half of the jokes are at the expense of the political alignment of the person posting them.
Like the person who posted this 😙👌 meme has an AuthLeft flair. reddit.com/r/PoliticalCom…
Someone even made a meme *about* how they're not bashing each other but collectively playfully pointing at their own blindspots.
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa yeah likewise. couchsurfed a ton in the bay area, a total of 5+ months over a few years some was with people who knew me primarily from my blog, though we happened to meet at an in-person event
@TasshinF v curious what your project is!
Replying to @ProteusMorrill
@ProteusMorrill am I flexing by not flexing?
@visakanv you've still got 933 to go
@ernsterlanson I believe the search term you're looking for is tulpas
music makes you feel feelings lyrics make you think thoughts *songs* make you FEEL thoughts
— nested quote from someone halfway through this video youtube.com/watch?v=epqYft…
🎶 your body on my body and my my body keeps the score
@riskguyLAstyle @sashachapin glad I didn't stop halfway through this piece
@ollyrobot I mean they did evolve
@deevbrain @RomeoStevens76 took me awhile to get to reading these, but I just did 🙂 I remember your white-hat trolling concept! I like the "NO" spiral pun. Fallback Decision+Action helps navigate [[in the meantime]] rather than getting stuck. Pretty obvious once you think of it. I mean, DA.
> The parallels Legutko finds between liberal democracy and communism become plausible once you grant that in Europe the term “liberal democracy” has come to name a disposition and political system that is neither liberal nor democratic. washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standar…
@AskYatharth same reason a game tactic stops working if you keep using it—opponent outsmarts & blocks it guessing what's going on is some part of you doesn't trust the technique or how you're using it broadly, solution is to find a way to get all parts bought into iterating tech to suit
@metaphorician Happens to all of us! Sometimes I find I can say something new about the clichés, eg 👇
Taking a spontaneous #TwitterDayOff today. Time to do my Q2 review! 🤔❤️🔥👑✍️ Oh, on which note! If you want guidance for doing life review/reorientation, we're running more workshops for that in July. Sign up: complice.co/event/gci?tw=M… Or learn more:
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Listen I get it I'm an energy cloud inside a network of neurons making this monkey's fingies wiggle on the tip tap bo…
Replying to @sheherenow_
@jongold fruit smoothie with lots of ginger
This is a 2×2 poll about male-female relationships. This inevitably excludes some people. Feel free to answer for a past version of yourself though! And poly folks, give whichever answer feels most representative. Ok, the poll: you & your partner's armpits are...
@jondubin @CurziRose thesis antithesis ...synthesis!
Thread · Why Fahrenheit beats Celsius for weather, and a better scale
people are saying this guy is just saying that because he's used to it but as a Canadian who decided to learn Fahrenheit at least somewhat (and am still not that familiar with it) I agree it's way better for describing weather than Celsius is
what makes Fahrenheit better is not that "0 is really cold, 100 is really hot"—that's it arguing in Celsius's terms 🤦♀️ what makes Fahrenheit better is precision: "low 60s" describes a natural size of range that Celsius must call "16-18" "high teens °C" is too broad to dress by!
Having "temperature at which water freezes" as an obvious anchor point in Celsius is honestly pretty great for day-to-day life anywhere that freezes in winter, ngl. Were I starting over, I'd create a temperature system that has 0=water freezes, 200=water boils = best of both!
This system (literally Celsius×2) would have slightly larger degrees than Fahrenheit (which are Celsius×1.8). Unlike other excellent decimal metric units like kg, m, etc, the 0-100 scale doesn't do anything useful since you can't multiply or divide shit anyway!
I'm guessing that if the creators of Celsius had REALLY thought about the UX of their scale outside science, and simulated trying to use it in that context for a bit, they would have come up with the same thing I just did but alas,
ironically in Canada the main thing we still use Fahrenheit for after switching a few decades ago is cooking, which is chemistry and would be better handled with Celsius! like water-boiling temperature is straightforwardly relevant there, & differences of 2 degrees rarely matter
@KevinMeinhardt2 @svenosaurus @SeanTrende I went and wrote a whole thread on this and I'm still not totally sure why (I'm a Canadian and I ended up concluding we should just multiply the Celsius scale by 2 and have the best of both worlds)
tfw when you try to die on some hill and nobody else even shows up
Retweeted @hormeze
Here is the hill I would die on, and over here- this is the mountain upon which I refuse to do anything but fiercely live
Zoe gets it.
@CurziRose Totally! Mind-blowing to realize.
this corner of twitter is basically an orgy where we're all constantly effing the ineffable as best we can
@CurziRose yeah there's both too much validation going on and not nearly enough validation culture is overmuch focused on categories and identities don't need to validate those if you've already validated every single perceptual event!
Retweeted @ahamletlord
the stuff you already "get" is automated, abstracted, sort of handwaved and so one thing that can happen is you get disso…
the discourse: "are you woke, or right-wing?" me: "well, the important thing is that I've found a way to feel superior to both"
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I had this idea to create a walkcycle with a specific rule. The rule I set up for this animation was to have the whole charac…
@beauhaan @TheRealDoctorT For real! Beautiful. Appreciation to Sayed for experiencing it & writing it & to Beau for sharing it so I got to see it.
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This. But the double slit is your mind. Wait... Whut? twitter.com/Sci_Phile/stat…
Replying to @brspirituality
@brspirituality I want to collaborate with you on making some music! 🎶 As a first idea, I'm wondering if we might add a cello part to this piece I've been working on called I Will Be In Love, which seems likely to be your vibe.
@balOShere @visakanv suggested to @m_ashcroft to take daily selfies & journals after he quit his job & switched to self-employed, to watch his muscles relax and see how his thinking evolves.
@brspirituality's new profile pic is ❤️🔥👑👨🚀 perfect for space dharma twitter.com/brspirituality…
@hormeze @tszzl Yeah framing people as left vs right brained as a personality typing system has been thoroughly deboonked. But the hemispheres do have very different worldviews and being able to notice these two profoundly different modes in your own thinking is super useful imx!
@Conaw Okay so what did you mean when you referred to yourself as trying to chase the dragon, vibing on this tweet of mine? Something metaphorical about chasing highs?
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Two things I'm a sucker for: memetic crossbreeding and puppers.
@maybegray omg I love that you have this thread you might find some good mashups from @CloneOfSnow, via these searches: twitter.com/search?q=from%… twitter.com/search?q=from%… twitter.com/search?q=from%…
@visakanv I mean I know it's the flat 5th maybe my question is what makes the flat 5th so fucking funky!?!?
@visakanv also did you know that there's a major blues scale that (unsurprisingly) is the same scale but starts 3 semitones up?
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ pretty sure final boss is actually Death himself
@BecomingCritter @magicianbrain The book Thinking in Systems by Donella Meadows (can get a teaser in this thread but it goes WAY deeper so don't stop there)
@BecomingCritter @magicianbrain or see any of the dozens of replies to this tweet:
@mechanical_monk @Rididelduol @michaelcurzi yeah they snuck it through quickly via not having to make a new unicode codepoint because it instead uses zwj (zero-width-join, same thing used for skin-tones) on ❤️&🔥 there were a bunch of these added as part of Emoji 13.1 emojipedia.org/emoji-13.1/
@mechanical_monk @Rididelduol @michaelcurzi well, not a bunch. basically just these 5 😶🌫️ Face in Clouds 😮💨 Face Exhaling 😵💫 Face with Spiral Eyes ❤️🔥 Heart on Fire ❤️🩹 Mending Heart plus hundreds of couples based on every combination of gender & race, which I maintain is downstream of a huge mistake
@SarahAMcManus @CurziRose That's the book that talks about it and it's a great book but I'm not sure it really thoroughly lays out a model of what dignity *is*. Seems important to do and I will probably do it at some point, as a dignitarian myself.
@SarahAMcManus @CurziRose Found this free excerpt of a later book by the same author, but the excerpt ends just before he gets to a section called Dignity and Recognition: Dignity: A Universal Human Right (just pulled up the full book though and it he doesn't explain it) bkconnection.com/static/All_Ris…
@SarahAMcManus @CurziRose One source I would draw on in seeking to properly model what dignity is is @Chris_arnade's book called Dignity, where he goes and sincerely meets people in many of the "worst" neighborhoods in the USA. I've only read this excerpt so far, which touched me: theguardian.com/us-news/2019/j…
@SarahAMcManus @CurziRose the TL;DR of dignitarianism is reframing all discriminatory isms as rankism and saying "while there may be patterns related to race, gender, etc... the underlying issue is that we EVER consider it acceptable to use one's rank/power to deny someone else dignity"
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@Malcolm_Ocean you Are malcolm, prince of the weirding, poikilos rainbow king, ambitious lord of the possible realms,…
@tasshinfogleman wow I didn't know the word "poikilos"! this is lovely 🥰❤️🔥
@jambarree @pervexists69 ooooh "overactive agency detection" seems like a great phrase
@SarahAMcManus @CurziRose this then very immediately makes it obvious that purge/cancel mobs are generally themselves instances of rankism, because the people cancelling have the power to do so and are using it in ways that are indignifying the person being cancelled
@speakerjohnash huh this doesn't strike me as an issue, I guess because I never assumed there had to be a single perception point? it all seems like a grand dance from my perspective
@RichDecibels it's wild, right? I really feel like we're in cutting-edge territory
Thread · Feeling superior to both sides as a way to bust false dichotomies
I've noticed a useful shape recently which is when my own thinking is doing this "found a way to feel superior to both" thing. It seems to be a great response to false dichotomy questions that try to get you to take sides; by being playfully arrogant, it avoids both-sides-ism
Huh, this is actually even better than I thought. It avoids sounding both-sides-y, and it also avoids sounding like a whatever-sympathizer, because, well, you're not being sympathetic to either side 😎
This feels like an excellent metamodern move. It's satisfying in part because by (self-)owning your own sense of feeling superior (rather than just talking from a feels-superior frame) you're clearly not taking your own thinking too seriously.
It's also metamodern in that it acknowledges a sense that viewpoints can be superior to others. @HFreinacht writes in depth about how po-mo has a paradox of using a "po-mo is best" frame while simultaneously flatly rejecting all claims of superiority in the name of relativism
Of course, another key piece of metamodern thinking is being able to listen to people you disagree with, and steelman their perspectives. It's just... the time to do that is not when a frame needs busting and a question needs unasking.
In general basically everyone has something to contribute to understanding what's broken, and it's honestly pretty easy to discern as long as you can remember that someone being able to point at a problem doesn't mean that their solution is any good
(your interlocutor may ofc not understand this)
anyway, this got super political but seriously you can use it on any question "are you a cat or a dog person?" "do you think facebook or google is more evil?"
anyway, separate from *saying* it out loud, I've been finding it rather useful to be able to also notice this thinking pattern in my own mind
@CXGonzalez_ @visakanv oh shit yeah you legit can do that, wow very good
*slaps roof of body* this bad boy can keep so many scores in it
@gptbr00ke I use it fairly regularly sometimes 🙏 = thanks/appreciated sometimes 🙏 = I see you/namaste
@__justplaying it's 1:30am and I'm the sort to die on the hill that the wee hours aren't morning until the sun comes up or you're up for the day, so unfortunately I don't have a good morning for you unless you can confirm you're in a timezone where it's REAL morning or if you can wait a few h
Replying to @DesidErratum
@DesidErratum @michaelcurzi @BecomingCritter @OliverCarefull @visakanv I continue to be curious about the latent potential waiting to be unlocked when truck drivers lose their jobs to automation and the dozens-to-hundreds who've been grokking literally every single Game B etc podcast episode show up like "sup"
I think about this at least once a month, sometimes more. These folks probably have a better overview of some dimensions of the collective conversation than the well-known people *on the podcasts*, who don't have time to listen to most convos that they're not actually in.
@CurziRose I apparently got nerdsniped a bit and found this article that includes a whole section "Defining Economic Dignity" that acknowledges how it usually goes undefined. Haven't read the whole thing but it seems pretty good! democracyjournal.org/magazine/52/ec…
@CurziRose I think this author's Economic Dignity is a different but parallel concept to dignity as used by the dignitarians; the latter iirc is described as something that each individual person can grant each other.
what does your shadow taste like these days?
(I assume, ofc, that you *are* eating your shadow, like all the good boys & girls)
@egocv was working with @AndrewSchrbr on a React-based WebRTC module to plug into Complice and had to explain that I've ignored all the recent js frontend package bs and that we could just build the single js file from that project and just uhh copy paste it into the Complice codebase
grrr I was doing one thing, and that was great then I was doing everything, and that was great but for the last hour I've been doing nothing in particular and I feel restless and grumpy = pretty typical lifecycle of my attention, on the timespan of a few hours to a day
hey, you're my body and this is crazy but here's the score so keep it maybe
Retweeted @LordChisholm
Do I contradict myself? Then I contradict myself. My body is vast, and keeps many scores
@asto2121 pffft as if I don't have ways to feel superior to both centrists & libertarians
@m_ashcroft sort of a remix of this earlier one
update: @LordChisholm came in and we made some body keeps the score memes using @CloneOfSnow for inspiration and now I'm feeling less grumpy (and ready for bed)
I daresay you haven't had much practice why, I've sometimes felt superior to as many as six other types of people before breakfast!
@ETVPod if you like memetic cross-breeding, check out @CloneOfSnow. No longer active but has an amazing archive of nearly a thousand meme mashups
@mayfer oh this might come in handy, thanks not for this project which is already swimming along happily, but if in future something doesn't
@mayfer @egocv @AndrewSchrbr I mean I'm not using either of those either 😜
@utotranslucence @RichDecibels
@made_in_cosmos haven't used it that much but bookshop.org is a platform where local bookstores can set up virtual shelves and get referral credit
what's your inverse ikigai? mine might be something like spending every day eating spicy potatoes while doing something repetitive that involves dealing with horses
@Cantide1 wow if they ever try to get you to do that lmk and I'd be happy to fill in!
OT1H, there's nothing to practice OTOH, there's nothing *but* practice
@visakanv @DanielCJonas @Conaw recently suggested I read The Engelbart Hypothesis have just barely cracked it open but I'm getting scenius vibes from it already
big iff true would love to see a fic about the different collective intelligences/consciousnesses/agents of like twitter, tiktok, 4chan, etc, all interacting, trying to solve a puzzle together
@BecomingCritter @KenBearIsland @AbstractFairy seems like there's two ways to parse this; wanting to make sure we have disambiguated 1. they fall in love with the version of themselves that they are in your presence 2. they fall in love with the two-person being that is {who they are with you}
Replying to @nat_sharpe_
@nat_sharpe_ @visakanv I made a whole 2×2 exploring the difference between interviewing & interrogating
Retweeted @patio11
For many years folks, often non-technical, have mentioned tauntingly "Wait until you automate programmers out of a job" and th…
pick a flavour
While how I’m feeling is always a response to what’s happening, the size and shape of that response have more to do with my history than the particulars of the situation. Important to honor the role of both the external situation and my internal context of interpretation.
In my experience, people trying to wake each other up directly, whatever that means, and no matter how spiritually wise they feel in that moment, tend to be doing it in part out of discomfort with being with the "asleep" person. I've been on both sides of this countless times.
@xvrqt good cleanup. much tidier than the old one:
@cateliseh sup
@hosalind > Being seen as i always already am is SO much better than being someones ego destruction project Totally! And this is one of the things that generates the discomfort: someone projecting some image of their past onto you rather than being present & receptive.
Thread · Living in a dream mashup of present reality and old emotional meanings · 28 of 33 tweets
Everyone's basically living in a dream mashup of their current external situation & their old emotional meanings. Like dreaming you're at high school but it's also on a boat somehow. & as in dreams, somehow the weirdness of this mashup goes unnoticed malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
Not only does the weirdness of the mashup go unnoticed while you're dreaming, you sometimes don't even realize how weird it is after waking until you actually stop & think about it. And then you’re just as fooled by the next dream, until you wake up again.
The emotional brain is experiencing something totally real—just as your high school is real. The part of you that’s taking in reality is experiencing something totally real—just as boats are real. But there is no real “my high school, except on an boat”.
People experience these mashups in relationships as well, emotionally experiencing their friends & partners as if they’re a parent, teacher, sibling, or bully from childhood, or an earlier friend or partner. Or, as adults, they project authority on their parents they had as kid.
Pete outlines over a dozen creative responses to the flashbacks, most of which are transformational and a few are counteractive. Using some counteractive approaches alongside transformational ones can produce short-term empowerment that fuels further transformation.
What do I mean by counteractive & transformational? The distinction comes from Unlocking the Emotional Brain, an excellent book you can read an excellent summary of here: lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3…
Counteractive approaches to behavior change are based on trying to train/convince oneself to do X instead of Y. Ok for simple mechanical habits but for anything emotion-based requires ongoing maintenance to perform some new consciously-desired behavior in spite of one's urges.
Transformational approaches are based on understanding what’s generating the behavior in the first place—how it’s understanding the situation such that it’s doing what it’s doing and it makes total sense to do that thing. Then the part doing X can *see* if Y makes more sense.
What to do if you notice you’re dreaming? As anyone who’s tried to lucid dream can attest, noticing you’re dreaming is at least half the battle in the first place! Emotional untangling techniques like Bio-Emotive can make the move more accessible, internally AND culturally.
Here's a way I like to go about disentangling two key dimensions of things. If I'm on my game I can notice I'm having a strong emotional response to a situation that doesn't directly threaten me, and get curious and maybe reveal "I'm activated/projecting"
What to do if you notice someone else is dreaming? I used to think it was the job of the person having the flashback, to notice & pull themselves out. That’s great when it works, but as I’ve mentioned, it’s really hard to notice.
I also used to think that if I noticed someone else was in a flashback, the thing for me to do is to point it out to them and try to get them to wake up. Sometimes this works but in my experience it tends to backfire because it’s an attempt at controlling them.
It works better if I’m able to respect the intelligence of the other person’s emotional cognition. Rather than saying “wake up — be present with me”, acknowledging that on some level they genuinely are having trouble telling me apart from someone who has (and would) hurt them.
Then I try to take on a playful improvisational stance that asks “how can I become an invalid target for whatever they’re projecting on me?” I might fail, but the important thing is I'm actually trying to give them new data to grok as opposed to demanding they reinterpret.
As I said above, the size and shape of an emotional response has more to do with the person's history than the particulars of the situation, but all the same, *something* in what I was doing resulted in them having had that response, in that moment, not a different one.
In general, creating safety for everybody is the aim—and if creating safety for the other person feels threatening or like it would make me unworkably vulnerable, I need to start by creating safety for myself.
Someone close to you going into a flashback sucks. It feels disconnecting. That's natural and you don't have to like it. I've noticed there's a difference between the intrinsic disconnect though vs my own attachment fears being triggered. If so, any "wake up" comes from panic!
Instead of trying to wake the other person up, soothe yourself and affirm your own experience of not liking what's happening.
(Man. I try to write these posts/threads in first person perspective about how I approach things but it's so easy to lapse back into imperative case. Probably partially because using "one" in English is awkward, so one ends up with general-you, and then from there into advice.)
Btw, what's happening here isn't a biological flaw. It's the brain working effectively to rapidly generate a model of what's going on and what to do about it. Same hardware that lets you "pick up like it was just yesterday" when you meet an old friend you haven't seen in years.
Also the same cognitive process that allows a firefighter to rapidly recognize something suspicious about the temperature of the house he's in and get his team to safety before the floor collapses—a specific case study from this book:
In the original tweet Qiaochu wrote that I responded to with the dream mashup metaphor, he's talking about not just strong acute trigger moments but ongoing worldviews. Dream mashups are basically the default mode!
The only reason they even seem bizarre is that the generalizations tend to get stuck. And it's not just big-t Trauma from abuse! Even if you had a pretty good childhood, there's still lots of learnings that you inevitably picked up that were true then but aren't as an adult:
And, unless you were homeschooled by incredibly integrated parents, or enrolled in an excellent Montessori school or something, you probably also picked up some learnings like these: (plus others from avoiding your peers making fun of you)
These learnings aren’t made out of words; they’re an embodied sense of the way the world is. But, we might ask, why don’t people immediately unlearn these generalizations as soon as they’re no longer relevant?
Shame, mostly—in part due to some of these very learnings. Untangling these learnings requires curiously exploring what they are & how they got there, which requires acknowledging that you don’t actually know why you’re doing what you’re doing. …Hard when ppl want u to justify.
Another stuckness factor is that whether shame or fear or sadness, most people learn in childhood that there are a lot of feelings it’s not safe to feel. The feelings themselves come to feel threatening, if expressing them means freaking out our parents.
@VividVoid_ Dope. Care to point me to another finger?
Thread · Living in a dream mashup of present reality and old emotional meanings · 5 of 33 tweets
So we block ourselves from seeing the remarkable sensibleness of these unconscious perspectives when assessed on their own terms, a seeing which can then enable us to see a new sense we can make of the situation.
Instead, we have the impression that we are simply being irrational and should snap out of it. These are deep confusions; waking up from them *ongoingly* requires a thorough reorganization of our thinking, not just a jolt into presence (which may help for a moment).
We are, collectively, just starting to realize what’s going on, and to thereby wake up from the collective dream of cultural memes from humanity’s adolescence that are becoming an increasingly inappropriate and bizarre mashup when overlaid on our current actual global situation.
> We're living in the midst of not only a scientific revolution in our understanding of trauma & a clinical rev'n in our ability to treat it but also a cultural rev'n in our awareness & acceptance of trauma as a normal part of human experience. @fortelabs fortelabs.co/blog/groundbre…
Okay that is literally an entire blog post as a tweetstorm. Some sentences omitted and the original is probably clearer, but if you read the whole thing you should have the gist. Still, if you want to share a single link, this is your guy: malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
@QiaochuYuan @visakanv this tweet now has a whole blog post on the model, what it implies, and how I approach working with this phenomenon! malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
Retweeted @nickcammarata
@deepfates I’m a fallibilist. I don’t know exactly what kind of God we are
Thread · Turning a favourite tweet into a blog post and back into a thread
After many repeated requests*, one of my best tweets (so far) is now a blog post! *about half of which were @visakanv😜 malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
the original Classic tweet 🎩
I could've sworn that in addition to him DM'ing me about it multiple times Visa also tweeted at me about it but I haven't found anything except this: (on which note, maybe good timing for a salon on this? @TheAnnaGat shall I email you?)
@visakanv link us up with your tweets about the importance of encouraging people to expand on their best ideas
I've also turned the whole post into a thread, so if you want to get seduced into it tweet-by-tweet rather than opening up a tab and forgetting about it for weeks, I've got you covered:
turning the post into a thread was actually really helpful for my editing process! prompted a few new points of clarity, added punchiness, and spotting some typos
speaking of typos, here's a list of neologisms in this blog post (that I added to dict while writing it) - transformational - reconsolidation - unworkably - learnings words not recognized by another dictionary but I'd already added them to mine: - sensemaking - ongoingly - grok
@visakanv you had one a few months ago that was about a tweet of venkat's that you kept insisting needed more likes until it got them if you could find *that* tweet, might be a trailhead in its replies or QTs
@visakanv collaborative tweet archaeology
@TheJointleman @visakanv @thlpr there's some discussion of search technique here: (found this myself with twm twm ofc)
Replying to @instar_imago
@NibiruDakini maybe the answer is to just do that? (to the extent you want to do it) like charge for readings when that feels right, and transition people to learning how to read for themselves when that feels right
@michaelcurzi East Bay Spice Company hidden next to UCB campus is one of the only places in Berkeley open til 2am only a couple flatbreads as food options, but they're tasty! have had several great convos there after midnight eastbayspicecompany.com
@visakanv yesssssssssssss and then that gets QT'd like this:
@visakanv and also by finding your QTs on venkat's tweet, I got to this thread/tweet of yours:
@visakanv ofc we could have gotten to that thread via *my* original tweet, but this was a good scenic route!
@visakanv fyeah
@visakanv @nat_sharpe_ also there are 2 more to account for
@LordChisholm @_daimon__ gotta be the 2nd hill dancer guy sive.rs/ff
> I have shown you as much as I could, and now we both are equally uncertain. > Knowing all this, do you still want to do this thing together? 😍🥰❤️🔥 some of the most beautiful words I've read in awhile t.co/k0xl7jHExu
@theorangealt not sure I totally agree with the whole thing but I love these words
@CurziRose @SarahAMcManus well I mean it's evil, in Carse's sense of the term and as Carse says elsewhere, part of evil is the attempt to eliminate someone's voice permanently
@asto2121 Hmmmm I don't go around actively feeling superior to apolitical people, but I have been coming around to the idea that there's something important to engaging with politics. Just on a very different level of abstraction than it presents natively.
Retweeted @deepfates
if you're still thinking your politics as "left-wing" or "right-wing' I regret to inform you that the plane has no wings and…
@cuishuohua Hm! Curious what you mean here. I can read it a few different ways, and it seems like a non-obvious thought!
@balOShere @visakanv @m_ashcroft write notes to self / journals / morning pages regularly then actually re-read them later I've been doing this more and it's surprisingly powerful also recording short videos to myself from different states of mind - helps integrate across modes
@visakanv huh, it has an interval of 1024:729... = 2¹⁰:3⁶ what could it mean?! wait, that's just a fake rational ratio 🙄🤨 the actual ratio isn't rational at all, it's √2, since it's half a doubling hmmm, how funky is √2...?
@hormeze @ETVPod @maybegray I found this one through her thread 🙃
@jondubin exactly! you do what you do!
@JvNixon ahh, an organization for the purpose of establishing focused research organizations! great idea :)
@visakanv oh man suddenly got curious if you've seen this great video (6min excerpt; whole 45min talk also great) youtube.com/watch?v=-tRAkW…
@visakanv right but why are tritones on their own evil... ...yet you stick one in a pentatonic scale and you get the glorious grooviness of the blues scale? @its_adamneely have you done a video on this?
@m_ashcroft I just noticed you said "underrated tweet" but you didn't retweet it yourself
@BlackForestBoi seems like the word purple-pilled didn't catch on, but more and more people are coming out as non-partisan, at least along obvious axes
@BlackForestBoi (I snoozed your tweet til halfway through the year, as part of marking your words!)
@chophshiy @chercher_ai yeah in some animals the eyes themselves are lateralized but in humans it's moreso the visual field itself that's contralateral (not symmetrical though; LH focuses on tiny patch just right of center; RH sees whole left side gestalt)
@nosilverv brilliant and disturbing take: write.as/harold-lee/ser…
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
Rob Burbea: lover, mystic, scholar, preacher, theoretical physicist, political revolutionary, wild sexual beast who is…
@markAcorn paging @maybegray
@nickcammarata @thechaz as a fellow hyperthymic, I've had bouts of feeling *really bad* when my life situation is not working for me and I don't know what to do about it but it's tempered by a sense of knowing that my baseline is great and I won't stay down forever
FRIENDS! LOVERS! PARENTS! Encourage each others' unlimited wellspring of energy! Delight in your own passion of pursuit! Bask in the radiance of someone who's (figuratively) on fire! ❤️🔥
@nickcammarata I wanted to amplify what you were saying here but I realized your tweet itself had kinda downer energy, stating as fact "everyone encourages you to slow down" instead of *being* a counterexample of encouragement to shine brightly.
@daemonhugger some versions probably are but there are also aspects that aren't insisting that things *are* positive and are more oriented to cultivating your own sense that you do in fact want good things for yourself and others which is a kind of prayer
@daemonhugger can also explore creatively figuring out what you would wish upon people
@pee_zombie one piece here is that if people lack the right introspective techniques, they may not know HOW to explain themselves accurately, which means that your question puts them in a bind of "make shit up or admit they have no idea why they're doing what they're doing"
@pee_zombie another piece is some kinds of explanations (what in this blog post I call "normative explanations") are intrinsically defensive & ppl do sometimes want such explanations, so you need to not just say but *demonstrate* you're looking for something else malcolmocean.com/2015/10/causal…
Retweeted @95thoughts
The nocebo effect and implications for modern psychiatry You’re probably familiar with the placebo effect: taking a pill y…
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
“It is the right frontal cortex that is responsible for inhibiting one’s immediate response, and hence for flexibility and…
Thread · Meta-thread of threads on McGilchrist's brain hemispheres · 1 of 38 tweets
@Jeanvaljean689 @m_ashcroft excitedly linking brain hemispheres to Alexander Technique this is gonna be big guys McGilchrist didn't really have any pragmatic advice, & "drawing on the right side of the brain" doesn't generalize enough
@m_ashcroft Fucking delightful to realize that this thread of yours is a tree flowering, whose seed was planted in this very first thread I wrote about McGilchrist 2y ago (before even reading TMAHE) asking how to shift locus to RH stoked to taste the fruit!
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@Jeanvaljean689 @m_ashcroft excitedly linking brain hemispheres to Alexander Technique this is gonna be big guys McGil…
inside you are two wolves fighting a battle of wits the body keeps the score
on Jan 3 I QT'd this and said "top tweet of 2021 so far" no longer quite so clear now that we've had 180 days of 2021 rather than 3, but still a top-notch tweet
expert level reply game by @visakanv noticing someone casually said something unusual that might have potentially non-obvious implications and being like "wait - unpack!" the results speak for themselves
@visakanv @nickcammarata @metaphorician @metaLulie Hey @Morphenius this monologue by Nick reminds me of your bit "your only job is to take care of your human"—would be cool to weave that in if you have it posted anywhere it can be linked (or could convert it to a thread!)
on zoom 🎶 to the tune of "say something I'm giving up on you" "say something I'm cutting out on you"
Retweeted @pee_zombie
I've decided that all of ethics is pointless, just do what's obviously good, don't do what's obviously bad, and don't stres…
Retweeted @hormeze
Mediation prompt: notice how light things get when you realize your participation is not required in any of your internal goin…
