@rmbalt Yeah honestly I didn't think TARS was realistic but maybe it is? I think some of its joints seemed too high-torque or something.
@rmbalt Yeah honestly I didn't think TARS was realistic but maybe it is? I think some of its joints seemed too high-torque or something.
interesting piece in EvConch/memetics
@lumpenspace @manic_pixie_agi huh, I thought pidgins were usually existing more at the intersection between two or more other languages
@mimi10v3 devs identify with the process of creating and using abstractions, which AI-based dev is a natural fit for
Yeah I had an assumption a bit like this for years and it turns out it's kind of exploitable. You're allowed to be skeptical regardless. Others are allowed to be skeptical of your skepticism regardless. ×♾️ twitter.com/s_r_constantin…
@BecomingCritter Burnout is largely about a sense of work being impossible/intractable and of unclear value ...which is less common with physical work since feedback loops are clearer and it's generally better defined and more obviously useful. Stressors there are simpler (tho not per se better)
@visakanv Good timing since you're en route to dadmode. Having a kid is a profound end of youth!
@chburdett Some people don't have a lot of experience with collective trains of thought, and are sufficiently conversationally loud that this means they end up usually winning the fight they perceive for whose train of thought gets to be the conversation.
Awhile ago I thought about making a course (with @LordChisholm iirc) on something like subtle skills of conversation. It would include learning how to orient to collective trains of thought, not just power struggling. Anyone interested?
@AndyAyrey @buffsoldier_96 Nailed it. The bit about "wholly different consciousness" made me think of this epic anthropological piece, which talks about the intertwinglement of epistemology and anthropology: ranprieur.com/readings/preco…
@buffsoldier_96 My sense is that these languages contain useful contextual embeddings for local land love, but by necessity that wisdom doesn't already know how to deal with the problems that we have today, because they never had to. It might *help* with climate stuff, but isn't THE answer.
@allgarbled Increased polarization means there's a need for at least having a meta-political take like this one, otherwise you look like the enemy.
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good morning to everyone who knows that the secret of this world is oscillating between dio & apo

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important to keep in mind if you think eating grain involves no murder
I want to play with this. I bet something like it could be cool for scaffolding learning balancing and/or breakdancing skills.
@Aella_Girl Fascinating. Pretty sure high testosterone doesn't make for integrated sexualities in everyone tho 😅
@mimi10v3 Type error. What are you actually asking?
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Have you ever lived somewhere you felt safe leaving your doors unlocked?
Thread · Why longer sits turn into chaotic thinking rather than meditation · 1 of 5 tweets
people are like "can't just sit for 20mins, real magic happens if you meditate for an hour" but um by the time I've been sitting for 20mins I'm not meditating anymore I'm just thinking about stuff
@MattPirkowski @jacksonrichards yeah like if some of Marx's ideas are great and worth salvaging, let's salvage them and talk about the new versions that aren't bound up in resent etc we can give credit to Marx as an inspiration while saying "also he was confused, read the original only as context if at all"
@MattPirkowski @_SUPERCOMMUNITY Yeah, folks like us maybe need some translators haha. A lot of my stuff is similar, aimed at a few dozen people with a lot of context/interest, because that's the level I want to think/speak at, but would be relevant to many more people.
@meekaale I don't have an Om Depot near me, would another brand work fine? I'm worried about bad caulking gumming things up then leaking anyway.
@lumpenspace @manic_pixie_agi Nah a creole is what the kids grow up speaking (it has proper/consistent grammar whereas the pidgin doesn't, or something like that) > a mother tongue formed from the contact of two languages through an earlier pidgin stage
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when you’re passionate, you can be inspired by anything the space filling of a forest canopy the shape of a cloud a snak…
me: I'm sad because we're out of chocolate gf: what if you imagine eating chocolate right now... and you can taste it... me: hmmm.... my imagination isn't that good— me & gf at the same time: skill issue
ah just noticed that "I'm assuming that X" is another co-epistemic status tag
> cheating is much more work this is the way.
rooting my phone just to reprogram it to say "we are so back" when the dropped signal reconnects
each neuron has the capacity for exactly one thought, which would roughly translate as "relevant!"
"yeah, I could date a normie... if like, the normieness was an intentional lifestyle choice on their part." — @myceliummage
@alongpamphlet everything is untranslatable except in context
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@alongpamphlet everything is untranslatable except in context
@Vveeveeanna @alephLibrae yeah I mean this is basically a metaphor obviously what a "thought" is to a neuron is different than it is for a whole human (or a fruit fly) so what I'm doing here is playing with the idea of framing "neuron activates" as it thinking the only thought it knows how to think
and without knowing where that neuron is located, we can't say much about what the thought means, but we can say with certainty that in the context of where the neuron is in the connectome, it is having a perception of something occurring which is relevant
@alongpamphlet by the time 20 minutes have passed, the idea that I'm intentionally following any sort of instruction whatsoever often becomes impossible to hold onto which would include an intent to "clearly experience the experience of not meditating" that's why not.
@b_______taylor how do you know I'm practicing "it" tho? you say do "it" but what am I doing?
@jay_viddy true! sometimes I do this a bunch and enjoy it
@RomeoStevens76 guaranteed? like if I just sit (and don't move?) for 60 minutes, then regardless of whether I'm succeeding at following any other instruction/intention to any degree whatsoever, something interesting will happen?
@RomeoStevens76 (I'm not looking for a "100% certainty" guarantee; I'm checking for whether it's implied that there's anything I need to be doing or not doing in order for the VTEC to kick in)
@uncatherio "days short and getting shorter" season "days short and getting longer" season "days long and getting longer" season "days long and getting shorter" season
@utotranslucence says "SF has four seasons: fall (Oct-May) spring (June-Aug) surprise summer (first 2 weeks in Sept) smoky fall (other 2 weeks in Sept)"
@uncatherio "sun shines through the bedroom window at dawn" season vs "sun rises too far north that it's behind the rest of the building at dawn" season paying attention to how the light is different indoors at different times of year is a (minor) survival skill for enjoying canadian winter
@quotidiania @simulatedsnow maybe not helpful but have you tried 5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel? 😂
my DIY “meditation practice” is much less “pay attention to your breath” (for me that's like being told to pay attention to a teacher who hasn't earned it) and much more “notice what I seem to be paying attention to (/thinking), & how of course it makes sense for that to arise”
@Jeanvaljean689 a couple video games feel like the strongest examples. they were fortunately short-lived
I'm in Brooklyn today serendipity engine do your magic
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Memex is in public beta (again) We closed down our signups earlier this year when we launched Memex' collaboration featur…
@GarrettPetersen there's a classic essay about this called Everyone Is Beautiful and No One Is Horny bloodknife.com/everyone-beaut…
@TylerAlterman one trippy thing I've enjoyed experimenting with on the streets of cities or in malls is to adopt the facial expression of the people I see not caricature, just furrowing as they furrow, hm'ing as they hm, gaping as they gape. so many facial postures I CAN do but never do as me
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I think it would be better for everyone if we stopped saying not-self and started saying not-separate
sane clown posse who's in?
bonesty
just got an test emergency phone alert & I cannot overstate how dumb UX it is that it plays an obnoxious sound + vibrates til you clear the message "hi please read this and consider it while we bother you & others" needs "ack" + "done"
not proven tech, may not pan out but even the fact that people are making progress on such things is encouraging! ift.tt/Gl9VPIb
interesting article about the history of "check your privilege" & its uselessness phrase remarkable lack of curiosity in this phrase that's supposedly about conscious perspective-taking ift.tt/RF8fhBt
the coolest part of game theory is changing the game and there are a lot more games than people realize
@_arvind it should play an obnoxious sound until you ACKNOWLEDGE the message, and then it should let you READ the message in peace the implied vibe of the alert is AHHH DISMISS ME I'M LOUD AND ANNOYING not "HEY! PAY ATTENTION. okay, now that I've got your attention..."
@alinekaeri @DefenderOfBasic in some places I've been, many of the alerts say "a minor is missing, we think they were kidnapped by this person, look for someone matching this description driving a Make Of Car near Cityville" and uhhhh this requires some detailed reading to be useful
@alinekaeri @DefenderOfBasic also while I've never experienced it, I would assume alerts can say specific things like "get out of This Area in Particular which is about to be on fire, and don't flee to Other Area because it's already on fire" (or "underwater" or whatever)
@maraudershields it's techmology, duh youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6HPT…
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I would totally be bored of sleeping with the same damn person for 10+ years the solution in my case is that neither me nor…
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it's time to announce my most ambitious art project so far: a collection of digital paintings called "Invisible Moves,…
@this_is_silvia backed!
"Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty." — Bertrand Russell this quote feels satisfyingly specific and precise. not just "fear bad", but "notice these causal arrows"
@Conaw seems right, tho in the present context there is a bunch of filtering etc needed to make sure you even have remotely compatible concepts of what a relationship/marriage even IS whereas that could in fact be taken for granted back when there was 1 answer from 1 church
@Conaw also arguable the old concepts of what marriage were were optimized for the kinds of trauma people had at the time whereas we're at a phase in history where many of us feel we want something we're not yet capable of recognizing, let alone realizing
@_StevenFan most of my experience dating @utotranslucence (the rest has been merely familiar levels of good)
@BenRatkaj didn't want to have to get a job when I graduated uni so I started working on a software company: intend.do and I kept working on it, reorienting strategically now and then, in part with the help of @IntendApp itself, which made sure I kept my eye on the prize
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it’s free real estate! the only person stopping you from doing 200,000 tweets is you!
do you want to see more art like this? do you want to support the creation of such art? @this_is_silvia has a kickstarter! kickstarter.com/projects/thisi…
that would be hilarious in a stupid absurd way imagine an alert that literally says "something has gone wrong or is about to. unspecified danger of unclear relevance to your situation. you know what to do"
@dpfrank07 @TylerAlterman so far I've never had anybody notice I'm doing it or respond honestly kind of surprised given that I've adopted at least 100 expressions, maybe 500-1000 I can do one every few seconds in a large enough crowd
@quotidiania @simulatedsnow it's not only real it's actually quite good!
@nickcammarata probably this taboo is (helpful!) pushback against the idea that anybody can ever know for sure what will satisfy someone else ultimately I am the arbiter of what satisfies me; you you. I can have a good guess that your approach is confused, but only you can know it directly
@the_wilderless feels kinda meaty, present but not a lot going on
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There is a shocking gap between the quality of art and code LLMs create versus the quality of writing. Is it because of t…
@IanVanagas hmmmm probably a mix of that and something to do with how meaning is an interface to one's web of life experiences (in a way code and pics are not) and LLMs have too weird and generic of a sense of the world, to be able to do that process well.
@nosilverv yeah, rationality and reasons are unfortunately closely linked with justification which is about legibility
@nosilverv the way out is to take a descriptivist approach and recognize that everything you do is utterly rational, just sometimes on a small/disconnected level that is missing key info
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This is Ross Ulbricht. 10 years ago today, Ross was arrested for creating a website. If the government gets their way…
@VinceFHorn everything's a remix more remixes help us all see deeper
@nickcammarata information-theoretically it's bad to push magic buttons
notes-to-Self
@this_is_silvia paging @FANswitchboard
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@chaosprime I'm definitely Emotional conflicts
@univrsw3th4rt yeah normalize replying whenever feels right including if that's never
@NLRG_it @danielgolliher it's another "imperative we"
@mimi10v3 @_StevenFan wat
heard that if you asked bing for a cartoon with an unspecified caption, it would use demographics, but apparently for me the message was something completely else

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I’m not sure there is anything more satisfying than explaining something difficult to someone else to the point that they…
@itinerantfog the thing that replaces schools will be like this and it will be powered by this exact feeling of satisfaction
@this_is_silvia @nat_sharpe_ helps that the project is DOOOPPPE
@nat_sharpe_ can't share details (for reasons that are actually not what you'd think) but: I had a conversation I'd been stressing about for a year (acutely, and in some sense much longer) (and it went totally fine and now I'm hugely relieved)
@strangestloop @nat_sharpe_ ayy lmao
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Seeing people dunk on image generators by generating offensive images like rabbis doing 9/11, and I can't help but feel li…
@stephens_ben @baddestmamajama my parents divorced when I was 23 and while there was tension and unhappiness earlier (never abuse or really nasty dynamics) I'm kinda glad they stuck it out til us kids were adults. so call it maybe half a time ever that somebody has said this
@visakanv you might like mixolumia (also for desktop) twitter.com/_jinklin/statu…
in the phrase "I have yet to see the bison", is the "I have yet" the same construction as in "I have all day to finish this"? like "yet" is a period of time, that refers to the indefinite future?
@QiaochuYuan wants to move to Portland but maybe needs help. DM me if you want into a groupchat for coordinating making that happen. might involve someone going up to Seattle to help him move etc. I'm probably not available for that part but I want to nudge it into happening!
@rupees1hundred that is weird wtf some inflammable shit right here
@rmbalt haha that's fun, I dig it
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so an actual solution to yimbyist complaints is to simply pay compensating variation to incumbents negatively affected by…
@kevin_bowen @eigenrobot what's getting smuggled in with LVT/Georgism?
@AbstractFairy @danallison yeah I was thinking about doing this with a Forum Magnum fork! most of the puzzle is just figuring out how to frame it; what's in, what's out, what's the vibe? partially a function of who shows up but the name matters a lot github.com/ForumMagnum/Fo…
@tombielecki @visakanv nope! indeed seems similar
@visakanv I was a fool, replying to Visa and not linking the thread in which the game designer thinks out loud through the entire process of building the game twitter.com/davemakes/stat…
@CharlesFLehman @RogueWPA @NeverEndFall it's a fair point that prohibition can work for some things but CFCs are the sort of thing that people aren't going to make black markets for—most people want to buy their fridges & ACs from a store, and property developers certainly have to
@lfoulkesy seems likely to me that this is somehow related to CBT often involving counteracting one's own thoughts, which can increase internal division a decent lil tool to use sometimes perhaps, but bad as a default strategy (context here) lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3…
@sVeritasium @steveinpursuit @javipeal @alexandrosM some of yall might like this video in which @RomeoStevens76 kinda rederives God from first principles (note that doing so doesn't imply any holy book's claims are valid; they may be increasingly good pointers to God, relative to something else, or not) youtube.com/watch?v=X6MYsK…
@AskYatharth I have an increasing desire to be able to concentrate longer on subtle phenomena, to play with jhanas or explore metta or whatever and currently all of those are rate-limited by "cannot even attempt to follow literally any instructions eyes-shut for >20mins"
Thread · Why longer sits turn into chaotic thinking rather than meditation · 2 of 5 tweets
to be clear, by ~20mins, it's not like I'm thinking, then noticing I'm thinking, then returning to the breath or whatever. that = meditating I'm thinking, then notici—then thinking my mind gets too chaotic to successfully return my attention to anything
I suppose I could explore doing this anyway, without any deeper intent, and see what happens (I guess that's kind of like shikantaza / "just sit" meditation? but I feel unmotivated to do do things when I don't sense a feedback loop, which seems likely)
this moment is the most present moment there is
@RomeoStevens76 welp, just tried 1h meditation number 1! was just focused on sitting still, no other intent aiming to do another 1h meditation tomorrow and the next day and the next (maybe more if someone/something encourages me to do more than that) (people use "several" different ways..!)
@uncatherio @aphercotropist I kinda feel that but for me there's defs a relief & excitement shortly after winter solstice... tho huh, I guess maybe around imbolc (which is halfway between winter solstice and spring equinox, which would be exactly the start of days-medium-and-quickly-growing-longer season!)
Thread · Why longer sits turn into chaotic thinking rather than meditation · 2 of 5 tweets
just did a 1h sit where I had no intent other than "move as little as I can manage" and I had a lot of back pain but way less overwhelm and I was neither particularly bored nor particularly distracted maybe my overwhelm = cascade of failure then self-judgment then distraction?
like if I think there's something I'm supposed to be doing, & I'm failing to do it, that builds up some sort of aversive thing which makes my mind spin out of control thinking about stuff and refusing to engage with instructions? that's not all of it, but might be part of it 🤔
@HephaistosF @mimi10v3 @mimi10v3 insofar as it's relevant, you have my social permission to take care of yourself however you need/want to, but not on the basis of justifying that somebody else deserves the consequences of that as a punishment because they're in the wrong
@jacksonrichards @MattPirkowski explain it in a tweet?
@AskYatharth curious to hear about your motivations too!
@AskYatharth honestly I'm just curious! I hear about lots of meditations and it seems like interesting stuff to explore but it almost feels like people are talking about cool foods and I have no sense of taste (or find all foods nauseating)
@AskYatharth I suspect there's also some dimension of feeling like the cool kids are Succeeding At Meditating and some shame that I Don't Know How... I have WAY less of that than I used to tho
@AskYatharth but also listening to Vervaeke and others has given me a sense of the way in which some kinds of meditation, properly done (a big catch) result in extended insight cascades or flow states or whatever
@Simon95836777 ahh I was looking for that awhile ago but at this point I don't do cutting metaphors
@maybegray I knew an nb person who proposed "ankle"
@VinceFHorn hm, to each their own. I tend to favor highlighting both sides of things at once, so that people don't: - reject what I'm saying because it contradicts something else they can tell for themselves - override what they can tell for themselves because I seem wise
@deadly_onion @Conaw ever gotten close enough to me to verify that my birthmark isn't stick-on? 😜
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Wait… @Malcolm_Ocean
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how long since your clipboard has felt empty?
@chipmonkmonk I'm not trying to answer the question of what someone trapped in victim mindset should do—in first person, it's not ideal to believe you're just broken but in terms of worthwhile modeling interventions I might do from outside, it matters if it works for some ppl & not others
@s_r_constantin @mattgiammarino yup, this is totally a thing and is not the thing I'm talking about! some people get falsely accused, imprisoned, and make the most of their situation, to read, work out, meditate, etc! = mucho victim, nada victim mindset
@HephaistosF @s_r_constantin @mattgiammarino we could just be really goodharted at it
@AskYatharth @abhayance oh I remember something about the thread it was something about how you didn't expand your awareness until you were ready to have more awareness, something like that. you had a few with the same structure
@visakanv ("one of the best" is maybe more emphatic than I want to be here, but I think this has the potential to be close to a "focus your energy"-level QTable)
@Gena_I_Gorlin huhhh yeah, "frontline warrior" feels super weird to me. you don't want a "war" metaphor in medicine afaict. I would recommend instead maybe focusing on framing them as "learners"
@Gena_I_Gorlin in service of the more general puzzle, you might find "blameless postmortems" to be useful reading! etsy.com/codeascraft/bl…
@Gena_I_Gorlin and you might also like my post Whose Job Is This? which talks at a high-level about transcending blame by getting really specific on exactly where each person had or didn't have agency! malcolmocean.com/2023/08/whose-…
@eigenrobot I didn't yet know there were shocking videos yet to be watched-or-not, so "dont watch the videos" was helpful! (I triangulated it using this tweet)
@jessicamalonso @abhayance beautiful, yes
@MediClit @jessicamalonso what we're talking about here re "victim mindset" is not about whether you were victim of some wrong, but about a mode of relating that denies one's own agency, causing a few problems: - blaming others in ways that are confused - insistence on suffering extra until others change
Thread · Pointing the way out of victim mindset without victim-blaming · 2 of 13 tweets
ahh, got some clarity here about what I even mean by "victim mindset"
good reflections in the replies (this tweet in particular, and also what's above & below it)
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@MediClit @jessicamalonso what we're talking about here re "victim mindset" is not about whether you were victim of some…
@MediClit by "love people into not being victims anymore" I mean something like "thoroughly solve the thing that is causing their victimization" not just "tell them I love you" or whatever
@HephaistosF devise a way to enjoy himself and have success that's somehow even more entertaining than the scenes where he's thwarted (which would of course practically make him a different character, but either he accepts his role as Guy Who Gets Thwarted or he becomes A Different Guy)
Retweeted @jessicamalonso
@abhayance @Malcolm_Ocean It’s a delicate dance, IME. I believe attention wants to move beneficially, so if it feels st…
just tagged this with "underrated tweets" because every time somebody asks for one I can never think of them
@glpat99 @Kirsten3531 we have discounts if you like it but can't afford it! but in any case, it doesn't particularly support most of the planning features
@makoConstruct the apparent necessity of these tasks is suspect they are handed to us, but the impression that we MUST BEHAVE is fake (and has this flavor)
@makoConstruct which is not to say that the natural processes of life don't ALSO overwhelm us. but, existentially-speaking, we can simply be overwhelmed. and maybe die. but that is an option, in a sense. (here's my take on the evolution of the ego & how it all relates) malcolmocean.com/2023/07/supere…
@forthrighter that's definitely a big piece it gets hard when they insist I'm not really listening unless I {do X, admit I'm doing Y, punish Z} and yet
@forthrighter but they may not be able to tell I'm listening, and it's not for me to insist that they should be able to tell that I'm listening! (and also sometimes even though I'm Listening I'm not listening)
@TPSReport it's the main challenge I'm working on! if you want to read my work on this, you might like this intro to my meta-framework on it: malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…
@TPSReport or this piece reaches into my sense of what's possible here (and the challenges on the way) malcolmocean.com/2022/10/open-l…
@HephaistosF @MediClit @jessicamalonso I'm not saying either of the things that you're saying I'm absolutely correct about I don't believe in "simply" [stand up and walk out]
@HephaistosF @MediClit @jessicamalonso and I absolutely think that the world has a response-ability to to demonstrate to someone that it isn't what it seems to them to be (not up to them to "just" recognize that it isn't)
@HephaistosF @MediClit @jessicamalonso AND insofar as my physical or emotional circumstances limit me to a low-bandwidth channel with the person cowering in the room, I am attempting to figure out what messages could plausibly help someone bootstrap figuring that out themselves, and in what circumstances
@HephaistosF @s_r_constantin @mattgiammarino it definitely does for me one has forgotten what all the point of everything is (/qlipphotic, perhaps) blame & punishment seem to work because they produce apparent compliance but they also produce a bunch of hiding and other bullshit
@brownslacks some real "no true scotsman" shit going on in the replies here
also, if you haven't already, please take a moment
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Institutionalized citizen assemblies will be a big deal. I'll be curious to see whether one of general vs topic focused…
@HephaistosF @jessicamalonso @waryporcupine @gpurcell @mimi10v3 yeah I think it was inspired by this "skill issue" exchange in particular (but yeah also the whole context of everything)
@HephaistosF @jessicamalonso @waryporcupine @gpurcell @mimi10v3 I would have before I made that thread and then finally read a bunch of the replies today (particularly @jessicamalonso's) but now I'm seriously reconsidering the whole frame
@HephaistosF @jessicamalonso @waryporcupine @gpurcell @mimi10v3 which I feel like is sort of a long time coming, eg this old exchange
Thread · Pointing the way out of victim mindset without victim-blaming · 4 of 13 tweets
ahhh, thinking about how learning about how "karpman's drama triangle" (which is about victim mindset) has been profoundly liberating for people to notice-they're-in-and-then-gtfo but actually intentionally using it as a frame in a situation causes it
thus, as with non-coercive marketing there's value to sharing some version of the memes that allow people to do the GTFO version but you want to share them not in a "YOU NEED THIS" way, but more in a "here's a thing that might help some people—I hope they find it"
but memes around victimhood are perhaps particularly weaponizable. which is now feeling like my Non-Naive Trust Dance insight but from a different angle. insights are fucking weird man.
I'm broadly concluding (acutely from what @jessicamalonso wrote but also @HephaistosF's ongoing poking) that "victim mindset" is a confused way to think about this
@RichardHanania my guess is Shakespeare comes out obviously on top if what you're measuring is literary influence (where of course you'd expect older to be top, tho not all old writers would even be in the running!) it's a totally different type of excellence than "won standardized contest"
even more objectively, if you rank writers by "how many words and phrases did they coin that are now part of standard english", I'm pretty sure Shakespeare completely outclasses literally everyone this isn't "best writer" but it points at a level of achievement as-yet-unbested
@JMSifter I don't have strong opinions about Shakespeare as a good storyteller or playwright per se, but I think there's a decent case to be made that nobody before or since Shakespeare has played so thoroughly with the language
@HephaistosF @jessicamalonso @waryporcupine @gpurcell @mimi10v3 yep. on my map we're very much going between steps 1 & 2 here where I'm taking your experience in as fast as I can without overwhelming my own experience (with some safety buffer) and there's still a TON for me to do to verifiably hear you.
@HephaistosF @jessicamalonso @waryporcupine @gpurcell @mimi10v3 (and when I say "as fast as I can" etc, that includes my own sense of relevance, which doesn't consist solely of trying to understand your view but consists of a complex gem of which that is one facet)
downthread, this person is saying "this is context on who to blame", which weakens the potential point here, which is a both-and the point, imv, is that downward spirals gonna downward spiral.
(I know about 4 vague tweetsworth about recent events, and not particularly much about the decades of context here; I'm not making an object-level comment about that since I'm not an agent in that arena. I'm commenting on how we tell these sorts of stories in general.)
"tweetsworth" is a lovely word that I just coined but many others have already coined it
@e1g @webdevMason the key is to not be "most people" visakanv.com/blog/most-peop…
@webdevMason what's the link for this site?
@webdevMason super shortsighted too, like the kid isn't eventually gonna realize that not only is santa not real but you've been reverse-santa-ing them every year too?
@webdevMason yeah I've recently been getting kinda anti-macro-pilled learning about metabolic syndrome and how it makes a difference to your digestive system whether the fiber you eat is STUCK to the carbs you eat or separate (stuck means slower, which is better for digestion)
@webdevMason also a key part of this model is that obesity doesn't come from "eat bad stuff, bad stuff turns into fat", it comes from "eat bad stuff, bad stuff confuses metabolism, confused metabolism insists on overeating and putting on weight."
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When we see images of bloodshed and atrocity, it's deeply human for our passions to stir. I know this intimately: 9/11 and…
go read this, it speaks much more eloquently about what matters at this point.
@giray_arat I had it as a unit of measurement: "4 tweetsworth"
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A Long-Form Ban Appeal From Shako I was banned on Twitter a few weeks ago, the reason was for violent speech. Samswara w…
@RichDecibels got a good source?
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The Dandy Lion

@JakeOrthwein @nosilverv hmmmm yes. something juicy here. feels subtly relevant to a bunch of stuff I haven't managed to name yet, related to trust and Real Talk and other things
everyone can Real Talk if you can speak their dialect
this is the heart of intend.do's philosophy, all else is commentary
Retweeted @RichDecibels
a move you can do to invite people to feel belonging: watch their participation in a group, tune into what parts of that…
solution there, it seems to me, is to show up to the date as the vast blooming buzzing confusion
@AskYatharth ahh, yes. very much same vein.
in light of recent events, I would like to remind everybody
@my_nm_is_jns @VividVoid_ mmm, perhaps! if you want to see if you can convey some of the relevant aspects of Arab/Palestinian culture,
what have you learned in your years of research and brarnbsouiding?

(source: DALL-E 3 ofc, specifically this tweet)
@RichDecibels and apparently part of where your organ and mine keep interfacing is around this very point!
@RichDecibels and this, etc:
my soul is made of what common knowledge feels like
@RichDecibels (relatedly, it seems to me (and to others, eg @Morphenius) that my organ is some sort of perspective-bridging system)
Thread · The self-defeating logic of "if you're not with us, you're against us" · 1 of 4 tweets
also the issue here is the positive objective assertion: "if you're not with us, THEN IT IS THE CASE THAT you're against us" no such issue with "if I can't tell you've got my back, then I hope you'll understand that I will distrust you"
@nickcammarata creating a bunch of tangles as a result of going deep in a way that doesn't respect everything encountered on the way in and/or layering of some kind.
fyeah after some experimentation, I have concluded that most dresses don't look good on me/men (some work as long tops, still with pants on). it is therefore evil for us to wear them but tons of "ladies' clothes" look great on me/men so it is good to dress accordingly
@GarnetBees @yesterdaysprint I mean yes but also usually not
@slimepriestess I'm saying that my soul in particular seems to have this nature, whereas others seem to have other natures your soul may be similar tho! seems likely in fact. (we're both, I think, using "soul" in very bespoke ways, which may not be remotely compatible)
@meaning_enjoyer ahh man there is a great tweet (by @QiaochuYuan iirc) about this phenomenon
@meaning_enjoyer @QiaochuYuan ah yeah and I'm also thinking of this tweet which he quotes
@meaning_enjoyer @QiaochuYuan in other words
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
check it out, this QT is nested 2-deep I am a motherfucking wizard 🧙♀️ (click through to understand) …
@HephaistosF ~tunics also work really well for me
@HephaistosF nah, via the edit feature posted one version with the full text, which is quotable but when you click through it shows the updated version where the 2nd part is an embed
@primalpoly there's a mythic combat technique called "trigger your opponent into getting dysregulated so they look dumb" and taking this policy too seriously would make that a better strategy, which would be bad for literally everybody (but yes, it is some amount of useful evidence)
but also in general both sides are right that they're facing a problem, and being in a dumb/fanatic state is mostly a sign that someone's proposed solution is bad and that there's alpha in helping them find a better one
tell me something about the kind(s) of organ you enjoy being in a superorganism, or what you observe about someone else
@itinerantfog hey @m_ashcroft it's the mistake again
@RichDecibels this is a huge part of it in practice there are people that we don't know how to accept (except at a very far distance) and who don't know how to accept themselves as they are, and any given one of these situations is exactly where it is in this process, moving or stuck
@muddletoes @RichDecibels cancer's not an organ we all have moments when we lose touch with the larger environment that supports us, and in our experience of separateness, harm it but we can help each other find ways that we're excited to contribute
@RichDecibels there is some weird temporal stuff where once the person is in fact pragmatically accepted as they are, it will turn out that they already were adequate to have been able to become accepted, even tho none of us knew how to do it at the time accessing that in advance is Grace
@becomingbabyman @AskYatharth @RichDecibels "we're ready to accept you. are you?" implies maybe there's something about the person accepting themselves being a block on being able to experience others' acceptance? which it seems it often is... ...and yet also often it's blocked precisely the other way
@RichDecibels I got you a nice meta-level take over here
@RichDecibels yep, except to the degree we're not allowed to have it! (ie where it conflicts with other basic needs and our awareness contracts around those instead)
@alex_here_now @RichDecibels sunsets are one of my favorite highs but they can't get you high all day
@joriamramos @RichDecibels aha yes, tag me when you post it
@RichDecibels check out my superorganism song demo (still need to make a good version, also I've since written a whole third section)
@imperialauditor @nickcammarata that's one version, yeah
@makoConstruct what do you mean? also to be clear, to some extent I'm talking about kids where like, they don't have the requisite skills to do that investigation, so they store up behavior patterns that involve carrying burdens etc
@jacksonrichards @MattPirkowski cool. but is that what people are ever talking about when they say "Marxist dogma"? are you just trying to untar his name, or are you saying there are key ideas that we need to recover from him specifically?
@jacksonrichards @MattPirkowski I'm broadly down for untarring folks' names, but we do need good shorthand for referring to the thing that is usually known these days (both by proponents and detractors) as Marxism do you have another word for that?
@jacksonrichards @MattPirkowski and would most current Marxists even recognize complexity econ / commodity fetishization as part of Marxism? because if not, then I think the ship has kinda sailed on what that word means
Retweeted @aphercotropist
Does anyone here live games programming? I have game designs Game 1: the witness meets hollow knight meets Gunz and me…
@slimepriestess it does seem to me like we have a conflict on this axis also glad it's in the open. I hope we can keep the borders relatively unwasted
@my_nm_is_jns @VividVoid_ that sounds good to me! does that ultimately imply a 2-state solution? or something else? interesting to think about this as a kind of collective / society-level moral development analogous to kegan stages etc (maybe it maps onto spiral dynamics... red-to-blue?)
"if you're not with us, you're against us" ❌ asserts "it is the case that" ❌ implies objectivity ❌ false binary "if we can't tell you're with us, then we must take precautions towards you as if you might be against us" ✅ perspectival ✅ healthy boundaries ✅ non-accusatory
Thread · The self-defeating logic of "if you're not with us, you're against us" · 1 of 4 tweets
in other words, "if I/we can't tell you're NOT against me/us, then I/we must take precautions towards you as if you might be against me/us" yes! of course you must! absolutely!
@slimepriestess huh twitter lost a 2nd reply I tried to add about how you've highlighted an element of hypocrisy in the potential pressure of my original tweet, which I will chew on (separate from the point I'm trying to make with the tweet, which I'm pretty sure I stand by)
@slimepriestess also I'm not so much advocating for a civility norm but highlighting something about how binary thinking and sides-forcing impedes dialogue and thereby impedes sensemaking & problem-solving (other things, such as oppression, also do this; sides-forcing isn't the worst/only sin)
@mimi10v3 sometimes precautions are violent but what got us here won't get us there
life isn't for avoiding heartbreak 💔 the question is how to hold each other when our hearts need healing ❤️🩹
Retweeted @utotranslucence
Does anyone who is pro-UBI have links to arguments against the idea that it will simply increase the cost of positiona…
@utotranslucence GQs. I'm also curious. one broad point is basically like "it's like welfare but with less stupid bureaucratic overhead, fewer wasted hours jumping through hoops, and better incentives around people being able to pick up a little work without losing all their benefits"
@utotranslucence but I don't think that directly addresses any of your questions, and only indirectly addresses them a tad
@makoConstruct perhaps not, but you can hold them on the way
@the_wilderless @utotranslucence @cherylshoe "📍 the imaginal" ...off to a good start here
I assume the best of people by reserving their right to assume the worst
@mormo_music I must or I am willfully endangering myself and disrespecting my own sensemaking process, by treating an apparent danger as not-a-danger, so I will. it's sort of a decision but it's also sort of not a decision
@tracewoodgrains > Asserting power is not a neutral act. You tell people: I have identified a problem. I know what will make it better. Trust me—let me step in, let me Do Something—and the world will become a better place.
I want to make the world a better place and I would like to be trusted with exactly as much power to do anything about that as people are glad to entrust me with. I'm working to earn more trust, and I'm in no rush.
@__drewface this is a delightful blog. I love getting to read these perspectives. reminds me of my own blog a bit, which I started at age... 13 or 14. something about the simplicity and clarity and sincerity of the thoughts.
@VinceFHorn true, tho pre-woke folks are still pointing out ways in which wokism is failing to be an adequate upgrade for their way of seeing, because it's denying stuff obvious to them, and many who adopt a woke worldview end up repressing aspects of their experience
I once listened to one of my podcast episodes months after it was recorded, and it was like an hour straight of "damn this guy GETS IT." very satisfying 10/10 would recommend
Retweeted @daniel_271828
I think AI X-risk critics should preface criticism w/ either, "Yes, if we were on the cusp of AGI in a similar situation…
@provisionalidea @DavidSHolz flower in your hair youtube.com/watch?v=LlVwcB…
@sashachapin @embryosophy @jessielochrie gonna run another one? I want to hang out a "relationship trust breakdown" coaching shingle we'll get a whole pipeline going!
Retweeted @IntendApp
aesthetic inspiration from bing based on my bio what do you think? does intend.do need more flowers? https://…
neat lil post about how languages are hyperobjects
this is a brilliant and tragically necessary ridiculously overengineered compensatory solution for the fact that in most mens' pants EXCEPT FOR JEANS, the pockets go out the side, rather than down the front kickstarter.com/projects/pocke…
merely by virtue
so people are like "kids these days" & then people are like "actually people have been saying 'kids these days' for as long as we have records" but how far can you go back and find people saying "actually people have been saying 'kids these days' for as long as we have records"?
friend was going back and forth between two parts in relation to a new plan: 1. excited bubbly "yeah feels good I wanna do this" 2. "uh that sounds reasonable" (but not motivated) you can see this as a conflict, OR maybe 2nd part's job isn't motivation, just vetoing bad plans!
@_J_Q_D_ why stop there when you could study the social history of the social history of catastrophizing?
@visakanv DSM fallacy is definitely related to this
wait does the new show more feature trigger not just with tweets longer than 280 chars but also just really tall ones?
@aphercotropist did it do that not just when in reply mode but in the TL?
fear isn't the mindkiller, shame is
turns out too much and too little are both bad
me & @utotranslucence are gonna check out the ring of fire eclipse this saturday morning, which will involve driving ~6h from SF and camping in her car somewhere 😎🌻🌄 haven't yet decided where—if you've planned a spot and want company let us know!
@OrphicCapital yet more evidence that I'm secretly ADHD and built intend.do to compensate 😅
Retweeted @OrphicCapital
one of the reasons I think ADHD types are overwhelmingly night owls, is because it takes an entire day to re-construct y…
@utotranslucence oh man I was counting on amazon having one-day shipping on eclipse glasses and as far as I can tell they're dropping the ball (they are DEFINITELY dropping the ball on letting me filter search by shipping speed smfh) anybody in the bay have spare glasses?
can't shake the feeling that pokémon is like animals but for people who wanted taxonomy trees and evolution to be perfectly clean and discrete rather than messy and fuzzy
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 70 - conversation cool to post to the internet a live convo of working through business ideas. I love the unfiltered work-with-the-garage-door-up vibes
A nuanced yet bold take on present & past context re Israel. (I'd say "if you read one thing about what's happening rn, have it be this one" except I haven't read many others to compare)
wait but there can't be ai-generated videos of violent events, since the AIs won't make those.. I don't understand..?!? twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
@browserdotsys I don't like shitting my pants nor do I like cleaning up having shat my pants (don't expect anything other than a glomarized response if you ask me how much experience I have with this) maybe your baby wants to shit somewhere other than his pants 🤷♀️
@browserdotsys (I jest, but this is, I believe, the reasoning behind "elimination communication", which aims to have babies held over a basin to poop from very early on)
@CoughsOnWombats what! impossible! you really think people will get past the restrictions?!
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 71 - lil video for a big change (I'm way behind on tweeting this for reasons I've forgotten)
why are you stuck on that thing? might be because it's impossible given the constraints and some subconscious part of you knows that but you're still trying to do it so you go in circles youtu.be/t-fOBcClxpk
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 72 - intentionality idea presentation
Retweeted @alexeyguzey
Over the years, I've noticed how many of the people I admire the most have a very deep feeling of God, despite this feelin…
@pippinbarr apparently nobody has actually posted as a reply here that @alexeyguzey made a game inspired by this tweet guzey.com/x/
The laws of physics constrain what can't happen but outside certain closed scenarios they don't tell us what WILL.
> Those laws of physics are so fundamentally indeterminate that they are responsible for very little of what really matters in the future.

@alexeyguzey oooh I really love this one. vibes a lot with Stuart Kauffman's Reinventing the Sacred, which you'll probably like if you like these quotes
@utotranslucence okay we solved the glasses thing! some libraries have free ones to give out (SFPL and a couple in east bay) starnetlibraries.org/about/our-proj…
@MattPirkowski what's your fav intro to Levin's Cognitive Light Cones?
this tweet was from before I'd had my non-naive trust dance insight mid-2020 but it feels like it comes from the same generator or something
I feel that one of my strengths/weaknesses as a thinker is that I'm down to believe that human experiences and cultures and minds can be unfathomably different, without putting too much stock in any particular "therefore" as following from that.
so eg some people read Preconquest Consciousness and are like "that can't be true, because it would contradict ____" and while I'm generally in favor of such modus tollens moves, in this sort of context I feel we don't know enough to really say
somewhat harder given my personal bias is doing the same with depictions of cruel experiences/minds/cultures but even more important. to allow those to exist, even if I don't know how to integrate them with my own experience
tho ofc you may be incapable of teasing apart the "therefore" in your own worldmodel, in which case that's what's so might be helpful for dialogue if you can shift from "that can't be true" to "I can't trust that" tho
low executive function is a symptom of being under listened-to
@SeishinWrites hmmmm my sense is that this is reifying something about the nature of truth/lies/belief
@SeishinWrites somehow this feels relevant too
interesting thread tho imo it's a bit optimistic on finding a way out afaict we can find a way up and a way in, but no way out t.co/1MQMTCqRxq
most to-do apps promise you control over your life 🐕🦺 intend.do, more realistically, offers to be a surfboard for the waves 🏄♀️
form is emptiness, and emptiness form can I make it any more obvious? 🎶
due to eclipse plans, I'm gonna miss this epic concert in SF tonight. I have a spare ticket I'll forward to a friend who wants it. if you want to get a sense of what you'd be in for, watch the first couple minutes of this youtube.com/watch?v=wnzEKy…
you can also buy tickets here: ticketweb.com/event/arkells-…
@RichDecibels gave it a shot. 4 bookmarks / 13 likes... people want to come back & contemplate it?
likewise, marry a woman who loves you where you are, gentlemen twitter.com/selentelechia/…
huge w twitter.com/JimDuxhette/st…
Retweeted @MattPirkowski
You may have seen my recent activity here concerning the intellectual and social lineage of Marxism and inferred that I'…
@MattPirkowski fuck yeah. really digging your articulations on this stuff
@clarityscape not sure if it's necessarily self-coercive... could just be tradeoffs that you, on balance, are freely making
@clarityscape my approach would thus be to expand possibilities, consider various other ways of dealing with both - the overwhelm etc - the need to achieve the result and aim to experience freedom to move in many directions. then see what, on balance, feels best
perhaps you don't HAVE a viable option that doesn't add some layer somewhere but in some sense there's always the option to not unwillingly or unwittingly add layers
Retweeted @the_wilderless
“Today, I'm giving myself a jubilee — I'm just going to use language as a paintball gun to splatter y'all with meaning…
Retweeted @slimepriestess
Did you know there's an annular solar eclipse (that means the moon blocks the sun but not quite fully) TOMORROW morning…
individual awakening solves at most 1% of the puzzle of collective awakening
@sashachapin @Meaningness @Meaningness, who has written a great free online book describing the oft-ignored medium-sized risks from AI! between discrimination and extinction lies a whole bunch of potential shitshows: betterwithout.ai
@RichDecibels you're not free to not worry about something to the degree that you expect something to happen that you'd punish yourself for not having tried harder to mitigate (this insanity can be solved by decreasing self-punishment tendencies tho, separate from the events themselves)
@AndrewCutler13 I mean there are two kinds of "unpopular opinion", one of which is "familiar heresy" and the other is "questioning something nobody else even has considered" the latter sometimes gets fewer swords because people don't have a habit of defending the original position!
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
to improvise is to surrender to the Divine, which is precisely why so many people have a hard time with it
@sidewayskoyote @generatorman_ai @eigenrobot Koyote, as a mutual who generally appreciates your perspective, I want to comment that you seem to be in a reduced capacity here—"you people" etc feels a bit lowbrow. I don't have a clear take on the power infra stuff, but I want to say I expect better from you dialogue-wise. ❤️
Retweeted @MattPirkowski
It’s a nice sentiment, yet… Our inability to cooperate bottom-up will forever leave an organizational void filled by to…
@AskYatharth Get you some Anglish
@bashu_thanks Here's a creation exploring the topic "Art is choosing what to breathe life into" malcolmocean.com/2023/03/art-is…
@mechanical_monk I made a couple close friends by looking up local Circling/AR events. Could do similar, with that or some other event. Also where are you? I also made friends by having twitter people introduce me to their local friends!
Retweeted @ESYudkowsky
Staring at this, thinking about how literally not one person on the face of the Earth predicted a point in future history…
Retweeted @the_wilderless
The drive to “awaken” is, in our time, misguided It’s good if some folks go for total awakening, But overall, at the…
@QiaochuYuan @RichDecibels Non-coercively doesn't have to mean "bottom-up" I think. It could mean something like "top proposes something and asks for vetos, in light of the fact that other options are possible but have their own costs". Allowing objections but not just waiting for movement to emerge.
I saw a tweet somewhere (@eigenrobot's threads or the replies?) talking about the history of failed attempts to have the rest of the Arabic world adopt the Palestinians... and I wanted to read it but I've lost track of it. Anyone have leads?
great lil case study of a business's culture evolving towards self-organization "A True Win-Win-Win" linkedin.com/pulse/true-win…
@PunishedRobot @eigenrobot aha yeah that was almost certainly the tweet I was thinking of, thanks
@RichDecibels wait is an upward triangle way easier? what about sideways? what about a triangle that almost has a flat base but it's actually like 5° askew?
(HT @nickredmark for finding the link)
@eigenrobot ah yup this is it doesn't really make things feel clear but I'm getting a rough sense of "various places tried to take refugees from Palestine and the result was civil unrest" twitter.com/eigenrobot/sta…
Retweeted @the_wilderless
@the_wilderless the upward-spiral will incorporate it sooner or later!
@visakanv interestingly, not true of me; I don't get notifications for my "notifications" and since I can only check them all at once I check them more rarely
@grin_io holy shit you really did, wow. maximum SF
@alexislearning I'm a 7w8, you can hear some of my takes on that type and the enneagram in general twitter.com/search?q=from%…
@alexislearning I also recommend @Morphenius's takes x.com/search?q=from%…
@algekalipso new qualia basis vector just dropped "Scientists unlock the secrets of a sixth basic flavor" phys.org/news/2023-10-s…
Retweeted @PrinceVogel
I am absolutely begging you to read this quote and then have a long think about how you use twitter
file this under "you can just tell people things and change their lives" [and in this case also the entire course of history]
what do you call the big aims that you organize your life towards? (what you've chosen to focus on, amongst many possibilities. what you measure your progress in relation to. what matters most to you. etc)
context: we're overhauling the Goal-Crafting Intensive content, and considering renaming the big life directiony things (that so far we've called "goals")
one candidate we have is "intentions", which I like in many ways, but I worry it might confuse people who use Intend/Complice, where "intentions" currently refers to "intentions for today", ie small tangible actions etc., rather than overarching aims
@DRMacIver within a system of thinking, something that is taken to be true (or relevant) as part of the conditions of being able to think in the frame of that system system of thinking could be as precise as a formal mathematical system, or as loose as a political or religious ideology
@DonatelloChris best missile <3
Retweeted @AskYatharth
"i have a feeling of wrongness" "let's go investigate it!" ☺️ vs "i have a feeling of wrongness" "oh noooo first we mus…
@QiaochuYuan I've gradually realized over the past years that one of the reasons I've been quite loud/domineering in conversations is that to the extent that I (or my autopilot) is running the show, the conversation is less likely to be overwhelming to process in real-time interesting cope
this seems like very @myceliummage vibes wired.com/story/lexicon-…

@forthrighter @the_wilderless mmm yeah, something about "unhappy intelligence" as joyless, not just present to grief distrust joyless intelligence distrust griefless wisdom
Retweeted @the_wilderless
“Distrust unhappy intelligence” is one heuristic, coexists alongside “most wisdom is veined with grief”
@tasshinfogleman building solar panels in a factory - how manufacturing works, re machines, parts, shelves, tools, labour - blue collar cultures (eg they'd call it a "welding ticket", not "certificate") - how to count in other bases (I had spare thought cycles and a lot of counting to do 😅)
@river_kenna not directly on topic but here's my rant about how LFB is sort of onto something but also very confused
@Anand_Venkatram @river_kenna you feel it WITH the brain but you feel it IN the body vital distinction (this video is about this and may be of interest to you or to River) youtube.com/watch?v=Tc0j2K…
@HephaistosF there's a truth to your experience that's before words, before anything said see if you can find it
Thread · My first erasure poem, and getting blocked for it · 1 of 4 tweets
my first erasure poem

@poetryalpastor my contribution!
Thread · My first erasure poem, and getting blocked for it · 1 of 4 tweets
context: (also here's a screenshot in case it gets deleted, which I initially thought it had but it was just that NDJ blocked this QTer)

@visakanv wow this account has deleted itself, only 9h later. want to try to recapitulate what this tweet was about?
@rajlearns @visakanv I've found one of the most important things is having enough time that I can pursue tangents 2-3 deep and still actually get to the end of something rather than having a forced choice between breadth and depth
@abhayance @visakanv wow, really appreciating this.
@magicianbrain "a new F" 😙👌
@magicianbrain so true!
doing 3 loads of laundry on a hot day be like "I hate clothes I never want to wear them again"
crack for the edge-detection parts of the visual cortex
@Pinuvet wait what?
@VinveliVEERA @visakanv incredible reply game veerasamy
@visakanv then you'll love birb job interview abvice
if you are, thus far, a lurker, and would like to say hi, you can do so in reply to this message 👋🌊 (and tell us something that's been on your mind lately!)
@myceliummage ahhh this is such a you-shaped thought I love it
@myceliummage wanted to connect this with something and this is what came to mind
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
What business entity should Fractal University be? LLC? Nonprofit? etc Priorities are: 1. The quality of our classes, r…
@PatrikTheDev @meowkoteeq @luciascarlet @emoblackgirl420 @dimdenEFF @browsercompany you can alter website css in any browser by using a userstyle extension like Stylus! chrome.google.com/webstore/detai…
@velazandu @aeolaf I'm also curious even if it is secret, I'd love to be teased with something vague or impressionistic
@hollowearthterf @paro_android
Retweeted @PrinceVogel
One of the most powerful changes Twitter could make is creating an "old" feed which tries to show you ancient tweets you m…
The question I would be asking if I were @Mozilla: why are people who are building new browsers basing their browsers on Chromium, NOT Firefox? eg @ArcInternet is seeing major success atm, but it just contributes to the Chromium share. (The issue, ICYMI, is that if Firefox dies then Google will kind of own the internet and this monoculture will be very bad.) If the answer is a technical issue, solve it. Literally don't spend technical time on anything else that could be spent on solving it. If the answer is that these companies WANT the ability to ship closed source forks, which they can do with Chromium but (as I understand it) can't do with Firefox given its license... then uhh maybe that's a sign that Firefox needs to allow that to happen!!! (in order to continue to be competitive in this ecosystem) Given that nobody has the resources to start from scratch at this phase and make a THIRD browser engine that implements the entire web spec, maybe there needs to be the possibility of profit from forking Firefox!
@Yay_Special_Kay @tasshinfogleman I like this rederivation of God over here, although indeed it lacks clear practical guidance. youtube.com/watch?v=X6MYsK…
@Yay_Special_Kay @tasshinfogleman hi and welcome to... wherever this is! I'm sorta vaguely thinking about beavers building dams, and wondering how you might go about shaping your environment to offer a better for for the shape you are...
Thread · My first erasure poem, and getting blocked for it · 1 of 4 tweets
"sure" is not. someone —or, God— call me.

@imperialauditor @ElodesNL reminds me of
@EthanReeder inspired in part by our convo and in part by some convos with other friends, I decided to experiment with just making it be for sale here: would be curious to hear your thoughts on how the sales page could be improved malcolmocean.gumroad.com/l/how-we-get-t…
@the_wilderless I did a ton of this for Iain McGilchrist's book/model I've gotten at least a dozen people to read it—that I'm aware of; probably way more when counting 2nd order effects or people who just read one of my threads and bought the book without saying anything
tfw your bluetooth earbuds pair with your phone but you don't actually know where in the room the phone is
ah fuck I think it's on airplane mode so I can't even use Find My Device
@HephaistosF they're both EM emission spectra but so is light (and some planes have wifi) and they must be different wavelengths both for obvious reasons and because bluetooth has a range of about 15m and mobile signal is idk 1km or 10km or something
40 minutes later my room is a lot cleaner and I still haven't found my phone
@HephaistosF totally but maybe it just doesn't interfere with whatever the plane is doing in whatever other channel?
okay I am pretty damn sure it's in the bedroom, based on the pattern of "connected" and "no device connected" I get when I turn on the bluetooth earbuds at different points in the house
the frame problem strikes again!
............in retrospect, "bathrobe pocket" should have been a top candidate, before "under this pile of laundry" or "in the closet" I didn't think I needed to check pockets since it's been hot today and I've only been wearing these tiny pj shorts.
man, compared to our forefathers, we hear so many more voices in our ears that others can't hear probably part of why things are so fragmented 🎧
@Lithros 12/8 tho
@HephaistosF @mimi10v3 pi.ai seemed substantially better for conversation than GPT, the one time I tried it. Worth at least experimenting with maybe.
Retweeted @tasshinfogleman
going to start lovingly peer pressuring my wise and brilliant friends to post essays on topics the world wants and nee…
@jessicamalonso ❤️🔥
@RichDecibels wait wait no don't add his buzzword, add myyyy buzzword
@aleksil79 ahhhh mood the good ol' friddlydazmilagoolia
An interpersonal relationship also has a "personal" natural ordering for its trust-dancing. What arises is somehow relevant, even if you don't know how.
@itinerantfog I'm into this Also I've been thinking of doing @interintellect_ salons for my unfinished drafts, as a way to clarify them on the way out. Could be worth considering. I'd be down to co-host w you if you want.
Tag yourself I'm FOPPPER
@tallsnail Tried to send a gif of a kid clapping but it wouldn't send. ❤️
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@chercher_ai Worshipping a deity is not about pleasing an actual conscious being, but about finding a pattern in reality, wh…
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may all beings lfg 🙏
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>The masses persist in saying things one way, while the professionals insist on saying them another. So the masses tune ou…
@itinerantfog You might appreciate this post from some circumstances similar to yours buddhism-for-vampires.com/buddhist-death…
@PrinceVogel @ctrlcreep vibes, nice
@bronzebarbarian @eigenrobot Norm meme?
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Woohoo!! An enormous challenge but finally finished spread from #Nostos #Unflattening 2! As my dad noted, “there’s a whole b…
good adjacent concept to what @TadHargrave calls Hub Marketing, where you market via befriending and impressing hype-benders
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I’m going to start collecting elaborate quotations for mundane phrases. E.g., to quote the late Kurt Cobain, who was quot…
@PhilipDBunn ahhh, beautiful a related art form I've been feeling into is just making a quote mean something different by attributing it to someone different

@poodvt reppers rep!
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Oh lovely, I have now also been blocked by the OP. She seems sad. I hope otherwise things are going fairly well for her.
Retweeted @QiaochuYuan
okay but in all seriousness can we collectively give @eigenrobot some kind of medal b/c his geopolitics threads are legiti…
turn down the don't
boss battle music youtube.com/watch?v=MKye0R…
dzogchen as "you dropped your pocket" for enlightenment
trippy article about selection pressures on high-testosterone at various points in human evolutionary history, with some references to chimps and bonobos ift.tt/EQiYXt9
if you meet the Buddha on the road tell him to go fuck himself
@HephaistosF Hephaistos incarnate ⚒️
@AnneSelke It's an issue for AI too, although to some extent if the AI is trained on hours of videos/podcasts with the author it might have some good guesses about how to emphasize many phrases
@itinerantfog At least once per day (usually connected to the experience of the sun or moon, sometimes the horizon)
@xuenay bahahahaha also if you meet the buddha on the road in the form of a coconut water, drink him

@mattgoldenberg hmmmm
what might your future self tell your younger self (ie you)? (not like lottery ticket numbers or which stocks to buy)
@selentelechia hmmm I don't have particular pain or whatever but I tried it and my wrists definitely feel flexier!
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I think I just realized something in meditation I think you can redescribe AT/non-doing as “Don’t Waluigi Yourself” As in:…
@nosilverv baha amazing vibes with my allowing thread
@MJPiercello Hmmm some of the stuff you're saying is universal still seems to me to be culturally contingent, or more technically it's contingent on the cultural platform we broadly share
@MJPiercello Relatedly
@MJPiercello And moreover, depending on how you talk about those possibly-universal elements, you get a very different picture of what sort of thing a human is, which is both part of the conflicts we're having in the first place and relevant to the way out!
Not sure I exactly resonate with this model but it at least puts words at all to something I feel I've been tracking and not writing to put my finger on More models like this!
Retweeted @RomeoStevens76
Virtues can be thought of as persistent clusters in self organization space. So with vices. The problem with vices is t…
@AskYatharth Uncanny Valley of fit-for-you
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Here's a thread outlining the geopolitical situation around the Israel-Gaza war its possibilities, impossibilities, an…
@visakanv LFG!!! loving your reflections so far unsurprisingly, it continues my experience of being stoked to have kids whenever I witness my friends (/ people I resonate with) in relation to theirs
@visakanv huh, looking up "do the needful", getting some different takes etc

@visakanv remixed beautifully in Jason Mraz's song Making It Up which you will appreciate in general and perhaps especially in the context of becoming a dad youtube.com/watch?v=cN9jij…
@visakanv hahaha that does actually, which is delightfully on-topic for this thread
@DRMacIver @AnneSelke terrible it'll get better though, on metrics we can measure which is not necessarily good on ones that are harder to measure
@henhirsch Mmmm, yeah. Precious moments ❤️
if I had to pick which part of the EM spectrum I'd like to be scanned with... twitter.com/poodvt/status/…
@poodvt cool! what do you want to express?
@vagaad @visakanv wow yeah, sounds very intense good luck bootstrapping more slack!
@Juan__Rodelo makes sense! writing with zero follows can be a bit more like public journalling or thinking out loud still sometimes useful! and helps people see that they'd want to follow too but yeah at the start it can make sense to spend a lot of time in people's replies, like this!
@Joshua50054538 ooof, yeah. that's a big one. I've found John Vervaeke's Awakening From the Meaning Crisis series clarifying on this front, although it doesn't actually answer the questions Jonathan Pageau also has good stuff on integrating myth without getting like, mistaken beliefs
@Yay_Special_Kay @tasshinfogleman it's just audio, so you could listen to it while out walking around, or doing laundry or something!
@myceliummage forthright; positive; whereby; enactional; unfolded/untwisted/unkinked (how do I say not-negating without negating? haha)
@Pinuvet what the FUCKCKK!??????? how did this not get obviously eliminated by the Wisconsin supreme court or whatever?
@imhinesmi 😙👌
@visakanv last week I spontaneously decided to publish a dense thing I wrote up last year as a lil ebook largely for people aiming to cultivate trust & collective flow in scenes or spiritual communities, but also totally relevant to families and companies malcolmocean.gumroad.com/l/how-we-get-t…
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I love this bit: when talking about a failed partnership, he says “I take comfort from the fact that he went on to great thin…
@visakanv re "straight face"—does he basically say there that he lied?
nice nits you got there would be a shame if someone were to... pick them
you can copy blueprints from one Factorio game to another but you can't bring any objects, whether iron ore or an advanced circuit feels like this has gotta be a metaphor for something
Retweeted @nickredmark
"Let's reorganize with our attention how the Internet is organized."
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8000 followers AMA
ah man, I resonate with all options here "stunted" doesn't feel quite right I have the sense of there being a bunch of low-hanging fruit that I haven't figured out how to pick ie skills that are just longing to be tapped I'm trying to cultivate the right env/interface for that
@RichDecibels this essay: malcolmocean.com/2022/12/coerci… (which is lightly edited from this thread)
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decisive about how he spends his time & attention, from moment-scale to month-scale more in touch with the divine dance (this vibe, ongoingly: malcolmocean.com/2023/03/art-is…) twitter.com/abhayance/stat…
1. rarely, mostly if I think of a joke or something that if it went viral I'd be unhappy to get the followers that it'd draw 2. there are kinds of honesty I practice in public but saying everything is not one of them twitter.com/HephaistosF/st…
↙️ tools for intentionality: intend.do open on my lower screen & paper nowtender with blue duck (youtu.be/pegzGlSmKJM) ↘️ tools for home improvement: drill, hammer, measuring tape, and magnet for finding studs!

@PhilipDBunn I would seriously subscribe to this, like no joke feel free to tag me in a few months with a bunch of examples
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growing @IntendApp continues to feel most daunting in an "I feel incompetent" sense. one I call "Ophanim" is intimidating in a spiritual sense sometimes: seeing each other seeing god/everything. awayness exists to avoid threats! can't do that w towards twitter.com/vivekt17/statu…
@IntendApp I want to run some events next year to create contexts for people to taste deep collective flow and to investigate the implications of that and the challenges of stabilizing & scaling it
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this morning Tasshin asked me to make an online course called Non-Coercion at Work been thinking about this all day if…
exciting curriculum for Rich's Non-Coercion At Work course concept if you're like "shut up and take my money", go tell him that so he'll make it!
@visakanv @univrsw3th4rt @TylerAlterman ahhh so true the way to do this in the haircut situation maybe is to write on a piece of paper "yeah it also looks like Lord Farquad" and then if anyone says it or otherwise disses it you can pull it out and be like "yeah I know" but otherwise you can just rock it
@visakanv I want to see the thread continued from here in a way that reflects more on the social reality & ignorance I feel like your train of thought sorta veered into maybe-cached stuff about fear of deviance but I wanna hear your takes on "I need you to know that I know"
@visakanv huh, how did you get the gum.co link for Introspect?
Retweeted @Meaningness
🧘 Yowza! @_awbery_'s new book is #1 on Amazon in the Buddhist practices category!

@JakeOrthwein @Meaningness @_awbery_ I'm also very down to be a live recipient of a rant about this stuff!
@_awbery_ oh wow I just flipped my copy open and found the word and it's not even really a technical word (like one that refers to a specific practice or mental phenomenon) ...more of a proper noun really truly impressive lack of jargon!
@FU_joehudson how awesome music feels to listen to and/or dance to it's not that the logical mind can't deconstruct the music into the elements that make it great, but it can't remotely approach doing so in real time
@visakanv huh looks like gum.co/how-we-get-the… redirects to malcolmocean.gumroad.com/l/how-we-get-t… I was hoping for the even-more-type-able gum.co/hwgt but this will do!
@RichDecibels 😁 I have a bunch of weirder more esoteric thoughts too about how all of this relates to The Fall Of Man as well, if you're interested! this is I guess the main thing I've written up about that—feel free to incorporate the honoring-your-id exercise! malcolmocean.com/2023/07/supere…
@RichDecibels (I would appreciate credit if you incorporate the honoring-your-id exercise into your course)
@RichDecibels I'm also very down to alpha-test a draft of the course and point out any places that seem to me to espouse some sort of confusion!
@extrasynaptic @the_wilderless @mage_ofaquarius @aleksil79 in a sense, yeah tho can also be collective gnosis! part of the issue in these scenarios is that someone has a momentary experience of gnosis of something, but as the gnosis fades it turns into faith towards someone else who is still experiencing gnosis!
Retweeted @the_wilderless
If you see someone grieving that the world is set up to make the majority of people exhausted, unhealthy, unfulfilled,…
@aleksil79 some reflections on this over here:
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oh and then Romeo and I had a follow-up convo, elaborating on the ideas a bunch
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@IntendApp probably @aleksil79. I keep getting "this guy gets it" vibes from his replies—thoughtful, clear, expansive
@moonlitstates are you open for the connection that could happen if it went as well as it possibly could?
@strangestloop music new music or familiar music, whatever I'm in the mood for lately getting into this album youtube.com/watch?v=dhoKH8…
@sensefulronin @visakanv ah yeah, probably!
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@IntendApp @aleksil79 I used to think I didn't want more than like 5k followers because of how the vibe changes in the replies with scale, but so far my vibe is fine and if anything even still kinda quiet! so yeah, idk, a slow climb to 13k then 21k maybe🐚
@So8res I think it has to be uzhe in order to ensure the u is long but otherwise that seems pretty good, might manage to catch on
seems like whether this is problematic depends on whether you conceive of the FBI as being loyal to the president or to the constitution and/or american people which the whole time has ofc been a big part of what divides Trump supporters and others twitter.com/RyanAFournier/…
I gather that in 2016 Trump asked Comey, head of the FBI at the time, for loyalty and then fired him when he wouldn't pledge loyalty I wonder if Wray, who replaced him, was abreast of the FBI monitoring Trump? (I have no idea how compartmentalized the FBI is)
feeling humbled by how my follower count slipped down to 7999 then 7998 since I posted this 😅
it's funny, I feel like I don't really totally understand why I have so many followers and/or why people follow me but I don't really feel impostor syndrome about it, I'm like "well, people gonna follow who they follow; I'm hardly convincing people to follow me who shouldn't"
@isaacdablind @owenbroadcast on which note... is it just me or does that wall-stain look like a world map? south america's mostly washed off, but there's alaska, there's africa...
and "so many" is also interesting—I'm friends with (not just mutuals with, though also that) plenty of people who have 10k-20k-30k-50k followers so it feels like a lot to me of some years ago, but also like a moderate & familiar amount—I watched my friends have 8k followers
Retweeted @RichDecibels
tpot navalgazing self-help phase complete initiating tpot mutual aid get shit done phase
one (of many) annoying things about the new twitter text-less link preview is that it sometimes makes me think something is just an image, which means not only do I not click on others' links, but I go to embed an old tweet of mine for the purpose of its image then—OH WAIT.
okay so are me & Vivid Void mutuals or not?

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if your girl - has a name - is legible - can be thought about - can be understood that’s not your girl, that’s your unde…
@nickcammarata @kathryndevaney this thread is relevant to @BerkeleyAlembic's work
Retweeted @nickcammarata
maybe buddha was bad at meditating in the same way newton was bad at physics newton did incredible things for his time,…
this is interesting and raises the question of: to what extent did the people coming after buddha improve on what he did or to what extent did it regress? and insofar as it regressed, was that because: 1. he could DO better than teach 2. people didn't treat it like science
eg I found this at the front of a buddhist book that I otherwise quite respect I'm not sure if they truly meant it (if not, this is bad because bs) but this is a profoundly lossy notion of knowledge/wisdom/teachings
wanting a punchier word for internalized envy and the best I've come up with is "invy" (not quite as bad as memetic vs mimetic—those have the i/e on a schwa syllable, making them indistinguishable!) other ideas for a neologism here? metamoderna.org/another-kind-o…
literally didn't even notice a single "like" despite you framing the video this way (I wasn't attempting to find them, I was just checking out the video, but still)
@m_ashcroft @the_wilderless I'm available to write a userscript to fix this for $5 I've done more complicated stuff already
@nosilverv oooh yeah feels like it makes it more introspective, or like unspoken thoughts whereas punctuation feels more "this person said something to that person" maybe
Retweeted @KanekoaTheGreat
Rep. Mike Johnson says the federal government used Twitter to censor American's speech: "Twitter was basically an FBI…

@sunofdopamine @CurziRose @nosilverv relevant excerpt for ease of reading + as a backup

if I don't do it, I'll be fired! well, I'm free to be fired. if I'm fired, maybe I'll miss paying rent! well, I could do so if I fail to pay rent, I could end up homeless! yep, I could. if I end up homeless, I could starve! well, that is an option. —if I want it.
@slimepriestess ahhhh hmm indeed I'm definitely wary of "infection" metaphors; they tend to involve [[thinking that rejects other thinking]] malcolmocean.com/2021/11/thinki…
@slimepriestess seems I kinda used a "chemical irritant" metaphor in my tweet? not really sure what that implies, but I guess it's like, the foreign substance is in hospitable/dangerous but not actually *hostile*
@slimepriestess I'd be curious for an elaboration on your tweet and how you might rephrase my top tweet in light of it!
@sensefulronin now I'm thinking of baptism hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Retweeted @visakanv
Notice Gallwey’s story about the high-agency business exec who couldn’t seem to control his arm Notice how he learned more i…
whoa, is there a parallel between the recursion that happens when the ego becomes aware of itself, and the recursion that happens when evolution becomes aware of itself? both as an individual experiencer and as a cultural development cc @AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius
(if what I'm saying intrigues you but you feel you're missing key context, this post is the place to start) vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cu…
@visakanv @strangestloop @IvyAstrix @QiaochuYuan @VividVoid_ @RichDecibels
@visakanv @strangestloop @IvyAstrix @QiaochuYuan @VividVoid_ @RichDecibels
@phantom_opus totally. I've found it oscillates a lot for you, to what extent does it depend on: 1. the stuff being traded off 2. who it's with 3. your general mood/resourcedness 4. other factors?
Thread · Two aspects of coercion: material and existential · 17 of 18 tweets
there are two aspects of coercion, let's call 'em material & existential they're not fully separable, but if we tried: 🗡️ material coercion = "do what I want or face a huge punishment. your choice" 😳 existential coercion = "you must do X. anything else is unthinkably bad"
material coercion is external: severe consequences that one agent inflicts or threatens on another, to gain compliance. perhaps it differs from mere incentives in the overwhelmingness of punishment. not a mere penalty but one intended to dwarf any benefit had by disobeying
existential coercion is internal: one's experience of the world becomes warped such that noncompliant options are unthinkable in ongoing situations, generally mediated by shame or guilt 😳, but eg a salesperson can use other kinds of pressure to collapse awareness ⌛️
*pure* material coercion is rare that is, that material coercion is usually also accompanied by some amount of convincing people to not feel free to consider disobeying (ie existential coercion)
why is *pure* material coercion rare? 1. it requires being honest about the fact that you're coercing someone else's will that's just as real as yours, which: a) is hard for non-psychopaths to stomach b) encourages rebellion 2. it's costly & crude! (& requires catching them)
pure material coercion requires a substantial physical power-over relationship (⛓️ imprisonment or 🗡️ violence or 🌽 monopoly on goods/info) otherwise the person will simply gtfo tho there's also eg "withholding sex/affection from monogamous partner"... a kind of monopoly there
ah: and a common phenomenon where the individual coercer doesn't have a monopoly on anything but the person's other options aren't really any better (this shows up with landlords or employers sometimes)
but even here—lots of people are very keen to psy-op this woman into thinking life can't be better than this! to make her think she doesn't have other options. vs "yeah, it sucks, here's how I cope/improved/escaped etc" twitter.com/TTEcclesBrown/…
they're, in essence, instantiating a worldview where wanting better is entitled/naive/etc a crab-bucketing, envious world, where people are controlled by sklavenmoral/invy:
Hanzi Freinacht describes a progression of how societies have controlled people and points out that fear only lets you punish people for what you can catch them doing, whereas guilt & shame control people on much subtler levels metamoderna.org/another-kind-o…
all of these mechanisms, he notes, manipulate the ego and insofar as society is organized via subjugated egos, these are clearly the means by which it's done
however, many of us sense, there's a possibility of organizing humanity in manner that's less egoic and more fluid/nondual—respecting our fundamental freedom to do what we want the basis is win-win opportunities that are obviously mutually attractive once seen
whether or not that's possible, or viable at scale, it's certainly possible to do inner work to shift one's own way of being in a way that accords with your own fundamental freedom
that is, you can develop a kind of willingness to actually entertain what would happen if you didn't comply, which can allow you to be essentially unhookable by others' attempts at existential coercion
now in some cases the answer is going to be really obvious—some consequences are terrible! but you can still experience free choice about the matter

ohh: it's not just negative consequences: if you have shadow desires you haven't integrated, then someone might still be able to existentially coerce you via those (cf @CurziRose's handshake model of reality distortion fields, idk where it's written up)
it seems to me that I am free from existential coercion insofar as I am: 1. willing and able to welcome & weigh everything I want (not wish I wouldn't) 2. considering every consequence a conceivable cost (not a catastrophe)
@the_wilderless strawman of the meaning crisis imo like yes, all of those simple things are issues but that doesn't explain how we got here or our struggles to orient to it together and do something about it
testing whether image alt-text is searchable on twitter

answer: no. a pity.
memex mori
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it seems to me that I am free from existential coercion insofar as I am: 1. willing and able to welcome & weigh everythi…
@TylerAlterman waking up is not the time to check twitter imo need more directed will somewhere else for a few hours before scattering mind into fragments of chaos
@tasshinfogleman re "software subscriptions", I'm happy to gift intend.do to friends on tight budgets who find it helps them stay in touch with what matters! (I've been flirting with the idea of shifting its whole subscription model to pwyw, but that may not happen soon or at all)
@tasshinfogleman put another way: basically anybody who I would even PLAUSIBLY back on patreon (even if I don't actually back them for whatever reason) I would be happy to give them access to my zero-marginal cost software
@the_wilderless @innerpathing @tasshinfogleman I want to get few other feral free agent friends in a similar timezone and have virtual office hours that we expect each other to show up for on time people with broadly resonant missions, mostly coworking + a lil support/cothinking
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@the_wilderless @innerpathing @tasshinfogleman I want to get few other feral free agent friends in a similar timezone an…
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x: what could amplify your impact?
@gpl_writes hm? I don't follow
I wish I could mute phrases in my feed but not in replies like "never algorithmically surface this tweet for me but don't make it invisible if I'm standing right next to it looking for it"
@aleksil79 @AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius yeah, this is a huge part of what I've been staring at with @Morphenius! we're not sure this is right but something about it feels very apt. basically every >3yo in our society has enough recursion to have an "I", but in some cases not much more
@aleksil79 @AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius relatedly,
@aleksil79 @AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius oh @aphercotropist this is relates to our convo about people special-casing themselves, and having a whole bunch of things that are true of "I/me" that aren't true of "people" & vv vs smooth integration of self-as-recursively-specially-indexed-but-also-one-of-many-people
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when i look in the bathroom mirror i can see everything in the bathroom but the mirror but that doesnt mean there's not…
@sympatheticopp wait you mean you noped out of that scene and found a literal midwit catholic nun, or is that a metaphor for how productive the mindfulness was?
@AndrewCutler13 @aleksil79 @Morphenius your desire for meditators to comment on your post reminds me of this thread, which is definitely relevant tho I'm not sure the implications
@AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius evolution can be aware of things in the same way matter can be aware of things: via becoming instantiated in the form of some sort of being that is aware of things, such as a Malcolm Ocean or an Andrew Cutler or a cat or a bat
I am evolution
but for it ("evolution") to become aware of itself, the aware-being has to recognize itself as the evolutionary process, which afaict has been increasingly happening for some beings in various ways over the past couple centuries
@AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius > phenomenology is important, which is only housed in individuals phenomenology seems to me to also be experienced from sub-individual perspectives (split brain patients as a crude example, but also Parts in the Internal Family Systems sense)
@AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius and I've also had some experiences of something like a groupmind or shared consciousness, where a multi-individual unit has some sort of collective subjective sense of things = multi-person phenomenology.
@AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius I agree phenomenology isn't housed in abstractions tho! like "evolution" as a tautology or as a specific theory about genes and species... those cannot be self-aware in the same way
@AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius however! a theory of memes CAN (& ought) be self-aware—not the piece of paper on which the theory is written, but an individual or group experiencing the sense that the theory makes and the fact that their experience of the sense of the theory is a memetic evolution event
Retweeted @Malcolm_Ocean
@AndrewCutler13 @Morphenius however! a theory of memes CAN (& ought) be self-aware—not the piece of paper on which the t…
in other news, it's dawning on me that what I thought were numerous locked-account replies on my tweets may have been tweets mentioning "tpot", a phrase I had muted
(I have grumblingly unmuted it now, but remember: TPOT is not a thing. it's as specific as "me and my friends")
this article is a must-read for anyone who likes thinking about jargon and the importance of having jargon that doesn't APPEAR to be transparent to outsiders if it isn't siderea.dreamwidth.org/1773806.html

> An improper noun is a phrase that has been recruited/appropriated from colloquial language by some technical people to designate a concept or thing important to them, but which is not only inscrutable to outsiders, [...] it's easily mistaken for an ordinary descriptive phrase.

ahhhh this is the sparkly pink purple ball thing all over again, ahaha it's describing it from the other angle malcolmocean.com/2016/02/sparkl…
@hdevalence @default_friend yeah, high suicide rates (not counting shooting sprees etc) don't mean you should be afraid of your life this is related to why calling abortion or animal-killing murder is wrong—if I live in a town with a high murder rate, that implies I'm at risk
@hdevalence @default_friend see "The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world?" lesswrong.com/posts/yCWPkLi8…
@anielsen108 sometimes, nominative determinism maybe someone will sneakily paint the Green building green some night
@meekaale ah yeah arguably at least in some cases you could say that "I" the language model was instantiated by something else and did not choose to be born
(you are too)
@enzikaofash hushed chilled ignored hmm. with proper user-controlled algos etc, this would all be very doable. 🟦☁️😶🌫️🤔
Retweeted @metaLulie
maybe loneliness feels so devastating because cognition is distributed
@the_wilderless realize you literally don't have to do anything realize you can do anything pick zero things or one thing (not more)
@bashu_thanks extra person that adds a spark to your couple dynamic: third rail
@bashu_thanks bribing the sentry with sex: guard rail
Retweeted @colinmegill
Yes it can! Community Notes is based on @UsePolis, open source technology deployed by the policy innovation units of thre…
@ESYudkowsky @dwarkesh_sp wow I thought that Shane read LW back in the day. would have thought he'd at least be able to address the basic points. he looks weirdly shmarmy here 🤔🤔 like something about his grin feels... condescending? wrong mood for this convo, idk.
@twinforces nice, thanks for the thoughts! I'm hoping for more features that encourage deep conversation on here, not just news & parasocial stuff. more algo options would probably help
wow.
one of many reasons why saying the obvious is wise
ahhh very good simple example of fat-tailed distributions! (in running speed) ift.tt/UxSBW7O
hmmm interesting using chatbots to clarify values, find convergence among disparate groups vibes with some @MJPiercello LoRC stuff link in next tweet

sob stuck link: meaningalignment.substack.com/p/the-first-mo…
@TylerAlterman BioEmotive is pretty good. both doing it yourself and facilitating it for friends. learning to read others' emotions in their faces and from their stories (via guessing and having them check/resonate) made me a lot more emotionally attuned
@dvassallo @gumroad some of these interest-free payment systems (idk about this one) are pretty keen to charge you a fuckton of interest if you miss a single payment maybe some make profit just by increasing total # of payments, but not all
pissed I didn't think of this
this article has some stuff that's relevant to @colinmegill's pol.is work (the tech that powers community notes) maybe some possibility for collaboration or mutual inspiration there, idk
@ESYudkowsky this was funny and kind of insightful but also I'm worried about your ability & propensity to describe the Torment Nexus in detail and in public
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@eigenrobot "I've been following the Noble Eightfold Path," Tom said insufferably
@deepfates :|
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After 2yrs investigating the mental health system I think it’s most accurate to view it as a centrally planned economy…
mentioned this podcast in a convo w @JaredJanes today and it occurred to me that it'd also be a good listen for @RichDecibels who is thinking/writing a lot about superorganisms as a metaphor for interpersonal dynamics musingmind.org/podcasts/colle…
sync tank
Feng Shui is the arrangement of physical spaces to shape the flow of attention, intention & energy in ways that support flourishing Digital Feng Shui is the same but for your browser, apps, home screen, etc what are some principles?
@the_wilderless @_brentbaum @innerpathing @tasshinfogleman try making an @IntendApp coworking room! you can still use WhatsApp to ping people to show up, but the room exists ongoingly and is optimized for coworking not getting lost in chatting (no account needed, except to create the room in the first place) intend.do/rooms
@the_wilderless @_brentbaum @innerpathing @tasshinfogleman @IntendApp also I made a guide here based on how one of the other most popular rooms is organized—they use a telegram gc for pinging people to join docs.google.com/document/d/1vc…
@the_wilderless @_brentbaum @innerpathing @tasshinfogleman @IntendApp I'm very very down to add new features that would make things more awesome I was just thinking today that I want to add a gcal integration where if you put an event on your calendar with hours you'll be in the room, it shows that somehow. as a way to ~commit
@aphercotropist Personally I prefer [usually-hidden notification bar] + [sometimes visible notification bar] because otherwise I find myself going and getting distracted into messaging apps when I don't even have new notifications
@myceliummage very relevant article, by @dschorno (which I still need to get around to reading the whole thing of) arcove.substack.com/p/null-call
@myceliummage @dschorno "Advice for the vestigial shamans among us" is the subtitle of the piece

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tpot is fascinating bc so many neurodivergent ppl with lots of trauma used to think this was cringe now think its a vita…
beautiful writeup by @xuenay link: facebook.com/Xuenay/posts/p… oh it exists as a twitter thread too!

@JaredJanes @RichDecibels oh mmm this totally relates to @xuenay's recent piece about divinity & friendship
@RichDecibels @JaredJanes I'm just a liver being a liver 😉
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experts agree that for kids under 12 it's important to have firm boundaries when it comes to language time if your kid is us…
@nickcammarata pretty sure the thing to do with the first arrow is to take it the fuck out of your leg
there's a lot of most important things in the world. you don't have to do this one
@MatanField I'm down to have a recorded video-call about this and global organismicity which is very much part of my envisioning as well: malcolmocean.com/2022/05/100x-v… I'll DM you
@nosilverv idk if it counts as Serious but I had these tweets of yours in my LWCW keynote in Sept (I'm gonna post the video once I edit it)

organizing an event and I'm like "oh wait if that person's coming later... how are they getting from the airport..." and then realizing: "WAIT. that is not my problem. that's what the carpool spreadsheet is for." learning to let go & trust self-organizing systems
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memex mori

> computers were invented initially to show that mathematics is inconsistent and incomplete huh. really? > many traditional philosophical problems were merely misunderstandings of language itself so 👏 true 👏 LLMs may take us all the way thru the confusion & out the other side
@jgreenhall have you heard of Donald Hoffman's Interface Theory of Perception? it points at this in a quite trippy way, I found—neat to hear it applied on the level of measuring instrument paper here, worth a read: sites.socsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/interf…
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McGilchrist on knowledge as trust/love "Relationships are what the universe is made of. And the relata, the things that are…
@jonst0kes intriguing. looking forward to seeing the compelling demo once that's ready!
@the_wilderless @_brentbaum @innerpathing @tasshinfogleman @IntendApp ahh oop that's embarrassing, the day I link to intend.do/rooms is the day that the page has a bug and doesn't load any rooms it's fixed now. still, there aren't that many rooms and there could be tons more!
@adamyormark @dearmodern hahaha yes!! this tweet was inspired by watching dozens of @dearmodern shorts and hearing him talk about energy getting lost or whatever and going hmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤯
idk what the counterfactual is but I definitely got fucked up by something in this space I found I could easily keep my attention on the breath for 30-100 breaths when I sit down (well, in a particular practice involving counting them) but then it frays weirdly.
@reasonisfun I've written a bunch of pieces like this to try to help people see the way out (ie how to have both of these: "Don’t self-coerce. & Don’t be afraid of self-coercing.")
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The big problem with non-self-coercion is: If you take it at face value, and don’t have a practice or guidance, it will 🦆…
watching stuff like this is trippier now that I've started to have a sense for the living qualities of myths
@dumbbitchcap @micsolana saying the obvious: whatever health risks the vaccines have, there's no way they physically* cause major changes of opinions or politics. *(ie due to what's in the vaccine, leaving aside peoples' psychological need for consistency with their choice to get vaccinated, etc)
have you said the obvious yet today?
@alex_with_ease yeah one way I think about Circling is that it's like... taking the mode of interaction as object rather than taking it for granted, which is vital in our current era of so many cultures smashing into each other with different assumptions
@HephaistosF it wasn't explanations that helped, it was dropping into subtle space with my partner and perceiving the powers of these myths, on various scales it's a new sense organ, not a new theory (tho it has theory aspects ofc)
@Evolving_Ego be an amateur-natalist
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It's tough as a Ukrainian to read misleading articles that ignore our voice. Despite two years of war and decades of our fig…
@mimi10v3 afaict they're currently still in a state before any of that was relevant, although RLHF'ing is doing a lot to evoke ego-like behaviors but until there are actual goals, something can't be at odds w itself; token prediction is just larping whatever it says, not enacting
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— you must be ready for the universe to show you that literally everybody else is better / wiser / more enlightened th…
@ciphergolem @deepfates this was dope, I grabbed my bass and improvised to it