my best piece of art from 2020 still rly good ICYMI
February 2022
@odoreida as if words weren't themselves shapes waiting to be rotated rookie level to only be able to arrange words in new orders real pros know how to recombobulate new words altogether
Retweeted @AskYatharth
i believe it is your responsibility in a relationship to have enough friends that when you feel distressed, you don’t have…
@MasterTimBlais @peachblvd my first answer as well memetic evolution outclasses bio where it can, since it's faster and more remxiable I'd recommend David Deutsch's book The Beginning of Infinity for a top-notch take on the implications of memetic evolution on power, reasoning, &+ amazon.com/dp/0143121359/…
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@AskYatharth This highlights for me that I'd been ignoring that 'drawing boundaries' is often just a positive gloss on…
@lhfang neurotically
@laurex sometimes I'm in such a mood that pauses feel spacious but mostly it's more like
which threads of mine would you like to have as a blog post?
(for a pretty exhaustive though now slightly out-of-date index of my threads, check out @ricvolpe's meta-thread from last year)
@IntoTheBlues super legit
Retweeted @blankbreaks
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@IntoTheBlues "follow people whose tweets you want inside you"
Replying to @pareinoia
@pareinoia yuppppp
Replying to @toomuchincosmos
@toomuchincosmos literal yachtwhine
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot idk if a song is the sort of thing that you would want but this song has helped me get in touch with futile rage in similar situations so I want you to have it: youtu.be/YDrzN_ulBa8
@jasoncrawford if you haven't read The Story of a Carbon Atom you're in for a lil treat transitionnetwork.org/sites/www.tran…
Retweeted @RizomaSchool
When you work alongside someone, constantly struggling toward the same ends, you build an emotional attachment deeper and…
Retweeted @visakanv
hotter still: eventually people will realize that you don't even to say "I'm running an organization! I'm running an organiza…
Retweeted @jasonbrennan
it’s weird that you can send someone a file, but not a window (or better still, a collection of windows)
Replying to @jasonbrennan
@jasonbrennan good work busting my assumptions
@turtlekiosk @backus @rsnous huh @rsnous you're gonna be in Vancouver soon? based on these tweets definitely meet up with @mayfer
tell me you're a left hemisphere without telling me you're a left hemisphere twitter.com/SamuelHulick/s…
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
Alexander Technique gives you conscious control of awareness so you can notice, expand and play in the space between stimul…
@toomuchincosmos Oh actually technically no, yachtwhine is like, a complaint about something going wrong *while you're on a yacht*
@ultimape intertwingled
Retweeted @michaelshermer
The claim @joerogan & guests are "intentionally spreading misinformation" is wrong: they don't think what they're sayin…
why don't convo recording apps (zoom or phone apps) have a button that deletes the last 15s/30s/1min of the recording, *while you're recording*? it's so nuts that you're supposed to somehow remember & find & delete a section later zoom doesn't even show a live timestamp smh
Retweeted @m_ashcroft
just made an oblique connection between two concepts and a frisson of pleasure rippled down my spine if your notes don't g…
Replying to @breathofdesire_
@breathofdesire_ friendships are for right hemispheres contracts are for left hemispheres got some modal confusion right here
@breathofdesire_ this thread might be a decent intro to the hemisphere stuff:
Replying to @sheherenow_
@jongold deleting personal/sensitive information I'm fine with silence or poor articulations but sometimes a stray utterance or an accidental open tab on a screenshare makes the entire recording classified until it's removed
Retweeted @gooddogthedog
we don’t think enough about how bizarre the existence of placebo effects is
@rolandharwood @liminal_warmth I've also been reading Scale and it's very very cool points at intrinsic limits that show up due to the network structure of information & resource flows it's not a business book, it's a complexity science book but it lays some really powerful fundamentals for anything else
@jessicamalonso nah the audio spike is the only thing you can easily find later because you can't look over all of video all at once anyway, this approach makes sense for podcasts where you want it to be cleanly edited, but for more casual stuff it would be nice to just rough-cut it with 1click
Replying to @sheherenow_
@jongold that's still the difference between HAVING TO EDIT IT LATER AT ALL vs NOT so now there's new waiting steps in the middle: - whatever it is has to get uploaded to whereever - then you maybe have to wait for it to export after you've removed the clip
fun fact: the Law of the Excluded Middle (for any proposition p, either p is true or not-p is true) only holds when you know exactly what you're talking about which is true in logic & mathematics, and sometimes in other narrow or well-specified domains but not by default!
> If there were a verb meaning 'to believe falsely', it would not have any significant first person, present indicative. — Wittgenstein This is true but it's misleading. Every person contains many first-person perspectives. This statement holds for each. Truths all the way down.
@MSlavin totally agreed
@visakanv loving the handoff-to-future-self energy 💪
Okay time to find more podcasts to go on! 🎙️ Half a dozen under my belt so far 💪 Aiming for another dozen this year 📈 Who would you like to see me talk with?
@QiaochuYuan @visakanv @utotranslucence @interintellect_ yeah I hate any book club with homework but hanging out & reading together sounds great I might prefer reading more silently together than out loud
Retweeted @unoptimalblogs
hey, you know that thing you're thinking about making? i think you should make it
Ohhhhhhhhhhh "Dropbox for Cats" was about jazz musicians TIL
@QiaochuYuan @visakanv @utotranslucence @interintellect_ I'm open to a reading out loud version, although the book is 100k words and reading out loud is ~150 wpm so that's ~10 hours *not* counting any reflection time probably more commitment than I'm up for at this point but if you wanna run it I may show up!
Garage door: up. me & @ungatedcreative talk about Complice's marketing includes a discussion of whether Complice might want to frame itself as something completely different from "productivity app" altogether—"intentionality app"? lmk your thoughts! youtu.be/rgDpTLgYMwg
@uberstuber > I'm forcing myself to write about non-coercion everyday this month.
@uberstuber (my first response was actually more like)
Replying to @forgingtowards
@forgingtowards hmm, say more? I could look it up but I'm curious if you can kinda summarize how it connects
@IntoTheBlues exactly and what I'm saying is that nobody else gets to tell you how much challenge is right for you right now
@DRMacIver @andy_matuschak legit you might also consider putting out that you're open to some unpaid or underpaid help I did this last year and it's resulted in (among other things) this meta-thread:
@mattgoldenberg oh nooooo
@metaLulie humor in general involves getting inside someone's ooda loop well-done puns do this with a different tempo than ordinary humor, where there's sort of a delayed response that means there's no sudden release hence instead of laughter, more of a "you got me"
@m_ashcroft @metaphorician @metaLulie yeah, it's playfully exploring messing around with the structure of other people's thoughts
@orpheaskk @woodenskeleton @mobiusjackson @meditationstuff something like "go up a level to the level that's generating the conflict" and respect that every part of your bodymind is doing something sensible from its own perspective this case study may help: malcolmocean.com/2021/08/intern…
@m_ashcroft @Loster @QiaochuYuan @nickcammarata @drossbucket @metaLulie @goblinodds @mattgoldenberg yup yup, it's public also hosted at intertwingled.blog
Replying to @ElodesM
@ElodesM that's sort of functionally a tarot card at that point
@whennotcycling nice! what's your fav neurosci model/book? my top 3 are - Perceptual Control Theory - McGilchrist's brain hemisphere model - Unlocking the Emotional Brain still trying to figure out how they fit together
@namenotrequired highly recommend McGilchrist's work for science+spirituality/psych:
@MediumMusings Mmm! You could explore putting out something about where in physical space you are, on twitter, to find some resonant folks who are nearby and might want to hang out!
@Mimi_Peacock @visakanv fuck I forgot "trust what you trust" and "distrust what you distrust" there's never a going back to before but there is an integrating the distrust with the trust, developing your self-trust, and becoming ready to explore again
@terranlog @brother_nin yeah. fwiw it hasn't just been in the context of "friends", although a bit of that on zoom I've spent the last 9 years living at one culture incubator then another, and recordings are super valuable technology for iterating on conscious culture
@MowgliPark Yeah, I've been seeing you around & enjoying it! If it appeals, I'd love if you could write up a short thing (even just 1-2 paragraphs) describing how you were scared of twitter but then how your experience here has been different than you feared. Would help us get more ppl 😉
@Trying_Truly @QiaochuYuan Ooh nice. You might dig this talk, which talks about using incentive structures in clever ways to untangle dysfunctional power problems. One of my favs. youtube.com/watch?v=hKvVdG…
@fuzzy_traces welcome!
@shakaz_ Nice! > Bios are weird, man. It's like "hmmm, which particular sequence of squiggly symbols will maximize my likelihood of being perceived favorably." Haha yeah. It helps tremendously that you only need to be perceived favorably by the people you wanna vibe with.
Retweeted @peachblvd
my issue with people offering unwarranted lavish praise or giving unneeded permission for an obvious action is that it presu…
@shahidnowshad Nice. I just scrolled down your page a bit & enjoyed how clear you seem to be about what you want (tribe, particular vibes of relationships). It's good stuff. Finding myself thinking you might be a good prospective founder for some project that needs to happen (idk what yet).
@AnalogWhole @alex_here_now @QiaochuYuan Yeah I deliberately didn't name any particular threshold for what counts. If you feel like I'm addressing you, I am 😀 So yeah, count yourself in! That's part of what's so cool about twitter, is you can speak without knowing who you're speaking to yet.
Replying to @teleosistem
@teleosistem @QiaochuYuan sweet! I'm curious what it was like to... *notice* that there was a sphere here
Replying to @rilopae_
@rilopae_ share a fav poem that connects with any or all of those subjects? 😀
@joelbot3000 hit me up with your best 1-tweet unification of those! (the best part about such a challenge is it's so obviously impossible for it to be an adequate articulation, so we can simply settle for an inadequate one for now! which will still be rich & meaningful, and a building block)
@_stands2reason @QiaochuYuan which bad ideas, specifically?
@SoupOfToday you count!
@somarous hmmm, what feels at that limit for you right now? what's something at the furthest edge of what you can see?
@thnklovebelove @forgingtowards oh nice, excellent I think you've come to the right place 🙃
@kristleifur @spiral_virus Neat! You might like this short video, that talks about how the prefrontal cortex in each hemisphere has a different function that helps us model other people. youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO…
@kristleifur @spiral_virus I'd be curious to get a summary of how that plugs in with shame in particular!
Replying to @DaveCBeck
@DaveCBeck @ungatedcreative yo legit that might be enough impetus to push me over the edge right there ...huh, where are you seeing "productivity app" actually? not sure where that phrasing is being used actively. a few times on the homepage. my bio said "non-coercive do stuff app"; just changed it
"intuitive" & "counterintuitive" are sort of confused "intuitive" mostly means familiar, and sometimes this is good, but ultimately getting somewhere new requires trying something new which may feel counterintuitive, until you get used to it, and then it feels intuitive! 🙃
@ZaymonTheUnwise yup - a related confusion is that UIs should be "intuitive" it's pointing at something, but it's sort of non-obvious how to do it right
@wholebodyprayer oh fuck, the solar system is broken? good to hear you're on it tho!! .....so much to keep track of, whew.
@AidanMcCullen Ah yeah, this is a very foundational tension! One of the best models I've found for thinking about this is actually based on new research on the brain hemispheres, showing a creative tension between the left doing narrow & the right doing big picture:
people still think funner is not a word smh what a sad joke, thinking your language is dead and you can't just use its suffixes & morphemes to construct whatever words will best convey your meanings languages have never *ever* been static, despite some pretenses to the contrary
@terranlog @brother_nin it's quite fluid almost none of them ever get shared outside the group, and we would check in with all implicated folks before doing so there are sometimes wider membranes around a core group that are interested in hearing recordings from the core
@Croninnz list of all episodes so far: malcolmocean.com/podcasts hard to pick a fav but this one is maybe most in the direction I'm wanting to move:
@imperialauditor @metaLulie also this. the best ones are actually also deep tho
@namenotrequired Ways of Attending is super short, only about twice as long as that twitter thread so go straight for TMAHE
Retweeted @forgingtowards
@Malcolm_Ocean as you make logic more Useful (make it assume less about the objects, make it model more of the real w…
@visakanv Jason Mraz 💖
Retweeted @nickcammarata
I’ve found it’s helpful to imagine things from “my demons’” perspective. It’s even less fun to be them than a person wit…
@the_wilderless introduce two people to each other who you think would hit it off
if yall don't yet know about Underwater Temple Underwater Monk it is an amazing multilayer remix the epitome of what is great about the internet and also a bop youtube.com/watch?v=LuI9PD…
@meditationstuff @Morphenius I got some sense you might get something of it this post... I think this connected with what you were saying about eternity etc
@acidshill @mechanical_monk @made_in_cosmos if it's not from italy it's just sparkling authoritarianism
This is how I've been seeing the whole censorship & "misinformation" mess, articulated quite clearly & precisely. Idk if anyone following me thinks differently, but if you do I'd like to invite you to reflect on this. taibbi.substack.com/p/the-folly-of…
Retweeted @TylerAlterman
Was there a time in your life you went from having [very little agency] to [a lot more agency]? What did that feel like?
Retweeted @nibrasibn
I think this is one of the most impactful yet accessible internal changes you can make. Radical, unwavering acceptance. Sc…
hey umm are you from around here, like do you know the area? cool, yeah, so I'm looking for a... field... I'm supposed to meet my friend there he said it was somewhere out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing but I'm totally lost, going in circles do you know the way?
"I was blinded by the lens I should be seeing you through" cool lyric from 2nd last song in this set youtube.com/watch?v=NI8Uu-…
@jambarree @m_ashcroft I'm not sure if they're even attempting to point at the same thing, tbh. like they may not be reconcileable
Retweeted @unoptimalblogs
the most impactful thing i've realized is just how inconsequential most actions are
@StupendousGrav1 yeah, this seems like the right question although in parallel... what does one do when *official guidelines* are endangering the public? 😬 & how do you go about knowing that your model of stuff is good? there's a large messy collective-epistemics question here
@shahidnowshad Oho, hm, maybe let's talk then. I'm regularly coming up with projects I see as needing to happen, on various scales. We might be able to find one that's a good fit for you. (I'm working on developing my capacity to do this)
Replying to @DaveCBeck
@DaveCBeck @ungatedcreative ah true, that's pretty bold 😅 okay, changing the title text to "intentionality app" may take a bit to get around to changing the image as well
Replying to @teleosistem
@teleosistem @QiaochuYuan yeah I never really vibed with the postrat aesthetic went from rationality to metarationality via meaningness.com
I read book so I can think deeper so I can learn more so I can read more book
> Spend a day making elaborate plans and then disregard them completely to make whatever you think is most compelling. There's an app for this 👉 complice.co Encourages big picture thinking but doesn't let you actually force yourself to stick with your plan.
Retweeted @ThatsMauvelous
sense of impending bloom
@PetriAspvik @AndrewYang @Fwd_Party @jim_rutt I'd love to hear @AndrewYang talk with @jim_rutt
Retweeted @vervaeke_john
I would like to request increased care in how we use the words "disinformation" and "misinformation". Both words point…
@BHohner @vervaeke_john @jgreenhall in some cases the thing to point at might be the phenomenon of "this person seems to be parroting positions they don't understand" or of course, again, engage with the actual issue at hand and demonstrate why it is false or misleading: - no source - sus source - cherrypicked +
@doomsdayparent @spiral_virus wow, fyeah this is epic also watched Blasphemy
@doomsdayparent @spiral_virus Don't Look Up isn't Game B because it's simultaneously moralizing and demoralizing—the worst of both it has not a single person with integrated sovereignty who can slow down & strategize about how to approach things everyone is minute-wise month-foolish
@dvassallo That's very much where I started too! My aim in 2013 was that when I graduated university in 2015 I wouldn't have to get a job. It worked, and I haven't looked back. So what I wanted.
@shahidnowshad yeah, always starts with jamming!
@DanielTabakman @jim_rutt haha me & @LordChisholm did the same thing (before seeing yours) although we just started after watching the whole film and it's shorter & mostly focuses on a couple specific critiques youtu.be/GTPStp8Q0gg
In which me & @LordChisholm critique a film you probably haven't seen and which we don't particularly recommend watching. But if you happen to have seen the recent Game~B film and want to know why we think it's confused, here's some thinking-in-public: youtu.be/GTPStp8Q0gg
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 6 of 77 tweets
Thread of the videos in my 100 video project! (I have no particular time target, so there's no way to get behind, but I'm guessing it'll take about a year, ±4mo) (there are older videos on my youtube but I only started counting in January of this year)
vid 1/100 - music cover/jam
vid 2/100 - short presentation NNTD
vid 3/100 - short presentation NNTD
vid 4/100 - conversation non-coercion (/NNTD)
vid 5/100 - conversation PCT & Coherence Therapy
the more I take a descriptivist approach to my own languaging, the more I get curious about the sense underlying any supposed errors eg rn: why "me & Bob are here" (vs "Bob & I") methinks it's an attempt to construct the "me & Bob" entity, which is a sort of object
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 2 of 77 tweets
vid 6/100 - conversation @CompliceGoals & non-coercive marketing
vid 7/100 - conversation/response gamebfilm.org & NNTD
@joelbot3000 oooh, nice!
this is a good thread helpful as part of the broader "make a culture where every interaction is therapeutic" project
@AdamGravois here's one little example:
Retweeted @waitbutwhy
Politics encourages us to see the world as monolithic groups of people in conflict with one another. But empathy comes from…
> It is interesting to see where people insist proximity to a subject makes one informed, and where they insist it makes them biased. It is interesting that they think it’s their call to make. Fascinating perspective: ift.tt/cJa5rimjp
Retweeted @nicktorba
This attitude is why many people struggle with knowing what they want… they won’t try the smallest personal experiments! (Q…
Retweeted @nosilverv
The more I think about it the crazier I find it that all of our models of heroism are reactionary. Heroes are just the Defen…
Retweeted @visakanv
dusting off an old meme format
Retweeted @metaLulie
A ton of misconceptions about anger are down to the failure to recognise: anger isn’t inherently zero-sum
@TylerAlterman being on some sort of campus which, not incidentally, is also a dream of mine in the conscious/intentional sense
I have rotated the shapes (this was with about half an hour of practice spaced out over 1-2h)
Replying to @teleosistem
@teleosistem Feynman did a bunch of self-experimentation with this stuff iirc
MOOD
@visakanv hey @QiaochuYuan it's the writing generalized advice from one example thing again (you have a thread on this, I forget where)
@DanielTabakman where's that? googled it and didn't find anything link me up!
@spiral_virus curious what you noticed from doing so :)
@daemonhugger until knowing of what to do arises
@spiral_virus @made_in_cosmos @visakanv @doomsdayparent I'm curious what people think of this song of mine, in the context of talking about Game B art (this is a demo both recordingwise and in the sense that I have a whole nother section I'm writing) drive.google.com/file/d/1nRDs04…
@aleksil79 you might like John Vervaeke's stuff on Relevance Realization he's got a bunch of youtube vids on it (not sure which is best) or you can read this fascinating paper: contrastiveconvergence.net/~timothylillic…
tagging people who've tweeted excitedly about complice, to see if they'd be interested (don't reply to this tweet; save ppl's mentions 🙏) @captain_mrs @VectorOfBasis @made_in_cosmos @meekaale @abhayance @NathanpmYoung @AskYatharth @roseaboveit @KendraSerra @laurex @Human__Age
@AskYatharth 🤔🤔🤔 A Fire Upon The Deep is the first one that came to mind since it's maybe my all-time fav sci-fi novel that influenced me a bunch and I just saw a paper copy on a bookshelf this weekend very relevant to partswork, meta-team, collective intelligence, etc
@AskYatharth but that didn't have much specifically to do with Yatharth idk, what questions are top of mind for you right now? I can think of a handful but it sort of depends where you're at
under every cynicism is a passion to avoid being duped you might explore... “well, yeah. I really don't want to be duped and I want to feel excited. can I have both of those?”
@hamiltonianurst fun! pulled this one out as a tweet:
Replying to @HiredThought
@HiredThought watching it neat to see someone go so deep on my bio making me realize I didn't actually know who else had used the phrase "meaning economy" broadly seems like the right thing tho
@AskYatharth ooh Flinch by Julien Smith is an old fav of mine that comes to mind a bit here *scrolls thru last 4y of books* ah! The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks both of these are partially about transcending internal blocks, in very different ways latter probably more PCT-compatible
@HiredThought ha, cool! yeah, feels pretty resonant Complice both is and isn't deeply connected with the bigger picture stuff I do, which is neat but it is in general about organizing peoples' intentionality toward their big picture, so yeah!
Ben made me a Wardley map based on my bio! I think it's pretty good—largely centers around @CompliceGoals, but in a sort of implicit way twitter.com/HiredThought/s…
was at an event called Deep Play Immersion this weekend, where we played around & remixed forms related to circling, psychodrama, partswork occurs to me internal trust-dancing would work great w psychodrama
Retweeted @reasonisfun
People think they're being monitored. Can't do anything too weird or the mob will lynch you. But actual coercive mechani…
@reasonisfun @HiFromMichaelV @visakanv curious to hear your take on this thread
@natural_hazard @nosilverv did this post happen? @reasonisfun wrote a related thread a few days later, which might help: ?
damn, this aged well (may have been inspired by then-recent news of a "wuhan coronavirus", but still, the points about overconfidence, fragile networked systems... not obvious to most, at that time)
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa curious if this has started since the book has now launched
neurological proof of horseshoe theory ift.tt/pdqDRgX
Retweeted @metaLulie
Trick for expanding awareness on group zoom: Dance your eyes over the ppl’s background
@metaLulie I also sometimes like pinning each person's video temporarily for a few seconds, so I can see what they look like at full resolution often I get a completely different sense of their faces—brings a sense of depth to the people
@shakaz_ this is the site of the guy who ran the thing he's got a lot of lil improv games & stuff there: finblooming.com
@roseaboveit Legit 🙏 I may reach out in a few months, we'll see. Definitely wouldn't want anyone to do it from a place of "ugh" or whatever
@MasterTimBlais huh, interesting surprised to see Green so high... any thoughts?
Retweeted @alicemazzy
in seriousness, I think there should be a standard item in employment contracts that in the event of some social media blow…
whoa, am developing perfect pitch this song was playing & I was like "I wanna play along" and while my keyboard was booting up I started striking D, then I started humming the note I expected, and I was right! (!!!!) this is 100% thru jamming, no drills music.youtube.com/watch?v=_q_bKV…
@s0ulDirect0r yeah that feels like a really cool edge because ultimately you want to find people who can meet you in deep play at least enough to discern that something isn't a fit
Retweeted @s0ulDirect0r
The other part of this dance is recognizing who could receive this quality of energy. Which is kind of exciting actually.…
2 for 2 hit the F# in this one youtube.com/watch?v=0U2LdX…
🤷♀️ on the next song I hit an F and the song was in Em (I also didn't quite imagine the sound of it first, hmmm)
Thread · Noticing when you're on your own instead of waiting to coordinate
"I need to fill my life with less waiting and more doing my own thing" — a friend of mine I think that's true for almost everybody and is part of the whole "refactoring self-other boundary" process I've been talking about if I'm on my own, I can do whatever I want!
if I'm trying to coordinate with other people, then I can't do whatever I want, I need to find some sort of thing that *we* want together (what Duncan Sabien calls "coferences" in the post below) medium.com/@ThingMaker/ne…
in my experience, I often forget that I'm on my own when I'm on my own I'll have a sort of nebulous sense of wanting to do something with a housemate or partner or whatever, but... not actually be coordinating with them, so there's no way to find satisfying clarity of what to do
@terronk to get people to amplify it by complaining
Thread · Technology that's so smart it's stupid · 3 of 4 tweets
"so smart it's stupid" is becoming an increasingly common feature of technology
the house I just moved into has a fancy-ass HVAC control that fails to achieve the level of performance of a simple boolean control system auto mode keeps heating even when room temp above set temp 🤬
twitter is doing all sorts of bullshit "optimizations" to its timeline algorithm, to the point where "following" someone barely means anything (mostly good for "search from following" or using realtwitter.com)
Retweeted @gptbrooke
I have this rule where if I catch myself refreshing the TL and/or checking for notifications multiple times in a row without…
@visakanv I love that I knew what you meant here before you clarified, without even thinking about it it's like yes, there is real wealth—we know what we're talking about
@visakanv maybe we can headcanon the "pod" as pointing at small, personal since it obviously doesn't directly refer to iPod anymore and since podcasts are in some sense very personal, like they are broadly AVAILABLE but each person chooses their own (unlike broadcast TV)
Retweeted @nosilverv
There's a common Fantasy that envisions a coherent Reasonable Adult world that you are auditioning for and constantly at ris…
it's 2022 and we still can't cover feather pillows with something that keeps the feathers from poking out smh
Thread · Technology that's so smart it's stupid · 1 of 4 tweets
wow, art creates art "an intelligent bot" retweeted my 2nd tweet here
@visakanv definitely. soon. will ping you! probably evening my time, midday yours maybe tomorrow or wednesday
a good minimum standard for DAOs better than a boss & better than a democracy
I had forgotten about this lmfao
@nickcammarata @Aella_Girl depends on what you get from a hookup part of what I've really enjoyed about one-night stands is navigating the whole dance of intimacy from meeting someone to sex and I'd be very surprised if jhanas would substitute for that in particular
@danielifidare @SarahAMcManus you may have comments on this probably pretty different but 🤷♀️
@visakanv hmmmmmmmmmmmk we'll see! (I have a blogpost showtime day after which I'll probably mostly be focused on) I've been anticipating this excitedly since we first mentioned it and I can enjoy anticipating it longer haha
@sokindling yeah, you can always do what you want, there are just different sizes of "you" that need to negotiate clarity of what that is hard to do what you want if you don't know what it is
@MasterTimBlais @rjgoodin ahhh, right hadn't been thinking about the vax thing, mostly thinking about "reopening" type stuff
@thewindupbird4 excellent! so glad to hear I'd love to record a short convo about how it's working for you, if you're open to it (no pressure!)
I think there's a good case to literally build a reply toll into twitter you just can't scroll more than 20 tweets in any sort of newish feed without interacting with some of them or something like that
Replying to @os_viraj
@VirajSinha @nickcammarata @BecomingCritter Oh nice! What did I say about that lol? I forget 😅
@DaystarEld @AskYatharth I haven't has been in my awareness for awhile I'm in general into alien minds etc, but *particularly* into the pack/superorganism concept from AFUtD
@VitalPixel @mollyfmielke oh, @liminal_warmth — Haier is relevant to your investigations re DAOs (I have a thread that riffs on it & wikipedia here)
Retweeted @dvassallo
Lots of money is spent on temporary escapes from undesirable lifestyles. Few realize that making the escape permanent can b…
@metaphorician @RomeoStevens76 - more content for channel9
hmmm, the word "synoptic" is maybe related to this thing I've been talking about as "parallax"
@natural_hazard @nosilverv @reasonisfun oooh, also relevant:
cool relevant thread here about how this drive can block curiosity (this stuff is all super relevant to trust-dancing, in case that's not clear. developing your own self-trust to try again and fail better)
Thread · Rationality only exists within a frame · 1 of 5 tweets
relevant thread about the difference between revealing consensus and finding consensus:
@MJPiercello @visakanv oooh yeah this is cool and up my alley—thanks for the tag! threaded it onto here:
> Persuasion-wise, arguments NOT made from consensus are useless. BOOM.
@the_wilderless ✨ modal confusion ✨
Retweeted @CurziRose
I'm getting fucking sick of the word "trauma", despite or perhaps because it is central to a lot of my models & coaching wor…
@CurziRose I like to talk about "tangles" also "emotional schemas" recently got some respect about a particular boundary for the first time by using the word "trauma" in relationship to it, which was nice but also a shame that I had to do that
Retweeted @VitalikButerin
1. Thinking about this tweet lately. Here we have someone with a "tech people vs word people" dichotomy, but unlike @ba…
@meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple hot take: if you're holding him down but not trying to get him to *behave* in any particular way, it's not coercion (it might still cause tangles, and in the context of adults it's violent because violent escalation is implied, but it's not *coercion*)
@meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple but also treating coercion as a categorical error & violation seems probably not helpful much better to invest that energy in grokking how coercive dynamics operate overall & why they *seem* to work in the short-term but fail in the long-term then can just do your informed best
@meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple the PCT books I keep shilling are one great way of understanding some of the core components of that this hilarious & insightful video is gonna be much more immediately applicable to your situation: alfiekohn.org/unconditional-…
@meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple actually no, in the case of adults, the implied escalation to violence if someone resists does function as coercion more clearly: just shooting someone & taking their money is not coercion, it's murder & theft; "your money or your life" is coercion ("do as I say or else!")
@meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple in any case, most pernicious coercive dynamics function through fear, guilt, shame, etc, so the thing to focus on is probably more welcoming & honoring everything that arises for your kids & creating space for them to want what they want, feels what they feel, know what they know
@astupple it's good stuff—I loved his point that "sustainability" isn't the goal it seems to lack any particular understanding of complex systems, hysteresis, and the possibility of overshoot tho (some critiques in this thread)
@himbodhisattva "good enough" parenting focus on repairing after rupturing there will inevitably be conflict & challenges see how you can reconcile
@this_is_silvia my room is cleaner than it's been in awhile!
knowing how to X & knowing how to X without causing other problems (which might show up slowly & later) are not the same
> "[my surgery clients] know how to sing!" duh, they know how to achieve an experience of singing but they evidently *don't* know how to sing without some sort of unnecessary tension messing up their vocal chords straitstimes.com/lifestyle/ente…
Retweeted @natural_hazard
i'd love to find an animation of two entities chasing each other through a fractal landscape, swerving and juking aroun…
coerce a man, and he behaves for a day teach a man to coerce himself, and he behaves for a lifetime* (*or until he wises up)
Replying to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot @ellegist definitely trainable I can imagine societies that produce no such people and societies that produce entirely such people as for how to train it, I have some thoughts but I'm not sure; and that may depend on whether her personality is more default-doormat or default-overbearing
Replying to @techboiafrica
@techboiafrica woops I forgot
Thread · Why Twitter should support multiple quote tweets · 1 of 6 tweets
I've got an idea for how twitter could enable multiple quote tweets. I'd love to collect more examples of people trying to do this already, whether: - tweets screenshotting tweets - QTs spread across multiple tweets post below ones you've found or made! malcolmocean.com/2021/11/twitte…
@pragueyerrr prepare for tears 🥲😭 youtube.com/watch?v=Sc2BK0…
Thread · Why Twitter should support multiple quote tweets · 4 of 6 tweets
QT this tweet with screenshots of tweets that are similar takes by different people
QT this tweet with screenshots of when you or someone else tweeted basically the same thing months/years apart
QT this tweet with screenshots of tweets of two things you believe that might seem to contradict but somehow you still stand by both of them
QT this tweet with screenshots of 2 of your tweets that represent "how it started — how it's going"
how it started — how it's going
Replying to @os_viraj
@VirajSinha I think the thing to do would be to add a button at the bottom of the tweet-composer next to the GIF-picker & emoji-picker etc, that lets you find tweets to QT, and like photos you could search for up to 4
(these don't have to be *your* tweets—you could go through your recent likes/retweets to see if you find any elements that contrast)
@thang_doer @roving_sign @Anoneconomist1 yeah, face-to-face closure is the aim here. experiencing your bodies in the same space together as not-lovers (or I guess, in some cases, having sex one last time, depending on the nature of the relationship 😅)
@etiennefd I learned a bunch about history & geography from playing Rise of Nations: Thrones & Patriots turns out the Battle of Waterloo is really fucking hard! 😆
@etiennefd I've also learned a bunch from playing Factorio, although I've yet to write up the main really interesting lens there. might be easier to articulate in the context of a short video call
@QiaochuYuan yes, very good point
Thread · Ten years of shifting from a coercive to a collaborative mindset · 3 of 6 tweets
something many people probably don't know is that I've been oriented to "shifting from a coercive mindset to a collaborative one" since 2012 I say this in part because there's a lil cred 😛 but mostly to point at how long the journey can be! this is FAR from an overnight project
I think that the fact that there are now dozens-to-hundreds of us talking about noncoercion here in public is an asset and a liability it was WEIRD in 2012—almost nobody understood. very cool to have it kinda normalized on the flipside though, normalization creates pressure
part of the puzzle with the whole thing is that "don't coerce" is either self-evident & unnecessary, or a paradox/koan either you already aren't coercing 🙃 or you are, and the only way to follow the instruction is to try to coerce yourself into not coercing, which won't work 🤦♀️
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa 💪❤️🔥💸
you can have narrowsightedness within a plan or you can have narrowsightedness because you didn't plan at all (intentional planning can bust assumptions)
Retweeted @Beehtrix
Allow me to understand what I'm about to say...
Retweeted @KasraKaley
there's a kid in pre-school who was asked who he wants to be when he grows up, he said a pizzaman. when asked why, he said…
in some sense, you can't not have a plan you always have at least some sort of implicit assumptions of what you're trying to do the least introspective & intentional student still is operating as though they're going to finish their degree
@multisighuman huh, yeah I guess you could do that as an extension cud b gud would be different than a site where it was actually required for everybody tho
@adwaits16 it may be so! but… you need to say stuff in order to get a working feedback loop to find out what of what you have to say is appreciated also don't underestimate the extent to which what is boringly obvious to you might be a novel perspective for others
Replying to @jstanotherview
@jstanotherview mmmmmmmmmm nice
an open challenge for ppl who are lurking and curious-but-nervous to engage more decide to remove the entire decision of whether to engage—just engage with everything for 1d-1w (you don't have to accept the challenge, but if it feels like a good challenge for you, reply below!) twitter.com/nat_sharpe_/st…
Replying to @os_viraj
@VirajSinha @BecomingCritter @nickcammarata ahh classic yeah
@reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple I agree it thwarts his ability to act (and that it may be in some sense bad) but it doesn't force any particular *behavior* in the sense of intentional action gravity constrains what I can do but it does not force me to *behave* in a particular way likewise skill limitations
@meaningfulideas > There is also no consequence for not sticking to the plan other than recognizing that the plan might not work for everyone and we revisit. Nice! Not sticking to the plan has its own consequences.
this is such a great lil parable could do at least 3 different sermons on it
Retweeted @TheZvi
This seems right to me. There's nothing wrong with verbal intelligence but somehow no one thinks they're the wordcel.
@PatrickDFarley even this—remarkably different from a ♥ prompted me to go check out your profile, and some great stuff there (simulacra, aurelius, vr soldier, &+) so I followed looking forward to getting to know you before you get too smart to say stuff!
@meaningfulideas Also reminds me of this
@uthmanzi @nosilverv my long take is something like "check out The Master and his Emissary" by Iain McGilchrist
@visakanv ayy lmao
@visakanv you are what you'll grow into you're not what you were 🎶 youtube.com/watch?v=nY7GnA…
@natural_hazard @nosilverv @reasonisfun yeah it totally connects with what I've written about re non-naive trust, self-trust, etc malcolmocean.com/2021/09/non-na…
#RelationshipGoals 😍😘 @SarahAMcManus
@Jeanvaljean689 @daemonhugger thanks tho I also liked someone else's "making friends at scale"
@VibeyOctopus yeah, part of the challenge is not feeling alone having someone external to talk to can help with that but you can also cultivate connectedness internally
@russlramos yesssssssss do it :D
@jamalcassim yup very much so. I wrote about the difference between "choose your own adventure" lifestyles and "actually self-authoring" lifestyles here 👇 ...might be of interest! malcolmocean.com/2014/05/self-a…
I recorded a convo with @shahidnowshad where we explored a bunch of angles on my current pinned tweet (QT'd below) our convo includes a discussion of why the underpants gnome plan is actually kinda better than no plan! youtu.be/zxVkuYd5BRE
here's the tweet that kicked off the conversation
one thing I tweeted during our convo:
another:
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 8/100 - conversation "plans are useless; planning is vital"
Thread · Ten years of shifting from a coercive to a collaborative mindset · 2 of 6 tweets
for the record, my suggestion instead is to focus on: - doing what you feel like (when that is clear) - understanding the nature of feedback loops such that it becomes more & more obvious what coercion is, why it creates tangles, and how to do something different
for understanding, Perceptual Control Theory (PCT) is a very powerful foundational model of intrinsic towardsness-based motivation this book in particular is a great intro:
@MowgliPark hmmm maybe! something about removing/integrating obstacles as distinct from nurturing intrinsic motivation
Retweeted @visakanv
💡!!! this is why it’s so hard to answer, or to help people answer, the question of “how do I figure out what I want”!!! bec…
a philosophy is only viable to the extent that it is actually enactable by its proponents philosophy is embodied something something proof by construction
@mikawl_lim muahaha would you be down to record a short convo talking about why you keep coming back to complice? I want to share more user stories with the world
@HiNaryan mmm! totally and I've got so much stuff I'm excited to write up and record videos & podcasts about, to try to point at it ever more clearly (I'd be down to record a convo with you sometime about whatever's most alive/juicy for us around it all!)
@EashanKotha whereever you're looking! up to you could also use a search, or go to someone's profile
@EashanKotha (although with someone's profile, don't do like 100 probably, & make sure to pick someone who wouldn't find it weird to get 5-10 replies)
Retweeted @heatherwattsart
The idea in Eastern traditions that enlightenment occurs after many lifetimes is from many lifetimes ago.
@heatherwattsart summary of "what is liminology?" for those of us who didn't make the clubhouse? "study of liminality", probably, but curious if there's more to say about it!
@heatherwattsart Excellent! I just checked out your profile and I like what you're putting out 😀
@sashintweets @dela3499 @xuenay @m_ashcroft haha yeah I think I was feeling into similar completions at the time maybe "except after dream" if you wanted to keep a dream journal on your phone 😆 (but probably better would be a paper dream journal if you seriously wanted both habits)
@daemonhugger @Jeanvaljean689 @visakanv ah yeah no it might be that thing you said!
@RichDecibels dude your new pfp is ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 (saw a diff tweet of yours and came on your profile page to comment this) so yes: AMEN.
Retweeted @nosilverv
Fucked up that instead of growing up we larp being grown up via top-down self behavioral imposition and then before growing…
@RichDecibels yup which is much easier to see once you realize this:
I guess this is somewhat of an overstatement one of the main issues with proposed solutions is not per se that they'd make things directly worse (although that is a thing!) but that they'd cause problems for someone else who would then set about to reversing the "solution"
@palmerish @alterwyx classic! yes! one half-witty reply now actually is better than a dozen witty replies never
I realized today that in trying to avoid overt aggressive salesy marketing I have fallen into a different kind of fakeness, which is pretending that I *don't* want people to buy my product. = the marketing equivalent of the Nice Guy™ who pretends he's happy being just friends
Thread · Untangling aversion to marketing and two kinds of fakeness
further progress on this emotional coherence work today, trying to untangle my concepts of what "marketing" is/means I'm enjoying tweeting about my process here in public so I'm going to do that here too! some cool insights + a new model of "fake" in this thread
at some point last week, maybe while writing this thread 👇 I noticed some aversion to some sort of marketingy activity and got a lot of delight from just revisiting my index card and going "wait, why am I marketing? I don't want to" and welcoming that
as I felt into that in today's Coherence Coaching session w @AskYatharth, I noticed a feeling of relief associated with consciously not marketing I think it was partially intrinsic to honoring my resistance, & also partially about these other schemas:
then I noticed something like "if I do marketing, people will SEE ME as fake, they'll judge me, they won't trust my motives" which is a judgment I've definitely had about people! (though not always—some marketing feels good. so that's interesting!)
I realized there are two kinds of fakeness when it comes to marketing: overt aggressive salesy marketing nervous-hiding-creepy marketing
I'm not worried about doing the overt aggressive salesy marketing. I know I hate those godawful landing pages that try to frame it as if only an idiot or person who hated themselves wouldn't immediately buy the product. I'm not gonna do that.
But, maybe because I wasn't always so confident I wouldn't do that, I've learned an opposite pattern! (which is also fake!)
and so there's a sense of like, huh, if I'm being deceptive in some way, then it would make sense for people not to trust me!
and I'm noting by contrast that when I've seen people be more open about trying to succeed in business, they often get a lot of support from friends & fellow travellers
oh wait no not that tweet, this thread (forgot I'd changed my pinned tweet and just copied it quickly — especially since they both have 1RT, 1QT, 4 likes)
tagging @ungatedcreative @daemonhugger @visakanv to check out my further explorations re marketing & my own psychology if they're curious
@UntilTrees @fvathynevgl @m_ashcroft "didn't last" this is again something where it doesn't have to be all or nothing you could try using it again for a day or two, then not and just play around with it (happy to extend your trial for you to explore this approach!)
@commandodev @michael_nielsen it's a webapp I built to help people be more intentional it's kinda like what a to-do list app would be if it actually guided you through OODA loops on multiple scales
have now updated the complice.co homepage so that it includes this teaser about how we have a different philosophy of what doing things is all about (based on a convo with @ungatedcreative, which is linked below and you can watch it!)
@meekaale I've thought of Complice for e-ink! unfortunately would be hard to do the colors ofc but I love the idea of having an e-ink display that always shows my next action
Retweeted @grin_io
@gptbrooke @Malcolm_Ocean im convinced Complice is just The Master and His Emissary in app from right brain…
Retweeted @gracemercur
christian music/media seems to be one of the few genres that express euphoria/joy that is not predicated on romance. what…
Retweeted @captain_mrs
Feeling much more comfortable with examining how I'm working towards my goals after I realised that I *don't have to name…
just got really helpful customer support from a guy who it totally wasn't his job to solve my problem (he runs an auto insurance co & I called asking where to change my driver's license address) took him all of 2 minutes but definitely gave me a favorable impression of his biz
@davidfactorial @CompliceGoals
@davidfactorial @CompliceGoals I mean Complice does manage tasks, just not ones that you're not doing today. And then projects can be put in under priorities.
(this is gone now but it was something like "billion-dollar startup idea: app that lets you copy text from a PDF and have the line breaks be handled properly")
@wholebodyprayer @gracemercur one of my favs to do this with:
wow, phenomenal to discover that one of my all-time favorite albums—whose lyrical depths I'm still appreciating ever more deeply a decade later—got pretty critical reviews ....... ....fuck critics.
@wholebodyprayer @gracemercur Jason Mraz has some other songs that have a pretty euphoric/joyous energy; that whole album has a bunch of it here's one example, but see also: The Freedom Song Living in the Moment The World as I See It youtube.com/watch?v=wYBCiN…
songs/hymns I want less-Christian versions of (that still express the same energy underlying sentiment) - How Great Thou Art - How Can I Keep From Singing? - Just A Closer Walk With Thee - Here I Am Lord - Lord of the Dance mostly to sing w atheist friends, I guess
oh wow, Lord of The Dance copies a melody from some very dancy christians (the shakers) and was inspired in part by a statue of Shiva dancing! > I did not think the churches would like it at all. I thought many people would find it pretty far flown" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_t…
also here's one of my favorite versions of How Great Thou Art (this hymn is already mostly about experiencing wonder towards the natural world) youtube.com/watch?v=0HJYZj…
@UntilTrees @fvathynevgl @m_ashcroft mmmm cool! excited to find out what you come up with :D
@MSlavin Love Is A Four-Letter Word by Jason Mraz
@lilaexpt I mean it was a very *popular* album as well, like a chart-topper I have fond memories of listening to it summer 2012 as I walked 20 minutes from my home to campus where I was doing an internship
Thread · An app for having conversations with your parts
There's huge room out there for developing an app for readily having conversations with yourself. Lots of people have tried hacking systems together with pen & paper or elsewhere. Sometimes I just do a doc/email with normal text + italics... #ThingsIWantToExist t.co/DyS43weh7T
but it would be cool to have a system for really quickly switching between voices using hotkeys or something, and having them colorize differently could build this from a chat app demo in like 1h
that would also allow searching based on which part of you sent the message, or filtering to see only messages from a certain part or only conversations between two parts
what else would I like to see here? I mean the main puzzle is how to get to a good-enough MVP that a bunch of people use it and you can see what's missing. and I literally think you could do that in a day or so
ah yeah! @snarayan built @antar_app for this, which got decent uptake (>10k downloads on android) I downloaded it a long time ago but I've kind of forgotten about it for some reason. I prefer to chat on my computer (or at least with a keyboard) I'll pin it to my homescreen now!
ooh! what if it had an extra button to pull in a random response from <something>? could be... - GPT-3 Alan Watts - an actual Alan Watts quote - prompts from therapists etc - your own previous messages/notes that are relevant somehow - ELIZA rogerian psychotherapist ai from 1966
such prompts could be good for getting unstuck or just increasing the sense of engagement like sometimes you bounce away from a chat but you come back when the person replies. this could do that if you leave for a minute without ending the session! I think that'd be v powerful
would also be good, from a coherence perspective, to be able to pin certain messages as items that you want to review can help integration to regularly look at previously-unconscious things you've uncovered
what else would be cool to have in an app like this? & go check out antar.chat & let @snarayan what you think!
Thread · Things I want to exist: apps, tools, and funding mechanisms · 1 of 21 tweets
this has been on my radar for awhile; finally wrote up a thread about it
@BroductManager but like actually straightforward boringly literally
@m_ashcroft put another way
@SeishinWrites @snarayan oooh interesting! hadn't seen it. but again, I want something I can use on my computer!
@sashintweets @m_ashcroft ooh yeah, this is good. some good principles here
@sashintweets @xuenay @m_ashcroft that was the idea, yeah!
@bentarzynski looks like it's actually just one shill over and over
some american lawmakers who don't understand incentives or respect rights have come up with a new surveillance bill the EFF has called it "a direct threat to constitutional protections for free speech and expression" poke the congressppl if u r american: eff.org/deeplinks/2022…
Replying to @s_r_constantin
@s_r_constantin @RichDecibels "moral superiority" is different from a kind of relaxed confidence that your understanding is right/better and that everyone else would agree if they thought about it long enough (eg how I feel when someone disagrees with my arithmetic and I've triplechecked it)
@reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple > you hold him down if he starts screaming and let him go if he stops yeah see this *is* coercion—attempting to control someone else's *behavior* overpowering force is a different thing than coercion, in the way that I'm using the word "coercion". that's all I'm saying.
@reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple you clearly have a different definition of "coercion", and that's fine (link me to one if you have it somewhere!) I'm not particularly interested in semantic arguments although I do think precision is important and I haven't seen other people try to articulate it precisely
@reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple I think the place where we're talking past each other is the word "behavior" I mean some sort of action *performed* by an agent, that is intentional in the sense of aimed towards achieving something (though not necessarily conscious) blocking such is different from compelling
@reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple having said that: I'm clearly in the minority here though since your tweets are getting lots of likes (probably from the many ppl in this chain) & mine few/none 😅 so I will take a step back & reconsider 🙇♀️
Retweeted @heatherwattsart
If you’re feeling superior about being unvaxxed consider you likely understand almost none of the countless/complex ef…
@reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple it's clear that at the very least I need a better way of pointing at the thing I'm trying to say it might also involve having a different word than "coercion" although I feel like that's sort of the natural word for what feels to me like a natural category
Thread · Defining coercion via Perceptual Control Theory, and the parenting edge case · 3 of 5 tweets
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple it's based on Perceptual Control Theory: "behavior is the control of perception" as one of the book titles puts it coercion is an attempt to control someone *else's* behavior by holding one of their perceptions hostage to get them to *do* or *not do* something
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple this situation that shows up with infants & young children, where you could use overwhelming force without hurting them or needing a threat of further violence (ie any behavior they might attempt to make is totally welcome) is an edge case that's ~impossible among adult humans
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple I'm not saying it wouldn't potentially also cause tangles for the kid but if I had to pick a parent from: A holds me down to change my diaper but is totally welcoming of all of my feelings & behaviors B tries to get me to do things via causing problems if I don't …A every time
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple I think so? again, it stems from the word "do", which in my frame isn't about the position of someone's limbs but about the actuation of their muscles they can actuate their muscles however they want, that's totally fine
Thread · Defining coercion via Perceptual Control Theory, and the parenting edge case · 2 of 5 tweets
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple I also want to acknowledge that I'm not a parent or kid-carer and so I am in some sense profoundly unqualified to have this conversation 😂 ...which doesn't mean I shouldn't try to have it! but it seems important to express a lot of humility here
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple also also the reason I'm kinda argumentative here is because I don't feel like my point has been understood, not because I'm certain it's right I'm trying to point at a precise *something* and I feel like other people haven't seen it (even if they would disagree about it)
@jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple sort of, although I've also watched it be healing for people to push against someone and have them push back although I guess that's partially because the aim is to experience pushing
@meekaale @jambarree @reasonisfun @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple right, and then a toddler might "want to never be changed" without knowing that in some sense this is an impossible want (like @selentelechia writes below) and in this sense holding them down gently is maybe just reality explaining itself through you 🤷♀️ twitter.com/selentelechia/…
@meekaale @jambarree @reasonisfun @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple @selentelechia when they're older, you can maybe actually explain these sorts of things and they can make their own decisions around it I do not remotely profess to claim what the right age (/stage) is. obviously can't explain something verbally to newborn, but it ongoingly becomes possible
@meekaale @jambarree @reasonisfun @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple except, no, you can hold use overwhelming force but ALSO not welcome them. whether consciously ("crying is bad") or unconsciously (<aaah if my baby is crying I'm bad>) many parents are acting to try to control their babies' behavior, which is the thing I'm calling coercion
@teleoflexuous oho, interesting!
@lisatomic5 @jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple hm, different than I'm using the term "coercion" (only for "3") although 1 & 2 can be used as the threat of 3 (eg threat of imprisonment) and yeah, reward is just the temporary relief of punishment!
@lisatomic5 @jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple ooh yeah, that's an interesting case study... it changes the incentive landscape... but theoretically could leave them sort of free to do whatever they want within that landscape but ultimately it is a "create extra problems" approach
@lisatomic5 @jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple something is generating the urge to bite in the first place tho, whether a mineral deficiency or nervousness or whatever you'd be much better off focusing on finding a better solution to whatever problem nail-biting is currently a solution to, than preventing that solution
@neuroblossom that's what I did as I transitioned towards secularism but wanted to still enjoy singing at church but I think it's a lot harder for people who didn't grow up going to church in the first place with whom I would like to sing these songs
based on my experiences with coherence therapy & coherence coaching, & related stuff, the reasons we can't explain our own behavior is that we don't know how to introspect properly (& doing so requires an environment in which the true reasons are safe to discover—not always so!)
@Aella_Girl @Arcadia845 yeah, there are decision-making challenges encountered regarding if you're trying to figure out eg where to live, which can produce more conflicts the more people are trying to coordinate, but a mono couple could happen to have more incompatible constraints than 4 poly ppl
@Aella_Girl @Arcadia845 because eg both partners want to live near their parents and their parents live in different cities or the partners want jobs that are in different cities or they have different climate preferences or urban-rural preferences etc
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Malcolm's statement means a lot. His feedback, about an year ago, was really critical for us. had a big impact on our desig…
@snarayan I love to do this sort of thing! it all started with you saying you wanted my eyes on the idea:
in my model of coercion, I think... it's possible for: - A to do something that isn't internally coercive but B experiences as coercive - A to attempt to coerce B but B doesn't feel coerced - either of those to be perceived as the opposite of what they in fact are, by an onlooker
@mormo_music @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @jambarree @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas @astupple I think with adults it sort of implicitly functions at least slightly as coercion because you'd have a reasonable prior that you'd be hurt if you tried to struggle or something like that coercion is partially in the eye of the beholder
Thread · Ten years of shifting from a coercive to a collaborative mindset · 1 of 6 tweets
also I mostly haven't been thinking in terms of coercion but about trying to aim for a mindset/culture of "collaboration", fwiw, with a pretty clear sense of what that looks/feels like it was contrasted with coercive mindset/culture but we weren't thinking of it as "noncoercion"
@visakanv hmmm thinking about how when I asked myself how I wanted people to feel when they use Complice, these 3 lil phrases came to mind:
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80% of the pages in my @Roamresearch graphs are blank except for at most a few lines or curated refs. 85% or more writing 5 or…
How would you describe you religious or spiritual belief system? ⭕️ atheist ⭕️ agnostic ⭕️ religious ⭕️ spiritual 🔴 [____ all of the above ___]
@m_ashcroft @mattgoldenberg @tpotvibecamp fuckyeah I might've put the "VIBE CAMP" down in the trees tho, for a couple reasons
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Trust @tpotvibecamp to have a sweet t-shirt design I would actually wear.
@metaphorician makes me think of this book:
@actualhog I've recorded the first one of these today! I'm gonna get a few more though since this person's story is a bit noncentral and it helps to have other perspectives
cancelling, canceling ffs
interesting cc @visakanv, re creativity and the possibility of game-change
a key point:
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Big emotions can feel overwhelming - like being stuck in a closet with an angry elephant! Expanded awareness doesn't me…
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Ergodicity in half a page
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It is enormously in the best interest of young people to take relationships and marriage much more seriously, much sooner.
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Thread on deep & subtle differences between Coherence Therapy stance & the counteractive stance (CBT, "maladaptive" beli…
@this_is_silvia I feel a sense of clarity about my life's work, at least for the next decade but in a sense the whole thing
great thread talking about how "adaptive" & "maladaptive" depend on the frame you use and highlighting key points of the Emotional Coherence Framework
@AskYatharth huh I was reading Four Thousand Weeks just this evening! it's a decent book. feels weirdly simple sometimes for how deep the subject matter is, but it does have lots of good bits. maybe aimed to be really accessible? amazon.com/Four-Thousand-…
@AskYatharth @Morphenius was saying to me recently that he's been working on integrating a sense that *either* he will die in some fairly finite amount of time, OR that he will face vast eternities of existence (if life extension takes off, say) most people haven't really faced either
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@selentelechia @eigenrobot I don't disagree with the OP but it's also not at all obvious to me (from that thread or their other tweets) that the OP thinks noncoercion is possible or desirable, which to me makes a critique a bit sus because it will tend to make it sort of a veiled attack
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@selentelechia @eigenrobot but yeah there's something here this tweet by @QiaochuYuan comes to mind:
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@selentelechia @eigenrobot this piece of writing relevant here write.as/harold-lee/ser…
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it seems like it’d be easy to subject this to a double-blind RCT (some boxes have good filters, others don’t) and compar…
@astupple @EvadeHullu @jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas "answers vary, but they're all wrong" is kind of an impressively textbook example of this 👇😬
@astupple @jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas welcoming of feelings = things like emotional mirroring & resonating 💞 many parents, by being uncomfortable with some of their own emotions, unconsciously react in ways that cause kids to suppress theirs (I can't find the citation—I think it's from/via Sarah Peyton)
@teleoflexuous huh, neat! feels too slow/waity to me, kinda, and not enough keyboard shortcuts but maybe could be cool! would be very neat to have that automated inside a customer support app like intercom or tawk.to
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@eigenrobot great essay on exactly this write.as/harold-lee/ser…
@astupple @jambarree @reasonisfun @meekaale @metaLulie @xuenay @m_ashcroft @ryansarahk @meaningfulideas obviously emotional mirroring & resonating isn't enough, you also need to actually be able to find pragmatic solutions (ideally win-wins) to whatever conflicts have arisen but in the meantime, it makes a huge difference whether you can remain expansive & meta-okay with someone
Thread · Resolving contradictory perspectives with higher-dimensional thinking · 1 of 8 tweets
the link apparently changed so here's where to read it now: civilizationemerging.com/higher-dimensi…
one of my favorite articles about parallax if you think two people disagreeing means one must be wrong, I highly encourage you to check this out: civilizationemerging.com/higher-dimensi…
Thread · How a leader's blindspots become the group's blindspots · 6 of 8 tweets
to the extent you have social power, your inner Tyler Durden shares that power that is to say, your unconscious aims will naturally use your social power to achieve their various ends
mental blindspots, by their nature, purposefully hide themselves from your view, & they like to hide themselves from others' views as well thus, by Tyler Durden power, the leader's blindspots become the group's blindspots even if consciously the leader doesn't want this!
this is kind of what the Guru Papers is about—how even very well-intentioned leaders end up finding attractors towards having their blindspots magnified
I don't have a clear solution to this! I remember realizing unnervingly that this collective blindspot phenomenon that has frustrated me multiple times would, by default, happen to anything I might lead as well.
I do have some parts of an approach though, some of which are contained in this thread (and in general my entire NNTD framework is about this puzzle)
oh and I suppose this happens with families, too! (obvious once I considered it) parents' blindspots become the children's, and so on (tho only sometimes; sometimes it oscillates by generation)
@TheInnoShow @AidanMcCullen Nice, you're already on it! That's a great connection. I've been trying to figure out what implications McGilchrist's work has for teamwork. It does seem that in general some roles are more like the RH's role (big picture etc) but also everyone still needs both hems engaged.
@TheInnoShow @AidanMcCullen Btw, if you want to do a @TheInnoShow episode on these sorts of topics and/or how I think about business & product design in a sort of right hemispherey way (including what I call "metaphor design") I'd love to talk!
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Nice commentary by @interfluidity. The “coordination failure” frame is played out. An alternate view is that we are bad at s…
something juicy to this a few key pieces missing something about what happens when people have been betrayed and can't trust they won't be betrayed again by similar people/situations and we all have been betrayed a lot in very tiny ways
"I take one of the meanings of 'meaning' as 'that which makes truth possible'." — @vervaeke_john (about 1h15) ift.tt/1eM4cPp
@ARColeburn @sashachapin I mean I think all it takes is someone (or their friend) having a bad experience with a therapist for them to be like "this is stupid and a waste of time/money" and that's honestly not crazy (in some cases therapy *is* a waste of time & money).
so many high-paid engineers and YouTube(Music) can't even fucking figure out how to make the music autoplay not increase in hypeness when it's getting towards bedtime. tech from 2011 could do this easily. @psobot does spotify have this? maybe time to switch... 😒
@meekaale this is tickling me with resonance with a few media I've been taking in lately... both Four Thousand Weeks and John Vervaeke talking on the Jim Rutt show about the relationship between sacredness and relevance realization
complice.co already has way more of "look back on my work and see that it is good" than most self-project-management apps, in the form of the reflections (daily/weekly/monthly/etc) but maybe could do more to encourage an actual rest day weekly or something 🤔💭
I want to make a meta-thread for PCT threads like I did for McGilchrist, but I'm not sure what gif to use for the first tweet — this matters for memorability so: post gifs below that evoke the essence of Perceptual Control Theory (plus what search query etc you used to find it)
stray thought: in principle, there's no difference between self-organized and self-organizing because for something to be thoroughly self-organized means it's in an ongoing process of self-organization
idea: construal game 2nd order constructs in coherence therapy are "the construed meaning of the situation" I think it would be fun to practice naming "oh, this is the generalization I seem to be applying to this scene" eg "okay so you're saying we can never have any fun"
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Who said that you cannot print GIFs?
this is a fascinating perspective this person legit seems to think that an artist would prefer N likes/comments/retweets of their own tweet, over 100N likes/comments/retweets of a tweet that links back to them as if "likes" have some intrinsic value that was stolen 🧐🤨🤔
maybe the person hangs out on reddit a bunch and feels like the karma was stolen (reddit basically adds up how many likes you've gotten ever) which is... kinda legit, *if you're on reddit*
people don't understand the nature of the medium: the fact that he posted it afresh with the simple short caption "Who says that you cannot print GIFs?" was a key part of what made it go viral there simply *was no way to do that* as a RT or QT of the original artist
for the record, I agree it's a jerk move on the part of the guy who reposted this to do a "shameless plug" of his own newsletter in the reply of his now-viral tweet, but not link through to the original the video has a url in it but having it be clickable makes a huge diff
(in case it gets deleted, the original text was) If as you say a retweet is worth less to the algorithm, then who got the vast majority of the benefit. Not the creator. Who got most of the likes, the comments, the retweets. Not the creator who should have.
new EA cause area just dropped
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@thisisntsilvia Talking online is talking physically. Physics is very much involved in these bytes going from my phone to a tower to a server to your device so you can read them right now.
@prerationalist oooh that's good
@m_ashcroft she's clearly controlling for looking like a badass
@DRMacIver I have the recourse of ranting until someone decides to build the-thing-but-good-tho. I seriously think some of our crew could get together and build something like this and it would be competitive. I'd be happy to help/advise.
@alltom I think it would be good to have a lil gif demo too
@DRMacIver yeah. I am trying to meme them into caring ...by insinuating they are dumb by not figuring it out I guess. idk if this will work! ideally it would produce a "challenge accepted" but who knows. (the hard part is even just getting anyone's attention ofc)
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@EvadeHullu I was originally thinking maybe less so an image of someone controlling a perception and more like a giffy version of this 😅
@EvadeHullu another option, actually, would be to get a gif of one of Rick Marken's demos... not sure which one would be best though mindreadings.com/demos.htm
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@embryosophy @evelynharlow_ ill fite u
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@BenRatkey I'm sad bell-bottoms are so hard to find these days
interesting bits of history of re unfiltered shows (can someone ELI5 "inverted yield curve"?) the-blindspot.com/why-rogan-is-t…
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Vervaeke: "for medicine, we have a concept of health. we don't have that for well-being & meaning in life" me: zealth.
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was rereading the little prince last night and i forgot how good this part was at explaining NFTs
this article is quite good in its deconstruction & leaves much to be desired in terms of its reconstruction. it comes very close to appreciating a cybernetic (/PCT) and evolutionary (/Relevance Realization) way of looking at it, but settles for "reward" aeon.co/amp/essays/you…
> The Information Processing metaphor has had a half-century run, producing few, if any, insights along the way. The time has come to hit the DELETE key. This is funny but also sad. In a closing sentence that has the opportunity to point at a more organic process, it doesn't.
@KapSlap Exactly!
@nabeelqu thanks, this is helpful!
@natural_hazard or guilt or shame or sklamo
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seems like the core of all deep interpersonal control is teaching people to experience fear/pain when having certain th…
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right, in this situation, if i as a kid can be convinced to experience shame about the situation ("i'm a bad kid for no…
arguably (sorta vervaeke-inspired) attention is sort of the fundamental resource, cognitively so the right verb for it would actually be the same verb as for energy or entropy do we have a verb for that? "burn" but *usefully*. "harness"? goddamn we need a new basic word again
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@Jon_Ayre @commandodev it's not saying you *can't* talk about it in those terms, it's saying that if you talk about it in those terms you're likely to be importing assumptions that aren't apt seems you're doing a decent job here not importing those assumptions, but #MetaphorsMatter
I'm starting to see user interface puzzles that might be best/only solveable using blockchain / web3 tech this is exciting.
@haig evolutionary software platforms not just open-source (but if you make changes you have to compile it yourself & somehow distribute it, and who pays for hosting of all of the different versions?) but rather, all variations on the code can be easily migrated between, w shared "db"
@MSlavin yeah, seems right. I've been really digging Vervaeke's stuff on this recently
@QiaochuYuan legit! though it's worth distinguishing between: - someone who has a terminal illness but clarity of purpose - someone who is physically in shape but feels a ton of ennui etc not totally separable but somewhat
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OCR is good enough now. it's time to add it to the context menu on right click when dealing with images. …
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me: *through sobs* you can’t just pretend consciousness is computational when it obviously isn’t if you’re actually paying…
@embryosophy people used to describe the brain as being like hydraulics or telegraphs this article makes a pretty good case that the computer analogy will look about as silly as that once we're properly in a new paradigm
hmm is "legitimancy" a form of bureaucratic magic?
Thread · Thinking out loud about the Emergencies Act and the trucker protest
idk what to make of the Canada Emergency Act / trucker thing Obviously downstream of inability to dialogue & get on the same page in the first place. Good case for cryptocurrency in any case. I am opposed to mandates in general, tho in favor of vaccines. thinking out loud:
One thought that came to mind today is something like, the government has things it's supposed to care for that it can make some headway on using powers it has, but it doesn't have the wisdom nor legitimacy to use those powers properly. This is a pickle.
There are sorta two layers here: A) the nature of the protest being made B) the demands the protesters are making If the protest were very violent and the demands were something 99% of people disagreed with, the govt would have a clear mandate to do whatever it could to stop it.
Instead, the protest is obnoxious & costly and the demands are something that maybe ~70% of cdns disagree with. Hm. Part of the issue here is... how does the government go about knowing that it's right about what policies are correct? How do those 70%? We've all been wrong.
Democracy in the "vote for preferred action" sense is profoundly limited by peoples' ability to actually come up with good options, and to get a shared sense of reality. These have been in short supply through the pandemic.
Obviously we shouldn't do something *simply* because 0.01% of the population is willing to be a nuisance until they get their way—all sorts of bullshit could be caused that way. Coercion. Making problems for other people until they capitulate.
A former activist friend of mine said that the best cases for protests like this are ones where most people are unaware of the issue, but if made aware, popular opinion very obviously goes in the direction of the protesters.
This doesn't seem like such a situation, although part of that may be that the whole protest is tangled up: a mix of "people shouldn't be forced to get vaccinated" (something I wholeheartedly agree with!) & eg "overthrow the government!" which uhhh guys wtf u do not want dis
A small number of citizens chaotically trying to disrupt the government, funded in part by foreign (incl US) money (which I read is part of what's in those bank accounts getting frozen—haven't verified) seems like the sort of thing a democratic govt should stop, somehow.
Then again, if the government is gradually shoving the overton window into absurdity, then having a small number of citizens stand up & object is VITAL! I regret not having been more vocal about how bad I think mandates/vaxpassports are (even tho I agree with the aims!)
Where the hell is conversation supposed to happen about all of this? That's the thing I feel most sad & angry about. How do we get people sharing their experiences and & steelmanning each others' perspectives?
I feel like I read a quote somewhere that was like "when the Buddha taught the
goddamnit my ifttt widget doesn't let you tweet <> apparently
I feel like I read a quote somewhere that was like "when the Buddha taught the <mahayana something?>, a thousand arhats <died>. when the buddha taught the <vajrayana something?>, a thousand bodhisattvas <died>" can't find it on google, anyone know what I mean?
@SeishinWrites my ifttt tweet widget tried to turn my <> into html or something apparently
@EverRotatingSky not at all sure, thanks! but also trudeau's role seems pretty nebulous; lots of the mandates are provincial, no? having said that, we *did* vote in the liberal party last september; could call on opp parties to do a nonconfidence vote if you think liberals have lost legitimacy
@dkazand yeah true and the polls are not necessarily well-conducted, on many fronts, as @EverRotatingSky points out here (I didn't look that hard for the 70% figure, so my bad there)
@QiaochuYuan @SeishinWrites yeah it's pretty good xD
@haig yeah it might not need crypto—tbh github could almost do this better one of the evo platforms I'm thinking about here is this streaming services thing (spotify replacement) and it does seem like getting the right artists paid without spoofing is tough
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There are some clusters of ideas that get talked about around here, and I feel like there's a shared theme that unites all of t…
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like.. mostly i use it rhetorically to throw off busybodies trying to police my behaviour for collective reasons but i…
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@manderbabble @visakanv do it! reminds me a bit of this idea I had:
@PeterXPark it's not about tons of people getting awakened tho, it's more like they're rolling in their graves because the new teachings seem to contradict the old ones
Want to learn more about this meta-framework I'm calling the Non-Naive Trust Dance? How trust-building works (and doesn't) on all fractal scales. I'm doing a presentation + Q&A on thestoa.ca next thursday Feb 24, at 3pm PT (11pm UTC) zoom.us/meeting/regist…
@xuenay hmm yeah maybe I overlooked things that were bad about it because of being frustrated by the extent to which people are using computer metaphors naively and feeling like this article somehow usefully pushes back against that. but it's also kinda sloppy
@jonathandubin @embryosophy yeah I do think it's progress which is part of the very evolutionary frame that we are evolving towards
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@Jon_Ayre @commandodev yeah I totally agree with you there
@xuenay "unconditionality" points at some important piece of both self-love and non-coercion and in a sense emotional coherence is also unconditional
@tpotvibecamp I don't see a button for sleeping bag rental...
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This infographic is a great overview of this theory It's thought that certain oscillation patterns allow molecules to ac…
@daemonhugger @ElodesNL @visakanv I think it's a great articulation of stuff and I love the framing. I do disagree with some of it tho, mostly around the incentives that ads-based business models make for addictiveness. Just because I want to be distracted for an hour doesn't mean I want to be distracted for 5h.
@daemonhugger @sokindling Yeah basically! Although afaict (from PCT) we mostly have hardware that can handle the negotiation process if we're able to welcome everything fully into awareness.
I've been thinking about doing exactly one of the example things described here, of co-watching Vervaeke's Awakening From The Meaning Crisis series tho I might be inclined to cowatch since I hate anything that feels like homework who's in? @Joe_Lightfoot_
Neat article deconstructing why most things on the internet can be replaced with links subconscious.substack.com/p/all-you-need…
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wow, that must be really hard for you, knowing exactly what other people should do with their lives but not being able to…
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@jstanotherview from 3y ago:
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In writing essays, like many people I often find it helpful (& sometimes crucial) to have 1 specific reader in mind fo…
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a mini way of practicing “What do I care about? What do I wanna do?” at a daily sort of scale rather than at the decade or li…
@visakanv from "vastus" = "empty, desolate"
Come write with me! 🤩✍️ pomodoros start on the hour & half-hour complice.co/room/writing
you don't have to know what you're gonna write, just show up and feel into it!
update: I'm now past 10k words (longest single thing I've ever written, pretty sure!) and there are still few examples but I have headings now for a half-dozen types of examples I want to include so we're making serious headway 💪❤️🔥🚀
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Just recorded my first podcast yesterday with @Malcolm_Ocean, @Linus_Lu and @interintellect_! I caught myself surprised…
@visakanv yup, good tweak
@scossar Yeah... I mean I think ordinary people are pretty confused, but not per se more confused than government decision-makers, and my sense is that people need the space to essentially make their own mistakes.
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so excited to release qrono's public beta 🥳 qrono is booking infrastructure for the internet -- we make it easy for startups…
over 11k words now it's coming together
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Also in celebration of launching, I want to say a huge thank you to @Malcolm_Ocean for organizing a barn-raising for our pr…
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practically everyone I know who’s hosted an ii salon has had a lovely experience connecting with people – so one of my goals…
@visakanv writing essay seems hottest rn in post-book phase
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feels true
@PlayNiceInst @Joe_Lightfoot_ Mmm! I ended up deciding to explore watching them with an old friend of mine I'd fallen out of touch with and I think it's probably best if he and I just do that as a twosome rather than trying to make it be a big group thing. But I'd love to cowatch other stuff with you!
@PlayNiceInst @Joe_Lightfoot_ eg I've been meaning to watch this dialogue with McGilchrist youtube.com/watch?v=JdB-BM…
tfw you're deciding what shirt to put on and there's a knock on the door with a delivery of t-shirts you ordered a couple weeks ago (thx @raminnazer)
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Change the frame, change the game.
@stephlepp @raminnazer Yeah! It's so good. Was such a delight to find it since when I started learning more about the brain hemispheres a few years ago one thing that became obvious is that synchronicity is real to the right hemisphere like *things* are real to the left. Part of perception.
@stephlepp @raminnazer where people get tripped up is they try to use eg manifestation with their left hemisphere, grasping it like a tool, which.... nope. it's not that sort of thing. it's not a THING at all. thread that goes really deep on the hemisphere stuff:
Brilliant thread full of both-and moves visualized.
@stephlepp @raminnazer both hemisphere's viewpoints are valid and necessary which actually dovetails a bunch with these venns you've been making!
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what if you're at school and it's also a boat but the boat was great and school was great and you're really happy about it…
@relic_radiation @visakanv have you seen these tattoos? similar to others you've admired
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@wiskerz @gptbrooke it's very cool! (you've got an ssl issue tho)
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feeling annoyed that the word "lover" means "person I have literal sex with, especially outside of commitment." 1. th…
> In real life, the prisoners’ dilemma doesn’t result from some anodyne “coordination failure”. The real prisoners' dilemma is a setup. intriguing article deconstructing some assumptions of common game theory tropes game change is more possible tho interfluidity.com/v2/9184.html
they cite an older essay in which they claim the reason people defect is societal change is hard I think people don't appreciate the extent to which non-zero-sum ways to improve their own life & society simultaneously are available in the first place. interfluidity.com/v2/7629.html
not known about ofc in some sense means they're *not* available... and maybe they actually haven't been possible, throughout most of human history. but most people also don't actually see meaningfully useful self-sacrificial methods to improve society either! (imo)
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What comes after VC thesis statements and portfolio pages? The tech tree. A constantly updated open source map of everything…
I made a 4min video about the paradoxy insight on my new hemisphere shirt from @raminnazer: "manifestation works... and it doesn't work" youtu.be/xECcdHiGoTY
Thread · Index of the 100 video project · 1 of 77 tweets
vid 9/100 - short presentation the two brain hemispheres' worlds and how both things and synchronicities are kinda real but also kinda not
not sure who needs to watch this but definitely some of yall do youtu.be/R1pVoMY67sY
Replying to @alt_visa
@alt_visa hmu dude lots of this thread is still fairly accurate to my situation, 2y later (partially due to internal blocks, that I've recently started working on, as you've probably seen)
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This is the best Twitter thread I've read in a very long time. I don't know enough to have an opinion on the Canadian protests o…
Really important thread for Canadians & all to read. I already sorta felt like freezing the truckers' money was bad, but this makes it vividly clear. If something's illegal, arrest people for it. If it's not but should be, *pass those laws*! No sanctions for things not illegal!
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This has to be one of the most mind blowing of McGilchrist's conclusions - That, functionally, there are (in effect) a…
@DanielJDrake yup. have you read this? I think it's kinda just scratching the surface (and has serious issues re verification of worldly events) but it's pointing in this direction medium.com/@virgilgr/ethe…
Replying to @thisisntsilvia
@ezralevant what's up with her mouth? looks like a deepfake to me either that or she just went to the dentist before this speech
@renthusiast @TheAdrena @punk6529
@stephlepp awesome—it's cool to meet you I have a sense of liveliness in your thinking from what I've read of it so far looking forward to getting to know you more
Retweeted @nicktorba
@Malcolm_Ocean i can’t stop thinking about how we should already have this malcolmocean.com/2021/11/twitte…
@nicktorba yessssss bookmark this thread & whenever you think of something you want to use it for, go here & share it! more examples may help use make the case to Twitter that this needs to happen
@ElodesNL @daemonhugger @visakanv > this would be an impossibly tall order sure, but it's currently not something people are even *trying* to do
@ElodesNL @daemonhugger @visakanv > A truly addictive social media platform wouldn't allow you to pick your follows no! what? do you seriously think so? lots of people would in fact leave if they couldn't get rid of stuff they hated we are in fact on twitter right now, not on a news page!
@ElodesNL @daemonhugger @visakanv I agree that this sort of thing is annoying but eg notifications could be optimized to avoid giving people fucktons of little red dots (as I've done with userstyles) even a medium-sized account no longer wants a notif for every individual like
a few months later I wrote a userstyle (cc @robertskmiles)
@ElodesNL @daemonhugger @visakanv my userstyles/userscripts to solve the "you can't have peace of mind because someone liked your tweet" problem:
@AWSOwen @CompliceGoals there isn't yet there will be soon now that I've overhauled the webrtc system last year (in fact I think I have a version of this in beta so message me on the in-app intercom with the room name if you want to test it!)
@daemonhugger @sokindling yeah and it's not necessarily a middle ground sometimes when you bring all priorities into dialogue, one does actually turn out to be an overriding consideration but it can only smoothly override when everything's there to be considered at once otherwise you get friction
@ElodesNL @daemonhugger @visakanv no, actually! addictiveness is maximized if twitter gives you something you don't know how to get somewhere else, but doesn't give you *enough* of it, so you have to stay on there all day goodness is maximized via providing *abundance* of that thing
@ElodesNL @daemonhugger @visakanv also if you think twitter actually gives you adequate tools to control your experience then... ...I don't wanna be rude but either: - your imagination needs a workout - you've been seriously gaslit into thinking this is how it should be, like schools
@natural_hazard @prerationalist @pee_zombie @Tjdriii yeah spot on if you can flip (even just in your own mind) "you're operating in bad faith" from "I can't trust you're operating in good faith" then it suddenly becomes "okay, legit, what do we do about that?" (unless uhh you can't trust that their distrust isn't itself fake!)
reading Punished By Rewards & thinking that maybe I want to rework the Complice end-of-day Q from "Is this enough?" to "how do you feel about this goal's progress today?" ie asking an intrinsic Q rather than an extrinsic one... 🤔
@dtedesco1 yeah; I think "enough" can make sense for really clear objective goals where it's like "yeah, I'm on track" but it still sucks if you get *behind* one early user said she loved being able to declare, herself, that today was ENOUGH, but I think that's not most ppl's exp
Retweeted @made_in_cosmos
normalize this, normalize that, just stop normalizing or caring about what's the norm, go do your weird thing anyway
Replying to @mik_glass
@mik_glass @MAGA_MOB yeah, even if you disagree with a cause, you need to be very careful with the means you support to deal with it
Retweeted @alanfryermedia
Man, if any MPs were looking for a good reason to vote NO to these emergency government powers, Trudeau himself just pr…
if you don't trust something you don't trust it! 😬 "you should trust" just means "pretend to trust" absurd false dichotomy below you can totally support democracy AND not trust the government to sanely handle extra-judicial powers in fact, those seem very compatible Vote NO
for more on why this is disturbing, see this top-notch thread:
@morricemike hey Mike, I found this thread really helpful for understanding the implications of using extra-judiciary powers and freezing bank accounts I know it's a challenge to do arrests given kids being present, but this sets a bad precedent as far as I can tell
@stephlepp @raminnazer I've now made a lil video about this:
@robnashagain nice! yeah, I'm so into neuroscience dharma you might also like the PCT books
@EashanKotha wtf what
@EashanKotha 🤣🤣
Replying to @thisisntsilvia
@thisisntsilvia @RichDecibels mmm yeah, I've been deepening into something like this myself I've sometimes called it "[nothing to do] meditation"
@stephlepp @fortelabs @garybasin I haven't, but I'd be down to work on a piece like that together maybe! I don't see a lot of things through the lens of journalism but my sense is that you do and we might be able to combine forces
@EashanKotha results?
@tessafyi appreciating your perspective on it! I would value having more ongoing sensemaking with you about Canadian politics, if there's a good forum for that (we have that cdnpoli fb chat but it's not that active and feels kinda narrow) thinking about this:
@dtedesco1 I just enabled this on your account; you can disable it or tweak the settings for it here: (I've been testing customizeable end-of-day questions for awhile as a beta feature) complice.co/settings/labs
@EashanKotha link me to another example?
@daemonhugger @sokindling option A: drive north around the lake option B: drive south around the lake compromise: drive through the lake
Retweeted @DRMacIver
I've been toying with an analogy recently that one problem people have with Twitter is often that a) You are getting somethi…
@daemonhugger @ElodesNL @visakanv no, something more like "approval" or "social interaction" or "serendipitous connection" or "meaning" but way more subtle & specific & different per person (and lots of people wouldn't themselves know how to tune twitter to be denser fo rthem)
@DRMacIver huge agreement with your thread except for edit button lack of edit is core to what makes twitter twitter
Retweeted @Meaningness
You are not expected to understand this. It’s really, really good though. Read it several times. It’s short. Unlike some o…
there's this phrase "The Work" that I've seen show up in a few places some somewhat informally, in communities I've been in referring to, well, the work and also as an explicit phrase in both Byron Katie & Gurdjieff's frameworks what does it imply, I wonder? what is The Play?
Retweeted @morricemike
After listening to perspectives from all sides - both within the House and from my neighbours - I've decided to vote again…
@MSlavin people who think hallucinations are "just" hallucinations smh
the rant is too damn high
Retweeted @MJPiercello
Stick your right arm out sideways. Hold it at shoulder level, elbow straight but not locked, fingers straight and together…
@AskYatharth we don't have Land Value Tax, so most of what gets better gets captured by landowners and this gets worse the better it gets astralcodexten.substack.com/p/your-book-re…
what if [dealing with currencies & international money-sending] were good tho? ...turns out this exists and it's @wise! Complice has saved $$$s & I've closed my annoying USD-in-Canada bank accounts. Fast, easy, midmarket rates, tiny fees: wise.com/invite/spu/mal…
Retweeted @RatOrthodox
Imagine a strange but lovable race of aliens living in a crucial period of their history. They have a bizarre oversaturate…
hey @Morphenius this relates to what we've been talking about, about how presence isn't just about timelessness but also contextuality
@jbarro kinda like one of those people who doesn't know how to say "no" to requests so they just get increasingly resentful until they explode or ghost you or something
Bio-Emotive pith instructions
@AskYatharth @Morphenius between
every choice closes off a million others at the same time, every choice also opens up a million new paths that weren't available until that choice was made
Retweeted @wholebodyprayer
Relationality over abstract void OR “person im trying to impress” every single time!! Write to people you care about,…
@softminus @SarahAMcManus couldn't help but read "getting help with trauma" to the tune of Down With The Sickness 🎶 get up get up get help with the trauma
Retweeted @The_Lagrangian
May all beings have the courage to fuck around and the discernment to find out
@arjunrajlab @YSPTSPS @tessafyi this seemed like something you might chortle at
Retweeted @__drewface
Broke: "scalable" mental health apps Woke: Living in and building community with your friends Bespoke: Raising a microgra…
tfw you make an ASSUMPTION and then you realize the assumption was WRONG
@ZaymonTheUnwise oooh, what's this from?
Retweeted @natural_hazard
was checking out @Malcolm_Ocean s "non naive trust dance principles" page and wrote up some thoughts generally a big fa…
Retweeted @RatOrthodox
The professor I TA phil 101 for this semester had students write (fake) emails to their friend explaining Pascal’s wager.…
listening to Huberman talking about reading on smartphones causing repression of physiological sighing... ...wondering how much it's about collapsed awareness
day N of lifting weights regularly 🏋️♂️ (thanks @sashachapin & @LordChisholm for encouragement) tried some 1 rep max stuff, based on an online calculator ...but I was actually able to do 2+ of some of them! 250lbs squat 205lbs bench press 70lbs (each hand) incline dumbbell row 💪
@jonathandubin he said it's different from screen apnea, though yeah, they're probably related on *some* level
@m_ashcroft would love to get someone (Huberman?) to study this! ideas? his suggestion of "remember to sigh manually every 5 minutes" feels layery and kind of at the wrong level
if you haven't already heard this amazing mashup of Another One Bites The Dust with a preacher explaining how it's satanic music, you're in for a treat soundcloud.com/evan-christopo…
Replying to @HiredThought
@HiredThought check out this amazing paper on the paradoxes involved in trying to make sense of relevance
finding myself feeling like we need a better pronoun than "it" for complex systems ...plants, animals, whole ecosystems, the whole biosphere, the cosmos some languages have animate & inanimate pronouns (eg Mi'kmaq iirc)
@SarahAMcManus update: I've since written about pre-success failure!
@FluidityAudio @natural_hazard totally I think we also don't acknowledge the extent to which punishment in a context like [harsh words between spouses] isn't directly intended to change behavior but is trying to say "hey! I matter! you hurt me! feel me! see me! empathize" doesn't usually *work* well, but 🤷♀️
Gonna publish this thread about towardsness & awayness motivation as a blog post next in a few days, lmk if you have questions or feedback on it!
thread is a bit tangled; more of it here:
QC has also written about approach/avoid:
also if anyone wants to make a nicer illustration of this concept, as an image for the blog post, I'll happily pay $50 for anything I end up using (landscape for social share) (these stock photos are a suggestive starting point of what I have in mind)
allegedly most animals want to contribute as well... with the exception of domesticated cats 😹 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrafre…
@ZaymonTheUnwise @sashachapin @LordChisholm I do! deadlift is great. it just wasn't deadlift day / I didn't feel like a longer workout today I've done 7 reps of 240lb deadlift, so according to the calculator I should be able to deadlift 280-300 as a 1-rep max (I'm using a trap bar but not with any vertical advantage)
@ZaymonTheUnwise @sashachapin @LordChisholm I'm pretty new to the whole thing, so I think in some ways I've been going slower than I in some sense could but I am just so utterly not interested in injuring myself. good form is vital; I'm playing the long-game here, setting myself up to love lifting for decades
playing around with different ideas of questions Complice could ask about each of your goals each day the "is this enough?" one is close to what it currently is the top one is the one I'm trying out at the moment
6 roam graphs open at the moment, all of which I've used in the last few days
(Complice users, if you want to test this yourself, you can enable it at complice.co/settings/labs—you can customize the questions & answers including different ones for different goals)
so annoying when people overgeneralize your feedback you're like "this specific thing you do when you X annoys me" and later they summarize what you said as "you think I am an annoying person who should never X"
Retweeted @Probably_Brian
What's the least complex system that feels alive to you? to me: -a hammer feels dead -stuff w rechargable batteries f…
@Probably_Brian @christineist there was a tweet last year sometime about evolutionarily-designed car chassis & wheels and they have have way more curves and look way more *organic*
I was feeling into this after I tweeted it and imagined "ut" for some reason. maybe because it's similar enough that people can gloss over the difference if it's not important and just treat it like "it" "utter" means ~"outer", hm.
@alinatheripper an emerging meta-scenius of people supporting each other to figure things out, try new things, untangling their stuff, and make sense of uhh *gestures wildly*
@ZaymonTheUnwise @sashachapin @LordChisholm yeah, part of my motivation for getting stronk is to be able to be better at acroyoga, which can also itself definitely be a workout, and involves a lot of coordination
@tessafyi yeah, that makes sense come visit us in BC sometime!
Retweeted @AskYatharth
.@Malcolm_Ocean makes this move called, ‘What if were cool tho?” it’s something like this
@dtedesco1 *whispers* 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 / 𝘬𝘦𝘺 𝘰𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘱𝘢𝘨𝘦 (that one is alpha, not beta; only half-finished)
Retweeted @callumflack
If you want to fuck nuance, you first have to find it
@alex_here_now it's a 2×2 afaict obviously easier to experience a mindset of abundance when needs met but also possible to nonetheless experience scarcity in such a state likewise it's possible to experience a general orientation of abundance despite hardship or simply "not enough"
@alex_here_now research also suggests that people who don't think they have enough time or resources to complete a level of a game play worse, *independent of whether they actually have enough* the thought "I don't have enough" causes rushing, panic, or failure to take enough risks to win
@alex_here_now you always have enough time, resources, and skill to do whatever it is you will in fact do it might not be what you're *hoping* you'll get to do but whatever in fact happens, you will be able to get there from here it's tautological but many people operate otherwise w/o noticing
@SeishinWrites @tasshinfogleman
I'm gonna be talking tomorrow on #TheStoa about non-naive trust-dancing, ie learning & growing in the messy situations that we find ourselves in when protocols fail, trust breaks down, or our frames don't easily meet for dialoguing. come ask me questions: zoom.us/meeting/regist…
@goldenmindeye it'll be on youtube after!
Retweeted @visakanv
An exercise I would guide my younger creative self through: 1. Make a list of your favorite works 2. List out everything ba…
salient to me the way that awareness of the situation in ukraine permeates my twitter timeline, but is completely absent from my feed when I sign onto facebook (which I don't use much anymore) I'm sure some people are talking about it on facebook, but the diff is palpable
it's not even that all the tweets are *about* ukraine it's just that *enough* of them are that it sort of feels like obvious shared context on twitter today, whereas on facebook what I'm seeing suggests many people might literally not have heard about today's escalation
to be clear, I have very little clue what's actually happening at this point and when or how it will affect my life or your life, but something is definitely happening
@natural_hazard re "worthwhile" to resolve misunderstandings, it does assume that you care about the relationship, for sure. otherwise much easier to let it go but if you intend to still talk to the person regularly in a few years, probably worth figuring it out (if you have adequate tools)
@natural_hazard > Sharpening our mutual sense of "what are we even disagreeing about?" always feels like a breath of fresh air, or a ray of light bursting through the clouds. absolutely. "agree to disagree" is whatever, but "agree on the exact nature of our disagreement" is epic
@natural_hazard > [a confusion] "there just is this one thing that is trustworthyness and I can be it and if I'm being it and someone doesn't trust me I can berate them because they should trust me." yeah that's a huge part of the thing that NNTD is trying to transform in all its guises
@natural_hazard > hypothesis I'm tentatively floating being something like "interpersonal coercion is what bootstraps the capacity to coerce yourself in the first place" this is also my sense. I'm steering towards a world where people grow up never learning self-coercion in the first place
@natural_hazard > protectiveness is damage control as contrasted with "protectiveness is good if you're protecting the right thing". imo, protectiveness is *better than letting the thing get destroyed*—better *still* is keeping it safe without a stance of protectiveness
@natural_hazard > everyone will constantly point out ways in which things are incomplete insofar as ppl are being annoying, or complaining or saying they don't trust you... any of that is blindspot feedback, if you can learn to listen (again, maybe only worthwhile in close rships)
@natural_hazard >> punishment can't steer > I LOVE THIS PHRASE! fyeah! I'd love to hear your thoughts on this thread I'm turning into a blog post:
@natural_hazard > sometimes things need to be said even though they feel like they really really should go without saying this is about sth else... it's about like, saying things like "obviously if you don't want to, we don't have to" even when you feel like that should be taken for granted
@natural_hazard I need to collect better examples of this thing. ah! this is related 👇 in this situation, the obvious thing that should have gone without saying was "I don't think you should stop doing X altogether" (maybe "X" is "make requests" or "take alone time")
@natural_hazard the feedback giver assumed that that could go without saying, but apparently it couldn't, and this is part of what led to the overgeneralization part of the issue is when the person reveals that something didn't go without saying, people are often so mad that they can't say it🤦♀️
finally figured out how to get google docs to stop auto-capitalizing the first character in bullet lists (Tools→Prefs) and it's such a relief if I want shit capitalized I'll capitalize that shit the shift button is right there
@anactofwill I think characterizing it as overgeneralization is helpful because it indicates a possibility of additional information improving the situation (although it won't always ofc)
@unoptimalblogs yeah I sorta thought it would involve rejecting the suggestions but that did nothing didn't think to look under Tools but then I googled the thing and there's indeed an answer
@harveykrishna_ @daemonhugger a lot of training relevant to coaching doesn't even require coaching certification so you can take "can't be bothered" a whole nother step! (I've been doing coaching for 8 years, intermittently, and have never gotten certified, and none of my clients care)
coming up in about half an hour! 💃💞🕺👁️
I'm about to go live on #TheStoa about non-naive trust-dancing, ie learning & growing in the messy situations that we find ourselves in when protocols fail, trust breaks down, or our frames don't easily meet for dialoguing. come ask me Qs! 🤩 zoom.us/meeting/regist…
@lexfridman Lex, just want to say huge appreciation for your orientation towards creating dialogue in this situation 💞🙏 Perspective-taking is something we all could use more of.
Retweeted @AskYatharth
being post-mistake is in some sense about being really post-mistake, living in the universe where you made it instead of…
Retweeted @Jeanvaljean689
This is beautifully put, and very timely - For those problems that force will not solve, Please, for the love of God,…
great thread summarizing what I talked about at the Stoa call today (it'll be up on youtube soon for you to watch if you missed it)
@nvpkp "Nobody’s Ready for Marriage—Marriage Makes You Ready for Marriage" — David Schnarch, who has an excellent book called Passionate Marriage (this seems basically right to me, although some people can be more not-ready than others. & true for many other things too)
@orpheaskk @selentelechia @DiamonDie @BasedBeff someone studied mdma + iterated prisoner's dilemma and the people on mdma were just as capable of punishing defectors but better able to forgive after breaches pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30455187/
Retweeted @vgr
Creative procrastination is when you feel deep internal urgency to do a thing, but manage to delay and delay because your approach…
oooh I had this with my Dream Mashups post! if I'd written it up when I first came up with the dream mashups analogy, it would have reified a bunch of subtle confusions I had at the time (before I understood non-naive trust-dancing) instead it reveals and untangles those
(the post, if you're curious) malcolmocean.com/2021/06/dream-…
idk who needs to hear this but it was me an hour ago, in relation to a group chat feeling very liberated
@alex_here_now @magghu have you checked out Land Value Tax? it (+UBI) seems like one of the best ideas I've seen for actually sorting out material scarcity astralcodexten.substack.com/p/your-book-re…
@harveykrishna_ @daemonhugger and you can get certification at specific techniques if you want to make sure that you have those capabilities I'm in a process for that right now with Coherence Coaching
Retweeted @p_millerd
@jonnym1ller @Malcolm_Ocean Damnit I was collapsed reading this tweet. I’ve now expanded
@AskYatharth @QiaochuYuan yeah I love that thread feels like it's already how I'm thinking about things in general, not sure what more there is to say except with reference to some specific situation under consideration sufficiently good trust-dancing solves the consent problem
Replying to @norabean
@norabean @lexfridman (hey Nora, it's been awhile!) that's not the differences in perspective I'm talking about 😝 I'm talking about people's frames on why this is happening in the first place, what it means, who's responsible for what, and what it would take for a resolution to occur.
huh this was actually cool, I was able to see some of the subtler differences between English & Australian accents (I'm aware there's tons of regional variation too, but still) youtube.com/shorts/51cDyE_…
Retweeted @temujin9
There are more people on Earth than seconds in a human life. Just block the jerk and move on.
@danieljthomason @temujin9 me too, yeah! if anyone's curious... it's about 2.5B math: 525,600 minutes/year (thanks RENT) ~= 31M seconds/year ~= 2.5B seconds/80years
Retweeted @devonzuegel
travelers who stayed in inns were suspect, because it implied that they lacked legitimate connections in the local communi…
continuing to work on this and I now feel like I've got basically all of the pieces there but it's repetitive and out of order (and has at least 6 appendixes 😅) so now I'm like fuq, gotta refactor & reorganize the whole thing I feel a bit like @visakanv with his book
I'm about 15k words in, for reference. this writing piece just pulls words out of me. it's v exciting. even what I've written feels in many places like a very high-level summary of something I can see in much greater detail, like a map with only the major roads or something.
Retweeted @madeofmistak3
@visakanv I went and made a diagram of the whole thing and that helped a bunch I've done a decent amount of talking about the subject of what I'm writing, and to some degree talking with colleagues and saying "this is something I'm touching on in HWGT" did some roam outlining too
nice joke if you can get it
trust-dancing case study youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b3cz…
as I get back into wearing underwear I'm having trouble finding what I want most guy's underwear is either • loose but made of linen etc • or stretchy but tight & form-fitting (sexy & good for running, but day-to-day my parts need more freedom) I want loose AND stretchy!
finally finished v1 of this—20k words (7k is appendixes) by far the longest thing I've written. I could imagine it becoming a book, tbh slowly sharing it with people close to me, maybe will share more broadly eventually
I described it last night to some people as "a manual for creating pragmatic small-scale utopias"